(Part 2) Best camping personal care products according to redditors

i've sadly got a good amount of experience with that, and yes, the horror is quite palpable when dealing with a failed system.

I recommend a standard porta-potty. they run between $50 and $150 depending on quality and size. They all work the same way... waste is all contained airtight in the bottom part, which you just fill with 2 cups of water and a half-cup of blue solution. The top of the toilet has a small compartment for regular tap water to "flush", along with toilet paper, with the press of a manual button. With this setup, you can have slightly more comfortable "emergencies", around 10 comfortable poops, and you have plenty of time to empty it in any toilet at your convenience (the bottom part slides out and carries like a suitcase of sorts, so you can even empty it in a public restroom toilet). This setup is pretty clean and very low odor as long as you're using the right solution. emptying it out at a toilet will be stinky for a minute or two, but thats the worst part.


example: https://www.amazon.com/SereneLife-Portable-Toilet-Potty-Seat/dp/B07218B4DQ
video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7weHABquBk

There are better and more expensive models but if you dont want to pay that much I recomend you this one, Ive used this during the early days, with wrath I switched to a more luxory model.

https://www.amazon.com/Stansport-271-Portable-Folding-Travel/dp/B000K6HN22/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1541910149&sr=8-13&keywords=camping+toilet


Luxory Model:

https://www.amazon.com/Medline-Heavy-Padded-Drop-Arm-Commode/dp/B009GQ492E/ref=sr_1_27_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1541910305&sr=8-27&keywords=toilet+chair

High end Model:

https://www.amazon.com/SUKONG-Aluminum-Portable-Bedside-Commode/dp/B078S6QTPP/ref=sr_1_51_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1541910360&sr=8-51&keywords=toilet+chair

Best hundred bucks you'll spend. Easy peezy.

https://www.amazon.com/SereneLife-Portable-Indicator-Traveling-Roadtripping/dp/B07218B4DQ

You're laughing but that's really about how much water you should be bringing per person, per day. Honestly I might bring some extra in case there are any trip-related fuckups on wasting/losing water.

Bring some shade (like an EZ-up) to chill underneath. Hats. Suncreen (and use it often). You don't want to get fuckin toasted while you're tripping.

Also cooling towels like these that you get wet every now and then can really help cool you down during the day.

http://www.amazon.com/Frogg-Toggs-Chilly-Cooling-Towel/dp/B0049RPBWW

I can give you peace of mind for a bargain price of $20 (from Amazon, may cost more from a store).

1. Waterproof seat protector for your carseat. Piddle pad is one brand. $10 (or less depending on brand)
   
   http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001C51TIE/
   
   
2. Portable potty, in case you are miles from civilization when nature screams. I like mine because it also doubles as a potty seat for dubious rest stops. Inflatable versions also exist. $10 and up
   
   http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0016L0MMS/
   
   For anyone reading who has boys (I have 2 plus a husband) I keep one of these in my glovebox at all times..
   
   http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003IW8IXI
   
   
3. Time regular potty breaks, taking into account how much she drinks and when she normally poops. Every few hours find a place to stop and declare that everyone needs to go potty whether they feel it or not. Free
   
   You're now enabled for emergencies, protected from accidents and she won't have to revert to pullups.
   
   

All my time in the pit has prepared me for this moment!!

1. A camelbak. I cannot overstate the importance of properly hydrating.
   
   
2. A coolrag. Soak it in cold water, wring it so it isn’t dripping, put around your neck. —note, you can get a regular shammy towel (ones for when you wash your car and towel it dry) because it holds so much more water than a normal cotton blend. Bonus, wrap ice in it and then drape around your neck.
   
   
3. Fans. Fans. Fans. Everywhere. The ones on a string around your neck with the spray bottle. One on your desk.
   
   
4. If you’re desperate enough...Swamp Cooler. Basically it’s a cooler (usually styrofoam cause we cheap up in here) with a hole cut out of the top for a fan to sit in to blow air down into the ice....and a vent hole on the side for the cold air to come blast you. or you can go full fancy redneck too
   
   
5. Extra socks and skivvies.
   
   
6. Gold bond or equivalent powder for your sweaty bits. A little bit of foot spray or foot powder goes a long way.
   
   
7. Wear coveralls if possible—you can roll the pant legs up and make covershorts. They’re much more breathable than NWUs anyway.

twitch Nooooooooo.

My preference? Get a pStyle, and a carrying case to go with it. Keep the plastic ziplock bag the pStyle comes in, stuff it inside the carrying case, clip that to your bag, and pull it out whenever you need to use it. Then wipe it down with some TP (if there's any left in the porto), put it back in the bag, and you're good. Normally you wouldn't want to keep a funnel in the plastic bag, and you'd want the breathability of the fabric carrying case to keep it dry, but I'm not so keen on playa dust being all up in my business, so I just wipe it after every use, keep it sealed in the plastic, then baby wipe it daily when I'm back at my tent. to make sure it's clean.

You are probably correct. If the lessons are indoors, he will be warmer in just regular swim trunks and a swim diaper. Also, depending on the amount of interaction you are allowed to have with him during the lessons, you may want to get him one of those pool towels that divers use, like this one that he can keep by the side of the pool and dry off with when he has to get out. It's small enough that even if it falls in the water, it's not nearly as big a deal as having a huge beach towel fall in. I'm fairly sure they float as well.

Another suggestion would be seeing if rather than waiting on the pool deck, the kids could be allowed to wait in the water, hanging on to the side of the pool

Intotheam.com - They have some pretty sweet festival gear.

It's really whatever you're most comfortable in. Just remember during the day, it's going to be HOT. I usually just rock a tank and a bathing suit and a large brimmed hat. I can't stress enough about the large brimmed hat. Some may look ridiculous but it will save you from the sun.

Also get a cooling towel/rag, it will be a LIFE saver -https://www.amazon.com/Original-Cooling-Towel-Extreme-Relief/dp/B00VSH7LEM

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I use Granger's Performance Wash whenever I clean my SD's. I've used their combination Wash + Repel to restore DWR on a pair of mine that I accidentally washed with regular detergent.

After using either/or of those products, putting them in the dryer (after thoroughly hanging to dry) really brings the DWR back to life, from my experience.

Came here to suggest taking every bottle of water they had - enough to fill a bath at least.

I'd also ask them to buy a camp shower for you to use the water so at least you get something out of it and you possibly might even end up using it in that time.

Then go give the homeless free bottles of water. Or the local charities that deal with them.

Here's a few I snagged from my recently ordered list.

Secure USB Drive - For storing scans of important documents.

Mylar Blankets - Ridiculously thin. Good to keep in the car or every day carry bag for a variety of situations.

Camp Suds - Or alternately hand sanitizer. Both useful to stay healthy in Flu season or another outbreak that spreads via contact.

Emergency Whistle - Small enough to keep on a keychain. Loud enough to get attention when it's needed.

Mylar Bags + Oxygen Absorbers - If you're prepping, putting a hundred pounds or so of white rice in 5 gallon buckets is a great way to get started on a long term food supply without breaking the bank. Put it in these and it will stay fresher longer.

Water BOB - Great little device for if/when you know the water supply may be at risk. It's a cheap way to be able to store 100 gallons in preparation for an emergency.

Pepper Spray - The security product you can take most places.

Starter First Aid Kit - Gotta get that going some how. This one has a hard shell which is nice for tossing it in a pack. You'll have to fill it out with what you're likely to need.

Mainstay 2400 Calorie Bars - They stay good through some pretty extreme highs and lows which makes them ideal for tossing in a car. They last about 5 years or so and don't require any water to make them. They're very handy as they're a purchase and forget about them item (for a few years anyway) that lets you have some immediate food for however long you have them stocked for.

Life Straw - A personal filter for waterborne bacteria. Most water purification methods have some significant cost to them, but this one is a great inexpensive item to get started with.

There's a ton of little things on Amazon that are kind of cool to have on hand, but I'd recommend snagging whatever is most likely to help you in whatever your situation is likely to be. If you live in a wildfire prone area... the usb drive would be a wise start. Earthquakes? The emergency whistle. Bad neighborhood, pepper spray. You get the idea. Good luck!

Apart from air circulation at night, I recommend the following:

1. Good insulation during the day. Not just blinds, put tin foil up on your windows to keep the sun away.
   
   
2. Cool your body, not the rooms. You can cool your hands or your neck -- what you're really doing is cooling your blood, and hence your core. You can do this by yourself (take a break every 30 mins and soak your hands in a bucket of ice water for 2 minutes), or find a commercial product.

The freezing thing is just a myth. As for not washing it that's also completely not true, washing your rain gear is very important to remove dirt and grime cought in the Gor-tex porous membrane, if clogged the garment won't breath correctly. You do however have to use a side loading washing machine and specially formulated detergents like Nikwax or Grangers, Also putting your rain garments in the dryer on low will reinvigorate the original DWR coating.

http://www.amazon.com/1st-Defense-Industries-Lady-J/dp/B000XT91D0

This is a non toxic natural biodegradable and pleasant smelling concentrated all purpose soap. It's been safe for my birds when I wipe poopsies off of their feathers

Sierra Dawn Campsuds All Purpose Cleaner, 2-Ounce https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000TTL8GC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_R0.xCbWGA9C6M

I know you probably don't have it laying around, but for future knowledge I thought it'd be pertinent

I always have Campsuds around. Works ok for a variety of jobs.

I own this one, the pStyle in multiple colors. It's great, and because it's not a full funnel, you never have to worry about it filling up or removing your pants entirely.

Camping? Music Festivals? Anywhere with terrible port-o-potties? The pStyle is amazing.

Lady J. It's not a dick so much as a wonky-ass funnel

I bought this two years ago for Roo:
Frogg Toggs The Original Chilly Pad Cooling Towel, Ice White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CKCUSMQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Dq45ybAWT55J6

How much luggage does he travel with and how many countries is he going to? That will determine what’s a good choice.

My fave travel gadgets have been

1. battery charger, a large one that can go multiple days without charging. And also your friends will like to use.
   
   https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00X5RV14Y/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1511981716&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=20000+mah+portable+charger&dpPl=1&dpID=31MnmAEjDaL&ref=plSrch
   
   
2. micro towel. (It’s a game changer) I got the one at rei in a large. Just big enough to wrap around your waist.
   
   https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01K1TX77W/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1511981752&sr=8-7&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=travel+towel&dpPl=1&dpID=416HcYQQ56L&ref=plSrch
   
   
3. cabeau travel pillow, eye mask, ear plugs (if he’s flying a lot or going to a lot of places. This is my sleep anywhere kit and essential if traveling multiple countries)
   
   https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004ZIDXK2/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1511981907&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=cabeau+evolution+pillow&dpPl=1&dpID=41RvkBLi8jL&ref=plSrch
   
   https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00GSO1D9O/ref=mp_s_a_1_3_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1511981971&sr=8-3&keywords=eye+mask&dpPl=1&dpID=41NEugUfp7L&ref=plSrch
   
   https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00XW0P84I/ref=mp_s_a_1_11_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1511982013&sr=8-11&keywords=ear+plugs
   
   
   
4. collapsable water bottle(spending money on bottled water adds up and you can get water after you pass through security for the plane when the air gets dry. I get dry throat on planes)
   
   https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015RZTPJY/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1511982056&sr=8-8&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=collapsible+water+bottle&dpPl=1&dpID=41lBy7By8XL&ref=plSrch
   
   
5. a collapsable travel day back pack (man purse or if you buy things. I keep my water bottle and battery in there. Extra clothes, selfie stick etc and if you’re over your luggage limit you can take stuff out and put it in there. When not in use it fold up into a small bag.
   
   http://www.eddiebauer.com/product/stowaway-packable-20l-daypack/82300168?showProducts=111&color=147&sizetype=&size=
   
   
   
   

Did a ton of research for a camping trip last year. (assuming you mean hiking and camping, not just driving your car around)

For high-quality at a low price, my friends and I were completely satisfied by:

• Water Pump
  
• Pick up some Nalgene bottles
  
• Camping Utensil Set (seem to have gone up in price)
  
• Campsuds. A must.
  
• Amazing little Camp Stove
  
• And OMFG Raspberry Crumble was addictive!!
  
  (p.s. I bet /r/Camping has better tips than /r/amazone )

Have you considered getting a chilly pad?

I live without AC in 90+ degree weather (+ outrageous humidity) and this towel thingy has been reeeeeeeally helpful.

Get one of those portable camp toilets, hand it to her at the door, and point to the backyard.

This foot operated shower has good review.

It just so happened that a lot of Eureka stuff was on sale at the time I was shopping, so I look like something of a fanboy.

• [Eureka Apex 3XT Tent] (http://www.amazon.com/Eureka-Apex-3XT-Tent-sleeps/dp/B0043HM5RC) - It's a three man tent, but I'm a big guy and I wanted extra room. Camping off the bike makes the slightly heavier weight from a 3 man tent not a big deal, it compresses down pretty small anyway. Gives me plenty of room to bring all my gear inside the tent at night, and if the wife decides to go camp with me there will be room for us both without any problem.
  
  
• [Eureka Sandstone 45F Rectangular Sleeping Bag] (http://www.amazon.com/Eureka-Sandstone-45-Degree-Rectangular-Sleeping/dp/B006MQAWS6) - Synthetic bag, one for me and one for my wife. Nothing really fancy about it other than that they are mate-able to each other we want to get extra snuggle-y on a trip.
  
  
• [Eureka Camp Pillow] (http://www.amazon.com/Eureka-2641201-Camp-Pillow/dp/B004BZX7PK) - Some people say use a stuff sack with your dirty clothes, I say I don't want to smell funky multiple day old swamp ass while I'm trying to sleep. I guess I could use clean clothes, but meh..
  
  
• [Exped SynMat Basic 7] (http://www.amazon.com/Exped-SynMat-Sleeping-Terracotta-Long/dp/B0018MC976) - Air mattress. My theory is that if you don't get at least some restful sleep, you will be miserable the next day. Packs down very small, provides comfort and insulation from the ground.
  
  
• [Sea to Summit eVent 30L Compression Dry Sack] (http://www.amazon.com/Sea-Summit-eVent-Compression-Medium/dp/B000NQQ5A0) - I have multiples of this item. I pack the tent, rainfly and groundcover all in one, and it all compresses down to around 12x6 inches. Sleeping bag goes into another, compresses down to about 12x12 inches.
  
  
• [Kwik Tek Dry Pak 70L Waterproof Duffel Bag] (http://www.amazon.com/DP-D1BK-Waterproof-Duffel-Black-Large/dp/B00644OLLU) - Cooking gear, sleeping equipment, and other stuff I don't put in the panniers goes in here, and then the bag is strapped across the pillion seat with RocStraps. If it's a two up trip, the 52L Givi comes off the back of the bike, and the 70L Dry Pak is replaced by a 110L Dry Pak so there is enough room to stash the wife's gear as well.
  
  
• [Sea to Summit DryLite Towel] (http://www.amazon.com/Sea-to-Summit-DryLite-Towel/dp/B000OPPAQK) - Small and Extra Small. Great for drying off after getting caught in the rain, or after a shower at the campsite. They dry fast too.
  
  
• [Jetboil Zip] (http://www.amazon.com/Jetboil-Zip-Cooking-System-Black/dp/B004UVPDUM) cooking system - Boils 16oz of water in about 2.5 minutes. My breakfast is instant oatmeal and instant coffee/hot chocolate, so this takes care of both very quickly. The Jetboil also makes it super easy to make things like instant mashed potatoes for dinner.
  
  
• [Trangia 27-5] (http://www.trangia.se/english/2913.trangia_stoves.html) Ultralight Aluminium Cookset with add on 2.5L pot - Alcohol stove set with frying pan, two 1L pots and one 2.5 pot. For dinner I can cook up a steak, some soup or stew, pasta/rice sides (think of stuff like [this] (http://www.bearcreekcountrykitchens.com/index.php) and [this] (http://www.knorr.com/product/category/245876/pasta-sides). I don't worry about packing and carrying an entire trip's worth of food, I stop at a grocery store, and get a couple days worth of stuff. If I want fresh meat, I swing by a store immediately before hitting the campsite. Arrive, set up, cook.
  
  
• 12oz plastic cups - I carry a couple of [these] (http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___60048).
  
  
• Spork - Fork, spoon, and something resembling a knife [all in one] (http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___87620)
  
  
• Leatherman Blast - bring a multitool, you will be glad you did.
  
  
• A headlamp and a good flashlight are critical. I like [these small Black Diamond orbit lanterns] (http://www.rei.com/product/807910/black-diamond-orbit-lantern) too.
  

I'll be a lot easier in Victoria, than where it snows. However, this was a choice quote from /r/vandwellers that I just read that strikes a chord. I localized it for victoria

>February. Imagine waking up at 3am in that van with diarrhea, 8c inside, -10c outside, and trying to hop out and thru the rain, into the slush on the ground fast enough to make it inside some building's restrooms in time without going into shock? I'd strongly recommend a porta-potty.

The recommended picking up one of these for emergencies https://www.amazon.com/SereneLife-Portable-Toilet-Potty-Seat/dp/B07218B4DQ

Cooling Towel
This saved us 2019! It was so effective, all of our new Forest Friends wanted to know where we got it.

This is what you want. It turns any liquid into gel and comes in a sealable container. My question is do you feel comfortable peeing surrounded by people? I can feel my urethra closing just thinking about it

https://www.amazon.com/Easi-Pee-Disposable-Urine-Bags/dp/B00DCLNK2Y

Well there's this type of thing. But honestly, a hose wouldn't work well anyway. Once you're done, you'd have a ton of urine still in the hose.

My recommendation would be to just ALWAYS pee right before bed, helping your bladder make it through the night. If that isn't good enough, then, well, you may have to deal with getting up.

I highly recommend the Nemo Helio. It gives great water pressure, heats up nicely, and won't spring a leak after a handful of uses like those Coleman bladders do.

Also, depending on the size of you campsite, consider getting one of those 5 gallon water carriers for $8 and spray paint it black. That way you can refill the Helios with hot water over and over. Also, make sure to have that 5 gallon container someplace where the sun will hit it early in the morning.

I commuted to school a little over 12 miles during a month, my senior of high school so I know where you're coming from. I road a heavy mountain bike. I would first suggest getting a better fitting/appropriate bike, this will definitely decrease your time travel. Some other ideas:

• Get Sea to Summit Dry Towel or Speedo Towel
  
• Sick with some all natural deodorant
  
• If it is that bad bring a change of shirt/shoes
  
• Try to mix it up with Public Transportation
  
• Drink water
  
• Add panniers (No experience, but I have heard that it helps with back sweat)
  
• Enjoy your ride, take in surroundings, and smile
  

Amazon has some for the same price, too.

https://smile.amazon.com/Grangers-Clothing-Outerwear-waterproof-washing/dp/B00R1FODEG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1524069315&sr=8-1&keywords=grangers

And here's a better deal, by volume, on the Performance Wash:

https://smile.amazon.com/Grangers-Performance-Ultimate-Cleaner-Outerwear/dp/B00R1FO5MQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1524069315&sr=8-2&keywords=grangers

Just don't order it from Alexa...or she may laugh at you

I like getting the small things as gifts. Things I misplace or might not grab myself.

Gerber Dime Multi-Tool, Black [30-000469] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006M9NIDO/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_pvcBxb58D4MMB

Aimkon iTP A3 EOS Max 130 Lumen LED Flashlight Cool White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003BM5GQ2/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_-vcBxb144A2CF

Frogg Toggs The Original Chilly Pad Cooling Towel, Ice White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CKCUSMQ/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_DwcBxb22YD8AD

Leegoal Ultralight Backpacking Canister Camp Stove with Piezo Ignition 3.9oz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004U8CP88/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_pxcBxbQZ4XD4G

NEW Bottle Clip Strap With Compass Camping Hiking Carabiner Water Holder https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00L3YOLDO/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_pycBxbYD4T2JS

BINGONE Nylon 4-in-1 Drawstring Bags / Ditty Bag / Cord Bag Home Storage Travel Use 4 Different Size https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VM4HR6S/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_dzcBxbMF0HKZ8

WindFire® Mini Zoomable 3 Modes UV-Ultraviolet Led Blacklight Flashlight AA/14500 Rechargeable Battery Zoom UV Ultraviolet Blacklight Flashlight Torch with Features Money Detector, Leak detector and Cat-Dog-Pet Urine Detector (Battery not included) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S4CFB4G/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_KzcBxbEKNHQTQ

iPerb® Aluminum Alloy Tri-cone Shaped Tent Stakes Pegs 15g Each-Pack of 14 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LD2TIUM/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_pAcBxbKVMRABT

Bluecell 16Pcs Red Color Aluminum Guyline Cord Adjuster for Tent Camping Hiking Backpacking Picnic Shelter Shade Canopy Outdoor Activity https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LLUDFMI/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_NAcBxb0GS1V7V

Nite Ize Reflective Nylon Cord, Woven for High Strength, 50 Feet, Green https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004MMEHTC/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_9AcBxbDAJPW6D

Nite Ize KRG-03-11 S-Biner Key Ring, Stainless https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004MMEHWE/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_NEcBxb41K6YTE

Stove, light, knife, cord, stakes, tensioners, blacklight for scorpion spotting for fun, water bottle clip, kee cool wet towel, ditty bags, micro s-biners. For mostly under 10 bucks, few under 20.

Pick some. That flashlight rocks my socks, but I have all of these things.

Links:

For $2, you can use any sink as a wash basin

For $14, you can have your very own portable wash basin that folds up into the size of a paperback

For $4, you can get multipurpose detergent, aka Campsuds. Use sparingly.

potty

We have this one. Use kitty litter in the bottom and trash bags.

For pooping, I would recommend something like this, at least it is all contained to the bag and can use pretty much any bag you need to.

THIS is the detergent, and

THIS is the DWR restoration product I use for my Arc'teryx gear.

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\^ Should do the trick, though keep in mind a garment bag is best practice. A wash-in DWR restoration + detergent product also exists, though this method is a bit less effective than a standalone product.

\^ As far as dryer heat goes, I'd avoid full heat and take to a laundromat if your dryer doesn't have a "medium" or "low-heat" setting. Better safe than sorry, especially with a Beta SL!

1. crash pad
   
   
2. shoes
   
3. chalk
   
4. brushes
   
5. 6 changes of clothes pair of shorts, pair of pants, 2 t-shirts, light jacket, sweatshirt/sweater, 2 pairs of socks, 2 pairs of underwear. You should be wearing about half of this going out. Just air out the clothes you aren't wearing, even better is to wash them in a stream.
   
6. toiletries Bar of soap, toothpaste, toothbrush, toilet paper, deodorant if you must
   
7. harness
   
8. belay device
   
9. warm hat and gloves not sure what the weather will be like but I reserve these for when it may snow
   
10. lots of socks
    
11. lounging shoes, hiking shoes running shoes are good for hiking if your pack isn't heavy >30lbs
    
12. sleeping bag
    
13. tent
    
14. pillow use your clothes
    
15. few 1 bowl
    
16. good calorie dense snacks such as nuts, jerky, dried fruit.
    
17. spork tool
    
18. pocket knife
    
19. phone charger. Is this solar or what? You're probably better off picking up a couple spare extended batteries and charging them up before you go, turn your phone off for most of the trip.
    
20. backpack, is this an additional pack? Or what all of this is in?
    
21. rain jacket $1 poncho
    
22. camera
    
23. book
    
    My additions:
    
    
24. headlamp and extra batteries
    
25. finger nail clippers, ibuprofin, antihistamines, wetnaps, purification tabs, bug spray
    
26. Ultralight towel
    
27. Ground mat
    
28. Camping pot
    
29. Water bottle, like the platypus
    
30. Medical tape
    
31. Firestarting kit: cotton balls soaked in vasoline, lighter, flint/steel
    
32. Whiskey
    
33. Dehydrated food of some sort.
    
    Bonus:
    
    
34. Weather radio
    
35. Camping stove
    
36. Hammock instead of a tent
    
    
    All in all I think you should keep your pack under 30lbs, especially if you are going to be doing some hiking.

No problem. Honestly just compared it to my list.

I would still bring at least a pack a poncho regardless of the weather. Again, I screwed up one time and was miserably wet for one trip. You really dont want your little one to get wet.

I would still bring soap, wipes will not get rid of all of the bacteria like washing with soap will. (husbands a microbiologist). I love this brand.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000TTL8GC/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1727DAIY13GIY&coliid=I2L4HJNPB3A3YN&psc=1

As for rope... paracord is decent. There are lighter options out there.

I love my sea to summit travel towel. It is microfiber but gets an A in fakespot. I have long thick hair and it soaks it all up and dries within in hours. I got the suggestion from a small rec store. Highly recommend! https://www.amazon.com/Sea-to-Summit-DryLite-Towel/dp/B000OPPAQK

campsuds

I'd say forget what you see on youtube, thats some made up fantasy shit. If you try living on the beach prepare to be rousted every time you try to sleep.

Mosquitos will destroy you, be ready to deal with that. Mosquito netting over your bed area is a good idea(I use a king sized bed sheet and a clothes hanger rope over my cot). Also I have one of these I run if unwanted biting insects get into the van, I just full charge my battery before I go to bed and leave it on all night.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079N6BSNR/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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You will need a minimum of two 100w solar panels and a 100amp hour deep cycle battery if you plan to have any kind of electronics. I run a laptop(acer e5-575-338m) two cell phones and a 27" monitor on this all day every day. Once the sun goes down I unplug the laptop from the charger and can get ~6 hours off the laptop battery and the deep cycle will run my cell phone(internet) and my 27" monitor all night with power left over. The 27" monitor uses 28w of power(acer K272HL).

Currently I use this so I can have the panels out in the sun while I'm in the shade:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01L6OU74M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Y connectors to combine the panels:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0753X68PS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This charge controller(I wish I had spent the $200 to get a really good one but it works)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06W5NP5JR/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I went with poly panels, did a ton of research they seemed to be the best option for me.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DCCOSV0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

A couple of these so you can plug in 12v chargers:

https://www.amazon.com/BreaDeep-Cigarette-Lighter-Waterproof-Motorcycle/dp/B014RD1OPU/ref=pd_rhf_ee_s_rp_c_0_2/146-1188812-1452443?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B014RD1OPU&pd_rd_r=6b983fee-fccd-44b0-9fce-701243a4c0df&pd_rd_w=Sa4dV&pd_rd_wg=e0mjZ&pf_rd_p=e7de3e41-8621-46b5-8090-e75951bb9b3e&pf_rd_r=JEW1CZD3WQW1QCM9GMDC&psc=1&refRID=JEW1CZD3WQW1QCM9GMDC

1000w true sine inverter:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002I04A74/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

much cheaper 150w inverter(not true sine):

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01H2XD2DY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Honda generator for when there is no sun or emergency electricity, get the honda its more expensive but I originally had a cheaper generator and it only lasted like 6 months before it broke.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/slredirect/picassoRedirect.html/ref=pa_sp_atf_aps_sr_pg1_1?ie=UTF8&adId=A104214812TOLRTJE6CW7&url=%2FHonda-2200-Watt-Portable-Inverter-Generator%2Fdp%2FB07R1HK2RL%2Fref%3Dsr_1_1_sspa%3Fkeywords%3Dhonda%2Bgenerator%26qid%3D1567965512%26s%3Dgateway%26sr%3D8-1-spons%26psc%3D1%26smid%3DA1QT7IAE1TPQ4M&qualifier=1567965512&id=8997328653646739&widgetName=sp_atf

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You will need a commode, I have tried them all and this works best in my opinion. Use either dirt or mix black water deodorizer in a gallon of water and poor it over the waste. Pee into a separate bottle, combining pee and waste is what cause most of the smell. Then tie off the garbage bag and put it in a gallon freezer bag and store that in a 5 gallon bucket from home depot with an airtight lid. This way you can throw out the waste with your regular garbage.

https://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-Portable-Lightweight-Self-Contained/dp/B000FIDZLI/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=bucket+toilet&qid=1567964099&s=gateway&sr=8-6

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You will need the best cooler you can afford, ice is a serious pain in the ass to keep having to get every day. A Yeti knockoff will work and you can get one for under $200 but a dometic compressor cooler/freezer is best, but it will cost you like $800.

This is the one I have:

https://www.amazon.com/Dometic-Electric-Powered-Portable-Freezer/dp/B072MLT6QW/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=dometic+compressor+cooler&qid=1567964655&s=gateway&sr=8-3

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Another thing I found very useful is a salt shotgun for flys and other annoying insects(its a never ending battle). They make one you can buy but I made my own instead, you just cock the bolt pump it up and then use a funnel to poor a pinch of salt down the barrel. It will kill any bug you shoot as if it was hit by a mini shotgun.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Crosman-P1377BR-American-Classic-Air-Pistol-Bolt-177-Brown-Black/43989760

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I would recommend a cheap propane burner instead of the fancy coleman butane burners, personal preference but when I had the butane burner I would go through butane like crazy and its kind of expensive. Not to mention you can't always find butane in store but you can always find the little propane canisters.

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Wet wipes are your friend.

Apple cider vinegar with water works for a diy sponge bath.

Keep a well stocked medical kit

Get a big can of bear spray or two for self defense, just know it won't work on mountain lions. I keep bear spray and a marlin guide gun for large animals(moose/bear) and a 9mm for two legged predators. I have had death threats and all kinds of crazy shit happen so just be prepared.

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Locking gas cap is a MUST, lost one of my vans due to some asshole pouring water in my gas tank.

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A Verizon phone with the cheapest unlimited tethering plan($70/mo), Verizon has by far the best coverage in the USA.

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I'm probably forgetting something but that is my advice, been on the road over three years now.

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It is going to be hard, extremely hard, you will suffer. Don't expect it to be a vacation, its a survival skill not some pretend shit you see on youtube unless you have unlimited money to spend.

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Gas will be your biggest expense, I spend more on gas that it would cost to rent an apartment. The only way to cut down on that is to find a spot you can stay long term(which is VERY hard, people do NOT want homeless guys in vans living outside there house).

Just get a shammy

Speedo Sports Towel -Blue https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B000F6A9BY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_1sZsDbHBHTPM4

Amazon has these on special today... self contained toilets (with splash guard, natch)
http://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-Portable-Lightweight-Self-Contained/dp/B000FIDZLI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398646056&sr=8-1&keywords=self+contained+toilet

Not exactly a bandanna, but this is similar to what was described above. Definitely recommend it!

Theres always this

Stansport Portable Folding Toilet https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000K6HN22/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_8PvjxbSNKA1ZE

I use this in my Cessna....

http://www.amazon.com/Easi-Pee-Disposable-Urine-Bags/dp/B00DCLNK2Y

This one works well... has anti microbial.

Don't store it wet. Twist it out after use and let it air out before you store it. I use mine daily at the gym (Large) and it's been going strong for months.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01K1TX77W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_2tQRCbNPVCK5H

The most space efficient solution is to use wag bags. If not familiar with them, they're used extensively by campers and hikers; basically a couple of bags with some absorbent material inside. Can be used alone or with a toilet seat that folds up into a very small space like this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Stansport-271-Portable-Folding-Travel/dp/B000K6HN22/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=camping+toilet+seat&qid=1555773820&s=gateway&sr=8-6

Some have entirely biodegradable bags, most can be just tossed in landfill. NOT in pit toilets, etc. Folks make their own with bags and kitty litter. Urine goes into a pee bottle.

Some camping areas now require a system where all human solid waste is carried out, so useful in those scenarios.

You could also look at cassette toilets, kind of an improvement over the bucket-and-seat, but a bit easier to use to dump the waste, and sometimes even smaller. Like this: https://www.amazon.com/Thetford-White-92860-Porta-Potti/dp/B07CHLVS16/ref=sr_1_21?keywords=cassette+toilet&qid=1555774170&s=gateway&sr=8-21

And a portable toilet to go with it

I no longer make bathroom stops. They are way too expensive

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003VSCIJ4/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Oh - and there's an adapter for females as well

https://www.amazon.com/1st-Defense-Industries-Lady-J/dp/B000XT91D0/ref=pd_bxgy_468_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B000XT91D0&pd_rd_r=5WMY1FRH5PVRSHDW5VSZ&pd_rd_w=6j8qO&pd_rd_wg=ErVlH&psc=1&refRID=5WMY1FRH5PVRSHDW5VSZ

Looks like others have the bags covered well, so I will add some alternative ideas. Have you considered downsizing what you carry? Life at 20L is a lot simpler than at 30L. I am a sweaty (but not normally smelly)person and I have been able to switch to baby wipes and deodorant from a full shower and I am happier. I save a lot of time and storage space. I switched to the prana stretch Zion pants which can be bikes in with shorts underneath but are still fine in a business casual setting. I bike in with just a spare shirt wipes and deodorant in my bag. I take 5 minutes for my base layer to dry off a bit then go to the big stall and take off the bike specific clothes, wipe down and add deodorant then put on my collared shirt. I carry that, a small laptop and my lunch in a 20L backpack that I transport in one ortlieb pannier. Ortliebs will hold more than their stated volume but you sacrifice waterproof levels.

My opinion is that the best option is learning to live with 1 pannier. I added internal backpack as I have a long walk to my desk. The ortlieb is not nice to carry long distances and my parking is very secure.

If you really need a shower Micro fiber towels (faux suede)can also save a lot of space and still get you dry but require a different technique as they grab the skin a lot more. You need to dab or have it balled to wipe down. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01K1TX77W/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1520022164&sr=8-1-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=microfiber%2Btowel&psc=1&th=1

Well, unless you get like a travel towel, quick dry towels are not even close to BIFL.

One thing I have heard is that using too much soap helps mildew grow, so next wash wash them alone, and use half the recommended amount of soap listed on the bottle. A lot of laundry soaps are very concentrated and often too much gets used.

I bought an extra small of this It worked quite well as a multi-purpose towel. I used it as a sweat band during hot days, a pre-filter in mucky water, and as an actual towel. It's super small so it'll fit really anywhere, even in your pocket if you had to.

this may sound crude, but if you are at a desk or cubicle or office how about an emergency Gatorade bottle

or something like this https://www.amazon.com/Easi-Pee-Disposable-Urine-Bags/dp/B00DCLNK2Y

I've been happy with Campsuds. A little goes a LONG way!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001ANXJVI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

My partner and I were on a tour in Japan for 3 months, and we used Campsuds which are super concentrated, biodegradable and totally safe. Whenever we needed to wash stuff in the sink, just plug the sink (bring your own plug) and put just a few drops in. After you swish it around, there is plenty of soapy water in there to clean clothes, cooking equip, and anything else that needs scrubbed. We didnt even use a quarter of the bottle, and we washed cooking stuff every day, and clothes every 3 or so.


Hope this helps!

I bought a NEMO Helio Pressure Shower last year.. it worked like a charm, and is a good investment. For a warmer shower, let the tank sit in the sun for a little bit and it will heat up. -- Providing your own water can be done fairly easily if you remember to grab a few gallon jugs while you are grabbing food/supplies.

Edit - Currently on sale at 25% off

Live in CO but when I commuted to work on my bike in NC in the summer I would take my clothes in my bag wipe the swear off with a microfiber dry towell (https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01K1TX77W/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1486998051&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=fast+drying+towels+bath&dpPl=1&dpID=416HcYQQ56L&ref=plSrch) and the use baby wipes then dry off again then I used deodorant again. Helps to shower before your ride something about bacteria and microbes and starting fresh front he start keeps the smell away.

Not sure if it's $20 each or $20 for both.

Camping towel

Pocket knife wallet size survival kit

3D Cat puzzle

3D Cat puzzle box (a little over your budget)

Cat stress relief book

so can you re-use the trash-bag for multiple times without getting it stink? also no need to close the nylon bag after being used??
and last question are we talking on something like that?: https://www.amazon.com/Stansport-4B-Portable-Folding-Toilet/dp/B000K6HN22

I use one of the ones that retains the water longer. forgot the brand name, but they sell them in the camping gear. I highly recommend that. below is an example but there are other options. https://www.amazon.com/Original-Cooling-Towel-Extreme-Relief/dp/B00VSH7LEM

In Texas, this contest is quite welcome (especially since I suffered heat exhaustion playing a disc golf tournament a little over a week ago):

this doo dad sounds amazing!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY LUKIE!

I'n not a pilot. The pilots have bags that they can pee in if they absolutely have to. The pee turns to gel so it can't get all over the place.

http://www.amazon.com/TravelJohn-Disposable-Vomit-Children-Adults/dp/B003IW8IXI/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1407123564&sr=8-5&keywords=barf+bag

Internet No idea. When I'm out I tether from my phone but I don't have near the data requirements you have.

Bathroom You definitely don't need it in town. Get a membership at a national chain gym and you can use the shower/bathroom in any major city pretty damn easily. Plus, you can always stop by a Starbucks or the like to use the restroom during the day.

In the wild, you might want to add a few things to your cargo area to make things easier. Pour some warm water in this bad boy and you'll have a surprisingly good shower alternative. You could also get a small composting toilet. Both that and the shower are pretty small and easy to tuck away, so even in a van you should be alright toting them along.

Driving: My advice here depends on where you think you'll be spending most of your time. Since you're new to driving, I would definitely advise against getting a larger vehicle if you're going to be hanging around urban areas a lot. If you're planning on spending most of your time in national parks and the like, then it shouldn't really matter.

Gas: I couldn't believe how much money I was spending on gas when I bought my van. 15 MPG doesn't sound that bad, but my god, it is. I don't know what RVs get, but if you're going to be on the road a lot, I'd sit down and calculate out the cost difference. It might be more than you'd expect.

Price: If you're willing to spend $10,000, you can get what you want, for the most part. Even with a small RV you should be able to get a quality vehicle in that price range. You just gotta be patient and keep your eyes open for deals.

Sound proofing: Neither are very sound proof. If you peruse through the posts in this sub, you'll see a disproportionate number of them are on adding insulation. That's because stock, these all have almost zero. Think about someone sitting in a normal car and talking on their phone. Sound transfers about the same amount in a van/RV.

Something like this

Amazon's got your back

Time to switch to disposable urine bags!

You won't regret it! :D

I ended up getting this -> https://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-Portable-Lightweight-Self-Contained/dp/B000FIDZLI/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1519854320&sr=8-7&keywords=camp+toilet

You may find this useful then.

so first of, I am a dude and it is a lot easier to pee in certain situations being a guy... If I was a girl maybe I would be more inclined to install a bathroom, but I can't speak for everyone. But anyways.... I will be working in healthcare facilities that have locker rooms including showers that I will have access to 24/7. I also plan on getting a planet fitness membership and can also use those facilities 24/5 (24hrs during weekdays). I already workout every day at a gym so going to a bathroom and showering in a gym is more normal than using my bathroom at home to be honest. Regardless, I will also have a non translucent bottle with me in case I really need to pee but can't find a place to go. If something is going on with my stomach and I really can't make it somewhere to take a crap I might get something like this but I really really only want that to be for emergency situations..... My friend just started vandwelling and he decided to go a little more luxurious and he got a portable toilet similar to this for emergencies and apparently they are pretty odorless and emptying them isn't that bad....I may end up getting one but I want to see how well I can deal without one. The benefit of those portable toilets is that they prevent you from having to deal with black water plumbing which adds complexity to your design and increases maintenance a lot. You also have to empty the black water tank at specific dumping locations. But some models of the portable toilet are not completely odorless and I've never personally emptied one so it might suck. As for showers, besides the health center and planet fitness I may get a camping shower or just get one of these and rig it into a jerry can or something for outdoor showers.

I use a p-style for backpacking. I've been considering bringing it on long rides, too. It's never fun to peel off the bib shorts and expose my backside to the world...

https://www.amazon.com/SereneLife-Portable-Indicator-Traveling-Roadtripping/dp/B07218B4DQ/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1539395421&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=portable+toilet&psc=1

> Having no real way to crap at night. (Always go before you go to sleep!)
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Dude! http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Camp-Toilet-Camping-Commode/dp/B000CN9CN6/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&qid=1415065795&sr=8-19&keywords=portable+toilet

The only way I can think of to do this in an Astro van is with a portable shower with maybe a hose to your van's water supply and a portable toilet where you poop into wag bags.

Beats the hell out of a leaky shower bag hung under a M119 tube

NEMO Shower

I primarily bought it for camping, but have used my pstyle in gross public restrooms at least as much as I have camping. I think every girl should have one!

I know it is way too late for tonight but there are these amazing towel things that help you stay cool in the heat. They are called Chilly Pads. I used one when I was outside last week when it was around 100 and I swear by the thing. Pretty amazing find!

this is why there is a stereotype of people who live in a van.

I saw in your other thread you need a toilet idea. This thing works great. Keep an eye on the price, I bought mine in the low $20s
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FIDZLI