Thanks everyone. I'm glad to join the team and I think I've got a few ideas you will really enjoy. Currently mobile but I will update this post a bit later when I get home.

Time for a celebratory dram.

As requested, my build is below:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-2600K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor | $269.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler | Corsair Hydro Series H50 Liquid CPU Cooler | $49.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard | ASRock P67 Extreme 4 (B3) ATX LGA1155 Motherboard | $180.81 @ NCIX US
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $56.99 @ Newegg
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $56.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $88.86 @ Outlet PC
Storage | Crucial M4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk | $62.99 @ Microcenter
Storage | Crucial M4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk | $62.99 @ Microcenter
Storage | Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $149.98 @ NCIX US
Video Card | XFX Radeon HD 6950 2GB Video Card (CrossFire) |-
Video Card | Powercolor Radeon HD 6950 2GB Video Card (CrossFire) |-
Sound Card | Asus Xonar DG 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card | $19.99 @ Microcenter
Case | Antec Nine Hundred Two V3 ATX Mid Tower Case | $123.84 @ Mac Connection
Power Supply | Corsair 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply | $114.99 @ Newegg
Optical Drive | Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer | $19.98 @ Outlet PC
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (64-bit) | $130.20 @ Amazon
Mouse | Logitech G500 Wired Laser Mouse | $54.99 @ SuperBiiz
Keyboard | Ducky Shine Blue LED Cherry MX Blacks |-
Monitor| Viewsonic VX2439wm|-
Monitor| Yamakasi Catleap Q270 SE|-
External DAC| Behringer UCA202|-
Bling| LOGISYS Computer CLK12BL 12" Cold Cathode kit|-
Subwoofer| Dayton Sub-1000|-
Amp| AudioSource Amp-100|-
Speakers| Pioneer SP-BS21-LR 80 Watt RMS 2-Way Speakers|-
Headphones| ATH-M50S|-
| | Total
| Prices include shipping and discounts when available. | $1443.58
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-09 20:16 EDT-0400 |

Ducky on the old "desk"

more pics incoming... stay tuned while i find a real camera

Desk top and complete picture

A couple details:

Components:

I read QUITE a few reviews and this series was very highly rated at a reasonable price. Ended up getting many of them on refurb, open box, or otherwise for a great discount.

R/L Floor Speakers: Polk Audio TSi400

Center channel: Polk Audio CS20

R/L surround: Polk Audio TSi200

R/L rear in-ceiling: Polk Audio RC80i

Subwoofer: Polk Audio PSW505

Receiver: Harman Kardon AVR-3650

Projector: Optoma HD20

Screen: Elite Screens Sable, 100" CineWhite

Blu-Ray player: Pansonic DMP-BDT220

Remote: Logitech Harmony One RF (no line of sight needed)

Total of all electronic components with wiring and such came to around $5,000.

All lumber used for coffers is 1x finger jointed poplar. Used 1x8 ripped to dimension for verticals, 1x10 for horizontals. Sizes were dimensioned based upon the depth of the gimbal lights above the columns and the width of the column capitals.

Base and casement trim is also FJP, crown molding was MDF due to the major cost difference. Doors are Western solid cores, knobs by Emtek.

All speaker wires are 12 gauge UL rated for in-wall usage. All other cables and connectors are from Monoprice as well.

110v wiring is all 12/2 with 15A receptacles.

Gimbal lights from Lowes, wall sconces are Minka Lavery.

Total for all building materials came to around $2,000 (much of it in the coffered ceiling materials).

The project took around 2 months to complete from start to finish, of working on it after work each day. I'd estimate that there was about 100 hours in the ceiling construction, a great deal of that in paint work.

The columns/trim/doors/coffers are all done in a BM satin, which is the lightest shade of brown. The walls are of the same swatch, only one color darker, and in flat (to prevent light reflection from the bright projector). The ceiling is one color darker on the same swatch, also in flat. The vertical insides of the coffers behind the crown was also painted with the ceiling color to make the crown stand out more. The dark colors were all chosen to minimize any reflection from the screen.

Now that the room has a closet and an egress window, it can technically be counted as a 4th bedroom in my house when it comes time to sell.

Sound waves have length based on their frequency, called wavelength. Higher pitched sounds have shorter wavelengths. Any sounds which reach a full wavelength within the distance from the driver to the edge of the baffle are reflected back to the listener and sound louder, and any which leave the baffle before hitting a full wavelength are not, and are quieter as a result. This is called "baffle step loss".

One way to minimize this effect is to spread it out - if the tweeter is the same distance from two sides (or even three sides, if it's close to the top), the baffle reinforces the same frequency range in every direction. If you offset the tweeter so it's a different distance from each edge, it reinforces a slightly different frequency range in each direction, giving it a smoother response across the frequency range. This sounds better on its own, and may also make it easier for the designer to incorporate a "baffle step compensation" into the crossover, toning down the reinforced frequencies.

Another reason it's done, in "MTM" or bigger speakers with multiple low-frequency woofers and a single tweeter, is to get the big drivers a bit closer together.

Now, tweeters aren't always offset on homemade speakers. There are plenty of designs with centered tweeters, and some sound very good. And sometimes they're offset on commercial speakers. It just happens that a few very common DIY designs, like the Overnight Sensations here, use offset tweeters. If I had to guess, I'd say that commercial speakers are either more concerned about symmetry for aesthetics, or are designed using more custom components that make the baffle step easy to deal with, while DIY speakers are more likely to worry about getting the best performance possible without tricks.

Hooly shit, my dude

4-6k is super overkill

A super beast boss of a PC could cost you up to 1-2k, VR setup maximum 1k, and other peripherals will probably total 200-500.

The thing is, that's if you're going for the "maximum ultimate gamer" setup. You can do it for way cheaper; I got a decent setup for less than 1k total.

That said, I'm going to give you some good advice to help get you started.

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First, the PC.

Use the resources available to you at /r/buildapc or buy your own prebuilt. When going on this search, know the following:

• Unlike on consoles, your experience on PC is highly customizable; with better components, you can have better-looking and smoother-playing games.
  
  
• Different games require different amounts of "power" to run, and newer games always require more power than older ones.
  
  
• The hardware pricing for PCs is pretty close to the hardware pricing for consoles; in other words, spending a console amount of money on a PC will deliver a console-like experience on comparable games. That's good enough for a lot of people.
  
  
• Building a PC will be slightly cheaper than buying a pre-built PC with the same components, but the tradeoff is that you have to do your own setup and troubleshooting.
  
  
• Many PC gamers on reddit choose to go on the high end and spend thousands on their rigs, but that doesn't mean you have to; depending on the game, you can have a dandy time on a $300 laptop.
  
  
• In terms of specs, the most important component for your gaming experience when building / buying a gaming PC is the graphics card. Don't go too overboard with it; supporting components are also important, but the graphics card is typically where you can get the most bang-for-buck.
  
  
• Whatever else you choose, definitely get an NVME SSD. It will change your fucking life.
  
  Expect to spend around $600 - $1000 for a "basic" gaming PC, and around $2000 for a maxed-out top-tier PC.
  
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  Next, the peripherals. You will need the following:
  
  
• A monitor
  
  
• A mouse and mousepad
  
  
• A keyboard
  
  
• A headset and/or speakers + microphone
  
  You can use a PS4 controller with your PC via bluetooth, a dongle, or a wire.
  
  You also mentioned that you wanted a VR headset, so I'll cover that as well.
  
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  The Monitor
  
  The three most important features of a monitor are its resolution, panel type, and refresh rate.
  
  
• A higher resolution will make a higher-detail visual image to look at while gaming, but will require more horsepower from your PC
  
  
• A higher refresh rate will make for smoother motion during gaming, but will also require more horsepower from your PC.
  
  
• The panel type will determine the responsiveness and color depth of your monitor. TN sacrifices color for responsiveness, IPS sacrifices responsiveness for color, and VA is in-between.
  
  Most monitors are 1080p (shorthand for 1920x1080) resolution, with 60Hz refresh rate. This is just fine for gaming, and it's probably what your ACER monitor is. If you choose to upgrade, I highly recommend prioritizing a refresh rate upgrade; for gaming, upgrading to a 120Hz, 144Hz, or 240Hz refresh rate will blow your fucking mind, even at the same resolution (1920x1080).
  
  Here's a helpful site with suggestions on how to pick out a monitor and what monitors to buy. /r/buildapc also has a monitor buying guide.
  
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  The Mouse
  
  Selecting a gaming mouse is very personal; it's like selecting a weapon of choice with which to smite your enemies, and there isn't really much that makes any gaming mouse "better" than any other. Even wireless gaming mice have become responsive enough to be just as good as wired.
  
  I recommend Logitech G Series mice, and if you want, here's a gaming mouse reviewer's top 40 picks to sift through, with some advice on how to choose the right one.
  
  Do buy a proper gaming mouse, though; they're relatively cheap, and it makes a huge difference to your experience.
  
  Use a mousepad, but any mousepad is fine. SteelSeries makes "premium gaming mousepads", if you're after that, but they perform no better than your $5 bargain bin mousepad with a cat on it.
  
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  The Keyboard
  
  You'll be fine using whatever keyboard you have; it makes the smallest difference to your gaming experience out of any of the peripherals.
  
  However, if you want the best of the best, you can get a proper "gaming keyboard" with mechanical switches. Head over to /r/MechanicalKeyboards/ to go pick one out.
  
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  The Audio
  
  You're pretty much on your own for this one.
  
  Some good brands for headsets are Logitech, Corsair, and Razer, but beyond that I have no idea how to pick one.
  
  For speakers, I have no idea what's good. I use M-Audio AV32 speakers, and they work well for me, but there's a whole world of speakers to choose from.
  
  Regardless of what you choose or even if you use your own gear, make sure you have a microphone; it makes a huge difference playing multiplayer games, and you did mention you want to play with your friends.
  
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  The Headset
  
  Here are the major options to choose from:
  
  Oculus Rift S ($400)
  
  Pros:
  
  
• Cheapest
  
  
• No "base stations" required
  
  Cons:
  
  
• Owned by Facebook
  
  
• Minimum VR experience
  
  HTC Vive ($500) (or its associated upgrades)
  
  Pros:
  
  
• Better tracking, audio, and visuals than the Rift
  
  Cons:
  
  
• Requires "base stations"
  
  Valve Index ($1000)
  
  Pros:
  
  
• Top VR experience with best tracking, audio, and visuals
  
  
• Uses the best controllers (you can actually buy these controllers on their own for use with the Vive)
  
  
• Produced by Valve, who also produces SteamVR, which is the primary software backend for most VR games
  
  Cons:
  
  
• Most expensive
  
  
• Requires "base stations"
  
  I recommend the HTC Vive; in my opinion, it strikes the best balance between price and experience.
  
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  Hope all this helps!
  
  In the future, I recommend /r/buildapc and /r/pcgaming for these types of questions; they'll be better-equipped to point you in the right direction.

Micca MB42x + SMSL SA50 + Chromecast = about $194. You'd also need some speaker cable, and a 3.5mm to RCA cable.

Fluance SX6 if you want to bump up the speakers.

I'll make a list of stuff you need. For the best "bang for your buck" in the $200ish price range.

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Speaker wire. Amazon Basics makes great stuff. If you want, you can get 100 feet of it for an extra $2 I think. You can get those monoprice banana plugs if you want. They just help if you're going to be switching speakers around a lot.

Simple wire stripper. Should work just fine.

Cable to plug it in. That'll just plug the amp into a computer. And that cable is amazing quality. For real. I don't know what it is about it, but the moment I touched that cable I knew it was special. This isn't a joke either. You'll understand when you get one. Trust me.

50 watt per channel amp. This thing will be more than enough. I just like it because it is open box, so cheap. The same one new on amazon is $65. If you want to order from amazon, you can just get the smsl sa-36a. Same amp, just 20 watts per channel. Which, again, is plenty.

[Here's that cheaper smsl amp] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017W13OR0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_U2NSBbTRHGFS5). I've got a few of them. They're great. This is what I'd go for if the other one is sold out.

Cheap but good little amp. I don't have one of these because I'm not a fan of the looks, but they get great reviews and a lot of people really like them.

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Speakers:

Miccas. These things are nice for that price. In this price range, you really won't be getting anything better unless you go DIY.

Fluance SX6. These guys are big, but they throw a good amount of sound and some pretty deep bass for a pair of bookshelf speakers. Careful, they're pretty big.

Pioneer. These things are decent, but I think the Fluances would be better for this price. The SX6s throw more bass, which is good if you're not getting a sub. However, these are smaller.

Fluance signature series. I know, you said your budget is only $200, but you said if you need to spend more, then you will. These will sound better than all of the other speakers linked, however, that's not why they're here. I put them here for two reasons. The first is that they're front ported. Most people that are new to speakers might put them up against a wall or close to it, not understanding that the port needs some room to breathe. These have front ports so that's not a problem. The second reason, just look at them. If you really care about looks, these ones are the ones. They're beautiful. (My opinion obviously).

Oof almost forgot. Pleaae don't place the speakers directly on your desk.

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That's a lot. I'll sum it up with my opinion and why.

Amp: smsl sa36a. For close range, you don't need anything with more power. This thing will do whatever you need for bookshelf speakers.

Speakers: micca mb42x. Why? Here's why: for this price range, you won't notice a huge difference in any speakers, unless you get some bad ones. So, get the cheapest ones you can. Later on, if you can afford to upgrade them, you'll probably want to do that. Then you'll have a pair of $80 speakers that you don't need rather than a pair of 130 speakers that you don't need. Another reason I would pick the miccas is because they punch above their price range. Most people say they sound more like a pair of $125 speakers rather than a pair of $80 speakers. So, for real, they're good. Also, they're the smallest of the bunch.

Or, build a pair of C Notes and get something way better than any of these.

Hope this helps!

Sure, they are $120 new.

Alternatives:

Powered/Active: 4" Edifiers start at $70. Edifier R980T or larger 5" Swan D1080-IV $140 or Fluance Ai40 $200

Amp+Passive:

$53 Bundle 6-1/2" 2-Way Bookshelf Speaker Pair and Hi-Fi Mini Amplifier

Mini amps:

Kinter K2020A $33. SMSL SA50 $67, Dayton Audio DTA-120BT $75, Micca OriGain $80 or $100 with USB DAC, more at Zeos AMP and DAC guide.

Speakers:

AverageJoe's Speaker List

Polk Audio T15 $50

Micca MB42X $80

Pioneer SP-BS22-LR 4" Bookshelf Speakers (Pair) $68 or if sale is over, PIONEERSP-BS22-LR $90

Sony SSCS5 3-Way 3-Driver Bookshelf Speaker $73

DIY C-notes $100

Clearance sale dual 5.25" Polk Audio Monitor 40 Series $100

Speaker wire and self adjusting wire strippers or basic.

Subwoofer:

Franklin Audio FPS10 10" 100 Watt Powered Subwoofer $90 with $10 off coupon

• The Denon AVR you'll have to buy from Accessories4Less.com
  
• The PB-1000 is available from Amazon, click used and new and look down the list for IQ HOME ENTERTAINMENT
  
• The HTD Components will need to come from them directly Home Theater Direct
  
• Polk OMW-3 are available here

Probably something like this then:

• Receiver: Denon X1300 for $400, has Audyssey MultEQ XT and is the lowest Denon/Marantz model which will have Dolby Vision and HLG support (HLG likely being the format for HDR cable broadcasting).
  
  
• Subwoofer: BIC F12 for $190+applicable tax.
  
  That leaves about $400 for speakers:
  
  
• Fronts: Fluance Signature bookshelves + matching center for $350 (same price if you get both in Walnut color on Amazon).
  
  
• Surrounds: Dayton Air's for <$70.
  
  If you want to downgrade the sub or receiver you can, the ones I picked are pretty much the crossing point between acceptable and commendable.
  
  For cables/wires:
  
  Wires: 100ft of 14awg oxygen-free.
  
  Subwoofer cable: 25ft (get longer or shorter based on required distance).
  
  Connectors: Open-screw banana plugs, these just make wiring simpler. Probably won't fit on the wall-mounted sides, but I'd get 2 orders, so all the fronts have connection as well as all 5 outputs from the receiver (so 8 pair), doing all the wiring normally is a pain in the ass. They work like so.
  
  Placement os speakers:
  
  
  • Front stereo: Aimed at your heads when sitting. Take your distance from the tv to your couch and multiply that by 0.6 (or 2 x tan(17^o )), that's the preferred minimum for how far apart the front speakers should be from each other, they should also be angled towards the center of the listening are (or halfway between that and being fully forward facing).
    
    
  • Center: As close to level with the tv as possible, angled to aim at your heads when sitting. When on a shelf/cabinet, move it as close forward as possible, you don't want it recessed.
    
    
  • Surrounds: Diagram, between perpendicular and 20^o pushed back, ideally aimed at the center of the seating. They are ideally mounted with the teeters being 2ft-3ft above the ear level.
    
    
  • Subwoofer: Do the sub crawl: Audioholics' video and Zeos' video. What I do is use an app and my AppleTV to play specific frequency notes, and then alternate between a handful of frequencies between 25Hz to 100Hz to see which spot best covers that range (I'd disconnect the fronts as well (pull out one banana plug from each stereo speaker)). My goto songs to test bass are 'Losin Control' by Russ (bass at 44s is damn good) and 'Big For Your Boots' by Stormzy(bass at like 25s and 38s is insane)
    
    While not needed, a Harmony remote makes things so much easier, I have the 650.

If I had a $1500 budget, I would recommend the following:

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Epson Home Cinema 2150 - $699.00

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Micca MB42X - $79.95

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Micca MB42X Center - $69.95

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Fluance AVBP2 - $119.99

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Denon AVR S530BT - $229.00

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Silver Ticket 120" Screen - $249.98

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This would give you a decent entry level setup. You'll have about 50$ left over for speaker wire. I am be no means an expert but I lurk a lot and I think this would be decent.

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Edifier Speaker sale (26%-30% off):

• Edifier R1280T - $87.49
  
• Edifier R1010BT - $61.99
  
• Edifier R1280DB - $113.74
  
• Edifier R1850DB - $174.99
  
• Edifier R980T - $71.99
  
  Edit - sound tests:
  
  
• R1280T vs R1280DB
  
• R1010TB vs R1700BT
  
• R1850DB vs R1280DB
  
• R980T - Not English but best I could find

Seriously check out /r/hometheater

But be warned, that place can be dangerous.

Here is my current set up:

AVR : Sony 7.2

Center : Klipsch RP-250C

Fronts : Klipsch R-14M

Rears : Klipsch R-14S

Sub : Bic America 12

I deff spent less than $1000 and I love my set up. One thing that saved me a lot of money was buying open box on Ebay from an authorized seller. The other nice thing about piecing it together like this is that you can very easily upgrade one set of speakers over time.

I bet they're absolute trash.

https://www.amazon.com/Micca-COVO-S-Compact-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B00N8265I8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498973961&sr=8-1&keywords=micca+covo-s

These will sound way better

And when you save up you can get a real subwoofer.

https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SUB-800-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0063NU30K/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1498974072&sr=1-1&keywords=dayton+audio+sub+800

To build a system using the minimum recommendations from this sub, let's start with this diagram: http://i.imgur.com/Z8FMJ.png
DAC is optional, so is a subwoofer but I recommend one.

DAC: Behringer UCA202 $29.99 Link: http://amzn.com/B000KW2YEI

Amplifier: SMSL SA-50 $68.99 Link: http://amzn.com/B00F0H8TOC

Subwoofer: Dayton Audio SUB-800 $99.00 Link: http://amzn.com/B0063NU30K

Bookshelf Speakers: Micca MB42X $89.00 Link: http://amzn.com/B00E7H8GG2

Wire: 16-gauge Speaker Wire $8.00 Link: http://amzn.com/B006LW0WDQ

With DAC, this cable: Stereo Male to 2 RCA Male $5 Link: http://amzn.com/B00I0HPK6O

Without DAC, this cable: Monoprice 105597 3-Feet Premium Stereo Male to 2RCA Male $5 Link: http://amzn.com/B0094A1F3S

This is a great starter system, I would have loved to had something like this starting out.
All of these pieces can be upgraded, do your research. Look for sales etc. Good luck and have fun.

Dayton Audio B652-AIR 6-1/2"

Dayton Audio B452 4-1/2"

Yamaha NS-SW100BL 10"

Dayton Audio C452-AIR Dual 4-1/2"

Yamaha RX-V483BL 5.1-Channel

I believe that they already come with the requisite cables and wires.
You won't want to upgrade for a long time.

There is nothing wrong with your choices except if you have money I would not get the Lepai. Either of the speakers you picked would work fine but I'll give you some other options.

Budget is $250 so lets see how we can spend it.

• SMSL SA-50 $70 Nothing wrong with this guy. That gives us about $180 bucks left for speakers.
  
  
• Option 1 - Fluance XL7S $180 These are the higher series Fluance so I would expect better performance from them. The wife might like the looks too.
  
  
• Option 2 - Philharmonic Affordable Accuracy Monitor $165 These are upgraded versions of the already good Pioneer BS22 speakers.
  
  
• Option 3 - Pioneer BS22 $100 + Dayton 800 sub Right over your budget but would sound great. I know you don't want a sub but I really think you're going to miss out on the low stuff without one. You could also get these without the sub they actually do pretty well on their own.
  
  
• Option 4 - Boston Acoustic XS 2.1 $160 another 2.1 set but with really small speakers. The powered sub included will cover the the low end as the main speakers don't go low at all.
  
  
• Option 5 Energy CB5 $102 + dayton sub above. These are smaller than the Pioneers so you'll need the sub but I think these could also fit the bill.
  

$260 for those Miccas is borderline ridiculous. You can get much better speakers for less. I'd prefer either of the below for significantly less money:

• $140 for Pioneer BS22 L/R speakers
  
  
• $180 for Fluance SX6 L/R speakers

These are amazingly good for the price. The 8-inch woofer provides great bass, though they are a little larger than most desktop speakers.

You will have to get a receiver and with that budget, you will have to buy a refurbished receiver to get anything for your money. Amazon is selling a good yamaha 5.1 receiver below:

http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-HTR-3066-R-5-1-Channel-Refurbished-Receiver/dp/B00IWURW6U/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1404937723&sr=8-10&keywords=yamaha+receiver

Then you can get a pair of bookshelf speakers to start:

http://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1404937847&sr=8-1&keywords=micca+speakers

This would be a pretty decent 2.0 setup. Over time you can purchase a subwoofer:

http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Dynamo-300-Theater-Subwoofer/dp/B004LRPXAU/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1404938019&sr=8-16&keywords=subwoofer

This whole setup can be expanded to a 3.1, 4.1, or 5.1 setup by purchasing another set (or 2 sets) of bookshelf speakers.

$300 for 2.1?

Bookshelf speakers: Pioneer BS21

Amplifier: AudioSource AMP100 runs 50w at 8ohm. It will be plenty clear and loud.

Subwoofer: Dayton SUB-100 - 100w powered subwoofer

spend the rest on speaker wire and shipping. You're going to want to plug your source into the amplifier via a 3.5mm to RCA cable. Then wire the amplifier into the subwoofer. Wire out of the subwoofer to the speakers and that's it.

I have the same speakers & subwoofer, but a different amp (similar power rating). It sounds really good if everything is positioned well. Enjoy.

Studio monitors, or powered monitors in general can work great in a 2.0 or 2.1 system. Broadly, they will be much more "hi-fi" than the Pro Media's will be; but also more expensive, especially when you factor in adding subwoofer.

The Klipsch's run ~$140 retail, and at that price you can begin to build a solid budget 2.1 set up.

There a few good solutions at this point, my personal favorite would be:

• Infinity Primus p143 bookshelf's Sold individually, but when they go on sale on amazon you can get them for 35-40 each ~$80
  
  
• SMSL SA-50 amp ~$70
  
  This puts you @ $150
  
  Adding this sub would get you up to $230 but also complete a system that would be world better than the Klipsch or anyother 2.1 system commonly used for computers.
  
  
• Dayton Sub-800 ~$80
  
  
  

Ok, how about this....
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/pionvsx530k/pioneer-vsx-530-k-5.1-ch-x-80-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html

Cheapest new AVR youll find= 120$

2 sets of these. Used, very good condition = 70$
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B009IUIV4A/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1496712733&sr=8-1&keywords=mb42

1 of these. Used very good condition = 35$
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00HH2GINM/ref=sr_1_3_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1496712733&sr=8-3&keywords=mb42

And 1 of these = 110$ or the sub-1000 for 10$ more
https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SUB-800-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0063NU30K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496712905&sr=8-1&keywords=dayton+sub+800

Thats about as good as youll get for 350 for 5.1 that wont sound like total garbage. You can also look at used, but thats a non guaranteed crapshoot.

Appears to be the same price on Amazon Prime.

This seems to be a well liked receiver here, is it a highly recommended intro level one?

Denon E-300

4 hdmi, 5.1, $250. Denon is a solid brand and even this entry model has Audyssey room correction.

easier to just throw out a few recommendations. the OP can take them or leave them afterall.

on a tight budget it's hard to beat these Micca's.

a step up from there would be Fluance. They're nearly twice as large but also exceptional for the price.

>And I don’t understand speaker setups all that much.

That's your biggest hurdle right there. What are you wanting? I've ran a good stereo-only home theater, and a good 2.1 setup before. I'd rather have either of those than a poor quality 5.1.

Soundbars typically replace quality with quantity. They became popular when TVs started getting real thin and having crap sound. a $2-300 powered speaker setup will have better sound. And if you don't want wires around the room, that's a good place to start.

Get something like these Klipsch R-15PM. You can use them now as-is and add a sub later. That will be a pretty damn solid 2.1 setup.

Or get an AMP and separate SPEAKERS. (Just examples). You can have a good system pretty easily.

TV Samsung UN55KS8000 - $1,799.99 Reason why I am going w/ the 55 is most manufcaturers don;t really make 60's anymore. if they do they aren't the best of their models.

As for the sound system

Receiver: http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/yamrxv579bl/yamaha-rx-v579-7.2-ch-x-80-watts-networking-a/v-receiver/1.html#!specifications

bookshelfs https://www.amazon.com/Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Andrew-Jones/dp/B014GSEQ06

center https://www.amazon.com/Debut-Center-Speaker-Andrew-Jones/dp/B014GSEQWE/

surrounds https://www.amazon.com/Fluance-AVBP2-Surround-Satellite-Speakers/dp/B00067OLOS/

subwoofer http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/stf-2.html

should put you right at $1500

you can go from the elac B6's down to the B5's to save $100

Don't scrimp on the subwoofer, especially in your situation. Consider the sub as an air pump and your room as the receptacle. The fact that no one listens in the area behind the room (or rest of the house) is of no consequence, the sub will try and pressurize it just the same.

In your case, with that budget I'd do this:

Surrounds $120: https://smile.amazon.com/Fluance-AVBP2-Surround-Satellite-Speakers/dp/B00067OLOS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467120062&sr=8-1&keywords=fluance+bipolar

Subwoofer $365: http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/stf-2.html

You may need to add a second STF-2 nearfield if you want realistic (felt) rumble and such. The STF-2 will work in rooms of up to 3000 square feet. The F12 would be anemic in your setup.

This is my grandpa's turn table that he bought sometime around the 80's and took to Ecuador. Asked my dad to bring it back to the states so I could have something to remember him by.
Did a little research bought a Pre-amp and set it up with these Speakers and i couldnt be happier with the sound im getting from them.

I personally don't know much about the Micca MB42, but the Klipsch R-15M is $187 right now. the Klipsch R-14M is $170. I really like the sound of the Klipsch R-15M.

Sound quality is not a term I would use to describe either.

In both cases we are talking about a bunch of $5 "full range" drivers stuffed in a tiny housing. Up-firing Atmos doesn't work well with the best of speakers, so having them in a soundbar adds no value.

I will recommend a cheap pair of bookshelf speakers and external amp instead.

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-SSCS5-3-Driver-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B00O8YLMVA/

https://www.amazon.com/S-M-S-L-AD18-Amplifier-Bluetooth-Subwoofer/dp/B071JN7GXN

You could also get a used AV receiver to save some money on the amp and get better speakers instead. If your budget allows, also get an entry level subwoofer like a Dayton SUB-1200 for $150.

They already have a Logitech mouse.
Get a nice IPS monitor and a mech keyboard, that'll give you the most enjoyment for your dollar:

 

Acer G227HQL 21.5-Inch HD IPS Monitor $99.99
https://www.amazon.com/Acer-G227HQL-Abi-21-5-Inch-Widescreen/dp/B00JB6HCHI/

It's IPS and 21.5" @ 1080P, which gives you a nice, high pixel density.

 

Logitech G610 Orion Brown Backlit Mechanical Gaming Keyboard $79.99
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CDYB8F6

It's Logitech, so it'll match your mouse, the Cherry MX Brown key switches will be a pleasure to type on and its just a white backlight instead of tacky RGB.

 

Then get a gaming mat for your keyboard and mouse:

 

Black Extended Gaming Mouse Mat / Pad - XXL Large $14.99
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014OOWMHQ/

Its big and no branding, so it won't look tacky.

 

After that, maybe some nice desktop speakers:

 

M-Audio AV32 | 10-Watt Compact Studio Monitor Speakers $79.99
https://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-10-Watt-Compact-Monitor-Speakers/dp/B00X741TKG/

These will blow away your OontZ Angle.

I know it’s nothing special, but this is my macsetup! I work primarily on video editing projects, some Photoshopping, with some Wordpress website building sprinkled in there. But this setup is used mostly for generic browsing, YouTube/Netflix, and Plex server hosting.


So this is my setup that I’ve built over the course of 4 years.

• Monitor - ASUS Designo MX279H 27”
  
• Wallpapers - Reddit user u/aenami
  
• Computer - Apple 13” Retina MacBook Pro (Late 2013), 4GB RAM, 128 GB SSD
  
• Computer Stand - twelvesouth HiRise for MacBook
  
• Desk mat - PRÖJS from IKEA
  
• Keyboard - Apple Magic Keyboard (AA battery version)
  
• Mouse - Logitech MX Master Wireless Mouse
  
• Tablet - Apple iPad Air 2, 64 GB, Gold
  
• Tablet Stand - Griffin A-Frame
  
• Phone - Apple iPhone 6, 64 GB, Space Grey
  
• Phone Stand - Twelve South HiRise for iPhone/iPad
  
• Speakers - M-Audio AV32
  
• Headphones - Audio-Technica ATH-M50x
  
• USB Power Hub - Not sure exactly what brand it is, but it’s similar to this one.
  
• USB Data Hub - Anker USB 3.0 7-Port Hub
  
• WD easystore 8TB (Not pictured)
  
• 2x - Western Digital 4TB My Book
  
• 2x - Western Digital 2TB My Passport
  Hard Drive Toaster - StarTech.com HDD Docking Station
  
• UPS - APC Back-UPS Pro 1500VA UPS (Not pictured)
  
  
  Little sumo man was a gift from a friend. Custom R2-series astromech droid was purchased a trip to Disney Paris. And I name my external hard drives after characters in movies and TV shows that I enjoy.
  
  
  Let me know if you have any questions!

I recently purchased a town house, after renting a room for several years. Didn't have any furniture other than the bedroom essentials, so I had a pretty blank slate to work with.

I realize the layout isn't ideal, given the lighting and open floor layout (opens up to the dining room and kitchen), but I was more concerned with having a good hangout environment than having the prefect viewing experience. The only other option was an above ground basement, which would have had the same lighting issue, though better acoustics.

The lighting isn't as bad as it appears in the picture, imo. I've never really had a problem with it, though I do spend most of my time relaxing in the evenings when there is no direct sunlight coming from those windows. Even then, the Samsung seems to handle it well.


EDIT:
Additional pictures of the cable management.

https://i.imgur.com/iPxbpNz.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/6pkdjpH.jpg

For the wall I used some 1/4" shaped wiremold from Home Depot. Sanded and spray painted it to match the existing 1/4" Round. For the rest of the power cables and such, I modified the middle drawer of an Ikea cabinet to hide them away and give me easy access. I'm still not quite sure what to do about the remaining outlet wires, but other than that there aren't any other visible cables.


EDIT 2:
Since I've been asked about pretty much every piece short of the coffee table, I figured I would update this post to consolidate that info. Most of these items I bought used or on sale.

TV - Samsung KS8500 65"

Reciever - Denon AVR-S720W

Speakers - ELAC UB5/UC5/UB5, Surrounds - B4

Subwoofer - Bic Acoustech PL-200 12"

Entertainment Center - Modified BESTÅ from Ikea

Speaker Stands - Sanus SF30 Steel Series

Couch - Corey Sectional from Havertys

Art - Patent Collections from Displate

Rug - [Safavieh Glacier from Overstock](https://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Safavieh-Glacier-Contemporary-Abstract-Blue-Multi-
Area-Rug-6-7-x-9-67-x-9/14248766/product.html)

Bookshelves - Parthenia Etagere Bookcase from Wayfair

Coffee Table - Baxton Studio Wood/Metal End Table

First step: have you read noaudiophile's reviews? He does very thorough reviews on a lot of budget speakers, and has corrections for many of the popular options. His corrections for the Infinity P163s that I'm currently using made them sound like completely different speakers.

First let's start with powered options:

The Micca PB42X would be a good option. They are basically a powered version of the MB42X so you don't need to purchase a separate amp. Also in the similar realm that get recommended here a lot would be the Swans D1010 and the Edifier R1280T.

Personally I'm a bigger fan of passive speakers, as you get a lot more options to expand your system.

Pioneer BS22 bookshelf speakers are great and have gone on sale quite a bit lately for $70-80/pair.

Dayton B652 I am currently using as my surround speakers, but people rave about them as a budget desktop option

Micca MB42X also get great reviews.

You could also go used for your speakers, but sometimes it can be hard to parse through all the junk out there if you don't know what you're looking for.

Take any of those passive options and pair them up with an inexpensive amp like this SMSL or Lepai for a good budget setup.

I would also recommend checking your local Craigslist or Facebook marketplace for a used receiver, you could pick up a very decent one for just a few bucks and have a great starting setup. This will give you a lot more powerful amp, and the ability later to easily add a subwoofer or expand to surround sound. Personally I'm using an older Sony home theater receiver at my desk, it's old enough that it doesn't have HDMI or optical inputs, someone was just giving it away so I snagged it.

I personally am more open to sound bars than many people here, I have one on all of my TVs except my main HT system.

That being said, if this is your main HT system I'd see if you can swing this:

Denon AVR-S530BT Refurb Receiver for $150:
https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrs530bt/denon-avr-s530bt-5.2-ch-x-70-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html

Pair of Micca MB42X speakers for $90:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E7H8GG2

Total = $240

If you absolutely can't go much above $200 then get the Dayton Audio B652-AIR speakers for $67 at the link below or get the above speakers used on Amazon for a little cheaper.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NOA58RS

The nice thing about the Micca's is they have a matching center channel (on the same Amazon page) that you could add later on to upgrade your system. And with that receiver you could eventually add a center, a sub, and 2 rear speakers for a full 5.1 surround setup. Even if you don't want anything more than 2.0 anytime soon it's best to give yourself options down the road in case you change your mind.

So I'm trying to figure out how you have those powered speakers wired up and I'm assuming you are running your turntable into the phono pre and then possibly using the tape output to send a signal to the powered computer speakers? If so, you are effectively using the receiver as a giant phono preamp and nothing more.

You seem like somebody that probably has sixty bucks.......do you have sixty bucks?

If you have sixty bucks, do yourself a favour and buy these:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00NOA58RS/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1492311449&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=dayton+audio+speakers&dpPl=1&dpID=41rcGu0d4FL&ref=plSrch

You already have everything you need and I doubt you will find better speakers for $60 (read the reviews) unless you scour the used market.

Start with a 5.1 receiver and 2 speakers and add the other speakers later.

This
https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/yamrxv383bl/yamaha-rx-v383-5.1-ch-x-70-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html

Plus 1 pair of :

https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2

Or

https://www.amazon.com/Fluance-SX6-BK-Definition-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers-Black/dp/B00IEDL8EM

Or

https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG

Or

https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-MK402X-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B07TB1P7XJ

Or

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-SSCS5-3-Driver-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B00O8YLMVA

But surround is for TV/Movies - most who have surround sound listen to music in 2 speaker stereo mode

If mostly Music you could get a 2 channel receiver and a pair of speakers or Powered speakers which don’t need a receiver

This with any of the speakers above

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-STRDH190-Stereo-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B078WFDR8D

Or powered speakers

https://www.amazon.com/Fluance-Bookshelf-Amplifier-Turntable-Bluetooth/dp/B07CLDGXX1

https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1700BT-Bluetooth-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B016PATXSI

https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-Bookshelf-Subwoofer-Bluetooth-Wireless/dp/B077Y6PHKQ

Alternate speakers:

Sony SSCS5 - $118

Polk RTIA1 - $200

Elac Debut 2.0 B6.2 - $300

Q Acoustics 3020 - $270

Klipsch R-15M - $186

Klipsch RP-150M - $335(best speakers on this list)

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Marshal is a good brand of Guitar Amplifiers, but not the best. The WHO, for example, used Marshal Cases but put EARTH Amps inside. They had a sponsor deal with Marshal.

But £435 for a tiny Marshal Bluetooth speaker? You could by a Stereo Amp, add 8" bookshelf speakers, and add a Bluetooth Receiver for about $320

Avantree Bluetooth Receiver - $40 to $50 -

https://www.amazon.com/Avantree-Bluetooth-Transmitter-Receiver-Headphones/dp/B00LAZ6RTW

https://www.amazon.com/Avantree-Bluetooth-Transmitter-Receiver-Headphones/dp/B072BMF2LP

Yamaha RS202, 100w/ch Stereo Receiver with Bluetooth - $129 -

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_022RS202/Yamaha-R-S202.html?tp=47041

Notice the above amp already has BLUETOOTH Capability, so your don't really need the Avantree Bluetooth Receiver.

Yamaha NS-6490, 8", 3-way Sealed Speakers - $130/pr -

https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-NS-6490-Bookshelf-Speakers-Finish/dp/B00018Q4GA

• $130 = Yamaha RS202 Receiver with Bluetooth
  
• $130 = Yamaha NS-6490 8" Speaker PAIR
  
• $_50 = Avantree Bluetooth Receiver/Transmitter
  
• ------------------------
  
• $310 = Total
  
  More realistically -
  
  
• $130 = Yamaha RS202 Receiver with Bluetooth
  
• $130 = Yamaha NS-6490 8" Speaker PAIR
  
• ------------------------
  
• $260 = Total
  
  Certainly your choice, but why buy a toy stereo when you can get the real thing for less money.
  
  If want to connect the very substantial system to your TV for Movie watching, that would be an extra $20, which is still far less than the Marshal.
  
  FIIO DAC Optical/Coaxial - $20 -
  
  https://www.amazon.com/D03K-Digital-Analog-Audio-Converter/dp/B009346RSS
  
  In reality, this is all you really need assuming you intend to connect to a TV as well as Bluetooth.
  
  
• $130 = Yamaha RS202 Receiver with Bluetooth
  
• $130 = Yamaha NS-6490 8" Speaker PAIR
  
• $_20 = FIIO D3 24b/192k DAC (digital to analog converter)
  
• ------------------------
  
• $280 = Total
  
  That is a full size, full power Stereo System, that is, yes larger, but a lot more versatile than a small single purpose Bluetooth speaker.
  

I'm a noobie. The only speaker system I've had before is a [Logitech z623 Computer speakers] (https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/speaker-system-z623?crid=47) which was satisfactory until the subwoofer started rattling at high volumes and one of the speakers stopped working. I want to get a full set-up so I've been learning everything I can. I want a good set up for house parties, generally playing rap and electronic music. My budget is $250-500.
Willing to buy used, just always paranoid I'll buy something in bad shape.

These are the parts that I am currently contemplating buying:

Speakers -- I can't decide between tower or bookshelf. I have read that bookshelf speakers can be a better bang for your buck, so I would love some suggestions. Speakers are suppose to be the most important part of the set up so I've tried to pick out decent options, but very willing to go cheap if there are any good deals.

Bookshelf option:

• Fluance SX6W High Definition Two-Way Bookshelf Loudspeakers $150
  
  
• Yamaha NS-6490 3-Way Bookshelf Speakers $130
  
  Craigslist for Bookshelf
  
  Tower options:
  
  
• Polk Audio Monitor70 Series II Floorstanding Loudspeaker (Black) Single $276 for pair
  
  or the cheaper version
  
  
• Polk Audio Monitor 60 Series II Floorstanding $190 for pair
  
  or dirt cheap option
  
  
• Dayton Audio T652 Dual 6-1/2" 2-Way Tower Speaker Pair $119 pair
  
  Craiglist for Towers
  
  
• Someone is currently offering B&W (Bower & Wilkins) DM-630 Large Tower Speakers for $275 -- Worth?
  
  Subwoofer:
  
  
  
• Polk Audio PSW10 10-Inch Powered Subwoofer Found this for $73, usually $110.
  This product seemed to be at a great price for its quality, so for now I think this is what I'm gonna get but very open to suggestions.
  
  
• Martin Logan Dynamo 300 $200. This is probably too pricey for me, but is suppose to be the best in its class.
  
  
• Dayton Audio SUB-1200 12" 120 Watt Powered Subwoofer $150. I've thought about going with a 12" considering I listen to a lot of rap and electronic.
  
  Craigslist for Subwoofers
  
  
  Still doing research on DAC's, Amps and Receivers, probably just gonna go with a receiver for simplicity's sake.
  
  EDIT: Wait can I just get these JBL LSR305 Professional Studio Monitor with the built in amps and then just have to buy a DAC? or would I still need a receiver if I wanted to add a subwoofer?

We're gonna need your budget in order to help. But A 2.1 setup is definitley the way to go to upgrade ehar you have. Sell those. They are very popular. If you want strictly a computer speaker setup, a 2 channel amp is probably fine. My bestbuy has a really weak bookshelf speaker selection, but you probably at least have the pioneer andrew jones speakers. They are well reviewed. If you have a nice discount they might be a good idea. Also a simple rule is the bigger they are, the louder and lower they get.

/r/zeos has a good 2.1 guide and /r/budgetaudiophile has great extensive speaker recommendation list. If you want to really rock, the pioneers may not be ideal.


These yamaha are massive bangers to blow your face off.

http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-NS-6490-Bookshelf-Speakers-Finish/dp/B00018Q4GA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1421977443&sr=8-3&keywords=yamaha+speakers

2 of these would be good too. Smaller.

http://www.amazon.com/Infinity-Primus-Two-way-Bookshelf-Satellite/dp/B0045NCB32/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1421977463&sr=8-2&keywords=infinity+primus



Smsl amp http://www.amazon.com/SMSL-TDA7492-Integrated-Tripath-Amplifier/dp/B00F0H8TOC

Sub http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0015A8Y5M/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1421962220&sr=8-1


But read through the the zeos guide and the sidebars.

I agree, get a pair of the Fluance SX6 with an amp like the SMSL SA50 or the Lepy if you don't want to go over budget. This combination will blow anything else for 200 dollars out the water. You could add a subwoofer somewhere down the line as well.

Just get these:
https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-15PM-Powered-Monitor-Black/dp/B01A7J534G

And this:
http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-sub-1500-15-150-watt-powered-subwoofer--300-634

And you're done

Klipsch r-15pm's might do you pretty good.

Some people dont like the klipsch horns but I really enjoy my rp-280f's. Might want to add a sub to that if you want better bass, but that's a concern with all the speakers you listed as well.

Elac UB5 is on sale over at Amazon for $400. I have to admit I too, like many others fell victim to the hype and became giddy and incontinent with excitement when they were released.

I mean, even Patrick Norton sounded like a Justin Beiber fanboy when he interviewed Andrew Jones for Tested. Squeee!

Unfortunately, I was of the 2 people that weren't blown away by the UE5 (/u/strategicdeceiver was probably the other). To me the super-innovative engineering (did you see the crossover inside the belly of this beast?) did not match the way the end-product sounded. It's a perfectly competent sounding speaker, just not one of the greats.

Having said that, it's a very good choice for folks looking for a decent pair of bookshelves for $400.

And having said that, there are other options with different sound profiles on sale right now for around the same price though, for example the MA Bronze 2 and the KEF Q300

How do you like those speakers? I was thinking about buying myself a pair. They're the Klipsch R-14M's right?

Amp

NAD 3020 V2 ($399) has:

• Phono pre-amp
  
• Optical-in for your movies
  
• Subwoofer out
  
  Turntable
  
  U-Turn Audio ($309) have gotten good reviews from the few people I know that have picked one up. They look nice and do their job.
  
  Speakers
  
  This is way trickier and way more personal, I personally have had very good luck with used gear from Swans, Canton, Mirage, Chario and JBL that I would have never been able to afford new and have been very happy with. The only speakers I've gotten brand new recently were the Elac B6 and I enjoyed them too.
  
  Some options with the rest of your budget ~$500
  
  Wharfedale Denton 80th (~$500) Absolutely beautiful, review well, I only had a brief listen in person so can't entirely vouch but I liked what I heard
  
  Elac UB5 (~$400) Very nice bookshelf, the concentric set up for the mid range and tweeter is nice and slick and fits a 3 way design into a bookshelf footprint nicely.
  
  Monitor Audio Bronze 2 (~$500) Again, lovely design, enjoyed them when I auditioned them but ended up going with some used Cantons that time.

Well yes you can get a t-amp($50) and a small powered sub($130). The next step would truly be better speakers. I am sure those are atrocious.

If you can stretch your budget to $280, these would the best option. The JBL's are breathtaking powered monitors for the price: http://www.amazon.com/JBL-Professional-LSR305-Studio-Monitor/dp/B00DUKP37C

A very good powered speaker option for $180: http://www.amazon.com/Audioengine-Premium-Powered-Desktop-Speaker/dp/B000VKEFMS

If you're serious about your budget, you could also do passive speakers:
Lepai 2020 amp ($20): http://www.amazon.com/Lepai-LP-2020A-Tripath-Class-T-Amplifier/dp/B0049P6OTI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1413670794&sr=8-1&keywords=lepai+2020

Teac LS-H265 ($90 a pair): http://www.amazon.com/Teac-LS-H265-2-Way-Speaker-System/dp/B004R929AY/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1413670989&sr=1-1&keywords=teac+ls-h265

Those Teacs have pretty punchy bass for its size, but if you find yourself lacking some low end ($90): http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SUB-800-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0063NU30K/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1413671025&sr=1-1&keywords=dayton+sub+800

The final system is $200 total, or $110 without the subwoofer.

For your situation I would recommend a smaller, decent quality sub. It will be good for music (which doesn't see a lot of action below 40Hz) and add sufficient bottom end to enhance movies over lessor speakers (but true SUB junkies may sneer). And you can use bookshelf speakers without worrying about missing the lower notes. I think an 8" model would be ideal.

Apparently, I haven't shopped for an inexpensive 8" sub in a while, and all my go-to items are now discontinued or replaced, but I'll list them anyway as they have some limited availability new, or on the used market. (Prices are USD.)

The HSU STF-1 (used as they no longer seem to be made) might be good. (The $400 VTF-1 seems like overkill in your situation.)

You can sometimes get good deals on the $200 Martin Logan Dynamo 300, which is pretty nice, my son has one, we picked up for not much over $100.

And a lot of folks appreciated the Pioneer SW-8. (Discontinued - now the $160 SW-8Mk2, which can frequently be had for < $120.)

*Edit: Don't feel compelled to match the manufacturer of the sub to the rest of your speakers. There have been a number of good budget subs out there, and all will work well with the Wharfedales, not just a Wharfedale sub.

That receiver you linked to is only a radio receiver. You should look at something like this or this. Higher end receivers may not always give you better sound quality as that has a lot to do with speakers as well. I think you're better off with something mid-range like the links provided. The E300 has airplay which is nice if you have wifi and an iphone.

Hi Zeos. Thank you for sharing all your knowledge and taking the time to educate and answer others.

I bought this HTiB about 2 years ago before I knew anything about audio/visual equipment. Everything is in good working condition. I started stalking /r/audiophile, /r/headphones, and /r/hometheater and came across /r/zeos. Reading up on your posts about 2.0/2.1 and 5.0/5.1 systems has made me think whether I should change my setup.

I'm currently using my system for watching streamed TV/movies and also for listening to music streamed from my android/computer to my Chromecast. I do not have a DVD or Blueray player. However, this is in a small room, about 11'x20'. Note that the TV/couch orientation uses the 11' distance and not the 20' distance. After looking at your diagrams for a 5.1 system, I noticed I have absolutely no room behind my couch since my couch is right up against the wall. This makes me think I'm not really taking advantage of a 5.1 system. I'm also not planning to upgrade the room size for another 3-5 years.

Would you suggest trying to sell the HTiB and starting from scratch with a 2.0/2.1 system? Will I see a notable upgrade from my HTiB? And since I use this for TV/movies, would it be advisable to get something with multiple inputs (like one of the 5.1 receivers) rather than just one of the amps you have listed above?

Hey /u/ZeosPantera,

I first wanted to say you are the fucking man. This subreddit has been so incredibly helpful in figuring out my audio system. Additionally, I was wondering if you could provide your expertise for me.

My fraternity is currently getting our house back in a few weeks, and we have money to spend on home improvement (in this case, an audio system for the large common room). I'm looking for a system that can double as both a home theater sound system as well as speakers for a large, loud party. I assembled a list of components and was hoping you can recommend any changes. This is the list so far:

Receiver - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B7X2OV2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Center - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015A8Y3E/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Front speakers (tower) - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002ISZEV2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Rear speakers - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CRMKJTQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1WPEQCN6WJKZG

Subwoofer - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015A8Y5M/ref=ox_sc_act_title_8?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

These are the ones you listed as being loud enough to play music on as well. Will these products fit the bill for my needs (home theater, large frat party)? Also, these extras to set up the system:

Banana plugs - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0090CVJZ4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

RCA cable - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003FVX9FO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1DCPNQKKEISZB

Copper wire - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00APEG9MO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Is there anything I'm missing in order to set up the system? Thank you so much!!

I would love to!
 
For the amp I am using the SMSL Q5 Pro as linked by /u/Hercusleaze and I am very happy with it. I bought it especially for the optical input and remote control to use with my xbox alongside my PC. A very good feature is a dedicated sub out, really makes adding a sub simple.
 
If you dont need all the fancy DAC built in I would highly recommend the SMSL SA36A, SA50, or SA98 depending on the power you want (this depends on how loud you want to get and what your speakers need).
 
For speakers I am using a pair of Micca MB42X-C in 2.0, although I got them for half off. Most people recommend Micca MB42X, a very solid all rounder at a good entry price. I set my brother with the Fluance SX-6 speakers, and he is really happy with them although they are bass heavy.
 
These options are solid entry level gear, and for myself I havent needed/felt like upgrading further. If you are looking for something a bit higher end I would suggest checking out the /r/Zeos guide lists or make a dedicated thread!

I know over-budget suggestions aren't the most helpful, but the Klipsch r-15pm's look nice. I've never heard them though. And I don't know about auto-standby. Okay, so definitely not a helpful suggestion.

https://www.amazon.ca/Klipsch-R-15PM-Powered-Speakers-Bluetooth/dp/B01A7J534G

Klipsch R15PM

https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-15PM-Powered-Monitor-Black/dp/B01A7J534G

This and these would be a start to a great system, or you could do the same receiver + these fronts and this center and these surrounds. The second set is my setup, actually. That's napkin math to $1k, and it's freaking solid. slightly not as good as the UB5s, but for home theater usage, that's less of a deal. If you want top end music performance too, I'd vote get the UB5s. I'm extremely happy with my B6s/matching center / surrounds.

Assuming you just mean an overall budget of $800, here's a couple of options I'd suggest.

SPEAKERS

• SVS Prime Bookshelf - $500
  
• Elac UB5 - $500
  
• Emotiva Airmotiv 6S (Powered) - $700
  
• KEF Q300 - $400
  
• HTD Level 3 ~ $330
  
• Ascend CMT-340 - $500
  
  AMP
  
  
• Onkyo A9050 - $350
  
• Yamaha AS301 - $350
  
• Emotiva TA-100 - $400
  
  Amps can be found for cheaper at Accessories4Less if you're alright with refurb units.

These have been getting some good user reviews lately and a nice price too, and a pretty small cabinet for a 6.5 inch woofer, 79.99 / pair: 2 Pack 6.5" Bookshelf Home Theater Speakers 100W RMS TP160S-CH DCM by MTX Audio

As for amp's I have two of these (on two different computer systems), Dayton Audio APA 150. This is a serious Class A/B design topology, but no frills, just a well built, serious, "old school" heavy amp. No remote, no DAC, no Bluetooth, but WOW, a really nice, serious, amp! Lots of good user reviews and recommendations all over the net.

A often recommended smaller digital amp S.M.S.L AD18. This one DOES have it all, remote, DAC, bluetooth, relatively small, great reviews all over the net.

If you are really on a budget, try something similar to Lepai LP-2020TI Digital Hi-Fi Audio Mini Class D Stereo Amplifier. Do some searches for tweaking this amp, a very simple way to improve this amp, is to buy a more powerful power brick. There are many versions of this type of amp, amazon, ebay, parts-express, look around.

The other two, often recommended, "great value" speakers that work well with a computer (but you will need an amp), are the Sony SSCS5 3-Way 3-Driver Bookshelf Speaker System (Pair). I have seen these on sale for well under 100/pair, from memory, in the 60's and 70's.

Another great value is the Pioneer SP-BS22-LR Andrew Jones Designed Bookshelf Loudspeakers(7-1/8” x 12-9/16” x 8-7/16” & weighs 9 lbs 2 oz). Again, search around, these do go on sale for well under 100.00.

I have both the Pioneer and the Sony, and I currently am using the Sony SSCS5 with the Dayton Audio Amp. Was temped to buy the DCM, but I have to stop buying "great value" speakers. If I ever want to upgrade my computer speakers, I should save up and buy the Ascend Audio Luna Reference Ribbon Mini-Monitor.

Good luck, have fun, and Enjoy!

I doubt you'd find better for active speakers. You might consider the R1280DB, however (it's the same speaker plus bluetooth - maybe useful for you, maybe not).

Don't totally write off getting a setup with an amplifier. You can get tiny, cheap amplifiers (SMSL SA-36A is an example, or the Breeze Audio TPA3116 amp for something even cheaper) and pair it with a set of cheap bookshelf speakers. In my case, the amp is zip-tied to the underside of my desk so it's both completely invisible, and super-easy for me to reach the volume knob.

The advantage of this approach is more versitility in amp features and speaker selection, and the fact that speakers themselves will last decades if treated well. If a cable gets damaged, you can replace it. If the amp dies, you can replace it and keep the speakers. If you break the speakers somehow, you don't need to buy a new amp. If you want more input options (like bluetooth or optical or whatever), you can just upgrade the amp and keep the speakers. Want surround sound, or a sub? Just add it to your existing gear, without buying everything again.

In the long run, you'll save money because you won't throw the whole setup out when one component dies.

Polk Audio T15, $59 - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002RJLHB8

Sony SSCS5, $73 - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O8YLMVA/

Found this price drop recently! Normally they're somewhere between $120-150, but they've been dropped. I think Best Buy is having a sale? Also available on Amazon for a similar price. I have BS22 speakers and I'll be ordering from Amazon to try them out.



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The Sony's are on sale again for $73 a pair: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O8YLMVA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Is there room on the sides of the TV for speakers? Ideally they would be a couple feet to either side of the TV.

You probably just want to go with a 3.1 system, because the placement of the surrounds will be so wonky with a corner L-shaped couch and a corner TV that I don't think it would be worth it. You could do in-ceiling speakers, and do a 3.1.2 system though. https://www.dolby.com/us/en/guide/speaker-setup-guides/3.1.2-overhead-speakers-setup-guide.html

For $1,000 3.1.2 system I would get this:
Receiver - $300 (doesn't have eARC, but you probably don't need it)
Front L/R speakers - $200
Front center - $170
in-ceiling speakers - $80
Subwoofer - $250


If cutting holes into your ceiling to install speakers and run wiring is a daunting task, then just do a 3.1 system and you can spend more on the subwoofer. If you can push your budget this very high quality SVS PB-1000 subwoofer goes on sale on the outlet site for $400 several times a year, I imagine it will during labor day subwoofer option 2 - $400. It will be infinitely better than the $250 one linked above.

No worries, this just means a 2.1 or 3.1 is perfect for now, and then you can add on later.

Option 1:

2x RSL CG3 Bookshelf @ $135 = $270

1x RSL Speedwoofer 10s (sold out until Oct) @ $400

1x Denon AVR-X3500H 7.2-Ch x 105 Watts A/V Receiver from Accessories4Less @ $500

Total: $1170

Less of a budget stretcher, giving up a bit of performance. That receiver is realistically future proof (supports 7.2, 4k) and wouldn't need to upgrade for quite some time. More clear upgrade path however. In this scenario, when you want to upgrade, you get 3x RSL CG23s to be your new front speakers and move the CG3 you already own to the sides as your surrounds.

Option 2:

2x ELAC Debut 2.0 B6.2 Bookshelf Speakers @ $300 (comes in a pair)

1x Bic Acoustech PL-200 II Subwoofer @ $300

1x Denon AVR-X3500H 7.2-Ch x 105 Watts A/V Receiver from Accessories4Less @ $500

Total: $1100

About the same as option 1, and would come down to preference to RSL vs Elac (if you can demo Elac at a store, please do, RSL is internet direct only but does have in home trail). Similarly easy upgrade path, you'd just fill it out with the rest of the Elac Debut 2.0 B6.2 lineup (ie center, they even have some on walls for surrounds).

Option 3:

2x RSL CG23 @ $200 = $400

1x RSL Speedwoofer 10s (sold out until Oct) @ $400

1x Denon AVR-X3500H 7.2-Ch x 105 Watts A/V Receiver from Accessories4Less @ $500

Total: $1300

This requires a budget stretch, but gets you great stereo performance with a clear upgrade path. For speaker upgrade, you add the 3rd RSL CG23 for your center (these can be used horizontally or vertically FYI), and then whatever you want for surrounds (either the RSL CG3 or an on wall, ect)

Based on these numbers you can see you have about $300 for the speakers, so any speakers you can get for $150 each would work here. Other options are Fluance Signature Series HiFi ($200 for pair), Jamo S 803 ($160 for pair), or Q Acoustics 3020i Bookshelf ($300 for pair). I haven't heard any of these, but they get good reviews (particularly the Q Acoustics).

You could always go less on the receiver, but then you might have to buy a new one later. Would be nearly impossible to go lower on the subwoofer, the BIC and the RSL Speedwoofer are about as good as it gets for that price.

Finally, since you are primarily music focused, you could always axe the subwoofer altogether (add it later) and spend ~$600 on 2 kickass (maybe tower) speakers as music doesn't need as much super low bass as movies do. Let me know if you want to see what that looks like.

I'd second that except for;

The B652 AIR

https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-B652-AIR-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B00NOA58RS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1537592811&sr=8-1&keywords=dayton+b652-air

The Nobsound Mini Bluetooth for an amp. Possibly even smaller,built in DAC, BT, more watts, and all the cables outside of speaker wire are included. You can literally just run the micro USB to USB type A from the amp to your computers USB in. I've had 3 of the varying brandings of this amp and for around $30 it cannot be beat.

https://www.amazon.com/Nobsound-Bluetooth-Amplifier-Wireless-Receiver/dp/B06Y67PZB1/ref=pd_sim_23_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B06Y67PZB1&pd_rd_r=35f165e0-be25-11e8-9f86-cff56757bc74&pd_rd_w=qXYc3&pd_rd_wg=RFIpB&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=56838e6b-66d4-41e0-a762-743f1a1a628a&pf_rd_r=FXHFEFPCFCSF3YPC24DF&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=FXHFEFPCFCSF3YPC24DF

A little over budget, but those Logitech are shit. And, for under $100, you won't do any better.

Amp: https://www.amazon.com/Harman-Kardon-3490-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B00198F89A

Speakers: http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/hb-1.html

Sub: https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-12-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B000092TT0

Only problem is I have a feeling the room is too small for a sub haha

i got these

http://www.amazon.com/Fluance-AVBP2-Surround-Satellite-Speakers/dp/B00067OLOS/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1409784653&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=fluance+avb

look good, sound good. pretty happy with them.

IMO it's not important to "match" surround speakers to your front setup. The T15's should be fine or take a look at these other Polks that might have a better WAF if you plan to wall mount https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0018QNYVM/. I also like all of the Fluance bipolar surrounds and have used them in several systems in the past https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00067OLOS/ or https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01553D9CC/ or https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KAIHDRY/

Doesn't look like your room is well suited for surrounds. In a 5-channel surround setup, the "surround" speakers should be positioned to the left and right SIDES of the main listening position, about 90-100 degrees from center.

There might be an argument for a pair of bipolar speakers placed in a rear position on the back wall 2-3 feet above seated ear height. You'll have to get the positions right though because you'd be relying on reflected sound at that point.

If you're sticking with 5.1 and are limited in where you're placing your surrounds, I'd say go for bipoles. Or, at the very least, give them a try. I've had my eye on the Fluance SXBP2's, in the event I want to replace the older Mission 77DS's. I'm happy with the Missions at this time, so not in a huge hurry to upgrade :)

Just make sure if you're placing them on a shelf that they are pulled out to the edge of the shelf so you don't have any weird reflections there.

Fluance AVBP2 Home Theater Bipolar Surround Sound Satellite Speakers $99.96

I've been waiting like half a year for these to go on sale

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00067OLOS/

Fluance SX6 Speakers for $65 at amazon.ca: https://www.amazon.ca/Fluance-SX6-Definition-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B00067OS0A/ref=pd_cp_23_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=Z9NFF3C3PVKT3DHVSPJ1

Just connect it to a lepai amp and it'll work for PC. Really good deal and the third party seller seems okay. Note they are quite large though.

For Atmos: def go in-ceiling if you can, better than up-firing whenever possible, here's Amazon's top 100 (ignore the anomaly soundbars and bluetooth speaker junk), in general you will probably get what you pay for. You don't need to brand/voice match in-ceiling speakers to your other speakers, but feel free to do so. For example if you have Polk rears, you might want Polk in-ceiling also:

https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Electronics-Ceiling-Wall-Speakers/zgbs/electronics/12097474011

If not in-ceiling, then before you go up-firing, consider mounting two external speakers to ceiling above you as an alternate route. Polk OWM line is recommended for this as an example, due to great versatility in mounting options.

https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Wall-Speaker-Black/dp/B0018QNYVM

https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Multi-Purpose-Theater-Speaker/dp/B002778F88

https://goo.gl/images/FL5ggC

I think you can do better than the monoprice for a $1000 budget.

Front L/R ($220): http://www.htd.com/Products/level-two-speakers/Level-TWO-Bookshelf-Speakers

Center ($140): http://www.htd.com/Products/level-two-speakers/Level-TWO-Center-Channel-Speaker

Surrounds ($100): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0018QNYVM/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B0018QNYVM&linkCode=as2&tag=wwwpuresimula-20

Subwoofer ($185): http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1413988027&sr=1-1&keywords=bic+f12+subwoofer

Receiver ($135): http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavr1513/denon-avr-1513-5.1ch-home-theater-receiver-3d-ready/1.html

Grand total: $780. Just one possible build.

Also, if you want HTIB...this one is better than the monoprices: http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/focalsib51blk/focal-sib-cub3-home-theater-speaker-system-black/1.html

The biggest issue I have with both the Focals and the monoprices is the sub.

You don't gain that much from having those extra side speakers unless the room is extremely large and the speakers reasonably far away from your listening position, and the ceiling speakers more than make up for having the two extra side speakers. The reason 5.1.4 is the sweet spot is because receivers that do it are still reasonably affordable... if you wanted to do 7.1.4, the receivers to do this get more expensive... a good $1000 price jump, from spending $600-1000 for a receiver to spending $1750-2500.

The last number is the number of ceiling speakers you use. Some people have 5.1.2 systems, others have 7.1.2.. you'd be better off with 4 ceiling speakers in 5.1.4 configuration than a 7.1.2 configuration. The ceiling speakers don't have to be super expensive.. these are mine...

https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Wall-Speaker-Black/dp/B0018QNYVM/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1542558117&sr=8-7&keywords=polk+wall++speaker

you do want to (except for the subwoofer) try to have the same brand of speakers throughout the whole setup. I have a Polk CS2 center, Monitor 70 fronts, and Monitor 60 rears. (These used to go on sale at newegg from time to time.) These speakers have gotten some criticism by some people because of the tweeters, but they work fine as long as you get a receiver powerful enough to give them the juice they need... if you get an underpowered receiver that generates any clipping, it can blow the tweeters out.


Might as well throw in what receiver I got.. I didn't pay $900, I got it on sale for $700 I believe. And yes, it does pass through 4K HDR @ 60FPS.. that one star review is wrong.

https://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVRX4400H-Channel-Network-Receiver/dp/B072Z6VT1C/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1542558660&sr=8-2&keywords=x4300h

I'd call this a "bang for the buck" setup.. it's not audiophile quality (but sounds like it to my ears) but it doesn't cost $5,000-10,000 either... total cost is around $2000 (when everything's on sale)... most people here could assemble a 5.1.2 setup for around $1000 (when shit's on sale) they'd be perfectly happy with. The most expensive components are the receiver and subwoofer. The least expensive components.. ceiling speakers. As a MGTOW you don't have to spend extra that the audiophiles spend getting more powerful speakers to accommodate large numbers of people. If you just have 1-4 people in your setup, it will cost a lot less than if you make a setup designed for 5-10 or more people. As distance from the speakers increases, required power goes up.

At some point I might end up moving this whole system so it's flush with the back wall.. my initial goal was to avoid glare from these massive windows but I think I can mitigate that with light blocking curtains. This would allow me to expand the soundstage more and make room for guests.

For $1000 you could build a decent home theater system that destroys a soundbar setup Atmos or not. You'll definitely get the best Atmos experience with the speakers in or on the ceiling but that's not doable for a lot of people. Here's a list of equipment I put together in about 5 minutes. Keep in mind this setup would allow you to do two Atmos speakers. If you want to do 4 the cost of the receiver doubles.

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Reciever $250: https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrx1400h/denon-avr-x1400h-7.2-ch-x-80-watts-networking-a/v-receiver-w/heos/1.html

Fronts/rears/center $380: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B9TF1XS/ref=sspa_dk_detail_4?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B07B9TF1XS&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=21517efd-b385-405b-a405-9a37af61b5b4&pd_rd_wg=puxin&pf_rd_r=H5T2WA4F1VT30XSQ2ZEB&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&pd_rd_w=FAHO2&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pd_rd_r=9dc55bc6-e9cb-11e8-9729-43f65cfc73de

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If you wanted upfiring atmos speakers

Atmos Upfiring $99: https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-T22A-LR-Speaker-designed-Andrew/dp/B0148NPHO8

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If you want to mount directly to the ceiling or high up on a wall pointing down

Atmos on ceiling: $99 https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Wall-Speaker-Black/dp/B0018QNYVM

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Subwoofer $140: https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-sub-1200-12-120-watt-powered-subwoofer--300-629

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In this setup you'd plug all of your HDMI inputs into the receiver and then have the receiver output go to your TV. This is better than HDMI ARC because it allows you to use the lossless Dolby TrueHD Atmos tracks that blurays use. HDMI ARC doesn't support lossless audio and compresses everything to Dolby Digital+.

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Like others said I'd go with a sub. If you've got a tight budget look into the Dynamo 300.

I also have the Fluance SX6s paired with the Dynamo 300 and I've been really impressed. Although you'll want something bigger if it's a pretty big/open space you're working with, my setup is in my room (like 12x12ft).

Considering upgrading from 2.0 to 2.1 for a desktop setup, how do you do this with this? looks like the sub doesn't have Hi-level Out connectors? Would a receiver be required in this case?

If you are in the market for a projection setup for your home theater, you should not be skimping on audio as much as you are. Don't bother with either of those systems you linked. They are bottom of the barrel systems with no way to upgrade in the future.

Your budget should really be more than $200-$300 for audio when you are putting together a projection home theater (or any home theater for that matter). You may want a decent receiver for about $200. And some of the cheapest speakers we would recommend would run you about $80 a pair. Maybe these or these for speakers. Add the matching center channel for either and you would be set. I would factor in another $100-$200 for a subwoofer if you want something decent.

If you can't increase you budget enough for all of that, we normally suggest to start off with a 2.0 system (2 speakers and the receiver) then expand as you get more funds.

Your friend sounds like he is just describing surround sound, there is no such thing as "3D" sound, just video.

Hopefully this helps!

I would change the speakers to one of the pioneer/jones variations.
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS21-LR-80-Watts-2-Way-Speakers/dp/B004MEWZE4/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1382326142&sr=8-9&keywords=pioneer+speakers

These are down to $59 now. (pair) Go with two pair. Add matching center

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-C21-Watt-2-Way-Speaker/dp/B004MF4S0M/ref=pd_bxgy_e_text_y

That's a heck of a 5.0 package for about $200.

no need to match the brand of the sub to speakers. The key considerations here are...

1)The upper frequency range of the sub overlaps the deep frequency capabilities of the speakers to some degree.

2)The subwoofer is not grossly mismatched in terms of output capabilities. In other words, don't match a Triax subwoofer to tiny cube speakers..:)

Well, I'm really with Blizzrad - $75 isn't much a usable budget for anything (Neither is $150, really), but if you are dead set on making any change now, I'd ditch the speakers. Those Sanyo speakers are not going to be very good (that's a polite way of saying "garbage"). Alternatives in the rough price range is the Pioneer SP-BS21, $80.

Hey all,

Considering buying desktop speakers to replace my harmon kardon sound sticks for my PC.

So far i've narrowed it down to 2 sets. I already have a desktop amp and all so i'm good there...i hope...


My options are,

Pioneer SP-BS21-LR 80-Watts RMS 2-Way Speakers http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004MEWZE4/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=18V7A25BWVMGD5B34BG6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846

or...

Micca MB42 Bookshelf Speakers with 4-Inch Carbon Fiber Woofer and Silk Dome Tweeter
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009IUIV4A/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_d0_i6?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=18V7A25BWVMGD5B34BG6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846


I mostly listen to Electronic music with the occasional hip hop. I also play games quite a bit and watch movies. This set up would be for my computer in my bedroom.

Additional equipment i have currently is the Aune T1 with the Bravo V2...maybe V3...

Thanks in advance!

Any other suggestions welcome but i'm hoping to stay around $50 for the speakers.

At $700 for a budget, here is what I suggest you do...

1. Remove the built in phono preamp from the LP120
   
   
2. Go with one of these phono preamps:
   
   

• Parasound ZPhono
  
  
• Pro-Ject Phono Box S
  
  
• Schiit Mani
  
  

3. Pick up the Audioengine A5+ powered speakers.
   
   
4. Use whatever remaining budget you have to either buy some cheap speaker stands (it is not advisable to put them on the same surface as the TT unless you have some isolation pads), and potentially upgrade the cartridge on the LP120

I personally use the Sony MDR7506 as they're pretty much a standard for basic monitoring. Crisp, detailed high end, tight punchy base. Comfortable for hours on end and if you take decent care of them they should last years with the only wear and tear being the earcup material flaking off a bit. They're definitely made for desk-use as they have a very long coiled non-detachable cable.:

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR7506-Professional-Diaphragm-Headphone/dp/B000AJIF4E

There's also the Sony MDRV6, which are very similar, but apparently have a little more low-end.

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDRV6-Studio-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B00001WRSJ
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As far as speakers go, I've been using the Audioengine A5+ for a few years now and have been very satisfied. Great sound and more power than I'll ever be able to use in my small apartment. They look nice too (I got a good deal on the white ones). They are powered speakers (opposed to the A5) and thus don't require a separate amp. They also come with a small remote for volume/mute:

http://www.amazon.com/Audioengine-Active-2-Way-Speakers-Black/dp/B005OA3BSY

For a DAC I use the Audioengine D1 plugged in through USB, which gives me higher quality audio and a convenient headphone out and volume knob:

http://www.amazon.com/Audioengine-D1-24-bit-Digital-to-Analog-Converter/dp/B006IPH5H2/

So since I did a lot of searching prior to purchase but couldn't find anything - to anyone else considering using the Ikea Fredde desk and the X34 together, the the monitor stand just barely doesn't fit on the raised shelf and so I had to screw a small metal plate to the back to accommodate the rear foot of the stand. It's a fine solution and I can't see the plate during regular use so it's seamless.

I'm super happy with the monitor besides some minor bleed in the corners but UNF I just can't get over that colour accuracy and encompassing view! With this addition to my setup I feel like I'm at max level, i.e. can't "level up" (at least not very far), with regards to my audio/video setup.

Anyone with a nice ultrawide monitor shouldn't skimp out on audio too! I see a lot of ascension posts featuring $100 Logitech speakers, which are fine but you can improve on audio as much as video! To anyone looking for an excellent performance to value ratio mid-fi 2.1 audio solution to complement their ultrawide I can't recommend this combo highly enough: Audioengine A5+ bookshelf speakers + S8 subwoofer.

EDIT: Forgot about headphones! My point still stands, don't be afraid to spend more for a better experience! I love my Philips Fidelio X2 for both gaming and movies. If you're in the market for some cans head on over to /r/headphones and ask for purchasing advice in the sticky.

Im not ditching my speakers any time soon. ;-)

Audioengine A5+ Active 2-Way Speakers (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005OA3BSY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_WhIzCb21Y1MC5

If your budget is really $1500 then by the time you buy the TV, furniture, cables, etc. you'll only have around $500 left for audio. At that price range a proper 5.1 setup is definitely out. Here is what I would consider:

• Entry-level refurbished Denon receiver for $180 and some decent bookshelf speakers like the $300 KEF Q100 for a decent 2.0 setup. You could add a subwoofer later for more bass and/or buy a center & surrounds to get 5.1.
  
• Forget the receiver entirely and get a pair of good powered speakers like the $400 Audioengine A5+. These speakers have their own built-in amplifier so you don't need any more equipment (can just plug them into the TV) but the downside is there isn't really any way to expand the setup if you decide you want something better in a year or two, you have to start over.
  
• You could also look into a sound bar, they are not at all liked on this sub but they honestly are not that bad. The advantage of a soundbar is you get a proper center channel so for TV and movies the dialog might be a little better, and some of them have decent "virtual" surround sound. E.g. something like this $420 Vizio which actually includes wireless rear speakers. Soundbars have the same problem as a powered 2.0 setup in that they are not expandable.

Whats your budget and what do you want out of them.

A few months ago my budget was $100-$250 for desktop speakers...and after researching more and more I bought $400 speakers.

(Un)fortunately there are actual scientific measures for speakers and there is a significantly large jump from $200 to $400 generally

I bought Audioengine A5+ after deciding it wasn't worth it to pay $250 on speakers and know that for $400 I could hit that next plateau. Size is also a huge factor, it turns out it's pretty much impossible to get very high quality sound reproduction on smaller speakers. They can take the same speakers and shrink them perfectly and it will have a measurably lower sound reproduction quality.

First of all, before I give suggestions, let me just say it's definitely possible to find something better than what I'm recommending for less money if you go vintage or scour craigslist. However I don't have the knowledge to really help you with vintage gear. I know it takes time, patience, possibly repairs & finding parts, etc. Plus you need to know what you're looking for. And if you don't live in a huge city with tons of quality vintage hi-fi stuff on craigslist or floating around in goodwill stores, it could be a while. So if you want to go that route, maybe somebody around here could take a look at your local craiglist or something and help you out.

So with that being said, if you want to go new/newish, this is the exact lineup I bought for my first setup recently. It's all going to fall into the category of entry level/minimum for "audiophile" so it won't absolutely blow your mind, then again looking at your current situation maybe it will lol:


Project Debut Carbon DC (usually a $400 table, available for $300) here

You will see a lot of people recommend Project, Rega and U-Turn as the best entry level "audiophile" style tables. I am not a man of means so it worked for me. The DC is the upgraded version of the Debut Carbon with a better, quieter power source. Comes with an adjustable counterweight and anti-skate, which your LP60 does not have and the absence of which can cause damage to your records. Furthermore you can upgrade the stylus, the platter, I think the tonearm (?) down the road if you wish, when more money becomes available. It comes with an Ortofon 2M Red which is a solid budget cartridge.

Audioengine A5+ - lightly used $319

Very good powered speakers for the money, so you wouldn't have to spend money on a receiver/amp at this time. I've been thoroughly impressed with them.

Project Phono Box S lightly used - $161.50

Phono stage. Could maybe find one for cheaper that would be just as good, I don't know a ton about phono stages. Remember to set the gain to match your TT when you get it.


Total: $780

I know you said your budget maxed at $600, maybe wait another paycheck or 2 or find a different cheaper phono stage and/or downgrade the A5+ speakers to A2's which are bookshelf speakers if you're ok with that.

There are a lot of options out there, this is just what I ended up going with recently and I'm very satisfied. I've already upgraded the platter on the TT to an acrylic one, and will prob upgrade the cartridge next christmas as a gift to myself, thinking maybe the 2M Bronze. But this will absolutely serve and give you a huge increase in performance from day 1.

I'm not sure about best buy maybe check out their subs, you could crosscheck prices on subs/amps on amazon to best buy's prices. I'm about to drop a couple hundred on a 2.0 setup and buying a sub later on. These are the speakers I'm getting (and were recommended to me on this subreddit) Fluance SX6 with this Amp

What the u/astrnght_mike_dexter said is correct.


The recever is decent, good enough for this price range.
A good stereo system will always sound better than a mediocre surround system.


$500 will get you some really nice bookshelf speakers.


https://www.amazon.com/Wharfedale-Denton-80th-Red-Mahogany/dp/B00RDMZJ9U
https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Uni-fi-Bookshelf-Speaker-Black/dp/B01CRYWVG2
https://www.amazon.com/Acoustics-Concept-Bookshelf-Speakers-Gloss/dp/B00D8XYH32/

https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-Reference-Premiere-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B07G3D2C8S/

https://www.amazon.com/SVS-Prime-Bookshelf-Speaker-Pair/dp/B00PASUMV4/

https://www.amazon.com/Dali-Oberon-Bookshelf-Speakers-Walnut/dp/B07H2N5CNT/

https://www.amazon.com/Monitor-Audio-Bronze-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B002LPTH92/

https://www.amazon.com/KEF-Q150-Bookshelf-Speakers-Black/dp/B071P6KQZX/

These are what I would look at instead:

https://www.amazon.com/Audioengine-A2-Powered-Speaker-System/dp/B00DQMJE7E/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1549211989&sr=8-3&keywords=audioengine+a2%2B

https://www.amazon.com/Mackie-Studio-Monitor-5-inch-2046563-00/dp/B015U623MQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1549212177&sr=8-3&keywords=mackie+cr5

https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1850DB-Bookshelf-Speakers-Bluetooth/dp/B073W1R4XQ/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1549212416&sr=1-4&keywords=edifier

Given OP's limited amount of desk space, I would personally go with the A2+, they sound pretty damn good for a 2" speaker.

The [R1700BT] (https://www.amazon.ca/Edifier-R1700BT-Bluetooth-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B016PATXSI/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3E1RWE3CW4J5X&keywords=edifier&qid=1567351226&s=gateway&smid=A23AS8PFN4IRUQ&sprefix=edifier%2Caps%2C151&sr=8-4) and R1850DB are also on sale for $153 and $167 respectively.

Not quite as good as the Prime day sale, but still seems like a decent price.

I have a similar model (R1280T) hooked up to my Samsung TV. I'd give the speakers 4-stars out of five.

Pros:

The speakers produce excellent, clear, clean sound, they look great, and they're just the right size to fit into their home on my TV console. The optical out was exactly what I needed, you can hook up a subwoofer to the bookshelf speakers (I haven't done this), and the Bluetooth works flawlessly.

Cons:

1. When I set them up I could not, for the life of me, get them to work. I scoured the manual and found, in a side note in a tiny font, that you need to change an advanced sound setting on the TV in order to output to the speakers. Apparently not all TVs have this option, but mine did. (I'm afraid I don't remember the exact issue, but I'd wager that you can google it.)
   
2. The remote is cheapo and, while it does its job, it still kinda sucks. You cannot just hold down volume up or volume down buttons on the remote. Instead, you need to hit the button repeatedly, which is mildly annoying. (Also, my remote has two volume up and two volume down buttons, but the duplicates do the same thing. Probably an artifact from using the same general remote for different products, but it feels like lazy design and looks weird.)
   
3. In terms of indicators, there is only a single LED on the front of one speaker. It changes color based on the input, and it blinks once whenever you adjust the volume to show it received the command. What it does not have is a volume indicator, so I have no idea what the level will be when I turn on the TV, and I don't have a feel for a default volume setting. Especially fun with little kids who like to use the remote to blast bad guys.
   
4. You control the TV volume output via the speaker remote instead of the TV remote, which means I'm using two remotes now. Like some sort of Neanderthal. An Amazon reviewer said they successfully programmed a Logitech universal remote to control the speakers, but another said that their universal remote wouldn't recognize the speakers. I haven't done any research to figure out if it's possible to train/sync/whatever my TV's remote to control the speaker volume, but I'm not getting my hopes up. If anyone has a solution, I'm all ears...

are you thinking to expand to a 5.1 system in the future?

this would be my pick for a set of bookshelves around $400:

https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Uni-fi-Bookshelf-Speaker-Black/dp/B01CRYWVG2/ref=sr_1_7?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1505270293&sr=1-7&keywords=elac

these are another good option:

https://www.amazon.com/KEF-Q300B-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers-Black/dp/B00CE3LG9U/ref=sr_1_3?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1505270413&sr=1-3&refinements=p_36%3A30000-40100%2Cp_72%3A1248879011

ELAC Uni-fi UB5 Bookshelf Speaker (Black, Pair) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CRYWVG2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_4sXnybEZKNY5J

$399.99 ($100 off)

Just grab these

Check this out at Amazon.com - ELAC Uni-fi UB5 Bookshelf Speaker (Black, Pair) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CRYWVG2/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_psDRCbVYGQVFW

They go low enough a sub is optional but as usual is always recommended with anything.

I have these speakers hooked up to my 55" 4k TV. They're very good for the price. Very clear mids and highs, bluetooth connectivity so you can swap to bluetooth mode and play songs from your phone or Google Home when you want, and a subwoofer out so you can upgrade the system with a sub when you find a good deal on a good one. I bought a $250 12" sub to go with the system a few months after getting it and the combo of a good sub with a good sound system, as my father described it, "sounds like a theatre".

They're normally $250, I bought a set for $130 used on Kijiji, so $175 new is a rather good deal.

The Bluetooth $113 ones OP posted, or these? Is there a significant difference?


Edifier R1850DB Active Bookshelf Speakers with Bluetooth and Optical Input - 2.0 Studio Monitor Speaker - Built-in Amplifier with Subwoofer Line Out https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B073W1R4XQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_gDClDb7WMTGEW

You want something with an optical input so that you can send a digital signal from the optical output on your tv to the receiver or powered speakers.

Edifier has some pretty nice powered speakers:

https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1850DB-Bookshelf-Speakers-Bluetooth/dp/B073W1R4XQ/

Those have optical and coax inputs plus a subwoofer output if you wanted to add a subwoofer later. Plus it also has a remote.

You could also do separates like a SMSL AD18 and Micca MB42x speakers and then add a subwoofer later.

i would look into some powered monitors by Edifier. i have the cheapo r1280t and they impress the heck out of me. i listen to mostly 90's hip hop and a lot of other stuff and they sound great in a small/medium room. no subwoofer needed IMO. i imagine the R1800DB or R2000DB are even more impressive.

Here's a great set of speakers on sale today. Then if you need a sub, you can a dayton sub800 for another $100. That's a great setup for $260.

Trying to squeeze a sub and powered speakers in a $200 budget may be difficult.

You may like them. They're not bad!

Having something at arms reach would be preferable to trying to use them as a wider speaker setup in a room, because of each monitor has individual power and gain controls.

Will it sound good for you, sure. Will it thump? No, not really. Is there an easy way to add a sub, sure, throwing money at it with a pro sub that has an active crossover inside it.

Best thing to do is audition them. Monitors won't sound 'bad' at all, but it just may not be what you'd expect.

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I'd look into Edifiers (or Swan), for more ease of use and connectivity

• https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-S2000pro-Bluetooth-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B0725GZQFZ
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-S1000DB-Audiophile-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B01CDIS6M0
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1850DB-Bookshelf-Speakers-Bluetooth/dp/B073W1R4XQ
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1700BT-Bluetooth-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B016PATXSI/
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1280DB-Bluetooth-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B0719C132V
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1280T-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B016P9HJIA
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-S880DB-Bluetooth-Bookshelf-Near-Field/dp/B07D41XN1F/

Edifier makes some good powered speakers. You would probably be just fine with a 2.0 setup, but if you think you might want to add a sub later you could look for something with a line out/sub out, something like the Edifier R1850DB. Those also have an optical input which you could use with the Chromecast Audio to bypass the DAC in the Chromecast for the one in the speakers instead, which is probably better (although you probably won't notice the difference). You could also skip the Chromecast Audio and connect the Home directly to the speaker via bluetooth.

$200 is super low... but something like this...

https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-2017-R-14PM-Powered-Monitor/dp/B075JRF295

or

https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1850DB-Bookshelf-Speakers-Bluetooth/dp/B073W1R4XQ

would be a big improvement over your soundbar.

I don't see a sub/RCA output on those speakers, so you'd need an RCA splitter. you could also get the Edifier R1850DB instead, which does have a sub output, but it costs an extra $70, and I don't think that sub output has a crossover, so it won't have any advantage over a $2 RCA splitter

Edifier R1850DB Active Bookshelf Speakers with Bluetooth and Optical Input - 2.0 Studio Monitor Speaker - Built-in Amplifier with Subwoofer Line Out https://www.amazon.in/dp/B073W1R4XQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_ND1UCbJMESECB


Is this a good deal?

Exactly. A proper stereo is the solution here. Use a decent amp and speakers for the audio and pair it with an Echo Dot to control it, using the line out jack on the Dot to connect it to the amp.

If /u/Treas0n is looking for a good budget option, I'd highly recommend the Lepai amp + Dayton speaker setup. This setup is the go-to budget kit on /r/audiophile and would be plenty loud with really good sound quality. It's about $90 for the whole kit (+$30-$50 for an Echo Dot):

Lepai LP-2020TI Texas Instruments TPA3118 Hi-Fi Stereo Audio Mini Amplifier with Power Supply https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071FJF4FF/ (don't go for this one anymore, grab a tripath version)

Kinter K2020A+ Limited Edition ORIGINAL Tripath TA2020-020 Class-T Hi-Fi Audio Mini Amplifier with 12V 5A Power Supply Black https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077Z7DBRT

Dayton Audio B652-AIR 6-1/2" 2-Way Bookshelf Speaker with AMT Tweeter Pair https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NOA58RS/

AmazonBasics 16-Gauge Speaker Wire - 50 Feet https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006LW0WDQ/

Monoprice 105597 3-Feet Premium Stereo Male to 2RCA Male 22AWG Cable - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0094A1F3S/

If the OP wants even bigger sound then add a powered sub for $100 more (you may want to double up on your 16ga speaker wire for connecting the subwoofer between the stereo speakers and the amp)

Polk Audio PSW10 10-Inch Powered Subwoofer (Single, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_IEFWBbD0GFQVW

This: http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-B652-AIR-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B00NOA58RS

Plus this: http://www.amazon.com/Digphone-LP-2020A-Stereo-Amplifier-Supply/dp/B0187BWMGS/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1458851208&sr=1-1&keywords=lp-2020

You'll go a bit over when you include speaker wire and a line in cable. Totally worth it in the long run though.

It's absurd, all the good suggestions and buying guides are apparently for the US market. At the moment I have only found Dayton speakers

Depending on what kind of quality you're looking for you could go with a Lepai amp and some smaller bookshelf speakers like the Dayton B652 Airs. It's not the best sound in the world but for the price and size it would be hard to beat. I'm running my Audio Technica turntable off of this system and I plan to buy a small bluetooth receiver to hook up to the amp's aux input so I can play stuff from my computer or phone over the stereo from wherever I am. You can get an idea of the size of the amp and speakers here.

This may be the easiest way for you to get to where you want to go for under $500. Don't forget that you'll need the right piece of furniture (craigslist) and/or speaker stands plus speaker wire. I don't know anything about remotes.

Refurbished AV receiver with 5.1, HDMI, 4K.

Dayton Audio speakers:

Subwoofer.

Mains.

Rear.

Center.

Most AV receivers have a calibration mode and come with an external mic.

Something as simple as this will get you started just fine - for about half that budget:

• https://www.amazon.com/Sony-STRDH190-Stereo-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B078WFDR8D
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-B652-AIR-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B00NOA58RS/
  
  or if you want to spend a little more on your speakers -
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Bookshelf-Speakers-Black/dp/B000V2UBSI/
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-TSi200-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B0018QROCC/
  
  Don't forget speaker wire (14 gauge)

Alright, for your $300 I have:
Mount - $45

Receiver - Denon 530T from Accessories4Less - $130

Speakers - Pair of Daytons from the buying guide - $55

Stands - Set that has decent reviews and should be sturdy enough - $40

That leaves you a $30 buffer for sales tax and to buy speaker wire. Continue to save up until you can buy a subwoofer.

Smoke and tronics has the dayton b652 air at 114.64 (95.99+18.65sh)

http://www.amazon.ca/gp/offer-listing/B00NOA58RS/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

Fluance is also a Canadian company and many of their prices are different on their website (which frustratingly hasn't loaded for me for two days). I'm not sure what their shipping is but I am definitely eyeing the SX6's as he mentioned.

I definitely feel your pain though, prices in Canada are insane! I was lucky to nab a setup on black friday at ~50% off, and it was still more expensive than the pieces would have been full price in the states. Its crazy!

$170+ refurbished receivers with Chromecast built in + either MB42X ($80) and MB42X-C ($70) or Sony SSCS5 ($150) or Micca RB42 ($130) or Elac Debut 2.0 B6.2 or Polk S20 or Q Acoustic 3020 or more but those are just a few stand outs at their price point. Then you'll need speaker cable and assuming your not adventurous enough to strip wire and put banana plugs on yourself you can buy them pre made for pretty reasonable price. And yes this doesn't have Android TV but do you really want to replace your whole sound bar when Google kills Android TV for Google TV in a few years? (Because Google loves killing products people love)

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-SSCS5-3-Driver-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B00O8YLMVA/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=sony+cs5&qid=1563810428&s=gateway&sr=8-3

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https://www.amazon.com/Lepai-LP-2020TI-Instruments-TPA3118-Amplifier/dp/B071FJF4FF/ref=sr_1_3?crid=M2WIJL2PC1PM&keywords=lepai+amplifier&qid=1563810359&s=gateway&sprefix=lepai+amp%2Caps%2C207&sr=8-3#customerReviews

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The Sony's are an amazing price right now. These two would only cost you $100 and will blow you away. I used to use this combination until I upgraded to a Yamaha AV receiver to replace the Lepai amp and added a center channel as well. It sounded amazing. There might be a better option for a $75 receiver to meet your $150 budget that might provide bluetooth but I'm not as familiar with anything else

If you're ready for a receiver upgrade, there's nothing better at $150 than an avr-x1400h. If you're not ready he can pick up a Denon s540bt for $150 or a Denon s730h for $220. I'd pick the 540 for an under $1,000 setup.

Bic America F12 Subwoofer (if wife allows)

Now you have quite a few choices for LCR. I'd start with Elac Debut 2 B6.2 and Matching Center. For ~$570.

Leave the rest for cables and upgrading surrounds for later. I'm currently pretty happy with my Polk owm3 for $100 but I have rear space restrictions.

You can also go the Fluance Route Fluance L& R, Matching center, and Bipole Surrounds for ~$500

I recommend passive speakers over active simply because of the flexibility it offers you when you want to upgrade.
Since you mentioned Canada, I would recommend the Fluance signature series https://www.amazon.com/Fluance-Signature-Bookshelf-Surround-HFS/dp/B01A5UB4JU


And instead of buying a cheap mini amp for new , look for a used Yamaha/NAD/Onkyo on Craigslist

Receiver

Denon S540BT - $150

Sub

Dayton 1200 Sub - $150

You have more options for bookshelf speakers, but most will be $200-$300.

Elac Debut 2.0 B6.2 - $240

Fluance Signature Series - $200

Wavecrest HVL-1 - $160

If you want speakers I would like to recommend the klispch r 15pm. They sound great and you can even add a sub to the kit if you choose to. No need for an amp and they also support Bluetooth if you want to play music from your phone while your pc is powered off or not using the speakers.

https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-15PM-Powered-Monitor-Black/dp/B01A7J534G

• Slickdeals.net deal alert to try for a deal
  
• Amazon link for AT-LP120 bundle - currently $499 [Photo]
  
• Amazon link for Pro-Ject Primary bundle - currently $420 [Photo]
  
• Klipsch R-15PM's on Amazon: $397 for [Black], $299 for [Cherry]

Been looking into a comparison between the Klipsch R-15PM and the Edifier R1700BT.

Would be using them to listen to music with bluetooth and also would connect them to a TV. Wondering if listening via bluetooth negates any better sound quality from the more expensive set. Also, just generally if the Klipsch speakers are worth the extra $200. I listen to a lot of taper recordings from live concerts, so music is definitely the priority.

(x-posting from r/budgetaudiophile)

Hey-o,

I've got a setup question:
Will a pro-ject debut Carbon connect to Klipsch R-15PM speakers a Klipsch Reference subwoofer with the pro-ject phono preamp

Any advice is appreciated for speakers to go with this turntable! Thanks!

Klipsch R-15pm originally $500 now $300
Powered, optical, phono preamp, Bluetooth

Klipsch R-15PM Powered Monitor - Black (Pair) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A7J534G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_3628Bb3T2B5B2

For $329 the Klipsch R-15PM is a good option. Has a built in phono stage for your turntable, as well as bluetooth connectivity for your phone. It also has a dedicated sub-woofer output and digital inputs.

More on speakers, these are really good but won't touch headphones in the same price range. So only go for it if you're mainly use speakers.

These are if you can't afford R-15PM.

But like I said, don't expect anything crazy from speakers unless you're willing to shell out a grand or more.

Yes you could do that. The yamaha has the digital inputs you'd need and the phono.

The other receiver many people look at for this kind of thing is the Pioneer Elite A20 It's $100 cheaper but doesn't have digital ins.

Yamaha also makes that same receiver in higher power versions like the 501 if you so desire.

It's a shame about the phono input because the Denon Heos Amps are discontinued and going for $350 on Amazon and would replace your need for Chromecast or your Xbox because it allows bluetooth, USB, or wifi streaming including direct access to Tidal and Spotify.

Not to further add to the pool, but Klipsch makes a set of self amplified speakers for turntable lovers with a built in phono and digital inputs, and the speakers have the amp built into them. r15pm

Shows

Inquisition/Volahn/Uada

Marduk/Incantation

Other

Klipsch R-15PM Powered Monitor - Black (Pair)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A7J534G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_oyXMzb4ET68FT

Bought it used and it didn't come with the speaker wire. Amazon gave me a $75 partial refund which is great bc I'm sure I can easily find cheap wire. The right speaker sounds great at least

I recommend these:

https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-15PM-Powered-Monitor-Black/dp/B01A7J534G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479322474&sr=8-1&keywords=r15+pm+klipsch

https://www.amazon.com/U-Turn-Audio-Orbit-Turntable-Black/dp/B00YQ6B396/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479322533&sr=8-1&keywords=u+turn+orbit

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/google-chromecast-audio-black/4532100.p?skuId=4532100&ref=212&loc=1&ksid=b9026f1f-e325-4276-8133-249263fd9844&ksprof_id=16&ksaffcode=pg72903&ksdevice=c&lsft=ref:212,loc:2

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MCS2ZLO/ref=sxr_pa_click_within_right_1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=2329824862&pf_rd_r=H70DTYPT16GTYCXQ2CFC&pd_rd_wg=hShMQ&pf_rd_s=desktop-rhs-carousels&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_w=eQHOV&pf_rd_i=speaker+stands+30&pd_rd_r=GNYQHZ851XV5J0WVQ3D0&psc=1

The Klipsch are a speaker system with a receiver built in.
This is a complete home music system and you wont need to buy anything else.

Or if you want to have separate components I recommend this:

https://www.amazon.com/Fluance-Elliptical-Counterweight-Anti-Skating-RT81/dp/B01F2EXIFM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479323335&sr=8-1&keywords=fluance+rt81

https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-R-S202BL-Stereo-Receiver/dp/B01EMQI2CU/ref=sr_1_3?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1479323363&sr=8-3&keywords=yamaha+stereo+system

https://www.amazon.com/KEF-Q300B-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers-Black/dp/B00CE3LG9U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479323386&sr=8-1&keywords=kef+q300

and speaker stands.

These are budget recommendations that will get you good sound and good quality. If you want to go crazy on high end stuff you will want to do more research on the audiophile sub.

Here's the set

https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Uni-fi-Bookshelf-Speaker-Black/dp/B01CRYWVG2

Uturn orbit with phono preamp - 249 (https://uturnaudio.com/products/orbit-basic-turntable). Be sure to press the built in button for the preamp

SMSL AD18 - 145 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073F8Z565

Micca MB42x - 90 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E7H8GG2

Total 485

Is a baseline respectable system. There may be black Friday specials to bring the cost down a bit. The speakers are the weakest link here (though not bad), if you can pony up an extra ~200 you can get a much better pair (Emotiva B5, Kef Q100/150, Elac B5/B6, Chane A1.4, Klipsch RP-150m, etc.) EDIT: I also just noticed the Elac UB5 for $350 on amazon https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CRYWVG2, they are definitely worth the extra cash if you can scrounge it. Also from a post below: https://www.turntablelab.com/products/denon-dp-300f-turntable-ortofon-2m-red-upgrade is a fantastic deal and a better deck.

No need to power the sub as long as you get one with a built in amplifier (most have this).

The wattage rating for amps usually means per channel. So for a stereo amp with 50 watts, you're looking at 50 watts per speaker.

The monoprice stuff is not bad overall. Take a look at Dayton's sub in that price range also, and then for speakers you might look at Pioneer's bookshelf speakers too.

Look into a DAC/AMP

I spent a little money, nothing bank breaking, to get good audio from my PC

I use the Topping VX1

It attaches to your PC by USB and/or line out (the green jack)

I use the line out from my PC to the AUX input on the back of the DAC

I run from the Topping VX1 to a 8" sub from Dayton-Audio and from the sub I go to 2 Dayton Audio B652 speakers.

The sound is really good. Much better than from crappy PC speakers. Also the Topping has a switching headphone jack so you can leave your headphones in at all times.

I am using the audio technica m50x headphones which are decent.

For some reason he has a good sound card but crappy speakers. That makes me think he likes music/sound? If so, maybe consider new speakers. I would recommend the Micca PB42x speakers with an aux cable, then either buy or make some stands. If he would like a subwoofer too the Dayton Sub-800 with an aux to rca cable can pack some good punch without pissing off the neighbors too much. This setup would be more than enough for the average gamer/music enthusiast. It will be worlds above what he has now. However, if he does any music recording/mixing, maybe head to /r/audiophile or /r/budgetaudiophile for more specific recommendations.

Quick note: surround sound usually doesn't make sense at a desk, but you can certainly add more speakers to what I have listed here if you'd like.

Edit: oh yeah, you'll also want a speaker cable or some speaker wire (if he has wire strippers) to connect the two speakers to eachother.

Just a tip, even if you want to go with a proper setup, but as cheap as possible, here you go.

Receiver: $145

https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrs530bt/denon-avr-s530bt-5.2-ch-x-70-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html

Fronts and surrounds: $180

https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2 x 2

Center: $70

https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-C-Channel-Speaker-Tweeter/dp/B00HHFBEK6?th=1&psc=1

Sub: $90

https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SUB-800-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0063NU30K

Total: $485

Don’t feel like you have to do it all at once either, if even sub-$500 sounds like a lot. I built my own setup over the course of roughly a year.

Start with a receiver and 2.0. Then add a sub, then a center, then surrounds (or vice-versa).

They are the speakers labeled SR and SL in this photo. I dont know who gave you those, but call them stupid for it! Since you cant use them on their own without an amplifier, and even worse since they only gave you surround channel speakers (which dont really function on their own)!!! (ok dont actually call them stupid. after all its a gift)

If you want to use them, I would suggest getting two fluance fronts. If you want fulfill the 5.1 surround channel, you could also pick up matching fluance center and a cheap sub like this.

Oh and you'll need speaker wire. And a receiver like this. Overall, if you expect to use these speakers in their intended position, expect to spend minimum of $250 (New). If you wanna save some bucks, go on craiglist or ebay and look for some used receivers. they are dime a dozen and a great bang for the buck.

100W peak / 50W rms is the rating of the sub's internal amplifier.

That's a compatible subwoofer, although the Dayton 8" is probably a better choice.

https://smile.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SUB-800-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0063NU30K/

See https://www.reddit.com/r/AverageJoeAudiophile/comments/3w9tdw/i_have_xxxxx_to_spend_what_should_i_buy_subwoofers/ or https://www.reddit.com/r/Zeos/comments/5b1u99/guide_subwoofers/ for more recommendations.

Not sure why you would want the l/r and the center, other than it's a good deal. Are you hoping to fill it out to 5.1 eventually?

I've never heard Fluance, but the go-to recommendations around here are one of these two Pioneer speakers, or the Miccas. Search this sub to look for reviews (and double check the model numbers if you're interested. I'm doing this from memory). If you get the Pioneers you should be able to afford the subwoofer that goes with it. Also, you can usually find a Polk sub like this one on sale.

There are better options, I'm sure, but these get a lot of recommendations for budget systems. I have a brother in law with the Pioneers and no sub and he's pretty happy.

As for hooking it up, you just need a 3.5mm to RCA jack cable like this one. Also, if your receiver has an s/pdif input you could go from the sound card to the receiver that way. If you use the first cable, the sound card will be decoding the digital into analog. If you use the s/pdif cable, your receiver will do the decoding. Depending on the DACs in the card and receiver, one might be better than the other.

Used market is probably the best way to approach this at this price point.

Buy a SMSL amplifier, and a pair of used bookshelf speakers (spend as much here as you can afford, a little bit of research into the brand and model will give you a decent idea of what they sound like). You'll most likely need a 3.5mm to RCA adapter to make this work, if you're planning on using the headphone jack as the primary output. If you have a motherboard with a digital output, you'll need a DAC (Digital to Analog Converter) as well (FiiO D3 works great for the price).

When you want to add a sub later on, there are plenty of powered subwoofers that have a speaker terminal input. They usually have a low pass filter as well.

Your audio chain would then look like this:

Analog: PC Analog 3.5mm output -> SMSL Amplifier -> Powered Subwoofer -> Speakers

Digital: PC Digital -> FiiO D3 DAC -> SMSL Amplifier -> Powered Subwoofer -> Speakers

Link below to a Pioneer powered subwoofer with high level input speaker terminals (as an example. This sub is not great, but does the trick at the price point)

https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SW-8MK2-Designed-100-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B008NCD2PC

If you must have new or plug and play: I also see the Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 being touted as a good all-in-one system for the money (can be had for under $200 new). But I imagine that for similar cash in the used market, you could blow the Klipsch system out of the water. However, I have never heard the Klipsch system, so I cannot say for certain. But instinct tells me it would be fairly easy to beat with decent used equipment.

Hope that helps, good luck with the new setup!

Most subwoofers take a single RCA from subwoofer out on the playback device to the L input on the sub. The R is not necessary.

My sub is the same way.

Pioneer SW-8MK2 Andrew Jones Designed 100-Watt Powered Subwoofer https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008NCD2PC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_8YylzbD7A0ANV

Heads up: all the Andrew Jones speakers are on sale for the next 8 hours or so for Amazon's deal of the day.

I own the older model of the bookshelf speakers and they're fantastic for the price. I'll probably fill out my home theater with these.

Floor standing loud speaker SP-FS52 - $89.99 each

Center Speaker SP-C22 - $69.99

SW-8MK2 Subwoofer - $99

For budget subs (< $500) you have a quite a few popular choices:

• $348 Klipsch
  
• $199 Polk
  
• $157 Pioneer
  
  I'd highly recommend upgrading a better sub in the $500 .. $800 range:
  
  
• EMP Tek
  
• HSU
  
• Rythmik Audio
  
• SVS (Box)
  
• SVS (Cylinder) -- if space or WAF (Wife Approval Factor) is important
  
  Edit: Added SVS Cylinder sub link

I've googled all over and can't find an answer to this!

I have the following equipment:

• Sonos AMP
  
• Pioneer SP-BS22-LR Andrew Jones Designed Bookshelf Loudspeakers
  
• Pioneer SW-8MK2 Andrew Jones Designed 100-Watt Powered Subwoofer
  
  I have the Bookshelf speakers wired directly to the Sonos AMP as well as the Subwoofer wired directly to the Sonos AMP (connect to left input on back of sub).
  
  There are also speaker connections on the back of the sub and I see people often recommend wiring the speakers to those rather than the amp. Is this better or different at all from my current setup?
  
  Or in other words:
  
  Amp --> Sub , Amp --> Speakers
  
  vs
  
  AMP --> Sub --> Speakers

I ended up tightening my budget quite a bit on this new home theater, so some of my choices aren't as nice as what I had before, but I'm very happy with what I got in the end. I want to thank everyone who gave me advice in my last post here. It was all very helpful!

I went with a 65" Samsung 120Hz smart TV. I decided against getting the 240Hz because I couldn't see a difference between the two when looking at it, and the 3D makes my wife sick in any case. That saved me almost $500.

For the receiver, I took everyone's advice and opted away from the all-in-one set I'd been looking at. Instead, I got a great price on a Pioneer VSX-824 that I've been very happy with.

I know the Denon reciever is what everyone recommended, and it's what I bought at first, but strangely enough my PS3 didn't work with it. It worked just fine connected to the TV directly, and other devices worked with that HDMI cable and port, but the PS3 just told me to go fuck myself. A quick google search told me that it's a flaw in the way the HDMI handshake works with Denon receivers, so back it went.

I went with Pioneer speakers as well, hooking up a
pair of tower speakers for front left and right, a pair of matching bookshelf speakers for the rear, and the matching center speaker.

The subwoofer will have to wait, for now, but the plan is to purchase the matching subwoofer when we're ready.

Instead of the Harmony Ultimate, which didn't seem to get any good remarks, I opted for the much cheaper Harmony 650, which has made my wife very happy. No more frayed tempers about what button does what on which remote. I'm even buying my parents one for Christmas.

I'm hugely pleased with the upgrade over my previous setup, even if it's not everything it could have been. What do you all think?

It depends on what kind of setup. if you are looking at like logitech speakers then it may plug into the subwoofer. But a standard stereo system would have a reciever that has sound inputs and then has out puts for a left right front. front center. right left rear. and sub woofer

Check out the picture of the back of this amp

http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-E300-Channel-Networking-Receiver/dp/B00B7X2OV2/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1408791963&sr=1-1&keywords=5.1-Channel
Denon-AVR-E300
3d, five hdmi inputs, $249.99. this is as cheap as I would go for the AVR. it has Audyssey, an automatic speaker calibration system - which you'll find very impressive down the line.

If I were you, I'd invest in one nice center channel speaker and a halfway decent powered woofer (center and woofer do a vast portion of the heavy lifting apparently).

http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-Reference-Center-Channel-Loudspeaker/dp/B0040QW7PG/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1408792380&sr=1-1&keywords=Klipsch+RC-62+II
Klipsch RC-62 II Center Speaker
$399
you wont need to upgrade from this for a very long time.
if you want to save $50 bucks, you can go with the RC-52 instead of the rc-62.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002KVQBA/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Polk Audio PSW10 10-Inch Powered Subwoofer
Price: $101.98
a powered subwoofer keeps your AVR from having to work its ass off.


then I'd try to find some cheap surround and left/right speakers from goodwill or something that I wouldn't mind throwing away as more money becomes available and you decide to uprgrade.

This Denon has a lot of wattage per channel power. Or for slightly less power check out this Denon. I'm not sure if either has a phono input, it's not always advertised. If not, you can get an external one. I know, however, that Onkyo still uses phono inputs regularly.

A pair of speakers, a receiver and AppleTV will work.

or a pair of speakers and a receiver with airplay like this one: http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-E300-Channel-Networking-Receiver/dp/B00B7X2OV2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1376423437&sr=8-1&keywords=denon+e300

Not sure if this is still an active post but thought I would post here before submitting a new post to r/hometheater

I have done some research and ended up just getting a receiver and a pair of bookshelf speakers. I was wondering what you, and everyone else, thought about what I got.

-Denon AVR-E300

-Klipsch Reference RB-61 II

-Monoprice 14AWG Speaker Wire

-Sanus Speaker Stands

I do notice that the bookshelf speakers are not capable of hitting the low bass notes in some songs that I listen to. Is there a sub that you can recommend that would work with my setup that will not be too overpowered but still able to fill a decent sized room. I was looking at getting the Klipsch SW-112 Subwoofer but was unsure if it would be too much for the bookshelf speakers. I do plan on keeping everything and eventually going to a 5.1 surround setup.

How is this system for around a $1500 beginning 2.1 system. Is there anything better for the money I can buy in that budget?

SPEAKERS

SUB WOOFER

RECEIVER

Sure. I purchased,

Denon AVR-E300 There is a newer model out now I believe.

Micca MB42X bookshelf speakers

Micca MB42X-C Center speaker

BIC America F12 Subwoofer

Fluance AVBP2 Sattalite speakers

I live in a smallish apartment and the 12 inch subwoofer is close to overkill for me. It will put out some heavy punch when turned up. I am happy with the speakers that I have.

I have one in my amazon wishlist that I'm still doing research on. Consists of:

Dayton Audio Subwoofer.

Fluance Surround Sound.

Fluance Bookshelf Speakers.

Denon Refurbished Reciever.

It's definitely a work in progress. Still doing research but I'm trying to keep the price down while still getting great bang for buck.

Check out some of the recommendations over in /r/Zeos and posting this question in the /r/Hometheater subreddit. :)

I'm about to put together a surround sound setup for my room for about $850. I know it's well over $500 but for $500 you won't get much. Although I would recommend looking into the Sony SS CS5 Bookshelf Speakers they are outstanding for their price and you can get a quality AV Receiver for around $250 from Denon and Yamaha.

Also, the matching center for the Sony's performs really well. They're great speakers for the money. Of course you can always spend a couple hundred more and get something better, but the Sony speakers, price to performance is insane. I'd put them pretty close, sound quality wise, to the ELAC B5's. They don't have as much oomph as the ELAC does, but add a sub and you're golden ponyboy.

I have not heard or used the matching sub but I would assume it doesn't go low very well.

You've got tons of options...

These 3 way Sony bookshelf speakers are a great option that fits your budget. You could do 4 of those and the matching center: https://www.amazon.ca/Sony-SSCS5-3-Driver-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B00O8YLMVA

Beyond that... Fluance, Jamo, Micca, Elac and Klipsch all offer good speakers that fall in your budget.

The receiver is going to be a little more difficult, but still doable in your budget. Look at 5.2 options from Onkyo, Yamaha and Denon. You'll be able to save some money without sacrificing too much if you go for "last years model."

Something like this Denon: https://www.amazon.ca/DENON-AVR-S650H-Receiver-Streaming-Bluetooth/dp/B07QRC9NP5

Last little bit of advice... don't overspend on cables. For speaker wire, the bare bones Amazon basics is perfectly fine. Same thing for HDMI and anything else you need. Basically... don't get your cables from Best Buy and you'll be OK.

Frys often has good sales on Jamo speakers, but I'm not sure what's available in Europe. I've seen the S809 HCS 5 speaker set go as low as $399, so maybe you could get a good black Friday deal. The 803 set with bookshelf speakers is $269 right now, might be a decent option.

The Pioneer AJ set got some good initial reviews as a solid budget set, but I have seen some people complaining about it online after getting the set. The center channel in particular seems to be pretty lackluster based on user feedback.

The Sony Core series speakers get good reviews as a budget option. I've seen the bookshelf SSCS5 speakers go as low as $73 a pair and with black Friday coming up there might be some good deals on them.

For a decent sub you'll probably need to up your budget a little bit or wait until you can save a little more. The Bic PL200ii is a good sub for the price and often goes on sale for $250.

With black Friday deals maybe you could get the Jamo 803 set with a PL200ii sub within your budget or 4 Sony core bookshelf speakers and the matching SSCS8 center channel instead of the Jamos.

The Sony SSCS5 are on sale for $73 and they're excellent.

A Lepy is a cheap Chinese knockoff of an already cheap Chinese amplifier. Buy the real Lepai from Parts Express.

I recommend that you run 3.0 with the sony core series or the Polk S series (S15 + S30).


https://www.amazon.com/Sony-SSCS5-3-Driver-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B00O8YLMVA


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00O8YLNRS

1. No, unless you plan to SLI or use a lot of expansion cards, don't worry. mATX boards are just as capable as their bigger bros.
   
   
2. Memory speed only seems to have a real impact in situations where you are CPU bound (i.e. CPU is at max/near max usage).
   
   Digital Foundry did a test with an i3 6100 (overclocked I believe to around 4.2GHz) where memory speeds great enter than the DDR4 default of 2133 did actually make a difference. Not a huge one, but noticeable. If you want me to link it, just ask and I'll go find it.
   
   For the most part, RAM speed with a CPU that is not bound (i.e. 'Bottlenecked,' though I hesitate to use the term) won't make much difference. It is, however, considered helpful in PC's that are doing heavy CPU work regularly. It is definitely useful then!
   
   
3. Get a 120/250GB SSD, install the OS and some large open world games on it, and then chuck everything else on the HDD. SSDs nowadays are very reliable. JUST DON'T DEFRAG THEM.
   
   
4. Generally mid ATX tower cases can fit all standard Mobo sizes. ATX/Mini ATX/Micro ATX. I'm unsure about them fitting the E-ATX boards usually needed for LGA 2011 CPUs. As for a good silent case, the NZXT H440 is one I know to be good. There are others, but it's once I've had personal experience of using. It's not so good for ventilation however, so make sure it's got plenty of intake and exhaust.
   
   
5. Tbh, if you're going to use an i7, I thoroughly recommend you take the plunge and go for the full fat 6700k. As for coolers, the H440 can take pretty much all of the fattest air coolers out there (Noctua DH15, Cryorig R1 Ultimate, etc).
   
   If you're really set on a locked i7, then you can simply use the stock cooler. It won't look so good however, so maybe just pick up a basic 212 Evo? Will keep things very cool indeed.
   
   
6. I'm not your man for monitors I'm afraid! I'm sure there are, but others will know more than me.
   
   
7. Oddly enough, someone the other day on PCMR was kind enough to recommend me a good pair of speakers after my monitor ones died on me. Will link them below:
   
   There you go!

I'd think you're fine. If it becomes a problem, the M-Audio AV32 are probably passable.

You could look at some active speakers like the M-Audio-AV32.

They might be a shade more than 50, but worth it

Are you me? Also SG, been researching on 2.0 speakers & only just half set my mind on T40 because sale and free shipping.

Mackie has distributors in SG actually and you can get CR3 for S$189 from City Music.

Amazon does free shipping for M-Audio AV32 and Micca MB42X if you hit above US$125 - probably can do so if you buy a couple of records too. Kanto speakers have been on Massdrop too and maybe you can wait for their deals if you're not in a rush - not sure if shipping would kill you though.

Fluance Signature Series

If you don't have an amp, the SMSL Q5 Pro powers them nicely, but puts you just slightly over budget.

Without a lot of info, but assuming you want to keep it all pretty basic, this is my best shot. Before taxes you're at $687, but you could downgrade the sub to the Sub-1000, or skip the rear channels altogether for now. You'll need some speaker stands for the front, mounts for the rear, speaker wire, etc. So, not a perfect list, but here we go:

• Cheap but good receiver
  
• Decent L/R
  
• Matching Center
  
• Subwoofer
  
• Rear Channel

I'm wondering if I can get some help/advise in regards to speakers for my Fluance RT81 that is currently on order. I have narrowed it down to these two sets: Fluance Signature Series Bookshelf Speakers: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A5UB4JU/ref=twister_B01BKWQW3A?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Klipsch R-15M Bookshelf Speakers: https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-15M-Bookshelf-Speaker-Pair/dp/B00LMF41IY/

Both seem to be passive speakers so I would need an amp as well apparently. I don't plan to connect them to a AV receiver - just the turntable and speakers. Can anyone recommend a good amp for this setup? I found this one on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/ART-DJPREII-Audio-Turntable-Preamplifier/dp/B000AJR482/) which seems to get decent reviews.

I am new to vinyl but I want speakers that have some good bass to them (without a sub) since I won't be connecting to a receiver. Which of these speakers will provide the best highs and enough bass?

Any recommendations would be helpful - thank you!

I just recently ordered the Fluance SX6 speakers. I haven't heard them yet but they seem to be a great set of budget speakers. They are passive but you can get an amplifier that will drive them for very cheap. The speakers cost $130.00 USD. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IEDL8EM/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

These are supposed to be quite good as well! http://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1397965376&sr=1-1&keywords=micca+mb42x

You have many many options! I would lurk around the sub for a while to get some ideas. The suggestions that come to mind:

For speakers, going from lowest to highest price, I'd check out the Micca MB42x's, the Fluance SX6's, and the ELAC B5's.

The SMSL SA50 is a nice budget amp but (if you have the space for it) a used receiver is the best bang for your buck and will likely be more powerful.

I have the MB42x's. They're quite capable and will do just fine for me for some time. Just remember that there are so many options out there. Do your best to find the right setup for you.

Just to get started, I'd check out Zoes' 2.0 Desktop Suggestions list from his suggestions sub. His influence as a youtuber is a bit of a controversial topic on this sub but I'd say he has some good suggestions. Good luck and have fun!

Edit: I should also mention that it's always useful to demo equipment if you can. Hit up a local audio shops and demo some gear if you have the time.

Like the guy below said only get 2.0 at this price:

Denon S530:

https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrs530bt/denon-avr-s530bt-5.2-ch-x-70-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html

Fluance Bookshelves:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IEDL8EM/ref=twister_B075NQ9V2N?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Edit: Cost is $260, Or these Mica speakers for a little less:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E7H8GG2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_0KIMAbACJDP4B

Well there's a few options for you here. There's these, which I have a highly recommend. Fluance SX6. Or a cheaper yet still apparently great set of Micca speakers that are quite a bit smaller. These both require something like this to power it, along with some speaker wire and maybe banana plugs. You could also get some powered Audioengine A2
's. Those shouldn't require an amp. Overall I would highly recommend taking the plunge into quality sound equipment. I myself would buy the fluance one's again but it's up to you. The cost is most definitely worth it when it comes to these speakers.

Also check out the Fluance SX6 $130 a pair. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heo66YtJO1w https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IEDL8EM/ref=lp_3028595011_1_10_twi_col_2?srs=3028595011&ie=UTF8&qid=1520018914&sr=8-10

Monitors
>Dell UltraSharp 27" 4k "HDR" (sooo beautiful)
Acer KG240 24" 144hz

Speakers
>
Fluance SX6BK (Requires Amp/Stereo for power

PC
>NZXT ELITE
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Corsair 650W
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Corsair H100
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>Razer Blackwidow Ultimate OG (2011 - cherry mx blues)
Razer Deathadder
Corsair Mouse Mat
Gamecube Controller
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>2 Ikea Linnmon Table Tops 78" and 39"
Ikea Adjustable Legs
Ikea Shelf (used as 1 leg for smaller corner table)
Merax Racing Chair ($163)

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If you thought the RCAs sounded fine, then you'd probably be happy with the Blackweb. The electronics DM and I both agree that the new Blackweb soundbar is just the cheap RCA one in nicer packaging, so I doubt there's much difference.

But you do get what you pay for. If you save up, you can find a name brand used AVR on Craigslist or Facebook Marketplace for under $100. Spend another $100 on speakers (Something like this ) and you have a much better quality setup that you can upgrade off of in the future

I recently bought a pair of [Fluance SX6] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IEDL8EM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1) and a [SMSL SA50] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A2QLGEQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1) for my office and I love it! They're large though, 9.1 x 13.5 x 8.3 in.

The more I looked at them. Those speakers are surround speakers. The speakers below are the front ones for that make... So what do you think about those ones.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00IEDL8EM/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1WPEQCN6WJKZG

I got Klipsh R-14Ms and they work great, granted you have to get an amplifier and then banana plugs and speaker wire, which is easier than you think. All in all, it can be quite an adventure.

I have a pair of Klipsch R-14M bookshelf speakers paired with a Sony SACS9 10" sub, would the JBLs be an upgrade over the Klipsch speakers I use? I use a Schiit Modi as my source, would I be able to pair the JBLs with my subwoofer?

I assume the amplifiers in the JBLs are better than the small 20w/ch stereo amp I use for my passive speakers.

That’s gonna be tight but here is one setup. I would do a receiver and two bookshelves and maybe a sub and slowly build the system up. But if you must...

Receiver: $129 Denon S530bt

https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrs530bt/denon-avr-s530bt-5.2-ch-x-70-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html

Speakers: $299 Energy Take 5.1

Energy 5.1 Take Classic Home Theater System (Set of Six, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001202C44/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Uff5Ab4KFSVP9


Here are some decent bookshelves and sub to be used with the above receiver: $165

Klipsch R-14M 4-Inch Reference Bookshelf Speakers (Pair, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MGQAH2M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Hof5Ab9WCGEA2

Subwoofer: $212 Bic F12

BIC America F12 12-Inch 475-Watt Front Firing Powered Subwoofer https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_puf5AbGEX1XGJ

Klipsch RM14 speakers are on sale

For a little more, get the RM15 pair

both could go lower when Prime Day starts? but decent sales, especially on the RM15 which are at their historic low price right now.


both of these are passive, you'll need something to drive them

Hello, which speakers should I buy for my SO who build his PC and the only thing missing are some speakers? (Mainly used for gaming) The list includes the finalist based on suggestions:

-Klipsch R-14M https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-14M-Reference-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B00MGQAH2M/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
-Edifier R1700BT https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1700BT-Bluetooth-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B016PATXSI/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1549288911&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=Edifier+R1700BT&psc=1
-Micca PB42X https://smile.amazon.com/Micca-PB42X-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B00NXAEPDC
-Logitech G560 https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-LIGHTSYNC-Gaming-Speakers-Lighting/dp/B07B2WLS17/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1549291982&sr=8-1&keywords=g560+logitech+speakers


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I wouldn't pick up one of those amps. One of the features for one of them is that they don't spark when plugging power in.

For an amp, try this Micca Origain.

If you have the room, a receiver might be better for you. This Yamaha R-S202 would work well, but only works with 8 ohm speakers.

For speakers, you have a few options.

Klipsch R-14M

Pioneer SP-BS22-LR(6 ohm)

The Micca MB42X when they come back in stock.

Also, if you can build them, C-Note Speaker Kit. These will be better than any other cheap speaker you can find new. Will need around $50-100 in tools to build them.

As far as cheap subs go, this Dayton Audio SUB-1000 might be your best bet.

Parts Express coupon codes:

SSVTEN $10 off $100

CJ2FIVE $25 off $250

[Technical Pro IA1200 Slender integrated amp puts out about 30 watts times 2 class A/B which will sound better at higher volumes than a class "D" amp] (https://www.amazon.com/Technical-Pro-IA1200-Integrated-Amplifier/dp/B01LBXJ5A0/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=IA1200&qid=1558203431&s=electronics&sr=1-1-catcorr)

Also has 3.5mm headphone and input jacks, Bass/treble knobs and 4-5 preset loudness contours.

Klipsch R14 M much better sounding and efficent and will play louder than the micca

They will also put put more bass than the little micca.

So, just for fun I tried to price out a decent setup for ~$1k. Basically, you'd have to buy used/refurb to get a good value at that price point, at least right now. If you can wait, check out slickdeals and local retailers regularly to try to get blowout prices--it does happen with regularity.

Here's my pass at a starter 5.1 setup:

• Receiver: YAMAHA RX-V583 (refurb) for $270
  
• Left/Right speakers: Klipsch R-610F (used) for $178 ($89 x2)
  
• Center speaker: Klipsch R-52C (used) for $199
  
• Surrounds: Klipsch R-14M (new) for $138
  
• Subwoofer: BIC F12 (new) for $210
  
• TOTAL: $995 pre-tax
  
  That excludes stands/mounts, speaker wire, shelves, etc. Also, this is just going off of quick reviews--I have no personal experience with any of this equipment.
  
  In terms of placement, like AverageJoe said, I would:
  
  

• Remove the cubbies and globe
  
• Place the right speaker where the globe is with the left to match
  
• To make use of the space behind the left speaker, I might consider placing the receiver/media stuff there, and either put the center on a stand or possibly wall mount it
  
• I might consider getting an articulating TV mount to more easily position your TV relative to your speakers

Thank you. Same deal on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-14M-Reference-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B00MGQAH2M

I just picked up a pair of Klipsch R14m while they are on sale and they play metal damn good. Bass is a little lacking, but for the price you will not find a better speaker in construction or sound production in my opinion.

For under $100?


https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-T15-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B002RJLHB8/ref=sxin_3_osp48-e0ee21c7_cov?ascsubtag=e0ee21c7-7c6d-4572-84a0-f105bfd96edc&creativeASIN=B002RJLHB8&cv_ct_id=amzn1.osp.e0ee21c7-7c6d-4572-84a0-f105bfd96edc&cv_ct_pg=search&cv_ct_wn=osp-search&keywords=Polk+speakers&linkCode=oas&pd_rd_i=B002RJLHB8&pd_rd_r=0080b75e-794a-4003-9e85-58187e43ea5b&pd_rd_w=dqsMZ&pd_rd_wg=rbEhp&pf_rd_p=a23a388c-add5-49df-b293-a31ade89c6bf&pf_rd_r=GXAQKVCP5CHDTX38S4BD&qid=1574031515&tag=spyonsite-20


If you wanna spend a touch more for a bit more oomph,


https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-14M-Reference-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B00MGQAH2M/ref=sr_1_5?crid=9AXOZYE4XFEI&keywords=klipsch+bookshelf+speakers&qid=1574031679&s=electronics&sprefix=Klipsh+bookshelf+speakers%2Celectronics%2C169&sr=1-5

Cheap Setup, but it looks cool! The real money was spent on the TV/Living area audio system.

Qinpu Q-2 Hybrid Integrated Amplifier

Dayton Audio 6-1/2" Bookshelf Speaker

https://www.amazon.com/Lepai-LP-2020TI-Instruments-TPA3118-Amplifier/dp/B071FJF4FF/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=lepai&qid=1557851029&s=gateway&sr=8-1

https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-B652-AIR-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B00NOA58RS/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=dayton+audio&qid=1557851046&s=gateway&sr=8-5


Get that amp and speakers if he doesnt have those things. All three is like $180 and then ya just need some cables.

Polk Audio PSW505 12-Inch Powered Subwoofer (Single, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000092TT0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_mk92Bb24WHZNX

I don't know if they're still available but a while ago I got a Polk PSW505 which is now discontinued. They used to sell for $5-600 but after they were discontinued, they were still being sold new-in-box for $199. I got one at that price and it's pretty damn nice, it won't play low enough to handle m.A.A.d city but it's about as good of a sub as you can get at that price.

Just checked, Amazon still has them: http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-12-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B000092TT0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1381375448&sr=8-1&keywords=psw505

I would also look into this: http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1381375448&sr=8-3&keywords=psw505

and this: http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SUB-1200-12-Inch-Subwoofer/dp/B00669L3HS/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1381375448&sr=8-13&keywords=psw505

Sub https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000092TT0/ref=psdc_172568_t2_B000P0528K
Speakers
https://www.amazon.com/Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Andrew-Jones/dp/B014GSEQ06/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1482250876&sr=8-2&keywords=elac+b6
Amp
https://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-A-9010-Integrated-Stereo-Amplifier/dp/B00SY20TE8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1482250953&sr=8-3&keywords=onkyo+tx-8020

I put some more time into researching a solution for you:

• Speakers: [Mackie CR4 - $149.99](https://www.amazon.com/Mackie-CR4-* Pair-Reference-Multimedia/dp/B00KVEIY4O)
  
  
• Subwoofer: Polk Audio PSW505 - $179.99
  
  Explanation:
  
  There are a wide variety of quality active monitors for $149.99. I don't have experience with the Mackie's myself, but it is a trusted brand, and they are well reviewed.
  
  Finding a good subwoofer in this price bracket is very challenging. You already have a halfway decent sub with your Logitech system, so I needed to find something that would be worth the upgrade. Many subs in this price range have under powered amplifiers, or use misleading marketing to make them seem better than they are.
  
  Polk makes quality products, I used to own an entire Polk home theater system. The Polk sub offers a large 12" driver (important for hitting low bass, which is the whole point). It is capable of playing without distortion at lower frequencies than just about everything in it's class, and it has a more powerful amplifier than most other subs in it's class.

Audioengine A2

Audioengine A5+

Polk Subwoofer

FiiP Digital-analog-converter

These are just a few of the entry level options. Don't take my word for it. I don't own any of these items. I just see them pop up from time to time as good entry-level options. Both pairs of speakers I posted are powered, meaning they have amplification built in. They wont require an external amplifier. Another option is to buy a pair of passive speakers, like these, and buy a basic receiver, like this, to power them.

Again, these are just some EXAMPLES. I am not recommending any of these items specifically, as I have not heard them. I am suggesting that you do some research and figure out what works best for your needs and budget.

You'll notice I also posted a subwoofer and DAC (digital-analog-converter). The subwoofer is going to allow you to hear the lower frequencies that those small speakers wont reach, which you might find necessary if you like drums. The external DAC will allow you to bypass the shitty DAC in your current source (a laptop, I'm assuming?). You'll be able to send a digital signal out of your source (provided it has a digital output) to the DAC where it will be converted to the analog signal that will go to the amplifier. It isn't necessary, but it will improve sound quality since the shitty DAC in your laptop or computer will be bypassed.

the receiver

the towers

the center channel

the sub

For the price, I think the Pyle 8 channel amp that somebody posted is a great choice. Here's and Amazon link, a little cheaper than B&H. Seems to have good reviews, although I really doubt it's 1000w/ch. Probably something like ~150RMS. Pyle's okay, and GREAT when you consider the price. I've got a few stupid-cheap Pyle amps and speakers here and there and they're fine. Cool thing about that amp is that you could break the zones into different audio sources if you want.
I'd pair it with these - you might not even need a woofer.
When you set the system up listen carefully for clipping/distortion and label your nominal operating level and your 'ABSOLUTELY DO NOT GO LOUDER THAN THIS' level in big bright labels.
If you do end up getting a sub I second /r/CashKeyboard's recommendation to go with an active (aka Powered) sub, and remember placement is important for getting the most out of it.

Music Hall mmf 2.2 and either the pioneer bs-22 or these yamaha's http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-NS-6490-Bookshelf-Speakers-Finish/dp/B00018Q4GA?ie=UTF8&keywords=yamaha%20ns-6490&qid=1463195316&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

. I also found a RS 300 used for 200$ so I'm thinking that over the 201 at this point.

Don't know why those are described as bookshelf, they are actually designed fur home theatre use. They have a terrible lie frequency response of 83hz. I would buy these for the same money. Much better frequency response.

http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-NS-6490-Bookshelf-Speakers-Finish/dp/B00018Q4GA/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1415666636&sr=8-8&keywords=Bookshelf+speaker

I'm doing the exact same thing. This is my plan. (As a disclaimer, I am fairly new and a student of /r/Zeos.)

This Receiver

Front Speakers

Center Speaker

Subwoofer

If that sub is too large for the mobility you want, you could go with this, which is quite a bit smaller.

All that (with the F12) will be around $525.

If you're doing surround, which may limit mobility, I'd throw in a pair of these.

Don't forget some good quality speaker wire and banana plugs make life easier if you want to move it easily.

Agree with areodeck, start with a good 5.1 system. If you decide you want 7.1, you can always add speakers later.

I have the GT1080, you're going to love it.

As for audio, $500 might be pushing it for separates. You're on the right track though, either of those receivers will be good it's just going to depend on if you want to expand to 7.x later on.

These Fluance bipole surrounds are a good value and highly recommended- http://www.amazon.com/Fluance-AVBP2-Surround-Satellite-Speakers/dp/B00067OLOS/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8

You can also check out the guides at https://www.reddit.com/r/Zeos/ for more recommendations.

Good luck!

Any reason you're looking at bookshelves for the surrounds instead of bi pole / di pole? I have the HTD L3's for my LCR and these for my surrounds. I really like them and they are MUCH cheaper than the HTD bi pole surrounds.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00067OLOS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Currently, $129.99 on amazon.ca and amazon.com (thats a first.).

edit: These

I'm looking into setting up a basic system. Budget is $300 USD give or take. Primarily these are going to be in my bedroom, apartment building, roughly 315x315 CM (10.3ft^2), but will likely get pulled out every once in a while to the living room, which is somewhat larger.

This is going to be playing a variety of music, TV and movies and potentially down the track being plugged into my PC, but that's a while of.

The challenge here is that I'm in NZ, and local offerings are generally over priced. I can order from amazon (and usually with decent/free shipping), and you can see what will ship here if you select "AmazonGlobal Eligible" under International shipping under search.

Not to mention power comes at 240v or so, and not the 120 or so that US voltage does.


For speakers I was looking at either of the 2 options, I've read good things about both but really I'm not to sure.
http://www.amazon.com/Fluance-SX6-Definition-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B00067OS0A
http://www.amazon.com/America-FH-65B-Bookshelf-Speakers-6-5IN/dp/B002ISTP8K


Amp is were I run into trouble, finding one that can ship here is proving to be... difficult, I was looking at these ones though
http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-DTA-120-Digital-Amplifier/dp/B00HFG3FYA
http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-APA150-150-Watts-Amplifier/dp/B000VKXLBO

Thanks

something like this would be a much better buy. Those sonys don't have a great reputation. If money is tight these are better.

What's your budget? Based off your table (no hate, I have the same one), I'm going to assume you're in a similar situation as me. Pick one of these three up:

http://www.amazon.com/Fluance-SX6-Definition-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B00067OS0A/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&qid=1451552816&sr=8-17-spons&keywords=cambridge+audio+bookshelf&psc=1

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG

http://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2

Honestly, I would do them from top to bottom but that is just preference. I would buy any of them any day, but I am partial to the top because I love the look, and the middle one because of the history behind the maker. The middle ones have an insane amount of cult following in the audiophile community because they were designed by a guy who designs speakers that cost 10,000+ a piece.

Here's what I picked up based on the Zeos 2.0 recommendation thread.

• Speakers - Fluance SX6
  
• DAC - SMSL SD793-II
  
• Amp - SMSL SA50 50Wx2
  
  Here's what it looks like setup at my desk - LINK
  
  After installing and setting up Equalizer APO on my system and tuning it by ear through a WIDE assortment of music, this setup sounds absolutely amazing. With the amp and Windows at half volume, it's loud enough to be heard throughout my 2-story house with no audible distortion.
  
  Near-field performance at my desk, where my head it at the peak of basically an equilateral triangle based on where I sit in relation to the speakers, is absolutely astonishing.
  
  I use this setup for games, music, and audio editing for video work I do. It's awesome all-around.
  
  Throw a pair of stands in there like these and it's right at your $300 budget.

$99 : SMSL Q5 Pro Dac + Amplifier
$90 : Micca MB42X Speakers
If you can stretch your budget a little:
$130 : Fluance SX6

Future upgrade : Add a subwoofer

Skip the DAC, you don't need it unless your source's DAC is noisy. Used would get you better stuff, but it's harder to find and quality isn't guaranteed.

Speaker ideas: Pioneer or Fluance

Amp ideas: Topping or Audiosource

Add a Dayton sub-1200 when your budget increases.

Fluance SX6 High Definition Two-way Bookshelf Loudspeakers - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00067OS0A/

Behringer A500 Reference Amplifier - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CZ0RL0/

Eventually I will get the DAC and subwoofer, but I think this is a good start.

I also need to purchase speaker stands and do proper acoustic treatment.

Hi all,

I'm going to pick up a U-Turn Orbit Plus: http://store.uturnaudio.com/products/orbit-plus-turntable

I already have speakers and a power amp, but I'd like to get a tube pre-amp for the turntable. My power amp and speakers are nothing special:

T Amp: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F0H8TOC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Fluance bookshelf speakers: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00067OS0A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

So I don't want to spend too much on a tube pre-amp, especially since I'm guessing most of you will say a tube pre-amp will be overkill for the current quality of speakers. I don't mind building the pre-amp either, so if there is a cool kit out there I'd go for that too.

You can certainly use the MB42x-C, but I would think that you'd be better off long term with the C5. I haven't heard the same criticisms about the C5 but I can't defend it either. Even a "poorly matched" LCR would still be better than mixing and matching, IMO.

As for the surrounds, you really don't want the speakers behind the listening position on a 5.1 system. Instead of a seamless transition from the front soundstage to the surrounds, you'll hear it jump to the speakers behind you. Your receiver correction will handle the fact that the wall and surrounds are close to the listener.

If you're worried about the speakers themselves being too close to the wall, you may want to reconsider the MB42x's and instead go with something meant for wall mounting, such as the Polk OWM3's... https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Wall-Speaker-Black/dp/B0018QNYVM

I like the idea of the SMSL Q5 (enough power, sub out, built in dac with USB and optical, bass and treble controls, and a remote for $120).

It would pair well with a nice on wall speaker like the Polk OWM3

And if you need more low end, you can snag a Dayton Sub on the cheap down the road.

I would add, stay away from the Vizo soundbars. I have helped two of my friends set them up and they are overall pretty terrible. The sound out of my buddy's 65" Vizio TV actually sounded as good as, if not a tad bit better than the soundbar. It was pretty weird. And the sub is boomy and the crossover seems to be set higher than expected since the soundbar speakers don't have any low end. Because of that, the sound coming from the sub is very locatable, limiting the placement options one would have.

Well, nice is a relative term when spending $300 on speakers and a subwoofer. Its alot to ask for on that budget IMO, but it can certainly be done if it just plugs into a computer. /r/zeos has lots of good info, using his guide, I'd pick the Polk On-Walls for $100, Martin Logan 8" Subwoofer for $130 and an SMSL SA50 for an amp. You'll need banana connectors, speaker wire and a 3.5mm to stereo RCA for connectivity. That should be a good balance of sound. Don't get this setup without the subwoofer though, those speakers are designed presuming you have a sub, and will fit nicely on your desk, and the sub is small enough to fit comfortably underneath.

Receiver ($110): http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavr1513/denon-avr-1513-5.1ch-home-theater-receiver-3d-ready/1.html

Receiver - 2nd option: http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavre300/denon-avr-e300-5.1-3d-networking-receiver-airplay/1.html

-Could be good for future upgrades. Has some networking functionality and a lot more wattage.

Stereo Speakers ($80): http://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2

Sub ($130): http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Dynamo-300-Theater-Subwoofer/dp/B004LRPXAU/

Wire ($18): http://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-50-Feet-High-Purity-Oxygen-Free-Speaker/dp/B001UNLTVK/

With tax and shipping though, that is a bit over your budget, should be around $350-400. It should sound really good, plus leave you the option to add a center channel and surround if he ever wants it.

If you want to cut the initial cost, you could forego the sub until a later date and it would still sound very good and that would get you back into budget. You could also forego the sub to purchase the more expensive receiver if that appeals to you. The nice thing about a receiver is it gives you lots of options for future upgrades.

I have the same pair and I added a Dynamo 300 for the low end. Sounds amazing.

http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Dynamo-300-Theater-Subwoofer/dp/B004LRPXAU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1463339823&sr=8-1&keywords=dynamo+300

Since you mentioned that you're looking to upgrade to 5.1 at some point in the future, I'm assuming that you won't be using this setup for near-field listening and that this fits more into the music-centric, home theater category.

For the subwoofer, I would suggest going with the Martin Logan Dynamo 300 unless you have a large-ish room. It holds its own pretty well in regards to extension and clarity despite its small size and low output. You won't be rattling shit off the walls, but it will definitely improve the lacking mid/low-end of the MB42x speakers.

For the amp, I would suggest skipping the 2-channel upgrade and moving straight into a 5.1 channel receiver since you're planning on doing surround in the future. You'll end up saving some cash overall as well as gaining some additional features. Unfortunately, you'll be pretty close budget-wise. Going for a refurbished Denon AVR-S500BT will keep you a buck or two under. If going refurb is out for you, you might want to have a look at the SMSL Q5 Pro.

Enjoy your keyboard and the miccas.

In 6 months or whenever you get upgradeitis, save up and spring for a nice sub like this: http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Dynamo-300-Theater-Subwoofer/dp/B004LRPXAU

When shopping for budget subs, you can usually get slap, or musicality. Depends what you prefer.

My Lepai came with a 12v 2amp power supply. But, it's rated at 25watts/channel, so I found a 6 amp power supply and it pushes these speakers just fine without clipping (which it used to do with the stock power supply). I've bought 3 Lepais now and they all come with the 2amp power supplies, which is retarded, but what do you want for $20?

I would think that any bookshelfs would be an upgrade. The issue is the sub uses RCA jacks for the interconnect so you'll probably have to make some cables or sacrifice an RCA cable as most nice speakers use banana plugs or simply exposed wire. Also the amp in that system is only rated at 40 watts RMS (into probably 6 ohms) so even less into a standard 8 ohm speaker which is not very much.

What is your budget because there are a lot of options?

If you want a simple recomendation I would say get these if you want a cheap upgrade:
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS21-LR-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers-Black/dp/B004MEWZE4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1325217347&sr=8-2

They are reviewed very highly and compete with speakers more than twice their price.



To be honest if you are serious about making music you are much better off with powered monitors than you are with shitty logitech speakers.

What's your budget?

This receiver is decent and indeed has a phono preamp integrated, so the only thing left to buy would be a pair of speakers. I recommend these: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0045US6DE

If your budget is tighter, then these: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004MEWZE4

Edit: You didn't mention anything about the cartridge. This is an important piece of your setup.

Wireless speakers are not going to be cost effective and you'd still need a power source. Below is a setup for around $200 that would sound great. All you'd need to add is some speaker wire and either some wall mounts or shelves. (You might be able to find better deals with some shopping around.) Good Luck.

I've seen these as low as $49 a pair.
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS21-LR-80-Watts-2-Way-Speakers/dp/B004MEWZE4/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1413466468&sr=8-6&keywords=pioneer+andrew+jones+speakers

OR
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=109&cp_id=10906&cs_id=1090603&p_id=10800&seq=1&format=2

Receiver
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-STRDH130-Channel-Stereo-Receiver/dp/B006U1VH2S/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1413466553&sr=8-4&keywords=2ch+receiver

Hello fellow LP120 owner!

Your new turntable comes with a built in preamp, but you still need an amp to amplify the line level audio. Records necessitate a preamp, as the audio level is quite low compared to other sources, (i.e. CD player, iPod). In addition to boosting the audio signal to something your amp can work with, the preamp also applies RIAA equalization which more or less adds back in the low end.

Some of the older amps out there have a specific PHONO input, which is designed to do the same thing a preamp does. Almost all of the new amps on the market have gotten rid of these inputs, as "no one listens to vinyl anymore". You don't need one with a PHONO input though, you just need a good 2-channel amp to power your speakers.

If you don't want to spend much, the Lepai LP 2020 is probably the best bang for your buck. I'm using it right now with these Pioneer bookshelf speakers (very similar to yours) and they sound great. I don't have a recommendation for anything more powerful, but you won't really need anything more powerful unless you go with bigger speakers down the road. Don't forget to grab some speaker wire to wire it all up.

Have fun!

Alright, well, a refurb Denon 1612 will run you $170 (very good quality and good vendor), then paired with the Pioneer BS21 at $80/pair. If you can wait, Newegg typically runs sales on them for $50/pair.

Anywho, if you buy right now, you'll spend $250 for a system that will thwomp any soundbar. It'll also be very expandable, allowing you to add a sub (see Dayton subs for budget offerings) and surround sound when you want.

Hope this helps!

Well basically a set up is puzzle you can build up over time. Planar 2 is a solid table that you wouldn't need to upgrade for years, don't know if it comes with a cover though. It is a solid table built around delivering the best sound from the cartridge to the amp. Now one big part of how your records will sound is the cart, the one the planar 2 comes with is totally fine for start but you will want to upgrade it pretty soon. I would recommend you to take a look at this Pro-ject Debut Carbon Esprit. Mainly because it is more bang for the buck imo (electronic speed switch and speed control, carbon arm, acrylic platter and a way better cartridge), but that is totally an opinion.

Now for the rest of the set up I would suggest buying the preamp separate. For example this Cambridge phono preamp is a solid starting point. There are two reasons for this, you can easily switch it to a new one down the line and you can get some money back for it.

The second one is that you can start by getting powered speakers, for example these Audio engine A5+ and down the line upgrade to an amp and bookshelf speakers. Powered speakers are a totally valid option nowadays and these will give a detailed sound with the table. They are also way easier to get your cash back when moving forward.

What I linked up there is a pretty solid setup focusing in sound for a pretty rough 1000 when done trough amazon.

1. These speakers
   
   
2. I need some good speakers to hook up to my turntable and computer that aren't little crappy computers speakers. These have gotten spectacular reviews and are portable enough to move around easily.
   
   
3. If I never got this item, I would be very sad since music is my passion, and I couldn't imagine a life without it. And as of now I only have little tinny speakers so I'm not enjoying it as much as I could.
   
   Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
   

Audioengine A5+ Active 2-Way Speakers
https://www.amazon.com/Audioengine-Active-2-Way-Speakers-Black/dp/B005OA3BSY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1501190690&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=Audioengine&psc=1&smid=AKR88PAWTQVN2

Bowers & Wilkins MM-1 Hi-Fi Speakers
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003R6U6HG/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=25INFPFI9SDAJ&coliid=I1SRG4TS8V042N&psc=1

Just to get going, you need powered speakers. Could be something cheap like this or something more high dollar like this.

After you've had it a while, there's plenty of upgrades and DIY improvements you can make, see this blog. But those aren't needed for starting. Enjoy!

These are some really nice speakers.


Audioengine A5 Plus Classic 150W Powered Bookshelf Speakers with Remote Control, Built In Analog Amplifier - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005OA3BSY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_fw1TDbZYJJNFG

You should check out a pair of powered speakers. These are highly regarded.

Speakers: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00067OS0A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Amp:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F0H8TOC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I don't need support for a turntable or phono, but a regular plug (or port) to plug into my phone (or play Bluetooth audio, no preference).

Thanks for the guide! I just want to make sure I understand everything.

I just bought the Denon AVR-E300. I'm looking to set up a 2.0 system for my TV, to eventually upgrade to a 3.1 and, when I get more space, a 5.1 system.

Per this post, the Denon acts as an amp, correct? So now all I need are two bookshelf speakers and the speaker wire (which you recommend be at least 14/2 Awg 250-Feet In Wall Speaker Wire)?

I have about a $200 budget for the speakers. Between the Micca and the Fluance it seems like you prefer the Fluance?

I need some advice.

I bought this Record Player and these set of speakers


Unfortunately, I overlooked the fact that these speakers dont come with volume control(I was looking at similar speakers that did and got them mixed up). What are my options here?

> Fluance

Interesting. I just found these and think I can pair it with this and a handful of speaker wire.

? and cheap. IN Canada.

What you think?

Polk OWM3. Flat and easy to wall mount but crossover at 100hz.


https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51zrv1psmfL._SL1200_.jpg

https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Wall-Speaker-Black/dp/B0018QNYVM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1518556572&sr=8-1&keywords=polk+owm3

I wanna give you a comparison build if you ditch wireless and go for a traditional passive speaker system. This is just an example:

• AVR: Denon AVR X-1400H ($279, https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrx1400h/denon-avr-x1400h-7.2-ch-x-80-watts-a/v-receiver-w/heos/1.html)
  
  
• L/R speakers: HTD Level Two ($229/pair, https://www.htd.com/Level-TWO-Bookshelf-Speakers)
  
  
• Center speaker: HTD Level Two Center ($149, https://www.htd.com/Level-TWO-Center-Channel-Speaker)
  
  
• Surround speakers: Polk OWM3 ($99/pair, https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Wall-Speaker-Black/dp/B0018QNYVM)
  
  
• Subwoofer: BIC America F12 ($219, https://www.bestbuy.com/site/bic-america-formula-12-475w-powered-subwoofer-black/4235056.p?skuId=4235056&intl=nosplash)
  
  That's a full-fledged 5.1 system that will knock the socks off of a soundbar or any wireless system for $975 total. Some quality oxygen-free copper 14AWG speaker wire, banana plugs and some raceways (or ghost wire https://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Adhesive-Speaker-Conductor-Sewell/dp/B079NTKWS2) would run you about an additional $100~$150.
  
  If you have the room for it, replace the bookshelf L/R speakers with towers of equivalent price from the link I showed you above. And you can add a second sub in the future and 2 Atmos speakers on your ceiling. Totally modular.
  
  You can even shell out a bit more and get ridiculously good bass performance to make your movies + games + music that much more immersive. I'd recommend either an HSU VTF-3 MK5 for around $600 (http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/vtf-2mk5.html), or an SVS PB-1000 (which I personally have and recommend) which runs around $430 used (https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00K88UMPW/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all).

For my Front height speakers, I use a pair of Polk Audio OWM3. They work rather incredible.

I bought them August 13th, but yeah I'll definitely look into the warranty. I'm just looking to replace the speakers as a whole with two new speakers. I though something like this might do the trick, but like I said I just don't know the intricacies of speakers. I'm not sure what amps, watts, and ohms have to do with compatibility, if they are even relevant at all.

Edit - Here is a picture of the speaker specifications

I am new to the home theater/audio hobby. I am looking to start simple with my new HT setup. I have a receiver, but am looking for new speakers. Can I start with just a front left/right? Are these viable options?

• bookshelves
  
  
• floorstanding
  
  or
  
  
• wall mounted
  
  Any insight would be much appreciated!
  
  Thanks.

By wider angle, do you mean further apart than the fronts? I intend to put them as far to the sides of the room as I can in the corner, and angling them slightly in toward the viewing position.

What do you think of the Polk OWM3 that /u/Armsc posted? $90 refurbished is about half what I paid for my fronts, so that seems reasonably proportionate.

My concern with bipoles(and especially dipoles) on the walls there would be a potential phasing issue with a reflection off of the back wall. There would also be an associated gain from the rearward facing speakers of the bipole firing into corners.

Since it doesn't seem like you're opposed to wall mounting speakers, you could go for something like the Polk OWM3 which have a variety of mounting options and could even be mounted in the back corners firing into your room or these JBL Studio 210's firing in towards your couch. These Fluance Signature Series bookshelves are front ported and come with a place to wall mount them as well. Good luck

So I see people are using these as Atmos speakers. Would it be better to directly mount to the ceiling pointing down or on the front wall pointing down? Polk Audio OWM3 On-Wall Speaker (Pair, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0018QNYVM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_FJ6ZAb0VMVVPW

> If you're worried about the speakers themselves being too close to the wall, you may want to reconsider the MB42x's and instead go with something meant for wall mounting, such as the Polk OWM3's... https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Wall-Speaker-Black/dp/B0018QNYVM

The set I'm worried about being too close to the wall (in my original scenario) are the Fluance AVBP2 surrounds.

I've read that bipolar surrounds can sound decent behind the listener, that's the only reason I debated that setup.

I will check out the Polk's. I think I'm probably going to end up going with the Elac B6's and eventually the Elac C5 center.

I've just been browsing amazon and found a pretty good setup for my budget.

Receiver

Left and right speakers

Center speaker

Rear speakers

Almost 600$ for the entire setup. I was also interested in the Dali Zensor 1 speakers that was recommended to me earlier, but they made the total price go up to almost 900$ I'm still curious if I should go with the Micca MB42X shelf speakers over the Dayton though.

​

Here it goes. So I've been put in charge of replacing the sound system for our rowing facility. We have $1000 (with some leeway) and the only condition is that the speakers have to be wall mountable. We need 7 speakers in total and we already have a receiver (a gift from an alumni who decided to go sonos). What would you recommend reddit/what do you think about the Polk OWM3?

Excellent point...and pretty much why I decided on trying to get an AV installer...I'm completed baffled where to put them.

• I was considering the Polk Aurdio OWM3 in white or the Micca COVO-S compact bookshelves after seeing Zeo's review of them...they seemed like they would potentially could be slipped into an arm of some sort, mounted at G0 or L0, and angled down towards the main viewing area without being too obvious.
  
  
• Then I learned how important it was to be at ear level from a prior post. At the time I was so desperate that I was considering trying to do wireless surrounds as bookshelves that I could just move into place on movie night at positioned marked "Gx and Lx (near the middle of the wall)" since "G0 or L0 (Mounted on the upper wall)" didn't seem very reasonable since it was so off of ear level. I figured that on movie night I could just use a rocketfish setup to slide a surround into position @ Gx or Lx and plug one of them in for a few hours...and maybe keep one on a windowsill (@ Gx) ready to go to make it even easier.
  
  
  
• Completely confused, I had a local AV installer stop out and they suggested that perhaps mounting at G0-2 or L0-1 may actually be possible. They even thought that a bipole (or even a monopole) would be possible. Ultimately they suggested the Paradigms bipoles listed above.
  
  
• Honestly bipoles or monopoles (Eg Polk Aurdio OWM3 or Micca COVO-S) don't matter too much to me...as unobtrusive as possible would be preferred. Bipoles sound like perhaps they may be better for non-standard seating at a love seat, at the kitchen table watching TV, or just playing some music for the holidays...but I'm certainly open to suggestions!
  
  
• I was considering asking for an alternate surround from what the AV installer, but quite honestly, I don't know how to best compare them with my current layout, equipment and future plans. Could a ceiling speaker be added in or sliding a wireless speaker into Gx or Lx in the next 5-10 years? I have no idea...it sounds great in theory, but I have no clue what would be recommended or most flexible. But if there is an installer that can help out and provide guidance, Im more than willing to go with whatever they recommend

Hey yo, I've been doing my fair share of research these past couple of days and this sub as well as /r/Zeos have been a huge help. That budget can definitely get you started with something nice.


These suggestions are all from reading this sub, avsforums, amazon reviews, you name it.. I really have no on-hand experience as I'm saving up for a build myself. (Here is my post in case you're interested)

• Pioneer SP-FS52 - These puppies seem to be a huge favorite everywhere. I did see someone post they were cheaper a couple of weeks back so it's up to you if you want to wait. They are also Pioneer as you mentioned you wanted to stick with that.
  
  
  
• Denon S500 - This brand is very reputable here, as well as the site. Don't be discouraged by the "Refurbished". I'm planning on getting a receiver from this brand and site and jumping on maybe 1 or 2 years of Extended Warranty just for giggles. It has integrated bluetooth as you mentioned that was important. Like someone above mentioned, you can always go a different route and purchase a receiver without bluetooth technology and get a Google Chromecast (~$25-$30) or Bluetooth dongle. (Be aware you will loose quality when you go wireless)
  
  
  
• As for a sub, someone needs to chime in, but these two are held in nice regard: Martin Logan Dynamo 300 and Dayton 1000
  
  
  That should keep you around your budget and have some spare for cables and any other expenses that might come up along the way. Maybe some cable management or whatever.
  
  
  Good luck
  

Hello, I've purchased the Presonus Eris E4.5 for my computer speakers and wanted to add on a subwoofer for a 2.1 setup. I'm debating between the
-Dayton Audio SUB-1200 vs the
-Martin Logan Dynamo 300 and finally the
-Yamaha YST-SW012.


The primary usage is for music in a small room approximately 7'x14' (dorm). I plan to place the sub near my desk. Is there anything else that I need to know about how to hook up my speakers and a subwoofer to my computer? Are there any other suggestions? I'd like to keep the price under $150.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but would I have to connect a 3.5mm to RCA from the computer to the sub, then speaker wire to RCA from sub to active speaker, and then speaker wire from active speaker to passive speaker?

Small apartment set ups are the last place you want to put a 12inch sub unless you want a mountain of noise complaints.
For a room that small something smaller that still clean would be this from Martin Logan while it isn't the most powerful thing in the world its cheap and won't anger the neighbors nearly as much as a 12" Dayton

I stretched my budget to the max but selected out these components. Anything you'd change?

Denon avr-s710w - $260

MartinLogan Dynamo 300 - $150

ELAC B5 Debut Series 5.25" Bookshelf Speakers - $230

ELAC C5 Debut Series 5.25" Center Speaker - $180

Total: ~$820.00

Any way I could get something similar to this cheaper?

Thank you for the recommendations, greatly appreciated. Question - is there a reason why you wouldn't go with a ML sub such as this one? Is the $580 price tag for the VTF going to be that much better vs. the ML for $150?

http://smile.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Dynamo-300-Theater-Subwoofer/dp/B004LRPXAU/ref=pd_bxgy_23_img_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=14V7BNF7GZKQNCY3VKMN

https://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Dynamo-300-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B004LRPXAU

That's the exact listing I bought mine from. They've been discontinued for a while but you can still buy them there. I've never seen it for any other price than $200

Speakers: Pioneer Andrew Jones

Receiver: Onkyo Refurbished

Subwoofer: MartinLogan

Speaker cable: monoprice

Total Budget: around $1080.

I want to buy my first 2.1 home listening setup.


1. What is your budget?


Looking to spend $400 at max.


2. What are you looking for?


I am looking for a 2.1 setup. I was considering getting a pair of Polk bookshelf speakers. I have a friend who works for the Polk corporate office and can get me very good deals, right around cost. But I am totally willing to look at other options in my price range.


This is the sub I was thinking about getting, MartinLogan Dynamo 300 - LINK


This is the amp I was thinking of getting - SMSL SA-50 LINK


Or maybe this amp, AudioSource AMP-100 - LINK


Not sure which amp to get. I am just starting my journey into the world or quality home listening.


3. How will you typically be using the gear?


I will be using this for home listening. Playing almost all music from my computer. I already have an external soundcard and DAC.


4. What gear do you own?


I own an external soundcard and a DAC. Plus a pair of DT 770 headphones.


5. What do you intend on using for a source?


My computer > external soundcard > DAC


6. What material will you be using your gear for?


I will be using my gear to listen to music only. My taste is all over the board. I listen to every genre and do, at times, like a bit of a stronger low end. Other times I like a more neutral low end that doesn't cover anything.


7. Are you willing to buy used?


I am willing to but new but would prefer to buy new.

Here's my space. Let me know what you think. As you can tell a while ago when I had Pioneer floorstanding speakers and my setup (with the sofas) wasn't the best since it blocked the left speaker. I didn't want to raise those speakers too high. Would it be wise to hang bookshelf speakers and mount them on the wall by the screen or would that cause the screen to shake from the speakers that I get which may be too powerful?

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Here's what I was thinking:
Bookshelf speakers: http://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2?ie=UTF8&keywords=Mb42x&qid=1464752605&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

Rears: I could get matching rears like above or get these: http://www.amazon.com/Fluance-AVBP2-Surround-Satellite-Speakers/dp/B00067OLOS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1464752679&sr=8-1&keywords=Avbp2

Center: http://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-C-Channel-Speaker-Tweeter/dp/B00HHFBEK6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1464752755&sr=8-1&keywords=Mb42x-c

Sub: http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Dynamo-300-Theater-Subwoofer/dp/B004LRPXAU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1464752815&sr=8-1&keywords=Dynamo+300

OR I could get this Pioneer setup.
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/Speakers/Speaker+Packages/SP-PK22BS

How about the HSU STF-1?

The Martin Logan Dynamo 300 is the cheapest pretty good option based on what I could find and should work well in your room.

I would try the JBL's without a sub given the small space that you are working work they may be enough.

good pair of speakers, currently $40:
http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-B652-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B002RMPHMU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1412779300&sr=8-1&keywords=dayton+b652

good sub, currently $130:
http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Dynamo-300-Theater-Subwoofer/dp/B004LRPXAU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1412779380&sr=8-1&keywords=martin+logan+dynamo+300

Would a set of Fluance SX6's and a MartinLogan Dynamo 300 Sub sound substantially better and louder than my Logitech Z623 setup? The mids on the logitechs are super bland and the bass is muddy but boomy.
Also, what unit would I need to properly hook up the Fluances and sub to a 1/8" computer out?

I should add that i'll be using this setup in a 18x12x10 living room and an 8" sub just didn't work out. I bought and returned a Martin Logan dynamo 300 because at low volumes the sub made no difference to the other side of the room

I'm a little confused if you're saying $500 for speakers alone, or the set up. Heres a list I put together for a friend who had the same budget. Hope this helps.

($200) http://amzn.com/B00B981F38
($10) http://amzn.com/B006LW0W5Y
($12) http://amzn.com/B005EZTUMU
($130) http://amzn.com/B00067OS0A
($130) http://amzn.com/B004LRPXAU

Edit: If you go this route, don't forget these.

http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-ULTRA-Series-Subwoofer-Cable/dp/B003FVYXY0/ref=pd_bxgy_e_text_y

http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-ULTRA-Series-Y-Adapter-Inches/dp/B004EBX5GW/ref=pd_sim_e_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=0HP63MCWR61GRJ58Y5BY

Thanks, very helpful. $180 for that pair is doable, I think. Camelcamelcamel says the bookshelf ones you linked earlier were in stock last in June... Not sure if I want to bank on it being in stock anytime soon.

The receiver you linked before is out of stock... what do you think of this as a substitute? http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavre200/denon-avr-e200-5.1-channel-3d-home-theater-receiver/1.html

Also, opinion on this subwoofer instead of the Dayton? Does it depend on intended usage? http://smile.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Dynamo-300-Theater-Subwoofer/dp/B004LRPXAU?sa-no-redirect=1

So in all, I guess I'm looking at

Receiver $200

Center speaker $60

Sub $110

Floor speakers $180

TOTAL $350 + tax/shipping + receiver price

Would Micca MB42X speakers and MartinLogan Dynamo 300 sub be good to pair up with this receiver?

I just picked up the MartinLogan Dynamo 300 and I'm loving it. It has all the hookups you'd need.

Ok thanks. I'm gonna go with the Pioneer speakers. However I found this version here:

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS21-LR-80-Watts-2-Way-Speakers/dp/B004MEWZE4/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

They're 40 dollars and look exactly like what you suggested me. How are they different?

You might also look into the Pioneer BS-21LR. They are the predecessor to well reviewed BS-22LR. The BS-21LR were well liked in their own right. ~$50 because they have been discontinued.

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS21-LR-80-Watts-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B004MEWZE4

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882117405g

For a small, but nice setup I'd look for a nice pair of vintage bookshelf speakers or invest in a new pair of bookshelf speakers. Something like these Polks. Polks generally excel at mid range and high range definition. They would be very portable and not so bassy or large as to draw a lot of attention. Then, when you get space for a bigger system you could add a sub, some bigger fronts, and use these for rear surrounds. If that's too much money, Pioneer is my second goto for small, clear, cheap bookshelf speakers. They haven't changed what they do in decades, but they haven't needed to either! Good luck!

Awesome! That would be perfect. Thank you again for your help. It seems like I might not be able to get the Polk S20 speakers because the buyer isn't responding yet. So just in case, I think I found another really nice deal. All for just $200 he's selling...

Pioneer VSX-521-K
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-VSX-521-K-Receiver-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B004M8RPAY

Pair of Pioneer FS51 Floorstanding Speakers
https://www.amazon.com/pioneer-sp-fs51-lr-floorstanding-loudspeakers-discontinued/dp/b004h1m4no

Pair of Pioneer BS21 Bookshelf Speakers
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS21-LR-80-Watts-2-Way-Speakers/dp/B004MEWZE4

Pioneer SP-C21 Center-Channel Speaker
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-C21-Speaker-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B004MF4S0M/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

That also leaves me enough money to buy a subwoofer like the Dayton SUB-1200. But the receiver is a different model then the one you suggested. I'm not sure if it's still good. Would that be enough to drive all those speakers adequately?

In your opinion, do you think that would be a nice sounding setup for movies and music?

It's probably what you have driving them. Anyway, I have Pioneer SP-BS21-LR 80-Watts RMS 2-Way Speakers (Pair) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004MEWZE4/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_BDdLub1VH859Z powered by a Topping TP20-MK2 MKII TA2020 Class T-AMP Digital Stereo Amplifier https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00828UTE4/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_CLdLub12T0DB0. I love it.

If I were to stretch my budget a bit, would these be a better option?

And for making stands, are there any specific materials I should use/not use? Any good guides out there?

Thanks for this guide /u/ZeosPantera !

I do have a question however since I am having a hard time finding the answer. I am looking for a receiver that can handle 4k HDR passthrough as well as ARC with 5.1 channels. Is there anything you would reccomend from Sony? I am open to other brands, but am not trying to spend more than 300$ I have a xbr800d and a ps4 pro.

For speakers I have these pioneer bookshelf speakers and a polkaudio psw10 powered by this yamaha s201 receiver.

For the center channel, I was looking at this klipsch KC-25 . Currently my set up is in my bedroom which isnt too big, maybe a 10x15 foot room. I'll probably end up picking the surround speakers sometime later.

If you're looking to upgrade on the cheap, I'd recommend either of the Pioneer bookshelf speakers designed by Andrew Jones (the 80 watt version; the 130 watt version) or the floorstanding version of that line. I have the floorstanding version, and I must say that the sound is fantastic for around $200.

And the subwoofer. Yes. That would put you just under $500. Just so everything is in one place:

Receiver:
http://www.amazon.com/Harman-Kardon-HK-3490-Receiver/dp/B00198F89A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1344836198&sr=8-1&keywords=harmon+kardon+stereo+receiver

Speakers:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004MEWZE4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=A1DDN16L5L3LOG

Subwoofer:
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SW-8-Watt-Subwoofer-System/dp/B004MF2ZG6/ref=pd_bxgy_e_text_c

If I could do it all over again, this is probably the combo I'd choose.

Its either spend $120 now for crappy sound which you will probably replacr or slowly build a system that youll love for years.

Why not start off with a 2.0 system and purchase the others when you can enjoy it and have the $

Klipsch R-15PM vs AudioEngine A5+ for computer speakers, both are $399.

https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-15PM-Powered-Monitor-Black/dp/B01A7J534G/ref=pd_ybh_a_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=BE1JVCEAQWE7D5Z6JKDA

vs.

https://www.amazon.com/Audioengine-Active-2-Way-Speakers-Black/dp/B005OA3BSY/ref=pd_ybh_a_13?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=SEMGCA2V1JVB8P0RJSKJ

These are really really good: audio engine a5+ https://www.amazon.com/Audioengine-Active-2-Way-Speakers-Black/dp/B005OA3BSY

Also a cheaper option with a sub is the klipsch promedia 2.1: https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-ProMedia-Certified-Computer-Speaker/dp/B000062VUO

You didn't specify your budget, with of course is the nub of it all. Here are two options that I know sound great, both about $600 give or take. For affordable-yet-awesome with a small footprint I like the audioengine A5+ active speakers (=amplifer and speakers together). You could then add a schiit mani phono preamp and you're done. Or, if you want a stand alone amplifier and passive speakers, it's hard to go wrong with the very nice Emotiva TA-100; great sound, lots of connectivity with high quality phono preamp, at a reasonable price, and connect it to a pair of Elac Debut b6 speakers.

https://www.amazon.com/Audioengine-Active-2-Way-Speakers-Black/dp/B005OA3BSY

you won't need an amp for these, just plug in and play. they should definitely be loud enough, and sound great

The overnight sensation MTM will go down to about 50hz, but they're taller than normal bookshelf speakers, the advantage of them being a kit is they will sound like much more expensive speakers when done

If you want something comparable for low end with off the shelf assembled then the Audioengine A5+ monitors might work for you, they can probably do 55-60hz on the low end

Just keep in mind that neither of those are going to give you lots a bass that you can really feel in your chest, it's just not possible with something that small

You will thank me (and this is mostly my set up)

for passive speakers

http://www.amazon.com/Audioengine-N22-Premium-Desktop-Amplifier/dp/B0049OI08W/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1411009349&sr=1-10&keywords=audioengine

http://www.amazon.com/Audioengine-2-Way-Passive-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B002FJVTGI/ref=sr_1_11?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1411009349&sr=1-11&keywords=audioengine

450 total

for passive



http://www.amazon.com/Audioengine-Premium-Powered-Speaker-Black/dp/B005OA3BSY/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1411009349&sr=1-2&keywords=audioengine

400 bucks

http://www.amazon.com/Audioengine-A2-Premium-Powered-Speakers/dp/B00DQMJE7E/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1411009349&sr=1-1&keywords=audioengine

250


If you're looking for home theater inputs, I would forgo the stereo amp and look for a budget receiver for around 150-200 bucks.

Speakers

Audioengine A5 Plus Classic https://www.amazon.com/Audioengine-Active-2-Way-Speakers-Black/dp/B005OA3BSY/

Audioengine A5+ 150W Wireless with Bluetooth https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079T96GK8/

JBL 305P MkII https://www.amazon.com/JBL-Two-Way-Studio-Monitoring-Speakers/dp/B07BZ6QS6M/

Kanto YU6 https://www.amazon.com/Kanto-Powered-Speakers-Bluetooth-Preamp/dp/B01N31DTF5/

Subwoofers

Definitive Technology ProSub 800 https://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Technology-ProSub-Speaker-Single/dp/B000TDEM5C/

Outlaw Audio M8 http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/m8.html

DACs

TOPPING D10 Mini USB DAC https://www.amazon.com/TOPPING-es9018k2m-opa2134-Decoder-Amplifier/dp/B07B46KQVP/ This is just a DAC. Does not have a headphone amp.

DX3 Pro LDAC Version 2 DAC/amp https://www.amazon.com/DX3-Pro-Headphone-Amplifier-Bluetooth/dp/B07KG9P3X3/ Also available for the next few days as a group buy from drop.com for $180.

Need advice for a PC Setup
I’m a fan of great sounding music, but by no means would I consider myself an audiophile. I’m a bit out of the loop when it comes to making an informed decision about new gear to accompany a recent PC build I just put together. I have a budget of $500.00 but am willing to step that up to $1,000.00 if the improvement in sound quality is worth the extra money.

From what I’ve read, it looks like active monitors suit my needs best. I have found a set of KEF X300A for $550.00 which look pretty good to me and have been reviewed quite well; however it looks like I won’t be able to run a sub with them. I do listen to pretty bass heavy music but I live in a condo that requires I keep the thumping bass to a minimum. Do any of you have experience with the KEF X300A’s? Alternatives that look like they might also suit my needs are the Vanatoo T1’s and the Audioengine A5+ which both appear to be well reviewed and have outputs for a sub woofer.

Any help or product recommendations would be much appreciated.

My second question is in regards to speaker placement. I ‘m running a three monitor setup which makes speaker placement a bit awkward as two of the monitors are right in the ideal placement. Do any of you have experience with this issue? Again any recommendations would be appreciated.

Damn really? I was looking at these, Audioengine A5+

Official:
https://audioengineusa.com/shop/poweredspeakers/a5-plus-classic-speakers/


Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Audioengine-Active-2-Way-Speakers-Black/dp/B005OA3BSY


AudioEngine have a GREAT reputation. These are the A5+. This is of course just a suggestion but I have a pair for my office and they're wonderful bookshelf speakers.

You should know, that's a pretty nice turntable, everyone's financial situation is a little different, but I wouldn't cut corners on the speakers.

Snagged off Craigslist for $325 for the pair + $100 for the DAC. They're Audioengine A5+s.

They're the A5. The A2 are only 60w.

Link to A5 for the curious

I can find only fragments of the other thread you're referring to, but the TS-to-RCA cable is legit. It's not an adapter or coupler or anything like that. It certainly won't be the best connection option, but again, it works (it wouldn't damage the audio interface or the speaker), and it would cost far less than a pair of new monitors.

I looked at those speakers you have (or had). They're these? Those are more like bookshelf speakers, not active studio monitors. And $400 for the pair? You can do better than that for less money.

The JBL 305P monitors are another popular choice. They cost $150 each, and taxes/shipping could push the cost of the pair past your $300 budget. But both the Presonus and JBL monitors are fine choices.

I think these or the A2s.

https://www.amazon.com/Audioengine-Active-2-Way-Speakers-Black/dp/B005OA3BSY

If you want bookshelf audio, I have audio engine's for myself and some other people I buy for. They are great.

https://www.amazon.com/Audioengine-Active-2-Way-Speakers-Black/dp/B005OA3BSY

Fellow Panasonic plasma owner here.


You're gonna need a DAC (digital-to-analog converter) to change the digital signal from the TV (over the Toslink cable) into an analog audio signal over red and white RCA cables. The way I see it you have 2 options.




Powered Speaker Option - $428

• Fiio D3 DAC - $28
  
  Digital conversion is a pretty mature technology. You don't need to spend any more than this on a DAC.
  
  
  
• Audioengine A5+ $400
  
  
  If you don't want a receiver, these are the #1 most recommended and well-reviewed powered speaker pair around.
  
  
  Passive Speaker Option - $268
  
  
  
• Fiio D3 DAC - $28
  
  
  See above.
  
  
  
• Yamaha stereo receiver - $150
  
  
  Not a home theater receiver just two nice big amplifiers and some basic switching capability. You can control the volume with your cable box remote or buy a cheap Harmony universal remote they're really fantastic.
  
  
  
• Pioneer bookshelf speakers - $90
  
  
  One of the most highly recommended bookshelf speaker pairs to come around in a long time.

Sounds like you want Chromecast Audio plugged into some nice powered speakers, like these or these or these or these.
Edit: I'm not commenting on how well it'll work. I don't own a Chromecast. It just seems to work on paper for what you're asking.

After reading about motor hum issues I chose to go with the Pro ject Carbon Debut DC (with the acrylic platter upgrade), the ART DJ PreII preamp, and ordered these speakers (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005OA3BSY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1). Best of luck!

Looking to buy these speakers for myself soon

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B005OA3BSY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1MDP7AFOR891V&psc=1

I was just wondering would I need to buy a DAC? because I currently have the O2+SDAC from massdrop i use for my 6XX, would I be able to use the same dac if i need to? or can I just directly hook up the speakers to my PC as I do see a USB port ?

or if theres anything else I need buy

Okay, curious about your tips! I'm quite the noob to these custom setups so I have no experience with either.

What's a better suggestion for going by my feet under a PC desk (very up close field)? I don't need thundering bass, just want to backup where the Micca's can't quite finish the job and make my sound whole!

EDIT: Man, this Dayton 8" looks great and has great reviews. The description mentions an amplifier, I assume this has an amp built in too? Do all "powered" subwoofers have an amp, hence the powered? Thus, I can just use RCA's from my left and right RCA output of my audio card to the RCA line in option on the sub and it would be fine and dandy, the sub's built-in amp still works fine and everything that way?

Sorry for the noob questions guys, haha.

http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SUB-800-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0063NU30K

word on the street is these perform well above their price point. i was going to grab one when i was using those speakers.

If you can push the budget, I would highly recommend the SVS SB1000. Great range, really balanced, and has adjustments to blend into virtually any system seamlessly. I haven't tried any true budget subs, so I am of no use there. Considering others reviews, have you looked at the Dayton line of subs? They are very inexpensive and people seem to really enjoy them.

https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SUB-800-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0063NU30K

I'm having issues with my speakers/sub combo. I have the Presonus Eris 4.5 and recently bought Dayton Audio Sub 800. The sub is wired directly to my PC using an RCA cable and I bought Speaker Wire to RCA cables to connect the "High Level Output" from the sub to the speakers' "Input".

The wiring makes sense to me but I'm not getting any sound on my speakers. I'm getting sound on the sub though. Is my new sub messed up or is it something with the wiring? I have tried two different sets of speaker wire to RCA cables.

I would go with a simple 2.1 setup and run things through the laptop with Bluetooth or network connectivity.

SMSL SA50 50Wx2 TDA7492 Class D Amplifier

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A2QLGEQ/

Micca MB42X Bookshelf Speakers

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E7H8GG2/

Dayton Audio SUB-800 8-Inch 80 Watt Powered Subwoofer

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0063NU30K/


That comes out to $255 and is a solid set up that you can upgrade with a receiver or center channel and end up with a solid home theater.

For the money I think this is a solid beginner setup.

They're pretty cheap speakers. You don't have to be an audiophile to hear the difference between cheap computer speakers and proper home audio equipment.
Computer speakers may be all you can afford, as high quality speakers are usually over $100, but at the $200 price range, there are much better choices than computer brand speakers.

If you want simple plug-and-play speakers, these Audioengine A2s are pretty good.

If you want better sound at this price, you can go with a separate amp, speakers, and subwoofer. Dayton Audio is the most cost effective brand at this price point.
Speakers: Dayton Audio B652 ($51.99)
Subwoofer: Dayton Audio SUB-800 ($79.00)
Amplifier: Dayton Audio DTA-1 ($46.95)

This combo will blow away any multimedia speaker set, both in quality and simply how loud it can get. and at $177.94, it's $30 cheaper than the Corsair speakers.

If you're spending more than $100 on speakers, you'd be stupid to get computer/multimedia speakers.

Doesn't like you've gotten a lot of help so I'll toss a few suggests out there, although getting a decent Bluetooth 2.1 system under $200 is no easy task.

I'll start with the already suggested Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 Bluetooth. It's actually the one of these I've had the fortune of hearing personally. It's also the only that's a complete system in the box. It's not a bad system, but it does have a few drawbacks. First, the system is always in Bluetooth pairing mode. This has been a problem for people living in apartments who have pesky neighbors who connect to them and start playing music. Second, they do sound a little different than the original Klipsch ProMedia 2.1. I wouldn't say they are worse, but they don't have quite the charm in their sound signature that made the ProMedia so popular. Overall I would still the ProMedia 2.1 is a good system in box. But it really can't compete with a proper 2.1 system. By the way, Best Buy has run them on sale a few times now for $99.

On that note, I'll start trying to piece together a few more systems with separate speakers and subs. I'll start with suggesting the now discontinued PreSonus Ceres 3.5BT. They're pretty much the cheapest Bluetooth speakers I can find with a sub-out. They are running about $120 on Amazon right now. That leaves just enough to get this Monoprice sub. You'll also need a cable like this to connect the sub to the speakers. It's not a perfect system, but it's about the best I could piece together and keep it close to $200. I wish you could still get the larger Ceres 4.5BT for $120 but it appears to be sold out most places now. If you could jump up to either the this Monoprice sub or this Dayton one it would probably be worthwhile. You might also find open box stuff cheaper if you shop around.

Would be to get speakers without bluetooth or a subwoofer out like the Swan D1010 or Edifier R1280t. You could them get a sub like the Monoprice 9723 and a bluetooth adapter. You have to connect the bluetooth adapter to the sub and them feed the speakers from the sub. But the time you buy the speakers, sub, bluetooth adapters and cables you're going to be pushing the price into the range of better simpler systems.

There also a few 2.1 systems like the Edifier S350 that are little over budget but might be worth it. Unfortunately reviews on systems like these tend to be scarce.

Speakers

Subwoofer/amp combo

What do you think about this 8" which would basically fit? Good reviews:

Dayton 8” subwoofer https://smile.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SUB-800-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0063NU30K?sa-no-redirect=1

Dayton makes great subs in 12", 10" and 8" versions. I have the 8" (I think it's the 8"... I'll have to double check) and I love it.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0063NU30K/ref=psdc_172563_t3_B00669L3HS

The Dayton Sub 800 should has everyhting you would need and is very affordable. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0063NU30K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_Iq9bzbV755CDT

Thanks! If you don't mind, I do have a clarifying question:

Given how close I'll be sitting to the speakers, would the 8" 80 watt model of that subwoofer still be a decent option? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0063NU30K/ref=psdc_172568_t2_B0063NU3AA If/when we move, we're going to keep our shared space--my gaming space with his gaming/crafting/lounging space, so I'm not going to need something that can adapt to a larger area in the future.

It looks like the Mackie monitors already have mini to RCA cables in the box. My soundcard has a dedicated center/sub mini out, so I should be fine just getting an additional mini to RCA for the sub, shouldn't I?

And as an aside, for when I do multiplayer, my soundcard allows me to use the front jack on my computer as a separate audio output--I've just tested that out with some spare headphones and looks like I won't have to give up that split. Right now I run audio to the TV via HDMI and have my headset in one of the mini jacks in back.

I listen to lots of jazz and classical music, but I also like bass heavy electronic music and house music.

I think my current plan is to save up for this subwoofer.

Dayton Audio Sub-800, not too over powering and great with music. Go out from Yamaha to sub then sub to KEF’s with speaker cables.

Dayton Audio SUB-800 8-Inch 80 Watt Powered Subwoofer (Black) http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0063NU30K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_i_IUL9AbJGQEQD7

$99.00 btw (ie ridiculous value)

Here's a couple things.

I also have a Pioneer SW-8M sub that I ghetto-rigged with an Parts Express amp after the original one stopped working. (You can have it for free if you buy the other stuff.)

I also have a couple Monitors one 24" and one 25" ultra-wide. And a couple coffee machines, one single serve and one combo. An Alienware Alpha. Some other random stuff. (I recently moved to a smaller place and need to make some room.)

Quick update. Speakers are all set, and they sound pretty good. I'm not an expert, and have nothing to compare them to, but I'd say that I got a good deal for $120. Dialogue in movies is nice and crisp, and the mids are quite nice too. I'm very pleased with my first foray into home theater.

Most definitely not returning them!

Thanks again for your help. I'm now looking for a decent sub and a center.

What are your thoughts on the Panasonics Pioneers?

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-C22-Designed-Channel-Speaker/dp/B008NCD2EI/

and for the sub
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SW-8MK2-Designed-100-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B008NCD2PC/

Edit: Pioneer, not Panasonic

You could go with this Pioneer sub, or see this list. In that case, perhaps consider 2 pairs of those BS22 bookshelf speakers and a center, instead of the Fluance set mentioned before. Just need some speaker stands though.

Hi, first time poster here. I'm about to pull the trigger on my first turntable setup, but I feel I need to check in with the helpful people on this sub with the equipment I'm thinking of buying and whether or not its all compatible. Other things like isolation pads for the speakers, better record sleeves, a cork matt, a record brush, gram scale, and a cleaning kit are accounted for. Are any of those things unnecessary?

The following is strictly the hardware. I've been torn between two different set-ups however.

SET-UP 1: Audio Technica AT-LP120 ($299) & the Micca PB42X Powered Bookshelf Speakers ($120). TOTAL: About $419

SET-UP 2: Audio Technica AT-LP120 ($299), Micca MB42 Passive Speakers ($60), and the Yamaha R-S201BL 2-Channel Stereo Receiver ($130) TOTAL: About $489

I'm also unsure about adding a subwoofer for I don't know if one is essential or just a nice thing to include for the complete package. My eye is on this one: Pioneer SW-8MK2 100-Watt Powered Subwoofer ($160)

Any and all advice is much appreciated.

Thanks for the vote of confidence!

I think I've changed my mind to a Pioneer sub, for some reason it being designed by the same person as the speakers just makes sense to me, and I want the additional control. http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SW-8MK2-Designed-100-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B008NCD2PC/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

As far as wiring, I believe I'll need a RCA y-splitter cable/adapter for the sub (male to male) to go from the amp's sub output to the sub's left and right "Line In". Then I need two (pairs?) of RCA's for the speakers.

The USB is included w/ the amp I believe. Any reason to use a different output from my PC? I'm using optical output from my PC on my headphone amp at the moment, but of course there is the basic stereo jack, etc.

Sound about right?

I live in an apartment building and have a 2.1 system with bookshelf speakers and an 8" sub (I could go bigger but my place is pretty small, I literally don't have room) and have never once gotten a complaint in my current apartment. The only thing that would generate a complaint is a subwoofer, and if you don't have complaints about the subwoofer your soundbar came with, you won't have complaints about this subwoofer.

Just because you have good speakers doesn't mean you have to blast them. Even at regular volume, the clarity and tonality will be light-years ahead of a soundbar, at likely the same price. My TV setup is my secondary audio setup, and I got the speaker and subs together for just over $200 thanks to waiting for sales. Including stands, cables, and the receiver, the whole setup was under $500. And you could go used on the AV receiver or use a stereo receiver instead to save money.

EDIT: I'm not trying to diss you. To each his own. Just saying that you could have done better for the price.

Pioneer SP-BS22-LR Andrew Jones Designed Bookshelf Loudspeakers https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B008NCD2LG/

x2

Pioneer SP-FS52-LR Andrew Jones Designed Floor standing Loudspeaker (each) https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B008NCD2S4/

x2

Pioneer SP-C22 Andrew Jones Designed Center Channel Speaker https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B008NCD2EI/

Pioneer SW-8MK2 Andrew Jones Designed 100-Watt Powered Subwoofer https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B008NCD2PC/

Onkyo TX-SR343 5.1-Channel A/V Receiver https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00WSED53A/

• 100 ft. of speaker cable
  
  
• 2 metal/black rear speaker stands
  
  
• HDMI cables

I posted this elsewhere and am just gathering thoughts as to whether or not I should pull the trigger or pass, as I am new to the audio world. I can get this setup for $115, and it would be used as an entry level 3.1 home theatre setup. It is used in good condition.

Pioneer SP-BS22-LR (pair) https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG

Pioneer SP-C22 https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-C22-Designed-Channel-Speaker/dp/B008NCD2EI

Pioneer SW-8MK2 https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SW-8MK2-Designed-100-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B008NCD2PC

It would also include this receiver: Yamaha HTR-3066 https://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio_visual/av_receivers_amps/htr-3066/index.html

Jump or pass? Thanks!

Would this sub be a good purchase?

Subwoofer

If it's not, I'll just get the Dayton Sub 800 for $100.

I didn't think it was possible to add in a sub without the receiver or at least an amp that has the connections.

Is it possible to do it with this setup, I assume I need another cable.

• Samsung JS8500 -> Aux Cable -> Lepai
  
• Lepai LP-2020A+
  
• Pioneer SP-FS52-LR
  
• Pioneer SW-8MK2
  
  I bought all the speakers as I found them for 50% off at a local store (Brandsmart) and couldn't pass up the deal. The bookshelf, center, sub are in boxes till I buy a receiver but if I can make use of the subwoofer for now that would be great. Also the Lepai was $20 in Prime Now, and it will be moved to the bedroom later on.
  
  

I'm looking for a small subwoofer (10" or less) to go with my PC setup. I've had a good experience with Audioengine's products so far, so I'm naturally eyeing their S8 8" subwoofer, but I'd like to hear opinions of that sub and some alternative recommendations if possible.

Here's my current audio chain: PC USB -> Fiio E10K DAC -> Audioengine N22 desktop amplifier -> Audioengine P4 bookshelf speakers. The room is roughly 12'x10', but I'll be sitting within a few feet of the sub since it will be placed under my desk.

Thanks in advance for your help!

*Oops! Forgot to include that my budget is <$400, preferably <$300.

Edit: It looks like I can get Pioneer's Andrew Jones-designed 8" subwoofer for $100 plus tax. That value seems tough to beat. Anybody have experience with this sub?

Nope, usually for a pair of box monitors like these you buy everything separate so you can can build anywhere from 2.1 - 9.1 depending on what type of a setup you want to achieve.

Here is a link to the speakers: https://www.amazon.com/JBL-LSR305-Professional-Studio-Monitor/dp/B00F1DEI8G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486180820&sr=8-1&keywords=jbl+lsr305

My subwoofer is pretty small which is good for a small room or if you're in an apartment: https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SW-8MK2-Designed-100-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B008NCD2PC/ref=sr_1_8?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1486180977&sr=1-8&keywords=subwoofer#customerReviews

All together the sound it produces is worth it to me, but it's a bit pricey.

/r/audiophile is mostly into objective standards, and I've built plenty of systems that are better for less.

For 2.1 you can have this Bose system, or you can have and Andrew Jones designed system by getting 2x these and one of these

5.1 you say? You can have these Bose or these Andrew Jones for a fraction the cost.

The Andrew Jones include sizeable drivers, comes with real speaker parts made for actual low distortion like crossovers, sizable drivers, and properly designed tweeters. For an entry level setup they already dominate the Bose up and down.

They also have bookshelves if the towers are too much, there's also options like the Micca MB42x too which you could pair with a sub if space is a bit concern (though back firing ports means they will need space from the wall.

>I will continue to buy Bose products, and will continue to mentally tell those people to fuck off.

Fuck you too presumptuous prick.

Reciever: https://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-S540BT-Bluetooth-Compatible-Streaming/dp/B07C49F2LD/

Subwoofer:https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SW-8MKS-powered-subwoofer-theater/dp/B008NCD2PC

Speakers: https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG/

Ah, missed your question.

I have this pioneer subwoofer:

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SW-8MK2-Designed-100-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B008NCD2PC/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1450720133&sr=1-3&keywords=pioneer+subwoofer

Speakers: $100/pair

Subwoofer: $130

Receiver: $150

Plus a few bucks for speaker wire and a cable to connect your device.

Sure, your current receiver works, at least for now. But it does not have sub out so we are in trouble before we even started. Temporary solution is to buy y-splitter adapter or cable amazon search

I'm using amazon just to show the products, it's not an endorsement. 5.1 at 300€ will be garbage, that is just about enough for just 2 new speakers to be honest. Things change in the used markets but the sad fact there too is that good speakers don't drop in prices that much. Those Andrew Jones speakers are VERY good for their price; they are designed to be top notch, expensive speakers, then they are carefully designed and sourced so that it will be cheap to make them. They are a benchmark for anyone on that price range.

Here's the speakers (found in google by using "andwer jones speakers", including the typo so dude, did you even try? :) )

bookshelfs

the sub

I need help...(scroll down for TL:DR) My turntable needs to get louder and have more low end. My receiver is usually blaring when gaming or watching TV at "-10 db" however when I play my turn table at the same setting it is quieter. Not silent or really low mind you, but not quite as loud. When I turn up my receiver higher to compensate it will eventually go into protection mode and turn itself off (no bueno, I know).

Here is my setup:

Turntable: Technics SL-1300
Cartridge: Shure M97xE
Receiver: Denon AVR-391
Pre-Amp: Behringer PP400

Speakers:

Front Bookshelf Speakers: Panasonic SP-BS22-LR
Rear Speakers: Polk TL1
Center Speaker: Polk TL1 Center
Woofer: Pioneer SW-8MK


So, as you can see, for speakers I have a 5.1 speaker set up. I can run my turntable in Pro Logic, Multi-Channel Stereo, Stereo, Direct (whatever that means), Virtual, and DTS Neo. I am not really sure what would be best but I would like to use a setting that also uses my subwoofer as it is it's own powered speaker. Is that ok for the receiver to split it into Pro Logic or something else from the analog signal or not? As far as my connection I have the RCA cord coming from my pre-amp and connected to my "Dock" RCA input which is 1 of 3 RCA inputs on my receiver (Dock, Sat, DVD). Also my turntable is grounded to my preamp.

I am at a loss of what to do as it's never quite loud enough for my liking. I don't need it to be breaking windows but I would like to be able to rock out once and awhile.


TL:DR I guess what I'm asking is what setting should my Receiver be on and would a new pre-amp increase my volume?

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B008NCD2LG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B008NCD2PC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Through:

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https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01ITB23YC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I've seen a lot of rave reviews about this subwoofer as well. Is the one that the OP linked superior?

For amplifiers in the $300 range you have a few really decent options.

2 channel?

Emotiva mini-X a-100 for $219
https://emotiva.com/products/amplifiers/mini-x-100
+
Schitt SYS Passive Preamp for $49
http://schiit.com/products/sys-passive-preamp

Or my preferred option due to inputs and subwoofer out
Yamaha S300BL Receiver
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-R-S300BL-Stereo-Receiver-Black/dp/B0044779H2

It even has a phono in if you get the crazy vinyl madness going around.

Ok, what about multi-channel on a budget ?

Denon AVR-E300 5.1
http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-E300-Channel-Networking-Receiver/dp/B00B7X2OV2

It is all multi-channel goodness and it has airplay and all that niceness. Plus it has a nice back panel that is simple as hell. Two RCA inputs, one optical, one coax plus a ton of hdmi connects and that is all except for the speaker connects and subwoofer out. hmmmm... yummy simple stuff for a usually complicated world. Does it have features that you will not use? Sure. Should it distract from quality? I really doubt it.

Funny it seems the Heresy even old ones for music if paired with a good subwoofer should outperform for sound the Infinity speakers but then again old Klipsch speakers especially for modern music is a real love em or leave em kind of sound.

http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-E300-Channel-Networking-Receiver/dp/B00B7X2OV2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1395515318&sr=8-1&keywords=denon+avr+300

as for the avr, i've used yamaha's in the past but much prefer denon. this is their equivalent receiver. i've just found denons easier to use. better remote, easier to set up, etc...

So after a good nights worth of research I've landed on some towers, subs and a receiver and I'd like some feedback:

Towers
Polk 75T (pair)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882290272

vs.

Klipsch F-30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882780026

Receiver

Denon AVR E300
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B7X2OV2

Subwoofer (optional?)

Klipsch 12HG Synergy Series
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003VIWK0G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER


Would I be better off taking the Klipsch towers and losing the sub? Should I go 3.1 over 2.1 -- Will it make that much of a difference?

Zeos! I LOVE this subreddit and have just bought a house with a new dedicated theater room! I am very excited and would really appreciate it if you could look over my build and give me any suggestions. The price is somewhat flexible so if there is something that you think would really help me then please don't hesitate to ask.

Epson 8350------------------------------------------------------------1100
SMSL SA50 Amp--------------------------------------------------------70
Speakers-----------------------------------------------------------------250
Screen------------------------------------------------------------------236
Receiver-----------------------------------------------------------------250
BIC America F12 Subwoofer-------------------------------------------184
Total--------------------------------------------------------------------2090

Some of the prices may have changed but it should be fairly close... So how would you improve on this build?

Thanks so much!!

Edit: Formatting

I have been putting together a 5.1 system, and was wondering if you would be able to take a look at it! Maybe something you would recommend other than what is here. This set up is a little more than I wanted to spend, but from what I have read about each piece, it seems to be worth it. Any advice is appreciated!


Denon S500BT


BIC America F12


Micca MB42X Center


Micca MB42X BookShelf


Fluance AVBP2 Surround


A few questions I have:

• Are the Fluance dedicated rear speakers worth the extra 50 bucks over 4 of the Micca bookshelf speakers?
  
  
• Is the Micca center speaker a recommended speaker? I didn't see it listed in the OP, but I found it while searching through amazon, and figured that matching the front two speakers was a good idea.
  
  
• I was also looking into the Denon E300, but I don't see any advantages over the S500BT - any advice?
  
  
• What other things will I need to complete this system? Some speaker cable for sure, do I need a sub cord or any banana plugs? It doesn't look the S500 uses plugs, but I figured I would ask.

Romanion thnx a mil, i found an awesome guide on building a custom home theater system, much easier than i first tought it would be.

Anyway i decided for:

receiver: Denon AVR-E300 - http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-E300-Channel-Networking-Receiver/dp/B00B7X2OV2

Subwoofer: BIC AMERICA F12 - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015A8Y5M/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B0015A8Y5M&linkCode=as2&tag=wwwpuresimula-20


speakers front/rear: Micca MB42X
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E7H8GG2/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00E7H8GG2&linkCode=as2&tag=wwwpuresimula-20

center : Micca MB42X-C
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HHFBEK6/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?
ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00HHFBEK6&linkCode=as2&tag=wwwpuresimula-20&linkId=ADIW5VIJE4AGEDOK


Does anyone knows best places where i can buy those in EU? I googled for the receiver the past hour with no luck

PS: suggestions of how to make the text more readable in reddit are also welcomed :)

I'm looking for a home theater system for around $500, though my currently proposal is going to cost closer to $700, which is about as much as I'm willing to spend. One of my main restrictions is that I can't have a subwoofer, since I'm in an apartment, and I've already gotten a complaint from a neighbor, so I'm trying to keep the super low bass down. As a result, I'm probably looking for something with tower speakers, which will provide some low end without (hopefully) disturbing the neighbors. I'm primarily using this for movies and videogames, but some music. What I've come up with so far is:

http://fluance.com/product/SXHTB_BK_5_Speaker_Surround_Sound_Home_Theater_System_black.eng-91.html

which seems to have gotten good reviews and powering it with

http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-E300-Channel-Networking-Receiver/dp/B00B7X2OV2/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1412898550&sr=1-1&keywords=denon+e300

I'd also be willing to just buy 2 tower speakers with my receiver if that would make more sense. Let me know if that sounds reasonable or if any of you have any better suggestions for that price range. Thanks a lot.

Went back and upgraded to this Receiver

What are your thoughts on the new series of Denon receivers for 2013? I was looking at a Denon 1613 for $329, but stumbled across the Denon E300 (which is, according to what I can find, the replacement unit for the 1613) for $399. For factory refurbs from A4L the price difference looks to be about $249 to $215

The main differences appear to be increased wattage per channel and a more updated suite of web functionality (smartphone remote apps, Spotify, etc). Despite this, neither unit has wireless internet connectivity out of the box. Whether it would end up costing an extra $70 or possibly $35, is the 'updated' variant worth the extra money in this case?

I bought this guy http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B7X2OV2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1 along with the speaker set after seeing the post this morning

I have a small college apartment and am hoping to buy a starter system for no more than $300. I have an AirPort express as well as plenty of Apple products to make good use of the AirPlay.

I don't need anything fancy as long as it works, as I don't think its a big challenge to fill an apartment as small as mine with decently loud tunes. That being said the cheapest combination of speakers, receiver and subwoofer you have listed would already be over my budget. Can I survive without the woofer?

EDIT: I should have looked around this subreddit more, I am reading more in your thread about building a 2.0 into a 5.1

EDIT 2: I have further assessed the situation. You recommend this receiver as the starting point, however given my budget is a bit smaller, would this one work as well? I would then get the suggested Micca MB42X bookshelfs unless you think these ones might be better (I've seen them on sale for cheaper than the Micca so I'd just wait for the opportune moment). I'm definitely a beginner in the audiophile department, so I'm not sure how many different inputs I need, but I would be trying to connect this to the TV + cable box, 2 consoles, and the airport express.

Ok, so $200 is obviously not going to happen. I'll have to open up my wallet a bit. This post links to this receiver which unless I'm wrong will let me hook up everything including my record player, yes?

This unit does not come with speakers, which are obviously extra. If I'm ok with putting out the extra dough for this receiver, could you recommend some economical speakers?

So considering that for the same price of these https://www.amazon.com/Fluance-SX6-BK-Definition-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers-Black/dp/B00IEDL8EM/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=Fluance+sx6&qid=1563132722&s=gateway&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1

I could get the Klipsch
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/klipsch-reference-series-5-1-4-340-watt-passive-2-way-bookshelf-speakers-pair-black/6241808.p?skuId=6241808

I don't think I'll be picking up the center for a bit and when I do I won't mind picking up the klipsch center even if its $100 more than the fluance. Are the Klipsch a better buy overall? Also, can my receiver power them?

Fluance SX-6 Black Edition. Got them on sale when they first came out as no one knew about them I guess. Love'em.

Okay so I think I’ve got a good setup pre planned!

Dayton Audio B652-AIR 6-1/2" 2-Way Bookshelf Speaker with AMT Tweeter Pair https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NOA58RS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_WVIyCbYFCB1PM

Dayton Audio SUB-1000 10-Inch 100 Watt Powered Subwoofer (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0063NU3AA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_

Dayton Audio MK442 Dual 4" 2-Way Center Channel Speaker https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BVVNVXT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_vWIyCb0Q5DY0B

Dayton Audio B652-AIR 6-1/2" 2-Way Bookshelf Speaker with AMT Tweeter Pair https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NOA58RS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_mBhQBbJ8EEXH0

2018 Lastest Nobsound HiFi 100W TPA3116 Mini Bluetooth 4.0 Digital Amplifier Amp Home Audio With Power Supply FREE SHIPPING
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/9fBSCHi

Good point , thanks mate - exactly what I needed.

I can't get the Miccas, no. Dayton are available yeah - These are the suckers I'm wanting, right? Or would you recommend something else? Is there a !thanks type system on this sub?

Just a set of B452-AIR each for the kitchen, 2 bedrooms, office, and maybe an additional subwoofer for the deck. I may not be getting these exact speakers but they're a good example. These additional speakers will happen over time once I have my quality system set up in the living room.
I'd just like to have all my music in one spot while also being able to play it anywhere in the house without dealing with a bunch of speakers that require batteries. Running wires won't be an issue.

[$180] Any type of table, amp and speakers for a beginner. [North Carolina, USA]

I'm getting into vinyl, and I just need a little help.

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/ele/5895901944.html

Does this seem like a good deal for 60$? Especially since I don't want to fork out too much money to decide if I want to get into this hobby or not. Also, I can't seem to find if it comes with a pre-amp built in, or if I need to purchase on separately? He's sent me video and confirmed it works.

Also, here's some of the equipment I was considering (maybe not at this price, but the general model/brand).

https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-B652-AIR-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B00NOA58RS/

https://www.amazon.com/Lepy-LP-2024A-Amplifier-Stereo-Supply/dp/B00ULRFQ1A/

Thanks again.

My dad wants to set up the following pieces:

• Amp: Yamaha RX-V379BL 5.1-Channel A/V Receiver with Bluetooth
  
• Speakers: Dayton Audio B652-AIR 6-1/2" Bookshelf Speaker Pair with AMT Tweeter
  
• Subwoofer: Polk Audio PSW10 10-Inch
  
  Neither of us knows this stuff really well...Will these work well together? We're upgrading from a Panasonic SA-AK33 stereo, which he'll keep and try to plug it to the rest to be able to play CDs and tapes.

Alright I had a build all ready for you but decided I want to discuss some things out further

Is response time the most important thing to you about monitors? Because if you relax your limit to say 4/5 ms you can get an IPS panel which will give you much nicer colors and generally look better.

Do you want the monitors to match or do you care if they are different? Is there a size you want?

As for speakers, you can buy the standard computer speakers and they will emit sound, but as you will be using this for movies as well I recommend you go the amp/bookshelf route.

I'd get This Amp and These Speakers

Now you either can do sound over HDMI to the monitors, and then a simple Head-Phone to RCA and this would work for both the Xbox and the computer OR you pick up Optical to analog converter and then just run them straight into the amp. You'd have to get a splitter as it only has 1 input

I know this is more complicated and you're probably thinking (Fuck this I should just get all in one speakers) But I promise this will sound A LOT better


As for the build its going to look something like this

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor | $174.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H-A Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard | $60.88 @ OutletPC
Memory | Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $27.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $84.88 @ OutletPC
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $49.98 @ OutletPC
Video Card | XFX Radeon R9 380 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card | $169.99 @ Newegg
Case | Fractal Design Core 1500 MicroATX Mini Tower Case | $58.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply | SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $55.99 @ SuperBiiz
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $703.69
| Mail-in rebates | -$20.00
| Total | $683.69
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-04 13:44 EST-0500 |

The [Dayton B625 AIR](Dayton Audio B652-AIR 6-1/2" Bookshelf Speaker Pair with AMT Tweeter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NOA58RS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_jVEnybNDHRJZ4)s are really good for the money.

You don't need big speakers. A lot like to show off big floorstanding speakers that are honestly overkill for the majority of folks. Look at some bookshelf speakers and a center channel.

If you have room for a soundbar in front of your TV, you have room for 2 bookshelf speakers or 2 bookshelves and a center.

Seriously, these are $50 ($60 with shipping but that can depend on your location) and will sound WAY better than any medium or high end sound bar when paired with a decent sub. For $200 total, the price of a "competent" (used loosely) soundbar, you can get much better sound quality while taking up barely more space.

If you want something you can add to later, honestly, Id go with something that needs a receiver. Ive herad really good things about these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NOA58RS/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A385A0XNQBW8HY

Youll have to drop about a hundred dollars on a receiver but honestly, thats not much mroe in total than the edifiers. And, when you want to open up that bass, youll be able to add a sub. I cant personally speak to those speakers, but they look solid, and a 6.5" driver is fucking monster in a pair of bookshelves. That said, I wouldnt be surprised if the mids were muddy in those. The ribbon tweeter combined with such a large driver, I would think the bass and the highs would be super clean but the mids might be lacking. I think theres a 4.5" version of that same speaker. If you intend to buy a sub in the future, taht might be your goldilocks version.

All the best, though. Good luck.

Having a Sony TV has zero impact on whether you get Sony speakers.

For Pioneer, the left, right, and center speakers combine will cost you $192:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008NCD2EI/

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008NCD2LG/

For Sony, the left, right, and center speakers combine will cost you $296:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O8YLNRS/

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O8YLMVA/

For reference, if you wanted the floor standing options for either it will be an extra $100-150 in either case.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O8YLL8E/

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0798YNCQ1/

I will assume you will go with bookshelf speakers for now and the Sonys. That means that your AVR, speaker cable, left, right, and center channels combined come to about $500.

That leaves about $500 for a subwoofer. That is a nice chunk of change for a really nice subwoofer.

First, are you certain you want a premium subwoofer like that? Second, are you concerned that you may disturb your neighbors in an apartment building with a subwoofer?

Personally, I would save my money and get the BIC America F12. It is an absolutely excellent subwoofer for $200 and is likely already overkill for your needs:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015A8Y5M/

I’ve had very good luck with that Sony receiver as well. I would add that I’ve enjoyed these Sony bookshelf speakers which we’re on sale for less than $100 just a few weeks ago.

What is the exact name of the sony speakers? Would they be THESE right here?

So these? Can you tell me a little about the wattage and how it works with the receiver? If I wanted a larger speaker (like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07147TBD5/ref=sspa_dk_detail_4?psc=1) how would I know if its compatible with the receiver? I know the cabling would work but how can I ensure the receiver is able to power it? Just by looking at the wattage between the two?

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-SSCS5-3-Driver-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B00O8YLMVA

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-SSCS8-3-Driver-Channel-Speaker/dp/B00O8YLNRS/ref=pd_bxgy_23_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=8027ED8V7NDZ2CRQV4RQ

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-SACS9-10-Inch-Active-Subwoofer/dp/B00O8YLIY6/ref=pd_bxgy_23_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=8027ED8V7NDZ2CRQV4RQ

Polk S15s are not studio monitors and are passive. OP listed them with the SMSL amp to power them. The S15s are regularly recommended on here and are excellent. They're even listed in the sidebar recommendations put together by AudioPhileJoe or whoever he is. In his review he likes them better than the ELAC B5 and Klipsch.

So, OP. For 160/pair they're great. But you can also grab the Sony's for 73USD right now https://www.amazon.com/Sony-SSCS5-3-Driver-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B00O8YLMVA/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=Sony+bookshelf&qid=1563975540&s=gateway&sr=8-6

But I'd go with the S15s if you don't have or plan on getting a subwoofer. The Sony's won't have the low end like the S15

S15s + used receiver/amp is a great combo.

The sony are in $73
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O8YLMVA

So I'm upgrading from my ghetto budget audiophile build, Dayton B-somethings and Behringer U-Control Uca202 as my dac. Amp is something I got in a bundle from parts express with the speakers. Basically the build I learned from /u/zeospantera a few years ago.

My budget is $300.

My use case is only as desktop speakers for my gaming PC. Since I will have them less than 3 feet away, loudness is not a requirement for me.

I need a clear distinct soundstage where I can tell instruments apart.

I'll use them for listening to classical/orchestra, synthwave/retrowave and rock/metal.

Clear, reference highs are more important to me than brightness or thicc bass.

So this is my planned build.

This will be my source and amp, an SMSL Q5 pro.

It will power these passive bookshelf speakers, the Sony SSCS5 3-Ways.

These go to 3(ways).

As always anyone is feel free to tell me why my choice is obviously wrong.

And I hope /u/zeospantera can enlighten me to the true Patrician Choice.

get these - https://www.amazon.com/Sony-SSCS5-3-Driver-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B00O8YLMVA

they were $75 a few days ago and will drop again. Far better than the Dayton's

Sony core series has been 50% off recently. Not as nice as Elac, but for $150 ain't bad.

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-SSCS5-3-Driver-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B00O8YLMVA

The amazon link for the speakers and the sub I’m looking to get is https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O8YLMVA?ref=emc_p_m_5_mob_t&th=1&psc=1

They're $399 now, prices don't last long these days. xD

https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Uni-fi-Bookshelf-Speaker-Black/dp/B01CRYWVG2

ELAC Uni-fi UB5 Bookshelf Speaker (Black, Pair) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CRYWVG2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_LoDTAbFEFAR5H

Hey all! Im investing in my first real pair of speakers to be used for a 70/30 split between movies/music. Ive narrowed my choices down to 3 speakers. I live in a small apartment so being able to perform at loud volume isn't a priority, but clarity at low volume would be very nice. Current budget for a pair would ideally be at or under 700$, but willing to go much higher if they will last me for a long time. Any comments are welcome!

• ELAC Uni-fi UB5
  
• SVS Ultra Bookshelf
  
• KEF Q350
  
  

I was looking at theses.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CRYWVG2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

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I assume they are referring to watts. Where something like this is 70 watts.

is the micca RB42S too scarce now to be a viable option?

I should've jumped on the Edifier R1850DB when they were $140 the other day, they seem to fit most as a PC desktop speaker

also this sounds dumb but one of my top criteria is how much of a deal I'm getting with the purchase. so those elac b6.2 may be the best of the bunch but their normal price point is $240 so at the current price of $220 i don't feel like they're worth purchasing yet, especially since their lowest price was $150 on december 2018

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i wonder if im better off getting active bookshelf speakers and a sub for what im looking for.

like these https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073W1R4XQ/ref=sspa_dk_detail_6?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B073W1R4XQ&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExWFlDS1kwN0dONTFUJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNTc3NDcwMjJVQ1QyRURMUkVFSCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNjEwODE4MzhKRFI5UEVJSVNHWCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2RldGFpbCZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=#customerReviews

with a decent sub.

im looking more for music purposes than tv viewer purpose. i dont want surround sound. so after reading some since my L/R speakers will only be about 7 feet apart and center is mostly for viewing experiences, i think a 2.1 system will do just fine. i dont plan on having multiple input sources so i just need audio running from tv to speakers.

any one here have experience with these?

thanks

I see. What other difference is there between the Dayton towers and these Edifier bookshelf speakers?

https://www.amazon.ca/Edifier-R1850DB-Bookshelf-Speakers-Bluetooth/dp/B073W1R4XQ/

https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1850DB-Bookshelf-Speakers-Bluetooth/dp/B073W1R4XQ

I own r1850db great for small room, you will need subwoofer if in medium or large room, great sound and that comes under 200usd
Edifier r1850db has a sub out incase you need more bass, these won't disappoint you!!!

Don't get any "PC" or "gaming" related speakers. A good pair of active bookshelf speakers will be much better than a low tier 5.1 system.

Something like this

Idk what your budget is though.

Edifier make very nice sub $200 bookshelf speakers with remotes, wired and bluetooth connections.

https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1700BT-Bluetooth-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B016PATXSI

https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1850DB-Bookshelf-Speakers-Bluetooth/dp/B073W1R4XQ

I've got the R1850DB myself, great sound quality for the price.

I'm still considering to the getting a Home Max for another room though.

The lack of a 3.5mm output on the Google Home range is really annoying.

coupon right on the product page : https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073W1R4XQ

Hello.

I have some questions regarding purchasing of speakers. This will be used for a TV and computer setup, I want to be able to switch between at least 3 inputs Computer, TV, Bluetooth (for phone)

I'm looking for a good set I want a hard-cap of about $400-500 (everything together) but if it's not to much more I might make some more exception

But generally aiming for the $200-250 range (At least on speakers alone), I looked at the recommended speaker sets in the post and I would like something more in-line with the $100 set but better quality.

I'm generally looking for a 2, 2.1 speaker setup (As I have a set of Logitech z506 5.1, but want better sound, not sure if I should go 2.1 or stick with 5.1) but this will be in my bed room as well

I was following this guide Which I found a couple months back but haven't bought anything yet (New PC build first then audio setup) and I liked the look of these speakers the best. but also thinking of possible wall mounting them as well, but I want to wait and see until everything is ordered and setup where Id like them to be.

Would this be a good guide to follow, or is there stuff you would change to make it a bit better, or just overall better, any ideas/recommendations for ease of convenience onto me? (I do want to have a clean setup so I'd prefer to have a slightly longer cable then a short cable.

I'm 95% set on those Fluance Signatures you recommended. '95%' as in I haven't gotten around to purchasing them yet. And I probably will throw in a Dayton 1200 sub once I get my tax return. I'll run the L/R through the sub, to the Fluance. Whatcha think?

I've been listening with headphones since I've gotten my turntable and I decided I'd like to get some speakers for it as well. I've got a Fluance turntable as well as a Little Dot Mk2 headphone amp. I've been considering getting these speakers. I don't really know what I'm doing, but I'm assuming I'm going to need another amp for the speakers? Any suggestions on a mid priced amp, or will the Mk2 work for speakers as well? Will those speakers work fine with my turntable? Any help is appreciated!

Fronts -
Ultra Bookshelf Speaker

Center - Ultra Center Speaker

Rears - Fluance Signature Series

Subwoofer - Rythmik FVX15

Does this sound good?

I guess i should of said this along time ago, i plan on moving in about 1-2 years to a bigger house

I see lots of commenters recommending high-end stuff which is understandable since you are building your own house and having a large dedicated space for a banging HT. A good 7 channel receiver plus a subwoofer powerful enough for your large room will add up to $1000 pretty quick. Heck, I'd reccomend two subwoofers for a space that large. I will probably get downvoted, but let me help you find some more budget friendly choices.

Receiver $300 - DENON
AVR-X1400H

Subwoofer $300 - Bic Acoustech PL-200 II

Front LR $200 - Fluance Signature Series

* Matching Center - $150

Surround and Rear Surrounds - Micca MB42X 2x$80

This puts you just slightly over budget. also factor in speaker mounts / shelves / stands, cables, etc.... There's obviously lots of options and everyone has their own opinions. Have fun researching, I hope this helps!

All the same stuff, yep! The speakers are Fluance Signature bookshelf speakers. No idea why I have the dust covers on since I almost never use them, but in this photo they made the cut

(https://www.amazon.com/Fluance-Signature-Bookshelf-Surround-HFS/dp/B01A5UB4JU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1501346829&sr=8-1&keywords=fluance+signature).

Can this amp Teac AI-101DA drive these
Fluance Signature Series for desk near field listning?

yes but after some running around and not finding any in stock locally i'm ordering online and am now trying to decide between

https://www.amazon.ca/Signature-Bookshelf-Surround-Speakers-HFS/dp/B01A5UB4JU/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1521302277&sr=8-7&keywords=fluance&dpID=51uK8zZE4vL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

and

https://www.amazon.ca/Fluance-Performance-Bookshelf-Surround-Speakers/dp/B01JAJ2QXU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1521302344&sr=1-1&keywords=Fluance+XL7SBK

sorry for the confusion