(Part 2) Best hiking backpacking packs according to redditors
We found 1,005 Reddit comments discussing the best hiking backpacking packs. We ranked the 581 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the products ranked 21-40. You can also go back to the previous section.
Here's the link: https://smile.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Internal-Hiking-Backpack-Rainfly/dp/B06Y57GNY1
Thanks for the tag dude. New username so I didn't immediately catch it.
/u/khovs thanks for bringing this up. I've looked at this pack a few times and I could not imagine it to be a good bag for beginners, and I haven't read strong positive reviews that squelch my concerns. That's why I haven't placed it on the list. That said, if it is a genuinely good pack, then I'd like to see a good comprehensive review with some photos of seams, framesheet, materials, etc. Cause the price is certainly right.
As an example, I own a very similar pack, the REI Flash knockoff, which is claimed to be 30L (it's not), is $30, and appears to be made of similar materials to this pack. The difference being that the knockoff flash has a framesheet... and it even struggles to comfortably carry total pack weights above 15-20lbs with that (thats not to say other frameless packs can't... it's just not a great design). I have taken that pack off the list as I am not totally sure I'd be comfortable using it myself for anything except a 1 nighter. Further, I am really wary of recommending a completely self stowable nylon pack to beginners. Stowable packs are usually far inferior when it comes to all day comfort and support. And I wouldn't expect much for $18.99 w/Amazon prime. I'm also fairly doubtful it's actually 40L... some of the amazon reviews confirm this suspicion.
Lastly, many of the non 5 star Amazon reviews mention it to be of poor construction and uncomfortable for extended use. It seems the majority of the 5 star reviewers are using it as day packs for short hikes or using it as a general purpose bag, which differs greatly from our use case. None of the reviews I see on amazon mention using it for backpacking in any sense.
Maybe I'm wrong, but these are my concerns. It would be irresponsible for me to recommend a pack like that just to make the list work, because I feel it would ultimately drive people away from the sport. This is why we need a good comprehensive review.
The Alternatives list has a pretty good Ali express pack that seems to hold up well as it was positively reviewed by a couple ultralighters on this subreddit. The photos and personal tips from that review provided a lot of good info that made people comfortable with that pack.
While the Klymit motion pack lasted a year a half at around $60, it seems for the past month or two it's been hovering closer to $100... so until another competing pack comes out, I'd recommend that Ali one. It's a pity because that klymit is a great pack (hint hint klymit if you're reading)
Pack mfgs listen up! We need a budget 35-40L pack at around 30-40oz - for no more than $80!
EDIT:
For the record, this is the pack I have been most keen on adding to the list - but I am still very wary. If anyone wants to try it, please report back.
I'm gonna try to break down most of the places you could save weight, as well as give you an idea of dollars per ounce saved for each item so you can figure out the best place to focus your available budget.
All in all, everything here will save you ~78.6 oz or almost 5 lbs. Obviously, don't take anything I or anyone else says as perfect for you. If having extra clothes makes your hike a lot better, then I don't think the weight savings is worth it.
Hope this helps!
So I traveled overseas for a month out of this bag
I brought with me stuff I had in my closet already and purchased a couple small toiletries because I was out. So all told, I spent about $20. It’s been a couple years and that bag is still going strong, and I use it for all sorts of things. Sometimes I’ll pack it folded into itself into a hard sided carryon for more local trips; it’s great for amusement parks too.
Maybe one day I’ll upgrade, but for now it’s perfect for the kind of travel I do: mostly based in cities with public transport, for anywhere from one week to one month, all kinds of weather, no special tech gear (usually just my phone and a kindle), though there is an unpadded sleeve in it for a laptop.
If we go back far enough I think I spent $13 on a packing cube set from Amazon that I still use.
Strap to a frame like
https://www.amazon.com/Stansport-Deluxe-Freighter-Aluminum-Frame/dp/B001RL5PHY/
Mountaintop 40 liter pretty good for 40 bucks, however I'm upgrading again soon. This one is great and I've had it for about two years now with no sign of wear and tear but I wish I had gone with a 50 or 60 liter bag as the 40 really strains for space on a week long trip. Its perfect for about three days however and that's usually what I do anyway. here's some pics of mine the thing I was most concerned about was support and this does a decent enough job, I'd say 7/10. It has molded foam support which is good but a external frame style seems better to me ( however that's a opinionated subject ) id reccamend going ahead and getting either this one or a larger Teton, or the larger version of mine if your planning on staying out for more than 5 days or so. Less than that and I'd highly recommend mine :)
My pack is about 8lb base weight, my big three total around $150.
DIY silnylon 5x9 tarp--$20
Kelty Cosmic down 21--$100
Frameless 30l pack--$20
You can find decent packs for less than $50 at REI garage sales. I saw a Stoke 29 for $30 and regret passing it up.
Teton Sports 163G Explorer 4000 Internal Frame Backpack – Not Your Basic Backpack; High-Performance Backpack for Backpacking, Hiking, Camping; Sewn-in Rain Cover; Hunter Green https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JYY7M5S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_zveVBbE458QGW
Check this out and see if it’s a fit for you. I did research on it and other Teton products and was very impressed. I just got this bag this weekend and so far I really like it, and it’s affordable!
It looks like some cheap Chinese brand.
If you’re looking for something cheaper that will still hold up I suggest these
https://www.amazon.com/TETON-SPORTS-Explorer-Internal-Backpack/dp/B002XF8106
Or this for a little more
https://www.amazon.com/Kelty-Coyote-65-Backpack-Black/dp/B01JHK9UOU/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?keywords=kelty+internal+frame&qid=1568936212&s=gateway&sr=8-9
Edit. Here’s a clone of the first link rebranded as Amazon Basics. This is a better price depending on the size and color
https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Internal-Hiking-Backpack-Rainfly/dp/B077P17P2N
Have you seen the Amazon Basics hiking pack? $55 US for a 55L internal frame with an actual warranty. Only downside I can see is it's a bit heavy at 4.27lbs. And possibly those bottle holders on the side.
https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Internal-Hiking-Backpack-Rainfly/dp/B06Y58B6RY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&th=1
Here ya go!
Yes! What you do is get a frame back pack with just the frame, put the gravel in a burlap sack, and strap the sack to the pack using either bungee cords or paracord. Something like this is ideal https://www.amazon.com/Stansport-Deluxe-Freighter-Aluminum-Frame/dp/B001RL5PHY
I’ve seen people recommend the Coreal backpack, but I got one, and one thing that was missing that was definitely needed was padding in the shoulder straps.
The other I’ve seen mentioned is the G4Free pack, but I’m not sure if the straps are any better, as I have never used it. Both of them seem like you could make a small slit in the strap and slide some ccf padding in there, but that’s up to you.
FWIW, if you use the code NEEMOR15 you get 15% off the Kumo..
Getting a new pack would allow you to get something a bit lighter. For example, the Osprey Exos 48 is about 10 ounces lighter and costs $135.
You can get even lighter if you spend a bit more. For example, the Zpacks Arc Blast would save you about two pounds. Here's a good survey of ultralight backpacks. Of course, there's a durability tradeoff, and ultralight backpacks don't carry heavy loads as well as traditional packs.
My vote would be this, or this.
Light & Cheap. & Light.
Sleeping Bag:
Backpack:
Tent:
I'd stay away from tarps and single walled tents in rainy/cold areas.
I have the escape 4300 that I have been alternating to when I'm not packing my REI Flash 45, and I have no bad feelings about it. Budget pack that I got for less than $60, one main compartment with side mesh is nice, plus the lid compartments are plenty big for stuff I need quickly (snacks, tp, first aid, etc). Adjustable shoulder harness is easy to fit, and has plenty of ventilation. Other than maybe being a little heavier than some of the other big named brands... I haven't seen a reason to change to another pack (other than when I downsize to my Flash 45 when hammock camping)
Hey all. Relatively new to the ultralight scene, but have been trying to go lighter weight over the last few years. Will probably still be a while before I'm true ultralight (6lbs for the big 4?), but my current plan would have me at 7-7.5 lbs for the big 4. Was curious about your input / any suggestions for improvements:
Overall, $350/7.4 lbs for the big 4. I definitely know there's room for improvement and I will probably be replacing things as I can afford it. The most obvious place for improvement is the bag, but I'd actually bought one for my wife as a temporary hiking bag for our first hike-in camp together but we ended up both really liking it. It's comfortable and for $27 it was hard to pass up, especially as it has all the compartments I like in a hiking bag (i.e. access to the bottom section for the sleeping bag). Welcome to criticisms and suggestions.
I just started running home from work last week (to avoid the issues with having to shower at work). I have a 4.5 mile run with this ~13L pack and if you pack it reasonably full and strap everything tight I don't feel like it's very noticeable aside from feeling a little hotter than normal with the extra sweat and heat trapped against my back.
I also think it will depend on your stride. If your hips rotate side to side very much then the pack is going to feel more noticeable than if your hips stay pointed straight forward.
I ordered this rucksack off Amazon for $40. Good reviews, and I liked the design. Not sure if mfa would approve, but as an entering freshman to college I'm already kind of broke lol. I've been using it for the past couple of days and it's actually not that bad. If you have a low-ish budget, this is a really good option (:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01G7SQCCS/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1496851832&sr=8-2-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=LifeStraw&psc=1
I bought this and I love it, so you can always have safe drinking water.
Sun screen is outrageously expensive. I literally just bought sunscreen yesterday 125ml for almost 400 baht.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00HNSSV3U/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1496851895&sr=8-1&keywords=sunscreen+sticks
These are great and don't count against your liquids
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00I8Y4GE6/ref=sr_ph_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1496851979&sr=sr-1&keywords=conditioner+bar+coconut
Again; then your conditioner doesn't count against your liquids. The off spray (high deet) I bought yesterday was 125 baht. So super cheap. I also brought these and they've helped a lot.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01F85OLV0/ref=mp_s_a_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1496852045&sr=8-14&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=mosquito+repellent+bracelet
Good luck. Seriously don't really worry about clothes. They're so much cute and cheap stuff here that you'll want to buy. I'm on day 36 of a 6 month trip and I hardly packed a full weeks worth of clothes, I've bought elephant pants and some sun dresses and tanks. Bring clothes you're going to wear out and then just toss by the end of your trip. Also if you get your clothes laundered almost everything will shrink. So seriously. Bring crap clothes.
Also. Something I always do before a long trip which is super tough for me is, pack your bag like three or four days before you're going to leave. And then carry your bag around for like thirty minutes. Is it too heavy?!? Is there stuff that you might not need? Seriously the humidity is so awful you're going to want the lightest pack you can manage.
Also, Sorry for all the amazon spam;
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B014EMLHDI/ref=sxts_bia_sr_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496852346&sr=1&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=2973120562&pd_rd_wg=yJVQ3&pf_rd_r=JGQZZHPMCMNCVT60Q1KT&pf_rd_s=mobile-sx-top-slot&pf_rd_t=9701&pd_rd_i=B014EMLHDI&pd_rd_w=rgIAm&pf_rd_i=new+outlander+daypack&pd_rd_r=WR7FRCG79DFHJ886G5V0&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65
This bag is a god send. I used it as my carry on bag, for my essentials for the flight and then it folds up super small! So when I want to go out for the day and want to bring a few things I shove it all in that. Also. I love my money belt. I use it here all the time. I actually have the "spy belt" brand and so when I go out at night I have some cash and a place to stash my iPhone and I'm still hands free. I think it looks less desiring that a large shoulder purse that someone may want to take. 😊sorry if this is too much info. Holla if you have any other questions!! I might be able to help.
[+129] "Backpack Thread" posted by CatRage on Mon 29 Jul 2013 04:29:05 GMT
>As many mfa readers (including myself) are going into the new school year I figured we could discuss backpacks. So feel free to share your favorite shoulder-bound storage bag!
Comments:
[+59] MoPo918:
>Big List of Backpacks
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>Default Standards: Cheap, Color Options, Basic
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> American Apparel
> Baggu
> EASTPAK
> Fjällräven Kranken
> Herschel Supply Co.
> JanSport
> Penfield
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>Rustic Woodsmen: Leather, Waxed Canvas/Cotton, Rucksack, Outdoorsy
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> Duluth Pack
> Filson
> Frost River
> L.L. Bean Waxed Cotton [Bonus]
> Makr
> Orvis
> Saddleback Leather Co.
> WILL Leather Goods
> Tanner Goods
> Saddleback Leather Co.
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>Technical Outdoors: Technical Fabrics, Ergonomic, Modern Outdoor Equipment
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> Arc'Teryx
> Fjällräven
> Kelty
> Poler
> The North Face
> Topo Designs
> Trakke
> Watershed
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>Military: Technical Fabrics, MOLLE, tactical
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> 5.11
> BLACKHAWK!
> GORUCK
> Maxpedition
> Triple Aught Design
> Watershed MTP
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>Technical Urban: Technical Fabrics, Ergonomic, Biking, Electronics Storage
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> Burton
> Chrome Industries
> Côte&Ciel
> Cyclus
> Focused Space
> IGNOBLE
> Incase
> Manhattan Portage
> Mission Workshop
> TimBuk2
> Tom Bihn
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>Fashion: Designers, Natural & Technical Fabrics, Everyday Use
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> Archival Clothing
> Burberry
> Everlane
> Head Porter
> Jack Spade
> Louis Vuitton
> lululemon
> Solid Gray
> Tail Feather
> Tumi
> Vera Bradley
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>Note: Rough Categorization with some overlap.
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>Edit: Brands were added from comments.
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>Edit 2: Added military category.
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>Edit 3: Alphabetized
[+8] chalsno:
>Makr Farm Rucksack
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>Definitely getting one of these for the fall. Likely one in Navy, since the light gray has sold out. But the charcoal and army green options also look quite nice.
[+18] BoxerguyT89:
>I love my Jansport Pleasanton. I saw it on one of the backpack threads posted a few weeks ago and figured that it would be a good bag for college this year.
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>Pleasanton
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>It holds everything that I need it to, including my large gaming laptop, very comfortably and I think it looks pretty good too.
[+7] IronReaver17:
>I ordered this rucksack off Amazon for $40. Good reviews, and I liked the design. Not sure if mfa would approve, but as an entering freshman to college I'm already kind of broke lol. I've been using it for the past couple of days and it's actually not that bad. If you have a low-ish budget, this is a really good option (:
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I disagree. I have a very similar pack I bought & brought to about 8 different countries over 4 months. It's been used as a sole bag for 2 weeks in Iceland & Europe, sole bag for 2 weeks in Hawaii, and as just a day pack stuffed inside my hyperlite 2400 for everything else. I have about 5 different packs and use different combos depending on airline restrictions and mode of travel. These cheapo $20 packable bags kick ass either as a sole bag or compliment. I had no problems & the company actually replaced my first one already, for free. Here's the one I have: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0151EFHGQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486880029&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=g4free+backpack
https://www.amazon.com/Osprey-Packs-Backpack-Basalt-Medium/dp/B00E0LGGTY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1520128108&sr=8-1&keywords=exos+58
Looks like the green, large is $209 now.
The older versions have a graphic on the rear pocket that looks like multiple nested and inverted "V"s and come in black/green or blue/white. The new ones are black/red or green/lt. green, no graphic and no hip belt pockets.
I've got one of these. Haven't used it much yet, but it seems to be well made.
Edit: Since mine's not available now, this one looks to be virtually identical. And if you want name brand, the Osprey Ultralight is similar.
Yes, look for the 2014-2017 model. It has hip belt pockets and shoulder strap pockets. These will be very handy. You can find the older model exos online at amazon. https://www.amazon.com/Osprey-Packs-Backpack-Basalt-Medium/dp/B00E0LGLOO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1521656284&sr=8-1&keywords=exos and it's on sale.
[This is the pack I just got from amazon recently] (http://www.amazon.com/Sports-Escape-Ultralight-Internal-Backpack/dp/B006JYHI24/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1345071118&sr=8-2&keywords=Teton+ultralight). Its made by Teton sports, which I had never heard of but has good reviews. Honestly the material is the same as a $200 plus pack just without the frills. Zippers are nice and strong and the stitching looks quality.
I packed about 45lbs into it to test when I got it. I'm heading out for a week in the mountains on Friday. Its fully adjustable and has removable aluminum stays that you can shape to your back to get the best comfort and weight distribution which is awesome. It takes a bit of trial and error with the shoulder straps to get the distribution right but I got it to where it felt really nice and did a mile out and back with no pain.
Its just over $100 bucks so its in your range and qualifies for free shipping from amazon. But honestly if its just one day I think you could get something smaller and cheaper.
[Maybe this one] (http://www.amazon.com/Sports-Summit-Ultralight-Internal-Backpack/dp/B006JYHH34/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1345072392&sr=8-4&keywords=Teton+ultralight) which is half the size and considerably cheaper
EDIT: Also in the past I have found really nice packs for cheap on craigslist. You can almost always find a nice REI or north face pack in good shape around your price range. Another option at least
Actually, most all Osprey packs are on sale on several websites. This must be one of their approved clearance times.
REI has a discount on Osprey packs. Any Osprey packs in the REI Garage are an additional 20% (could get a Stratos 24 for under $80).
Moosejaw has a sale going.
Even Amazon, as mentioned above, is running good prices. Picked up the Talon 22 for sub-$90. Great all around backpack for trails, bike rides, commuting, photography, etc.
I'm sure there are some other sites worth checking out, but those are the ones I browsed before pulling the trigger on the blue Osprey Talon 22 from Amazon (and it arrived within a day!)
I don’t know of any quality boots that cheap. I went with the 75L amazon basics internal frame hiking pack. It only ran me $35 https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06Y57GNY1/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1_1_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
I had been looking at this Teton pack: https://www.amazon.com/Sports-Explorer-Internal-Backpack-Backpacking/dp/B01JYY7M5S/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485142359&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=teton+hiker+3700
I'l have to compare the two and see what the differences are
I am looking into getting a farpoint 40 for my first main pack.
I have just bought the sea to summit pack today, waiting for it to arrive, could be worth a looking. 20l.
Was the aim of getting the farpoint so it can travel with you as a carry on [thats why im thinking of getting it]
I would recommend the Teton Explorer 4000. 65L and you can't beat the price. I only hear people talk about Osprey and Eddie Bauer on here, but I've seen a few people live out of their Teton packs.
http://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Explorer4000-Internal-Backpack/dp/B002XF8106
Get a backpack. It's super easy and convenient, much more so than a purse, since your hands are free.
I have a heavy duty one for my laptop (plus whatever), as well as a smaller collapsible one like this. The latter is great for when I'm out on a walk since I can just fold it up and keep it clipped to my belt until I'm ready to load it up.
My wife and I did 75 days throughout SEA with an older model of this backpack from REI. 40L was more than enough space for us and I'm definitely glad I didn't go with the 80L+ models that many other travelers were carrying.
Also, we bought daypacks that could be folded into itself in a pouch. I'll try and look up the model we bought...
Edit: This is the daypack we bought. Super lightweight and collapses into a small pouch. http://amzn.com/B00CEZ4ZJ6
A couple years ago I had been hiking a lot and decided to see if backpacking was for me. I didn't want to jump too deep into the gear money pit without knowing how I'd like longer overnights so I bought a set of cheaper gear and have been slowly replacing it.
I started with this pack from Amazon. (I think it was only $50 when I got it) Its not the best pack in the world, but I was really happy with it on my first several trips. I've since replaced it with a nice Gregory and the main differences are that the Gregory carries its load more comfortably and feels more reliable (meaning it will last longer). The front end of this pack felt perfectly solid, but the connection between the pack and the shoulder straps seemed like it might give out after a couple years.
I bought this tent and still use it. There are lighter, more backpack-y options for sure, but for $100 I'm very pleased with it. It takes up way too much of my pack, but it holds up well and has never leaked on me.
Re pack size: Some folks would probably have no problem getting gear + supplies for a 4 night trip in a 45L pack. However, for folks like us who are newer at this I'd say go bigger. Get a 65L for anything over 2 nights. Part of cutting down your pack size is experience in knowing what you will need and what is dead weight. Also people who are more experienced have invested $$ in lighter gear or learned to fashion their own light weight gear.
In your first post you said:
>although they mentioned it was radio controlled in the final versions.
I assumed you wanted to know how to emulate that with modern electronics.
It looks like for the passive movements they went for passive spring action.
You might think about starting with an alice pack frame. Cheap milsurp frame for a pack, but they're excellent for attaching any kind of load bearing apparatus to yourself comfortably because they're intended to distribute the weight.
Find a way to attach the support members for the head and the tail to the frame.
Since the tail is thick I'll bet you could use a flexible metal rod going through the middle of the foam, and with a cable at the end tied to somewhere higher up on your back. That would make it cantilever so that it would swing back and forth at a level height.
The neck is going to be tricky if you're going to make it like theirs. Kind of looked like they used a urethrae or some other kind of stiff rubber honeycomb. You might be able to 3d print something like that.
You also may be able to use the same trick for the head as the tail, only with a rigid beam and a ball-and-socket joint, or something like that.
Those are just thoughts.
As already mentioned, digitigrade stilts will give you the foot angle you're looking for. They're tricky to build, but it can be done with just a drill press, a vice, a flat bastard-file, and a hacksaw.
They'll also make you taller. The longer they are, the harder they tend to be to balance on. I've played around with using passive pneumatic springs on a set I've got about half-built. The foot piece is still a crude prototype, but the upper components are pretty much where I want them. Here's a quick video of one of them
These have a pretty long metatarsal member, I stand roughly 7'6" in them resting, and if I lean forward I can get up to 7'8" when I lean forwards. So it would definitely make for a more impressive costume.
I am a fan of the Osprey Talon 22. 22 > 18 I know, but it was close enough that I figured I would mention it.
I have used this pack on a couple winter day hikes this year. Its comfortably fits my food, up to 100oz of water, microspikes, and emergency overnight gear on the inside and an ice axe on the outside. I havent used it yet in the summer, but I see it being perfect for day hikes and single overnight hikes.
EDIT: Corrected 100L to 100oz. 100L is a lot :)
I used baby oil for chafing. It worked pretty well, and I use it before swimming/getting wet so I don't need a shower afterwards.
And as far as a light back pack, I used this one it worked fairly decently at keeping the contents relatively dry during a rain storm. And it dried quickly afterward.
They definitely exist, they're just generally pretty heavy and/or expensive. The hydration bladder usually just has to reside in an external area, so the hose doesn't pass through the main compartment, such as on this (non-waterproof) backpack, where it's located outside the bag (between the foam frame and the pack itself).
https://www.amazon.com/Osprey-234900-550-Daylite-Backpack-Black/dp/B00AOGU7M6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1466477822&sr=8-1&keywords=osprey+daylite
Current bag is this backpack, although - full disclosure - I haven't used it yet! My go-to was an eBags crossbody (Piazza) which I highly recommend if anyone prefers crossbody, but after a full day at the parks and a fully loaded bag I would end up with ONE sore shoulder. I finally decided to get the same backpack my friend had when we went to DL. It's the perfect size and folds up into a pouch for easy packing!
There's an Amazon basics pack for $60. Looks about as good as anything I've used for backpacking.
Alice frame?
I got some straps like these at the hardware store and fastened my case to a pack frame like this one. It's decently comfortable.
Yeah, they were middle-shelf options back in the day. Not super low quality, but not top-of-the-line either.
JanSport has been a solid reliable name in backpacks for a long time. Not overly technical, but they get the job done. Today they are lower quality for this type of use (wilderness backpacking) as other brands have taken over.
You mentioned Mystery Ranch. They are a high end company, making quality products. Great choice. They come from Dana Designs company back when the JanSport packs you have were made. Dana was the top-shelf option then and I still have fond memories of my Dana pack from 1990 (totally heavy and overbuild by today's standards).
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Here is a pack on Amazon that I'd compare to your internal frame second picture:
Here is a quality option that modern backpackers carry:
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Amazon Basics is a brand a lot of campers go to. They're crazy cheap while being very very well made.
Get a nice 40L or 55L Amazon Basics backpack and not only will it serve you for many years of active use, but it's innocuous, low profile, and very comfortable to wear over long distances if you have to.
Example: AmazonBasics Internal Frame Hiking Backpack with Rainfly, 55 L, Green https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y58B6RY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_ODF4AbBMPD8RC
They have high ratings for a reason. Really quality product.
I have never tried this, but if I did I would give it a go with an A.L.I.C.E frame.
I have one of those frames and you can use it for all sorts of weird unwieldy things that need transporting.
Nice example, a friend of mine took the radiator out of his truck to take to a radiator repair shop. Having no second car he put the radiator on the A.L.I.C.E. with straps and cycled off to the shop.
He was not on a brompton but could have been.....
Also I have used it for a full jerry can of fuel.
This is a good pack. At a clearance price. The 2018 models there are $200, last years model is just as good (arguably better) for $133.
And if you want something slightly smaller, this isn't bad, either. OR this (the large in Pacific Blue is showing the lowest price at the moment).
Also, don't buy anything without knowing your torso size. Fit is important.
But if you really can't afford more popular brands like Osprey or Granite Gear, and must go cheap, I think you might do best with one of the Outdoor Products packs from Walmart, like this (product page here). That may not be any better than the one you linked, but it should be similar, for half the price.
I actually decided to look at the alternative budget list from the wiki and went with this pack. It's crazy cheap, but I don't expect it to last as long as expensive ones, and if I don't like it the SO gets it. And if i do then win for me. With that pack it puts me at 16lbs. Since it's only a 2.5lb pack.
Its hi-tech bag made for hiking (super comfy!!!) little stretchy and waterproof. I put camera with lens into shoulder bag and then into rucksack. If you carry extra lens, just put it in pouch or something. Looks good as well and coz I cycle a lot its perfect bag for biking too.
My daily load is 13" laptop+d810+105f1.4 and there's still space for jumper or jacket. It has flexible outside pocket where you can put lots of stuff as well. go somewhere to shop check it out.
Here's mine and here is rain cover, It has straps on sides where you can attach tripod.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0033ZMY1W for the Brits.
Just ordered one, will be great for my commute to work, no need to carry the empty pack back after lunch!
I have the same daypack, the Sea To Summit Ultrasil Day Pack, and it's fantastic. I'm actually on my second one because I wore the first one out.
If all I'm carrying for the whole trip is a daypack, then I'll use my Osprey Daylite Plus.
But if I'm backpacking, setting up a basecamp, and then running around exploring during the day with a daypack? I just bring my tiny stowable Naturehike 18L backpack. Only weighs 120g and is worth tossing in my main ruck when backpacking so that I have some flexibility to leave the big bag back at camp. The side pockets hold a Nalgene perfectly, and the waterproof fabric has held up pretty well to what I've thrown at it.
osprey exos 58
Cheaper than the 3400. Slightly bigger.
Not sure what you are asking, but the quality/durability issues with the No Limits brand seem chronic. My buddy wanted a really cheap pack to get into backpacking and settled on the Teton Scout 3400 (55L). It's a decent quality pack with plenty of features for a beginner. Currently available on amazon for $65: http://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Scout-Internal-Backpack/dp/B00AE31RJQ
They also make a larger (65L) pack: http://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Explorer-Internal-Backpack/dp/B002XF8106/ref=pd_sim_468_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=41i6Oh9FSNL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL320_SR162%2C320_&refRID=1N8YEFCF077RTS8AHSZ7
Be careful about getting into huges packs (anything over 65L is a big pack). It's hard not to fill out all the space in your pack, so the larger your pack, the more you will bring. I understand you are new to the sport and may not have "ultralight" gear, but just be aware that the amount of weight on your back will have a huge impact on your enjoyment, especially as a beginner.
The GORUCK backpacks are awesome, bomb-proof, and will last you a long, long, long time if you want to fork out the money for them. However, they're not really necessary for what you're trying to do unless you also have some interest in rucking and/or have a fair amount of disposable income (as they're quite pricey). I have this Osprey pack for running and general travelling to and fro, and it has served me pretty damn well.
I've never used it, but I know a lot of people also swear by the Nike Cheyenne Vapor backpack, which is (I believe) made specifically for running. You could even get some of the Ultimate Direction vests (or the new Fastpack) depending on how much stuff you're trying to get in there - they're super lightweight and comfortable.
I don't use your bag, but I carry a 12" Macbook with me everywhere abroad. My laptop goes in my day pack 99% of the time, but it fits in my reservoir sleeve as well.
My Laptop Case - Not waterproof or anything, but it protected my laptop (minus an issue with the screen) in a motorcycle accident where I broke my sternum. It doubles as a stand of sorts.
My Daypack - 2.4oz, tiny, everything I need.
Not a bad list, but some adjustments/thoughts:
Oh, and somewhat random, but dental floss is really hard to find there for some reason.
great deal and really nice features on that pack. Anywhere to get it in the US?
I got this one recently - 18L and 4.5ish oz for about $15. Wanna trade? :-)
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0753ZQDGN/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have just heard about and am now looking into purchasing this. collapses down really nicely for travel.
Theoretically, yes.
Get a few of the batteries, each of those is only slightly larger than the built in battery, you will be lucky if you get about a half hour each.
Also, for the pack, go with a frame.
https://www.amazon.ca/Stansport-Deluxe-Freighter-Aluminum-Frame/dp/B001RL5PHY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1458344933&sr=8-1&keywords=hiking+frame+pack
Carrying that much on your back is always going to look stupid, so at least make it comfortable.
I had back surgery a number of years ago and have the same problem. If you get an expensive UL pack and it's not comfortable, I don't know if they'll let you return it.
This is what I'm experimenting with; find a cheap frameless or minimal framed pack to test out first. If it doesn't work, you haven't invested a car payment into it.
I just found this one on Amazon that looks like a good candidate:
GoBackTrail Roll Top Black Backpack - Ultralight 25L - 40L with Removable Internal Frame – Always The Right Size - Water Resistant – Comfortable for Men and Women When Walking, Trekking and Hiking https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MDRECDU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_00kWCbRDT8SRH
It's only $54.97, weighs 2.5 lbs (not too bad), and has the option to remove the frame sheet. This won't be your forever pack, but it might help you determine what to go for in a UL pack. Think training wheels.
FYI, I picked up a $100, sub 2 lb, frameless pack from Amazon that I'm trying out. One problem I've discovered right off is that the padding in the shoulder straps and hip belt are too thin for me. This can also be a problem with the expensive UL packs. I need a good support frame too.
Bags
I’m actually a two bagger (don’t kill me!). However that is everything I own. My main bag is a Tortuga Air. I would love to go fully one bag, but I have a CPAP that takes up a bit of room. I also have a Tom Binh Synapse 25 (I just got it, before that I was using a Timbuk2 messenger bag as my personal item). I switched to the Synapse because When I have to carry around both for a while having my heavy gear bag around my neck caused an incredibly sore neck. I needed something with real straps.
Tortuga Air
First I’ll deal with the Tortuga. I love that bag. I’ve been using it for about 1.5 years now and it looks almost the same as when I bought it. I’ve wanted to get a new bag, but I can’t justify replacing it while it’s going so well. Their are tons of in-depth reviews of the Tortuga that will go more in depth then anything I’ll do, but I’ll go over it a bit. I love that it lays completely flat when open and that it has compression straps inside the main compartment as well as the outside. The half mesh zip side of the bag is also nice for separating out smaller things if you aren’t using packing cubes. The mesh is surprisingly strong too. I put my CPAP in that mesh area for the past year and it hasn’t ripped through. Just be sure not to put anything pointy in there (like power cables). It holds as much as you really need.
The only stuff that annoys me about it is that the smaller front compartment can get squished out if you put too much stuff in the mesh compartment. This is probably not an issue for most people, but my CPAP makes the bottom part of the front pocket pretty unusable. Although I managed to put my big li-ion battery in there (20,000 mah). The “Water bottle” pocket isn’t big enough for my water bottle, however I don’t really use the bag for stuff like that. I keep a deck of cards (plastic) and my head torch (Petzl) in that pocket. Always ready for the dark or a good drinking game.
Tom Binh Synapse 25
Like I said earlier I just got this a week or two ago. I got it with the padded hip belt, and the Freudian Slip. The Feudian Slip doesn’t look like something that I’ll use though. It takes up WAY too much room and I use quite a few pens and notebooks but it’s too much even for me. I’m replacing it with some Tom Binh stuff sacks. The hip belt was probably superfluous, but when I’m just going for a couple of weeks the Tortuga is overkill and I figured I could get by with the Synapse. My initial thoughts on the bag when I got it went something along the lines of, “DAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!” I’m very impressed with the overall worksmanship. That nylon is super durable feeling and the zippers are on point. I am pretty rough on bags and I think that this one will do me pretty good for quite a while.
I love the front pockets and the water bottle pocket, although I’m currently using that for my umbrella and have my water bottle (a collapsed Vapur Eclipse). The bottom holds my over-sized but very nice toiletry/first aid kit, and I have cables, pens, batteries, and eating utensils in the side pockets. The inside is one of my laptops, I’ll probably put my iPad in there too, my notebook, my cable/tech organizer, and a small packing cube of clothes. It’s probably a week worth of clothes if you pushed it. This is so that if my main bag got lost while traveling I wouldn’t be screwed.
I know that I could probably get by with just the Tortuga, but well I don’t feel like it and I like having a separate work bag. Also I don’t pack too many clothes. I pack too many cables. WHY do I fell the need to pack 3 cables of every type when I know that micro USB and thunderbolt cables are ubiquitous? I blame society, and my hatred of cables constantly breaking. Oh well, USB C is still pretty hard to find at convenience stores anyway.
Stuff I don’t like about it, hmm, I haven’t road tested it yet. I’m staying with family to help my brother with the baby once he’s born (hopefully today). However I hope to get it on the road in the next month or so, and do a weekend trip in a couple of weeks. The straps are pretty stiff, but I’ve read they break in really well after a little while. I wish the adjustment straps for the main straps had a clip to make them not bounce around when you’re walking. That’s minor and I’ll probably just rubber band them, or maybe make a clip out of something.
Odd Bags
I also just got a Sea to Summit Ultra-Sil Day Pack which replaces the old Tortuga packable day pack I had. Don’t grab one of those by the way. Mine ended up having the bottom completely shredding along the seams after about 6-7 months. Granted I was pretty hard on it, but still. It looked like a cat had shredded it finely. No way to repair. I like having an extra bag like this for the beach, or just to grab some groceries.
I also got a Scrubba to replace my old dry bag I got in the Philippines. It allows me to wash my clothes in it very easily, and it packs down MUCH smaller than my old dry bag, although it doesn’t feel as durable. The old one was just a big bag of rubber and felt like you could throw it down a rocky hill and it would be fine. I also used it as a cooler periodically. That’s actually a pro tip for you guys. Put ice in your dry bag and some beers for the beach. BAM instant (not very effective) cooler.
Check in amazon a brand called G4Free, their foldable backpack is around the size you want, and weights less than 500 grams. I bought one and really liked it. The only downside is it doesn’t have hip support. I took it on a road trip through Ireland and managed to get the weight around 6.5 kilos.
Foldable backpack
http://www.amazon.com/A-L-I-C-E-BackPack-shoulder-straps-waistbelt/dp/B000KD3GTE
The Osprey Daylite looks like a neat bag that won't break the bank.
Also the Northface Jester might be something you're into. At around $63 I'd say that's a good deal.
The Osprey Axis also looks to be a handy bag with just the right amount of pockets.
For a very simple pack (no sternum straps or back mesh) check out the Kelty Kite. For about $50 it might work well for a casual EDC bag.
Amazon sells a 55L for $55.
Keep in mind it may catch fire and explode into a million pieces your first night out, but ya never know. Packs are something that you get what you pay for. It may be all you need for a few light trips, though. Give the reviews a look and report back if you get one and use it.
I'm getting closer, but here's what I've got so far. I saw your post in /r/photography.
https://www.amazon.com/Gootium-21101KA-Specially-Backpack-Rucksack/dp/B00A6IY8AO/ref=sr_1_18?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1481429562&sr=1-18&nodeID=360832011&refinements=p_n_size_browse-vebin%3A2343364011
As many of the other commenters have stated - buy your pack to fit your gear. If you buy your pack first you will find all sorts of things to fill it with.
That said - I have the Deuter pack a size larger than this - the Deuter ACT Lite 65 + 10 Pack. and it works great for my needs. I have used it on many weekend trips and one 10 day trek. All my trips are Boy Scout trips, so we tend to carry more gear than non-Scouts. The 10 day trek was to Philmont last summer. Philmont required us to carry several days worth of bulky food at a time. My gear took up about 2/3 of the pack and then I had plenty of room left for food or large water dromedaries when needed. The +10 expansion worked great for this as I could fill to the brim and then shrink it down as we used up the food and water.
A couple critiques I have about this line of packs.
If you are a beginner and want to try something cheaper to get started - we
have had luck with Teton brand backpacks for our Scouts. My son took the
[Teton Escape 4300](
https://www.amazon.com/Sports-Ultralight-Internal-Backpacking-Mountaineering
/dp/B006JYHI24/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481035907&sr=8-1&keywords=teton+4300)
to Philmont and it worked well for him. The Teton Hiker
3700 might be more the
size you are looking for.
I use a super cheap foamy pad kinda like this one and an Enlightened Equipment Enigma quilt. For shelter I carry the Six Moon Designs Skyscape Scout. Wish I could afford the Skyscape X... saving my pennies for that one maybe in another year or two.
No joke, the dish rags I use are paper thin. I wish I could find an example of them on Amazon. Maybe I'll get spunky later and upload a picture.
While we're recommending gear, I highly recommend snagging one of these. It's weighs 0.4oz, clips to anything, puts out a tremendous amount of light, practically indestructable, and the battery lasts forever. I keep one on my keychain all the time and it's my backup flashlight if my head lamp were to croak.
Also, your day pack is really heavy. What do you really plan on carrying? Something like this would save you a full half pound.
A lot of your gear is similar to mine. I'm also just getting into backpacking and I've got the same cloud up 2 tent and aegismax sleeping bag coming in the mail this week. I picked up this pack a few weeks ago and like it. Haven't had a chance to use it a lot but with free returns you can see if it works for you.
"Amazon Basics" is some gear that's not perfect or ultralight, but decent and well-priced.
For example, they have a backpack that's a knock-off of the Teton 3400 (which itself is a decent-and-reasonably-priced product itself!), without being a complete piece of junk. Currently it's like fifty bucks, though the price moves a lot (I paid like $42, I think):
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y6LRWZQ/
Whereas I believe this is the Teton original, for 50% more:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JYY7M5S/
Somewhere in my emails I have a long note about buying cheap gear that I wrote up for the new parents in our Scout troop; I can dig it up if you want to read it, though I am sure some here would dispute my lazy generalizations. :7)
I hate on Wal-Mart a lot, but their camping stuff has a good reputation for being "cheap and cheerful," which makes it perfect for n00bs on the principle of "Buy a cheap item first and if you use it enough to wear it out, you'll know that you want to buy high quality next time. And if you don't wear it out, then you haven't spent much to discover that this hobby isn't for you."
The MSR HH NX is a very nice tent, very well made and livable. It is kinda narrow though. Overall, I really enjoy using it when conditions aren't right for a hammock.
2015 Wishlist:
TAR Xtherm
Osprey Exos 58
MH Ghost Whisperer
STS Aeros Premium Pillow
Geigerrig Hydration Bladder
Also in the market for a decent camera if anyone has any suggestions?
IDK What sort of weather you'll be camping/hiking in, but this is a pretty basic list of gear that I would take if I were on a budget:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006JYHI24/?tag=ultrastuff-20
http://www.amazon.com/Suisse-Sport-Adventurer-Ultra-Compactable-Sleeping/dp/B001TR7QZA/ref=sr_1_3?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1408072994&sr=1-3&keywords=ultralight
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FB7XYXM/?tag=ultrastuff-20
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002COCF3M/?tag=ultrastuff-20
That's a bag, tarp, hammock and sleeping bag. They all have great ratings and should get you through just about anything.
Me, personally, I carry my hammock, a wool blanket and my tarp from http://www.bushcraftoutfitters.com/ ( http://www.bushcraftoutfitters.com/Coyote-Tarp-10x10-tarp-10x10-coyote.htm ) in my army surplus bag. I also carry my stainless steel pot and cup, cordage, zip ties, leather gloves, folding saw, axe and knife with me when I'm out in the woods. I have a "space blanket" too.
My pack could be lighter for sure, but everything I have serves a purpose.
Whenever you decided you want to get into campinp/hiking/bushcraft/whatever, decided what you really need/want to have with you. Don't just jam random "camping" supplies in your bag. Take your time, research and pack carefully. Your back will thank you.