Best computer mice according to redditors
We found 3,395 Reddit comments discussing the best computer mice. We ranked the 835 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
We found 3,395 Reddit comments discussing the best computer mice. We ranked the 835 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
Logitech G Powerplay Wireless Charging System for G703, G903 Lightspeed Wireless Gaming Mice, Cloth or Hard Gaming Mouse Pad https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071WZ56G9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_wLcHDbFMNCF81
Also consider a vertical mouse, it keeps your wrist in a a more neutral position (less forearm pronation). I use this one: https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Ergonomic-Optical-Vertical-Buttons/dp/B00FPAVUHC/
It takes some adjustment and is probably not as accurate for twitch movements, but it should help reduce the strain on your wrists if you're having problems.
Comment due to the 10000 char. limit. Thanks for all the suggestions in the comments!
Roccat Kone[+] - $90
135mm/5.31" x 78mm/3.07" x No Height Provided.
This mouse is on the larger size, geared more toward the palm grip. This mouse has a max DPI setting of 6000. It has customizable LEDs on the mouse, as well as the ability to save up to five profiles. The mouse comes with four 5g weights that you can adjust to your liking. It has 8 programmable buttons.
Razer Naga - $85
116mm/4.57” x 70mm/2.75” x 46mm/1.81”
This mouse is geared towards MMO players. It has 17 programmable buttons, 12 of which are on the side. It has a max DPI setting of 5600, and it also has customizable LEDs. It comes with three different side grips that you choose from to add comfort.
Razer Mamba - $120
115 mm/4.53” x 68 mm/2.68” x 43 mm/1.69”
The Razer Mamba is very visually similar to the Deathadder. It has 7 buttons rather than 5, and has a max DPI of 6400. It has customizable LEDs, and comes with wireless and wired options. it's a little smaller than the Deathadder, so it's more suitable for claw and possibly fingertip grippers.
Razer Imperator - $75
123mm/4.84" x 71mm/2.79" x 42mm/1.65"
The Razer Imperator has a max 5600 DPI sensor, and 7 programmable buttons. This mouse is optimized for comfort, one feature of which is that you can actually move the side buttons to fit where your thumb is.
Logitech G500 - $60
129mm/5.09" x 76mm/2.99" x 44mm/1.73"
The G500 has 10 programmable buttons and a max DPI of 5700. This mouse has two scrolling modes -click and freescrolling. It also comes with up to 27g of weight that can be added on to your liking.
Logitech G700 - $90
126mm/4.96" x 80mm/3.15" x 46mm/1.81"
The Logitech G700 boasts 13 programmable buttons and a max DPI of 5700. It is advertised as being ideal for MMO players. It can save up to five profiles. This mouse also has both wireless and wired options.
Logitech G400 - $40
131mm/5.16" x 73mm/2.87" x 43mm/1.69"
The Logitech G400 is an variation of the the MX518. It has a max DPI setting of 3600, and 8 programmable buttons. Of these buttons, two of these are designed to switch DPI on the fly.
Cooler Master CM Storm Xornet - $25
107mm/4.21" x 75mm/2.95" x 35mm/1.38"
Although it's the cheapest mouse I have listed here, it doesn't lack quality. This mouse has a max DPI of 2000, and has 5 programmable buttons, as well as two buttons to adjust DPI. It's smaller, so it's more suitable for claw and fingertip grip users.
Cooler Master CM Storm Spawn - $30
107mm/4.21" x 75mm/2.95" x 35mm/1.38"
The CM Storm Spawn is an upgraded version of the Xornet, with a higher max DPI setting of 3500.
Mionix Naos 3200 - $50
131mm/5.15" x 85mm/3.33" x 39mm/1.52"
The Naos 3200 is another mouse more geared towards palm grippers. As the name suggests, the max DPI is 3200. The mouse has customizable LEDs, as well as three quick change DPI settings. The Naos 3200 has seven programmable buttons. There is also a Naos 5000 which brings the max DPI up to 5040, and also has adjustable weights.
Thermaltake eSPORTS Black Element - $65
124mm/4.88" x 67mm/2.64" x 42mm/1.65"
The Black Element has a max DPI of 6500, the highest of all the listed mice. It has 9 programmable keys and customizable LEDs (5 color settings). This mouse can save up to 45 different macros on five profiles.
Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 - $40
132mm/5.2" x 69mm/2.72" x 43mm/1.68mm
The Intellimouse 3.0 is an odd one. While it only has a max DPI of 400, it has many features of a gaming mouse. You can quickly adjust the DPI to between 10 and 90% to be more precise. It has two side buttons in addition to the 3 main buttons. you can also program Macros for certain keystrokes.
Steelseries Ikari - $55
126mm/4.96" x 68mm/2.68" x 39mm/1.54"
The Ikari has 6 programmable buttons, and a max DPI setting of 3200. It has an LCD display where you can change your settings. It also has an "On-The-fly" button where you can switch between two different settings.
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As for lefties, sadly the market is very short on left handed mice. Generally, you'll have to use an ambidextrous mouse, although there are some mice that have a left handed version, like the Deathadder.
A few ambidextrous mice:
Steelseries Sensei - $90
126mm/4.96in x 68mm/2.68mm x 39mm/1.54mm
The Steelseries Sensei features 7 programmable buttons, as well as customizable LEDs. It also has an LCD screen on the bottom that you can customize with your own picture to prevent theft at big LAN events. The Sensei has a max DPI setting of 5700. The Steelseries Xai and Steelseries Kana are very similar mice with a couple less features than the Sensei..
Razer Lachesis - $70
129 mm/5.08” x 71 mm/2.80" x 40 mm/1.58”
The Razer Lachesis has customizable LEDs along with 9 programmable buttons. It has a max DPI setting of 5600.
I'm much less knowledgeable on left handed mice, so if anyone has any input, that would be appreciated!
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Of course, these are not the only gaming mice. There are plenty not listed here that you could consider, this is just a general list.
As more mice are released I will try to update this. If I've included any incorrect information, or am missing some important points, please let me know! If there's a certain mouse you think I should include in this guide, put it in the comments!
I love my Logitech M570 for airplanes. Way better than a trackpad and smaller footprint than a mouse.
Warning, big ass list of stuff.
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-RM1000x-Modular-Certified-warranty/dp/B015YEI7LK for $130
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-RM750i-Modular-Certified-warranty/dp/B00YPNSQTU for $100
https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Gaming-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST4000DX001/dp/B00FQH7MQ2 for $117
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Single-PC3L-12800-SODIMM-204-Pin/dp/B006YG8X9Y $20.79
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-SODIMM-Memory-System-CT2K8G3S160BM/dp/B008LTBJFW $42.79
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Obsidian-750D-Performance-Tower/dp/B00EB6O4N8 $99.99
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Trackball-Computer-Mouse/dp/B0043T7FXE $20
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G13-Programmable-Gameboard-Display/dp/B001NEK2GE $34
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Gaming-SCIMITAR-Mechanical-Buttons/dp/B019OQJ9XE $60
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Performance-Mouse-Mac/dp/B002HWRJBM $45
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Surround-Theater-External-Speakers/dp/B004M18O60/ $250
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Hyperion-Gaming-Fusion-910-004069/dp/B00LZVNWIA $30
https://www.amazon.com/HyperX-Cloud-Gaming-Headset-PS4/dp/B00Y09G6H8 $75
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Surround-Hybrid-Headset-Adapter/dp/B01B1H33WW $60
https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-PC-350-Special-2015/dp/B015ZKJIYI $90
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Keyboard-Touchpad-Internet-Connected/dp/B014EUQOGK $18
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-U28E590D-28-Inch-LED-Lit-Monitor/dp/B00YD3DBOC $300
https://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-Portable-External-GP65NB60/dp/B00ODDE33U $20
https://www.amazon.com/Ballistix-PC3-12800-240-Pin-Memory-BLS4KIT8G3D1609DS1S00/dp/B007HAXMGA $96
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-16GBx2-PC4-17000-SODIMM-260-Pin/dp/B015YPB8ME $96
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Dominator-Platinum-3200MHz-PC4-25600/dp/B018GK2G9S $96
https://www.amazon.com/Ballistix-Sport-8GBx2-PC4-19200-288-Pin/dp/B01AG9EZ3M $55 (must-have for a white-themed build)
https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-DOMINATOR-Platinum-3000MHz-Systems/dp/B016BWENUI/ $194
https://www.amazon.com/Transcend-JetFlash-Flash-Drive-TS32GJF790K/dp/B00JKATVUQ $7.50 (32GB)
https://www.amazon.com/PNY-Elite-32GB-Flash-Drive/dp/B01E17L6AK/ $8.50
https://www.amazon.com/PNY-Turbo-Elite-Flash-Drive/dp/B01DWN1CMG/ $12 (64GB)
https://www.amazon.com/Transcend-MicroSDHC-Memory-Adapter-TS32GUSDU1PE/dp/B015J44R0U $7 (32GB)
https://www.amazon.com/PNY-MicroSDXC-Adapter--UHS-I-P-SDU64U185EL-GE/dp/B01G26R7M4 $14 (64GB)
https://www.amazon.com/Transcend-MicroSDXC-Memory-Adapter-TS64GUSDU1PE/dp/B016B6AMFY $14 (64GB)
Roughly $25. Same price at best buy too as it seem like this was a retail purchase.
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Corded-Mouse-Hyper-Fast-Scroll/dp/B002B3YCQM/ref=asc_df_B002B3YCQM/
$130 - Sennheiser HD 599 SE Special Edition, Black
$130 - Sennheiser HD 4.50 Special Edition, Bluetooth Wireless Headphone with Active Noise Cancellation, Black
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$541 - HKC 34'' (3440x1440p) 21:9 Ultrawide 100hz Curved Freesync VA Panel 8ms GTG Rebranded Viotek GN34C, I think it's a Samsung CF791 Panel
$870 - Samsung LC34J791WTNXZA 34" 3440x1440 100Hz QLED 21:9 VA Freesync Thunderbolt 3
$115 - ViewSonic VX2257-MHD 22 Inch 75Hz 2ms 1080p TN
$650 - Samsung 32" QLED 1440p 144Hz HDR 600 WQHD Curved Gaming Monitor Freesync 2 VA
$315 - LG 27GL650F-B 27" 144hz IPS HDR 10 Freesync
$165 - AOPEN 24HC1QR Pbidpx 23.6" 1080p 144hz 1800R Curved FreeSync 4ms VA
$320 - AOPEN 32HC1QUR Pbidpx 31.5" (2560x1440) 144Hz 1800R Curved VA 4ms Freesync Ships within 1-3 months
$260 - ViewSonic VX3276-2K-MHD 32 Inch 1440p IPS Frameless
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$270 - AMD Ryzen 7 2700X
$765 - AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X
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$200 - Toshiba X300 8TB Hard Drive 7200 RPM 128MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5 Inch
$120 - Toshiba NAS N300 4TB NAS 3.5-Inch Internal Hard Drive- SATA 6 Gb/s 7200 RPM 128MB
$315 - Toshiba NAS N300 10TB NAS 3.5-Inch Internal Hard Drive- SATA 6 Gb/s 7200 RPM 256MB
$80 - Seagate FireCuda 2TB SSHD 2.5 Inch SATA
$57/96/186 - XPG GAMMIX 256/512GB/1TB S11 Pro 3D NAND PCIe NVMe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 SSD
$106 - Crucial P1 1TB 3D NAND NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD
$107 - Crucial BX500 960GB 3D NAND SATA 2.5-Inch Internal SSD
$242 - Crucial MX500 2TB 3D NAND SATA 2.5 Inch SSD
$104 - Toshiba Canvio Advance 4TB Portable External Hard Drive USB 3.0, White
$120 - WD Elements 6TB USB 3.0 External HDD Color Black WDBWLG0060HBK-NESN
$95 - Samsung 860 EVO 500GB 2.5" SATA III SSD
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$81 - Ballistix Sport LT 16GB Kit (2x8GB) DDR4 3000 MT/s (PC4-24000) CL15 SR Gray
$137 - Ballistix Elite 16GB Kit (8GBx2) DDR4 3600 MT/s (PC4-28800) CL16 SR Ships within 1-2 months
$73 - Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4x4GB) DDR4 3000 CL16 Black Non-prime, ships within 1-3 months
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Other Components
$110 - DEEPCOOL Castle 240 RGB Liquid CPU Cooler Non-prime
$170 - Corsair H115i 280mm RGB Platinum AIO Liquid CPU Cooler
$35 - Deepcool RF120 3-Pack 120mm RGB PWM Fans with Fan Hub and Extension Non-prime
$805 - ZOTAC Gaming GeForce RTX 2080 Twin Fan 8GB
$198 - Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO ATX Motherboard
$120 - Corsair RM750x 80 Plus Gold Fully Modular ATX PSU CP-9020179-NA
$170 - Corsair HX850i High Performance 80+ Platinum Fully Modular ATX PSU
$60 - Corsair Fan Controller Commander Pro CL-9011110-WW
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$33 - Logitech G602 Wireless Gaming Mouse
$40 - Logitech G403 Prodigy Wired Gaming Mouse
$50 - Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum RGB Tunable Gaming Mouse
$50 - Razer DeathAdder Elite: True 16,000 5G Optical Sensor
$64 - SteelSeries Rival 600 Gaming Mouse, 12,000 CPI TrueMove3+ Dual Optical Sensor
$55 - Logitech MX Master 2S Wireless Mouse, Graphite Ships within 1-2 months
$22 - NETGEAR 8-Port Gigabit Ethernet Unmanaged Switch
$25 - HyperX Double Shot Black & White Pudding PBT Keycaps - 104 Mechanical Keycap Set for Cherry MX
$30 - Corsair mm350 Anti-Fray Cloth Gaming Mouse Pad Extended XL
$10.50 - SteelSeries QcK Gaming Surface - Medium Cloth
$23 - SteelSeries QcK Gaming Surface - Medium Hard
$135 - Razer Huntsman: Opto-Mechanical Switch
$55 - Logitech C920 Webcam HD Pro (960-000764)
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$10.91 - AmazonBasics AAA High-Capacity Rechargeable Batteries (8-Pack) Pre-charged 850mAh
$12.48 - AmazonBasics AAA Rechargeable Batteries (12-Pack) 800mAh
$18.89 - AmazonBasics AA High-Capacity Rechargeable Batteries (8-Pack) Pre-charged 2400mAh
$1.49 - Oreos and other snacks :)
My most recent gaming mice are the Logitech G400, which has the advantages of solid construction and a nice heft:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Optical-Gaming-High-Precision-910-002277/dp/B0055QZ216
http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/g400s-optical-gaming-mouse
And the Razer Deathadder, which I'm almost positive is the 2013 edition:
http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-mice/razer-deathadder
http://www.amazon.com/Razer-DeathAdder-Essential-Ergonomic-RZ01-00840100-R3U1/dp/B00AAS888S
In general Razer and Logitech both make a solid mouse, and since it sounds like you're already a happy Razer customer, I wouldn't hesitate much to go with the DA 2013. If you did hesitate, I've been salivating just a little over Zowie mice:
http://www.zowiegear.com/index.php?i=products&p=1
I haven't actually gamed with one and can't personally comment on their performance, but you should at least take a look. They're apparently designed with Counter-Strike and Starcraft especially in mind, if those games are your thing.
Edit: Forgot to mention the G500, which can be generally thought of as a single step upgrade from the G400 in quality and price:
http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/g500s-laser-gaming-mouse
If you're looking at the 400, make sure to consider the 500 as well.
As a former Naga user, the extra macro keys on the G600 might interest you:
http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/g600-mmo-gaming-mouse
edit2: This is all assuming you want to move on fron the Razer Naga. They still sell it; in fact, they sell multiple versions. If it made you happy, there's nothing stopping you from just buying another one.
Yep, the G400. I switched from a 518 to it and haven't looked back. It's the same shape and button layout, but more precise.
*edit: wrong product name
As soon as I read flip the mouse out, I knew exactly what model it was. I hate these things. I got chewed out by the CEO of a company I worked for because he couldn't figure out how to get the mouse working. I had to open it for him in front of a prospective client. He wasn't happy that he made himself look like an idiot, and blamed me for it.
Also, I could buy a Logitech MX Master Mouse for around the same price and get a 10x better experience.
Personally I use a Logitech G502, they have tons of great gaming mice in their lineup. It's been going strong for nearly 3 years now, so frankly I can't speak about the quality of customer service, since I haven't had to use it.
For some options I don't have any personal experience with (using or customer service), you could try the Zowie FK2 or the Finalmouse Ultralight. It just come down to personal preference (mouse shape/grip, number of extra buttons, extra button placement, what software comes with the mouse, etc)
The mouse is Logitech MX Master 2s, the keyboard is space gray Magic Keyboard that comes with the iMac Pro, a new simpler and good looking monitor arm (Ergotron HX Desk Mount) and a new desk mat (Satechi mat & mate) The cup is from a japanese brand called Zero Japan. I've bought it from Japan, but you can get it from Amazon.com as well. It's a standing desk. A monitor arm makes it both clean, gives me more space and also makes it easy to lower/raise the iMac.
All the links for the gear:
Checkout my tweet which contains more photos: https://twitter.com/fatih/status/969587649911709696
Logitech M570 trackball mouse - $19.99
I've had a 15 year trackball hiatus, and it's finally over.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
|Type|Item|Price|
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|CPU|AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor|$97.99 @ SuperBiiz|
|Motherboard|ASRock - B450M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard|$61.98 @ Newegg|
|Memory|Patriot - Viper 4 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory|$59.99 @ Newegg Business|
|Storage|Team - L5 LITE 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive|$19.99 @ Newegg Business|
|Storage|Western Digital - RE3 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive|$39.35 @ Amazon|
|Video Card|PowerColor - Radeon RX 570 4 GB RED DRAGON Video Card|$139.99 @ Newegg|
|Case|Thermaltake - Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case|$31.78 @ Amazon|
|Power Supply|EVGA - BT 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply|$35.98 @ Newegg Business|
|Monitor|Asus - VZ239H 23.0" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor|$89.99 @ Newegg|
|Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts|||
|Total|$577.04||
|Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-18 23:06 EST-0500|||
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I don't know why people are telling you to go used because it really isn't that hard to make a good build with your budget. As compared to u/hunaybadja6 's build, this has a slightly better processor, a much better graphics card, faster memory (gives more fps on ryzen processors), and a slightly larger monitor with IPS at the cost of 15hz (either monitor is fine tbh.) As for peripherals, there is room in the budget for cheap models from amazon. I recommend this mouse ( i use it myself), and any cheap keyboard from amazon. It's really easy to find one for 10-20 bucks.
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Yes, it is a track ball for that type of computer mouse. I own the same thing.
Logitech Trackman Marble Mouse, Four-Button, Programmable, Dark Gray https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001F42MKG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_Mt25BbKWTVCK9
I'm updating as I go. Give me a second guys. Difference in savings is based on camelcamelcamel.com average on an item & sorry the links are all Smile links since I have Smile Always enabled.
Edit: Just caught a CP 870 Snorlax.
RAM | Price | Link | Savings | Comments
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Corsair Dominator Platinum Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz | $95.99 | Link | $41.01 | n/a
CORSAIR DOMINATOR Platinum Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 DRAM 3000MHz | $193.99 | Link | $85 | n/a
Crucial 32GB Kit (16GBx2) DDR4 2133 MT/s (PC4-17000) SODIMM 260-Pin Memory | $95.99 | Link | $40.69 | n/a
Ballistix Sport 32GB Kit (8GBx4) DDR3 1600 MT/s (PC3-12800) CL9 @1.5V UDIMM 240-Pin Memory | $95.87 | Link | $44.14 | n/a
Crucial 16GB Kit (8GBx2) DDR3L 1600 SODIMM Memory for Mac System | $42.79 | Link | $16.54 | n/a
Crucial 8GB Single DDR3L 1600 MT/s (PC3L-12800) SODIMM 204-Pin Memory | $20.79 | Link | $9.70 | n/a
Monitors | Price | Link | Savings | Comments
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Samsung U28E590D 28-Inch UHD LED-Lit Monitor | $441.85 | Link | $4.84 | n/a
PSU | Price | Link | Savings | Comments
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Corsair RMx Series, RM1000x, 1000W, Fully Modular Power Supply, 80+ Gold Certified, 10 year warranty | $129.99 | Link | $35.57 | n/a
Corsair RMi Series, RM750i, 750 Watt (750W), Fully Modular Power Supply, 80+ Gold Certified, 10 year warranty | $99.99 | Link | $20.23 | n/a
HDD | Price | Link | Savings | Comments
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Seagate 4TB Gaming SSHD(Solid State Hybrid Drive) SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive | $116.99 | Link | $26.84 | n/a
Headsets | Price | Link | Savings | Comments
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HyperX Cloud II Gaming Headset | $85.10 | Link | $7 | n/a
Sennheiser PC 350 Special Edition 2015 | $89.99 | Link | $65.53 | n/a
Corsair VOID Surround Hybrid Stereo Gaming Headset with Dolby 7.1 | $59.99 | Link | $14.12 | n/a
Case | Price | Link | Savings | Comments
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Corsair Obsidian Series 750D Performance Full Tower Case | $99.99 | Link | $46.79 | n/a
Keyboards | Price | Link | Savings | Comments
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Logitech G13 Programmable Gameboard with LCD Display | $38.99 | Link | $20.56 | n/a
Logitech Wireless Touch Keyboard K400 Plus | $31.73 | Link | -$1.84 (lol) | I already own this. AMA?
Mice | Price | Link | Savings | Comments
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Logitech M570 Wireless Trackball | $19.99 | Link | $10.69 | n/a
Logitech Wireless Performance Mouse MX | $66.02 | Link | -$4.62 | n/a
Corsair Gaming SCIMITAR RGB MOBA/MMO Gaming Mouse | $59.99 | Link | $14 | n/a
Logitech G402 Hyperion Fury FPS Gaming Mouse | $43.00 | Link | $3.04 | n/a
Flash Memory | Price | Link | Savings | Comments
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Transcend 32GB JetFlash 790 USB 3.0 Flash Drive | $7.49 | Link | $4.40 | n/a
PNY Elite X 32GB USB 3.0 Flash Drive | $8.49 | Link | ~$5 | n/a
PNY Turbo Elite 64GB USB 3.0 Flash Drive | $11.99 | Link | $3 | n/a
Transcend 32GB MicroSDHC Class 10 UHS-1 Memory Card with Adapter | $6.99 | Link | $13.61 | n/a
PNY Elite 64GB MicroSDXC Card with Adapter | $13.99 | Link | $3 | n/a
Transcend 64GB MicroSDXC Class 10 UHS-1 Memory Card with Adapter | $13.99 | Link | $16.63 | n/a
Temp (Title) | Temp (Price) | Temp (link) | Temp (Savings) | n/a
DPI means nothing really. It just means dots per inch, and correlates to sensitivity. A lot of professional CS:GO players play on 400-800 dpi, because a lower dpi means that they can make smaller aim adjustments much easier. However, since all games have a modifiable sensitivity, then DPI is just your overall preference across all games. Having a mouse with 400 DPI isn't going to give you a disadvantage/advantage over a 3200 DPI mouse. The only thing that matters is the build shape for your playstyle(claw grip, palm grip, hybrid), sensor(usually optical vs laser), and weight.
Two mouse recommendations I have are the Zowie FK1, and the mouse I am currently using which is the Logitech G703. If you can, try to go to a computer store where you can try out a few to see if they feel right right to you. There really is no need to fret over DPI.
No G400? The spiritual successor to the MX 518.
From a DPI standpoint it's on par with the Deathadder but $15 cheaper, I guess it would depend on your grip preference though.
Seriously the best bang for your buck, gamer or otherwise is the g400. Premium optical sensor (Avago ADNS-A3080E/S3095) with the best tracking on the market. Laser sensors suffer from certain inaccuracies. Retails for around 30-40. Amazon Link
If you hate the form factor, go with the death adder, which is cheaper in construction in my opinion but some prefer the form factor of the death adder: Amazon Link.
You might want to provide more information, such as usage for the mouse: gamer, artist, high dpi needed, low dpi needed, on the fly dpi switching etc. Are you a palm grip or claw grip? Do you use your wrist primarily for mousing or your whole forearm? What type of mousing surface do you like?
I highly recommend anything from Logitech. Their products tend to last longer than almost anything else I've used.
Logitech G400 Gaming Mouse is one of the best mice you can buy, and it fits into your price range.
Also, if you want to just get another Razer Deathadder, they are going for $40 on Amazon.
Here is all of it.
desk top
Desk top was sanded and stained to get this color.
desk legs
27in 4K monitor
monitor arm
speakers
mouse
keyboard
laptop stand
my bank account
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Powerplay-Wireless-Charging-Lightspeed/dp/B071WZ56G9/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?keywords=logitech+wireless+charging+mouse+pad&qid=1566445639&s=gateway&sprefix=logitech+wireless+char&sr=8-4 just pair this with a g703 or g903
Intellimouse 3.0
Or just a vertical mouse
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001204-Corded-Mouse-M500/product-reviews/B002B3YCQM?pageNumber=4
>The other thing that I really appreciate is the easy-open packaging. I took out a pair of scissors planning to do battle with the plastic packaging and saw a little tab with "easy open" on it in the back. You just pull it down and you can access your product - without a pair of scissors.
You done?
+1 for MX Master, provided you can get used to the slightly unusual form factor.
Depending on how many buttons you need, you could even run with something simpler like a Logitech M510 Wireless Mouse
+$5 to get it in two days from Amazon.
Upgrade to the wireless version. I have been using this version for a few years. Cannot go back to a normal mouse.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-M570-Wireless-Trackball/dp/B0043T7FXE
Logitech G400, the direct successor of the MX518, which was considered the best by many.
Heh. The X1 "Force" scheme leaves me gazing lovingly at my mouse.
280 total hours.Open by saying I think r/Luciorollouts is vital to lucio main development and they epitomize his playstyle but rollouts themselves are just practice.
>Is it less effective to use right click than scroll?
Yes, absolutely. But only if you have an appropriate mouse. I recently replaced my mouse and my new one had a plastic scrollwheel with stiff clicks when spinning. Totally destroyed my ability to wall-skim. I threw it in the trash. If you have a mouse like that than RMB is probably better.
There's a simple,$25 solution. Logitech m500 is a simple wired mouse with thumb buttons. It's affordable with a 3 year warranty. What matters though is that it has a frictionless, heavyweight metal scrollwheel that has a button that toggles it between freespin and locked/click mode. I play it locked mode. So even though it isn't frictionless, the heavy metal allows you to get good momentum off the flick and gives you really precise control between quick, bunny-hoppy wallskims and longer spins that create a wider window/margin of error when doing rollouts.. Can't over-exaggerate the importance of this mouse IME. Just spend the $25 and get a perfect rollout mouse in the mail on Monday.
> tried it but couldn't get used to it
I delayed trying it but if you have secondary keybinds for jump (RMB) it's easy to make the switch. Took me less than a day.
> What keybindings are the best?I
Obviously whatever works best for you but only after you've tried alternatives. I too use RMB for secondary jump for sustained wall rides in addition to scrollwheel. I use the forward thumb button for boop. I use spacebar for crossfaide. My goal is to have abilities with splitsecond timing on the mouse. Space is great for crossfade because it's an easy button to hold for long periods without fatigue. Space is bad for jump and boop because it's too imprecise in its timing.
> 2:Are rollouts important,how important are they and are they essential
Short answer is no. Y'know how in soccer players practice juggling the ball up in the air with their feet even though that juggling is never used in game? They do it because it builds foot coordination which is applicable to other ingame skills. Rollouts are a lot like that. It's rare that you should use a fullspeed rollout and abandon the team after spawn. But rollouts require precision in your wall-skim technique and excellent map knowledge. By mastering rollouts, you gain the ability to use rollout-level speed and agility 100% of the time during the match no matter where you are. A good lucio needs to be able to move between his flankers and his backliine at any moment using rollout-like mobility. And it feels AMAZING once you get to that point in like a month.
> I want to get to know the basics first because I only have 10 hours on Lucio
Just start with the best keybinds and build organically no matter how strange it feels at first. Don't study or train. Just have fun with it. Sometimes you'll be in the mood to watch vids and practice rollouts and other times you'll just want to play. Just do that and you'll naturally mature into the playstyle that is right for you rather than trying to force yourself into someone else's playstyle that doesn't value your unique strengths and talents.
> Also is it possible to accomplish them without using scroll wheel or can I do them with right click?
Short answer, no. Long answer, yes it is possible if you spent many hours learning to play lucio the hard way using tools that limit you drastically.
Tips:
I remember i had the same off-white microsoft optical mouse for years until the right click started to not work
Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00006B7HB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_O8JhDbP3JDQQ3
Well I guess it wasn't off-white when it was new...
[All of them.] (http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Laser-Gaming-Mouse-RZ01-00280100-R3/dp/B002MPPRPO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1324772939&sr=8-1)
Setup:
2X LG 27UL500-W 27-Inch UHD Monitors
Mantiz Titan Thunderbolt 3 dock
VIVO Gas Spring Monitor Arm (replaced USB cables with USB 3 ones)
PrimeCables Electric Standing Desk Frame
Macbook Pro (2018)
Logitech MX Master Mouse
IKEA GERTON Tabletop stained withRubio Monocoat Walnut
Steelcase Leap v1 high back chair
The G400 is basically an updated MX518, for 35$.
logitech mx518
It was cheap and had good specs, so it was supposed to hold me over for a couple months. Damn thing is over 10 years old and won't die. It's younger brother (g400) is damn near industructable (seems to be more than your budget, I paid less than your budget though)
Yep, I'm a truck driver, I use the Logitech Wireless Trackball M570 for my laptop on the road.
Get an external mouse asap, potentially an external keyboard as well. Laptops are horrible for your posture.
Sit at a desk if possible, or on a table at least. Don't put it in your lap.
Maintain a fully-extended arms distance from the monitor.
Take breaks, look at something far away for 10s or so every few minutes to help your eyes not be fatigued.
EDIT: I submitted this before looking, but I picked up this mouse for use at my job. It takes a few days to get used to, but I actually like it a lot. It doesn't hurt my wrist.
Source: Full time sysadmin; day job on a computer, free time on a computer.
Intellimouse. All day every day.
How about these kinds of mice?
https://smile.amazon.com/Logitech-Trackman-Marble-Four-Button-Programmable/dp/B001F42MKG/
These are stationery on the desk and you roll the ball to move the mouse pointer.
Have you considered trackballs?
There are also touchpads btw.
Might I suggest getting her a trackball instead? They are very handy, work as good as a mouse, but allow for a different experience, especially for those of us who have trouble with using a mouse. Variations here and here give you an idea of the choices available in form, like specialized keyboards.
Also, they may be coming out with a flip version of a smartphone (Samsung, I believe?) in the near future. Is your mom a Star Trek:TOS fan, by chance?
Also, you might try buying her a cheap tablet, and loading a few games into it, to get her used to using the form factor. (Hey, that's why Microsoft invented Minesweeper and Solitaire, so it's not as dumb an idea as it sounds... and not mine - obviously. "Good minds invent, GREAT minds steal. " heh )
I always go wired for mice, but this Logitech Wireless mouse is just fantastic.
Eitherway, Logitech all the way.
I have the Logitech Proteus G502 and it's equally great.
High School English (none of these are English specific)
This is room dependent as some schools have them, but one key thing that I haven't seen mentioned yet (apologies if I missed it) is a clock. Specifically get an atomic clock that has a highly visible seconds display. I just bought this one by Marathon refurbished. It makes a great deal of difference knowing whether there are 3 seconds or 30 seconds until the bell in my experience.
Another thing I highly recommend is this wireless trackball mouse. It makes a great presentation tool. You can do more with it than a clicker. You can just hold it on your leg if you need to use the mouse function while standing.
Also, get yourself some speakers that sound decent and have a) an easy way switch to headphones b) easily accessible volume control. Headphones are essential because you will undoubtedly be on your prep while the classroom next door decides to mutiny. The external volume control is much easier than having to click around on the computer (you could get a keyboard that has those features). These speakers are reasonably priced and have served me well. Bonus points if you can find an easy way to include bluetooth in the set up (I'm trying to figure out how to do that as my new school blocks spotify). If anyone has any ideas for me, I would appreciate it.
I'm a terribly unorganized person, but for me color coded folders helped me keep things a little more organized. Find durable plastic folders and assign a color for each different period. When you collect an assignment, it goes into the proper folder
Hey, it's cool that you shared the sale, but the
tag=paktinatcom-20part of the link looks a lot like an affiliate link.I don't know what this sub's rules are on those and whether you copy/pasted that on purpose or on accident, but here are two non-affiliate links (and a lot shorter!)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0043T7FXE
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0043T7FXE <-- if you want a portion of the sale to go to a charity of your choosing
In any case it looks like the sale is over with, so probably doesn't matter anyways.
Just look at their store, everything is priced with the same pattern:
Logitech G400 $138.31 other sellers $68.89
Logitech G Driving Force Shifter $229.99 other sellers $55
Logitech MX Sound 2.0 $299.99 other sellers $99.99
Logitech HD Pro Webcam C910 $293.19 other sellers $50.99
Do you still want to argue if this is an algorithm bug or a scummy seller issue?
I have the Logitech G400, and based off of it, I would recommend the Logitech gaming mice very highly, especially for this price.
Yup. There is one user by "Victsing" that is very obviously faking their products. They've probably made millions now. They'll post a product it'll get 30-40 5 star reviews and then it'll snowball from there. Never buy a product from them.
Look at this one. The logo on the mouse is completely irrelevant to the brands.
https://www.amazon.com/VicTsing-Wireless-Portable-Receiver-Adjustable/dp/B013WC0P2A/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1543275503&amp;sr=8-4&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&amp;keywords=mouse+laptop&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=41vHq2XU3FL&amp;ref=plSrch
https://www.amazon.com/Updated-Wireless-Computer-Cordless-Receiver/dp/B07CJ85SNH/ref=mp_s_a_1_17?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1543275503&amp;sr=8-17&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&amp;keywords=mouse+laptop
Also $79 at amazon, but just the black version.
https://www.amazon.ca/Logitech-Master-Wireless-Graphite-910-005131/dp/B071YZJ1G1/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1537297572&sr=8-1&keywords=Logitech+MX+Master+2S+Bluetooth+Mouse+-+Black
As someone who has used trackballs for the better part of seven years, I would highly recommend them for gaming, however, the one OP has I would highly advise against. There's two practical types of trackballs I know of - thumb operated and finger operated. The thumb operated ones like this and this are second to none for FPS games if you can handle the relatively small learning curve and few buttons. The finger operated ones like OP's are truly bizarre to use and take quite some time to become proficent enough to perform the most trivial tasks
Logitech G400
Try a sideways mouse!
Logitech M510
I bought this 4 years ago and it's served me well. Shows no signs of aging. Batteries last about 6 months. Probably longer I just lose track.
I've been using some form of the Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard for a decade now.
My mouse is a Zowie EC2-A, but I also have a Evoluent VerticalMouse 4 for when I'm not gaming and my wrist acts up.
I don't have to use headphones, so I've had the same pair of Altec Lansing computer speakers on my desk for ten years now. Honestly probably closer to 15 years.
Edit: updated with links
Mouse is the Logitech MX Master
Mousepad is probably This
PCPartPicker Part List
Type|Item|Price
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CPU | Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor | $644.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop
CPU Cooler | Corsair - H150i PRO 47.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $199.99 @ Canada Computers
Thermal Compound | Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut 1g 1 g Thermal Paste | $15.89 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard | MSI - MEG Z390 GODLIKE EATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $659.99 @ Memory Express
Memory | Corsair - Dominator Platinum 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory | $615.00 @ Newegg Canada
Storage | Samsung - 970 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $435.50 @ shopRBC
Storage | Samsung - 970 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $435.50 @ shopRBC
Storage | Samsung - 970 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $435.50 @ shopRBC
Storage | Samsung - 860 QVO 4 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $697.64 @ Amazon Canada
Video Card | MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card (2-Way SLI) | $1699.99 @ Memory Express
Video Card | MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card (2-Way SLI) | $1699.99 @ Memory Express
Case | Lian-Li - PC-O11 Dynamic ATX Full Tower Case | $204.99 @ Newegg Canada
Power Supply | EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 1600 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $460.99 @ PC-Canada
Case Fan | Corsair - ML120 PRO RGB (3 pack w/Lighting Node PRO) 47.3 CFM 120 mm Fans | $129.99 @ Amazon Canada
Case Fan | Corsair - ML120 PRO RGB (3 pack w/Lighting Node PRO) 47.3 CFM 120 mm Fans | $129.99 @ Amazon Canada
Case Fan | Corsair - ML120 PRO RGB (3 pack w/Lighting Node PRO) 47.3 CFM 120 mm Fans | $129.99 @ Amazon Canada
Monitor | Asus - ROG SWIFT PG27UQ 27.0" 3840x2160 144 Hz Monitor | $2398.99 @ Powertop
Monitor | LG - 34GK950G-B 34.0" 3440x1440 120 Hz Monitor | $1499.99 @ Newegg Canada
Keyboard | Razer - Huntsman Elite Wired Gaming Keyboard | $259.99 @ PC-Canada
Mouse | Logitech - G502 LIGHTSPEED Wireless Optical Mouse | $199.99 @ Amazon Canada
Headphones | Sennheiser - HD 820 Headphones | $3199.95 @ Amazon Canada
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $16164.84
| Mail-in rebates | -$10.00
| Total | $16154.84
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-18 08:51 EDT-0400 |
And this corsair commander pro
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Fan-Controller-Commander-CL-9011110-WW/dp/B0725HP1J2
Also this mousepad https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Powerplay-Wireless-Charging-Lightspeed/dp/B071WZ56G9
And a mic to if you need it https://www.amazon.com/Samson-G-Track-Pro-Studio-Condenser/dp/B075KL6ZLC/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=Samson+G-track+pro&qid=1553183109&s=gateway&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1
How many times do we need to post this deal, also stop posting referal links...
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B071YZJ1G1/
I thought the MX Master is the newer one, also searching for the UPC you can get this for 52 on Amazon so not really 54% off
see http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Master-Wireless-Mouse-910-004337/dp/B00TZR3WRM/ref=pd_sim_147_2?ie=UTF8&amp;dpID=41anKduYLcL&amp;dpSrc=sims&amp;preST=_AC_UL160_SR145%2C160_&amp;refRID=0Z3HMSP3R918YQRMSDTR
according to wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Logitech_products
the Performance MX released in 2009 and MX master released in 2015
I'm building a new high end pc from the ground up. Should I be taking advantage of any of these sales? I feel like the mouse and power supply are automatic purchases but I'm a newbie so I wanted to see if I can get any help here first. Sorry if this is filling up the discussion post.
SSD
I read that the crucial's aren't good because once you reach 75% capacity it dramatically slows your pc down? Also, don't know if external SSDs are recommended but should I bite on that SanDisk?
Samsung 1TB 860 EVO
Crucial P1 1TB m.2 SSD
SanDisk 1TB Portable External SSD
Power Supply
Corsair RM850x, 850 Watt Gold Certified Fully Modular Power Supply
Cooler
I don't even know if I will need a coouler, and if I want to go liquid cooling route, and I don't care about RGB, but for a high end pc I'm assuming I should buy?
Corsair H115i RGB Platinum AIO Liquid CPU Cooler
Mouse
This seems like the best deal on a mouse no?
Logitech® MX Master 2S Wireless Mouse
RAM
Was actually looking for 32GB RAM, should I pass since if I go AMD mobo route, having to use more than 2 will cause a slowdown right?
Ballistix Elite 16GB Kit (8GBx2) DDR4 3600 MT/s
MX master 2s $54.99 https://www.amazon.ca/Logitech%C2%AE-Master-Wireless-Graphite-910-005131/dp/B071YZJ1G1
Idk man, the picture looks fake to me.
Why would Logitech use the exact same render / photo angle of the original G400, when they haven’t used that style for years.
See - exact same image with just the logo / buttons shopped. https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Optical-Gaming-Mouse-910-002277/dp/B0055QZ216
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Optical-Gaming-High-Precision-910-002277/dp/B0055QZ216/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1373612084&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=logitech+g400 i got this for like 25, probably not worth at its current price but it goes on sale often and is a great mouse.
Seems to be available on amazon for the same price, without a discount: http://www.amazon.com/E-3lue-2500DPI-Optical-Black-Gray-EMS140/dp/B0095ONNTC/ref=pd_sim_pc_2?ie=UTF8&amp;refRID=1XJMDX9MY6KSDJ2W3XA6
Carpal Tunnel can be helped with a vertical mouse.
Try it.
https://www.amazon.com/MIONIX-Multi-Color-Ergonomic-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00HGKQ6VY
Wrong sub? Either way, the Logitech MX Master 2S is the best productivity mouse. It's on sale too.
I really need a new mouse, but they are so hard to find a good one. The fricken "gamer aesthetic" is just embarrassing. It's all hard lines, bright lights, and "sick" logos.
This is my current mouse. I've had it for years. It's actually the second one because I replaced it at some point. I love the scroll wheel unlock thing that lets it spin freely, but little fibers (like dog hair) keeps getting stuck inside the cavity where the laser is. That causes the cursor to randomly stop. In my attempts to clean it out, I think I scratched the lens so now moving the mouse at a constant rate causes the cursor to move a little erratically. I'm forced to slow down my mouse movements and be more deliberate, which makes any game with even a little speed+precision to it difficult.
I ended up ordering this one (hasn't arrived yet as of this post). It doesn't have the scroll wheel thing, but I haven't seen any other mouse with that. This one only has a couple tiny points on the front instead of being absolutely covered in sharp angles anywhere, and it has LEDs, which hopefully can be turned off. It also has DPI-switching on the fly, which I will probably never use.
It seems like all mice are either "for business use and web browsing" or "for gamerz mountain dew mlg420weed", with almost no in-between. As if there's no one that both plays games and does web browsing on the same PC.
Mouse test at work PC
new mouse arrived. first thing i did was open paint and damn that is smoooooth. no clumps at all.
I decided it was time to get my home office in order. The desk needed to be big enough to accommodate my day-job laptop as well as my laptop that I use for my photography business. It also had to be small enough to fit in my master bedroom.
Inspired by the minimalist setup by /u/hazzid (https://www.reddit.com/r/battlestations/comments/4iyjjw/new_house_new_setup_let_me_know_what_you_think_my/), I got to work.
Desk (all Ikea):
Peripherals:
EDIT: changed keyboard and mouse (see updated photos here: https://www.reddit.com/r/battlestations/comments/4rerq3/sometimes_its_the_little_things/
Misc:
That’s about it - let me know if you have any questions!
Mice optical sensors are supposedly accurate to hundreds of DPI. IIRC even the classical Microsoft optical mouse is 800DPI at 125Hz so it should be capable of up to 1/800th of an inch precision and should sample 125 times per second.... ideally Mice with high quality sensors will be capable of thousands of DPI and hundreds to thousands of Hz.
As I said, those ratings are under ideal conditions. For one, the Hz limits how fast you can move the mouse. And more importantly, it depends on the surface you're using the mouse on. For example, my Logitech mouse is supposedly 1000 DPI, but if I use it on anything that's not a cloth mousepad, I get around 600ish and it's very inconsistent.
You can test your mouse by going to this site:
https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/dpianalyzer.html/
Try dragging your mouse one inch on that site and see if it matches your mouse DPI rating.
I still use a white Microsoft optical mouse that my parents bought back in 2003ish
That design is still in use!
i would highly recommend a mouse with a free scrolling wheel toggle. this is the one i have:
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Corded-Mouse-Hyper-Fast-Scroll/dp/B002B3YCQM/
the middle click on it kind of sucks but the free scrolling wheel is more than worth it. i started using this mouse about 6 months ago and i honestly do not know how i lived without that feature.
For 20 dollars more you can get a razer naga.
I use a K800 and M510. Logitech is the only way to go.
I can't imagine anyone making a fake while Logitech is still making them & selling them for only $27 on Amazon US, which is where the majority of the sales are.
The motivation for making a counterfeit would be either if Logitech stops making them i.e. this one which used to go for $60 but is selling for 10x that now that it's been discontinued, or if they were going to make super-cheap knock-offs that sells for $10.
I swear by these. It made all the difference for me. I can only use the thumb ball ones as the others with the middle ball cause tendon strain. I own 3 of them. One for work, one for main PC, and another for the living room. They also make great couch mice as they don't have to move.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-M570-Wireless-Trackball/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1427144162&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=logitech+trackball
New G400 mice are still out there for sale. Two catches:
This (G400). Scientifically proven and endorsed by Ironfungus as the bestest mouse in ever. Perfect shape for any hand, as accurate as anyone would ever need, corded, but without being ungodly expensive.
Take my word for it and buy it now.
Razer Deathadder
Logitech G400
Zowie EC2
These are the mouses that I would purchase today if I needed to replace my current DeathAdder 3.5g (in order of MY preference)
EDIT: Re-arranged the order. And to say that DollarSignBot is OP
I, like you, used to build computers about 10 years ago, right when I was getting out of high school and into college. I just recently built one again after being a mac/xbox user before, and it was like riding a bike again when it came to assembling it.
Some thoughts based on the computer I just built:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Optical-Wired-Mouse-910-001601/dp/B003B4BBFK/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=13489.68153&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=logitech+m100
I've got this one and its pretty good, really light so that helps with FPSing.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Optical-Gaming-High-Precision-910-002277/dp/B0055QZ216/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1348968046&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=g400
Haven't had first hand experience with that one, but I've heard good things about it
I've noticed a few other Logitech G-series mice in here, and personally, I've had the G500 for about 8 months now. It's fantastic, well-built, and I haven't had a single issue with it. I highly recommend it, or any of the other Logitech mice you see mentioned here, really.
I'm not OP, but I hope this helps :)
Edit: provided mousepad image.
The price has dropped about $6 from earlier this month.
http://camelcamelcamel.com/Etekcity%C2%AE-Endurance-Ergonomic-Adjustable-Sensitivity/product/B00KRDU2NU
It is now about the same price as the Anker vertical mouse.
Vertical mice are better for your wrist than normal mice, though you might get sore in some different places when you try it out for the first time.
The downside to them is they tend to be bigger than a normal mouse- they take up more room on your desk and they are a bit of a handicap in certain games.
Shark Gaming Mouse, only $15 on Amazon. It's way better than it should be at that price.
Edit: That link might be bad. This one is better.
Available on Amazon.ca for the same price, too:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00TZR3WRM/
If you have an OTG adapter, you can pair it up with a USB hub so you can use a mouse, keyboard, and external storage media with your device.
One should have came in your box with your S7, and it looks like this (if you don't have it, there are cheaper alternatives)
You can also use a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard, if you don't want a rats nest of cables going to your phone; something like this AmazonBasics keyboard and this mouse
If you want a bigger screen, I would suggest getting a portable HDMI monitor and a Chromecast.
Here's a video from MrMobile about converting a tablet to a laptop, but should have some good tips for you:
https://youtu.be/hpJ0yfMwHRQ
Note: No affiliate links are in this post, and I do recommend to do your own research on buying a BT mouse + keyboard, I took two seconds of research for the ones in this post, you should do more :)
Mionix Naos 7000. It has the amazing grip of the deathadder (better build quality however), a incredible smooth rubber grip coating, and 4 programable buttons. it also comes with the ability to change dpi on the mouse by default and the software is so extensive.
link: http://www.amazon.com/MIONIX-Multi-Color-Ergonomic-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00HGKQ6VY
link about the software: https://www.google.com/search?q=mionix+naos+7000+software%5C&amp;safe=strict&amp;espv=2&amp;biw=1366&amp;bih=643&amp;source=lnms&amp;tbm=isch&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=0ahUKEwjk86fK2JXKAhXL2R4KHXpADRQQ_AUICCgD#imgrc=57AhjOAx98rQxM%3A
https://www.google.com/search?q=mionix+naos+7000+software%5C&amp;safe=strict&amp;espv=2&amp;biw=1366&amp;bih=643&amp;source=lnms&amp;tbm=isch&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=0ahUKEwjk86fK2JXKAhXL2R4KHXpADRQQ_AUICCgD#imgdii=57AhjOAx98rQxM%3A%3B57AhjOAx98rQxM%3A%3BDIqTWaYlYwpb_M%3A&amp;imgrc=57AhjOAx98rQxM%3A
https://www.google.com/search?q=mionix+naos+7000+software%5C&amp;safe=strict&amp;espv=2&amp;biw=1366&amp;bih=643&amp;source=lnms&amp;tbm=isch&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=0ahUKEwjk86fK2JXKAhXL2R4KHXpADRQQ_AUICCgD#imgdii=57AhjOAx98rQxM%3A%3B57AhjOAx98rQxM%3A%3Btfv3Ze4bXvfzcM%3A&amp;imgrc=57AhjOAx98rQxM%3A
https://www.google.com/search?q=mionix+naos+7000+software%5C&amp;safe=strict&amp;espv=2&amp;biw=1366&amp;bih=643&amp;source=lnms&amp;tbm=isch&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=0ahUKEwjk86fK2JXKAhXL2R4KHXpADRQQ_AUICCgD#imgdii=57AhjOAx98rQxM%3A%3B57AhjOAx98rQxM%3A%3Bin7C1KVaeG-UnM%3A&amp;imgrc=57AhjOAx98rQxM%3A
the mionix castor is an all hand grip mouse for any grip palm, claw, etc.
Zowie FK2
I was reading a lot about gaming mice, that pro players used, and this seemed to be really highly regarded as a very accurate, advanced, no-nonsense, no frills, mouse.
I like it. It's simple, it's plain, it doesn't look like a sci-fi alien ship, and it works really, really well. I appreciate simple things that work really well. I've had the Razer Oroboros, Logitech G500, & MX518. This one feels the best.... but it's not like a phenomenal upgrade; it's just a mouse that looks nice, feels nice, and works really well. I think many mice above like $20 are probably pretty great.
Logitech MX Master.
It's basically a toned down gaming mouse. Three re-programable buttons (per application) on the left and probably the best scroll wheel combo ever designed. The main traditional scroll wheel will release the ratchet mechanism if it's spun fast enough, great on long specification documents. Then they added a separate horizontal scroll wheel on the thumb, which is a awesome on excel.
I personally don't really see the point of putting all my common functions on buttons, the Solidworks right-click/drag menu is where I put all of those.
I'm constantly flipping between Matlab/Excel, which is why I prefer a mouse more setup for those applications. Solidworks has a ton of shortcut options that just don't exist in other programs.
Also, 3D mouse is a huge plus for Solidworks. Bit of a learning curve, but you won't regret it. Don't go for one of the crazy wrist support ones though, the basic puck is more than enough.
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I don't like the index finger marbles... I've played in the past with a thumb-ball, and it's actually a marvel for avoiding repetitive stress injury and actually quite an advantage for sniping as well.
If you find a thumb-ball marble, I strongly suggest giving it a try.
Something like this...
Haha. Oh man, that keyboard is great. Got the matching track ball too.
You insinuating that trackballs are bad? I genuinely love (and have used for the past 3 years) my Logitech M570 and plan on getting the Elecom M-XTv2 so I can switch my M570 to my laptop.
If you're not set on that specific trackball, the Logitech m570 one with a thumb ball has a tealish ball. It's not honestly that great though, in my opinion. It's pretty cheap too. But the ball won't fit that Kensington.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0043T7FXE/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1504466566&amp;sr=8-3&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&amp;keywords=trackball+mouse&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=41o8Avio3rL&amp;ref=plSrch
The MX518 is no longer made and can be tough to find (though it is in stock at Amazon right now). Logitech just came out with the G400 to replace it. It's very similar in size, shape, and button layout with an improved sensor. I have a G5 and just recently bought a G500, they're both great. I wrestled between the G400 and the G500, but went with the G500 because it has adjustable sens, adjustable weight, and a laser sensor.
Also, don't forget about a good mouse pad! A good pad will improve your game at least as much as a good mouse. I have a Razer eXactMat (which is now tough to find) and a SteelSeries 4HD. I prefer the Razer, because it's aluminum and two-sided, but the SteelSeries does the job for half the cost.
I recommend the Logitech G400. It's like the G500, but with less bells and whistles, and a better sensor. If you must have programmable buttons, just go with the G500.
A good attempt at the 'best of both worlds' is the newer G400S, but I don't have any personal experience with it. As far as I know, it's just an improved version of the G400, with more features.
Theyre discontinued now so I doubt you would find a new one. They were replaced by the g400 and that got discontinued as well. The next closest would be the g402 hyperion fury or the g403.
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Mionix Naos is always a good choice for someone who wants that kind of shape.
if i had to choose one mouse for use in hand to hand combat situations, this would be it.
Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical
Or you could get a razer naga. I'm probably only going to use 1-9 and map profession mechanics to 1-4, but if wanted to you could pretty much everything to that damn mouse.
Those keybindings look great all things considered, but when the shit hit the fan I know I would make so many mistakes trying to manage that.
Have you tried vertical mouse like this one? I've heard this mouse can help with pain problems.
http://www.amazon.com/Evoluent-VerticalMouse-Regular-Right-VM4R/dp/B00427TAIK
I don't game with one but several co workers use something similar to This. There are a ton of different kinds of vertical mice that may help.
Logitech MX Master 2S for $40 on Amazon
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RSI = Repetitive Stress Injury for those who don't know the acronym.
Look into ergonomics to alleviate or reduce strain. Try to keep your elbows at the same level you surface is at.
I'm not sure what kind of mouse you are using, but consider a vertical mouse like this, or a trackball mouse like this.
I kept the options on the cheaper side so it doesn't suck as much if you can't get accustomed to them.
I'm not much a fan of trackballs, but I have an injured Marine buddy who swears by them and also an old boss of mine doing graphic design said trackballs let him keep using a computer for 20 years after he couldn't use a standard mouse any longer.
I don't have an opinion of vertical mice, but feel free to check out some reviews. Supposedly they keep the ulna and radius in a much more neutral position which allows the stabliizing muscles to work much less hard.
Good luck.
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also because years of PC gaming and tennis ^^also ^^^extreme ^^^^masturbation , i used to have light carpal tunnel syndrome issues on my right wrist. Converting from Mouse to trackball somehow cured that, although i'm still using a regular mouse for gaming & graphics purposes.
M570. I keep one in my backpack and one on my work desk. And grab a clamshell case from Amazon to go with it.
Thanks for all the suggestions and information. I decided to go ahead and order a Logitech M570 because it was the cheapest option that was new and also amazon prime I'll get it here tomorrow. I hear they're not the most reliable but pretty well known here. We'll see how it goes, I'll post a pic of my setup when I receive it.
Just found this one,
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Trackball-Receiver-910-001799/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1291731953&amp;sr=8-1
all the wireless ones i have used in the past were not 2.4GHz and the range sucks.
That would be this guy. My first after school job was working in a photo lab, and the owner was a big fan of using trackball mice for photo editing. It's more precise. I got hooked on it and don't ever use a typical mouse anymore if I can help it. But it sucks for gaming. REALLY sucks.
for me Work= trackball (stopped wrist pain after an 8 hour day completely)
Gaming = regular mouse. I love trackballs and you can use them fine for Civ etc. But they will never beat a mouse in an FPS imho
good place to start is the wireless logitech m570. crazy cheap, wireless signal never cuts out. keeps cord clutter at work to a min. love it
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-M570-Wireless-Trackball/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1420213180&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=trackball
I bought this logitech wireless trackball M570 and it is the most glorious mouse ever.
I had the corded one before (got it used from a friend 7 years ago) and even that was unmatched and the only way I felt it could be improved was to make it wireless.
What are you going to be using this mouse/keyboard for?
While you're at it... grab a good mouse pad, cloth-woven with strong edges and gripping rubber on the bottom.
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Gamers usually opt for a nice mechanical keyboard (sometimes backlit for nighttime gaming sessions). On the other hand, for an HTPC you might like back-lighting and wireless capabilities. Or for normal use... simple, wired efficiency. You can even get solar-powered keyboards now to be more environmentally friendly!
As for mice... the choices are wide open. Getting a 'gaming' mouse is NEVER a bad decision as they are usually manufactured with a higher degree of quality assurance and wonderful ergonomics. Personal tangent: An expensive (but entirely worthwhile) gaming mouse cured my tendonitis.
A stellar Logitech mouse. (G400)
I used one of those for many years before switching over to my current Razer Mamba. Razer mice are very expensive and usually come with a host of fancy lights and extra buttons. It really depends on what you need the mouse for, so I won't clutter your screen with links until we know more!
Logitech G400 , has all you need from a gaming mouse.
You really dont need more , unless you are WOW hardcore player or FPS expert player.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Optical-Gaming-High-Precision-910-002277/dp/B0055QZ216/ref=pd_cp_e_1
Logitech G-400
Razer Deathadder
Steelseries Sensei
All of these are excellent mice, which one you want really comes down to personal preference. I like the deathadder, but I know other people who are more comfortable with the logitech design.
You also might want to take into consider a nice mouse surface if you don't already have one. I can tell you that the steelseries 9HD is pretty awesome if you're into hard pads.
Aparently the price is outrageous now.
Completely and utterly outrageous, might as well pick up a G9x at that price point. I was able to snag my G400 at $25 on sale from amazon a few months back. It is a wonderful mouse for an optical but I wouldn't pay more than $35 for it.
They replaced it with the G400
What sort of accessories are you looking for? Lik ke5pay said, you most likely won't need a sound card. Only invest in a sound card if you are a serious audiophile (And owning Beats headphones doesn't make one an audiophile ><; )
Assuming you game, maybe get a nice mouse?
Answer 1: Artscow.com
Answer 2: E-Blue Mazer
I'm a broke ass college student, and when I built my PC I wanted to divert every possible cent into the hardware as opposed to the peripherals, so I wound up buying this mouse.
Over a year later and it's still running flawlessly. I don't know if that's normal or what, but for $16 it's not too big of a risk.
http://www.amazon.com/E-3lue-EMS109BK-Precision-Control-Counterfeit/dp/B005CPGHAA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1377752242&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=gaming+mouse
http://www.amazon.com/Mazer-2500DPI-Optical-Black-Gray-EMS140/dp/B0095ONNTC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1377752242&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=gaming+mouse
Mazer II is the one i've got, it's the wireless one: http://www.amazon.com/E-3lue-E-Blue-2-4GHz-Wireless-Optical/dp/B00DPC015E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1415156517&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=e+blue+mazer
Here's one of the wired versions for $17
http://www.amazon.com/White-E-3lue-E-Blue-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00897SQKW/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1415156517&amp;sr=8-8&amp;keywords=e+blue+mazer
Edit: I wish they had a white wireless one...i'd buy it just because it's awesome. lol
No, it's a mouse that lets your hand rest like a handshake on it, rather than turned and pressed down flat. Here is the one I have, you can get it on sale for ~$10 and it's much more comfortable than a standard mouse for anyone with wrist issues, the only downside is your accuracy in FPSs will suffer.
I don't have a response to your question unfortunately, but as a side note I'd recommend you try a "vertical mouse" for your computer usage. In my experience it's a bit more comfortable for the wrist than the typical mouse.
Here's an example one on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FPAVUHC/
I've got serious issues with my wrists too..
I started using an ergonomic mouse at home and at work and within a few months all of my wrist pain went away.
I can't really play FPS games with it, but for MMOs and stuff, it works great..
I'll post a link below, I just use a $15 wired one, but it works great.. I'd highly recommend it.
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Ergonomic-Optical-Vertical-Buttons/dp/B00FPAVUHC/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=ergonomic+mouse&amp;qid=1563988596&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-6
You could try a vertical mouse. It reduces stress on your forearms and tendons since your hand is in a more natural position.
You can find some cheap ones online. I would start with that and if it helps I'd look for a more ergonomic one. That is, if you can use a hand mouse at all.
Also, does alcohol help/hurt in any way?
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Something like this
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Ergonomic-Optical-Vertical-Buttons/dp/B00FPAVUHC
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Ergonomic-Optical-Vertical-Buttons/dp/B00FPAVUHC/
I'm pretty sure I have this:
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Ergonomic-Optical-Vertical-Buttons/dp/B00FPAVUHC
Cheap enough to give it a try. It's worked great for me. Every once and a while it will move to the corner on its own, and not all the buttons work on macos, so not a great functioning mouse overall, but as I said it's greatly helped my wrist pain.
And with the purchase I just made, I'm probably done for Prime Day.
This year's damages:
No PrimeDay-specific discounts, just ordered these as well:
Additional Promotional Credit Used: $15
Total tax across multiple orders = $9.73
Final Cost: $126.89
All items are expected to arrive tomorrow via free one day shipping!
I'm definitely sad that Taotronic Boom X was listed to have a lightning deal, but was sold-out half an hour before it even went live. I've been keeping an eye on that specific model for like two weeks.
It might be carpal tunnel. If it is, a mouse that corrects your hand posture like this might help:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FPAVUHC/ref=mp_s_a_1_3/186-6883414-7666266?qid=1466223522&amp;sr=8-3&amp;pi=SY200_QL40&amp;keywords=Anker+mouse&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=31iZgk28guL&amp;ref=plSrch
Anker Ergonomic Optical USB Wired Vertical Mouse
I picked up the Sharkk gaming mouse as my first gaming mouse. It has up to 3500 dpi, changing led lights (preset colors), adjustable weights, and a few extra buttons all for $14. I haven't used a more expensive mouse but it is definitely more accurate than my old wireless Logitech mouse. Plus I personally really enjoy the extra buttons. I say it's worth checking out!
http://www.amazon.com/SHARKK%C2%AE-Programmable-Cartridges-Precision-Adjutsable/dp/B00G5T1Z5Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1408120156&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=sharkk+gaming+mouse
http://www.amazon.com/SHARKK%C2%AE-Programmable-Cartridges-Precision-Adjutsable/dp/B00G5T1Z5Y
Got this mouse for 14.00 bucks, mostly the same features.
I haven't used this mouse, but there is something to be said about cheap gaming mice. I use this mouse every day and honestly it has everything I could ask for in a mouse.
I second the Mionix Naos. It seems to have tons of customization and good software and a very ergonomic design. Plus it's on sale http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00HGKQ6VY/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1406858719&amp;sr=8-1
I personally have the Steel series rival after having the DA 2013 and couldn't be happier
$59.99 and literally one of the best mice you can buy. It has no flashy shit like LEDs or tons of buttons but it has the best sensor out there and that's really all that counts.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LZVNWIA/?tag=pcpapi-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IRHE892/?tag=pcpapi-20
https://www.amazon.com/Zowie-Ambidextrous-Optical-Gaming-FK1/dp/B00LHRTO5W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1483055408&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=zowie+fk1
(This is the mouse I'm currently using. Any Zowie mouse is good, the difference is just the shape. The FK and ZA series are ambidextrous, the EC series is for righthanded users only - the different numbers are different sizes, smaller number = bigger mouse).
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/steelseries-rival-300-optical-gaming-mouse-black-gray-white/3317094.p?skuId=3317094&amp;ref=199&amp;loc=8BacdVP0GFs&amp;acampID=1&amp;siteID=8BacdVP0GFs-nnHIvjSFeGX8amzHnP0M3Q
The MX Master is 69$ right now and it's debatably the best work/productivity mouse. I would check it out, everyone I know who has one loves it.
Edit: US Link https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TZR3WRM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_ep_dp_NfgBybSR9E6HY
Amazon has a few cheap mice that work really well and have more features than a lot of really expensive mice.
I bought this mouse for about 10 bucks after my expensive Bluetooth mouse broke. Over a year and a half later, it is still kicking ass. It's ugly as hell, but the only thing I would trade it for is a Logitech MX Master
I only use a wireless mouse when either hard to get behind the computer to plug my mouse in or it's a travel thing. I'm using a cheap $8 tecknet that'll last me 1.5 years apparently running on a single triple A battery. It turns itself off after I stop using it for a few minutes, but it's whatever.
If you're really looking for a high end wireless mouse a lot of techguru's on youtube utilize the MX Master by Logitech.
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Logitech MX Master (that I use) is $70 on Amazon - https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Master-Wireless-Mouse-Computer/dp/B00TZR3WRM
But those kind of mice used to be extra expensive ~8 years ago.
It's been like $75 on Amazon for quite a while.
Does anyone know of any that work with iOS? I use a mac and tried this one and it does not work.
I have bettertouchtool and it works great but I can't find any hardware that will pair with it... Anyone with experience here?
EDIT - I currently have a basic non-bluetooth mouse with 2 scroll buttons on side (like this ) and i am able to program each side button (i have them as good and hard) it works alright, but id like something with more buttons and that is bluetooth.
Bought a Razer Imperator to replace a Logitech mx518, and it lasted all of 13 months. Contacted Razer support, and they told me it was out of Warranty, and they couldn't do anything about it.
Bought a new Logitech mouse for the desktop, and a Vic Tsing wireless mouse for my laptop. To be honest, that wireless mouse is the best mouse I've ever used for the money, and actually prefer it over the Logitech for MMORPG's. It's just so smooth on my desk, and feels great in my hand.
Links to all products pictured:
Mouse: G502 Lightspeed
Mousepad: Powerplay
Mousemat: G840
Keyboard: G910 v2
Palm rest: (Because this wasn't included with the v2)
Speakers: G560
Headset: G533
Microphone: ModMic Wireless
Monitor: MP Zero-G 35" UWQHD
Secondary display: LG 29" UW
Tertiary display: ViewSonic 24" FHD
Charging cables: NetDot Magnetic Micro-USB
Phone dock: Wireless charging stand
Assistant vessel: Google Home Mini
I am not stupid enough to buy a mighty mouse. I use the best mouse in the world. A Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical.
It all comes down to personal preference, really.
I'm lucky that my tastes align with cheaper Microsoft mouses, namely the Wheel Mouse Optical and Intellimouse optical. I used high DPI Razer and Logitech mice in the past, and I found that I do not benefit from greater than 400 dpi as 400dpi yields comfortable desktop and game sensitivities without losing any meaningful precision (in fact, lower DPI nets you greater accuracy in some older games by avoiding a common negative acceleration issue). You can whip these mouses around as fast as you want and they won't skip. The shape of these Micosoft mouses feel really great to me; they're also a lot lighter than Razer and Logitech offerings which I think is pretty important.
Point is, there's an expansive list of mouses that will do well by you, offerings from Razer and Logitech included. It's up to you to find the one that you're most comfortable with.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4RE2U57192
also its 50$ usd on amazon https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-IntelliMouse-Explorer-Optical-Mouse/dp/B000GOUE7O
MS Intelli 3.0 is a "generic" mouse that's also great for gaming. If your hands are small-medium sized you won't fit this though.
Logitech MX518 -- though I don't think that's the best price to get it at.
Microsoft Intellimouse 3.0 -- not sure about that price either.
While I was playing competitive Counter-Strike 1.6, those mice were the ones to choose. I'm not so sure about the newer ones, but I know these have beat the test of time and come out on top as elite mice.
thanks for the testicle
Are you talking about this mouse?
Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 ... the best mouse ever.
Yep, I love trackballs. There are a lot of different options for doing everything.
The one I currently have in my office is the Kensington Expert
http://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Expert-Optical-Trackball-64325/dp/B00009KH63
Using their software, you can remap the buttons, and even the button combos (e.g. hitting the top two buttons copies, bottom two pastes) and you can make this application-specific.
It has a scrollwheel, and once I got used to its design, it made me a ton more productive.
As a more entry-level option, maybe go with:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-000806-Trackman-Marble-Mouse/dp/B001F42MKG/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1324495928&amp;sr=1-2
You can use software add-ons to make the trackball act as a 2d scroll wheel when you hold down a button or a key, and it also has four buttons.
Both of these mice are ambidextrous, which a lot of thumb-operated trackballs aren't. I like having the ability to switch up my mousing hand occasionally since it lets me load distribute, and keeps my hand/writs problems from flaring up.
OKAY! So, I think this is pretty much everything that makes my setup what it is. If you see anything I’ve missed and are curious about, or want more details as to how everything came together, lemme know!
(Didn’t trust USB 3.0 with my wireless accessories, and I love the individual button on control on this guy. Plus, you can’t beat that price!)
Materials and Tools Used, Step By Step:
Base pieces:
3/4” pine (ply for base, solid for wrist rests)
Table saw for cutting large pieces
Jig saw for details and wrist rests
Molding wrist rests/rounding edges:
Belt sander (Turned upside down, ‘cause I’m not super strong lol)
Wrist Rest Adhesion:
Wood clamps
Wood glue
Attaching Hardware:
Drill with 3/16 and 5/16” bits for cam lock screws
1/4” Drill bit for threaded inserts
1/4” Threaded Inserts
5/8” Forstner bit for cam locks - $8.97
1/4” Dowel Centers for lining everything up - $5.83/4-pack
12mm Cam locks/screws
Finishing product:
Detail sander, 150-grit
Hand Sanding, 220-grit
3x Minwax Deep Mahogany Stain
2x Minwax Fast Drying Gloss Polyurethane
Logitech Trackman Marble Adaption:
Blade for scoring trackball and cutting cover
Hacksaw the tail off
Sand down with 220-grit
Cardboard (from inside of a binder cover) to create cover piece
Oil Rubbed Bronze Metallic Spray paint to sorta match
The other two things you’ll see in the pics are more specific to my transcription job, but in case there’s any interest:
I was going to do the sexy just laptop set up that you guys have here but I noticed it was uncomfortable and my neck started hurting so I got this which adds a little bulk but can still one bag.
Pros
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Edit: to add links
monitor clip - after like 4 months it gets loose though. Sometimes it slips throughout the sa
MountEra Side Mount Clip for... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LQT1RBO?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Monitor
ASUS ZenScreen MB16AC 15.6" Full... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071S84ZW7?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Travel ergonic keyboard I really like a lot
Goldtouch GTP-0044 Go!2 Mobile... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DT73FVM?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Mouse (you have to download a 3rd party app to enable page scrolling but once you do it's great)
Logitech Trackman Marble... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001F42MKG?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Roost laptop stand. I know there's a cheaper knockoff that's heavier though and may do better in not having the tilt occur when the additional monitor is added.
Roost Laptop Stand – Adjustable... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C9KG8IG?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
The basic logitech trackman marble can be a good start. It's low cost and well built. It's only downside is the lack of scrollwheel.
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Trackman-Marble-Four-Button-Programmable/dp/B001F42MKG
Yup. It's a little hard to see in the pictures, but the whole button surface tilts significantly to the right, which tweaks my wrist just enough to make it very, very sore after a few days of use. This from someone who's spent lots and lots of time in front of a computers for over a decade and never suffered anything even close to real ergonomic pain before.
It's a real pity too, because I love the mouse otherwise. Cheap, looks ok, and it has Logitech's "Hyper Fast" scrolling, basically free-wheeling which is fantastic for certain programs or web pages. Doesn't work well for other things, but you can toggle it on and off. But this issue means it's useless to me now. $30 down the drain.
A pretty standard, low-cost office mouse with that feature would be the M500. Amazon has 'em for $25
Fancy gaming mouse on sale for $15; https://www.amazon.com/Pictek-Precision-Ergonomic-Optical-Computer/dp/B01IURMTIK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1480090805&amp;sr=8-2-spons&amp;keywords=wired+mouse&amp;psc=1
Amazon's 7 dollar simple mouse; https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-3-Button-Wired-Mouse-Black/dp/B005EJH6RW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1480090805&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=wired+mouse
Decent Logitech mouse on sale for $17; https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001204-Corded-Mouse-M500/dp/B002B3YCQM/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1480090805&amp;sr=8-6&amp;keywords=wired+mouse
Decent Microsoft business mouse; https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Comfort-Mouse-4500-Business/dp/B00902BFGC/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1480090805&amp;sr=8-10&amp;keywords=wired%2Bmouse&amp;th=1
edit; Honestly, if you're looking for something to last years, you'll need to spend a little more money
I've had this mouse for years, like 5 or 6 by now. I've used it in every game that uses number keys, and it has served me very will in all of them. I can't imagine ever pressing 1-5 on a key board because of this ridiculously convenient bad-boy. Solid mouse that will last you a long while without needing to be replaced and is extremely useful for gaming. Might be a bit pricey, but man is it worth it. Plus you get to have some sick looking gaming gear.
I used the Logitech M510 for a couple years, it performed very well for its price and the battery lasts forever. Solid, nice shape to it. Looking at it now, it's #1 in computer mice on Amazon.
$25, can't recommend more.
It looks like an ok mouse. I've been quite fond of the Logitech m510 https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Large-Mouse-Black/dp/B003NR57BY/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1491578105&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=M510
This is the mouse I have, got it mostly because I wanted a bigger mouse. It's comfortable to use and fairly cheap.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001822-M510-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B003NR57BY
My mouse uses a Logitech Unifying receiver.
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-M510-Wireless-Computer-Mouse/dp/B003NR57BY
Definitely not an expensive mouse.
Get a mousepad. Doesn't have to be fancy, just something that the laser can't reflect off of. I'm using a wireless Logitech M510 on a 2009 MBP and I know the "shakiness" you're talking about. I think the main problem is the laser bouncing off of your desk surface, especially if it's wood or anything glossy like that.
Really though, try it with a mousepad. You can go cheap. I prefer one's with cute pictures on them.
Yes, that is my mousepad.
Edit: UCRsSon suggested changing the batteries, which can help if they are close to dying. I've noticed significantly better performance with fresh batteries over drained ones.
Agreed. Got this bad boy when it was on sale at Best Buy for about 20 bucks (it used to cost $40). Been using it for 3 years without a problem.
Just figured I'd post this as an alternative:
Ergonomic Vertical Mouse - inexpensive | midrange
| expensive
If you are interested in getting a mouse, I saw these last time i was shopping for a mouse and thought they were a very cool idea. I don't have any experience with them, so I can't say if they help, but they exist.
No hate for the controller though. I played on a touchpad for a very long time, so I understand the hate you might get. Since early in the beta, I've thought about trying to play Smite on a controller. Glad to hear they finally made it possible.
maybe a new mouse?
trackball:
https://www.kensington.com/nl/be/4493/k72327eu/slimblade-trackball
vertical mouse:
https://www.amazon.com/Evoluent-VerticalMouse-Regular-Right-model/dp/B00427TAIK
and this is nice software i found that reminds you take breaks:
http://www.workrave.org/
so here are a few ergo mouse options. Along with that an mx red keyboard with orings will have about 2mm travel at about 55g of force to actuate. Couple these with proper wrist support and desk height, you should feel a lot better gaming and playing.
An ergo dox may even be better than a standard keyboard for you but a pricey endeavor.
Hope you get to share your passion with your daughter in the years to come!
Get a vertical mouse, this is my preference: Evoluent Veritcal Mouse
Also get an ergonomic keyboard. The flat ones are killer.
Lastly, make sure you aren't using arm rests on your chair. Try to keep your elbows close to your side and your forearms straight away from your body. Elbows at a 90* angle. Looking straight ahead, you should see the top third of your screen(s).
Keeping proper posture is important!
Look into trackball mice. I started having symptoms of carpal tunnel syndrome and tried about 7 different mice. They ranged from vertical mice to trackball. I did try out the anker vertical, and found out it wasn’t helping with all of my strain issues. I ended up settling on a traditional trackball mouse. It’s admittingly a huge learning curve. It does take a good amount of time to get used to it, and efficient enough where you’re not “thinking” to not move the mouse around (you use trackball mice in the stationary position).
I started with the Logitech M570 and used that with a Wrist Rest from my second semester of grad school until I finished (this spring). I would still have some strain, and then the Logitech MX Ergo came out and I bought it. Instantly hooked. It’s best of both worlds with trackball and vertical. Little tidbit, BestBuy sells an exclusive variant that includes an extra piece that increases the mouse’s angle. I recommend getting that one as I can’t live without it. It’s called the MX Ergo Plus.
Like you, I was having searing pains in my wrist and up my forearm after a long day of using Rhino. Both 2D drafting, and 3D modeling. Switching to an ergonomic mouse, for me a trackball and “vertical-esque” model has saved me!
Good luck, and if you have any questions just let me know!
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Most professional artist I've seen uses a trackball for fine-tune control. Like the logitech 570
But if you're looking for a standard mouse, I'd suggest the G500s and really load up the optional weight so you get better control. link
Logitech TrackMan Marble Wheel- Fast as the devil. FAAAAST. It's ancient and works.
This is the modern version.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-M570-Wireless-Trackball/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=pd_sim_e_1?ie=UTF8&amp;refRID=1Y1KAH9D6FC3R6NWZ0G2
The optical ones are awesome.
For the price, give it a shot, if it's not your thing, give it to a friend... either way, someone is never going back to a mouse, ever.
I'm about twice as fast as a mouse, and once you get used to it, you'll never go back to a mouse, strictly because you'll be much more agile with it.
It doesn't look agile. It really doesn't. But then again, there is a difference between a Huffy and a Specialized road bike. This is actually faster, but it does take a week.
Accuracy does not take a hit.
This is exactly why I went with another OEM for my 3rd party remote for my Shield Pro.
Was asking them to release an upgrade to their M570 mouse with a speed wheel for literally years & what do they do when they finally release one?
They neuter it with a non-removable battery & make it's only power solution being tethered to an umbilical cord! Not to mention they taxed the 💩 out of the price point on this new model!!
So done with them. Time to find a new, reliable OEM for future keyboard & mice purchases.
I got the M570 from a friend, and I am loving it. Mine is a returned mouse with the ball a little loose, but even so, I still prefer it to touchpad or regular mouse. I've yet to have pain from carpal tunnel, and I love that I can rest my wrist however and wherever I want(especially in bed in the morning, where there is no even spot for a traditional mouse). I think it would be well-worth the investment.
i use a logitech trackball thats has exactly what your talking about
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Trackball-Computer-Mouse/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1469750416&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=logitech+track
I don't have a game suggestion but maybe a trackball instead of a mouse would help? I use this one, it helped with a repetitive stress injury I got (and now I just prefer it) but I don't know if it's good for carpal tunnel.
+1 I use one of these at work, and it makes using the mouse a lot easier IMO.
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Edit: I use this particular one here.
Oddly some of the most comfortable designs are also out of production now, like the two ianisthewalrus suggests - if you can find them at a sane price then awesome, but they can also be pretty extortionate these days.
That being the case I'd suggest trying out something like the Logitech m570 (which is a thumb ball - ie the ball's operated by your thumb), or the Kensington Orbit Trackball Scroll (which is a finger ball); both are under $30 and either would be a decent device to trial.
In my opinion this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-D66-00029-Wheel-Mouse-Optical/dp/B00006B7HB/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_2?ie=UTF8&amp;refRID=0CS2MCCPRENPZ5ZCEY06
Might seem old and ghetto but it has a flawless sensor and it's pretty good ergonomically
I believe this mouse has won more FPS tournaments than any other.
really? u can't even buy it here?
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-B75-00113-Intellimouse-Explorer-3-0/dp/B000GOUE7O
Idk if its country limited but its worth a try right? : P
this and the MS Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 are what I've used for the past 14 years, with an average lifespan of 5 years/mouse. They're equivalently awesome and affordable.. I really don't see a reason to use a different one unless you want to go cordless (real gamers don't go cordless though)
I tried a g9. hated it and went back to Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 Probably the best mouse I have ever used.
You might want to look into a trackball mouse. I used a Logitech Trackman Marble Mouse for a while, then moved to a Kensington (wired) Expert Trackball Mouse.
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Trackman-Marble-Four-Button-Programmable/dp/B001F42MKG
https://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Expert-Wireless-Trackball-K72359WW/dp/B00009KH63
There's even more ergonomic stuff you can do, but I was on a budget and only had minor wrist issues.
So anyone here use a trackball on their PCs? How is it? I'm thinking of switching to one since my new desk is pretty terrible for mice. I'm thinking of getting this.
A friend of mine who plays Heavy as his main uses this
Depending how much space you have, you could buy a small monitor, a tiny keyboard and trackball to have a troubleshooting console inside your computer.
I use a trackball now for all gaming and I swear by it, primarily because it completely eliminates carpal tunnel issues.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-000806-Trackman-Marble-Mouse/dp/B001F42MKG
This one by Logitech in particular is exceptional. I have had mine for years. It is also completely symmetrical so it would be perfect for an ambidextrous user.
You can get a Logitech M570 pretty much anywhere they sell mice, including stores like Target or Staples. Amazon has refurbished ones for about $20. That's a "thumb-style" which means you'll be using your thumb to drive the ball. There are also finger-styles like the Logitech Trackman or the Kensington Orbit. I'm currently using and liking a Kensington Slimblade but at $85 it might be a bit steep for someone who might not even like this particular input method.
Stop by /r/Trackballs for more detailed suggestions and discussion. There are dozens of us!
I definitely like the idea of a trackball but there's a decent chance I'd hate it immediately. I've had this thing in my Amazon "maybe" list for a long time but haven't yet convinced myself to drop $23 to try it:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B001F42MKG/
Bummed to hear about the patent issue. It's super lame that you can't get a normal-looking wired trackball -- it's either wireless or this alien-looking thing. Do you have any experience with ones shaped like this that you control with your fingers rather than your thumb?
My favourite mouse used to be the Logitech M500, but Staples had the G500s on clearance, so I switched (wanted on-the-fly DPI settings)
M500 @ Amazon
G500s @ Amazon
Mice
I can't personally recommend any Razer mice though I'm using a Razer Tron mouse at the moment. Every Razer mouse I've had, has had issues with the left mouse button randomly double clicking.
Keyboards, you can get away with a lot in the keyboard department as they all do pretty much the same thing. Here's a couple of options.
EDIT: I accidentally the whole description of a product.
No, I'm not asking for defaults at all. I'm asking to make sure that if we want to bind side thumb buttons to something, or make right click forward, it's an option to do so. I have had several games recently that won't even allow rebinding right click to forward, requiring it to be a key instead.
5 button mice are fairly common nowadays. My last 2 PC's came with them - and they're just $25 Microsoft Office mice with two side thumb buttons. So no, not everyone has them but I want the game to support them, right out of the box.
EDIT: Slowness, if you haven't tried using a 5 or more button mouse, I highly recommend it. It opens up quite a few options when gaming. This is one I've used a lot and it's $18 on Amazon - Logitech M-U0007. Cheap and works well for those on a budget even though it's not a true gaming mouse.
Oops! MX series was an OLD gaming line. Got mixed up. Maybe look into something like this? https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001204-Corded-Mouse-M500/dp/B002B3YCQM/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1488310329&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=m500 I used one for a few years even for pretty heavy gaming, and I personally really liked the shape.
[check here maybe?] (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=lp_402052011_nr_p_36_5?bbn=402052011&amp;qid=1417085608&amp;rh=n%3A468642%2Cn%3A%2111846801%2Cn%3A229575%2Cn%3A318813011%2Cn%3A402052011&amp;rnid=386453011&amp;low-price=&amp;high-price=12&amp;x=10&amp;y=15)
anddd
[This is my favorite, a friend of mine loves it]
(http://www.amazon.com/Etekcity%C2%AE-S200-Precision-Ergonomic-Symmetrical/dp/B00IAM78WS/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1417085618&amp;sr=1-2)
It really depends on what you want, i cant say i know of any static less mouse's but i love ergonomic ones and i bought a logitech one on sale for $30ish. This [here] (http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001204-Corded-Mouse-M500/dp/B002B3YCQM/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1417086004&amp;sr=1-10&amp;keywords=logitech+mouse) and while its very comfy, its a bit cramped and small for my large girl hands. also, if you have pets (like cats) cat hair gets stuck in the open hole where the laser is at the bottom. Highly annoying. Id go for one with a closed laser system (i've forgotten the technical term)
this is my current mouse, and it can do that. had this one for 3 years, but i moved to a configuration where my wifi router was right next to the USB receiver, sooo the wireless one got really jumpy.
Logitech CORDED MOUSE M500, is EUR 47.10 on Amazon.
It's got two buttons on top, a wheel that can go up/down and left/right and be clicked as middle mouse button, and also two buttons on the left side near where the thumb rests. There's also another button in top center but I don't think it is programmable, it just controls mouse wheel scroll locking. I've never noticed any issues with sensor accuracy.
I really really like my Logitech M510. Logitech mice are really nice. You can get a wireless version, as well.
EDIT: It seems to be $32 now... I got it on sale for $25. This one is nice as well, with additional buttons
This is a VERY nice one with 9 programmable buttons for a bit under $30
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001204-Corded-Mouse-M500/dp/B002B3YCQM/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1449515182&amp;sr=8-15&amp;keywords=logitech+mouse
On Amazon it costs 114 dollars..
http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Laser-Gaming-Mouse-RZ01-00280100-R3/dp/B002MPPRPO
http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Laser-Gaming-Mouse-RZ01-00280100-R3/dp/B002MPPRPO/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1324456414&amp;sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/WolfKing-DK2388UBK-Warrior-Gaming-Keypad/dp/B000IMZHL2/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1324456396&amp;sr=1-1
I use this and it is wonderful. Select units in your RTS, change weapons in your FRS, use spells in your MMORPG all at the touch of your thumb.
In terms you should relate with:
A/D + Right Mouse Button = Left joystick on your console controller
A/D w/no mouse = Right joystick on your console controller
When playing shooters on your console, you strafe constantly. The same applies here. You should be strafing by holding the right mouse button.
I use a Razer Naga and I only use my left hand for WSAD, shift, CTRL, and Space. All abilities and dodge are controlled by my mouse. It takes a lot to get used to it, but it is worth it.
http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Laser-Gaming-Mouse-RZ01-00280100-R3/dp/B002MPPRPO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1343764904&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=naga
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Add https://www.amazon.com/HP-Wired-Keyboard-K1500-Black/dp/B00E4TOWR0 and https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001822-M510-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B003NR57BY for mouse and keyboard.
To the build: It has a good cpu, enough ram, HDD and SSD., I added a proper display and Windows 10, the case looks nice and has some blue accents. I'm not sure about the gpu: It is possible she will need a stronger one, but that does not fit into the budget. Something to keep in mind and maybe upgrade later.
Logitech M510 Wireless Computer Mouse - Comfortable Shape with USB Unifying Receiver, with Back/Forward Buttons and Side-to-Side Scrolling, Dark Gray https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003NR57BY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_spmlDbJGZ7840
I'm a person of more simple tastes, plus Logitech has been stepping up their quality game so honestly this mouse is in my opinion the best bang for buck
This guy knows what's going on. I use the Logitech M510 for simplicity.
WASD to move, center wheel button for skill 1, skill 2 and 3 are default keys, the side forward/back keys on the mouse for skill 4 and 5, and V for weapon swapping. Works out really well for me.
Here is my custom key setup. This pretty much relies on having a mouse with at lease two extra buttons. I use the Logitec M510. It's a cheap mouse but well built. Here's the link. http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001822-M510-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B003NR57BY
The first thing you need to do is unbind "G" for grenade. My G does nothing at this point for one reason-- I accidentally hit it too often when switching fire modes. There is nothing worse than being in a fire fight and tossing a grenade at your feet. I bind grenade to "H" because it's still close enough to be quickly accessible.
Alright, let's get started on the rest.
Most of my keys are set to ARMA 2 style.
Shift- hold to walk. Double tap to toggle walk. Unbind w+s for toggle walk.
Unbind crtl+left click to change optics. "/" works just fine. This allows you to hold down crtl, aim, and change stances much more fluidly.
Mouse button back- change view (3rd or 1st person)
Mouse button forward- sprint.
crtl+g- switch grenades types. This is to ensure I don't accidentally depress crtl and throw a grenade, and that my finger doesn't slip off F and change the grenade type.
Unbind everything that uses space. You can use this button for either TS PTT or Side Chat.
Actually, anything by logitec. But I love my M510 mouse
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001822-M510-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B003NR57BY?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;redirect=true&amp;ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00
This is what I use when I'm using my laptop. It's a great mouse, cheap, has 2 buttons on it, and it such a nice size. If you've ever used one of Logitech's dedicated gaming mouses, this is about the same size. It fits well in hands and is such a good choice for the price!
Yeah those reviews sounded kind of bad, and there seemed to be a lot of them. This one looks good for under $40, plus it has laser tracking.
This is the only Logitech wireless mouse I've ever owned, and that one worked great. The main reason I got it was for the rechargeable battery, but it's double your price point and doesn't look much different from the first one I linked.
I really like the looks of the Logitech M510.
You could also consider the Logitech performance MX. It's the big brother of my beloved VX revolution. It's nice and big, shouldn't feel cheap, will last a long time on the rechargeable batteries, and has just the right amount of buttons. You'll wonder how you ever lived without the super handy back/forward buttons for your thumb.
Check out the M510. It's a highly reviewed mouse in Amazon.
Logitech m510's. Because they're cheap, and they get the job done. While Over 9000 DPI is great, I don't play at my local IMAX theater.
Logitech M510 (24.99) - Uses AA, pretty decent battery life and Unifying receiver.
I dont think a $20 mouse will last you 4-5 years but heres a Logitech wireless mouse for $20
Amazon says it 2" X 1" X 1" - that's small. I have had great luck with Logitech wireless - was using an M510, now on a Logitech m602 gaming mouse, not quite as comfortable as the M510, but both are bigger mice than the Kensington you linked. I have big hands and M510 probably better if you don't want a gaming mouse.
Logitech M510 -
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001822-M510-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B003NR57BY/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1450506153&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=logitech+m510
M602 -
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Gaming-Mouse-Battery/dp/B00E4MQODC/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1450506422&amp;sr=1-1-catcorr&amp;keywords=logitech+m602
I just bought this one, and it's great.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001822-M510-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B003NR57BY/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1425321406&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=logitech+m510
Thing is, there are some good mice out there that don't require replacing batteries so often that it's an issue.
In fact I've been using this mouse since last July and haven't changed the batteries even once (so far).
Am I the only one with a mouse with buttons where your thumb would rest that allows you to go 'back' and 'forward' on a page? It just seems a waste of 2 good seconds to let go of the mouse to hit backspace or reach over with your left (if you have the mouse on the right) to hit back space.
This
For what purpose? Any logitech mouse will last more than 5 years, with the battery needing replacement about once a year. This is a very good wireless mouse for general use: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003NR57BY?cache=ae64d26250b9de3fbb18b5b885fd87fe&amp;pi=SX200_QL40&amp;qid=1404447945&amp;sr=8-1#ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_1
That's just the mouse I'm using, I got it 5 years ago for $40 or something. It might not be made anymore and the price is kind of erroneous. This mouse would work just fine: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003NR57BY/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1480414426&amp;sr=8-1&amp;pi=SX200_QL40&amp;keywords=logitech+wireless+mouse&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=41%2BcyeIQuSL&amp;ref=plSrch
The mouse is essential for use with side loaded apps that are not meant for android TV (they are regular Android phone apps). These apps are meant for a touch screen, which the mouse mimics perfectly. Without a mouse you cannot navigate the apps at all on Android TV. You can use the mouse for the entire Android TV system, except text entry needs to be done with the remote or a keyboard.
I mostly use the remote, I only really use the mouse for a few side loaded apps - chrome, terrarium, VPN client, etc
I really love my Logitech m510 wireless. Mouse has two thumb buttons & wheel has center & tilt buttons and - I use SolidWorks and Excel most of the time I'm on my computer with X-Mouse Button Control (free) I get some very intuitive shortcuts specified for whichever program I'm currently in (SW-normal to & isometric on the thumbs, rotate 90 on the tilt buttons; Excel-tab shit forward/back on the thumbs, page left/right on the wheel tilts). If you watch amazon (via camelcamelcamel) you can get it for $16 (currently $20 in black), but full price is $40. I also appreciate that the receiver is really tiny and doesn't get in the way when you throw your laptop in your bag (storage compartment in the battery compartment if you want to totally remove it without losing it), but my real hesitation was battery life which turned out to be amazing (13+ months of daily use thus far and I either haven't changed them at all or once, I honestly don't remember doing it, but I might have forgotten). Lastly, I had tried smaller travel mouses, but I'd much rather carry a slightly larger wireless without needing extra batteries (2xAA) or a charging cable and the ergonomics make my hand happy, so there's that.
Eu ti-as recomanda scaunul asta pe care l-am folosit foarte mult timp, considera-l o investitie in sanatate. Daca alegi altceva, alge ceva cu cotiere reglabile macar pe inaltime, e foarte important sa poti sa tii coatele sprijinite la o inaltime adecvata. Scaunul trebuie neaparat probat inainte, indiferent cat de scump e s-ar putea sa nu fie bun pentru tine. Eu am renuntat la el in favoarea unui scaun vechi din lemn masiv care pur si simplu se muleaza pe mine si pe care am dat vreo 200 de lei.
Biroul nu prea conteaza cat timp se poate regla pe inaltime, au la ikea niste variante de birou reglabil chiar acceptabile.
Monitor as recomanda un ultrawide, dar ceva minim 34'', rezolutie minima 3440x1440. Daca nu planuiesti sa te joci, poti sa iei si un IPS cu refresh rate de 60Hz.
Ameteala e probabil din cauza ca ai nevoie de ochelari, dar ar fi bine sa consulti un medic pentru asta.
LE: Poti sa incerci un mouse vertical pe langa cel clasic si sa faci schimb intre ele din cand in cand ca sa nu stai cu incheietura in aceeasi pozitie. E foarte bun cel de la Logitech daca n-ai mana mare (pentru mine e prea mic), eu deocamdata folosesc un Trust Rexx care sta foarte bine in mana, dar mi se pare ca se apasa un pic prea greu butoanele. Acum astept sa imi vina un mouse de la Evoluent pe care l-am incercat la cineva si mi s-a parut perfect pentru mine.
I have a couple ergonomic mice. The one you see is a cheap-o wireless ergonomic Tecknet mouse I just picked up. It's ok. I find the tracking a little off but I'm still playing with it and for the price you can't go wrong.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JJEC31C
However I also have an Evoluent vertical mouse that tracks better (I have the old wired version of that):
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00427TAIK
I think it's overpriced, but at the time it was the only vertical mouse I could find.
If it's not clear the vertical orientation on these mice is less stressful on your wrist. I had some RSI a while back. These mice helped eliminate it.
I have just been diagnosed with RA, and still waiting for my appointment with the Rhuematologist, next month. I work in IT, and use a keyboard/mouse a lot. for work, I highly recommend getting an ergonomic mouse in addition to an ergonomic Keyboard. I have this one by Anker at home. It is very comfortable, but for more than 4-5 hours it caused my pinky to curl and get really stiff. I have this one from Evoluent at work, and I am able to work through my 9 hour day without too many problems, as long as I am using my ergonomic keyboard, which I use both at home and work. I hope this helps!
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What exactly are your problems with the switches? Carpal tunnel and loss of strength on the fingers?
A vertical mouse might be better for you, like this: https://www.amazon.com/Evoluent-VerticalMouse-Regular-Right-VM4R/dp/B00427TAIK
For absolutely light weight, why not a touchpad? https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Touchpad-Multi-Touch-Navigation/dp/B005DSPLC6
I work in state gov so we got all that ergonomic assessment stuff. Some of it I think is pretty silly but the guy had some good advice as far as changing phone position to require less of a reach (or maybe you could put it across your desk so you have to get up to get it?), using a headset instead of the cradle (pretty bad for your traps), and I use one of those more neutral-grip keyboards and mouses like this actually so less internal rotation on average. If you can't get a standing desk, then maybe making a bunch of little changes like that could add up to help you out. Because yeah, no amount of mobility is going to fix 40+ hours in bad positions.
http://www.amazon.com/Goldtouch-GTU-0088-Adjustable-Comfort-Keyboard/dp/B005ZLTNN4
Most of my development team uses the above split keyboard all at different angles and heights.
I pair this with a vertical mouse http://www.amazon.com/Evoluent-VerticalMouse-Regular-Right-VM4R/dp/B00427TAIK lot of wrist problems went away after making the switch. Two years in still a happy coder.
Depends on the mouse. At work I use an Evoluent v4 because without it my arm feels like somebody is driving screws through it. They are special circumstance and as such expensive. And older MX revolutions were 100 a piece.
If you don't mind trackball, I personally use the Logitech M570 and I love it so far, even for gaming.
Also, I used to use a Logitech K360 under the same receiver (using Solaar for syncing), but after I had to accept a Corsair K95RGB as payment for a debt (long & unrelated story), I have been using it constantly with the help of CKB (it support almost everything the official software does except for macros, but key reassigning works just fine and that was enough for me).
If you're interested (and don't mind a shameless plug), here are both in action.
Highly recommend trying this mouse. It is the ultimate lazy mans mouse. You dont have to move your wrist and you can use it while laying down on the couch. All you have to have is a thumb and an index finger.
Logitech M570. I am a fan of the thumb trackball design, although that may be because I had been using exclusively a laptop until a few months ago, and I often had no room for a normal mouse to move around.
If you want something durable, logitech make the best mice. Just be warned, they aren't all braided (I actually am not sure if any of them are). I buy wireless-rechargeable mice now because the last one (glorious logitech one, favorite mouse) started to fray.
Edit: When I thought braided, I meant Razor's level of braided. The usb plug was face down and the wire was straight up and pulled down by the mouse, that's why mine frayed. If you get an extension cord you should be fine.
Only get mice that are rechargeable (via cable) with LED indicators if you are going wireless. AA batteries drain fast and you are gonna really hate it when you forget to replace them and your mouse starts to dim in the middle of a game.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Performance-Mouse-Mac/dp/B002HWRJBM
Is what I use, a bit out of your price range though. It was released in 2009 but I got mine in December so maybe you can find it cheaper.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-M570-Wireless-Trackball/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1394419420&amp;sr=8-6&amp;keywords=logitech+mice
Might be your best bet but it's design might be out of your personal preference zone for how you hold it.
We used a wireless Logitech trackball mouse and a bluetooth tablet keyboard for the observing. Just set the tablet on the entertainment center and had the mouse and keyboard at our table. Obviously there are many options available, but I've included the links to what we have.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-M570-Wireless-Trackball/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1372177634&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=logitech+trackball
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Keyboard-Windows-Android3-0-920-004569/dp/B009JPBPWO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1372177747&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=bluetooth+tablet+keyboard
Old man here, so Logitech trackball is the way to go; even forced my kids to use a trackball since they were like 3 or 4 years old (they're all teenagers now), so they grimace and scowl when they use a crap mouse at school or the library (Library link included!)
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Try out a trackball, like this one
It doesn't answer your question, but if you can move your thumb without problems then it may solve your issue. It will take getting used to, but you can head shot the average player once you are. I have been using a similar trackball since the 90s
Buy her one of these! Now she won't have an excuse to do all that banging.
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-M570-Wireless-Trackball/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1466098037&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=logitech+ball+mouse
It does sound like you're moving your hands a little too much. Are you using F1-F4 for targeting? Have you tried using your mouse to select a target from the party list instead of using F1-F4? My most effective healing is using the mouse to select people from the party list, and having my primary healing spells bound to 1 - 5 (Cure/Cure2/Cure3/benediction/Regen). Stoneskin and Protect are on 7 and 8 because they are used less. Other healing spells (Medica/Medica2/Divine Seal/etc) are bound to Shift 1 - 5 and Alt 1 - 5. Now, I have small hands, so hitting shift 1 - 5 and alt 1 - 5 is a little
complicateduncomfortable, so I actually bound the forward and back buttons on my mouse to shift and alt using a program called XMouseControl. This way, all I have to do is shift my index finger of my right hand ever so slightly to access those abilities, and my left hand doesn't stray far from the keys for my abilities or the keys that make me move.I use the same concept for my offensive abilities (aero, stone, etc) but instead of using 1 - 5, I use shift- & alt- Q, W, E, which leaves W available for movement. I got rid of strafe directions because I never use them and remapped Q and E to Chocobo and Sprint
Also don't discount that in a clutch, you can press both mouse buttons at once to run in whatever direction you are facing.
I'd honestly go out to some training dummies and spend some time playing around with the keybindings until you find something that you're comfortable with. It's very different for each person - hand size, keyboard size, placement of keys, the desk you're sitting at can all make a difference in how things feel, so it'll take some playing around until you find what feels right for you. A lot can also be said for just plain muscle memory. It'll take awhile once you find a layout that is comfortable for you, but after awhile muscle memory will kick in and you won't even have to worry about it.
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Here's another one. I use one similar to this, and it works wonderfully for me.
But there are a variety of things you could try: Trackball - Gaming Mouse - Big Ass Mouse
Get a simple track ball mouse like the Logitech m570. You can use your finger to move the ball, and then move it over to the button to click, without having to move your hand at all. (And after looking at the picture, you might be able to use thumb for the ball and finger for the button.)
I had scapholunate repair surgery in my right wrist, (with a second follow-up surgery) so know where you are coming from. I also recommend an electric toothbrush if you don't already have one, for your left handed tooth brushing. Contrary to what most people think, brushing teeth is the hardest daily bathroom activity to do with your non-dominant hand.
Boy do I have good news for you. I just went through all of this and got myself set up.
First off, try a trackball mouse. It keeps you from having to move your shoulder so you don’t crack or dislocate it while playing. Personally, I use my thumb and index finger on the ball because it eliminates most of the problems with shaking fingers moving the pointer. This is the mouse I use. It is nice because above the ball there is a DPI switch you to change the sensitivity (is moving the ball one inch moves the cursor three inches or one half inch) which is nice for shaky hands that need to hit something precise. This model is much cheaper, and I used one forever before I bought this new one.
Then I bought a separate keypad for assigning spells/attacks. It is curved and keeps your left hand at a more natural angle, and for me dramatically reduced the number of duplicate and unintended key presses. I map arrow keys to my thumb, jump under my thumb, tab above my thumb, and shift to the bottom left corner. Unless you talk a lot in chat, you’ll never need to take your hand off of it. It also has multiple “layers” through the software, so, for me, my #1 layer is modifier keys and Numbers 1-0. My #2 layer is chat emotes and system keys (escape, etc.). If you play retail, you can also bind system macros to it, that go beyond what wow normally allows (tab target tab target tab target... for hunting rares). This is the new model of what I use. There is an older version as well, but for the meager price difference you’re better with the new one.
I know that’s a lot of money to invest for WoW, but it’s really more “general computer use”. I have all my major macros (cut and paste, etc) assigned to a third layer on that keypad, and the trackball mouse is what allows me to use the computer at all.
Good luck, and I hope you find a way to enjoy it!
I use a trackball mouse. I know it's not a controller but it seems to work great for sitting on the couch. Here's a link:
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Trackball-Computer-Mouse/dp/B0043T7FXE
Hey, that's my mouse! Logitech M570, and here's a referral-free Amazon link for anyone who wants to learn more about it. Really is a joy to use. It's not weird at all going from moving the whole mouse to just rolling the ball with your thumb. And, you know, this being /r/sex, a person who can work a trackball might find themselves skilled in other areas... or not, but I can see the connection. ;)
So a lot of what you got is right but
mostsome of it for the wrong reasons. Namely the picture that is on my wall I bought from a garage sale for a dollar. The echo was my sole HS graduation present, so well off; yes, rich; no.(I like using semicolons, despite not knowing how to use semicolons;) The board is not custom built, its a reddragon k552 Kumara, the wristrest is a cedar plank from a house I was working on over the summer. It is the perfect size and everything. I am working on a split board (on top of my left speaker.) and just threw the blank keycaps from that on Dvorak user so qwerty is absolutely pointless. Interested in mechatronics or eletrical engineering yes.Member of /r/G502MasterRace , /r/thinkpad (my newest obsession) and /r/MechanicalKeyboards and 18 years old.
US yes, and world traveller yes, the coins are helped by the fact that my dad travels for work and is now at like 54 countries or some stupid number like that. I'm 'only' at like 19 countries, only...
There are still a few tidbits that everybody so far have missed.
Edit most to some
Edit 2 I have not just good taste in mice. I have great taste in mice. G502 at home, M570 on the go.
I entered the game 2x just to make sure I was doing the right thing. Mouse wheel scroll works just fine outside of BT4 but not in it. Pressing the mouse wheel does exactly what it's supposed to outside of BT4.
I have a Logitech Trackball. I've successfully played tons of games with this mouse and it's predecessors so I honestly don't know what the issue really is.
Always been a HUGE fan of gaming mice. I've always used Razer and recently a logitech gaming mouse. The key is the sensitivity settings and multiple buttons. You can assign two buttons to set the sensitivity up / down. So if you are streaming / digitizing and need nice slow movement you can set it for very low. Also the multiple buttons come in handy for assigning common tasks so you don't have to mess with the keyboard or moving the mouse away from you work.
Here are the two that I've been using with great pleasure.
Razer Orochi bluetooth mouse (it is small, but I really like it) http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Orochi-Mobile-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B00AAS88K6 5 programmable buttons. And on-screen display to show you what sensitivity stage you are. Which is helpful.
Logitech Wireless G700 http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Gaming-Mouse-G700/dp/B003VAM32E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1414162387&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Logitech+Wireless+Gaming+Mouse+G700 I like how it fits my hand and there are more buttons than the Orochi. I think it has 9 programmable buttons.
I've never used a graphics tablet but can see how it could be useful. I do have a trackball mouse (Logitech M570 Wireless Trackball) because of a wrist injury. But it's just not the same. I find it to be a bit jerky and doesn't have the fluid, smooth movement of my gaming mice. http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-M570-Wireless-Trackball/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1414162541&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=trackball+mouse
With overuse injuries that dull ache will eventually become a sharp pain. How long it takes is different for everyone, for instance my threshold for repetitive use injuries is extremely low (I'll get that dull ache after only a few hours of traditional mouse use). That's why I switched and got a trackball mouse that allows my hand to stay stationary and I only use my thumb. I do a ton of fine, precise movements with my mouse at work and this is a life saver. I now have minimal pain and I use one all day. Definately recommend the thumb tracking over ones that use your fingers, as your thumb has an additional plane of movement (rotation) that your fingers do not. If you get one where you use your fingers your going to run into the same problem.
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Trackball-Computer-Mouse/dp/B0043T7FXE
I was getting really bad wrist pain earlier in my career. I swapped to a track ball with a wrist pad and haven't had any in the 6-8 years since. Highly recommended.
I personally use these two:
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-Wireless-Trackball-M570/dp/B0043T7FXE/
https://www.amazon.com/Vankey-Keyboard-Silica-Support-Computer/dp/B01M004ZYK/ (not this exact one but identical shape and material for the mouse hand.)
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I'm on my third logitech m570. Two of them broke after years of use, i've changed some batteries, but it's the best and most convenient fucking mouse in the world. Best $28 you'll ever spend
Azio MGK1 with Kailh Blue Switches
And Logitech M570 Wireless Trackball Mouse
I'd hazard a guess that /u/dragontology probably has a Trackman Wheel (which is a bit of a precursor to the current M570) and just refers to it as a "Trackman". Either that, or /u/dragontology was sold an M570 and told that it's called a Trackman, because the M570 really fits the description that they have given.
I was referring to something like this so that you did not need to rely on a surface to utilize the mouse: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Trackball-Computer-Mouse/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=pd_bxgy_147_2?_encoding=UTF8&amp;pd_rd_i=B0043T7FXE&amp;pd_rd_r=M2FREKY2CFQ9DXDG6ADH&amp;pd_rd_w=A6n80&amp;pd_rd_wg=3U9Rf&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=M2FREKY2CFQ9DXDG6ADH
Would she be more open to the idea of a trackball mouse and gaming keypad? neither are considered ideal but still a possibility. (one i've been seriously considering due to wrist problems)
Thumb trackball
Gaming keypad
This is what I use and I absolutely love it.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-M570-Wireless-Trackball/dp/B0043T7FXE
Very precise, battery lasts forever and really comfortable.
This mouse is really great and has helped me with some tiny wrist and shoulder issues:
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Trackball-Computer-Mouse/dp/B0043T7FXE
I also use an ergodox keyboard, which has done wonders: lets you keep straight wrists, opens up your chest with a shoulder-width apart configuration, which leads to much better posture. Also, I modified the firmware so that modifier keys such as control and alt are used by thumbs, so no more emacs pinky. I actually recommend this since the palm rests are really great: https://ergodox-ez.com/
My setup for work (IT consulting.. sysadmin/developer/email writer) for years now has been:
MS Natural Ergo 4000
Logitech M570
Both of these of course have their detractors, some folks can't stand trackballs, and ergo keyboards. However, for work purposes, this combo can't be beat.
Several of my coworkers swear by this combo from Microsoft as well. The sculpt is the 'next-generation' version of the 4000, and it's pretty nice.
I have a logitech trackball, and I love it, basically, you keep your hand in a comfortable position and move the ball using your thumb. Its also great for working on the go as you don't need space to move the mouse around.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-M570-Wireless-Trackball/dp/B0043T7FXE
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-M570-Wireless-Trackball/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=sr_1_1?rps=1&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1343268468&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=logitech+trackball
Here you go..
I really like this one, don't know if it's too expensive for you to try and not like it though
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This is the only mouse worth using.
All others are playing for second place.
/Thread over.
And for that, I thank you!
Logitech M570 Wireless Trackball Mouse – Ergonomic Design with Sculpted Right-hand Shape, Compatible with Apple Mac and Microsoft Windows Computers, USB Unifying Receiver, Dark Gray https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_gpAOCb2N6NVMB
Can’t go wrong with this
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-M570-Wireless-Trackball/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1368748969&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=trackball+mouse
it took a bit to get use to but I love it!
Dude I have that same trackball mouse and it kicks ass.
You use your thumb to move the trackball, while your fingers stay on the left and right click buttons. Check out the reviews on Amazon. Currently has 4.6/5 with over 900 ratings.
It's seriously way better than a regular mouse. I can never go back.
I don't have a lot of desk space so I needed a stationary mouse and ended up with one of these Logitech M570(https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0043T7FXE/). I have it velcro'd to the right side of my MPK261. It fits perfectly and doesn't inhibit the use of the faders. It's a good mouse if you like track ball mice. Great for cramped spaces. Works really good for my situation.
Edit: Worth mentioning: It is always turned on and gets really long battery life.
I've used a trackball for years and cleared everything without an issue blamed on my mouse. I use this one. I have to replace it every few years but I love it. I used to get really bad tendonitis and this basically resolved that issue. It has a scroll button so I can zoom in and out no probs.
Unfortunately, it doesn't look like you can change the keybind for the scroll part otherwise. She could always try to use a controller if she doesn't want to buy a new mouse?
My main PC also stands in the living room connected to the TV. I can recommend the following mouse replacement. You can place it on your leg or simply beside you. Takes a little to get used to for some, but it's great.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0043T7FXE?cache=6dcd6437b4384a5716b08c2f70f9ffeb&amp;pi=SY200_QL40&amp;qid=1414940078&amp;sr=8-3#ref=mp_s_a_1_3
Yeah, the ball on it
I don't know anyone that has this issue but would a mouse like this be better? My brother has been using them for near 20 years and is one awesome CS:GO player. Cursor and aiming are used with your thumb instead of hand, just an idea, not sure it will help in your situation. http://amzn.com/B0043T7FXE
I was using a Microsoft Intellimouse for about 10 years, and finally decided to purchase a new one as I was having chronic issues with the rubber feet falling off. I decided to get a Logitech G400 and love it. It feels like it's built really well, and it fits in my hand similarly to the Intellimouse, which I really like. I have no experience with the G500, but the G400 is a great option if you're looking for a solid mouse without 83 buttons.
You mentioned G500 so you may know about this already but I've personally gotten the G400 as a replacement to the 510/518, fairly close to them minus the finish of the mouse itself which makes it feel a bit weird.
There are a lot of great mice for relatively inexpensive. DPI, comfort, extra buttons, build quality, wired/wireless, etc. You can probably get something that fits your needs for all of those for under $50. If you aren't picky, you could just get something like this for super cheap. I personally use this mouse, which I really like. I think keyboards are trickier though. If you aren't wanting to spend much money, you don't want mechanical, so a $10 keyboard and a $60 keyboard are basically gonna feel the same, outside of general shape and build quality (which is still important). I had a pretty expensive Bluetooth keyboard from Logitech for a while and hated it, since it would cut out all the time and I wasn't wild about the way the buttons felt. I ended up switching to one of these. Now I use a mechanical keyboard, but you don't seem interested in that expense. I would stick with just a simple, cheap wired keyboard, unless you want media or macro buttons or something. Wouldn't hurt to just go to a store and try a few out.
If you DO do a fair amount of typing though, paying around $100 for a mechanical keyboard really is worth it in my opinion. You could find tons of resources on those around the internet. I use a Das Keyboard.
Don't buy that mouse for the $50 that it's listed there. It's a great mouse (I have one), but it's been out for years. Logitech just replaced it with the G400 which has twice the DPI and a much better report rate. I would say either buy the MX 518 when it's much cheaper or just the the G400.
If you're looking to game (which seems to be the case), my only real recommendation is that for $40 you're better off getting a good mouse and a standard keyboard. $40 in the keyboard department won't net you any big benefits, but a $40 for a mouse definitely will. I personally thought that mice didn't matter a whole lot, but eventually got a Razer Deathadder and MAN it made a world of difference in comfort and overall enjoyment. If you can spring for it, I'd definitely recommend something like a DeathAdder (~$50) (though it seems like the Logitech G400 for $35 might be a better option for you). Most Logitech fans rave about the MX500, though it's not sold anymore, you may be able to find one with comparable features.
Logitech never disappoints. This mouse has been around for years and is still the best bang to buck ratio mouse I've used. http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Optical-Gaming-High-Precision-910-002277/dp/B0055QZ216/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1374415115&amp;sr=8-14&amp;keywords=logitech+mouse
The part that makes it great is you can adjust it's sensitivity just with the touch of a button on the mouse itself. No need to go to your control panel or game settings. Only use a wireless mouse if you use a laptop and you are constantly on the go. Wired mice are cheaper and more reliable with more features.
less expensive model
this is the mouse i use, http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Optical-Gaming-High-Precision-910-002277/dp/B0055QZ216/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1343236182&amp;sr=8-4&amp;keywords=gaming+mouse . i am not sure if that's the type of grip you want but, this mouse when you download the logitech drivers you change the dpi to anything between 0-3600. This mouse also has 5 extra butttons (besides the 3 standard) for your needs, and is also very in expensive.
G400 is pretty much bang on you price range and I heard lods of good things about it when I was looking for my mouse.
I ended up going for the SteelSeries Sensei over the Logitechs because of the two extra side buttons and better scroll wheel. As a bonus you can do a ton of software and macro customisation and it's all really simple to do. $85 though but I couldn't recommend it enough.
microsoft sidewinder x4 $42.99
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002ZV51DI/?tag=pcpapi-20
Logitech G400 $38.11
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0055QZ216/?tag=pcpapi-20
It should make no major difference. Working on things like macro will have more of an overall effect on your play then getting a new mouse will.
That said, I was playing with a crappy Targus bluetooth mouse for a long time and it was inaccurate, would jump, and lose connection during games. I picked up a Logitech G400 and it's been great. And while I did more up the ladder more after getting it, I don't attribute my success to a mouse, but rather improved macro.
A few things to note:
I know none of that is really what you asked for but it's all stuff I wish knew before I bought a laptop for college.
In all honesty if I could go back and give myself a piece of college computer advice it would be to avoid spending too much money on a gaming laptop and to get a netbook instead. Granted, my 2006 MacBook Pro is still working but it wasn't ever the gaming PC I'd hoped it would be.
The portability was nice but the inability to upgrade my computer as tech advanced put me at a disadvantage midway through my college career. After a couple years I started to lag behind the current technical requirements and was unable to play the newer games that I wanted to play. With a laptop you're almost forced to wait it out simply to justify the initial cost. You either replace the laptop completely or tolerate slowly degrading performance to save money. There's no way to spend $200-300 on a new GPU if you need it (or if you just want to upgrade and have the cash to spare).
It also became a bit of a hassle simply because part of me really wanted to treat the laptop as if it were a desktop and leave it on the desk. I had speakers, a mouse, and a USB hub all set up but plugging in and unplugging everything at least a few times a day to move my laptop got to be a pain in the ass over the years. This might not be an issue for you but it definitely bugged me at the time.
In 2012 I'd personally get an inexpensive netbook (you can get one for $200-300) and spend the rest of my budget building a PC (head to /r/buildapc if you want to go that route).
Cases are super subjective, that one will do fine if you like the look of it. It's an ATX case though, so I think you should get an full ATX motherboard. ATX motherboards have more slots, usually cheaper, and may be higher quality but that's a crapshoot. For the motherboard get this MSI one. It's a little more expensive than the one you have but that's because the one you had a cheaper business chipset. The different in features between the B85 you had and the H87
I'm recommending out is better SATA and USB3 support. Also better power distribution for your CPU the benefits of which isn't super important.
If you were to get a SSD, you would install windows on it and a few games. All of the other stuff will go to your harddrive. There's a SSD optimization guide on the sidebar, it was written for Windows 7 but it should be pretty much the same for 8. If you do end up getting one this Sandisk Extreme is pretty good. You can also look at Samsung's 840 series they're good as well.
Wireless depends on several things, whether you could snake a cable through the house, what kind of router you have (802.11n or above?), and what kind of games you'll be playing (get wired for twitch shooters or MOBA's). The GTX770 is actually a pretty significant improvement over the GTX760, look at benchmarks and determine if you think it's worth it for the games you play. The main thing to look for is that whether it pushes the FPS to over 60.
As for the keyboard. There's mechanical and nonmechanical keyboards. Mechanical keyboards are the clicky type that old IBM keyboards (I dont' know how old you are) were. They feel more solid and are loved by games for their responsiveness. I have a Corsair Vengeance k70 that I love. It's expensive though, there's also the cooler master one. This is a whole another can of worms, there's also different switch types. /r/MechanicalKeyboards can help you there. For the mouse I can safely recommend the Logitech G400 but for MMO's you might want more keys so there's always the G600 by logitech or the Razer Naga. I'm personally not a big fan of Razer's stuff I think they're way too flashy and apparently their build quality has gone down over the years as well. You'll have to do some research on your own there.
Anniversary story -- it's happening right now :) My husband has never been awesome at gifts, and he's always felt really bad about it. Sometimes he just wouldn't get me anything at all, or say he would later and then never do it... anyway, he overheard me talking to some friends about how it kind of makes me sad, and he's been stepping up since the first of this month. Our anniversary is on the 14th, and i've been getting little gifts every day with a number countdown on each one :)
For a year or so after college, between work at an MSP and coming home to an empty apartment and a very enthusiastic WoW habit, I was spending 17 hours a day in front of a computer. I started experiencing wrist pain that was so bad I couldn't drive my car anymore. I switched to a more ergonomic keyboard/mouse setup and my wrist pain disappeared within a few of weeks.
I've long since left the MSP and WoW, but I've kept the keyboard and mouse, and recommended the same pair to many coworkers.
Microsoft Natural 4000 Ergonomic Keyboard
Logitech G400 Mouse
I also make liberal use of Allsop Metal Art Monitor Risers and clamp-on monitor arms - in my opinion, monitor position is just as important as proper keyboard and mouse ergonomics because it affects back, shoulders, neck, and eye strain too.
EDIT:
In the past, I've had clients and management balk at the price tags on ergonomic hardware. They'll argue something like "I can go to Wal-Mart and buy a new mouse for fifteen dollars. Why should I spend four times that much on a video gaming mouse?" because they don't understand the value that ergonomic hardware actually provides in a workplace.
Mine lasted many years too but eventually failed. The G400 is the spiritual successor and is the one I bought. I have tried many other mice and prefer that style. I would definitely recommend
There is also the G400S which I think just looks different but I didn't research it. There is the G500 but I owned this one for awhile and did not like the texture on it.
There are other brands but I'm a huge fan of this style so while I've tried others, I always come back
Good choice going with the unlocked i5-4670. I went with the locked one and have been regretting it.
For mouse I have a logitech g400 (http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Optical-Gaming-High-Precision-910-002277/dp/B0055QZ216) and I love it. It seems to have a good reputation within the gaming community.
The keyboard I went with is an "i-rocks". It looks nice and works well enough as a keyboard, a little small though.
I wouldn't necessarily recommend the keyboard (though I don't regret it), but I would recommend the mouse.
Everything looks good to me except possibles the heat spreaders of the ram getting in the way of the fan and CPU heat sink im not quite sure how possible this would be. However for the mouse I would recommend the g400 http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Optical-Gaming-High-Precision-910-002277/dp/B0055QZ216 great for the price with high dpi and very comfortable
I have the Logitech G400 and I love it. It has a nice set of customizable buttons and decent DPI range. I also have to say it's the most comfortable mouse I've ever had. Seems to be decent for most mouse grips as well, or at least for me anyway.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Optical-Gaming-High-Precision-910-002277/dp/B0055QZ216/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1348202678&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=logitech+g400
Logitech G400, great mouse, great price
Refurb; the Amazon & Bestbuy offerings are new.
Here is a cheap gaming keyboard I found, and here is a cheap gaming mouse I found.
I had that mouse right before I had the one I listed above. Its a nice mouse but I would get the wired version of the one listed above http://www.amazon.com/Mazer-2500DPI-Optical-Black-Gray-EMS140/dp/B0095ONNTC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1376692126&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=mazer
Get a Mazer. Cheap, good quality gaming mice. Amazon link. Ive had both the wireless and corded versions of the mazer II. Very satisfied.
I have a E-Blue Mazer II 2500 DPI Wireless Gaming Mouse, it only has two things on the side to use for keybinds though. But it's 100&#37; the best mouse I've ever had, I would buy it again.
https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Mazer-Wireless-Gaming-EMS601BKAA-NF/dp/B00DPC015E
(Heres link on amazon)
I have an e-blue Mazer II. It has worked out perfectly for me, and surpassed my expectations. 500/1000/1800/2500 dpi settings with a button for switching on the fly. Solid mouse for the price. You can find the wireless version here, and the wired version can be found here
If you're in the market for a cheap mouse, I recommend this one for $18.99.
Things I like:
Things I don't like:
Overall, my only real complaints about this thing have to do with the way it looks, because I pretty much hate gaudy gamer bling. If they had a limited run of all black ones with no backlighting I would snatch up a couple of them to have on hand as replacements, because functionally it's great. The mouse wheel I got used to, it was just different coming from Logitech style ones. For the price I'm not complaining at all, I would seriously recommend anyone in the market for a mouse try one of these first before they go off and spend $50+ on a gaming mouse. At best you'll save yourself a significant chunk of cash, at worst you'll have a nice backup mouse if you end up buying something else.
This is the mouse that I use, not sure if you would like it as it's a big mouse, but it is a wireless mouse and of really good quality.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DPC015E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
Thanks! Heres a link to the mouse
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DPC015E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
Or, get a vertical mouse. They're designed to stop you from getting carpal tunnel and are just really comfortable to use. I got mine for only $15 but the nicer ones can run a lot more. Here's mine: http://www.amazon.com/Anker%C2%AE-Ergonomic-Optical-Vertical-Buttons/dp/B00FPAVUHC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1398183271&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=vertical+mouse
THIS IS THE ONE I HAVE. TAKES A BIT TO GET USED TO BUT ITS REALLY NOT THAT BAD AFTER THE FIRST WEEK.
I use one of these and I really like it. Took me a while to stop knocking it over, but I've got it figured out now.
I prefer the wired to the wireless because of the latency of the wireless turning back on after not being used for a bit.
Yea so for longevity, I can't comment on it to a big extent, as I have only been using it for about 8 months now, but it has been holding up for me really well; however I do know people who have issues if they take it with them and the USB dongle around it can get broken. This isn't that big of an issue for me.
Also if I can last this a whole year and some change, that isn't that bad for me. I am willing to spend another 80ish dollars to pick up another because of how it has helped me out.
I know there are more expensive ergo keyboards, with mechanical switches and the works, so maybe that would be better of an investment for you?
For the mouse it really is good for me. I am actually picking up the Anker Mouse, the wired version is on sale for 11 dollars right now and is supposed to be very good also. There is also a wireless version that is 19. This may be a better thing to get. I can make a post later after using it if I enjoy it.
Here is the link. It is 11.19 if you have Amazon Prime, or 16.99 without.
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Ergonomic-Optical-Vertical-Buttons/dp/B00FPAVUHC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1495142733&amp;sr=8-1-spons&amp;keywords=anker+mouse&amp;psc=1
I have big hands. I bought one of these and I'm still having trouble getting used to it.
Hi! I also have EDS! Maybe consider a combination of a vertical mouse https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Ergonomic-Optical-Vertical-Buttons/dp/B00FPAVUHC?ref_=bl_dp_s_mw_2528932011, a wrist brace, and one of those mouse pads you can rest your wrist on? https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Gel-Mouse-Wrist-Rest/dp/B06X3W3TM4?ref_=Oct_CAMGiftedC_490596011_2&amp;pf_rd_r=9NPBSP3A6DEFBDYFAXM4&amp;pf_rd_p=cb069fa5-a658-5d48-a438-3b1b5c3428ff&amp;pf_rd_s=mobile-hybrid-5&amp;pf_rd_t=30901&amp;pf_rd_i=490596011&amp;pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER
You could try a vertical mouse. Here is the one I use here
I found dis: flat ; joypad-like and dis (most common "ergonomic" form-factor: colleagues have those and seem statisfied; no idea how well you can game with them though)
Corsair k70 keyboard and Anker right hand wired mouse
http://www.corsair.com/en-us/landing/k70-rgb
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FPAVUHC/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1519751981&amp;sr=8-2-spons&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&amp;keywords=anker+ergonomic+mouse&amp;psc=1
The keyboard may be a bit pricey but shop around, the mouse is very cheap and I prefer a wired to wireless mouse but they have that option as well.
It's called a Sharkk gaming mouse, I needed a cheap mouse with two side buttons so I went for this. It's held up pretty great.
Better option for cheaper, has weight tuning, custom back lighting, braided cable and 3500 dpi https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00G5T1Z5Y/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_PXAnub1ER12DD
It's actually a pretty decent mouse. I bought this version, since it looks a lot better imo.
get a really cheap "gaming" mouse replacement here: I think it's worth having one in your house as an emergency mouse or a lender.
http://www.amazon.com/SHARKK%C2%AE-Programmable-Cartridges-Precision-Adjutsable/dp/B00G5T1Z5Y
I bought this for $7: http://www.amazon.com/Computer-Precision-Computers-Scrolling-Adjustable/dp/B00G5TDGK6 and was actually surprised at the quality/feel of the mouse. Still use it every time I build a new desktop to install drivers and stuff.
There's tons of these sorts of clones floating around. I've seen 3 or 4 mice basically identical to mine in the last couple days browsing Amazon for Christmas stuff
this http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00G5T1Z5Y
I have it and the price baffles me
It's a fairly middle of the road Pc, i5 3.4 Ghz, 8 GB RAM and a gtx 650ti. My keyboard is just a $20 keyboard you can find pretty much anywhere, this is my mouse, it was super cheap and works really nice, I took some of the weights out of the bottom though. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00G5T1Z5Y/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
I just got one of these and I prefer it over my 500s.
https://www.amazon.com/MIONIX-Multi-Color-Ergonomic-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00HGKQ6VY
you might like this mouse if your two fingers are unsupported
All the Logitech mice are way smaller than what they used to make, I am going to say the Mionix Naos 7000
https://www.amazon.com/MIONIX-Multi-Color-Ergonomic-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00HGKQ6VY
I would also recommend the Mionix Naos 7000. Extremely comfortable fit and texture to it and looks awesome with the custom color controls.
https://www.amazon.com/MIONIX-Multi-Color-Ergonomic-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00HGKQ6VY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1468959385&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=mionix+naos+7000
If you want ergonomic I'd recommend this Mionix Naos 7000.
This might work: https://www.amazon.com/MIONIX-Multi-Color-Ergonomic-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00HGKQ6VY
Mionix NAOS 7000 would be a great choice if you like large mice.
http://www.amazon.com/MIONIX-Multi-Color-Ergonomic-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00HGKQ6VY
Absolutely love mine, so comfy. Biggest mouse ever.
This my favorite mouse .. The comfort is.. superb... feels and fits the hand nicely.
The [Logitech mx Master 2s] (https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Cross-Computer-Control-Sharing/dp/B071YZJ1G1/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1510478068&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=logitech+mx+master+2s) is probably my favorite mouse in many years. The grey version would go quite well with the vortex race imo
Ugh, trackballs. I can't stand them, but to each their own.
My home mouse is an MX Master 2S, which I got two years ago when I broke a button on my last mouse, the prior versioned MX Master. I recently bought a new set of plastics for the older one, and brought that into the office. It's a pretty decent mouse, but the quality tends to get meh if you have the transmitter any reasonable distance (read: > 2') away. Otherwise, I love them to death- long battery life, easy to recharge, ergonomic, and plenty of buttons/dials. You do need to have Logitech Options installed (the GeForce Experience of Mice) to configure it, which is annoying, but the pros outweigh the cons.
Coming from the MX Master series (which are chunky and have WEEEEIGHT behind them), I couldn't stand the Amazon Version, as it's the same shape, but like 1/3rd the weight. But, it's also less than half the cost, so I throw them at my users who want an ergonomic wireless mouse.
Monitor
Keyboard
Mouse
Laptop Stand
Setup:
Dell P2217H x2
Dell WD15 Monitor Dock
Happy Hacking Professional 2
Mizux Wireless USB Mini Numpad
Logitech MX Master 2S
These are what I’m using and I love them. keyboard isn’t a mechanical, but it’s really comfortable and quiet. Mouse is the best I’ve used. Might work for what you’re looking for. Then again, maybe not. 😀
> https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Cross-Computer-Control-Sharing/dp/B071YZJ1G1
I have the M720 Triathlon, which looks pretty similar to this (but probably a step down), and I use it with a MBP. Have you had any issues in terms of the smoothness of the mouse? I feel like I'm moving underwater with mine compared to using my G502 with my Windows machine. I installed some kind of Logitech drivers, but that didn't seem to improve things. I'm hoping I missed something obvious that you can point me toward.
Keyboard: Vortex Race 3
Mouse: Logitech MX Master 2S
HeadPhones: Sennheiser Momentum
Cable for headphones: Sukira Balanced
Cable for keyboard: LINDY-USA Coiled
Notebooks: Moleskine Subject Cahier Soft Cover Journal
Pen: Moleskine Classic Roller Pen
MousePad: A4Tech
COIN: Silver Morgan Dollar 1884 s
It's $68 brand new with receiver...
Mouse: Mionix Naos 7000 Optical Sensor
Mouse Pad: Mionix Alioth Medium
Keyboard: Ducky Zero SZ w/Browns
Speakers: Creative GigaWorks T40 Series II
Headphones: HyperX Cloud II Gunmetal
30+ year old Canadian.
I have the Mionix NAOS 7000. I absolutely love it and would recommend it to anybody for the following reasons:
The Mionix website does a much better job selling it.
Seriously, get this mouse.
How would you say the castor is sized/weighted relative to the naos 5000?
I prefer a fairly large/heavy mouse. I put most of the optional weights into the 5000. It looks to me like the naos 8200 has the same exact body as the 5000 so those should be the same. You ever have problems with the sensor on the castor?
There's also the Naos 7000 but it doesn't really seem different from the 5000 or 8200. Naos series uses laser sensors from 5000-8200 DPI. The Castor is an optical sensor with 5000 DPI native. I haven't really used anything apart from the Naos 5000 and cheap mice before that so I don't know much on the differences.
This Mionix one has a similar profile
It all depends on grip, but for my money the Mionix Naos 7000 is absurdly comfortable: link
Also you don't have to install the software if you don't want to.
Also their are even driverless mice as well. Can't think of any off the top of my head. I think Zowie makes one?
Edit: they do. It's called the FK1.
Review by HardwareCanucks.
The review is top 5 mice but it's mentioned in there.
Mouse: Zowie EC1-A, or something along those lines. Should be ~$60, like https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LHRTO5W/
Headset: www.amazon.com/dp/B00ENMK1DW + www.amazon.com/dp/B00BJ17WKK
Keyboard: you have roughly $100-150 left, and what to get depends on what form factor and features you want.
Also, you should get a big cloth mousepad, but that's like $10.
I love my Razor Deathadder, but Razer quality control has a lot of issues, now more than ever. Any of their newer products, typically branded as "Chroma" are horrendous. They're cheaply built and seriously prone to failure. Get the DeathAdder Black or DeathAdder 2013. Those are much higher quality kit, though harder to find and as such, pricier.
As for Non-Razer kit, Logitech, Steelseries, and Zowie have the best rep for mice. Here's a few recommendations based on what I've heard here and read from reviews from Tom's Hardware, PCGamer, and Amazon. If you can, go up to Best Buy and or Fry's and get your hands on the mouse you're looking at. Everyone has a different preferance in Ergonomics. I cannot stand Logitech mice for their feel, but many love them and they're quality kit, as an example.
^("Logitech took the already-excellent G500s and remedied its few flaws, leaving a product that's both more streamlined and more robust. If you have very specific needs — such as tournament-level FPS play or endgame MMO content — the Proteus Core may prove passable. For anyone else, it's hard to imagine a better generalist gaming mouse. Mouse manufacturers, take note: The Proteus Core is the standard to beat.") -Tom's Guide
^("Overall, there's very little objectively wrong with the Rival, but there's not much to set it apart from the pack, either. The Logitech Proteus Core has a better design; the Razer DeathAdder has better software; the Corsair Vengeance M65 has more genre-specific features. Still, if you've got big hands and want something comfortable, the Rival is a solid choice.") -Tom's Guide
^(" In many cases, the mice above are cheaper despite having more buttons, higher sensitivity or better customisation options. Of course, not everybody needs such features, and there is certainly beauty in the FK2's ambidextrous design and simplicity. Nevertheless, it's hard to see where the price justification comes from in the context of the rest of the market, so for this reason it just misses out on an award. That also being said, the overall quality is high, so if it meets your needs and size requirements, you'll be rewarded with a great little mouse provided the cost is not an issue.") - Bit-Tech.net
^("Sometimes a product is popular because it feeds on its own momentum, and sometimes a product is popular because it's legitimately excellent. The Razer DeathAdder is definitely in the second category. Despite a few design quibbles and game-linking oddities, the mouse is an easy recommendation for PC gamers of every stripe.")- Tom's Guide
Here are some good ambidextrous mice:
Ideally you'll want an optical mouse as opposed to a laser one, with a respected sensor like the 3310.
Keyboard: Tomoko Blue Switch Needed a keyboard for when I used a laptop when its keyboard was failing. Went with a cheap mechanical. My short review of keyboard
Mouse: SteelSeries Sensei Swapping out for a Zowie FK1 on Monday (Sensei has disconnect issues after 4 years of use)
Headset: Siberia 350 Originally had a Siberia V2 I got for $50 @ Walmart due to box damage. RMA'd once for a V2 with the soundcard. Audio died in one ear on RMA after a year so RMA'd again and was given the newer Siberia Prism v3. Sound died in one ear after a short drop. Was given $150 in store credit to get the Siberia 350 + Mousepad.
Mousepad: QcK+
Monitor: Acer KG240. Purchased from Microcenter for $150 on sale.
2nd Monitor: Samsung 32" 1080p TV mounted on wall with this wallmount. Bought the TV a few years ago ~2012
Other: Snagged a Razer Tartarus a couple years ago for really cheap. thought I'd use it but never got around to trying it.
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On peripherals that I'd like to upgrade would be Headphones/Mic first. I've always had my eyes on Beyerdynamic DT990 with a DAC/AMP + an AT2020
> I want a mouse that is light, small/medium size, has light left/right buttons, 2 buttons on the left side, preferable large skates under the mouse, flex cable... or wireless and good optical sensor.
A Zowie mouse would probably be your best bet.
> don't care about an accessible dpi button, lightning and not so much the scroll wheel.
Yup. Zowie it is.
Sounds like you were comfortable using the Sensei but the Deathadder Chroma was too big.
I'd recommend the Zowie FK1. It's very similar to the Sensei shape AND fits all the criteria you mentioned (no lights/large skates/side buttons/etc.).
Make sure you pick up the ones that use Omron switches though, since you mentioned that having light left/right buttons are important.
Not trying to come off as spammy, but I've done a review on the FK1 which would be a good fit for you. Check out my review on the Zowie FK series if you'd like.
Note: I receive commission from Amazon if you purchase something after clicking my link
Here's a non-affiliate link to the Zowie FK Series if you're uncomfortable with me getting paid that way.
Let me know if you have any questions about it, I've used the Deathadder Chroma and G302 before so I know where you're coming from.
I've been using a Zowie FK1 for just over a year now. It's pretty simple but it's a damn good mouse because of that. Nice weight and size and the scroll wheel has some resistance to it.
It comes in at fifty quid on the nose too. I usually read reviews and go buy from amazon since other places rarely seem to match the price.
Did you ever try the Zowie FK series?? I've heard good things, might fit the bill if you want to go back to cross-dominant play.
I really enjoyed using the Zowie FK1 as I'm left handed:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00LHRTO5W/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
Very comfortable for long term use, not too snazzy in terms of RGB / features / weird buttons - but more than capable.
http://www.amazon.com/Zowie-Gear-Ambidextrous-Optical-FK2/dp/B00QIH1GD4
Zowie FK2
I would reccomend dropping the price a bit if you are hoping to sell, as the black variant is a bit cheaper new on amazon. :)
BenQ ZOWIE FK2 E-Sports Ambidextrous Optical Gaming Mouse https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QIH1GD4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_kvX9BbWYFK7R8
Buy a mousepad, I think that will really make a difference with the smoothness of the surface you are playing on. As for a mouse, it doesn't have to be a lefty mouse, it can be ambidextrous. The Zowie FK2 is commonly used among pro players and has both an ambidextrous design and side buttons on each side. If you don't have a budget, you could definitely look at something like the Logitech G Pro Wireless.
I know you said not ambidextrous but I'd recommend the Zowie FK2 as it's a really comfortable mouse for right hand use, so I assume the same can be said for left hand use.
Plus it's only 50 on amazon atm.
I dont know what game you play, but I play mostly First Person Shooters (CS:GO is my main game) and I'm using Zowie FK2 and it is amazing. Watch some reviews and think about it.
Maybe the original is more in line [mx master](Logitech MX Master Wireless Mouse – High-precision Sensor, Speed-adaptive Scroll Wheel, Thumb Scroll Wheel, Easy-Switch up to 3 Devices https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TZR3WRM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_YFzdAbJ91YQ26)
I love mine, ended my wrist/thumb pain
It's totally based on personal preference, but take this as .. alternative wisdom. I used to rock dual monitors for years, then I switched to just one, decently larger, monitor. I was finding that the only thing dual monitors was helping me multitask was distractions. Whether I had obvious time wasters like messenger or youtube open, or ostensibly 'work related' programs like outlook, it was always there to distract me from the task at hand. I found that moving to one monitor has let me be much more intentional with my focus. Checking email or texts is still just a ⌘tab away, but now I only do it when I want to, not every time something pops up in my periphery. Something to think about :)
I also use a wacom tablet, MX Master mouse by logi, and these invaluable bad boys.
It is this mouse here: https://www.amazon.ca/Logitech-Master-Wireless-Mouse-910-004337/dp/B00TZR3WRM . If you found this compartment it would be much appreciated
Best bet would probably be an MXMaster, also by Logitech. Cheapest on Amazon is around $70 though. Has a couple extra buttons.
For something more gaming oriented, there's the G602. Similar feel as the G502 mentioned below and runs around $40-50.
For $50~, you should also seriously consider a wired mouse like a G502. It has the same sensor as the G900 and a handful of extra buttons.
Can't use bluetooth in the office? Why?
If your mouse has that same orange icon on the bottom of it, it is compatible with that Unifying Receiver.
If this is your mouse, and it has the icon on the bottom of it, it is compatible.
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Master-Wireless-Mouse-High-precision/dp/B00TZR3WRM
And mx master only $90 as well
https://www.amazon.ca/Logitech-Master-Wireless-Mouse-910-004337/dp/B00TZR3WRM/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=VKMRDX2B16CBF9D19CVK
I already have one. It works for a couple days, then the pain just starts again.
Also, that one does have as many buttons as mine.
I bought a nice wireless mouse (https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Master-Wireless-Mouse-Computer/dp/B00TZR3WRM) and bound anki keys for deck select, zoom in, zoom out, correct easy, and wrong. Made doing anki from under a blanket on the couch during cold months much more enjoyable.
Maybe Microsoft Sidewinder Series, but i do not know if you can find them anymore. And these two have minimal ones i guess.
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Gaming-Wireless-Mouse-Battery/dp/B00E4MQODC/ref=sr_1_24?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1479242232&amp;sr=8-24&amp;keywords=gaming+mouse
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Master-Wireless-Mouse-Computer/dp/B00TZR3WRM/ref=sr_1_65?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1479242338&amp;sr=8-65&amp;keywords=gaming+mouse
If you want super cheap, I use this mouse. Super cheap, but it has two side buttons, adjustable DPI, and it's wireless with a USB dongle. Battery lasts a long time, too, I got this last July and I don't think I've changed the battery the whole time. Maybe once, but I can't remember it. Only $10, too, which is great.
You won't be able to purchase much of that online. You'll have to search your city for that kind of stuff. Dalarrus gave a decent outline, but honestly at $300 a dual-core is what you'll end up getting. You'd want to shoot for DDR4 as that is the now and newer things won't really mess with DDR3.
To be honest, you should save. I know it kinda sucks, but add another $300 to that cost overtime and you'll be good enough to the point of not having the upgrade, not to mention how pricedrops should happen later this year with a lot of new tech coming.
EDIT: However, if you feel enough to upgrade down the path, and simply can't find anything DDR4 and dual-core at a local place:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type|Item|Price
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CPU | Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor | $68.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard | ASRock - B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $62.99 @ SuperBiiz
Memory | G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory | $59.92 @ Amazon
Storage | Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $48.44 @ OutletPC
Case | Zalman - ZM-T1 PLUS MicroATX Mini Tower Case | $28.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply | Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $29.99 @ Newegg
Other| VicTsing| $11.99
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $331.31
| Mail-in rebates | -$20.00
| Total | $311.31
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-14 22:30 EDT-0400 |
Now! With this list, there are certain things to be careful with. I went with 2x4 ram instead of 1x8, in the even of one of the sticks failing. It's best to be safe. Also, the HDD you might want to eventually get an SSD for obvious reasons, but I went with ol' reliable!
There might be a better motherboard to use or at least a cheaper one, but the one listed should be good. It's fine to have a dual-core, especially as the g4560 is hyperthread. It does a lot where it counts. It'll work for a $300 budget.
The CASE! I probably would go with whatever case you want, but this one shouldn't be too bad on the cable management, which is your main concern. Especially as there is a semi-modular PSU listed.
The mouse listed is what I use and it works really nicely and feels great for a $12 mouse. As for keyboards, find something cheap and reliable based off of reviews. Then, of course, go with the 100-foot (or 50-foot if it can make it) ethernet cable and make sure the one you purchase (if it is different from the one I provided) is reliable.
EDIT2: You'll notice that I didn't add a dGPU. That is because the g4560 has an iGPU with it, the Intel HD 610* I believe. It sucks, definitely, but it's your best bet if you really want to look at down the road instead of the curb. You can add a dGPU later, or go with an $80 460 or something. Whatever works when you get it!
Good luck!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B013WC0P2A/ref=pd_aw_fbt_147_img_2?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=CTMDR7D3940N1BH3P7F1&amp;th=1
I have used this mouse for a few months and it has served me well. The only problem with it is that it builds up grime quickly so you have to clean it a lot
I don't have any recommendations for wireless keyboards but I bought two of these these wired keyboards recently and I love them. The always-on backlight was more important for me than wireless. No issues with Mint compatibility and the eight macro keys are fantastic for quick, repetitive tasks. They're the kind of loud clicker type switches which I sort of like.
As for mice, I still use my old wired Logitech mouse with my primary Linux desktop... with one modification. I opened it and put lead fishing weights inside with hot glue to keep them from rattling around. I prefer heavier mice so the tension of the cable doesn't slide it around when you let go.
For various other systems where I need wireless, I got several of these mice. They have an odd power saving feature that shuts off the mouse after ten or fifteen minutes of use and turns it back on when you press a button. That was odd getting used to but it doesn't bother me. Compatibility seems to be great on all systems I have used them on.
The Powerplay mat and the G703 Hero are both $100.
>I've been trying to avoid cable clutter on my desk but I wanna know if I should just go with a Logitech G502 which is half the price?
Two things: First, if cost is any kind of concern, do not think about the G900/403/603/703/903. Second, you can alleviate cable clutter with velcro tying the excess and getting a mouse bungee like the Zowie Camade.
The PowerPlay thing is particularly ridiculous, as you're literally paying 100$ for a more convenient charging station. And if your goal was to get rid of cable clutter, the PowerPlay literally has a cable going to it, so the sum is still 1 cable on your desk, just now it's not attached to your mouse.
For reference:
Is paying almost 3 times as much worth a good wireless experience? I don't think so. Is paying more than 6 times as much worth the best wireless experience you can have? I don't think so. Particularly, if you're just looking to reduce the amount of cables on your desk, the PowerPlay lineup does nothing for that, as the mousepad requires a cable: It literally just shifts the cable from the mouse to the pad.
I believe the G703 is just the g403 with the charging mat compatibility.
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Powerplay-Wireless-Charging-Lightspeed/dp/B071WZ56G9
This is probably as overkill as it gets before starting to lose performance.
Type|Item|Price
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CPU | Intel - Core i9-9940X 3.3 GHz 14-Core Processor | $1815.75 @ shopRBC
Motherboard | Asus - ROG RAMPAGE VI EXTREME OMEGA EATX LGA2066 Motherboard | $1027.44 @ Amazon Canada
Memory | Corsair - Vengeance RGB Pro 128 GB (8 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory | $1179.87 @ Amazon Canada
Storage | Samsung - 970 Evo 2 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $659.99 @ Amazon Canada
Storage | Samsung - 970 Evo 2 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $659.99 @ Amazon Canada
Video Card | Asus - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Dual OC Video Card (2-Way SLI) | $1569.99 @ Amazon Canada
Video Card | Asus - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Dual OC Video Card | $1569.99 @ Amazon Canada
Case | Corsair - 1000D ATX Full Tower Case | $412.33 @ Amazon Canada
Power Supply | EVGA - SuperNOVA T2 1600 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $465.18 @ Amazon Canada
Case Fan | Noctua - NF-A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan | $37.90 @ Amazon Canada
Case Fan | Noctua - NF-A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan | $37.90 @ Amazon Canada
Case Fan | Noctua - NF-A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan | $37.90 @ Amazon Canada
Case Fan | Noctua - NF-A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan | $37.90 @ Amazon Canada
Monitor | Asus - PG279Q ROG Swift 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor | $799.99 @ Amazon Canada
Monitor | Asus - PG279Q ROG Swift 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor | $799.99 @ Amazon Canada
Main Monitor | Asus - ROG SWIFT PG27UQ 27.0" 3840x2160 144 Hz Monitor | $2398.99 @ Powertop
Keyboard | Corsair - K95 RGB PLATINUM Wired Gaming Keyboard | $269.99 @ Amazon Canada
Mouse | Logitech - G502 LIGHTSPEED Wireless Optical Mouse | $199.99 @ Amazon Canada
Headphones | Sennheiser - HD 650 Headphones | $492.29 @ Amazon Canada
Microphone | Rode NT-USB USB Condenser Microphone | $225.00 @ Amazon Canada
Headphone Amp | Audioengine D1 24-bit Digital-to-Analog Converter | $229.99 @ Amazon Canada
Custom Loop | EK Water Blocks EK-CoolStream SE 480 (Slim Quad) Radiator | $132.28 @ Amazon Canada
Custom Loop | EKWB EK-Cable Splitter 4-Fan PWM Extended, 2-pack | $32.99 @ Amazon Canada
Custom Loop | EKWB EK-ACF Compression Fitting for Soft Tubing, 10/16mm (3/8" ID, 5/8" OD), Black, 4-pack | $53.11 @ Amazon Canada
Custom Loop | EKWB EK-ACF Compression Fitting for Soft Tubing, 10/16mm (3/8" ID, 5/8" OD), Black, 4-pack | $53.11 @ Amazon Canada
Custom Loop | EKWB EK-ACF Compression Fitting for Soft Tubing, 10/16mm (3/8" ID, 5/8" OD), Black, 4-pack | $53.11 @ Amazon Canada
Custom Loop | EKWB EK-ACF Compression Fitting for Soft Tubing, 10/16mm (3/8" ID, 5/8" OD), Black, 4-pack | $53.11 @ Amazon Canada
Custom Loop | EKWB EK-Furious Vardar EVO 140 PWM 140mm Fan, 2500 RPM, 2-pack | $88.00 @ Amazon Canada
Custom Loop | EKWB EK-Furious Vardar EVO 140 PWM 140mm Fan, 2500 RPM, 2-pack | $88.00 @ Amazon Canada
Custom Loop | EKWB EK-Velocity CPU Waterblock, Intel CPU, Copper/Plexi | $138.42 @ Amazon Canada
Mousepad| Logitech Powerplay Wireless Charging Mat| $203.00
Custom Loop| EK-CoolStream CE 420 | $135.00
Custom Loop| EK-XRES 140 Revo D5 RGB PWM| $255.00
Custom Loop| EK Vector RTX RE Ti RGB| $230.00
Custom Loop| EK Vector RTX RE Ti RGB| $230.00
Custom Loop| EK-Vector RTX Backplate – Nickel| $72.00
Custom Loop| EK-Vector RTX Backplate – Nickel| $72.00
Custom Loop| EK-FC Terminal X2 3-slot – Plexi| $50.00
Custom Loop| EK-DuraClear 9,5/15,9mm 3M RETAIL| $27.00
Custom Loop| EK-CryoFuel Solid Cloud White (250mL) BUY 5| $20.00
| Total | $16914.49
This uses a custom cooling loop, it is not very hard to make since I used soft tubing, but if you don't want to use that, you can get 2 of THIS or THIS GPU and THIS CPU Cooler and just remove all the Custom Loop parts.
For the main monitor, I chose a 4K 144Hz monitor and 2 secondary 1440p 165Hz monitors which can also be used for gaming or can be used when you stream.
For the CPU I chose a 14 core i9 CPU, which has the best balance of cores and clock speed of the i9 CPUs, you could get more cores but the clock speed will drop a lot and so will your gaming performance.
Here is a Logitech one. Depending on what wireless mouse you have, it might make sense. Like I used to use the G903 with which the mouse pad might have been nice. But now that I use the G Pro Wireless, I really do not have to care about it all that much as the new sensor in the mouse uses so little power that you do not have to charge it for days in my case.
In that case, my coworker uses this mouse since he works from home twice per week and takes it with him to work. It's pretty ergonomic and also has a rechargeable battery, so you won't have to worry about having AA or AAA batteries around.
Try this: https://www.amazon.ca/Logitech®-Master-Wireless-Graphite-910-005131/dp/B071YZJ1G1
If you like the feel of the Razer Deathadder but hate the hit or miss on quality look into the Mionx NAOS 7000.
Fantastic gaming mouse made/designed in Sweden.
http://www.amazon.com/Mionix-NAOS-Optical-Sensor-Mouse/dp/B00HGKQ6VY
I was going to recommend the Logitech G510s and the G502. But, both do kind of have a spaceship aesthetic feel to them...
So, instead look into the Roccat Isku and for the mouse Zowie FK1, DeathAdder Chroma, Mionix Naos 7000, Mionix Avior 7000, CoolerMaster Alcor, Any of the Roccat Kone Pure Optical/Military, or the Corsair M45.
Many of these mice and keyboards come down to preference. So, pick and choose which ones you like and if you have any questions/concerns please respond and I'm sure that someone will respond to you as soon as possible.
Mionix Naos 7000 is probably the most comfortable mouse I have used. Takes a little bit of time to get used too and is definitely a righty only mouse.
In case you cannot find a seller, Amazon is selling it new for $54.99
http://www.amazon.com/MIONIX-Multi-Color-Ergonomic-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00HGKQ6VY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1450167889&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=naos+7000
GLWB!
I'm thinking about getting a new mouse. I tried some out in store the other day, to discover they all feel more comfortable than the cheap thing I have right now. I don't quite know what it is that I want.
Any other details:
plug and play. [as I use linux, and drivers are generally a bitch]Since I don't know too much about mice, I'm quite open for suggestion, and I don't think I'm too picky and could have my mind changed if you recommend something. If there are any features [esp. ergonomic ones] you think would be useful to me, please tell me.
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Also - What's with the mice with the free wheeling scrolls? Is there a list of mice that use this? What are the general uses for this? Looks quite fun though... So, if it's a choice that I can get w/o many sacrifices, I wouldn't say no.
edit: I'll not have a look over logical increments if anything catches my eye. But I doubt it since I don't really know what I'm looking for. This Logitech G400s and Razer Deathadder are the kind of look I'm trying to avoid.
Check out the Mionix Naos 7000. I use this for my daily driver at work due to it's incredible ergonomics and feel. It has the shape you're looking for without being too heavy, along with the 3310 sensor and awesome software - which is also great. Sells on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/MIONIX-Multi-Color-Ergonomic-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00HGKQ6VY
Get yourself a Mionix Naos 7000. I've got one at home and buying one for work.
https://www.amazon.com/MIONIX-Multi-Color-Ergonomic-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00HGKQ6VY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1522477627&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=mionix+naos+7000
NAOS 7000 if you are looking for pure comfort, but it doesn't have as many bells, and whistles as the G502.
The Mionix Naos 7000 has an almost legendarily good build quality and it uses one of the better optical sensors out there. I just ordered one after much research and consideration. I really like ergo mice though (had a Steelseries Ikari Laser when those were top of the line, but the middle mouse button breaks, then had a Steelseries Na'Vi edition sensei, again middle mouse button breaks and the build quality is pretty low, makes noise when I lift it, I'm done with Steelseries they make crap now).
http://www.amazon.com/MIONIX-Multi-Color-Ergonomic-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00HGKQ6VY
If you don't do palm grip though you might not like this, really depends on your grip.
I don't know why it doesn't show on the deals page but the Naos 7000 is also on sale plus has a $5 off coupon which should bring it to $34.99:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HGKQ6VY/
So which one is better?
My suggestion is the Mionix Naos 7000 if you use palm/fingertip grip.
It's a great mouse with an amazing sensor.
If you use a claw grip the Mionix Castor is only $10 more
Also Zowie FK and EC series mice I've heard as just as amazing.
Why Zowie FK1 and not G502? Try to convince me.
Found it on Amazon and can be delivered tomorrow since i have prime: https://www.amazon.com/Zowie-Gear-Gaming-Mouse-FK1/dp/B00LHRTO5W/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1468883043&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=zowie
Keyboard
Mouse
Were you thinking of the Dream Machines DM1 Pro Gaming Mouse?
Seems to have close to the same dimensions as the FK1.
FK1: 127 x 66 x 38 mm; 91 g
DM1: 126 x 68 x 39 mm; 89 g
i can personally only recommend the ones i have owned.
If you are afraid of driver software or are too lazy to keep updating get yourself a ZOWIE FK1 or 2. I personally use a FK1 and it lets you cycle threw 4 dpi settings and 4 hz styles, all without any software.
The other is the Steelerseries Rival, i loved this mouse, one of the best sensors i have personally encountered, the only thing that bothers me is its oddly shaped once you have played with a more "standard" shaped mouse, as in if you are used to a normal size it can hurt your hand.
Logitech G400 or MX518, boths saddly not produced anymore but these where the best "older" mice i have ever used.
Zowie FK1
Rival
G400
MX518
I bought it here https://www.amazon.com/Zowie-Gear-Gaming-Mouse-FK1/dp/B00LHRTO5W
I wasn't sure if a refund would be possible.
Hello again! Have to once again provide my information in two posts!
Thanks for coming back to me and no problem! You are correct that prices did indeed change, some for the better, some for worse. So it's great that you're here so I can fine tune it so that you don't spend too much money.
So let's first talk about the comments you've provided.
GTX980Ti
Yup, you should really forget about it and go for the newer and better cards for sure. The GTX1070 it's price did not change yet, but it's still a much better choice compared to the GTX980Ti.
In terms of how long it lasts, that really depends on how "picky" you are. But I expect it to last for about 2-3 years, hopefully. It all depends on how much more demanding new games become and how low you can tolerate settings to go. All in combination with the FPS of course.
Keyboard
Ow that's very interesting, I mean.. you technically can get away with a really cheap option that way, but do know that not all "laptop" style keyboards will feel the same. Heck, not even all laptops feel the same.
I am almost certain that once you go to a mechanical keyboard, you'll quickly love or hate it. But most people tend to love it, the whole typing experience is just such a joy.
If you perhaps got a PC hardware store or "gaming" store somewhere nearby that you can go into, they may have some mechanical keyboards on show to try. But be aware that there are a lot of different mechanical switches that all have a different feel. The most commonly used switch are from Cherry MX and they have a lot of different colors, those colors represent a different feel.
Again the most commonly used ones are:
You can still use the MX Brown & Blue switches for gaming (I personally use Browns).
But Razer & Logitech have produced their own switches. Razer simply rebranded the cheaper knock-offs from Cherry called Kailh switches and called them their own "Razer Green/Orange".
Logitech actually went to Omron to design their Romer-G switches specifically designed for gamers!
Here is the Cherry MX tour that was mentioned by Linus & Luke in this video.
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Again, this is just information to have a look at, I haven't met a person just yet who did not like to type on a mechanical keyboard. Some people did mention that it was a bit weird first, but after I told them to type a bit longer on it, they really started to appreciate it and started to like it a lot.
But there are reports online about people not being able to use mechanical switches for reasons that are very legitimate. The most common one is the sound, mechanical switches are louder compared to the laptop & all other membrane switches on the market.
Monitor
I highly recommend to watch the 3 videos that are in my "Learn about cool technology" list.
So to compare the two monitors with each other.
Specification|Asus PB258Q | Asus VG236HE
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Size | 25" | 23"
Resolution | 2560x1440 | 1920x1080
Panel Type | AH-IPS | TN
Refresh rate | 60Hz | 120Hz
Response time | 5ms | 2ms
So as you can see, they're different in a lot of ways. The most important ones are the resolution, panel type & refresh rate.
You trade the higher resolution for a faster refresh rate and a different panel type with worse color reproduction.
In theory, the higher refresh rate is great for FPS shooting games. But unless you play it on a high competitive level, I don't recommend it quickly. If you mostly play CS:GO than I can recommend it.
But if you play Killing Floor, Doom, Battlefield, Call of Duty, FarCry, Crysis, etc.. games with a bit more story to it, then.. I don't think a high refresh rate monitor is required. I would even say that I personally much more prefer the much better colors in all those games.
I also would not recommend that Asus VG236HE monitor to begin with. It's pretty old and there are better options available now.
All 3 of these monitors are very good. The Acer XF240H also got Free-Sync, which is an AMD feature. So you can't use it with the Nvidia card, but perhaps later when you upgrade to an AMD card you can make use of it. G-Sync is the Nvidia version of it. Which is more expensive, since FreeSync is open source and free to use.
This feature is more a luxury than anything else.
Mouse
There are a handful (pun intended) of great gaming mouse available on the market. I assume you're right handed. So here is a list of my most frequently recommended options.
Name|Review |Price
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Mionix Castor | Click | $69.99
Zowie FK1 | Review (CS:GO pro player) / Comparision (FK1+/FK1/FK2)| $59.99
Logitech G502 RGB | Review / Update to RGB | $59.99 (even at Amazon)
Logitech G402 | Review | $39
SteelSeries Rival 100 | Review | $35.99
Razer Deathadder Chroma | Review | $53.99
Now in terms of my personal favorites, it does go to the Mionix & Zowie options. The Zowie line-up has a whole lot of different shapes and weights, they've also released the AC line-up not that long ago which offers a different shape as well.
Then for the "best of everything in one" it likely needs to go to the G502, with lots of buttons, a great sensor and adjustable weights, blabla.. I don't like it too much and thus included the G402, which is a tuned down version of the G402. It got a few less buttons, no RGB lightning and no adjustable weights. But still a very awesome sensor and it's also very well priced.
Than the Rival 100 & Deathadder Chroma are 2 gaming mice I generally try to avoid suggesting, but some people love them and that's why I include them. Have a look and see if the mouse size & fit may be for you. These sensors aren't the best out there, but certainly won't disappoint you either.
i think the keyboard is overkill, the razer mouse is decent, but i prefer this one:
https://www.amazon.com/Zowie-Gear-Gaming-Mouse-FK1/dp/B00LHRTO5W
used by the most cs go pros, really loving it.
for the headset, i would go with a real pair of headphones, like these and add a clip mic!
https://www.amazon.com/Beyerdynamic-DT-990-Pro-250-Professional-Acoustically-Applications/dp/B0011UB9CQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1474983919&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=beyerdynamic+dt990
mic:
https://www.amazon.com/Sony-ECMCS3-Omnidirectional-Stereo-Microphone/dp/B0058MJX4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1474983951&amp;sr=1-3&amp;keywords=clip+microphone
gaming headsets usually have worse sound quality compared to real headphones.
EDIT: The fractal has better airflow. For the best option in terms of airflow, add a 140mm fan at the front. So you end up with 2 intake fans and one in the back.
Also, here are links to some of the other mice:
Also, be sure to use http://CamelCamelCamel.com to check price change trends on these mice if you're comfortable waiting for if/when the price drops.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Zowie-FK1-Mouse-Mac-2-ways/dp/B00LHRTO5W/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1420937848&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=zowie+fk1
This is one of the lightest mice out there, it has a flawless sensor and it feels great to palm or claw.
I really enjoy the Final mouse. (one i currently use)
And the Logitech G303
I disliked the mouse wheel on the Zowie FK1 but the mouse was great other than that.
On the left
Yamaha RX-V377
On top of the Yamaha is a Behringer UMC202HD
The mic is a Shure SM7B
On the right side of the desk is my HP docking station for my work laptop. I work from home a lot so it's nice to have a dock.
In the middle there is an Infinity center channel
I've got 4 of these, front left and right and rear left and right
Using a spdif connection from my motherboard to the receiver.
The subs are two of these.
Keyboard is this
As of tomorrow, mouse will be this
And this huge ass mouse mat
/r/MouseReview you dont need to make a new post, there are PLENTY of posts that are asking for buying advice for cs:go.
As for my personal recommendations, if you like the ambidextrous shape, I would recommend the new [finalmouse tournament pro] (http://www.finalmouse.com/). It is very new so you might want to wait a bit before purchasing, since finalmouse did have some quality control issues at some point last year, and so there might still be some potential issues with it.
If you do not feel like waiting, a still very good option would be a [Zowie FK1] (http://www.amazon.com/Zowie-Gear-Gaming-Mouse-FK1/dp/B00LHRTO5W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1452277860&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=zowie+fk1).
Both of these mice have an optical sensor that will have 0 acceleration, no angle snapping, pixel skipping, or correction. Also the manufacturers did not raise the max dpi that the sensors come with stock from the factory like razer or corsair do with their mice, which will compromise the integrity of the sensor.
An alternative to normal mouse choices, I went with a no-nonsense Zowie FK1. Though when I bought it the price was $60.
The zowie fk1 is available in the UK
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Zowie-Gear-FK1-Optical-Ambidextrous/dp/B00LHRTO5W
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/zowie-fk1-high-performance-gaming-mouse-kb-035-zw.html
... http://www.amazon.com/Zowie-Gear-Gaming-Mouse-FK1/dp/B00LHRTO5W/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1452513130&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=zowie+fk2
is this Gen 2?
i just had my Razer DeathAdder Chroma fail on me and i got a new one on warranty, the mouse was pretty good while it worked, but cant recommend because of bad software.
but i got to test 15 mice in the shop, and of all those the BenQ ZOWIE FK1 E-Sports Ambidextrous was the best one. its one of the lighter ones, good grip and easy to lift, no need for any software to change any setting on mouse, so it is my recommendation. based on all my own selection of tests.
Try this or any of the fk variants (only difference is size). It's $10 above your budget, but it's known as a really solid mouse with a top notch sensor.
I recomend these two as they have the best optical censors on the market ZOWIE FK1 and the logitech g502 The zowie is the one i have currently and i love it but its design isnt for everyone its made mostly for optimization of FPS the g502 is a all purpose mouse which is more suited for mobas and rpgs.
https://www.amazon.com/BenQ-FK1-Sports-Ambidextrous-Optical/dp/B00LHRTO5W/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=fk1&amp;qid=1556178781&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-1
FK1 is available here, not sure which country you stay?
Hmm, this is the link to the product. I guess you'd have to look at the ASIN, B00LHRTO5W, to know if this is the new one.
you heard wrong. I said:
> the new fk1 is still great
and it is. see:
https://www.amazon.com/Zowie-Ambidextrous-Optical-Gaming-FK1/product-reviews/B00LHRTO5W/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_viewopt_srt?sortBy=recent&amp;pageNumber=1
Just go with Ramzinho suggestion as it's the best (you should try out some mice for yourself, see which one fits your hand and your grip better, only you can do that).
But as you asked for a rundown of mice, here's my experience:
A4Tech AK47
PROS
CONS
My first "gaming" mouse, I had no money left after building my computer so I went for this one. It's good for a starting mouse, but low end and the missing thumb buttons are a big turn off.
Logitech G700
PROS
CONS
This mouse is huge, has a lot of features, a lot of buttons, and a lot of flaws. Not recommanded for fast paced gaming because of the short battery duration or heavy ass charging cable.
Razer DeathAdder
PROS
CONS
One of the best mice I used overall, I'll still be using one if they weren't so cheaply made and broke so much.
Steelseries Sensei Raw Rubber
PROS
CONS
A good mouse overall, but kinda bland compared to others, as in not really providing good value for the money. Also has mousewheel issues, which is what made me switch to something else. The issue appeared after a good 7 or 8 months, but was really fucking with me after a while. Basically it would go randomly up when you scrolled down, and vice versa.
Zowie FK2
PROS
CONS
The mouse I'm currently using. It comes close second to Razer in terms of how comfortable it is for me. It's light years ahead in terms of quality. As you probably remarked, I'm not really taking care of my mice (thanks CS), but this one is indestructible. No driver bullshit, but that means no precise DPI settings (you've got 4: 400, 800, 1600 and 3200), and no profiles but that really isn't an issue. Large Teflon pads, it glides really nicely on my goliathus control mat, almost as well as the deathadder. Dunno what else to say, apart that I'm currently happy with it even though I long for the day someone makes a solid deathadder. I'm even using the one my cat chewed the cable off of at work, with a bit of tape it's working fine as long as I don't move the cable too much.
edit: who puts an "s" at the end of mice?
It's important to remember what you'll be using your PC for before picking out your peripherals.
For a mouse:
Any type of MMO or MOBA gaming? I recommend a Razer Naga (Razer hate stems from overpricing, they're still quality products), the Corsair Scimitar, or the Logitech G600. Mostly FPS? I recommend the Zowie FK1/FK2 (they seem to be hard to find these days, unfortunately), the Logitech G400s or the Razer Deathadder. I also recommend you check out this guide for more details on solid gaming mice.
Keyboards are a lot harder because even if I list features you'd need to know what type of resistance you'd want in your keys, when it comes to mechanical.
How much space do you have? Do you need a full size keyboard, a tenkeyless board (which just removes the numpad),or a 60% board. Do you want mechanical, which can make typing more comfortable but is more expensive? Then you'll need to check out some youtube videos if you can't find instore demos. Bestbuy should have a couple, but if not try this video. If you want the clacky noise then Blues are the way to go, but normally I'd recommend reds or browns.
Good luck! And if I notice an error in my post I'll edit soon.
EDIT: Added a couple more mouse recommendations.
Going through Amazon right now, there seem to be different versions of the FK2. Is this the most recent version of it?
There are tons of options on mechanical keyboards and it's probably best to go sift through everything on /r/MechanicalKeyboards.
As for mice, I'm personally a big fan of the Zowie FK2. It's a simple but high-quality mouse. No crappy utility program to manage it. No overabundance of buttons. Only $60. I got mine about a year ago after seeing a lot of positive takes on Zowie mice, especially in /r/globaloffensive.
If you're willing to put in an exta £5 you can get a FK2 from amazon from the new & used section https://www.amazon.co.uk/Zowie-FK2-Ambidextrous-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B00QIH1GD4/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=zowie+fk2&qid=1573931097&sr=8-1
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I have 4 reliable ones in mind atm, but I'm really not sure which would best suit me.
Logitech G-Pro
Logitech G-403
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Zowie FK1 or FK2
If any mice guru can help me out, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!!
> There are a lot of ambidextrous mice on the market, I would suggest getting one of those first. For example, the SteelSeries Sensei has side buttons on both sides and a neutral design so you can use it with either your right or left hand.
Problem is, I'm a big dude with extremely big, long hands. Are there any ambidextrous mice that are sorta big? I've read that most of the ambidextrous mice are kinda small. It's why I like the deathader and rival (which I have now), cuz they're sorta big mice.
http://www.amazon.com/Zowie-Gear-Ambidextrous-Optical-FK2/dp/B00QIH1GD4
Would this mouse be a good buy?
Allora vai su https://www.amazon.it/Zowie-FK2-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B00QIH1GD4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1478009860&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=zowie+fk2.
Clicca su "Nuovi: 6 venditori da EUR 60,92" e scegli quello disponibile
La differenza è che FK è ambidestro mentre EC-A è ergonomico per la mano destra
https://www.amazon.de/BenQ-ZOWIE-FK2-Maus-Sports/dp/B00QIH1GD4/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=fk2&amp;qid=1554929458&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-1&amp;th=1
which size? there appears to be two on this link...
I'm adding in another vote for the Zowie FK 1 or 2, driverless! But seem to be sold out at a lot of places.
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Logitech MX Master.
Stop buying the shitty, wannabe mouses. Get the Logitech MX Master and you're going to save much more money in the long run. Hell, anything from Logitech is going to be a substantial upgrade and will last for years. I'm talking from experience.
the New g900s is awesome but it is marketed as a pro-gaming mouse, but the MX master would work as well (if you have decent sized hands) https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Master-Wireless-Mouse-910-004337/dp/B00TZR3WRM/ref=pd_lpo_147_bs_t_1?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=CD8ZYWFHHK2S5W3ZVJBZ
Here ya go:
Logitech page
Amazon Smile purchase page
Just be aware that their Windows drivers are horrible. I have the Performance MX, which was the successor to this model, and it's a good mouse. But I've had to disable the drivers for the mouse to correct issues with the scroll wheel. Everything still works ok with the drivers disabled, I just can't customize what the buttons do.
oh wow the mx master is pretty much the same price, I remember when it was $100
It's pricey, but it's a great mouse. The speedwheel function is sweet and electronically adjustable.
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Master-Wireless-Mouse-Computer/dp/B00TZR3WRM
So for mouse I would get a Logitech MX Master (https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Master-Wireless-Mouse-High-precision/dp/B00TZR3WRM/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1509671729&amp;sr=1-3&amp;keywords=logitech+mx+master) or MX Master 2 (https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Cross-Computer-Control-Sharing/dp/B071YZJ1G1/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1509671675&amp;sr=8-4&amp;keywords=logitech+mx+master). Both are very good options and are wireless and can be turned into wired if needed. Also the MX Master 2 can connect/switch between multiple computers with different os. As for the mechanical keyboard, it really depends. What do you like? Clicky/Tactile? or maybe Silent/Tactile. It is really up to you. But I really like the AZIO MGK1-K (https://www.amazon.com/Azio-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard-MGK1-K/dp/B010M53SLU/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1509671927&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=azio+mechanical+keyboard) as brown switches are my favorite.
If you're gonna drop ~$100 on a mouse, you would do way better with the MX Master. Picked it up a few months ago and it' the best mouse I've ever laid my hands on, by miles.
Super clean man! But you gotta ditch that mouse and keyboard duo. FWIW, I use a pok3r and a MX Master for my work and home set ups (both are Macs). /r/mechanicalkeyboards is your new best friend =].
Logitech MX Master
No? https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Master-Wireless-Mouse-Computer/dp/B00TZR3WRM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1495593073&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=mx+master I got mine on sale, but it only goes for around $60 at the most.
Small mice are RSI inducers for me and Apple mouse was the worst offender. I have a cheap ergonomic mouse, which is really great and a Logitech Master MX which is very high quality, but not as comfortable as the cheap one.
I use a tenkeyless mechanical keyboard with brown switches at work and a bit smaller one with blue switches at home. I miss a trackpad though, so I might switch to a Thinkpad USB keyboard in the future.
Try checking out this mouse here. The Logitech MX Master. I use it with my MacBook Pro. Kinda expensive, coming in at 99 bucks. However, it's really precise and the scroll wheel is a dream. It also fits really well in your hand.
Monitors: (LG - 27UD68-W 27-Inch 4K UHD IPS)
Monitor Arms: (Bestand - Monitor Arm S1-Grey)
Keyboard: (Keychron - K1)
Left Mouse: (LG - MX Master)
Right Mouse: (LG - G502)
Desk Frame: (Autonomous - SmartDesk Dual Motor)
Desk Top: (Downhomewoods - Unfinished Walnut Butcher Block)
Headphone Hooks: (Universal Metal Headset Hook)
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Thunderbolt Hub: Plugable - Thunderbolt 3 Docking Station)
Soda: (Coca-Cola Zero - Caffeine Free)
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Im tried.. Ask for anything else..
Have you considered the Logitech MX Master? Thoughts on it?
http://smile.amazon.com/Logitech-Master-Wireless-Mouse-910-004337/dp/B00TZR3WRM?sa-no-redirect=1
i currently have the G700(not the s) and was looking to get another for my pc at work, and then i saw no longer available and that the new version was the s, i wish they really didnt put that damn detail on the top, makes it look so cheesy and "gaming" aside from the graphics on the mouse its really good, certainly for a wireless gaming mouse.
for a good alternative i would suggest the logitech MX Master ( http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Master-Wireless-Mouse-910-004337/dp/B00TZR3WRM/ ) i ended up paying a little more and getting this one, check out the review Linus Tech Tips did on it.
I actually want this,
Think about it,
5 buttons. Each scroll wheel clicks down & 3 independent buttons.
Godly concept, i really want one & will continue to search till i find one of modern taste.
And so i did
Edit: Fist contender & i love this idea, its by the thumb.
https://www.amazon.com/Nexus-Silent-double-scroll-SM-5000B/dp/B007T9U460
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01F2XM098/ref=psdcmw_11036491_t2_B007T9U460
Logitech possibly better? Different angle.
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Master-Wireless-Mouse-Computer/dp/B00TZR3WRM/ref=pd_lpo_147_bs_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=2KE0VWDYYG2XDAWT7HN4
Picture of inline wheels by Patriot & article, idk where buy
http://www.pcgamer.com/patriot-defies-god-and-man-puts-two-scroll-wheels-on-gaming-mouse/
HOLY FUCK WHAT IS THIS???? [ it is not a bouble mouse. Not double the mouse speed :( ]
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Trackball-Computer-Mouse/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1488056358&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=2+scroll+wheels
Itz like a lil baby version.
https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-IntelliMouse-Trackball-V1-0-PS/dp/B00000JDFW/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1488056482&amp;sr=1-5&amp;keywords=2+scroll+wheels
Final edit : Gonna possibly buy the Logitech
Wow....that truly is a dream build.
Edit: Time to be helpful!
Windows 10 has rarely given me problems. With a fresh install, it's easy as pie. Upgrading from 8 required some small updates and whatnot but after a week of lazily updating things as they came, my transition was complete. Ymmv though.
You might want to check out the Logitech G700s or MX Master. I think they're pretty friendly for big hands. Ideally if you have stores nearby you can go try different ones and see how they feel.
Links:
G700s
MX Master
There are other mice that are more suitable for gaming in terms of response time or amount of buttons, but if comfort is your number one concern these might be the best fit (haha). Who knows though. There are so many mice out there now that I'm sure tons of them fit for you. Again, getting a chance to try different ones out would be quite helpful. Otherwise it's mostly trial and error, or a trip to youtube to see how other big hand people like different mice.
Maybe they meant one of these?
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Master-Wireless-Mouse-910-004337/dp/B00TZR3WRM
If you want a really nice one, you could go with this, but it's rather expensive.
What about this?
I have a deathadder myself that a friend gave to me after he didn't like it. I was coming from an MX Revolution that died. The MX was my favorite all around mouse ever. I am now considering the MX Master:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TZR3WRM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&amp;colid=PX4XGYMZ0NE9&amp;coliid=IROLNPLNXR39N
I was thinking about the MX Master because I want one that is more utilitarian, but the more that I think about it, I don't do much other than game on my PC. If I did more office type stuff on my PC, it would be a no brainer. BUT, since I really do game on my PC quite a bit, I'm thinking about a Zowie:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TZR3WRM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&amp;colid=PX4XGYMZ0NE9&amp;coliid=IROLNPLNXR39N
Logitech MX Master Mouse. There is a button on the bottom that lets you switch between devices.
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00TZR3WRM/ref=pe_386430_121528420_TE_dp_1
For the Laptop, definitely...
I was able to do the majority of my major on a $400 HP laptop running a cheap intel i3
If it wasn't obvious enough, my tip would be for you to get a decent to good mouse. It makes your workflow much easier and makes CAD easy as well.
I understand that you're a part time gamer with what is most likely a wired mouse in your setup, but If you're willing to do drop $50 (via Amazon) for a wireless mouse, I'd suggest an MX Masters (Logitech)
It's "expensive", but it will Last you a good while.
If not, any other mouse would do.
there is one on sale rn
> https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Master-Wireless-Mouse-Computer/dp/B00TZR3WRM/ref=sr_1_65?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1479242338&amp;sr=8-65&amp;keywords=gaming+mouse
Logitech mx master is a productivity mouse. Not a gaming mouse.
Not with multi touch feature but I just got this mouse from Logitech and I like it. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TZR3WRM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
Also on special at Amazon https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00TZR3WRM/ref=pe_2331340_238993790_em_1p_0_ti
Oops! Sorry!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00TZR3WRM/ref=mp_s_a_1_23?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1480108988&amp;sr=8-23&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&amp;keywords=gaming+mouse+wireless
This is one of the best IMO.
It looks kind of funny in the pictures, but the MX Master is gorgeous in person:
http://amzn.com/B00TZR3WRM
I use it every day and only have to charge it about once a month.
I am not big on the keyboard side but for mice =
https://www.amazon.com/Havit-Lights-Optical-Gaming-HV-MS745/dp/B019W2MK54/ref=sr_1_4?s=videogames&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1473544033&amp;sr=1-4&amp;refinements=p_36%3A2422977011
or
https://www.amazon.com/VicTsing-Wireless-Portable-Receiver-Adjustable/dp/B013WC0P2A/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1473544033&amp;sr=1-1&amp;refinements=p_36%3A2422977011
https://www.amazon.com/VicTsing-Wireless-Portable-Receiver-Adjustable/dp/B013WC0P2A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1500932065&amp;sr=8-1-spons&amp;keywords=wireless+mouse&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=A14L9DIA3NK9B0
It has five DPI levels but none of them are 1000 DPI
Seems like you're looking for casual use. If so, I'd highly recommend this mouse off of amazon. If you have prime you can get it in two days and it's worked flawless for me. Even so, you can spend that extra money on a mouse pad (not that it's needed).
[Mouse](VicTsing MM057 2.4G Wireless Portable Mobile Mouse Optical Mice with USB Receiver, 5 Adjustable DPI Levels, 6 Buttons for Notebook, PC, Laptop, Computer, Macbook - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013WC0P2A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_ETYQybNA98J6M)
https://www.amazon.com/VicTsing-Wireless-Portable-Receiver-Adjustable/dp/B013WC0P2A/
I've had this for years. It is better than a lot of mice I've had. I actually prefer it to the Logitech 5G I used to have. I'm all for cheap, but it's all about cost of ownership NOT per unit cost. Basic cost of ownership = (unit cost)/(duration before unit needs replacement). Also, your time is worth something too. Probably worth more than the time it takes to fix a $2 mouse.
https://www.amazon.com/VicTsing-Wireless-Portable-Receiver-Adjustable/dp/B013WC0P2A/ref=sr_1_19?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1500093480&amp;sr=1-19&amp;keywords=gaming+mouse
Head over to r/mousereview. There's a lot more to buying a good mouse than what you use your computer for: what size hands you have, how you hold the mouse, how much room you have on your desk, whether you would use extra buttons....
That said, for a good, cheap generic mouse, I would buy one of these:
VicTsing MM057 2.4G Wireless Mouse
Logitech G300s Optical Ambidextrous Gaming Mouse
Edit: the wireless mouse is quite small; the wired mouse is a regular size for desktop use.
$100 ?
On Amazon you can buy ten windows 7 copies for that money.
$10 Keyboard , $10 Mouse , $27 Controller - all this is as pricey as a year of online gaming on Playstation - Monitor price = TV price
This one??
if you are in the US this is decent:
https://www.amazon.com/VicTsing-Wireless-Portable-Receiver-Adjustable/dp/B013WC0P2A/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1501705351&amp;sr=1-4&amp;keywords=mouse
Just ordered the VicTsing MM057 2.4G Wireless Mouse for $5.99 after using coupon. I think I'll be fine with cheap mouse for now, I'll get a proper one other time when I decide to get other better pc components as well at the same time.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013WC0P2A/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&linkCode=sl1&tag=unbojunk-20&linkId=cb674162949074f9c8b1bdabb3d41ac9&th=1
That looks like a great mouse. After doing some browsing I have found multiple mice on amazon for pretty cheap (around $10-$15). Is something like this a steal or is it something to avoid?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B013WC0P2A#Ask
Are you looking for new or used? If new, Amazon has it: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071WZ56G9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fz7eAbGJCYB9D
Not sure what your budget is but here are some ideas:
Wireless Charging Mousepad
(This is pretty new gaming tech if he likes wireless mice)
Wireless Charging Mouse
(There are 2 types from Logitech for the new pad)
Pressurized Growler
If he works, look at nice laptop bags.
See if he likes Bawls or other gamer drinks/edibles.
Hope it helps.
If I was spending that much on a mouse and mouse pad I would spend a little more on their powerplay mouse pad instead. It’s compatible with that mouse.
Amazon Link
Pricing on the Powerplay mat is like ~$150 now from amazon.com including shipping and ships faster than the 3rd party seller. As to why it's not avaible right now only thing I've got is a thing from Memory Express's website. " Due to the Canadian wireless charging regulation, the Logitech POWERPLAY WIRELESS CHARGING SYSTEM (sold seperately, part number 943-000109) is not available in Canada."
Powerplay mat on Amazon.com is available for ~$95 + $25 in import costs (US Dollars) if it was something you actually wanted
Original response got automod smushed because referral link
It's just the Logitech Power Play mouse pad. It's what most people are using. It does use a smaller 'puck' in the center of the mat, but the charging is somehow different from normal QI charging, so it will charge the mouse in any position on the mat. I think it's only compatible with Logitech mice for that reason.
that mousepad is a charger for a wireless mouse made by logitech
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Powerplay-Wireless-Charging-Lightspeed/dp/B071WZ56G9
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071YZJ1G1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_hMqIAbFNJK3GS
Ah I’ve heard of those, didn’t know they can work on multiple devices like this though. Just checked it out on Amazon, definitely has better reviews than the one I linked. So I can connect it to the iPad through Bluetooth, then to my Mac with a receiver?
I’ll probably order this one if so. Thanks!
Just to confirm, it’s this one? -
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Master-Wireless-Mouse-Rechargeable/dp/B071YZJ1G1/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
Using this mouse: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-Wireless-Trackball-M570/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Logitech+trackball&amp;qid=1557403387&amp;s=music&amp;sr=8-1
You mean like a trackball mouse?
I'm using a Logitech M570 trackball. It's extremely relaxing for the hand, wrist and arm, since you don't move them at all. Once you've changed the speed of your cursor in the OS, you can move around the screen(s) with just a tiny move of your thumb.
Second advantage is it saves room on your desk or you can work on a tiny desk. No need to move a mouse around.
M570
I play ground using a trackball mouse(This one: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Trackball-Computer-Mouse/dp/B0043T7FXE ). I wonder if that can actually look kind of funky.
I worked in an office, and a couple of the other people there INSISTED that [this mouse] (https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Trackball-Computer-Mouse/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1486093835&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=ball+mouse) was the best type of mouse.
It would definitely be challenging to go from using a "normal" mouse to a trackball. I just love my mouse though (Logitech M570). It fits my hand perfectly and is just very comfortable to use. Some people prefer the Elecom trackball. I have used both, but I do not care for the Elecom at all. I am not keen on the placement of the trackball, and the overall design for me is just meh.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-M570-Wireless-Trackball/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1458870572&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=logitech+m570
^ This is an absolute steal at $27 USD. Not sure how much it would be in Canada (you're Canadian right hockey?)
http://www.amazon.com/ELECOM-Wireless-button-function-M-XT3DRBK/dp/B016QCPNUW/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1458870500&amp;sr=8-4&amp;keywords=elecom
If you're willing to spend $30 - $40, I recommend the Logitech M570. It's wireless and works nicely.
Otherwise, check all these out.
I guess you could use a trackball for those games if you are okay with the keyboard on your lap and the mouse on the couch.
EDIT: I forgot that you said you were 5-6 feet away, here is a wireless one. If you are uncomfertable with having your mouse on the couch here is a handheld one. Also this is a pretty cheap wireless keyboard.
I use a Logitech M570
I like to game with it for two main reasons:
and
A gaming mouse is enticing for its various merits, namely all dem buttons, but my desk ATM just isn't big enough to accommodate the range of motion I would need.
I like the Logitech Triathlon M720 and Marathon M705 models. Both are wireless (the Triathlon is also Bluetooth), with Logitech's trademark free spinning wheel.
Alternatively, I could also recommend the M570 trackball, which is very handy when the space is limited or the surface unmousable.
So Far I have been suggested the Following:
Speakers: Logitech Speaker System Z906
Webcam: Logitech C930e Webcam
Trackball: ELECOM M-XT3DRBK Wireless Trackball Mouse
Logitech M570 Trackball
Get a mouse? Trackball mice are pretty awesome if you have limited movement space.
Edit: links...
Logitech M570 Wireless Trackball, Computer Wireless Mouse, Long Range Wireless Mouse https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_opV-ybVRW0VJF
QERY Gaming Mouse, Ergonomic USB Wired Gaming Mouse Mice with 3200 DPI Adjustable High Precision 8 Button LED Optical for Laptop PC Computer Gamer, Comfortable Grip https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XFCCSVG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_nqV-ybV5QN6MR
For the cheap as hell
V7 Standard Full size 3 Button USB Optical Mouse with Scroll Wheel for Desktop and Notebooks (M30P10-7N) - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002FYL7PG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_YqV-yb8DZY4SR
Behold, the greatest mouse to grace the earth:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-M570-Wireless-Trackball/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1418180902&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=mouse+trackball+wireless
But also how significant is the upgrade from 660s to a 970? i've just got one 660 right now and i'm debating getting a second one vs. a 970.
Who uses mouse pads anymore?
I've had a Logitech M570 for a year now and I've loved every minute of it. The trackball took a little getting used to but I'll never go back to a normal mouse again. My battery is down to about 70% after a whole year of use.
Something like this?
(Edit) Duh, you mentioned that by name. My bad. A friend of mine uses it, he loves it.
Do you have decent control over your thumb and index finger? This could be an option.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0043T7FXE
Otherwise in most games yes you can use custom keybindings to use both keyboard and controller here's a guy who does controller and mouse (same concept) https://youtu.be/tsw3EuCfby0
Will this really help? Using a pen requires moving your hand a lot more than a mouse. and gripping it with your fingers definitely strains them. I think a trackball that you move with your thumb (while keeping the rest of your hand stationary) is a far better solution.
As for using a pen to manipulate a graphical user interface, it sucks. Hitting a menu button with a pen is like playing darts. It's the reason there are art programs with interfaces specifically tailored for pens, like ArtRage.
This is the mouse I use.
I used a track ball mouse. Just my personal preference though.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_c_api_DxxRAbNFCZXBT
And your very welcome have fun with fusion360
Have you considered getting a trackball mouse? They have a little ball on it that functions as the mouse so you don't have to move your wrists, surprisingly easy to use. I've used them in first person shooters before, even with little-to-no previous experience with them, and I'm trash at FPS games so they are really easy to adapt to. I keep one on standby so if my wrist is getting sore from using the mouse I can just switch it out.
My well-meaning relatives gave me Amazon cards. At least I was able to get my new Trackman (which I'm pretty sure is why they went that route.) I tried but was unable to pawn them off to friends for Steamable funding.
I agree! The track ball takes a bit of getting used to but so worth it.
this is the one I use
Switch to a trackball mouse. Then you don't need a mousepad. It will change your life.
If the others don't work this was key for me... A thumb operated trackball. Doesn't take much movement and with a little time I was accurate enough for detailed mapping work
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-M570-Wireless-Trackball/dp/B0043T7FXE
That I am not sure of, I have only had mine about 4 months and no issues so far.
Though you have to consider that the M570 is one of the cheapest trackballs you can buy too. I have seen as low as $20, it is currently $26.79 on Amazon
Whoa, whoa, whoa, that's the TrackMan Marble.
You're lookin' for this bad boy.
EDIT: I guess they swapped the Trackman name in order to raise up some inferior nonsense with their godly notoriety. That, or I just had no idea what the fuck my mouse was called and made up a name.
[Logitech Trackman](
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-M570-Wireless-Trackball/dp/B0043T7FXE). I use it with all my notebooks and desktops. Why change now?
Could you use something like this? It'll save your wrist. I know some people use it with pretty good success.
Have you tried a trackball? My buddy swears by them.
I don't know about compact but Logitech makes a trackball mouse which doesn't need a mousepad:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_kt7KDb10QQEAH
Seems like it would work similarly to using a trackball mouse like this one: http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-M570-Wireless-Trackball/dp/B0043T7FXE/
It may be weird at first but after about a week of using the above mouse, I was able to play FPS games and pretty much any other games just as badly as I played them with a regular mouse.
I already use this mouse for all my non-gaming needs and it's helped alot
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-M570-Wireless-Trackball/dp/B0043T7FXE
What about Trackballs!?
I personally love the Logitech M570 for gaming and everything else.
There's a benefit of having to not move your arm/hand when gaming at times IMHO.
It's a known problem with the Trackman Wheel and M570 (which superseded the Trackman Wheel), but there aren't very many alternatives for thumb-ball trackballs.
I recently had an M570 replaced under warranty due to the left button reporting double/triple clicks on a single click/long press. Logitech did send a new M570 without me needing to return the defective one, so it was pretty painless.
There are a few videos on Youtube showing how to take apart a Trackman Wheel and use contact cleaner to fix some button issues. That might be worth a try if you don't have the money to get an M570.
I've found what works best for me is a wireless mouse/trackball (Logitech's Unifying stuff works well), and I still use the SP3's keyboard. And if you do stick with that keyboard make sure in User Preferences>Input you check "Emulate Numpad", it'll allow you to use the regular number keys for the camera views if there isn't a number pad.
Keep in mind I use it while on the train so a trackball is better than a mouse in that situation, as is the SP3 keyboard.
have you ever tried a rollermouse? that's something sort of inbetween!
Also: do you not have any other devices that plug into your computer? have you never use a usb device before? Just curious and intrigued.
A track ball mouse has really helped me. They aren't the best for fast paced games. In those cases I switch off with my normal mouse. I used this one for several years M570
But more recently switched to the MX Ergo
Have you tried a ball mouse? Your hand position is still flat, but the reduction of movement is wonderful if you don't need extremely high precision. And you could probably be fine with that once you got used to it. I have the exact same Anker mouse and it's hit or miss with me. I also have a G9 and a m570. I can't say which i prefer the most in terms of comfort because somehow luckily i don't have much pain unless I'm using a Magic Mouse. I will say they're all good in their own ways. If you've used a ball mouse before it is it's own experience entirely, but i really recommend it if it's within your budget as Amazon has a great return policy if you order from there. I just order an MX Master so I'll be trying out that one next. And if it comes down to it, i have an unopened g602 i forgot to return i can sell if you want something like that.
I could really use this Mouse.. I don't have a mouse, well, won't anymore after Austin gets his PC fixed. This would be perfect for my hand, its blue, its almost like its a perfect fit. Thank you for the contest. :-) Hello, Goodbye~
Gonna have to use a mouse, probably gonna get one of these
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0043T7FXE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
So I can use it anywhere.
Can't help with the keyboards, but I loooove my trackball mouse.
Edit: words n stuff.
What about something like this? www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0043T7FXE/ref=pd_aw_lpo_147_bs_lp_tr_img_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=8N5WM6Y3NYN1VEW861GP
I've got these: keyboard and mouse
I can't say enough nice things about either one of them. Both super solid and much cheaper than I would have expected for this kind of quality.
Buy a cheap trackball - $30 is easily worth it to protect your account. Then you can just remove the ball once you're in position. I use the Logitech for all my remote control needs: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0043T7FXE/refRID=4XXXT3NHHRTDFTTSKM5Q
Get a good wireless mouse trust me after a day or two you know why! I carry this Logitech Trackball everywhere I go because I hate the freaking touchpad.
I was skeptical at first, but I love my trackball now. Logitech M570 all day. My hand is much more comfortable during extended usage. I just wish I didn't need the stupid usb adapter....
This right here will be comfortable, understated, precise, and last you 5ever.
Oh whoopsieeeeeee lol welp adding it here could be a good idea but i guess that's fine too :D
so yeah www.twitch.tv/tsm_dyrus for your answers, it's the same mouse that i use now, just the upgraded version
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Gaming-Adjustable-Weight-Tuning/dp/B00CJD4HD2/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1407756179&amp;sr=1-10&amp;keywords=logitech+mouse
and this is my "new" one
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Optical-Gaming-High-Precision-Engine/dp/B0055QZ216/ref=sr_1_24?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1407756179&amp;sr=1-24&amp;keywords=logitech+mouse
so yeah, seems like dyrus didn't stand for the low sensitivity of the right click, maybe the proteus core fixes it, i'll try it from amazon maybe. Thanks!
I've been using this ($15) from Kensington since June 2012, pretty nice mouse. Comfortable, fairly large. Adjustable DPI (up to 2400) and two extra side buttons. Only buy it if you're right-handed.
There's also this ($12) cheap one from Cobra. Similar deal up to 2400 DPI. Haven't tried it.
If you want something nicer and similarly minimal, there's the G400 ($74) from Logitech. Goes up to 3600 DPI.
All of them have two side buttons and a middle button to scroll through four different DPI settings. Nice and sensitive. I know the Kensington and Logitech should be pretty comfortable unless you have tiny hands.
You can get a mouse similar to the G400, but toned down, only 1000 DPI, but a lot cheaper, here.
I think you may also want to look up the G500.
How about my logitech g400s? Not the current ugly model the older model. http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Optical-Gaming-High-Precision-Engine/dp/B0055QZ216/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1396290205&amp;sr=8-7&amp;keywords=g400s
I've also had it since 2012 but only use it in summers because I'm in Michigan for college but my computer is at home (in NY)
I've been through a slew of keyboards trying to find one I enjoy. I don't need the cherry switches and such that I've got at home.
At work I use a Logitech Illuminated Keyboard and a Logitech G400 mouse. The G400 is an updated to the old and highly regarded MX518.
> Pressing L1 or Shift (or whatever key you bind it to) to block takes exactly the same amount of time.
You're out of you depth here because this is demonstrably false. Fingers have different levels of mobility with the pinky having the worst. While playing a trill on the piano the pianist may find that it becomes increasingly difficult to execute a trill including the weak fingers of the hand (3, 4 and 5), with a trill consisting of 4 and 5 being the hardest. The thumb and forefinger are the easiest. There is no console controller that uses your pinky to press a button and the thumb gets the most action by mindful design. Even the Power Glove did not measure flexure of the pinky. Now look at this mouse. Do you see the thumb buttons? The difference is even greater considering the mouse will be used in the dominant hand.
> the controllers bug out a lot if you're playing with a mouse
Moot. lebbers's mouse fix fixes everything. It's the second most popular fix for Dark Souls, the first being Durante's dsfix.
I won't contest the superiority of thumb-stick for movement but not to the extent that it becomes a counterargument for ds being playable without one. The controls have worse issues(1) that are not solved by connecting a controller. I find it hard to believe 8-directional movement is a deal-breaker for you if this isn't.
I too was extremely disappointed with the Razer Deathadder's soft mushy clicking coming from the legendary Logitech MX518 that lasted me at 6 years (unlike my shitty deathadder of 1 year).
If you like the Deathadders weight and size, then look into the MX518, or the newer versions of it such as the G400s. Ihaven't tried the g400S, but if it's clicking feel is anything like it's predecessors then it should be good.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G400s-Optical-Gaming-910-003589/dp/B00BCEK2LA/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
Discontinued
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Performance-Optical-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B0007Z1M50
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Optical-Gaming-High-Precision-910-002277/dp/B0055QZ216/ref=pd_sim_e_3
MORAL OF THE STORY: NEVER EVER BUY RAZER SHIT UNLESS IT'S THEIR MOUSEPADS
I use the mx518 which is the same thing as the g400 (literally) as do 5 of my sc2 buddies. It's very comfortable, and only $35 on amazon :)
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Optical-Gaming-High-Precision-910-002277/dp/B0055QZ216/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
Most agreeable was the Logitech MX518 (no longer manufactured). The new version of that mouse is the Logitech G400
My personal favorite? This cheap Microsoft optical mouse. Wish I could explain why, but it just works for me.
Asus VH236H Monitor
Logitech G400 Mouse (this is the updated version of the MX518)
Logitech K200 Keyboard
(Alternate Keyboard: Sidewinder X4)
I was about to recommend my favorite mouse, the Logitech MX 518, but apparently it's been discontinued, so consider its replacement: the G400.
As for keyboards... lately I've been using a Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000. It looks nice to me, but it's not a particularly great gaming keyboard, and it's a different brand than the mouse.
Mouse: http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Optical-Gaming-High-Precision-910-002277/dp/B0055QZ216/ref=dp_ob_title_def
Keyboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823839008
Any mid-range Logitech gaming mouse would work great. I use the Logitech G400, which is $37.89 on Amazon. It has a very normal, rounded shape, it's medium-sized, light, multiple dpi settings up to 3600, and has 8 programmable buttons.
It looks like this is the same as your old mouse, just more recent.
In this photo, you will see (bottom-up/left-right):
https://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S89047259/; for providing a surface for most of the following listed after this.
I've been using the Logitech G400 for a couple years now. I like the matte-type finish. I've dropped this thing probably 20-30 times on hardwood floor and it's still working like a champ.
Before that I used the MX518 and before that the MX510.
Is it recomended that I use software to modify the mouse sensitivity? I've never done so and I'm wondering if I'd see any improvement.
Also, what's the difference between the 400 and the 400s?
Logitech G400 is a very decent budget gaming mouse. On the fly DPI switching, programmable buttons and a very comfortable grip, for about $35?
Logitech G400
Honestly, if you can spare an extra $10 dollars, I would recommend this
It's a solid mouse and logitech is a great company both in products and in customer service.
Logitech g400. No unneeded gimmicks, just a very fucking solid mouse. Successor to the MX518.
Had it for over a year now, its as good as it was the day i unpacked it. I use my computer A LOT and the grip pad at the side still doesn't feel nasty or uncomfortable after prolonged usage as it was the case with the Razer mice i had in the past. Should it ever break, i will just buy the same mouse again. Also, it's quite inexpensive.
I've had a Logitech MX518 for nearly a decade and it still performs great. They might be a little bit tougher to find; Logitech has newer models that have slowly phased out the MX518's market.
Edit: Looks like they consider the G400 the new MX518
What is your budget? A mouse pad isn't nearly as important, and you can probably use the one you have now. The Razer DeathAdder is $42 on Amazon. Is that still too much?
A lot of others suggest the Logitech g400, which is around $36 on Amazon.
Logitech G400.
SteelSeries QcK Mousepad.
Filco Majestouch-2 Tenkeyless with Cherry Brown Keys.
Fantastic mouse, unbeatable mechanical keyboard.
If you want a really nice mouse, and don't need a bunch of extra buttons, the Logitech G400 is wonderful. I've been using it since march and have been very happy with it.
You can change the DPI at anytime, even when in game. The software provided on the logitech website allows you to select multiple DPI presets that you can cycle through with the +/- buttons on the mouse.
It isn't a very small mouse, and isn't very large. I guess it would be on the larger side of medium? I'm not sure what you grip style is, but for an averaged sized person using a palm grip, it is very comfortable.
i got the Logitech g500
but i would buy the Logitech g400
Logitech G400
Steelseries Kana
CMStorm Recon
Depends, really. The Logitech G400 is generally considered to be one of the top teir mice and it's like 40 bucks.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Optical-Gaming-High-Precision-910-002277/dp/B0055QZ216
It's not as feature filled as, say, one of Razer's button-encrusted abominations (nevermind you actually have to install their software and log in with an online account to use any of the damned things) but it has a very accurate sensor and enough buttons for 95% of gamers. I have a G5 which is basically that but with a different color scheme and an inferior sensor. I have the forward mouse button bound to Talk in Mumble et al.
The logitech g400
If you're looking for a good, cheap mouse, it's pretty much impossible to beat the Logitech G400 at $30. If you're willing to spend more, look at the Logitech G500 and G9x, Razer Deathadder Black, Mionix Naos 3200 or 5000, Roccat Kova or Kone, or Steelseries Sensei.
I, personally, would go with the G400. it's the upgraded and current version of the MX 518 which is still regarded as a great mouse even despite its age. I personally use a G5 which is getting a little old but still works great after all these years. If you want a great gaming mouse that will last you many years of constant use then go with the G400. Also, I know it's out of your price range, but the G500 would be the next step up.
EDIT: I must also point out that I am partial to these mice that I have listed because I really like the way they feel in my hand because of their shape and size. You need to think about the way that you grip your mouse and what you think will feel best in your hand. If you can, try to go to a store that has at least some of them in stock to feel them yourself. With that in mind, a very large number of people regard these mice as great and comfortable mice to use as you can see from the positive reviews.
Thanks! I actually bought a Logitech (https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0055QZ216/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1) mouse back in 2011 and it was giving me nothing but hassles (and stated turning off...) so I eventually bought the one in the build last year.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0055QZ216/ref=sr_1_2_olp?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1375154027&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=mx+518&amp;condition=new
I've never used a deathadder, but if I could make some recommendations, the Logitech G400 and Perixx MX-2000B are really good mice in my experience. the [G400] (http://amzn.com/B0055QZ216) is particularly liked by the people over at /r/mousereview for its sensor, and it's just a nice looking, minimal mouse. I just got the [Perixx MX-2000B] (http://amzn.com/B0083H4NG4) and while it's a branded version of a mouse that some other companies use, I can tell you it's a very comfortable mouse to use and works well in gaming. Doesn't hurt that it's $31.99 and you get stuff like LED customization and weight tuning.
I would recommend this mouse: http://www.amazon.com/E-3LUE-Type-R-2500DPI-Optical-Black-Gray-Pc/dp/B0095ONNTC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1410015141&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=mazer
Cheap and it feels nice.
http://www.amazon.com/E-3lue-2500DPI-Optical-Black-Gray-EMS140/dp/B0095ONNTC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1395154374&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=mazer+3lue this is the one i ordered no problems with it.
I got a Chinese knock-off of a razor for the same price. Works great.
http://www.amazon.com/E-3lue-2500DPI-Optical-Black-Gray-EMS140/dp/B0095ONNTC/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1394406937&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=mazer+mouse
This is a couple of bucks over your $15, but its worked amazingly well for me.
Mouse
This is my current mouse and it has been great. It's perfect for someone that wants a gaming quality mouse for a normal quality price. The only thing I'd recommend is to go with the wired version. I have the wireless and had to use a USB extender and keep the adapter for the wireless mouse very close to the actual mouse. Have a couple of friends with the wired version and they have no problems whatsoever.
Wireless
Wired
The Mazer mouse series is the best bang for your buck. I've had mine for a year. It works great and I use it for 3D modeling, CAD, and the Adobe suite daily.
My budget mouse
Honestly at that price point it's personally comparable to anything up to $40 above it.
Honestly though, I still believe that unless you have a specific need, any budget mouse is fine, as comfortability is the most important thing. You'll be feeling that thing up all night after all.
How convienent, I was in the market for a mouse.
But I decided to spend a couple more bucks because it's still cheaper than nails and i didn't hear any massive backlash from the internet.
I'm currently using a cheap Mazer mouse that I bought a number of years ago.
As for my mousepad, I'm using a mousepad that I found around my house when I was a lot younger. Everything is very faded and the artist's credit was almost completely gone, but I was able to make out enough to find the picture that was used to make the mousepad.
Preface: I am a complete novice when it comes to computer, mouse, or any tech-related specs.
Currently using this Razer mouse, but the clicks are starting to not register/double click so I'm looking for a new mouse. I honestly have no idea where to even start (tried searching through past posts but it all looks like gibberish) and was wondering if you guys could recommend me something.
Usually stick to League or CS:GO, right-handed mouse, under $50 (what's considered average?), palm grip, and has to have side buttons for forward/back browsing. I don't really game as much as I used to, but does DPI really affect computer usage if you're not playing FPS or mouse intensive games?
This is what I use. I've been using it for about 2 years and it's pretty much perfect. Haven't had any problems whatsoever, and for the price it's super good quality.
I have a nearly identical mouse that I bought for the same reasons. Same case, same blue lights, but it says "Mazer" on the palm rest, which gets a good chuckle out of me every time I see it.
its called the Mazer Type-R
http://www.amazon.com/Mazer-2500DPI-Optical-Black-Gray-EMS140/dp/B0095ONNTC
I have gotten this mouse twice now. The first one lasted me 3 years, and this one is on year 2. For $15, I have to say it is quite amazing. I've had some higher quality mice before, such as Logitech gaming mice. I just got this one on a whim one day and have been quite happy with it since.
Also, the first one the middle click button is what broke. That is why I bought a new one. The cord is braided and every other part of the mouse seems like it was built well.
The processor isn't as good, but chances are you don't need an 8350. You won't notice a difference in gaming performance. Certain tasks such as creating and extracting zip files would be slightly faster with the 8350, and it's better for video editing. I'd recommend going with a 6300 over the 8350 simply because you probably don't need it.
The SSD is a nice addition. It'll cut down on boot time significantly as well as program load time.
Motherboard is probably better.
Of course, he didn't include a keyboard/mouse or speakers... Those speakers won't be very good, but if you want to save money they'll serve fine.
For a keyboard, I'd recommend the Sidewinder X4. It's backlit, quiet, and fantastic to type on.
For mouse, my current one is around $50 so I won't recommend that (it's a CM Storm Advance Sentinel II if you're interested, it's a great mouse). Instead, I'd say get either this one or this for a little bit more. I haven't used either, but they both have the Avago sensor, which is what I have. It has excellent sensitivity. They're Chinese knockoffs of other products (I believe the first one is based on the Razer Deathadder). AFAIK they're the best for the price, but don't expect any customer service.
Edit - take a look at this gaming CPU hierarchy. You can see that the 6300 and 8350 are only a tier apart. You won't notice a difference unless it's 3 tiers or more.
I bought this back in 2014 and it's scroll wheel barely crapped out on me last month. It's served me pretty well, considering I never had a gaming mouse before this one.
I have that mouse I really like it the only thing I wish was better was the polling is only 500hz so aiming finely could be a little more smooth but for the price it has DEFIANTLY exceed expectations. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0095ONNTC/ref=oh_details_o09_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
I had my razer naga give out on the right mouse button and sometimes it would not click.
Bought this Mazer (I spelt that right) for $20 and it is working fine for a few months now. It came with chinese on the box but it's a mouse and it works fine.
I've had this Chinese made mouse for over a year. It's a rip off of razer but it's actually nicer, it's caled Mazer lol
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0095ONNTC/ref=pd_aw_sims_1?pi=SL500_SS115&amp;simLd=1
Easy lover
2. What is the link to your wishlist?
3. Mouse
http://www.amazon.com/E-3lue-E-Blue-2-4GHz-Wireless-Optical/dp/B00DPC015E/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1406429974&amp;sr=8-4&amp;keywords=gaming+mouse --wireless-- or --wired-- http://www.amazon.com/ZPS-Button-Optical-Wired-Gaming/dp/B00IFRH6JS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1406429974&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=gaming+mouse
I have this mouse. Now, I know it's wireless, but I've actually gotten better at shooters.
I've been fairly impressed by this guy:
Mazer Whatever
I've had mine for a few years, if you keep the lights off the battery last a few months on AA with heavy use. No noticeable lag. Comfortable for my big hands. Only real complaint is the thumb "support" isn't great. Needs to be bigger and further forward.
My specialty, cheap gaming peripherals!
Here are some of my recommendations:
E-3lue Mazer II wireless
Cheap but good Anker mouse
Cheaper alternative to the Razer Naga
For higher range mice, in the 50-100$ range, I'd suggest either sticking with Logitech or Razer. I personally use a Logitech G9X mouse, considered by a lot of people (myself included) to be THE BEST gaming mouse ever made, however it only has 5 buttons and currently costs over 180$.
However, this is one that I'm eyeballing pretty hard, since it has a ton of buttons and is wireless, thus easier to take with me travelling.
My biggest suggestion, however, is to find a mouse that has interchangeable weights. I know it sounds like a silly gimmick, but by having different weights you can fine-tune your mouse to different playstyles and games. A heavier mouse allows for more precision (think long range sniper shots), whereas a lighter mouse allows for better reaction time. Once you use a weighted mouse it's very hard to go back.
This. It eats batteries if you forget to turn it off though.
Sweet, and it would be cool to see a video that goes in-depth on the mouse, most reviews of it just say it looks cool. I'm kind of picky with my mice but for $20 I ought to pick it up just to see how it feels.
Also I'm seeing two slightly different mice on Amazon, both the same price but looks differ. I'm pretty sure this is on the you received and there's this one that has a more simple design. Are they the same with a slightly difference skin or completely different.
You really dont need a gaming keyboard. If you have a really old shitty keyboard then yes but if you are comfortable with the one right now then dont wast your money on one. However, A mouse is very important because the sensors are much better than whatever your playing on right now. I recomend you find the one with the best sensor like a zowie that is pretty in expensive. Or for a cheaper option you can get a E-Blue mazer off amazon for 20 bucks. I have the wired version and it out performs razer. This is a wireless version of the mouse but people are not complaining about any lag so I would go ahead and buy it.
LINK:http://www.amazon.com/E-3lue-E-Blue-2-4GHz-Wireless-Optical/dp/B00DPC015E
Any mouse is compatible just cheap mouses are not good either way. Get some thing 20ish for quality. https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Mazer-Wireless-Gaming-EMS601BKAA-NF/dp/B00DPC015E
I have my mouse settings in control panel to max. In game I have camera decel at max and camera speed at 30. If it's still bad try a different mouse.
(BAD MOUSE EXAMPLE!)
http://www.amazon.com/E-3lue-E-Blue-2-4GHz-Wireless-Optical/dp/B00DPC015E/ref=sr_1_6?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1413719946&amp;sr=1-6&amp;keywords=mouse
I bought this mouse on amazon and its not smooth at all compared to my current razer mouse.
Fantastic mouse:
http://www.amazon.com/E-3lue-E-Blue-2-4GHz-Wireless-Optical/dp/B00DPC015E/ref=sr_1_6?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1419836317&amp;sr=1-6&amp;keywords=mouse
Fantastic keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Karura-Keyboard-Switchable-Backlight/dp/B00LSGKEC4/ref=sr_1_9?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1419836351&amp;sr=1-9&amp;keywords=keyboard
Heres a good combo if you want it:
http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1419836351&amp;sr=1-5&amp;keywords=keyboard
http://www.amazon.com/E-3lue-E-Blue-2-4GHz-Wireless-Optical/dp/B00DPC015E
Have not tried it myself, but I heard that it's a good mouse + its $23
3)Your parents.
I have a Logitech g500 myself, but I also have a Mazer II, its a decent gaming mouse, and I'm using it right now as a dedicated mouse for my laptop. For a low price of $25 on amazon you get a wireless 2500 max DPI gaming mouse that glows. (If you're into that sort of thing, or not because you can turn the glow off)
http://www.amazon.com/E-3lue-E-Blue-2-4GHz-Wireless-Optical/dp/B00DPC015E/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1382438242&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=mazer
for now, this: E-Blue Mazer II 2500 DPI Wireless Gaming Mouse (EMS601BKAA-NF) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DPC015E/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_gxWAwbX0FZ3EG
it's pretty solid considering the price and being wireless. but I'm looking to upgrade to the Logitech G502 very soon. one of the best gaming mice on the market at an affordable price
E-Blue Mazer II 2500 DPI Wireless Gaming Mouse (EMS601BKAA-NF)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DPC015E/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_5Dbgyb3A5E9SX
I love this thing. Had it for two years, can change the sensitivity, extra buttons for actives of items. This thing is great! Cheap, reliable. I was desperate for a mouse and bought his and fell in love. Highly recommend, it's perfect for League.
If he wants a cheap wireless gaming mouse, this might be the one for him.
I have an E-3lue Cobra, the quality is actually pretty good for the price. I switched to a Logitech G600 because I needed more buttons though. My brother has the Cobra now, he's playing Planetside 2 and CS:GO and he's happy with it.
For what it's worth, I have a severe palm grip. It's to the point I can't use any mouse that isn't specifically for a palm grip. The DA is one of the more comfortable ones I've used but I switched it out to use this. It's the most comfortable mouse I've used. There is a wired version as well (I have both wired and wireless) but be aware you cannot turn the LEDs off on the wired version.
Unfortunately I'm not home at the moment but here's the amazon link for the wireless version of it
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00DPC015E/
E-3lue, for the price, the absolute best mouse I have ever used. Solid construction, feels nice in the hand, too!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DPC015E/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
If you are going to use a gtx 770 I would upgrade the power supply unit. the 750W unit ZusunicStudio recommended is probably what you need, though you could try and get away with a 600w power supply. I would actually stick with the msi 270X because for your budget it would save you about 70 dollars and it will still give you good performance. I also changed the chip to an FX-8320 because it would be a better chip overall and some of the newer games will have an FX-8000 series chip as "recommended" now. With that price you still have money to buy your software from /r/softwareswap. My friend also has this mouse and its surprisingly good for the price. He's had it since december and it hasnt broken down yet, so thats something. You should check it out if you want. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DPC015E/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ANESJCTJGZ2BX
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Mazer e3-blue. Wireless, comfortable flatter design, only two programmable buttons, 4 different dpi settings with click of a button, only costs about $20.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00DPC015E?pc_redir=1405567228&amp;robot_redir=1
I got this one. They also have a wireless version from this brand that's the Amazon Choice.
Might want to look at ergonomic mice, as the way they are held only the length of your fingers really matter.
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https://www.amazon.com/Anker-AK-98ANWVM-UBA-Wireless-Vertical-Ergonomic/dp/B00BIFNTMC/
Wired version: https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Ergonomic-Optical-Vertical-Buttons/dp/B00FPAVUHC
With regards to 'shark fin looking mice', You give this a try for $13 - https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Ergonomic-Optical-Vertical-Buttons/dp/B00FPAVUHC
It's been a relief to my wrist.
Depends what you use it for. It's OK, but the mouse will be absolutely awful for gaming. The platform by design is not something you can put your arm weight on - it requires more of a floating wrist, which is actually better in general for ergonomics. It's pretty infuriating to work with if you require (or are used to) high precision. For me, it's like having to use a phone keyboard over a regular one. I touch type in the 120+ range, and having to rely on autocorrect that is wrong 50%+ of the time is extremely inefficient. In a similar sense, just knowing that you can mouse 'better' and having to rely on something that just isn't right really bothers me.
I feel like the location of the sensor may be a little off where it 'feels right' as well, so the mouse cursor behaves slightly different than you'd expect. This is similar to having used centered mouse balls/optical sensors all your life, then switching to a mouse that has it off center under your trigger finger, or something.
This spire mouse looks kind of cheap, tbh. There aren't even any details on the sensor. I have an Anker upright model from Amazon and it has back/forwards buttons:
http://www.amazon.com/Anker%C2%AE-Ergonomic-Optical-Vertical-Buttons/dp/B00FPAVUHC/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1397427788&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=anker+ergo
I'm not sure if it's really helping my wrist, but my issues are on the ulnar side of the wrist, not the generic carpal tunnel issues.
Also what mouse? Unused to have wrist issues until I bought a vertical mouse to keep from having to twist my wrist.
I don't think this is the brand I have, but the same style. Makes a big difference.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FPAVUHC
It's kinda like a mouse on its side, it's a lot better for your wrist but you give up some precision since you move it with your arm moreso than with your wrist
I'm using this one and it's a little funky (probably because it's a cheapo one) but my wrists sure do feel a hell of a lot better if I play like 5 games in a row now
Anker Ergonomic Optical USB Wired Vertical Mouse 1000/1600 DPI, 5 Buttons CE100 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FPAVUHC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_5C0ADbD8ZEEVK
Hey OP! Haven't seen this mentioned yet, but if you don't need a mouse for extremely accurate FPS aiming take a look at the Ankor ergonomic vertical mouse. It's really comfortable, better for your wrist alignment, and this thing has amazing build quality. I've had mine for almost 3 years and besides some minor scuff marks it's in perfect shape. Incredibly cheap for what it is, and checkout them' amazon reviews.
Basically, an ergonomic mouse designed to make your dominant hand to be more at neutral position. Example:
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Ergonomic-Optical-Vertical-Buttons/dp/B00FPAVUHC/ref=mp_s_a_1_7
I had the same problem so I started stretching out my wrist frequently and then found this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GtGmf6Z760 which has helped a lot.
also invest in some simple wrist pads and see if that helps, but the best thing I ever bought was a vertical mouse. The one I linked is what I bought, its only $13 and I alternate between my normal mouse and this one to give my wrist a break, its helped tremendously.
http://www.amazon.com/Anker%C2%AE-Ergonomic-Optical-Vertical-Buttons/dp/B00FPAVUHC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1422118699&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=vertical+mouse
O man! it is so comfortable! I'm shocked no one sells anything like this yet.
Lean back in your chair and rest you arm on you chest across your heart with your trackball in hand. It feels great.
Also, sometimes just resting my arm straight down feels great. Lean a notebook or old shelf against the side of your chair and use that as a mouse surface. It is cumbersome to keep from falling but if the surface had a small hard-shell pocket to rest the mouse when typing it could be great. When using my mouse this way I find the left to right movement doesn't effect me at all. Its much easier to let all the movement happen in your arm. The only thing you are holding up is the weight of the mouse in your fingertips. Pressing the buttons is also helped by gravity.
Also, I am using this mouse which may just take getting used to. I find myself just switching hands and mice before I seem to get used to it though.
I used to get horrible carpal tunnel. Trackballs still forced my wrist flat, didn't change the situation. Next I tried using a wacom, and I was still too lazy. The carpal tunnel just didn't leave.
Finally, I purchased a vertical ergonomic mouse. I cannot praise it enough. It's been two years now, where I've been editing more than I have in my career, and I haven't had pain in my hands/wrist/forearm.
I have the wired and wireless version of this Anker Mouse.
For $14, even if it doesn't work, it won't drain the bank. It takes about a week to get used it. You'll keep knocking the mouse over as you go for your short keys, but it doesn't take long to adapt.
Also, try to experiment with different arm positions. I'm right handed, but when I work my mouse is closer to my left hand, between me and the keyboard. I rest my elbow on my desk, and place my arm almost parallel to my body/keyboard. Push your keyboard as far back as you can so you can rest your left elbow on the desk, too. Here's a very detailed and accurate bird's eye view of my editing setup.
Basically, I try to avoid resting on my forearms. If my elbows hang off my desk, the weight of my arm will leverage my forearms/wrists/hands. Inevitably, I'll lift my forearms off my desk and place that pressure directly on my wrists. Anytime you bend your wrist upwards, that'll cause joint pain.
I would also suggest an ergonomic keyboard. I've been using this one, and I love it. Some people don't like chicklet keys, though.
Ergonomic keyboards will definitely take time to get used to, but they are, by far, the most comfortable way to type. Shortkeys are steep learning curve there, though.
I also love standing desks, but as a freelancer I don't typically have that option. The same is true with chairs. To compensate, I try to keep my shoulders back and back straight, but it's a constant struggle.
http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Ergonomic-Optical-Vertical-Buttons/dp/B00FPAVUHC/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1453728112&amp;sr=8-6&amp;keywords=anker+mouse
Handshake mouse really helped my hand strain. Only took me 1 day to get used to it. Can never go back to a regular mouse now. I got the cheap 15 dollar one off amazon, but will look to get a higher end one when this one goes out.
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Ergonomic-Optical-Vertical-Buttons/dp/B00FPAVUHC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1526332258&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=handshake+mouse
im choosing betweem mice and i just wanna know wich of the 2 is the best. my preference goes to the first one but wich would you choose? thanks :)
this one
or this one
This is an amazing mouse and it's going for really cheap. Check it out!
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00G5T1Z5Y
I don't know about keyboard though
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Daedalus-Performance-Gaming-910-004380/dp/B00TKFD51M -$50
http://www.amazon.com/Programmable-Customizable-Cartridges-Precision-Adjustable/dp/B00G5T1Z5Y -$25
http://www.amazon.com/Redragon-CENTROPHORUS-2000-Gaming-Buttons-Weight-Tuning/dp/B00HTK1NCS -$15
Hope this helps. I have tried all three in the past, and would recommend them for budget and up.
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IMO the blue one
This is actually very solid.
I currently use this mouse and just adore it. I really like the LEDs more than I should, and the textured thumb buttons are a big plus so I can tell which one is which.
http://www.amazon.com/SHARKK%C2%AE-Programmable-Cartridges-Precision-Adjutsable/dp/B00G5T1Z5Y
This is the one I use OP. I like it pretty well. I've had it for about 4.5 months now. The DPI adjustment buttons seem a bit less responsive than they were initially (takes 2 clicks sometimes). And the texture on the surface seems to leave the mouse dirtier than a normal mouse if you're hands aren't perfectly clean, but it's easy enough to wipe down. Overall, for paying as little as I did, I'm pretty happy with it.
$13 up to 3500 DPI, no required software, included software is good, $13
Sharkk wired gaming mouse
it has good enough reviews and is cheap, and programmable buttons sound like they'll really help with some things. my current mouse is some Logitech mouse without any special buttons. It's probably about 4-5 years old, and it only started double-clicking/not holding clicks in the past few weeks. I actually really like its shape too, and that's one thing I might not like about the sharkk right away
I have this
Bought it as a temp replacement when RMAing my mouse, barely seen any use. Idk if you're interested in this though.
I have this, it has lasted me 3 years of heavy use and abuse with no mouse-pad for most of it. The software is horrible but the mouse itself has served me just fine. Though I haven't had much opportunity to try anything more premium, and no need yet. Paid about 23 for it with shipping.
I personally have this and I love it
I dunno if you need those buttons, but I use this. It's a great mouse for $14. (I know that sounds impossible but it's true).
A friend of mine is getting this, and it has good ratings! Might be worth a look: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00G5T1Z5Y
I have this mouse bit cheaper multi-colored never steered me wrong.
$13.99 on Amazon. I bought this about 6 months ago figuring I couldn't lose, and this mouse is amazing for the price.
SHARKK® Wired Gaming Mouse With Programmable Buttons And Weight Tuning Cartridges, High Precision Optical Mouse With Adjutsable DPI Up To 3500
I got one of these for my laptop and then another to replace my expensive Logitech at home. $14, weighted, lighted, gaming mouse.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00G5T1Z5Y/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/MIONIX-Multi-Color-Ergonomic-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00HGKQ6VY/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1485119797&amp;sr=8-4&amp;keywords=Mionix+mouse
There's the one I use. :3
Mionix Naos 7000. Great mouse, used it for years.
https://www.amazon.com/MIONIX-Multi-Color-Ergonomic-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00HGKQ6VY
PMW-3310 sensor so almost the best sensor out there, it's a little heavier than the super gamer light mice at 147g (that's still fairly light overall and is just the weight including the cable, which the g303 you ahve is 137g with cable) but it has the ergonomic shape you are looking for and the rubber surface is great in keeping you from sweating and giving you better grip for lifts.
I just switched from the Death Adder Chroma to the Mionix Naos 7000 and it is the most comfortable mouse I have ever used when this one breaks im going to immediately buy another one its that good.
naos 7000
I've been using this guy for about four years or so. Holy shit is it comfortable, I don't even have to grip my mouse very much. My hand pretty much just rests perfectly on it. I've bought two and will probably get another one after this one dies.
EDIT: Did't see the part about a multi-button mouse.
This may be not what your looking for, but the Naos 7000 could be an option. It is a right handed mouse like the deathadder but is alot bigger and wider, it fits all of my fingers, which the deathadder didn't (for me atleast). It also has a really good optical sensor and great build quality.
the g502 has a Pixart PMW 3366DM sensor which is a bit better than the ADNS 9800 in the m65. its got a better scrollwheel with side scrolling and infinite scroll. plus more programmable buttons.
the g600 is a great mouse for MOBAs and MMOs it also uses the ADNS 9800. for the price its got a great feature set.
the mionix naos 7000 might be something to consider. big, wide comfortable mouse with pinky support and a PixArt PMW 3310DH which is pretty much the best sensor on the market right now.
this video gives a good rundown on a lot of the more popular mice.
mionix naos 7000 with PMW 3310 optical sensor. Not one single issue and i've been using it for the past 3 years.
I've heard the the coating wears off after a while, so that's one issue.
My personal issue with it is the LED cannot be switched off and the color is based on the set DPI step. Not cool.
I ended up getting this mouse instead if you're interested. There's also an ambidextrous version call the Mionix AVIOR.
Minoix Naos 7000?
Mionix NAOS. I palm my mouse and it rests so comfortably on it.
https://www.amazon.com/MIONIX-Multi-Color-Ergonomic-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00HGKQ6VY
First I got one of these:
obutto r3volution
Then I got one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/MIONIX-Multi-Color-Ergonomic-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00HGKQ6VY
No more Carpal... Oh, and stretch your fingers and wrist every 60 minutes or so.
Oh, and these help too.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0106D1DCY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
They're thin and provide a bit of compression which helps.
https://www.amazon.com/MIONIX-Multi-Color-Ergonomic-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00HGKQ6VY apply the $5 coupon get it BNIB for $35 from amazon right now. I pulled it out last night to remember why i didn't stick with it, the pinky rest protrudes a little to far, but the ring finger one feels nice! if your hand was big enough though i could see it being more comfortable. But it's really nice besides that, it's pretty big. Lemme know if you want some comparison shots once i'm home.
I wholeheartedly recommend the Mionix Naos as a replacement for the deathadder.
I'm 25 -- a programmer by day and a gamer by night. I developed really severe tendonitis 2 years ago. Imagine a line of fire from the top of your hands all to the way up your arms and over your shoulder...yeah, that was me. It started with pain on the top of my hands and crept up due to misunderstanding the causal mechanisms. Don't be me.
Feel free to DM me if you have questions. Love to help
microsoft optical mouse
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-D66-00029-Wheel-Mouse-Optical/dp/B00006B7HB/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1406423927&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=microsoft+optical+mouse
Microsoft IntelliMouse Optical 1.1A it's a very reliable mouse, it's also light and sturdy.
Same here. I got the Pro for home and this 203 for work since it fits my style better. I used to use the MS Optical Wheel mouse and this mouse reminds me of how I used to hold that one, but with improvements. The deathadder elite was comfortable at first, but not as precise when I needed to go extra claw-like with my fingertips.
https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-D66-00029-Wheel-Mouse-Optical/dp/B00006B7HB/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1510245724&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=microsoft+1.1+mouse
For < $30 you can't really go wrong with this:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00006B7HB?tag=li-org-per-mon-us-20
EDIT: Only problem is the DPI wich is very low.
Make sure you get a wired mouse that is comfortable for you. There is no need to spend more than $50 unless you want programmable macros and bloatware. DPI, in general, is a marketing gimmick and doesn't really affect the performance of the mouse a whole lot. It's about consistent tracking and how it feels in your hand.
That being said if you have a wired mouse that you're comfortable using right now, stick with it. No reason to change what works.
Don't overlook a decent mouse pad. Whichever mouse you buy, there is likely an inexpensive soft pad ($20 or under) that will work with it. Get one. It will give you a consistent tracking surface. SteelSeries and Xtrac both make pretty nice soft pads. Hard pads are more expensive and generally have a narrower range of compatibility, so check before you buy to see if it works with your mouse.
Play on a medium/low sensitivity. Start by bottoming out your sensitivity, then slowly move it up until you can move comfortably. Do not start from the top and work your way down. You will be moving your mouse more, but you will be more accurate and consistent in your mouse movement in the long-run.
I also highly suggest you use raw mouse input in-game if you are not already. Mouse acceleration is baaaaad for developing consistent movement/accuracy. If you don't trust the game to do it for you (or you play other FPS games that do not support raw mouse input), check out this fix to remove all mouse acceleration in Windows 7.
FPS shouldn't affect your accuracy too much as long as it's consistent. Play some TDM if you want to get used to just running around aiming and shooting, then move back to conquest/rush once you're comfortable. You'll get better with time ;)
I have this mouse, I know it's at least 13 years old
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-D66-00029-Wheel-Mouse-Optical/dp/B00006B7HB
I'm testing out a G502 right now! The thing is mostly comfortable, but it rides significantly higher than this old hunk o' junk that I'm used to (and while according to Amazon my current mouse is heavier than the G502, that couldn't be further from the truth; the G502 is noticeably heavier than the Microsoft mouse).
I'm looking to maybe get a Corsair Sabre to match my K70 LUX RGB I'll be getting soon... hopefully my local Best Buy has one so I can give it a test run.
Are those buttons on the side? Because I have a mouse that looks EXACTLY the same without the side parts.
This one.
I actually broke mine a few years back and bought the exact same one; I'm too attached to it.
I'm currently using my Wheel Mouse Optical. Still holds up.
It's older, it's the Intellimouse's dad.
The Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical
What would you recommend for someone looking to upgrade from this? It's a super lightweight mouse that's just been really awesome for me- I've used the same model for like a decade and a half now.
This Microsoft optical wheel mouse is a tank. Back in the early 2000s, it survived almost 10 years of Counterstrike addiction from my brother, and 3 years from me. He and I beat on this mouse and it never quit:
https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-D66-00029-Wheel-Mouse-Optical/dp/B00006B7HB
Check out the 2nd review from 'Alec Lee'. Same experience we had. 15+ years of abuse
I've had this for years and wouldn't change it for any other mice. I've tried but always go back to it
https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-D66-00029-Wheel-Mouse-Optical/dp/B00006B7HB
I had [this one without the extra buttons.] (https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-D66-00029-Wheel-Mouse-Optical/dp/B00006B7HB/ref=pd_sim_147_2?_encoding=UTF8&amp;pd_rd_i=B00006B7HB&amp;pd_rd_r=5ATJ506C8WND2NS31ZDN&amp;pd_rd_w=Fk9jt&amp;pd_rd_wg=2BxBc&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=5ATJ506C8WND2NS31ZDN) It was my first non-ball mouse and it was AMAZING. I used it for about 9 years until the left click just died.
I still have an all black Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard stored away, never know when you might need a PS/2 keyboard.
I've actually been thinking about just going retro and buying one of those. Sadly, they aren't that cheap, though. If you buy used - certainly. But new ones are still $20-30+. As an example, here's an Amazon listing for that mouse:
https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-D66-00029-Wheel-Mouse-Optical/dp/B00006B7HB
The best one as far as price/performance goes is still this one.
Yeah you can get a Razer Deathadder or a MX518, but you're paying more for no real reason other than the brand.
I'm using a microsoft laser mouse (laser was a HUGE deal when my dad bought it, upgrading from a ball mouse) that's 16 or so years old. It's been a great mouse for how many years we have used it but it has an issue of disconnecting and reconnecting now. Not sure exactly why this happens. It has worked without a problem until about a year ago it started to sometimes disconnect and reconnect.
all you need is one of these bad boys now: https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-D66-00029-Wheel-Mouse-Optical/dp/B00006B7HB
Dude, all you need is a WMO.
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-D66-00029-Wheel-Mouse-Optical/dp/B00006B7HB/ref=sr_1_9?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1333691063&amp;sr=1-9
~$15 with shipping and you'll never ever need a new mouse again.
Don't use a laser mouse for fps games, it's not a good idea, the sensors have acceleration issues.
If you use high sensitivity and want a cheap mouse, something like this might interest you.
I have http://amzn.com/B00006B7HB...I want a new mouse with new features but I love how raw it feels. I am scared to get a new one with all the acceleration crap. I want the Sensei Wireless for all the features but I don't know if I want the laser or the sensor in it.
I meant basic more as in it didn't come with a lot of features and was just laying around somewhere when I started using it. I wasn't entirely sure if this mouse was the revered one anyway. I was thinking about picking up this mouse to try out:
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-B75-00113-Intellimouse-Explorer-3-0/dp/B000GOUE7O
You're wrong. Even if it does support higher DPI they almost always keep it set at 400-800.
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-B75-00113-Intellimouse-Explorer-3-0/dp/B000GOUE7O/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1312649472&amp;sr=8-3
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-D58-00026-Intellimouse-Optical-Mouse/dp/B00005TQ08/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1312665417&amp;sr=8-1
These used to be (and maybe still are, Razor Deathadder (it has no built in correction I believe) and MX518 have taken popularity as well, but once again they are usually left to 400-800 DPI, basically Optical Mice are better than Laser's iirc, I'll try to find an article) the most popular gaming mice for CS 1.6, and Quake.
The same thing?
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-B75-00113-Intellimouse-Explorer-3-0/dp/B000GOUE7O
IME 3.0
Will work better than all those Razer mice, its DPI is pretty low (450) but you should be okay, just enable raw input and get used with a big mousepad.
i personally use
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-B75-00113-Intellimouse-Explorer-3-0/dp/B000GOUE7O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1414628303&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=intellimouse+explorer+3.0
but other popular choices are
Deathadder
zowie ec1 evo
steelseries sensei
Corsair raptor M30 is a nice mouse.
Also, tadaa
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-B75-00113-Intellimouse-Explorer-3-0/dp/B000GOUE7O/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1341959243&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=intellimouse+explorer+3.0
I've gone through three of these things. My first one developed a double-clicking issue so I bought a new one to replace it. When that one failed in the same way, some number of years later, I called Microsoft and they sent me a brand new one for free. No questions asked. That's a hell of a warranty.
I think at one point they even discontinued and then re-released these due to high demand. Not sure if they are still in production, but new stock does seem to be a pretty easily purchased.
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-B75-00113-Intellimouse-Explorer-3-0/dp/B000GOUE7O
I don't think I'll ever use another mouse so long as these remain for sale.
If you use mice at all. This mouse is great:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001F42MKG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_2MMkDbZ44NNR9
It's super comfy to use and I've never had wrist pain with it.
It's got some minor maintenance (popping out the ball to wipe it every week or two with heavy usage).
Only drawback is that it doesn't have a mousewheel...
Though, a program called NeatMouse can emulate a mousewheel to keyboard presses if you really need one for some reason.
some aren't they are basically a scroll ball, like this one.
the "Logitech Trackman Marble Mouse"
Logitech Trackman Marble Trackball Mouse - Wired USB Ergonomic Mouse for Computers, with 4 Programmable Buttons, Dark Gray https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001F42MKG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_t48yDbM4JA1D0
Here's a free one that seems to work pretty well: https://dictation.io/ Just go to the page and click "start recording."
There's also a Chrome addon for that app. Here's an article on it.
I think you can likely use another web-based editor with the Chrome addon to finish your works.
If that doesn't work out for you, you may also be able to find someone to transcribe regular audio recordings for you. That'll likely cost money though.
One other thing, in case it helps, to protect my wrists, I've been using the Microsoft Ergonomic Keyboard 4000, and this Logitech Marble mouse (there seems to be a new version of that mouse that's a lot cheaper, for some reason.) I'm not sure if it'll help you specifically, but they do seem to help me with my wrists..
Hopefully this helps. Good to hear that you're continuing with your writing!
This one? They still make it. I've been using one since I was a kid and doubt I'll ever be as accurate and fast with one you have to slide across a surface and pick up to reset the position. I get a new one every few years, and it's been my secret weapon for FPS games and stuff like Photoshop. Plus, with a little program called MarbleScroll, the lack of scroll wheel is a non-issue as it turns the ball into a scroll wheel while clicking one of the middle buttons. Works across the entire system unlike other solutions I've seen. I swear by this thing, and only ever see hate from people talking about the trackballs you control with your thumb - and I agree, those are terrible, lol
Just a couple of suggestions.
Logitech Trackman
Vertical Mouse
My thoughts are basically is to change it up. With the vertical mouse especially, you're fingers would no longer be slamming the mouse against the table, but against air which would greatly reduce the impact on the mouse.
they are not all the same
the Logitech trackman is the one u want
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Trackman-Marble-Four-Button-Programmable/dp/B001F42MKG
Thank you for your very thorough response, BlahmanTT! This really helped a lot and I think I will purchase the Elecom Huge on Amazon later today to give it a try. I should note I also use Linux, so the re-mapping you mention definitely caught my attention - don't suppose you have details to help me avoid headaches with this later? With that said though, I am still trying to visualize how exactly you re-mapped the EM's buttons. It sounds like you did experience some "stretching" issues to be able to use the LMB and RMB, hence re-bindings. I play games where I use the LMB and RMB a lot quickly back-to-back, so any more clarity you can offer around this topic, would really help me. Like, are you operating LMB --and-- RMB with your thumb? I should note, with the trackman marble mouse I use, I'm using thumb for LMB, ring-finger for RMB, and my index+middle fingers to move the trackball, so I'm already a two-finger ball operator (although, I frequently lift either my index finger or middle finger completely off the ball for certain movements. And, for non-gaming [or gaming with no RMB needs], I use my index-through-ring fingers to operate the ball.).
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I included links to both products in question, to aide discussion for visualizing. I see the buttons on the Elecom Huge are actually labelled on Amazon, so perhaps you specify which you've bound to what function, to make the mouse ergonomic for you? And if, had you left the default button bindings alone, if you felt it still would have been ergonomic/enjoyable to use?
I have an old Trackball, much better than a trackpad, and I get speed, precision, and it uses little space. https://www.amazon.ca/Logitech-910-000806-Trackman-Marble-Mouse/dp/B001F42MKG/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=trackball&qid=1559239047&s=gateway&sr=8-9
Might get buried, but i use a trackball https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Trackman-Marble-Four-Button-Programmable/dp/B001F42MKG
It's the only mouse I've used for 15 years. They last a long time if not raged at.
This would be the easiest mouse for having no index finger, as it's not required at all.
I actually use a trackball mouse + gel mousepad, so my wrist doesn't move at all: it takes a while to get used to it, but after 3 months or so I could game in FPS's just like I could with a normal mouse.
This is the trackball mouse I used to use , however the right button stopped working after 5 years and they are out of production, and the only new trackball mice Logitech makes are wireless (which I am not a fan of) or this Marble mouse , which I found just terrible awkward for gaming. So now I have the Sanwa Trackball . I had to tweak the windows mouse settings to lower the cursor speed to about 60%, it's really, really fast by default.
edit: also, I really hope to one day became a great sc2 player only for the lols that when twitch fans will ask me 'what keyboard and mouse do you use' I can reply with 'Microsoft Ergonomic 4000 and Japanese Trackball'.
Logitech Trackman Marble Mouse and Microsoft Wired Keyboard 500 keyboard. Lasted me 8 years of WoW and twitch shooters with no problems.
a much easier solution for carpal tunnel than breaking eula is to use a giant trackball mouse. No wrist movement needed, no carpal tunnel. all motions finely controlled with minimal movement by fingers. this kind of mouse is actually recommended to people with carpal tunnel and actually addresses the problem of a bad wrist rather than a partial workaround. is good enough even for competitive fps gaming.
I like logictech's trackball. Trackballs are great for using you laptop anywhere a mouse is impractical. I bought this trackball 2 years ago and dropped it on the floor several times and still works like a champ. I also know this woman where my father works who own the exact same one since I was like 5(I'm 21) so its definitively a close BIFL . http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-000806-Trackman-Marble-Mouse/dp/B001F42MKG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1375457514&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=logitech+trackball
this gives you anxiety?
A little more info on the ball. This may not be the specific trackball, as many used red balls with that pattern as they were great for the sensor to detect.
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Trackman-Marble-Four-Button-Programmable/dp/B001F42MKG
You can still get the Trackman Marble. Is cordless that huge a deal?
Yeah I have no idea why someone would buy a thumb trackball when these are almost infinitely more comfortable.
I humbly recommend this one as a replacement if you can put up with a wire.
You need more than 1 Sq. foot for mouse use? I move my mouse a few inches in any direction at most.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-000806-Trackman-Marble-Mouse/dp/B001F42MKG
I've been using one of these since i've started a few years ago. I only use trackballs for first person shooters though. I use conventional mice for browsing the internet and League of Legends.
There are trackpads and trackballs, but you still need to click.
bought them in bulk because i feared they aren't produced anymore it is the logitech trackman marble mouse http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001F42MKG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1398191572&amp;sr=8-1&amp;pi=SX200_QL40 but you can still get them dead cheap. i use one up every year with 50-60hours use a week the ball gets small dents after that perfectly usable but i can't stand that
I hate to break it to you, but Logitech wasn't thinking of you. If they were, they wouldn't have discontinued the wired Trackman Wheel, replacing it with a (stupid dumb) wireless model (because you know how annoying it is when the cord for your stationary mouse gets tangled…).
But I'm not bitter or anything. I promise.
I've since switched to the wired Trackman Marble, which I've come to prefer because it can scroll in two dimensions.
I use this. Takes a while to get used to, but it improves your game.
I'd recommend the Logitech M500, it's a great mouse, very comfortable, good performance too, has the thumb buttons and an a great mouse wheel (with the "flywheel" toggle).
It's cheaper too, by being about $30 MSRP.
It doesn't have coloured LEDs on it, however. Personally, I think that's an advantage, but maybe you think it's a disadvantage. That's personal taste.
logitech.com page
Amazon, $23
Newegg, $22,50
The m500 that im currently using has it.
https://www.amazon.ca/Logitech-910-001204-Corded-Mouse-M500/dp/B002B3YCQM
Get one of these or a mouse with similar functions: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001204-Corded-Mouse-M500/dp/B002B3YCQM
Allows a "free" mode for scrolling so you can improve your scrolling game even further! I think I have that mouse for 5 years or something now can confirm that scroll wheel doesn't wear out.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001204-Corded-Mouse-M500/dp/B002B3YCQM
If you just want something comfortable, maybe something like the Logitech m500 (amazon)
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/corded-mouse-m500?crid=7
should be okay for casual games
Hmm, these days, most non-gaming mice have been going wireless, so cheaper wired mce are hard to find, especially one with extra buttons. The Microsoft Comfort mouse is really one of the few choices that are affordable.
The Logitech M500 is one of the closest to your criteria, though it does not have a perfectly symmetrical shape, and is catered to right-handed users.
There are many wireless choices out there that you could easily find, and I reccommend getting those if you really do not want Microsoft Comfort Mice.
However, if you're really looking for high-quality mice under $40, you'll have to go gaming-grade. The Logitech G300S is about $30, and is truly ambidextrous. However, the button placement could be found uncomfortable for some people. Also has way more buttons than what you want.
The other gaming-grade choice is the G302, which has buttons on the right, despite being symmetrical.
EDIT: Found THIS and THIS. I wouldn't put too much trust in these though, you never know if they may have build quality issues.
Alternative method:
PS - you might want to turn off error sounds as every revolution of the mouse wheel will trigger error text if you are in the middle of "casting"/opening a crate.
Had to learn the hard way, sadly. I've been in the pc building scene for 10 years now, and my default goto keyboard is this one from hp simply because I know it will last. The keyboard has been around way longer than I've been building pcs, and they're work horses. I understand if you want something lit up and have extra keys for macros and what not, but I've always been simple, go with what works. And what works for me is a simple hp keyboard. I have a simple wired logitech mouse as well, nothing too fancy, but its shelf life is great. With time comes experience, and you'll find what works for you and stick by it.
I have a wired Logitech mouse and it works great! It's the M500 corded mouse. And it's at a great price on Amazon right now. I really like the extra two little forward and back buttons in the thumb area for web surfing.
As far as remapping keys, I think you can do this with SetPoint from Logitech.
This maybe?
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Corded-Mouse-Hyper-Fast-Scroll/dp/B002B3YCQM/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?keywords=marathon+m500+logitech&amp;qid=1557020525&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-2-fkmr0
Amazon suggests the M500 when you look at the G100s, do you think that's a valid alternative?
My current
I used to run a G600 but it went double-clicky about 8 months into owning it, and the entire thing was a grease-trap. Even yours looks like more cracks and crevices than I want to deal with.
Still waiting on the dishwashable logitech that doesn't doubleclick.
I currently use the logitech m500. definitely cannot image having 3 fingers on the top. I do palm grip, like this. think the shape of the castor comes pretty close to my current.
Logitechs G500Is a little more online, but check retails stores. But it's a phenomenal mouse for its price. Not only good for games, but general computer usage.After reading through it's specs, this mouse is relatively outdated.
D you want a wireless mouse? The Logitech M705 is affordable and well reviewed Want a standard USB wired mouse? Check out the Logitech M500
A 25-35 euro mistake. I've been using the same mouse for years and I swear every time I go buy a new on the price has gone up 5-10 euro.
https://www.mediamarkt.nl/nl/product/_logitech-m500-1308042.html
https://www.newegg.com/global/nl-en/p/N82E16826104328
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B002B3YCQM/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&amp;condition=all
https://www.staples.com/Logitech-M500-Wired-Laser-Mouse-Black-910-001204/product_814634
My new work keyboard is a Corsair mechanical. I think it's this model (http://www.corsair.com/en-us/k70-lux-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-red-led-cherry-mx-red-na), but I'd recommend one of their keyboards that don't have a textured spacebar as that's quickly driving me up a wall. The keys themselves are responsive and surprisingly quiet.
The keyboard I've had forever was a basic Microsoft Multimedia keyboard, but if you want something with some more bells and whistles Logitech all the way. My old roommate gave me two G15s when she upgraded to mechanicals, and I've been rocking one ever since. I keep the other in the closet as a backup in case this one ever dies, but I doubt it will. It looks like the spritual successor is the G710 mechanical (http://www.amzn.com/B009C98NPY), with the G105 being a non mechanical, and thus way cheaper variant (http://www.amzn.com/B00BBUCCKO).
I also recommend their mice. The G400 I have at work and the G500s at home have consistently been one of the most comfortable models I've used. It looks like they no longer make those models, but the general shape of it seems to be the current G403 (http://www.amzn.com/B01KUAMCV4) or M500 (http://www.amzn.com/B002B3YCQM).
That is your opinion, and it isn't wrong just because it differs from mine. However, my opinion is based on the developer of the game supporting an option for players to use. 3rd party mods have been a part of major MMOs for a long time, and the devs either turn a blind eye to them or outright say they support them.
In this case PS2 has a crosshair overlay that is completely allowed by the developers. In your opinion, would using a Razer Naga be exploiting an advantage someone without a Naga doesn't have? I use a mouse similar to this one, and I don't know how I would play if I didn't have the ability to select my weapons specifically from my mouse, without having to use my scroll wheel in a 1v1..
Other people who didn't get a similar mouse don't have that option, so they are forced to try and press the 2 on their number row while strafing in a 1v1. How about knifing? My mouse has a button just to the left of my left click. I have that mapped to quick knife. Is this an unfair advantage over someone who has to press their mouse wheel in?
There are a lot of things that can be pointed to as advantageous, but until they give a true, unfair advantage such as an aimbot, ESP hack, or hitbox manipulation, I don't see it becoming a priority to fix because there is already something that does it better.
3rd party programs step in where the developer can't or won't. DBG obviously can implement this change, but so far they haven't, and I am thinking it is because Recursion already does overlays.
http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Laser-Gaming-Mouse-RZ01-00280100-R3/dp/B002MPPRPO
I planned on going mercenary but now possibly powertech at launch but I went jedi shadow till level 15 and vanguard (speced only into the tank tree) till level 21 in the the weekend betas, i most definitely liked the vanguard better, first off i use this mouse
http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Laser-Gaming-Mouse-RZ01-00280100-R3/dp/B002MPPRPO
which frees me up to use me left hand for only moving, i forget what level i got it but at some level you get ion charge which dealts extra damage and makes you more tanky and if you spec into it it has a chance to slow for 50% for 2 secs, with all my powerful moves being close range, it was insanely awesome against any close range characters, i basically ran around keeping my distance spaming my basic attack while throwing in the occasional high impact bolt then when they got to close throwing a freeze grenade, then doing more of the same then when they finally got close again (thinking they got me and casting all there best spells) I busted out all of my tank moves and then went to town on them with all my awesome close range abilities.
i felt unstoppable against any of the other close range classes, and melee pve bosses where a breeze, it was awesome!
http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Naga-Laser-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B002MPPRPO
More programmable keys than you can shake many many sticks at.
I've heard nothing but good about the deathadder and the naga. The naga is great for the sheer fact of its size and the number of buttons. Price wise the naga is about 75 bucks after shipping and the Deathadder is about 55. Both go for the allegiance to razer and are around 75.
IF you're willing to stray from razer I personally have the logitech mx518. I've had it for years and it's one of the best mice I've ever had the chance of holding. It works well for large hands and has most all of the same buttons as that of the death adder. It's been replaced with the g500 which also had weight control (something neither razers have). It too runs around 50 or so dollars.
Links to all 3:
Razer Naga
Razer Deathadder
G500
Huh, oops. I wasn't actually in the market, but I saw the deal pop up on woot and did a quick search, and only saw the original for 110. Ah well. Is there any difference between those other than the colors?
facepalm
How did I not realize that? I just got [this](http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Naga-Laser-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B002MPPRPO "Yes, I know, overpriced, Razer sucks, don't care. It's freaking sweet.") yesterday and I spent way too much time setting up number press + click macros.
The Razer Naga is excellent both for when I used to play MMOs and now playing starcraft. being able to easily and comfortably utilize 12 hotkeys is great.
I'm looking into it now, which version is best? On Amazon there are four versions. The original is twice as much as the 2012 version.. wtf?
How many buttons are you talking? Like, Razer Naga or Cyborg M.M.O.? These have plenty of buttons...
I used to multi box in WoW - this was my set up.
http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/33805-My-Boxing-Set-up-would-love-some-feedback?p=310241#post310241
It's potentially excessive for controlling a single player, but you'll never want for a keybind.
http://www.amazon.com/Ideazon-ZGP-1000-Fang-Gamepad-by/dp/B000FRW8KS
http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Naga-Laser-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B002MPPRPO
Then what do you do with your items? I have my items bound on keys 1-6 and I use a Razer Naga to quickly use them.
It's hard to tell from the pictures, but I think the problem is that the M317 is meant for a claw grip. If that's the case, then most mice are meant for a palm grip and will fit your needs. However, make sure to check the weight and dimensions. Here's an example that is relatively similar to the M317 (wireless, ambidextrous, Logitech), but not necessarily the right choice for you.
I think a 15 inch Asus F55 is a really good purchase at $530. It comes with excellent specs for the price, looks very sleek and is decently light to carry around at college. It also comes with a good battery life at 6+ hours, and it has a full sized keyboard with a number pad.
For a basic wireless mouse, I just use a Logitech M510 and would recommend it. It's good if you're looking for an average sized mouse. If you're looking for something smaller in your hand, an M325 would be good.
this is my set up and it works well.
Desk
keyboard
mouse
Well, this is one I use with my laptop, and this is the one I use on my desktop.
The former is smaller, and it has the smooth scroll/click scroll toggle on the wheel, so if you're used to middle-clicking the wheel that might not work for you. I think you can program the button under the wheel for middle click though.
The second larger one is really my main mouse. I like it. The buttons are very "clicky" though, requires a solid press, so that may or may not be good for you if you do any gaming. Doesn't bother me but I'm used to it. The wheel on it kind of rocks left to right for horizontal scrolling. I think Apple must have patented certain smooth scrolling wheels because you can't really find a smoothly horizontal scrolling 3rd party mouse (that I'm aware of). So again, takes a little getting used to but it works fine and you can adjust sensitivity/acceleration (on an app by app basis if you like).
Those are the only two I've owned. Literally have fallen on hardwood floors multiple times and they haven't broken in a couple years so I just haven't tried any other ones.
I use this when playing games. Nothing fancy, but it gets the job done, and you'll have money to spare.
ive only had my logitech m510 for a short while now but its pretty comfortable, wireless, and seems pretty durable as ive dropped it repeatedly and still works great and its 30$
The Logitech M510 is the updated version of the mouse I've had for 2 years now, and I think it's the most perfect mouse I could ever ask for. I use it for Starcraft 2 and League of Legends and it performs spectacularly. The only problem I've ever run into is sometimes if it's plugged into my USB 4 port hub, it will skip around a bit, but if it's plugged directly into my macbook pro, it is flawless.
I use the Logitech M510 mouse, its pretty decent for the price.
My experience with the Magic Mouse is that if you have big hands, they might start hurting depending on your computer usage.
If you're not familiar with this mouse, I suggest you to go to the store and try it, I did and hated it. Because its hollow, you don't get thumb rest and holding this mouse is akward, form over function.
Check out Logitech M510, it has everything you want and some more, gotta love 4 programmable buttons! I don't have this particular mouse, but you can't go wrong with Logitech.
Quick tip: use mouse gestures for web browsing (right click + left to go back), so you can utilize programmable buttons more effectively, I have Enter and Delete set up for mine and its been great calorie saver.
How basic are we talking? Can't get much more basic than this mouse: http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/mouse-m100?crid=7.
If you want a combo you can get this:http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/desktop-mk120?crid=27.
If you want something wireless, this will probably do the job: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Large-Mouse-Black/dp/B003NR57BY
If gaming is important, then no this mouse isn't right for you.
However with a lot of gaming mice you'll be looking at a higher price.
For instance I use the Logitech G900. Shit costs $149, but I wanted a Wireless Gaming mouse that worked for claw-grip and I sure got it!
A mouse is going to be one of your most-used peripherals. Don't be afraid to put out a bit more money for it.
Some others to consider:
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Large-Mouse-Black/dp/B003NR57BY/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1491576160&amp;sr=8-10&amp;keywords=mouse
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G300s-Optical-Gaming-910-004360/dp/B00RH6R7C4/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1491576261&amp;sr=8-6&amp;keywords=logitech+wired+mouse
https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Basic-Optical-Mouse-P58-00061/dp/B009SPWCFY/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1491576185&amp;sr=8-10&amp;keywords=wired+mouse (if low price is what you ultimately want)
You can't go wrong with budget Logitech peripherals for KB+M.
Logitech K120 Keyboard: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-920-002478-Keyboard-K120/dp/B003ELVLKU
Logitech M5120 'Large' Mouse: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-M510-Wireless-Large-Mouse/dp/B003NR57BY/ref=pd_sim_147_5?_encoding=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=904DYEFJ6FVW6YJ5V61R
All you really need is for the left mouse button to be under her thumb instead. That would feel pretty natural. Take any mouse with buttons by the thumb like this and either use it's own software to remap the buttons, or I'm fairly sure you could use auto-hotkey to remap it.
Or, if you want to be really fancy, it wouldn't be that hard to take apart a conventional mouse and reassemble it into a 3d printed case made to put the main buttons under the thumb and middle finger. Maybe someone in one of the 3d printing subs, or a local makerworks type shop would take it as a novelty project. Or you could probably pay someone on fiverr to model it and a service like shapeways to print it.
I recently got Logitech M510. I see a lot of people in my office use the same and the reviews in Amazon are favorable as well .
Edit : Amazon has a sale on Logitech mouse today. Logitech M510 Wireless Mouse https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003NR57BY
You know what I want? I want a normal mouse like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001822-M510-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B003NR57BY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1459008562&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=logitech+wireless+mouse
That's wired, has side buttons, a good sensor, and rubberized plastic. I've been trying to find a good fingertip grip mouse to replace the one in the picture and have been having a helluva time trying to find one. I don't understand why it's like I'm asking for something crazy when all I want is a normal shaped mouse with a decent sensor...
You would be incorrect. Logitech makes a very wide variety of mice, I’m not sure how you came to this generalized idea.
My current mouse
Logitech M510 Wireless Computer Mouse https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003NR57BY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_ymNOBbS6YZPWJ
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001822-M510-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B003NR57BY/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1417466832&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=logitech+mouse
I've been using the Logitech M510 for about 5 months with no problems at all. No lag even without a mousepad. It's $25 on Amazon currently - maybe even cheaper elsewhere.
> Logitech m510
this one? https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001822-M510-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B003NR57BY doesn't look big.... hmmm I wish there was a perspective photo near something
I use this one by Logitech and like it a lot. It only has 2 side buttons, but that's enough for me.
Mouse is a m510 brand new and sealed(http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001822-M510-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B003NR57BY).
Speakers were used very rarely over the past 9 months.
Rezound was 10 months old before the LCD stopped working. I recently put on a new glass digitizer. It has 2 stock baterries. Screen prtoectors. And a new case (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0067LG2LW/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00).
I have a Logitech M510 mouse (link) that I love because 1) it's more precise than using my finger on a Trackpad 2) it's way more comfortable than the Magic Mouse and 3) I set up the two side buttons and the top wheel click for Expose, Launchpad, and Mission Control (which is so dope when I really get moving in my workflow and can fly with these buttons).
Also, the
Logitech M510, it's a workhorse and it's affordable: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Mouse-Black-910-001822/dp/B003NR57BY
I held a logitech m 510 yesterday and it felt super comfortable. Can't speak about the sensor though. It's a wireless mouse though so it might not be best, I have an older m 510 and it's held up pretty nicely.
i have one of these Performance MX mice and the switches inside are failing. i've had it less than 2 years. drag and drop is a nightmare. it drops off randomly.
you don't say your budget or what the combo thing was so you'll need to use a receiver with your new mouse thus using a USB port (unless your old combo was a logitech that uses unifying receiver).
so, if you want a new combo, the Logitech mk710 set is quite good. Not sure what you feel about keyboards but I find this one a bit soft for me.
smaller budget? MK320/330.
if you only want a mouse, get a laser one. it'll track on anything, better than optical.
And i've found the cheaper mice from Logitech work flawlessly for years. something like a 510 would work.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&amp;field-keywords=microsoft+wireless+mouse
one of these might fit it.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001822-M510-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B003NR57BY/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1426929753&amp;sr=8-7&amp;keywords=microsoft+wireless+mouse
is ok.
I have to agree the wireless mice are great, especially with the extra weight in them. I use the [Logitech M510] (http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001822-M510-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B003NR57BY)
> Logitech M510 wireless mouse that used to be flawless
The Logitech M510 is a cheap desk mouse, which was never meant to last more than a year of use.
If you really like it, I suggest a replacement - $19 amazon
But before buying,,, check interference with the Dongle. Even a monitor in the way could cause disruption. Try a different dongle. Turn off all other 2.4Ghz & bluetooth devices. Clean the lense.
The Logitech M510. This is a great mouse; I think I saw them at Costco the other day too...
I have heard great things about this in terms of a cheap wireless mouse that's still good for gaming. I just ordered it myself so I can let you know how it is once it comes in next week if you'd like.
those buttons makes me mad/sad when I play agar :<S
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/electronics/detail-page/B003NR57BY_M510_button.jpg
Worth it?
On Amazon.ca, historical pricing by Amazon was $13.62 on Nov 29, 2017.
https://ca.camelcamelcamel.com/Logitech-Wireless-Mouse-Black-910-001822/product/B003NR57BY?context=search
Here's my recommended build for you
But seriously though, even Commando and Witchblade should use at least three buttons (cadence + debuff + heal). A cheap mouse gives you 5 buttons to press.
I had to find out too. I think an Evoluent: http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00427TAIK
Without a doubt: Evoluent Vertical Mouse http://www.amazon.com/Evoluent-VerticalMouse-Regular-Right-VM4R/dp/B00427TAIK
For an experiment, holding your arm out, rotate your hand/wrist to its normal mousing position, and notice how your muscles have to work to maintain this position. This is the definition of "Repetitive Stress". A vertical mouse helps to minimize that motion by keeping your hand in a more neutral vertical position.
Unfortunately the angle that most mice require for use is not the optimal ergonomic angle for our wrists. It requires us to twist our wrist so that our palm is flat on the mouse/table. However, many companies manufacture ergonomic mice which can help alleviate these issues. Here's Microsoft's offereing and an even more ergonomic design called the Evoluent Vertical Mouse. There are others, you just have to find one that fits your needs. Also, using a drawing stylus and a pad can also help transfer over some of the same motions from using physical media to the digital world
EDIT: Also, for free.99 you can make sure that your chair and desk height is in a comfortable position because if your chair is too high or desk to low, then your hand and wrist have to come in at a flexed angle to use the mouse, adding to the stress. (Sort of like this / where the flat part is your hand and the / is your for-arm. It should ideally be _ / where the / is your upper arm, and your hand is parallel with your for-arm.
You could try a vertical mouse and a wrist rest they might take the pressure off your wrist?
After thought - have you tried a vertical mouse, e.g. Evoluent VerticalMouse 4 Right Large
>Will a driving record with two wrecks and a few tickets(no DUIs) bar me from all of those jobs?
Not unless it's like a Geek Squad or similar situation. I worked IT for almost a decade with no car at all and experienced no career issues.
>I just got diagnosed with carpel tunnel
First, talk with your doctor. A lot. Then go get a second opinion and talk to that doctor a lot. Please ignore all internet suggestions until you've done those things. But so long as you're prepared to listen to medical advice, and possibly wear some wrist/hand braces, carpel tunnel should not prevent you from working in your chosen field.
That said, I would suggest that you (and anyone in IT, really) spend some time researching and shopping for the tools which will best support your work, especially with regard to human interface devices. Here are a few jumping off points, all of which are expensive, but nonetheless are worth ten times the price if they fit your hands well and allow you to use them for long periods of time without discomfort:
https://www.amazon.com/Evoluent-VerticalMouse-Regular-Right-VM4R/dp/B00427TAIK
https://ergodox-ez.com/
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/infinity-ergodox
There's a weird upright mouse I've seen an editor use, it puts your hand in a very ergonomic position, much like a tablet would. I can't remember the name of it for the life of me, but it's probably a Logitech product. Your hand is turned nearly completely sideways when using it, thumb facing up like you're shaking hands. EDIT: it's not this one, but it's the same general style. He swears by it. http://www.amazon.com/Evoluent-VerticalMouse-Regular-Right-VM4R/dp/B00427TAIK/ref=pd_sxp_grid_pt_1_0
Evoluent VM4R VerticalMouse 4 Right Hand Ergonomic Mouse with Wired USB Connection (Regular Size) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00427TAIK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_793XDbFFNFHGE
i was having pain in my wrist and switched to http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Natural-Ergonomic-Keyboard-4000/dp/B000A6PPOK and a more expensive http://www.amazon.com/Evoluent-VerticalMouse-Regular-Right-VM4R/dp/B00427TAIK and it really really helped, also you might just want to take breaks more often, and focus on if you have too much tension in your hand while you're typing.. maybe cut down on facebook too :)
Useful and fun is a hard intersection ;-)
I've found one of these to be incredibly useful:
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Trackball-Computer-Mouse/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1485322629&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=logitech+trackman
In terms of dealing with wrist strain/mice calluses.
Philips hue lightbulbs are pretty fun and can also be programmed.
I've been using a Logitech m570. Its not bluetooth, but I have been happy with it.
Another reason I love my mouse!
They tend to be kind of tough to find. I use an Elecom thumb trackball that I imported from Japan. It has a couple extra buttons that can be reprogrammed, and a physical switch you can use to adjust the dpi in addition to software.
The much more common Logitech one has programmable buttons, but no DPI adjustment. It
is probably the easiest one to find though, and most people that use an Elecom actually replace its stock black ball with the blue Logitech one anyway, since it has better tracking with it.
If you're interested in a trackball that is operated with your other fingers rather than your thumb, something like these from the trackball subreddit, then you'd have to ask someone over at /r/trackballs because I know very little about them.
It basically looks like a cross between an Elecom Deft and a Logitech M570 or even Logitech MX Ergo
Does a trackball mouse help significantly? like this
Not a doctor, not a pro, but I've been using trackballs (thumb kind, like this one) for about 20 years now, even for gaming, really works well for me.
Like this ?
You can try this one
The same mouse I'm using. It's lovely.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-M570-Wireless-Trackball/dp/B0043T7FXE
The laser can more precisely measure the distance the mouse moves, yes.
There are laser trackballs though too. I would actually consider using this if I traveled more. It's not always easy to move a mouse around in travel situtations.
This.
I would recommend the Logitech M570 for general surfing and some gaming. It really takes the wrist pain away. ALSO I would check out this program called Workrave that reminds you to take breaks so you aren't going to over strain your body.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0043T7FXE/
Logitech M570. I have a Razer Mamba, but since I work on a PC at work the thumb ball ends up less straining.
Working out to prevent posture/back issues is another discussion ;)
Do you mind a dongle or no?
Personally, I use a Logitech M570 because I love trackballs, and it's a phenomenal mouse.
If you don't want a USB port taken up, the only option is bluetooth. I don't have any recommendations for bluetooth mice.
I recommend the M570 thumb trackball It's stationary and cheap and takes up less space than a mouse because it doesn't need to move. There's a decent case that you can buy to carry it. All in all, it's cheaper than a nicer mouse and functional.
I use it with a radial menu and a handful of AutoHotkey scripts for fast access and scrolling. Quite a nice accessory.
Have you looked into trackball mice, like the Logitech M570?
It you wouldn't need to move your mousing hand at all with something like that.
Hey I had this exact problem. You should try to rest your arm for several days until the pain goes away. Continuing to play will only exacerbate the issue.
I ended up getting a trackball mouse. It uses a different set of muscles and it has caused the pain in my arm to decrease to almost zero. However too much use of any muscle group can cause issues so I swap back to my old mouse every few days.
If you are into or have considered using a trackball mouse check out this baby.
I swear by this mouse, one of the greatest 60 dollars I have spent. Reduced wrist strain and improved gaming accuracy (for me at least) make it very worth it.
You can find this in Amazon as well:
https://www.amazon.ca/Logitech-910-001799-M570-Wireless-Trackball/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=logitech+m570&qid=1563545792&s=gateway&sr=8-3
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Trackball-Computer-Mouse/dp/B0043T7FXE
No mouse pad required. It is also the best mouse I have ever used for head shots in a game.
I use this:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-M570-Wireless-Trackball/dp/B0043T7FXE
I've been using this model for the last 10+ years, I'm going to be screwed if Logitech ever stops making them though.
A trackball mouse maybe? but sounds like you've been pretty thorough w/ your options.
eg:
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Trackball-Computer-Mouse/dp/B0043T7FXE
You could try a wireless trackball like the Kenzington Orbit or Logitech M570
Album with more pics.
Specs:
Desktop is a modified Dell XPS god-knows-what.
Personally I am a huge fan of the Logitech M570 trackball. I use one with CAD all the time. You use your thumb rather than your fingers for the ball. It works very well in situations like you describe. It is definitely a love-it-or-hate-it thing, but I strongly prefer them to mice.
Since the laptop has USB Type C ports, I use a USB Type C Hub which has an HDMI output to it. The HDMI cable goes to the monitor and the hub also has an extra Type C for charging. So the charging and the display output happens through just one cable. The Keyboard is Apple Magic Keyboard and the mouse is Logitech MX Master 2S
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and then links to other stuff in the setup
Desk Lamp
Desk
Headphones
Mouse
Keyboard
Charging Hub
Smart Speaker
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Cross-Computer-Control-Windows/dp/B071YZJ1G1?th=1
This perhaps?
Logitech MX Master or MX Master 2s. I have the first version, version 2s just adds higher DPI (1600 vs 4000) though.
It's not a gaming mouse, but I like it. It's great for office type computer work, and games like factorio. It's even good for FPS games, as it still has a decently high DPI, it just doesn't have macro buttons. The scroll wheel is simply the best out there though, and is the main reason I like it.
It can charge while you're using it too, which is nice for when you forget to charge. Battery lasts a long time though, for me it's at least 2 weeks, and that's with 8+ hours daily use for work plus gaming/fun, with at least the first 8 hours being on bluetooth instead of the USB receiver. It has three storage settings for connections, so I can switch from using it on my work laptop to using it on my personal desktop by just pressing a button on the bottom.
You can try a more subtle styled Logitech like this one to still be comfortable, useful for gaming and good looking. There are also some low profile gaming keyboards out there from smaller manufacturers like Aukey.
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Concur, I have the MX Master 2s. Best mouse ever!
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B071YZJ1G1/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
This is now also available from Amazon at the same price (black only): https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B071YZJ1G1/
To the people hesitating between the OG MX Master and the 2S, I highly recommend the 2S. Better battery life (rated for 70 days if used 8hrs/day), the programmable thumb button per app has some unexpected advantages (I have it do some shortcuts on my IDE depending on motion) if you take some time to set it up. It sounds gimmicky but I ended up loving it. My girlfriend has it switch between sheets on Excel, and control music settings from the desktop.
Of course, all of this can be accomplished through keyboard shortcuts but this makes it faster/easier and doesn't require you to do crazy DDR moves with your fingers.
Have used this mouse - great office choice, not so much for games.
the newer version fixes compatibility issues with macs.
Also:
Grey (This don't look grey to me): Apparently-Grey Mouse
Blue (Is this really blue?): Suspicious-Blue Mouse
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Or wait 1-2 months and get it from amazon. Because it doesn't say out of stock, you can probs price match too.
My short list of accessories is as follows:
- Deepcool Multi Core X6 laptop cooler
- Logitech Perfirnance MX Mouse - This is pretty old and the price has drop from it's original $99 down to $50. I bought it for around $75 on sale some time back in 2011. The more recent version is the MX Master 2S; neither one are gaming mice.
- A USB external dual hard drive dock. Can't remember the model, but it accepts 2.5" SSDs / HDD and 3.5" HDDs. It recognizes HDDs with up to 10TB capacity... or at least that is the manufacturer's claims.
- Rocketfish Dual Sided Mouse Pad - One side smooth for faster mouse movement, other side coarse for more control. No longer produced / sold.
Mouse is currently close to that price on Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071YZJ1G1/ref=twister_B071FT5HZ3?_encoding=UTF8&amp;psc=1
Not sure if you want to adjust it or not.
*Note: None of these links are affiliates. I just googled what I had and got the best link. I tried to post the links I used when buying. It's just been so long.
Here are 3 options for you
High End Productivity
Gaming
Compact Travel
I largely agree with others that this build is a bit overkill; not going to reiterate too much on that--but I do want to briefly caution you about peripherals / monitor choice.
I personally have an InfinityEdge model monitor; while the tiny bezel looks gorgeous, there's a small amount of bleed on the bottom right corner, meaning color representation is slightly distorted. Others with the same monitor have similar or worse issues. I love mine, but honestly I'd suggest you steer clear of the tiny bezel craze to avoid unnecessary risk (returns, repairs and such).
Someone else mentioned the Logitech G502--awesome mouse, yes "gamer-y", definitely recommend. As an alternative, I'd suggest the Logitech Master MX. It's a solid, comfortable, and can be used wireless or wired.
I have always known that as a Logitech and that design is at least 10+ years old. The nice thing about the Logitech version is that the USB receiver can be reprogrammed/paired with any other Logitech keyboard so you only need one receiver.
Newer model - https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Cross-Computer-Control-Graphite/dp/B071YZJ1G1/
Older model - https://www.amazon.com/d/Computer-Mouse/Logitech-Wireless-Performance-Mouse-Large/B002HWRJBM/
Writer Only? No problem.
Word and Pages are fantastic on the device. I’ve been using PowerPoint recently to make decks and it’s worked rather well. Note Office doesn’t have every feature but it has just enough to get it done.
I replaced my Apple Folio keyboard with the brydge.
Brydge Pro 12.9 Keyboard for iPad Pro 12.9 inch 3rd Generation 2018 Model | Aluminum Wireless Bluetooth Keyboard with Backlit Keys | Long Battery Life | (Silver) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MSFMCSZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_l.TCDbG3D5F82
Lastly if it’s your only device, I’d probably recommend the 12.9 - and make sure you get a good mouse. I have the MX Master 2s and looks like the 3 was just released. I recommend this because 5 of 7 buttons can be programmed in iPadOS 13.
Logitech MX Master 2S Wireless Mouse - Use on Any Surface, Hyper-Fast Scrolling, Ergonomic Shape, Rechargeable, Control up to 3 Apple Mac and Windows Computers (Bluetooth or USB), Graphite https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071YZJ1G1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_zcUCDbR2E9A0M
Note looks like the MX Master 3 comes out on the 17th...
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Master-Wireless-Mouse-Rechargeable/dp/B071YZJ1G1/ref=sr_1_1?gclid=Cj0KCQjw5MLrBRClARIsAPG0WGxPcO7ovIZoAhnehcilrkjWImYcl1JWKI0Fmzu03LvsgpZW_BQ2MmIaAue4EALw_wcB&hvadid=322235909506&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=1027669&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=b&hvrand=12674546428972267929&hvtargid=kwd-331235724942&hydadcr=18002_9429203&keywords=mx+master+2x&qid=1567730945&s=gateway&sr=8-1