Best home audio subwoofers according to redditors
We found 1,998 Reddit comments discussing the best home audio subwoofers. We ranked the 200 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
We found 1,998 Reddit comments discussing the best home audio subwoofers. We ranked the 200 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
![MartinLogan Dynamo 300 Home Theater and Stereo Subwoofer [Discontinued by Manufacturer]](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41KFY97NuOL.jpg)
A couple details:
Components:
I read QUITE a few reviews and this series was very highly rated at a reasonable price. Ended up getting many of them on refurb, open box, or otherwise for a great discount.
R/L Floor Speakers: Polk Audio TSi400
Center channel: Polk Audio CS20
R/L surround: Polk Audio TSi200
R/L rear in-ceiling: Polk Audio RC80i
Subwoofer: Polk Audio PSW505
Receiver: Harman Kardon AVR-3650
Projector: Optoma HD20
Screen: Elite Screens Sable, 100" CineWhite
Blu-Ray player: Pansonic DMP-BDT220
Remote: Logitech Harmony One RF (no line of sight needed)
Total of all electronic components with wiring and such came to around $5,000.
All lumber used for coffers is 1x finger jointed poplar. Used 1x8 ripped to dimension for verticals, 1x10 for horizontals. Sizes were dimensioned based upon the depth of the gimbal lights above the columns and the width of the column capitals.
Base and casement trim is also FJP, crown molding was MDF due to the major cost difference. Doors are Western solid cores, knobs by Emtek.
All speaker wires are 12 gauge UL rated for in-wall usage. All other cables and connectors are from Monoprice as well.
110v wiring is all 12/2 with 15A receptacles.
Gimbal lights from Lowes, wall sconces are Minka Lavery.
Total for all building materials came to around $2,000 (much of it in the coffered ceiling materials).
The project took around 2 months to complete from start to finish, of working on it after work each day. I'd estimate that there was about 100 hours in the ceiling construction, a great deal of that in paint work.
The columns/trim/doors/coffers are all done in a BM satin, which is the lightest shade of brown. The walls are of the same swatch, only one color darker, and in flat (to prevent light reflection from the bright projector). The ceiling is one color darker on the same swatch, also in flat. The vertical insides of the coffers behind the crown was also painted with the ceiling color to make the crown stand out more. The dark colors were all chosen to minimize any reflection from the screen.
Now that the room has a closet and an egress window, it can technically be counted as a 4th bedroom in my house when it comes time to sell.
When your Obutto seat starts to fall apart after a few years you can just bolt a real SPARCO seat onto that frame instead of some lame gaming chair. My cockpit feels more bad ass than ever 8 years after I originally bought it. And if you havent yet bolt 2 of these (https://www.amazon.com/AuraSound-AST-2B-4-Shaker-Tactile-Transducer/dp/B0002ZPTBI) onto the seat frame. You just need a $50 amp to drive them and a mini audio jack splitter to splice the sigal out from your sound card. Drives the immersion up even more.
I couldn't find an affordable buttkicker brand package but I did find a great amp and transducer on amazon for 2/3 the price of the Gamer 2 (cheapest buttkicker) at just about $100. It works fantastically! I'll post links to the products if you care to see them.
Edit:
AuraSound AST-2B-4 Pro Bass Shaker Tactile Transducer by Aura Sound
Lepai LP-168HA 2.1 2 x 40-Watt Amplifier and 1x68W Sub Output by Lepai
12v 6a Adapter Power Supply for LCD Monitor with Power Cord by LCD AC Power Adapter
Couldn't really find what I was looking for specifically, so I scoured a few subs and saw numerous suggestions. Ended up purchasing the following items:
Dayton Speakers
Lepy Amp
RCA to AUX
Polk Subwoofer
Speaker Wire
Super happy with these purchases. All in all it costed just about 200 bucks. For me, it's all I will ever need. Crisp sounds and heavy bass when I want it. Would consider shelling out for a better amp, but the amp provided should be sufficient if you aren't blasting your music.
Additionally, if you do plan on doing an audio set up of this nature, use this image to guide you. Also note that the DAC in the image would be your RCA to AUX if you were to use the set up I posted. If you have any questions feel free to ask.
Short answer.. DON'T BUY THESE..
Assuming the $60 budget..
These and This for starters.
If a sub is really needed. Just save up and buy a real one (~$200)
The last line makes me think you have an amp.. Do you?
Try checking out the Epson 8350 refurb: $900
A DIY screen from Carl's Place in 16:9 ratio 120": ~$100
A Denon 1913 receiver or whatever strikes your fancy at Accessories4Less: $280
This leaves you with around 700 dollars for speakers. There are a HUGE number of options at this point and the deals are always changing.
I recommend the BIC America F12 subwoofer: $200
Then for your last $500 dollars get two floor-standers and a matching center and whatever surrounds you can get.
At some point you will want to consider the following: speaker stands for bookshelf speakers, risers for floor-standing speakers, speaker wire, a second subwoofer (identical to the first), and room treatment for improved acoustics.
Don't let people say you can't have an awesome set up for 2,500. That is more than I've ever had to spend and I have a great time. Please post pictures when you've got it together!
EDIT: Some grammar.
Think of it like a subwoofer that shakes objects rather than the air. Its hard to hear in any room but the one your in, and you FEEL the ship. Its adds as much immersion as putting on the rift.
you need these things to make it:
3.5mm Stereo Male to 2RCA Male
Audio Amplifier
Bass Shaker Tactile Transducer
Optional Low pass filter
$250 AV Receiver Denon 720 (refurb w/ltd warranty, has HDCP 2.2 Dolby Atmos)
https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrs720w/denon-avr-s720w-7.2-ch-x-75-watts-networking-a/v-receiver/1.html
$90 Micca MB42X Bookshelves PAIR for Front
$90 Micca MB42X Bookshelves PAIR for Surround
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2
$70 Micca MB42X-C Center Channel
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00HHFBEK6
$42 Micca M8C In-ceiling speakers EACH (for x.x.2 atmos)
$42 Micca M8C In-ceiling speakers EACH (for x.x.2 atmos)
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-M-8C-Ceiling-Speaker-Pivoting/dp/B002YPS6T6
$200 BIC America F12 12" Sub
https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M
$550 Projector Optoma 142X (cnet.com "Best Picture for the Money" 2018)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HQCF6R6
$205 Elite Manual 120" Projector Screen
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OLO59EI
TOTAL: $1550
You will also want a universal remote (Logitech Harmony recommended), speaker wire / banana plugs, stands / mounts, HDMI + subwoofer cable. So with this stuff as well you're over budget, but you could grab everything except the sub and add that later, for example.
EDIT: found the projector recommendation here, with more research you might be able to find better (same for the screen):
https://www.cnet.com/topics/tvs/best-tvs/projectors/
No.
You are going from one home theater in a box system to another. Generally, stay away from anything in a 5.1 package for under $500. Go with separates instead starting at $50 to $150 and build as you go. Only the front 3 speakers need to match.
If you want better sound then start with a pair of 5.25" or 6.5" bookshelf speakers and the matching center. Then add a better subwoofer. Then add surrounds.
Optional Receiver Upgrade:
Low Budget 5.1 under $300.
Better 3 front speakers:
Better subwoofers:
HT Guides: r/HTBuyingGuides FAQ, How to Set Up a Basic Home Theater System - Lifewire, How to Set Up Your Home Theater Receiver, Speaker Placement for Home Theater
Also see r/hometheater.
God dam, you’re right.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_iPJDCbK826M4E
IMHO: A subwoofer isn't optional when it comes to dubstep. You'll be missing all the low-end (which let's be honest, is why we're all here) if you omit a decent sub from you set up. As far as amps (I call these receivers) go, you'd probably be best off visiting your local pawn shop or anywhere you can get pre-owned electronics and picking something up. I got mine for under $100CAD and it has power to spare. For ease of set-up I'd suggest finding something with dedicated subwoofer outputs on the back. As for speakers, these or these will do right by you. Personally I use this subwoofer, and it has the juice to have my entire house shaking. Wires are pretty much standard in my experience as long as you're talking about a simple home listening system. These wires would do fine for your needs. If you want a proper listening experience dont use bluetooth speakers, and dont skimp on a subwoofer.
Hope that helps, my dude!
With a $600 budget you should start with a 2.0 system then, if you want, add to it as the budget replenishes to flesh it out to a full 5.1 system. With that budget I'd start with this:
Receiver $240: http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/marnr1403/marantz-nr1403-slimline-5.1-av-receiver/1.html
L/R speakers $172: http://smile.amazon.com/Infinity-Primus-Two-way-Bookshelf-Satellite/dp/B0045NCB32/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1425873281&sr=8-3&keywords=infinity+primus
This will immediately be better than any soundbar (well, other than a $1500 Martin Logan soundbar) and is high quality and flexible. When possible get this subwoofer $270: http://smile.amazon.com/NXG-Technology-NX-BAS-500-500-watt-Subwoofer/dp/B008FSTU4G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1425873379&sr=8-1&keywords=nxg+bas500
Center channel $145: http://smile.amazon.com/Infinity-Primus-Two-way-Speaker-Center-Channel/dp/B0046A8R5A/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1425873281&sr=8-10&keywords=infinity+primus
And finally surrounds $120: http://smile.amazon.com/Infinity-Primus-Two-way-Bookshelf-Satellite/dp/B0044D3R7M/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1425873281&sr=8-5&keywords=infinity+primus
15in Dayton
So yeah, I'm sure my placement is trash and everything is overkill for my tiny apartment, but it sounds amazing and I couldn't be happier.
I have my my PS4 Pro, Xbox One X, and Switch all hooked up off to the side running through the receiver.
Barring significant discounts, the following list tends to be the best bang-for-buck value subs, in order of increasing price:
$110 Dayton Audio SUB-1000
$140 Dayton Audio SUB-1200
$200 BIC F12. ^(Edit: not sure if designed by Dr. Hsu.)
$290 BIC PL-200 II (now $250). ^(Edit: Designed by Dr. Hsu.)
They are all great at their price points. But if you can swing the pricier BIC, you should be VERY happy.
I bet they're absolute trash.
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-COVO-S-Compact-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B00N8265I8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498973961&sr=8-1&keywords=micca+covo-s
These will sound way better
And when you save up you can get a real subwoofer.
https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SUB-800-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0063NU30K/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1498974072&sr=1-1&keywords=dayton+audio+sub+800
Denon X-1000: $200
Dayton B652 x3 (6 speakers total, save the extra): $105
Monoprice sub: $100
I know you say HTIB is all he needs, but honestly, you get a LOT more by piecing it together, for the same price.
How about the Dayton Sub-1500?
Within your budget:
Yes, the general consensus among audiophiles is that Bose is overpriced and soundbars are very underwhelming. "Real 5.1 sound" cannot (yet) be achieved without a real 5.1 setup. Most HTIB (Home Theatres in a Box) will give you better sound than a soundbar.
I own this 5.1 Pioneer speaker setup found here and I highly recommend it to anyone that is looking for a good entry level home theater setup. Shop around and you can get a fantastic deal on the whole setup. I got the 5.0 setup for less than $300 and then upgraded to a $200 BIC 12 sub to get the 0.1.
You will then of course need a decent reciever (about $250) and cables and you will blow any speaker bar out of the water. I am not certain if this is within your budget since you only quoted "cheaper than bose" but I have seen this exact setup recommend many times before and I feel it is one of the best values for the price.
Edit: I was way under your budget. You could definitely do better than this setup at your price range.
Hello, fellow Canadian!
DO NOT BUY THIS SYSTEM. You can get a MUCH better system for $25.49 more.
Check this out:
ELAC F5 Towers - $839.98
ELAC B4 Surrounds - $269.99
ELAC C5 Center - $319.99
BIC F12 Subwoofer - $295.53 (incl. shipping)
Sub-Total: $1725.49
I would recommend just getting ELAC B5s or B6s for the front speakers and you can save a couple hundred dollars more (which I might put towards a better subwoofer or a second subwoofer).
Sorry I wrote all that without directly addressing your question, but that Polk package is bad value (even though it's on sale) and the included subwoofer is a pile of steaming shyte.
So, for pairing speakers with a receiver, pretty much anything works. Denon, Marantz, and Yamaha are the most recommended brands here.
Gibby's Electronics sells the Denon X1300 for $399.99 (b-stock) but they're out of stock. They also have the S710W for $399.99 (b-stock, I don't get the pricing), which is probably your best option unless you're willing to wait for b-stock to come in for the X1300.
To build a system using the minimum recommendations from this sub, let's start with this diagram: http://i.imgur.com/Z8FMJ.png
DAC is optional, so is a subwoofer but I recommend one.
DAC: Behringer UCA202 $29.99 Link: http://amzn.com/B000KW2YEI
Amplifier: SMSL SA-50 $68.99 Link: http://amzn.com/B00F0H8TOC
Subwoofer: Dayton Audio SUB-800 $99.00 Link: http://amzn.com/B0063NU30K
Bookshelf Speakers: Micca MB42X $89.00 Link: http://amzn.com/B00E7H8GG2
Wire: 16-gauge Speaker Wire $8.00 Link: http://amzn.com/B006LW0WDQ
With DAC, this cable: Stereo Male to 2 RCA Male $5 Link: http://amzn.com/B00I0HPK6O
Without DAC, this cable: Monoprice 105597 3-Feet Premium Stereo Male to 2RCA Male $5 Link: http://amzn.com/B0094A1F3S
This is a great starter system, I would have loved to had something like this starting out.
All of these pieces can be upgraded, do your research. Look for sales etc. Good luck and have fun.
There is nothing wrong with your choices except if you have money I would not get the Lepai. Either of the speakers you picked would work fine but I'll give you some other options.
Budget is $250 so lets see how we can spend it.
Bic Acoustech PL-200 II Subwoofer $249 on Amazon with Prime shipping.
I use an AuraSound tactile transducer mounted to the back of my chair. I haven't tried a Buttkicker, but my setup seems to work well enough for significantly less money.
http://smile.amazon.com/AuraSound-AST-2B-4-Shaker-Tactile-Transducer/dp/B0002ZPTBI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422062773&sr=8-1&keywords=aura+bass+shaker&pebp=1422062755133&peasin=B0002ZPTBI
A 3.1, or possibly even a 3.2 setup down the road, should do nicely. I would highly consider these Emptek (now RBH sound) speakers and this matching Center, along with a sub of your choice. The Bic F12 is a local favorite. This leaves some change (~$400) for a receiver and wires and whatnot, or maybe some speaker stands.
Those speakers really sound fantastic though, and they look like something you would normally find in the $1000+ range of bookshelves. Plus, they match your furniture pretty well, so thats a plus.
Uhhh why is it hard to not buy a soundbar exactly, especially if your budget is 1K?
Here’s your receiver.
Here are two awesome tower speakers if you want that.
If you don’t want just two tower speakers, here’s two bookshelf speakers...
... a center channel...
... and a subwoofer.
Go wild.
Studio monitors, or powered monitors in general can work great in a 2.0 or 2.1 system. Broadly, they will be much more "hi-fi" than the Pro Media's will be; but also more expensive, especially when you factor in adding subwoofer.
The Klipsch's run ~$140 retail, and at that price you can begin to build a solid budget 2.1 set up.
There a few good solutions at this point, my personal favorite would be:
This puts you @ $150
Adding this sub would get you up to $230 but also complete a system that would be world better than the Klipsch or anyother 2.1 system commonly used for computers.
Ok, how about this....
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/pionvsx530k/pioneer-vsx-530-k-5.1-ch-x-80-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html
Cheapest new AVR youll find= 120$
2 sets of these. Used, very good condition = 70$
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B009IUIV4A/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1496712733&sr=8-1&keywords=mb42
1 of these. Used very good condition = 35$
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00HH2GINM/ref=sr_1_3_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1496712733&sr=8-3&keywords=mb42
And 1 of these = 110$ or the sub-1000 for 10$ more
https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SUB-800-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0063NU30K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496712905&sr=8-1&keywords=dayton+sub+800
Thats about as good as youll get for 350 for 5.1 that wont sound like total garbage. You can also look at used, but thats a non guaranteed crapshoot.
Onkyo TX-NR676 - $339.00.
Polk T30 center channel - $89.99
Polk PSW10 10" subwoofer - $99.99
Polk T50 towers for the front speakers - $89.99 x2 = $179.98
Polk T15 Bookshelf speakers for the rear surrounds - $59.00 x2 = $118.00
Total: $824.98. Throw in ~$70 for sales tax and another $30-40 for audio cable and $5 for an HDMI cord. You can save $60 by switching the front towers for T15s.
The Onkyo can be expanded to 5.1.2 for Atmos, and supports DTS:X as well. 4K passthrough and it supports every audio format up through Atmos. It's a fantastic AVR, especially at that price.
EDIT: fixed link for T50 towers.
I would stick with a ported sub, in that case. For $420 the SVS PB-1000 Is VERY hard to beat.
Click "Used". IQ HOME ENTERTAINMENT offers the PB-1000 New but open box for $419 + free shipping.
I've purchased multiple items from IQ and 100% would recommend
This was my exact budget! I ended up going with the Denon AVR-S510BT from Accessories4Less as my receiver. I got it for $130 (normally around ~$250). It can carry a 4k/HDCP2.2 signal and also has two subwoofer outs so I can upgrade to two subs and I will be using this for years in the future. Also has 5 channels so I can easily add a center/surrounds in the near future.
As for speakers, I went with Pioneer's Andrew Jones SP-FS52. I got them for $180 for the pair which is a steal because on Amazon they are going for $260 for the pair! They sound amazing and my receiver has no problem driving them.
And for the sub, I went with the trusty budget [BIC America F12](BIC America F12 12-Inch 475-Watt Front Firing Powered Subwoofer https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_oTmTyb9EG6AE1) which BUMPS, and is going for about $215 on Amazon at the moment. When placed right, this thing can hit the frequencies that makes your chest rumble and without being too loud.
Overall I spent exactly $525 (right in your budget!) and got myself an amazing sounding system to watch TV and movies, and the best part is there's so much room to upgrade! I can upgrade from 2.1 to 5.2 when I feel, and since the receiver carries 4k, I won't have to upgrade for a while.
Hope this helps!
So I am gonna try to answer your actual question, though PLEASE heed the advice of upgrading your system.
I looked at the AVR you have, and you will 100% without a doubt NEVER get 5.1 input to that device. It simply does not have an interface to accept any type of digital audio input.
So unfortunately it just isn't gonna happen in any way shape or form. No adapter, device, or otherwise will make it happen.
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Now that we have that cleared up, if you want 5.1, you do have options.
Your speakers look to be 6 Ohms, so you need an AVR that can support 6 Ohms, and you can use the exist speakers. Though you will need a subwoofer to replace the proprietary stuff.
I personally like my onkyo AVR, it has worked extremely well for me. This one is the upgraded model that supports Dolby Atmos, DTS:X, 4K, HDR10, and Dolby Vision.
So this will do so much more then your current setup.
https://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-NR676-Channel-Network-Receiver/dp/B06XTYXH9M/
Just that single purchase alone will get you 90% of the way to a decent setup.
Combine that with something like a BIC F12, and you have a kicking theater setup that will honestly rival that of your actual local theater.
https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M/
http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M
Probably nicer than your speakers.
You will have to get a receiver and with that budget, you will have to buy a refurbished receiver to get anything for your money. Amazon is selling a good yamaha 5.1 receiver below:
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-HTR-3066-R-5-1-Channel-Refurbished-Receiver/dp/B00IWURW6U/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1404937723&sr=8-10&keywords=yamaha+receiver
Then you can get a pair of bookshelf speakers to start:
http://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1404937847&sr=8-1&keywords=micca+speakers
This would be a pretty decent 2.0 setup. Over time you can purchase a subwoofer:
http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Dynamo-300-Theater-Subwoofer/dp/B004LRPXAU/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1404938019&sr=8-16&keywords=subwoofer
This whole setup can be expanded to a 3.1, 4.1, or 5.1 setup by purchasing another set (or 2 sets) of bookshelf speakers.
Denon S710W ($250), it handles HDR, has Audyssey Bronze, and ARC (the S510BT doesn't have those, so get that if you don't care).
Pioneer FS52 ($90x2, if you have Prime)
BIC Venturi 10" ($170).
If you have a subwoofer, I personally don't think towers are worth it, besides aesthetics. Amazon sells the bookshelf version of those towers for half the price ($90 for the pair). So you could go that way to save money, or get better bookshelves and/or a better sub.
Or, if you don't care about future expandability, you can get a real nice pair of powered monitors with a sub out, bypassing the need for a receiver. Such as the new Kanto YU6 for $390 (available in many colors) + either the BIC F12 ($215) or the Dayton 15" ($200).
Assuming you don't need a receiver? I'd pick up 2 Chane bookshelf speakers and a BIC F12. If you don't like those speakers, you could also go with some HSU Research bookshelves too.
EDIT: Whoops, didn't notice you said you get 60% off of klipsch. In that case, pick up a couple RF-62's and the matching subwoofer, and you should be around that price range.
The Bic F12 is arguably the best sub in that price range but with a room that big you are going to need more than one sub to get full coverage. 14x30 is a good sized room.
http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1382973964&sr=8-1&keywords=bic+f12
>Budget of around $200.
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>Will this do the job?
The subwoofer you linked? HELL NO.
For $200 the ONLY sub worth looking at is the BIC F12 https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M
It still won't rock your room completely but it'll be light years better than the crappy Polk sub you have.
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> I'll be using this in addition to the Polk 8" sub.
Donate to good will. Don't bother using it ever again once you get a new sub.
LR: Elac Debut 2.0 6.2 bookshelfs
C: Elac Debut 2.0 6.2 center
Sub: Bic America F12 or Dayton Audio Sub-1200
AVR: Something here. Whatever fits your budget and has the features you need. Make sure that if you're going to be streaming music to get one that is at least wifi compatible or networking (ethernet jack). I personally can recommend the Yamaha RX-V483. If that Yamaha is too expensive then go with a Denon with comparable features.
Stands: (If you don't already have a surface to put your LR on) Monoprice monoliths (24inch or 28inch, depending on ear height at listening/watching position) or Monoprice glass
If the price comes out to be too much then go with the Dayton sub and a cheaper AVR.
You'll also need some speaker wire, a wire cutter, and possibly some silicone hemispheres
That is a 3.1 to start. I think you'll be very happy and impressed with it. Given some time and some saving you'll be ready to upgrade to some surrounds. Delayed gratification is always worth it in this game :)
I've had the BIC F12, for about 2 weeks now and it has been amazing. Extremely powerful and very clear. Should be right around your budget and it also looks like it has the inputs you need.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015A8Y5M/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=AED492BX4II6G&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/AuraSound-AST-2B-4-Shaker-Tactile-Transducer/dp/B0002ZPTBI
At that budget, I'd go with Denon 1400 and BIC F12 sub.
And if you want to add some speakers
You will be disappointed with that sub as it only goes down to 40 Hz. I'd look at the BIC F-12. It will get down to 25Hz and well within the budget.
https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M People seem to like this one. I don't own it, but very nice for the money.
Edit: I know this is like $10 over your budget, but figured you could stretch it $10.
Not sure what your sub budget is but you can do way better than that Onkyo sub if you increase your budget.
for $200: https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-sub-1500-15-150-watt-powered-subwoofer--300-634.
for $250: https://www.amazon.com/Bic-Acoustech-PL-200-II-Subwoofer/dp/B074131NKS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1521495264&sr=8-2&keywords=bic+subwoofer.
EDIT: the Bic apparently increased in price. I remember it being $250 at some point .
Max is right. Get rid of the up-firing atmos, and get a better sub, like an SVS PB1000 on Amazon from IQ open box for $420.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00K88UMPW/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all
If you have space for a center channel this is what I would go for:
Speakers: A lot of options here but just as a good example consider the HTD Level 3 Bookshelf speakers along with the matching Center Channel. Should be between $560-600 after shipping and depending what finish you choose.
Receiver: Pick up a refurb Denon X1300W for $300.
Subwoofer: Again, a lot of options for the subwoofer but the BIC PL-200 is a great sub at $250.
That leaves you with a little padding for some odds and ends like speaker wire and speaker stands.
If you don't have a good spot for the center channel consider going for more expensive speakers, a more expensive sub/dual subs, or tower speakers.
I recently purchased a town house, after renting a room for several years. Didn't have any furniture other than the bedroom essentials, so I had a pretty blank slate to work with.
I realize the layout isn't ideal, given the lighting and open floor layout (opens up to the dining room and kitchen), but I was more concerned with having a good hangout environment than having the prefect viewing experience. The only other option was an above ground basement, which would have had the same lighting issue, though better acoustics.
The lighting isn't as bad as it appears in the picture, imo. I've never really had a problem with it, though I do spend most of my time relaxing in the evenings when there is no direct sunlight coming from those windows. Even then, the Samsung seems to handle it well.
EDIT:
Additional pictures of the cable management.
https://i.imgur.com/iPxbpNz.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6pkdjpH.jpg
For the wall I used some 1/4" shaped wiremold from Home Depot. Sanded and spray painted it to match the existing 1/4" Round. For the rest of the power cables and such, I modified the middle drawer of an Ikea cabinet to hide them away and give me easy access. I'm still not quite sure what to do about the remaining outlet wires, but other than that there aren't any other visible cables.
EDIT 2:
Since I've been asked about pretty much every piece short of the coffee table, I figured I would update this post to consolidate that info. Most of these items I bought used or on sale.
TV - Samsung KS8500 65"
Reciever - Denon AVR-S720W
Speakers - ELAC UB5/UC5/UB5, Surrounds - B4
Subwoofer - Bic Acoustech PL-200 12"
Entertainment Center - Modified BESTÅ from Ikea
Speaker Stands - Sanus SF30 Steel Series
Couch - Corey Sectional from Havertys
Art - Patent Collections from Displate
Rug - [Safavieh Glacier from Overstock](https://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Safavieh-Glacier-Contemporary-Abstract-Blue-Multi-
Area-Rug-6-7-x-9-67-x-9/14248766/product.html)
Bookshelves - Parthenia Etagere Bookcase from Wayfair
Coffee Table - Baxton Studio Wood/Metal End Table
I'd get more info on the speakers but seems like an okay deal at best to me.
The sub brand new is $100 right now - http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA
The receiver was an MRSP of only $250 brand new too.
Maybe look at this too : https://www.reddit.com/r/hometheater/comments/3uxgx9/help_building_a_budget_speaker_setup_300/
The internet fully prepared me to be blown away by Magnepan MMGs, until I auditioned them in a dealer's dedicated listening room with nice NAD components. The bass (their one acknowledged shortcoming) actually exceeded my expectations, but everything else fell short. They sounded fine for the price and everything, but it wasn't a revelation. And while they did have that great open, airy quality when playing stripped-bare low-effort "audiophile" tracks, complex music sounded pretty lifeless.
But the MMGs weren't bad. Unlike the Amazon-reviewed king of budget subwoofers, the Polk PSW10. I bought one on sale to see what the hype was about. Below about 50Hz the port turbulence is actually louder than the bass it fails to produce. It is a shockingly bad sub.
Here's how I have my racing and desk space setup.
Sim Racing
Entire desk
I have my Rift sensor and my second monitor attached to two of these monitor mounts (https://amzn.com/B01AI2YGK4). Works very well for being able to adjust it both the sensor and monitor to swing from desk to racing mode. Just have to reset the view when you launch a game. The Rift cable runs under the desk from my computer to just above the trash can - so in desktop mode I bring the cable between the pedal brackets and the legs of the desk, and racing mode it runs along side the rig. I actually have two Rift cables, one by itself and another that is in a braided nylon sleeve with a USB extension for my Leapmotion. Switching is a little bit of a pain, but the nylon sleeve is way cleaner than the "weaved" solution that Leapmotion suggests.
On the left upright for the steering mount I have a button box mounted that controls a bunch of automated scripts for switching between the two setups - change audio devices, display modes, as well as a few Teamspeak functions. When racing I disable my larger 144hz monitor so I can isolate what I'm doing to a single monitor and don't have to worry about losing a program on the other monitor that I can't see from the 80/20 rig.
I just got the aluminum extrusion rig (Bosch Rexroth), which I got locally for about $100 less than what I would have paid for an equivalent 80/20 setup through ebay. I haven't really cleaned up the wiring of the extrusion rig yet as I am in the process of adding SimVibe to the mix, which the first round of hardware should be here today!
/u/ZeosPantera, any suggestions on a 'cheap-ish' amp setup to power 2 to 4 AuraSound Transducers, ideally all separate channels?
If it were me and you really want to upgrade your sound now, but also want to have the ability for a full 5.1 sound later I'd check out craigslist. You can probably find an older 5.1 receiver for under $70. A quick look in my area brought up a few. A few months ago I sold a 12 year old Pioneer that still was great, but I wanted the ability to get music via my network/internet. I sold it for $60. Then I would look for 2 decent book shelf speakers that you would use for fronts now and later use them for rears. These are as low as they go according to camelizer https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-T15-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B002RJLHB8/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1510803743&sr=1-3&keywords=polk+bookshelf+speakers&dpID=31bhM1nV3tL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch Then I'd get a sub https://www.amazon.com/Polk-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer-Single/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1510803898&sr=1-3&keywords=polk+subwoofer&dpID=51JGYWW4N4L&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
That would get you started and would kick the shit out of any 2.1 soundbar. So you'd be looking at $140 for the 2 speakers and sub and then w/e you could find on craigslist for an a/v receiver. If you can stretch your budget to about $300 you could grab this which is certified refurbished https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrs510bt/denon-avr-s510bt-5.2-ch-x-70-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html
None of this is going to be wireless. IF you can stretch out to $400 you could get this receiver which I really like for the price: https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrx1300w/denon-avr-x1300w-7.2-ch-x-80-watts-networking-a/v-receiver/1.html
Keep in mind you'll have to buy some speaker wire and a crimping/cutting tool. But yeah about $400 will get you a decent setup like Mtown said.
The best way to go about buying home theater equipment is to buy stuff that you'll use later. So if you have a soundbar now, I'd just use it and save up until you have enough for a decent refurbed 5.1 av receiver ~$250 and some bookshelf speakers ~50-100.
If you absolutely need a 2.1 soundbar. I bought a refurbed lg sh4 2.1 for about $130 on amazon. I believe they are more now. It's enough for a small room. I use it for my office and it's decent.
You can probably get better advice about starting up a ht system by searching r/hometheater.
I'm a noobie. The only speaker system I've had before is a [Logitech z623 Computer speakers] (https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/speaker-system-z623?crid=47) which was satisfactory until the subwoofer started rattling at high volumes and one of the speakers stopped working. I want to get a full set-up so I've been learning everything I can. I want a good set up for house parties, generally playing rap and electronic music. My budget is $250-500.
Willing to buy used, just always paranoid I'll buy something in bad shape.
These are the parts that I am currently contemplating buying:
Speakers -- I can't decide between tower or bookshelf. I have read that bookshelf speakers can be a better bang for your buck, so I would love some suggestions. Speakers are suppose to be the most important part of the set up so I've tried to pick out decent options, but very willing to go cheap if there are any good deals.
Bookshelf option:
Craigslist for Bookshelf
Tower options:
or the cheaper version
or dirt cheap option
Craiglist for Towers
Subwoofer:
This product seemed to be at a great price for its quality, so for now I think this is what I'm gonna get but very open to suggestions.
Craigslist for Subwoofers
Still doing research on DAC's, Amps and Receivers, probably just gonna go with a receiver for simplicity's sake.
EDIT: Wait can I just get these JBL LSR305 Professional Studio Monitor with the built in amps and then just have to buy a DAC? or would I still need a receiver if I wanted to add a subwoofer?
Yes, you will need a phono preamp with an Orbit Plus and your receiver. I recommend this one. It is very highly regarded in audiophile forums in its price range. I would not recommend going any cheaper.
That receiver and those speakers are perfectly adequate to get you started, both are considered good entry-level options. Pairing a subwoofer with those speakers will provide a marked increase in sound quality on the low-end. I would recommend doing so. I recommend this sub, as it is a fantastic value and will serve you very well.
Here is some information about hooking up a subwoofer to a stereo receiver that does not have a dedicated subwoofer output. Hint: just use speaker wire in the "B" terminals.
Looks like you have yourself a decent starter setup which should serve you well. Have fun.
EDIT: get your speakers off the damn floor. Either get some stands or a platform to isolate your turntable from vibrations caused by the speakers if you want to put them on top of your shelf (platform probably isn't terribly necessary with bookshelf speakers unless you play your music very loudly).
I paired them with this sub https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0002KVQBA/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Case in point: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0002KVQBA
Look at the star rating on that. I bought one back in 2012 based on the reviews and it was utterly terrible. It got loud enough (mostly chuffing/port noise) and nothing else- just the sloppiest, distorted, worst sounding bass I've ever heard.. to this day it blows my mind that it has such a good rating on Amazon. Serves as a perfect warning about why Amazon reviews are worthless for audio products.
Challenge accepted.
Total: $968 (Only 3.1, couldn't manage full 5.1 under $1000)
BIC America F12 for $183.45 I paid about $250 for it about 6 months ago.
There is a pretty good chance I have the same receiver as you.
This sub shakes my entire 1800sqft house. It gets uncomfortably loud with plenty of power to spare.
FYI, if your receiver is anything like mine, you will have to set the front channel speaker type to "small" in order to get output to the sub in a 2.1 configuration, or you will have to set the output mode to 5/7 channel stereo.
BIC America F-12 Subwoofer - ~225$ - http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M
Enigma Paradox (modded Fostex T50RP by LFF) - ~500$ - http://enigmaticaudio.com/product/paradox/
(very flat, according to measurements... might be worth checking out)
Fostex TH500RP - ~330$ - http://slickdeals.net/f/8523927-fostex-th500rp-premium-rp-stereo-headphones-329-00-fs-se?src=catpagev2
(Yep. 330$ for open, Fostex, planar magnetic headphones.)
Mayflower Electronics ODAC+Objective2 (w/ RCA jacks) - ~330$ - https://www.mayflowerelectronics.com/shop/digital-to-analog-converters/desktop-objective2-with-odac/
Mayflower Electronics T50RP Version 1 Headphone - ~250$ - https://www.mayflowerelectronics.com/shop/headphones/fostex-t50rp-version-1/
(add the headband and version 3 pads)
Samson SR850 - ~50$ - http://www.amazon.com/Samson-SR850-Professional-Reference-Headphones/dp/B002LBSEQS
Samson SR950 - ~30$ - http://www.dealzon.com/deals/samson-sr950-headphones
Shure SRH840 - ~200$ - http://www.amazon.com/Shure-SRH840-Professional-Monitoring-Headphones/dp/B002DP8IEKShure SRH940 - ~230$ - http://www.amazon.com/Shure-SRH940-Professional-Reference-Headphones/dp/B004MTE7EK
Shure SRH1440 - ~260$ - http://www.amazon.com/Shure-SRH1440-Professional-Headphones-Black/dp/B0073P4ESO
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Thought these would be a good starting point on some new stuff.
Also, maybe consider using Equalizer APO to get the JBL LSR305's to match No Audiophile's settings, and maybe give us your review of those settings.
EDIT: Added prices to make it easier.
We're gonna need your budget in order to help. But A 2.1 setup is definitley the way to go to upgrade ehar you have. Sell those. They are very popular. If you want strictly a computer speaker setup, a 2 channel amp is probably fine. My bestbuy has a really weak bookshelf speaker selection, but you probably at least have the pioneer andrew jones speakers. They are well reviewed. If you have a nice discount they might be a good idea. Also a simple rule is the bigger they are, the louder and lower they get.
/r/zeos has a good 2.1 guide and /r/budgetaudiophile has great extensive speaker recommendation list. If you want to really rock, the pioneers may not be ideal.
These yamaha are massive bangers to blow your face off.
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-NS-6490-Bookshelf-Speakers-Finish/dp/B00018Q4GA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1421977443&sr=8-3&keywords=yamaha+speakers
2 of these would be good too. Smaller.
http://www.amazon.com/Infinity-Primus-Two-way-Bookshelf-Satellite/dp/B0045NCB32/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1421977463&sr=8-2&keywords=infinity+primus
Smsl amp http://www.amazon.com/SMSL-TDA7492-Integrated-Tripath-Amplifier/dp/B00F0H8TOC
Sub http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0015A8Y5M/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1421962220&sr=8-1
But read through the the zeos guide and the sidebars.
You're not going to find low frequency response in a sub (no pun intended) $200 subwoofer. Low frequency response is the most expensive/challenging part of making a quality subwoofer.
Best bet is to find a 2nd hand SVS, HSU, or Rythmik subwoofer but there is this which is a decent balance.
http://noaudiophile.com/JBL_LSR305/
https://www.amazon.com/SVS-SB-1000-Subwoofer-Black-Ash/dp/B00AF88C0M/
I would get the SVS SB-2000 if you can swing the extra, but these should make you happy within your budget.
Any way you slice it, $400 for this soundbar with Android TV built-in is a terrible deal.
My biggest problem with this soundbar is that you will be relying on JBL for software updates. This is a company with zero track record for software development and support. Until they can prove they are competent at this, it is a nonstarter for me.
The second thing is that the price simply does not justify the convenience of having an Android TV box built into the soundbar. If it was $100-200, I would understand. But at $400, the competition and alternatives are way too fierce.
If I am being generous, I would say this soundbar is on par with the Yamaha YAS-108. I seriously doubt it though. I'll give them the benefit though. This is a $200 soundbar.
A Mi Box S is $60. This bring the total value of having two separate items to $260. Is it really worth the $140 price difference to have them built into a single item?
Another alternative for $400 would be to start a proper home stereo audio setup. Once again, $60 for a Mi Box and $340 for audio equipment. You can buy a cheap amp, a couple of bookshelf speakers, and a subwoofer for that price. That would be the beginning of your very own home theater setup:
Ultimately, for less than $400 you can either get a much better soundbar or a beginner audiophile setup and still get an Android TV box.
Like others said I'd go with a sub. If you've got a tight budget look into the Dynamo 300.
I also have the Fluance SX6s paired with the Dynamo 300 and I've been really impressed. Although you'll want something bigger if it's a pretty big/open space you're working with, my setup is in my room (like 12x12ft).
Considering upgrading from 2.0 to 2.1 for a desktop setup, how do you do this with this? looks like the sub doesn't have Hi-level Out connectors? Would a receiver be required in this case?
RIP fireplace.
Seriously though, was there no other option for TV placement?
Great choices on the audio gear though. One of the the best new speaker sets in that price range. Should sound great. When you start looking for a sub though, I would recommend looking at other models, the big box store brands like Pioneer typically make lousy subs(at least in their budget line). The Bic F12 is often recommended as the best new sub in the <$200 price range.
edit: PS, love the DW decor. We have the same Van Gogh tardis print in our living room = )
Well, I did the best I could. I ruled out bookshelves since you said you had the room since bookshelves in this price range don't do so well with "loud" without causing distortion and hearing damage.
So, here are some options. Get one thing out of each section. Try to spend as much as you can on the speakers.
Speakers
BIC America Venturi DV64 x2 (~$250)
Infinity Primus P363 x2 (~$350)
PSB Alpha T1 (~$400)
Integrated Amplifier
SMSL SA50 (~$75)
Emotiva mini-X a-100 (~$190)
The following aren't necessary to get things working but you should add them when you get the cash.
DAC
schiit modi 2 (~$100)
This connects your computer to the amplifier. Without this, you just use a male 3.5mm to rca stereo cable.
Subwoofer
BIC America F12 (~$190)
You connect the amp's outputs to the speaker inputs on the sub and then connect the speakers to the sub's speaker outputs.
If I were you I would start out with the PSB speakers and emotiva amp (if you can afford the ~$600) then add the sub when you get more money. The DAC will sound better than your computer's sound card and reduce static and interference from your computer.
A new amplified sub woofer might be a better deal in the long run, as it would deliver more bass than 50 watts can deliver.
http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M
A replacement driver could also work with better low level response etc. Here is a good source for replacement drivers
http://www.parts-express.com/
If you can save up get this. http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1334285971&amp;sr=8-7. I have it myself and it shakes my house. Completely amazing with Dubstep.
L/R: ELAC B6
Center: ELAC C5
Sub: BIC F12
Receiver: Denon S510BT
Speaker placement can be hard to figure out, but that all depends on the space. 3.1 is fairly easy even in small areas. I had a small living room and this worked out great for me.
When a better idea of the space you have, I could give you a build on what I'd do based on your budget.
Receiver
Denon AVR-S640H - $200
LRC
Wavecrest HVL-1 x3 - $300
Sub
BIC F12 - $206
Surrounds
Micca-MB42X - $80
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Benq w1070 Projector
Denon-1713 receiver
Jamo S426 Speakers
BIC F12 Subwoofer
3D TV Corp Glasses
Sony BDP-5100
edit: If anyone is wondering, 89" fixed screen. Picture doesn't really do it justice.
I absolutely love it. Could not be happier. Feel free to ask any questions.
Hey /u/ZeosPantera,
I first wanted to say you are the fucking man. This subreddit has been so incredibly helpful in figuring out my audio system. Additionally, I was wondering if you could provide your expertise for me.
My fraternity is currently getting our house back in a few weeks, and we have money to spend on home improvement (in this case, an audio system for the large common room). I'm looking for a system that can double as both a home theater sound system as well as speakers for a large, loud party. I assembled a list of components and was hoping you can recommend any changes. This is the list so far:
Receiver - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B7X2OV2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Center - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015A8Y3E/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Front speakers (tower) - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002ISZEV2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Rear speakers - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CRMKJTQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=A1WPEQCN6WJKZG
Subwoofer - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015A8Y5M/ref=ox_sc_act_title_8?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
These are the ones you listed as being loud enough to play music on as well. Will these products fit the bill for my needs (home theater, large frat party)? Also, these extras to set up the system:
Banana plugs - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0090CVJZ4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
RCA cable - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003FVX9FO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=A1DCPNQKKEISZB
Copper wire - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00APEG9MO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Is there anything I'm missing in order to set up the system? Thank you so much!!
Amp: https://www.amazon.com/Harman-Kardon-3490-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B00198F89A
Speakers: http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/hb-1.html
Sub: https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-12-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B000092TT0
Only problem is I have a feeling the room is too small for a sub haha
Hi all. I'm looking to enhance my audio setup for my bedroom. I currently own the following :
Onkyo TX-8020 Stereo Receiver
Klipsch B20 Bookshelf speakers (Frequency Response 62Hz-23KHz ± 3dB)
Based on this setup, what would be your recommendations for enhancing my sound? I was thinking of buying this subwoofer but I'm not sure if it will make a huge difference based on the Klipsch frequencies.
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=sr_1_4?s=aht&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1468441965&amp;sr=1-4&amp;keywords=subwoofer&amp;refinements=p_72%3A1248879011
Let me know, thanks!
The reason I hesitate to recommend this is because I like to present people with a clear upgrade path (i.e. you don't throw everything away when you upgrade, you take your small fronts and make them the surrounds when you buy bigger fronts for example), but at this low of a budget so many compromises are being made that you might feel like upgrade means swapping everything (eventually).
That being said, tons people have no problem with these items and think they are amazing, so your mileage may vary. These are great, well received speakers. If you are set on 2.1, here's what I got.
Option 1:
2x Jamo S 803 ($160 for pair)
1x AVR-S540BT 5.2-Ch x 70 Watts A/V Receiver from Accessories4Less @ $200
1x Polk Audio PSW10 Subwoofer @ $130
Total: $490
Stretches the budget a bit, but will sound great. Receiver does actually support 4k, but does lack room correction. Overall this is a nice system and the Jamo's are bang-for-buck kings (and they actually look decent, come in several finishes).
Option 2:
2x Fluance Signature Series HiFi ($200 for pair)
1x AVR-S540BT 5.2-Ch x 70 Watts A/V Receiver from Accessories4Less @ $200
1x Polk Audio PSW10 Subwoofer @ $130
Total: $530
Same idea, just different speakers. Also highly regarded/well reviewed.
Option 3: Forgoes subwoofer for clearer upgrade path
2x ELAC Debut 2.0 B6.2 Bookshelf Speakers @ $300 (comes in a pair)
1x AVR-S540BT 5.2-Ch x 70 Watts A/V Receiver from Accessories4Less @ $200
Total: $500
IMO, Elac Debut 2.0s crush everything else at this price point by a significant margin and is worth missing the sub (temporarily). The upgrade path down the road is clear here: first get a sub (huge fan of the Bic Acoustech PL-200 II Subwoofer @ $300 or the RSL Speedwoofer 10s (sold out until Oct) @ $400)), then get the rest of the Elac Debut 2.0 speakers (center channel, surrounds - they even offer on walls), and finally way down the road you upgrade your receiver to something that can deliver more power, which will make you Elacs sound even better/go louder.
Let me know if you have any questions!
This: https://www.amazon.com/Polk-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer-Single/dp/B0002KVQBA is a perfect example as to why Polk is hated in HT and Audiophile communities.
This subwoofer is incapable of producing sound that doesn't detract from a home theater experience. Any type of sound during a movie that reaches below 60Hz is just turned into something that can only be described as someone slapping two pieces of wet cardboard together really fast.
You would literally have a better experience just using your built in TV speakers. Yet.... look at the reviews.
The same can be seen on a lot of Polk's cheaper speakers/subs. They are just trash and for some reason have rave reviews on mass market sites. Some of Polk's higher end speakers are OK but much better can be had for the prices. Some of their vintage gear can be OK.
I do not use a separate subwoofer with the T0 and find the bass to be quite satisfactory. I mostly listen to pop and hip hop music, and the bass is noticeable and tight. Part of this is due to the passive radiators featured on the Vanatoo speakers. Many reviews of the Vanatoo echo this sentiment that a subwoofer is not necessary.
If you do decide to get a subwoofer, some recommended subwoofer choices are the following:
Vanatoo have used the RSL Speedwoofer 10S at audio shows and praised it.
EDIT: After reading the subwoofer guide that sharkamino linked, I have removed the $90 Polk PSW10 from the list.
JBL Active Monitor - $150 Amazon Price
Read up on how powerful these budget speakers are. It's insane the quality that these suckers perform at! That said, you'd have to look into getting a subwoofer down the line but they can perform without one. A nice budget subwoofer is Polk Audio PSW10 10-Inch - $101 Amazon which is a steal at that price point. Polk's have built a solid reputation in the audiophila world and are quite the reliable little beasts.
I have one of these, got it on sale for $100 at a local store. It's powered, 100 watt (it's ample power for the driver, it rattles my windows) and 10 inch.
Excellent value IMO, but if you're looking for an audiophile level sub I'd look at more expensive stuff. It gets a little muddy in it's higher frequencies, and just worse in general if you really turn it up. You can use the built in low-pass filter to get rid of some of those higher frequencies if you want though. I turn the knob about halfway, but my bookshelf speakers have large woofers, so you may want turn it less (like 1/3).
Sounds amazing, even a cheap sub will make the system sound much better. There are lots of options under $200 from Polk, Klipsch, and Monoprice. Just make sure there are speaker level inputs like these ones:
Monoprice 60-Watt Powered Subwoofer - 8 Inch With Auto-On Function, For Studio And Home Theater https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009GUTJ34/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_yTLTDbKYN78MW
Polk Audio PSW10 10" Powered Subwoofer - Featuring High Current Amp and Low-Pass Filter | Up to 100 Watts | Big Bass at A Great Value | Easy Integration Home Theater Systems https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_zOLTDbPGCRA75
I'm using this 50w transducer, hooked to a small amp and connected to the sub output on my soundcard. I'll have a write-up posted soon with steps and parts (as soon as it's done!).
Someone lit the TSR signal, and thus I am here :P
I bought the Aura bass shakers and a Lepai LP-168HA 2.1 2 x 40-Watt Amplifier. My Bass shaker is rated for 50W, where the Lepai amp only comes with a 3A PSU, so I picked up a 6A PSU on the recommendation of someone in this subreddit, and it's been working fine (hasn't burned up or anything). I'm currently attaching it to a ford cobra seat, but just from the limited test use I've done so far, it works great. Definitely shakes my entire apartment when I turn it up.
The entire kit came out to about $90 after shipping, which I figured was a great price. I've seen someone recommend getting 4 amps and 4 transducers and mounting them on the corners of my seat, then running SimVibe to simulate each wheel independently, but I haven't tried that personally. Nor have I tried the actual brandname buttkicker, so I can't say how this solution compares. But I will say it adds a huge amount of immersion to Assetto Corsa.
EDIT: Oops, forgot the parts list:
AuraSound AST-2B-4 Pro Bass Shaker Tactile Transducer by Aura Sound - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002ZPTBI/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_VjzVtb1MV70BA
Lepai LP-168HA 2.1 2 x 40-Watt Amplifier and 1x68W Sub Output by Lepai - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0070Z87YO/ref=asc_df_B0070Z87YO3169620?smid=A385A0XNQBW8HY&amp;tag=pgmp-401-100-20&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;creative=395109&amp;creativeASIN=B0070Z87YO
12v 6a Adapter Power Supply for LCD Monitor with Power Cord by LCD AC Power Adapter - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003TUMDWG/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_tlzVtb1TKD73K?tag=viglink20241-20
This kind of tech/setup is pretty common and affordable. I don't know the buttkicker specs, but I imagine it's just overpriced due to the name and fancy-schmancy packaging:
http://www.amazon.com/AuraSound-AST-2B-4-Shaker-Tactile-Transducer/dp/B0002ZPTBI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1408110674&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=shaker+bass
http://www.amazon.com/FMOD-Crossover-Pair-Low-Pass/dp/B0006N41EM/ref=sr_1_151?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1408110849&amp;sr=8-151&amp;keywords=crossover
http://www.amazon.com/LP-2020A-Lepai-Tripath-Class-T-Amplifier/dp/B0049P6OTI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1408110904&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=lepai+2020a%2B
BAM! Done... All you need.
Suggestions:
Let's be reasonable. You probably aren't going to need 3 4K screens, so let's run with a
Before you shy away at the 60fps (which is just about the highest you'll hit on a 4k display right now) keep in mind that the only 60fps you remember is coming from a dirt cheap lcd screen. 60 fps on a 5000 color lumen laser projector is going to be epic. (sidenote, not sure about input latency. Check before you buy it!)
https://www.amazon.com/beyerdynamic-DT-1770-PRO-Headphones/dp/B0142FEWD4)
Speakers will run another $3000 easily.
Annnnnnd this might seem cheap, but don't forget your $50 transducers
Get a few of these and sprinkle 'em about!) to really amp up the action!
Anyways no matter what price point, don't forget the sound & picture quality! They make games so much more fun. Gaming on a 120hz projector + 7.1 surround system is a blast.
I have 4 shakers set up on the 4 corners of my racing rig.
This is my DIY bass shaker setup:
Amp: http://www.parts-express.com/4x100w-at-4-ohm-tk2050-class-t-digital-audio-amplifier-board--320-335
Power Supply: http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPERNIGHT-24V-DC-14-6A-350W-Regulated-Switching-Power-Supply-Transformer-/331060676334?hash=item4d14c106ee:g:hV0AAMXQjWtRKt4z
Bass Shakers: http://www.amazon.com/Reckhorn-Bs-200-Tactile-Transducer-Theater/dp/B00AMH17GC/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1425568544&amp;sr=8-5&amp;keywords=bass+shaker
Second Sound card to drive amp: http://www.amazon.com/Creative-Sound-Blaster-Audigy-SB1550/dp/B00EO6X7PG/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1402934998&amp;sr=8-8&amp;keywords=sound+card
Bass Shakers: 4 x $40
Power Supply: 1 x $24
Amp: 1 x $50
Sound card: 1 x $30
DIY Total: $264
Examples:
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/724042-My-DIY-SimVibe-racing-rig
http://www.overclock.net/t/1354257/project-log-my-diy-simvibe-racing-rig
EDIT:
Looks like the reckhorn shakers are currently unavailable on amazon. You may be able to find them elsewhere.
On amazon, These may be acceptable replacements:
https://www.amazon.com/Visaton-BS130-4-Tactile-Transducer-Shaker/dp/B0056BQMNM/ref=sr_1_19?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1544621334&amp;sr=1-19&amp;keywords=aurasound
OR
https://www.amazon.com/AuraSound-AST-2B-4-Shaker-Tactile-Transducer/dp/B0002ZPTBI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1544621334&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=aurasound
Below $400 there isn't really anything I would consider high quality unless you are building yourself. Stick with dual PB-1000 if possible.
Consider adding bass shakers, it adds LFE vibrations directly to your seating, useful for both daytime, and night when you turn the subs down. 2 per couch is plenty, and you can drive them with virtually any amp.
https://www.amazon.com/AuraSound-AST-2B-4-Shaker-Tactile-Transducer/dp/B0002ZPTBI
Pro-Tip for Nick or anybody looking to further upgrade their home entertainment experience: get a bass amp for your audio and plug some buttkickers https://www.amazon.com/AuraSound-AST-2B-4-Shaker-Tactile-Transducer/dp/B0002ZPTBI
depending on how big the amp, you might only be able to power 1. I got one for the chair by my gaming pc and it is fucking sweet and really easy to install, I wanna get a bigger one soon. When somebody shoots an awp in cs go near me its like thunder.
I use two Aura bass shakers which I attached to a 2x4 on the beams on the inside of my couch. They are wired in series to one channel of a small two channel amp.
The amp is connected to the subwoofer output of my receiver. If you have a X.1 receiver (as I do), simply attach an RCA splitter to the subwoofer output so that one can go to your actual sub and one to the bass shakers.
I love having friends and family to my apartment for the first time. I'll put on some music and they will sit on the big leather couch and without fail mention that the sound must be so loud because they "can feel the bass!" I love my bass shakers especially for Battlefield 4, I have not yet bought BF1, and action movies. If I could make a recommendation: buy a proper subwoofer amp for the shakers. Usually these amps have a built-in EQ or a crossover so you can dial in exactly what frequencies you want the shakers to react to.
Totally worth doing this mod, it makes everything more immersive. 25watts is PLENTY for a computer chair, I know that sounds low but trust me its FINE. If anything I want to add more smaller ones for a stereo vibrating sound.
As someone who has done this multiple times (not building a transducer but installed them) I would recommend getting a higher quality amp, specificly a plate amp. I know they cost a little more but they add so much more quality.
Amp for transducer: $43
Cheap transducer 25 watts: $25 (take apart and use the transducer in the backpack)
Nicer Transducer 50watts: $52
DONT BUY THIS AMP - the sound is awful and is no where near the stated 68watts, also the low pass things dont work at all on this.
That equals out to about £1500. I know you said a clutch isn't required, but as far as I know you can't get a Fanatec pedal set without a clutch but with a load cell brake, and if you're spending this much you're going to want a load cell. And to be honest, having a clutch and a H-shifter is useful if you ever want to drive something that needs them (Group C cars, for example).
Here's the 100 dollar version I did myself. Really works and if you wanted an insane amount of vibration more than you can get from a boxed consumer kit just keep adding bass shakers and upgrade the amp.
http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-sa70-70w-subwoofer-plate-amplifier--300-784
http://www.amazon.com/AuraSound-AST-2B-4-Shaker-Tactile-Transducer/dp/B0002ZPTBI
Good luck, I lived in a old factory. Low frequency noise traveled well, and the neighbors loved their base. I mounted one of these with a amp. Set it to play MLK speeches. If you cant beat them join them.
These general consensus is these are going to be a better bang for your buck.
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-FS52-Designed-standing-Loudspeaker/dp/B008NCD2S4
https://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-S510BT-Channel-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B00YAO43YG/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1484676180&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=denon+receiver
As far as sub goes. These cheaper reccomended are:
https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SUB-1000-10-Inch-Subwoofer/dp/B0063NU3AA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1484676249&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=dayton+audio+sub-1000
https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1484676267&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=bic+america+f12
or my personal favorite:
https://www.outlawaudio.com/products/m8.html
There are other brand like Chane and HSU that get great reviews as well for speaker/subs.
Yamaha RX-V583 was $500 bucks
Fluance Signature Hi-Fi Towers $700
Fluance Signature Hi-Fi surrounds $250
Fluance Signature Hi-Fi center $150
BIC America 475w sub $160 when I bought it.
I originally had a Vizio 55" 1080p TV back in the day that I used with this that was around a thousand. I upgraded to a Sony 65" 4k, that I have since moved to a different room, and am currently using a Sony X900E 65".
Before I went with the higher end Fluance stuff, I went with their $250 surround in a box, and it was still light years ahead of going to the theaters. It was also drastically cheaper. I helped set up a buddy, and for the sound without the TV, he went with the $250 speakers, same sub for $200, and an entry level Yamaha 5.1 that was on sale for $300 and absolutely loves it. $750 for something that will blow away those little HTIB away.
I have a BIC F12 under my computer desk and I'm real happy with it. It's not up to filling a living room with deep bass at high SPLs, but it provides plenty of clean low bass in a desktop setup. It extends much lower than the little Dayton or most smaller inexpensive subs. For a few years now, these have earned a reputation of being a "go to" low budget subwoofer. It's big, but I still have room under the desk for my computer tower, waste basket, paper shredder, and feet.
Since you didn't list a price range, I'll assume you either have infinite money or are on a tight budget.
If it's the former, get the JL Audio Gotham for $12,000.
If the latter, the Big America F12 is $200: http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M
Well, first of all, a lot of these products are listed at way over their actual market value because you are linking to the manufacturer website.
The BIC F12 can be had here for $200 with free shipping. Also, I think people normally recommend the F12 over any Polk sub.
I would probably avoid Klipsch if you are worried about bright/fatiguing speakers. Klipsch are know to sound harsh to some people. Polk is a very well regarded brand as a start into home theater, and many people are content with them and don't feel the need to ever upgrade. That being said, I would check out Newegg's prices for something like the Polk 75T but the TSi series is also good (from what I hear). Someone may have better advice within the Polk lineup which would be the best choice, but if you can go listen to them at Best Buy or something, that may make your decision a lot easier!
Are you planning to use Surrounds? I can't help but feel surrounds would be a little awkward in your room. I'd recommend a 3.0 or 3.1 system. Here's some equipment to start taking a look at.
Speakers:
I've only heard the Hsu's and the Pioneers in person. Without going in to detail, I reccomend them both. If you're not a demanding listener, save the money and go with the Pioneers. If you are, I think the Hsu's are worth the extra cost. I haven't heard the HTD's but they might just be the right solution for you based on form factor.
Subwoofers:
That's basically the sub I would recommend at each one of those price points.
Receivers
I'm personally not a good source to reccomend receivers... just pick a 5.1 by a brand you like and at the price you can afford. Personally I've worked with Denon's and found nothing to complain about with them.
With your budget, if you don't want to go modular and add the pieces as you go along and get a 5.1 right away, think this seems like a decent package that you'll be very happy with for a good couple of years:
These Pionneer towers x2
And the surrounds
And center that go with the set
This sub seems very well liked around here
The amp you mentionned (I have had RX-V657 for years, very good) is also very good an will be plenty
rest on cables and stuff if you need, go to http://www.monoprice.com
All that should come in around your budget!
Cheers and have fun!
I just did all this work to show someone my computer which I named "Maelstrom". It wasn't exactly "unlimited" money but it's pretty damn close. I actually built it though.
Honestly, I spent so much time gathering the links to share with someone I need to post it more than once :P
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Online Picasa album for photos of the computer and my setup can be found HERE. It's changed a bit since some of these pictures. I still haven't added pictures since I re-cabled a few areas and finished off some sleeving.
Save money, get better sub later.
This would be an excellent choice - RSL Speedwoofer
As would new (or used) subwoofer from REL, SVS, HSU, Rythmik, or Velodyne. Good bass is worth throwing good money at.
If you simply cannot wait, try to save up for a BIC F12 or PL200 (both slightly over $200)... probably the best, new, "budget" subs that can be recommended.
But try to save up for a better sub - those Kantos and your ears deserve better.
Under no circumstances go with Polk subwoofers.
Or another option is BIC America F12 12-Inch 475-Watt Front Firing Powered Subwoofer
This center is what you want.
For a sub the Bic F12 is a popular entry level sub at that price point.
Go with that for now, and then save up for a better front L,R,C and you can move all the Pioneer bookshelfs to surrounds and rears.
If you're willing to go $11 over your budget, then get this.
Movies, music, or both? If you've got room for a sub anyway, you could consider the smaller Q150 / Q100 and pair it with a sub. Also wouldn't buy the Klipsch sub unless you're getting a deal on it, BIC F12 costs slightly more and is much better.
I think you can do better than the monoprice for a $1000 budget.
Front L/R ($220): http://www.htd.com/Products/level-two-speakers/Level-TWO-Bookshelf-Speakers
Center ($140): http://www.htd.com/Products/level-two-speakers/Level-TWO-Center-Channel-Speaker
Surrounds ($100): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0018QNYVM/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B0018QNYVM&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=wwwpuresimula-20
Subwoofer ($185): http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1413988027&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=bic+f12+subwoofer
Receiver ($135): http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavr1513/denon-avr-1513-5.1ch-home-theater-receiver-3d-ready/1.html
Grand total: $780. Just one possible build.
Also, if you want HTIB...this one is better than the monoprices: http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/focalsib51blk/focal-sib-cub3-home-theater-speaker-system-black/1.html
The biggest issue I have with both the Focals and the monoprices is the sub.
Hello,
I'm looking into replacing my Psw505 with a sub that hits deeper. My Psw505 can rattle the walls but it lacks punch. Looking around I found these two options in my price range,
Svs PB-1000 - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K88UMPW/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=AKR88PAWTQVN2&psc=1
Svs PB-2000 - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I985V4U/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_2?smid=A2H3DYB5PUVNNI&psc=1
Both of these subs should have more punch then the Psw505 from what I've read.
I posted a picture of the room I'll be using the sub in. The room dimensions are 14'x11' usable space. My Psw505 is located on the left side of the room, not pictured. My main usage is movies/netflix 85%, gaming 10%, music 5%.
Are the subs I linked good options for what I want? Are there other options worth considering?
Thanks,
Can you guys look this over and make sure I have something worth buying? I have about $1000 to spend on a 2.1 setup for a computer desktop setup.
KEF Q150 Bookshelf Speakers
SMSL AD18 HiFi Audio Stereo Amplifier
Then finally one of these three.
Klipsch R-100SW 10" Subwoofer
Klipsch R-120SW 10" Subwoofer
or
Klipsch Reference R-10SW 10" 300w Powered Subwoofer
Also would I need to buy the speaker wires to set these up or do they come with wire?
If you haven't bought the F12 yet, the BIC PL-200 is on sale for $250!
I really like my Bic PL 200
https://www.amazon.com/Bic-Acoustech-PL-200-Subwoofer-Black/dp/B00OFXV5IO
Is there room on the sides of the TV for speakers? Ideally they would be a couple feet to either side of the TV.
You probably just want to go with a 3.1 system, because the placement of the surrounds will be so wonky with a corner L-shaped couch and a corner TV that I don't think it would be worth it. You could do in-ceiling speakers, and do a 3.1.2 system though. https://www.dolby.com/us/en/guide/speaker-setup-guides/3.1.2-overhead-speakers-setup-guide.html
For $1,000 3.1.2 system I would get this:
Receiver - $300 (doesn't have eARC, but you probably don't need it)
Front L/R speakers - $200
Front center - $170
in-ceiling speakers - $80
Subwoofer - $250
If cutting holes into your ceiling to install speakers and run wiring is a daunting task, then just do a 3.1 system and you can spend more on the subwoofer. If you can push your budget this very high quality SVS PB-1000 subwoofer goes on sale on the outlet site for $400 several times a year, I imagine it will during labor day subwoofer option 2 - $400. It will be infinitely better than the $250 one linked above.
The basics setup could be a mini amp connected via bluetooth or a 3.5mm to RCA cable to your Echo, passive bookshelf speakers and an active subwoofer:
$30-$40 for a chinese mini amp (Douk Audio, Nobsound, SMSL etc.) or a little more if you want Bluetooth
$80 for a budget active subwoofer (this one for example) with high level inputs so that you can connect to to the speakers
This leaves about $180 for the part that contributes most to the overall sound quality, the bookshelf speakers. Here I would go through the reviews and find the ones that have sound characteristics that match your preferences best. Because you only need passive speakers, you have a lot of options and you can browse craigslist and eBay for good deals on used ones.
$1000 for Both ?
Rsl Speedwoofer $399
https://rslspeakers.com/speedwoofer10s/
or SVS SB-1000 $499
https://www.amazon.com/SVS-SB-1000-Subwoofer-Black-Ash/dp/B00AF88C0M/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=svs+subwoofer&qid=1563338176&s=gateway&sr=8-3
Denon AVR-X3500H $549
https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrx3500h/denon-avr-x3500h-7.2-ch-x-105-watts-a/v-receiver-w/heos/1.html
$1000 isn't much to work with, but you can still get a decent setup.
Receiver: Denon 530
Towers: Bic PL-89
Matching center
Sub
Total comes to $1069, but I don't think you will have any complaints about this setup.
If you really want to go cheap, get some Polk Monitor 70s which I routinely see on sale for $170-180, a matching center from Crutchfield's scratch and dent for about $70 with the same sub and receiver.
Whatever you do, have some patience and just wait until Black Friday. Last year Best Buy had Polk and Klipsch stuff on sale for 50% off. You might be able to snag some Polk Signature S55s or Klipsch Reference series for cheap.
Monoprice has two small 8" subs -
a really cheap $60 USD sub
...and
a better quality "premium" sub for $90 USD
Klipsch has a little 8" sub too - I grabbed one when a local store (Frys) had it on promo code sale for $118 - but that may be hard to find at that price where you are.
You can find others around - Massdrop has the 8" and 10" Pioneer / Andrew Jones subs on sale right now for $90 & $190 respectively
Amazon has the Elac S8 "debut" sub for $150 - don't know if thats the best deal or not.
Amazon also has the JBL Arena S10 (10") sub for $109 - this sells for $199-$299 most places.
Parts-Express has Dayton & BIC
https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-sub-800-8-80-watt-powered-subwoofer--300-627
https://www.parts-express.com/bic-v-80-8-subwoofer-100-watts--303-460
Keep in mind, some of these don't have high level speaker inputs
Frys often has good sales on Jamo speakers, but I'm not sure what's available in Europe. I've seen the S809 HCS 5 speaker set go as low as $399, so maybe you could get a good black Friday deal. The 803 set with bookshelf speakers is $269 right now, might be a decent option.
The Pioneer AJ set got some good initial reviews as a solid budget set, but I have seen some people complaining about it online after getting the set. The center channel in particular seems to be pretty lackluster based on user feedback.
The Sony Core series speakers get good reviews as a budget option. I've seen the bookshelf SSCS5 speakers go as low as $73 a pair and with black Friday coming up there might be some good deals on them.
For a decent sub you'll probably need to up your budget a little bit or wait until you can save a little more. The Bic PL200ii is a good sub for the price and often goes on sale for $250.
With black Friday deals maybe you could get the Jamo 803 set with a PL200ii sub within your budget or 4 Sony core bookshelf speakers and the matching SSCS8 center channel instead of the Jamos.
Receivers/Amps:
I suggest you get the SMSL AD18 amp for desktop use as it is compact and sized perfectly for a desk. It has a stereo amplifier, DAC, and headphone amplifier in one as well as bluetooth. Link: https://www.amazon.com/SMSL-AD18-Amplifier-Bluetooth-Subwoofer/dp/B071JN7GXN
If you don't want a headphone amplifier or Bluetooth, get something like the Micca Origain. It's just a stereo amplifier with a DAC. Link: https://www.amazon.com/Micca-OriGain-Compact-Integrated-Amplifier/dp/B01LXV4O6B
If you want a 5.1 system down the road for surround sound on your PC, you can get this: https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrs540bt/denon-avr-s540bt-5.2-ch-x-70-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html
If you like the idea of a full sized stereo receiver and don't want all the bells and whistles of an AV receiver, this receiver should work well for your needs:
https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/yamrs202bl/yamaha-r-s202-2-ch-x-100-watts-natural-sound-stereo-receiver/1.html
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Subwoofer:
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Dayton SUB-1000 - $109($99 with $10 off coupon code BF10)
https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-sub-1000-10-100-watt-powered-subwoofer--300-628
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Dayton SUB-1200 - $138($128 with $10 off coupon code BF10)
https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-sub-1200-12-120-watt-powered-subwoofer--300-629
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BIC Acoustech PL-200 II - $250
https://www.amazon.com/Bic-Acoustech-PL-200-II-Subwoofer/dp/B074131NKS
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Klipsch R120SW - $224(On sale for black friday. Normally $400+)
https://www.klipsch.com/products/r-120sw-subwoofer
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Polk Audio PSW505 12-Inch Powered Subwoofer (Single, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000092TT0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_mk92Bb24WHZNX
I don't know if they're still available but a while ago I got a Polk PSW505 which is now discontinued. They used to sell for $5-600 but after they were discontinued, they were still being sold new-in-box for $199. I got one at that price and it's pretty damn nice, it won't play low enough to handle m.A.A.d city but it's about as good of a sub as you can get at that price.
Just checked, Amazon still has them: http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-12-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B000092TT0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1381375448&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=psw505
I would also look into this: http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1381375448&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=psw505
and this: http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SUB-1200-12-Inch-Subwoofer/dp/B00669L3HS/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1381375448&amp;sr=8-13&amp;keywords=psw505
Sub https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000092TT0/ref=psdc_172568_t2_B000P0528K
Speakers
https://www.amazon.com/Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Andrew-Jones/dp/B014GSEQ06/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1482250876&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=elac+b6
Amp
https://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-A-9010-Integrated-Stereo-Amplifier/dp/B00SY20TE8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1482250953&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=onkyo+tx-8020
I put some more time into researching a solution for you:
Explanation:
There are a wide variety of quality active monitors for $149.99. I don't have experience with the Mackie's myself, but it is a trusted brand, and they are well reviewed.
Finding a good subwoofer in this price bracket is very challenging. You already have a halfway decent sub with your Logitech system, so I needed to find something that would be worth the upgrade. Many subs in this price range have under powered amplifiers, or use misleading marketing to make them seem better than they are.
Polk makes quality products, I used to own an entire Polk home theater system. The Polk sub offers a large 12" driver (important for hitting low bass, which is the whole point). It is capable of playing without distortion at lower frequencies than just about everything in it's class, and it has a more powerful amplifier than most other subs in it's class.
For budget subs (< $500) you have a quite a few popular choices:
I'd highly recommend upgrading a better sub in the $500 .. $800 range:
Edit: Added SVS Cylinder sub link
Audioengine A2
Audioengine A5+
Polk Subwoofer
FiiP Digital-analog-converter
These are just a few of the entry level options. Don't take my word for it. I don't own any of these items. I just see them pop up from time to time as good entry-level options. Both pairs of speakers I posted are powered, meaning they have amplification built in. They wont require an external amplifier. Another option is to buy a pair of passive speakers, like these, and buy a basic receiver, like this, to power them.
Again, these are just some EXAMPLES. I am not recommending any of these items specifically, as I have not heard them. I am suggesting that you do some research and figure out what works best for your needs and budget.
You'll notice I also posted a subwoofer and DAC (digital-analog-converter). The subwoofer is going to allow you to hear the lower frequencies that those small speakers wont reach, which you might find necessary if you like drums. The external DAC will allow you to bypass the shitty DAC in your current source (a laptop, I'm assuming?). You'll be able to send a digital signal out of your source (provided it has a digital output) to the DAC where it will be converted to the analog signal that will go to the amplifier. It isn't necessary, but it will improve sound quality since the shitty DAC in your laptop or computer will be bypassed.
the receiver
the towers
the center channel
the sub
I looked up the specs on the Philips website, and am 99% sure you can do exactly what you suggest to get the speakers working. However, the subwoofer will be a problem, since it's a passive model (meaning it doesn't use an internal amplifier, instead relying on one built into the receiver). High-quality separate components expect the subwoofer to be self-amplified, so there won't be any way to plug that into a new receiver.
There are a few ways around this. You could add an external amp to the subwoofer - either a car audio amp, or a subwoofer plate amplifier (which could even be built into the existing box, if you're handy). But the easiest is to just buy a different sub. The Philips sub is an 8" model that only goes down to 40 Hz - essentially the bare minimum you can call a subwoofer without laughing yourself to death. You can buy a better sub for less money than you can get that one working:
As a bare minimum, the Polk PSW10 will work in a normal home theater setup and will be at least an equal to what you have. All of the reviews of this sub are pretty negative, but the main complaint against it is a lot of wind noise through the port at higher volume - this can be corrected in two minutes with a screwdriver. Just take the amp off the back, remove a little stamped steel grill from the inside end of the port, and put the amp back. With that change it becomes an incredibly good value for a basic system.
For a tiny bit more money, the Dayton SUB1000 has a better reputation and is supposed to reach a bit lower. I've never heard one, but I'm not sure it's worth the extra over the Polk, because you'd be better off saving up for...
The BIC America H-100II is a tremendous step up over either of those two. It's still cheap for a subwoofer (if you do some research you'll quickly find this is one of those "off the deep end" things, and you can spend used-car money on subs), but it's somewhat more powerful and covers a much wider range than anything cheaper.
Now, if you feel like dropping some money into home theater stuff and want to get seriously good equipment, I'd be tempted to offer some additional suggestions. But if you just want to get back up and running without spending a ton of money, and maybe get a bit of an upgrade along the way, those three are good options.
Budget around $600
Type 5.1 surround sound
Setup Desktop PC
Uses gaming, watching movies, or listening to music
Room dimensions not quite sure. About 10' by 12'
Idea #1
Center speaker: Pioneer SP-C22 Andrew Jones Designed Center Channel Speaker
Front/Rear speakers: Pioneer SP-BS22-LR Andrew Jones Designed Bookshelf Loudspeakers
Subwoofer: Polk Audio PSW10 10-Inch Monitor Series Powered Subwoofer
Idea #2
Energy 5.1 Take Classic Home Theater System
Specs:
My mother board: MSI Z87-G43
My graphics card: EVGA gtx760
Running windows 7 home premium
Questions:
What I would like:
edit: formatting
Here's what I would do to get a great sound system that will work for your ipod. This is much better than any ipod dock, but is not very portable.
The total is over $300 but will be much better than the bose system. You could find cheaper bookshelf speakers that will work too.
You need a sub with a speaker level input. I think you already know this, but that system is so weak that you don't want to get "too much" sub. Unless you are interested in audio and want to upgrade to a better system later, this is as far as I would go. I feel that if you went with a bigger sub, you would forget the rest of the system is there.
If it were me, I would look for a new receiver before I would worry about a sub. You will always be limited to a subpar experience with what you have.
It depends on room size mostly. Something as simple and inexpensive as
http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-10-Inch-Monitor-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1324297410&amp;sr=1-3
would work for a bedroom. It has less power than the S8 but enough to match the A5+.
So I am an up-and-coming Home Theater installer and recently got myself my first decent home theater setup. This is leaps and bounds better that what I had before (a 32" and a soundbar), which is now my bedroom setup. I am very happy with this setup and enjoy it almost daily.
My current configuration includes the following:
92" Pull Down Screen
Epson 2030 1080p 3D Projector (ISF Calibrated)
Polk Audio TL250 + Polk Audio PSW10 Sub
Yamaha RX-V477
Samsung BD-F5900
Chromecast
With some vendor deals and discounts, I was able to get this entire setup for just shy of $1500.
So my question is, how did I do? Could I have done better within this budget? Are there any components to this system that stand out as poor choices? Are there any cost effective ways to help control the levels of light in the room? When I move into a house in about 5 years, which components should I upgrade?
Thanks in advance for your input.
Not sure why you would want the l/r and the center, other than it's a good deal. Are you hoping to fill it out to 5.1 eventually?
I've never heard Fluance, but the go-to recommendations around here are one of these two Pioneer speakers, or the Miccas. Search this sub to look for reviews (and double check the model numbers if you're interested. I'm doing this from memory). If you get the Pioneers you should be able to afford the subwoofer that goes with it. Also, you can usually find a Polk sub like this one on sale.
There are better options, I'm sure, but these get a lot of recommendations for budget systems. I have a brother in law with the Pioneers and no sub and he's pretty happy.
As for hooking it up, you just need a 3.5mm to RCA jack cable like this one. Also, if your receiver has an s/pdif input you could go from the sound card to the receiver that way. If you use the first cable, the sound card will be decoding the digital into analog. If you use the s/pdif cable, your receiver will do the decoding. Depending on the DACs in the card and receiver, one might be better than the other.
http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-E300-Channel-Networking-Receiver/dp/B00B7X2OV2/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1408791963&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=5.1-Channel
Denon-AVR-E300
3d, five hdmi inputs, $249.99. this is as cheap as I would go for the AVR. it has Audyssey, an automatic speaker calibration system - which you'll find very impressive down the line.
If I were you, I'd invest in one nice center channel speaker and a halfway decent powered woofer (center and woofer do a vast portion of the heavy lifting apparently).
http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-Reference-Center-Channel-Loudspeaker/dp/B0040QW7PG/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1408792380&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=Klipsch+RC-62+II
Klipsch RC-62 II Center Speaker
$399
you wont need to upgrade from this for a very long time.
if you want to save $50 bucks, you can go with the RC-52 instead of the rc-62.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002KVQBA/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
Polk Audio PSW10 10-Inch Powered Subwoofer
Price: $101.98
a powered subwoofer keeps your AVR from having to work its ass off.
then I'd try to find some cheap surround and left/right speakers from goodwill or something that I wouldn't mind throwing away as more money becomes available and you decide to uprgrade.
So this is the current state of my listening setup, it's definitely not the usual around here so I figured I'd take a minute to do a little gear overview and review.
So overall there you have it, I built this entire setup for $530 or so with a bit of patience and some work on my end. I use it mostly for listening to either vinyl or digital. Right now it's almost 100% vinyl, but it also works great for watching TV or movies.
I definitely suggest a similar setup for anyone looking to get into the hobby for a reasonable price but without needing to upgrade after just a year of use. It's capable of everything I've thrown at it from listening to gaming, and never skips a beat.
I will likely upgrade the speakers and eliminate the sub at some point in the future, but for the time being this is a fantastic setup for the space that I have.
Ask any questions you may have and I'll see what I can do to fill you in.
So hypothetically, would something like this work for that?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_--I3AbT7F7G5V
Lepai LP-168HA 2.1 2 x 40-Watt Amplifier and 1x68W Sub Output https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0070Z87YO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_6qmgzbWC487DC amp to power the speakers and easy to transport. https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-b652-air-6-1-2-2-way-bookshelf-speaker-with-amt-tweeter-pair--300-651?utm_source=google&amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;utm_campaign=pla affordable speakers that punch above their price. Polk Audio PSW10 10-Inch Powered Subwoofer (Single, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_5rmgzbW2A60XF and an affordable subwoofer. Run speaker wire to connect speakers to amp. Not sure what your media source is though.
I’m looking to upgrade from this Polk Sub, would this be a nice upgrade or about the same
I currently have the Klipsch R26 towers with R25 center
my Sub
For beginning, I always just recommend an entry-level Denon AVR and 2 Polk speakers. It's good enough that it will be a million miles ahead of a truly cheap setup, and if you ever want to upgrade to nicer thing you'll have no problems just swapping things out. Polk is pretty mainstream and budget friendly, and Denon is also pretty mainstream and has a nice room-correction/calibration thing that they do called Audyssey.
AVR could be anything basically like this: https://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVRS530BT-Channel-Ultra-Receiver/dp/B06XYD1RZ3
And for speakers: https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-TSi200-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B0018QROCC/
And for subwoofer: https://www.amazon.com/Polk-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer-Single/dp/B0002KVQBA
For an AVR you'll be spending around or just north of $200. And for a pair of front speakers, I think you'd spend around or just north of $200 for the pair, too. You can also get some kind of really cheap nightstand tables to hold the speakers up, or go more expensive and get taller floor standing speakers. Just like how you want a TV to be roughly eye level, it's good to heave the tweeters of your speakers at roughly ear level.
You can go WAY nicer than all of this, but I am assuming you're pretty budget conscious and would rather just get something that sounds massively great compared to just using TV speakers or a soundbar, and you're not ready to spend a grand or more on audio to approach the really fancy levels.
Exactly. A proper stereo is the solution here. Use a decent amp and speakers for the audio and pair it with an Echo Dot to control it, using the line out jack on the Dot to connect it to the amp.
If /u/Treas0n is looking for a good budget option, I'd highly recommend the Lepai amp + Dayton speaker setup. This setup is the go-to budget kit on /r/audiophile and would be plenty loud with really good sound quality. It's about $90 for the whole kit (+$30-$50 for an Echo Dot):
Lepai LP-2020TI Texas Instruments TPA3118 Hi-Fi Stereo Audio Mini Amplifier with Power Supplyhttps://www.amazon.com/dp/B071FJF4FF/(don't go for this one anymore, grab a tripath version)Kinter K2020A+ Limited Edition ORIGINAL Tripath TA2020-020 Class-T Hi-Fi Audio Mini Amplifier with 12V 5A Power Supply Black https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077Z7DBRT
Dayton Audio B652-AIR 6-1/2" 2-Way Bookshelf Speaker with AMT Tweeter Pair https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NOA58RS/
AmazonBasics 16-Gauge Speaker Wire - 50 Feet https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006LW0WDQ/
Monoprice 105597 3-Feet Premium Stereo Male to 2RCA Male 22AWG Cable - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0094A1F3S/
If the OP wants even bigger sound then add a powered sub for $100 more (you may want to double up on your 16ga speaker wire for connecting the subwoofer between the stereo speakers and the amp)
Polk Audio PSW10 10-Inch Powered Subwoofer (Single, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_IEFWBbD0GFQVW
This one should be ok.
http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1458966105&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=polk+subwoofer+psw10
I hate that they don't show the back side, but I found you a pic of it and it has two ways of connecting it. Yours will be the RCA method I mentioned earlier.
http://s16.postimg.org/9k2ppa3xx/2016_03_26_00_23_02.jpg
Nevermind, I can post several links obviously
Indoor Outdoor Projector Screen,... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F1VLRZ6?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
J-Tech Digital Ultra HD 4K HDMI to HDMI + Audio (Spdif + RCA Stereo) Audio Extractor Converter(Support Apple TV 4 Gen) Premium Quality https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YHS5E6Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_G8ZdIxDbFbxhh
VANKYO Leisure 510 Full HD Projector with 3600 Lux, Video Projector with 200" Projection Size, Support 1080P HDMI VGA AV USB with Free HDMI Cable and Carrying Bag https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G2Y5LX9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_MxYBCbDMFNHW7
Jeteven Polyester Hanging... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075WWRRZV?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
AUKEY Table Lamp, Touch Sensor... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AJ7F14I?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Mini Dj Disco Ball Party Stage... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074RKPSDK?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Sennheiser HD 579 Open Back... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01L1IIF1K?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Flash Furniture High Back Black... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B012JJ2EEY?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
P3 P4330 Kill A Watt Ps 10 Surge... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004OG94VW?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
LG 29WK600-W 29" UltraWide 21:9... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078GL93KG?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Onkyo TX-SR373 5.2 Channel A/V Receiver with Bluetooth https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XVGCBZ4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_kCYBCbJTN8QJ1
Polk Audio T15 100 Watt Home Theater Bookshelf Speakers (Pair) - Premium Sound at a Great Value | Dolby and DTS Surround | Wall-Mountable https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002RJLHB8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_OCYBCbX2TX5XM
Polk Audio PSW10 10" Powered Subwoofer - Featuring High Current Amp and Low-Pass Filter | Up to 100 Watts | Big Bass at a Great Value | Easy integration Home Theater Systems https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_mDYBCbWN7VD6T
TCL 43S425 43 Inch 4K Ultra HD Smart Roku LED TV (2018) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DK5PZFY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_3DYBCbZ7TGJ9X
Plus an Asus rog laptop gtx 1060 16gb ram, two ps3s, Corsair hs60 headphones, vmoda Crossfade wireless, a Google chromecast
After several months and hundreds of dollars I think I'm complete!
Turntable:
Kenwood KD-40R. One day I asked my dad if he had a turntable and this is what started it all. We found it in the attic, original box and in great shape. Replaced the needle and I was good to go. (Minus not having anything else, of course)
Speakers:
Sub:
Stands:
Receiver (hidden behind tv):
Cables:
Preamp:
Considering your other gear, Polk Audio PSW10 10-Inch Powered Subwoofer (Single, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_V.6EwbRZA2XX1
The system gets plenty loud to feel the walls vibrate and fill up the house if I so desire, but I rarely push it. It's great for movies. Edit: forgot to mention that everything comes from my Laptop -> receiver via HDMI.
Fronts: $40
Center: $30
Sub: $80
Rears: $50
Receiver:$40
Total: $240.
My main fronts are Bose Model 31's from the mid 90's. They are front ported with 8" drivers and 3" tweeters. They were absolutely falling apart when my uncle gave em to me so I replaced the woofers with some newer rubber surround ones. They sound surprisingly good for what they are, but the crossover doesn't match the woofer exactly. I've had these things for a long time. $40 for replacement speakers.
The center is this Sony model I picked up from a cousin of mine for $30 when he upgraded. It matches the fronts better than I thought it would, much better than my old center.
I picked up a Cheap Polk Sub last year and it's the only purchase I regret, looking for a replacement. $80.
My rears are Micca MB42's I picked up from Amazon, pretty solid little bookshelf speakers. I spent about $50 on them.
The Receiver is a Denon Avr-791 I got from the same cousin for $40. He was going to just give it to me but he needed the money. One of the HDMI inputs went bad on him and he replaced it with a newer model, this one was collecting dust and now it works perfect for me (minus one input).
I do most of my serious music listening with my Philips shp9500 or Logitech UE6000 headphones.
I would buy 2 active speakers and possibly a sub. Here's an example: 2x Behringer Truth B1030a and Polk Audio PSW10
I would say the Denon 1612, but it only has 4 HDMI inputs. If you think you can get by with this many go for it. This is the receiver I personally have, and I think it is absolutely great. The setup is as simple as possible, really hard to mess up. If you really NEED more inputs, I would take a look at the Marantz NR1403. Both of these have auto setup and can be expanded up to 5.1.
As for speakers, we would need to know a bit more about your room, such as how large it is and how far you will be sitting from the tv. If it is a bigger room, I would probably suggest these Polks, or if you go with the Denon I linked, Magnepan MMGs. If it is a smaller room, I would go with a pair of PSB Image B4s. I absolutely love how those little guys sound.
I would not recommend a subwoofer at this price point, UNLESS you go with the Denon and PSBs. In that case I would probably just go for something like this simple Polk model.
As for the dialogue being clear, most receivers will have presets to increase dialogue volumes. Any other questions and we'll be happy to help.
5.1 surround sound with a HDR/4k Passthrough receiver. I'd say bare bones about $650 or so for the lowest end gear.
EDIT: Quick throw together here. Would work well though. A little over budget, but probably worth it
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Monitor-Floorstanding-Speaker/dp/B006QL0XXQ/ref=lp_3236453011_1_12?s=aht&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1482959814&amp;sr=1-12
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Center-Channel-Speaker/dp/B0018QROM2/ref=sr_1_2?s=aht&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1482960146&amp;sr=1-2
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-T15-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B002RJLHB8/ref=sr_1_1?s=aht&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1482959871&amp;sr=1-1&amp;refinements=p_89%3APolk+Audio
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002KVQBA/ref=s9_acsd_top_hd_bw_bitM_c_x_1_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-8&amp;pf_rd_r=DAXEP2BDFVM1W8SMJQBM&amp;pf_rd_t=101&amp;pf_rd_p=6fc71d99-5362-526e-b48e-9a05897aee91&amp;pf_rd_i=172568
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/yamrxv381/yamaha-rx-v381-5.1-ch-x-70-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html
I have a pair of M-Audio AV40s and a Polk Audio PSW10 for my setup and they sound great as long as the room isn't enormous and you aren't planning on using them to fill an entire room with sound (speakers seem to be more directional). I managed to snag both sets of speakers for less than $100 each. Neither of them require an amplifier, so it makes them more convenient for a computer setup.
dude... i'm in the same boat. i've been eyeing this one for a while now, specifically because it's cheap (90$), supposed to be good quality (Polk is a respectable brand), and I can hook it up with my existing bookshelf speakers.
that said, I haven't heard it yet so I can't vouch.. but, soon!
I went with Polk Audio setup. T15 bookshelf speakers, PSW10 sub (thing is a beast), throw in a Lepy LP-2020A-3A amplifier, and a AUX switch to go back and forth between the speakers and headphones and BAM that is the audio setup.
For starting out, Vanatoo T-Zero’s. They’re powered speakers with a remote, and a sub out. Great for the desk.
https://vanatoo.com/shop/speakers/transparent-zero/
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0002KVQBA/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1572952031&amp;sr=1-1&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=51JGYWW4N4L&amp;ref=plSrch
Jamo S801’s with their powered sub are also excellent.
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_701S801PMB/Jamo-S-801-PM-Black.html
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_701S808SWB/Jamo-S-808-SUB-Black.html
Polk Audio PSW 10" powered sub for $99 on Amazon.com
Newegg.com is sold out(lol@"was: $249.99" when Amazon has it for $99), also hundreds of great reviews. You can take a look at what they have in stock.
Converting analog audio cables to different terminators is fairly straight forward... try Newegg.com. I'm sure Monoprice.com has some, too.
Hey there, the sub is the PS-W10 and I looks like they are running the T-50’s a bit cheaper on amazon, only $74/each. As for the receiver I can tell you I’ve had Sony before this that was just fine but this Denon really brought out the life in these. I really don’t have a definitive recommendation in that area. But I am certain you will love this setup for the price, enjoy!
I got this combo myself, attached it to a playseat evolution alcantara.
Aura Bass Transducer
Dayton Audio SA100 Subwoofer Amp
Here's the whole setup, waiting on the DK2:
http://imgur.com/IH8o68Y
Well a different solution for your problem is the subpac which I have seen people say favorable things about on this sub.
You could also turn the subwoofer down and add a tactile transducer which you can attach to your chair and it will provide bass feel.
NP, only saw this now. Here’s the kit I use:
Here is a really nice setup guide for SimHub.
I wanted to buy a bigger shaker like this AuraAudio originally but it went out of stock just as I was about to place my order, and I was impatient :-) In hindsight, the pedal shakers are just right but I could have used a bit more kick under my seat. YMMV! I figure I’ll add more channels and more powerful effects in the future, and I’ll move the smaller pucks to shifter / steering column duty.
You’ll probably also need 2x 3.5mm stereo jack to 2x RCA out cables to connect the amps to your computer, and some speaker wire to connect the speakers to the amps. 16awg copper wire will do fine, I had 12awg left from my HT setup.
You might want to get an extra sound card depending on whether you have enough available audio channels. I run my shakers off the onboard analog outputs and my sim audio via my Rift headset, so didn’t need to buy anything extra. I under up buying a usb audio adapter later so I can run speakers or headphones separately, but you don’t strictly need that.
Hope this helps! All in all this has added a whole new layer of immersion to my (otherwise fairly standard) setup and diy rig.
I've been looking into it, trying to put together an affordable plan. Looks like a way to go is to use a dedicated chair(I'm mostly interested in this for driving/space flight games)and attach a few "bass shakers" to it. I've been checking out a couple of brands; Aura and Dayton. Aura seems to be the better reviewed brand of the 2.
https://www.amazon.com/AuraSound-AST-2B-4-Shaker-Tactile-Transducer/dp/B0002ZPTBI/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1537476183&amp;sr=8-1&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&amp;keywords=bass+shakers&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=51AwH10wpSL&amp;ref=plSrch
I'm really hoping to start putting together a steering wheel/hotas/haptics combo before the end of the year.
You can use a Buttkicker for $170 or this for $87 (you want the items listed in the "frequently bought together" section). The one person that I know of who tried the Subpac wasn't impressed.
A "transducer" is what all of these devices are, technically.
Buttkicker is a trademark name.
Bass shaker is an "unofficial" name for the same things, I believe. The reason that I'm not all that sure on this one is that I've discovered (not tested yet) that a practice is to hook up a large subwoofer to shake your floor and give more immersion to explosions and the like. Would be great even with a buttkicker!
In order to get these devices to work, you need to be able to split your audio. The simplest (to me) way to do this is to use a product called VoiceMeeter Bannana. Read/watch the tutorials to learn how to use it.
Good luck! And yes! It's worth it!
I have the same pair and I added a Dynamo 300 for the low end. Sounds amazing.
http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Dynamo-300-Theater-Subwoofer/dp/B004LRPXAU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1463339823&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=dynamo+300
I'm doing the exact same thing. This is my plan. (As a disclaimer, I am fairly new and a student of /r/Zeos.)
This Receiver
Front Speakers
Center Speaker
Subwoofer
If that sub is too large for the mobility you want, you could go with this, which is quite a bit smaller.
All that (with the F12) will be around $525.
If you're doing surround, which may limit mobility, I'd throw in a pair of these.
Don't forget some good quality speaker wire and banana plugs make life easier if you want to move it easily.
Since you mentioned that you're looking to upgrade to 5.1 at some point in the future, I'm assuming that you won't be using this setup for near-field listening and that this fits more into the music-centric, home theater category.
For the subwoofer, I would suggest going with the Martin Logan Dynamo 300 unless you have a large-ish room. It holds its own pretty well in regards to extension and clarity despite its small size and low output. You won't be rattling shit off the walls, but it will definitely improve the lacking mid/low-end of the MB42x speakers.
For the amp, I would suggest skipping the 2-channel upgrade and moving straight into a 5.1 channel receiver since you're planning on doing surround in the future. You'll end up saving some cash overall as well as gaining some additional features. Unfortunately, you'll be pretty close budget-wise. Going for a refurbished Denon AVR-S500BT will keep you a buck or two under. If going refurb is out for you, you might want to have a look at the SMSL Q5 Pro.
Enjoy your keyboard and the miccas.
In 6 months or whenever you get upgradeitis, save up and spring for a nice sub like this: http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Dynamo-300-Theater-Subwoofer/dp/B004LRPXAU
When shopping for budget subs, you can usually get slap, or musicality. Depends what you prefer.
Well, nice is a relative term when spending $300 on speakers and a subwoofer. Its alot to ask for on that budget IMO, but it can certainly be done if it just plugs into a computer. /r/zeos has lots of good info, using his guide, I'd pick the Polk On-Walls for $100, Martin Logan 8" Subwoofer for $130 and an SMSL SA50 for an amp. You'll need banana connectors, speaker wire and a 3.5mm to stereo RCA for connectivity. That should be a good balance of sound. Don't get this setup without the subwoofer though, those speakers are designed presuming you have a sub, and will fit nicely on your desk, and the sub is small enough to fit comfortably underneath.
I have one in my amazon wishlist that I'm still doing research on. Consists of:
Dayton Audio Subwoofer.
Fluance Surround Sound.
Fluance Bookshelf Speakers.
Denon Refurbished Reciever.
It's definitely a work in progress. Still doing research but I'm trying to keep the price down while still getting great bang for buck.
Check out some of the recommendations over in /r/Zeos and posting this question in the /r/Hometheater subreddit. :)
No need to power the sub as long as you get one with a built in amplifier (most have this).
The wattage rating for amps usually means per channel. So for a stereo amp with 50 watts, you're looking at 50 watts per speaker.
The monoprice stuff is not bad overall. Take a look at Dayton's sub in that price range also, and then for speakers you might look at Pioneer's bookshelf speakers too.
Look into a DAC/AMP
I spent a little money, nothing bank breaking, to get good audio from my PC
I use the Topping VX1
It attaches to your PC by USB and/or line out (the green jack)
I use the line out from my PC to the AUX input on the back of the DAC
I run from the Topping VX1 to a 8" sub from Dayton-Audio and from the sub I go to 2 Dayton Audio B652 speakers.
The sound is really good. Much better than from crappy PC speakers. Also the Topping has a switching headphone jack so you can leave your headphones in at all times.
I am using the audio technica m50x headphones which are decent.
For some reason he has a good sound card but crappy speakers. That makes me think he likes music/sound? If so, maybe consider new speakers. I would recommend the Micca PB42x speakers with an aux cable, then either buy or make some stands. If he would like a subwoofer too the Dayton Sub-800 with an aux to rca cable can pack some good punch without pissing off the neighbors too much. This setup would be more than enough for the average gamer/music enthusiast. It will be worlds above what he has now. However, if he does any music recording/mixing, maybe head to /r/audiophile or /r/budgetaudiophile for more specific recommendations.
Quick note: surround sound usually doesn't make sense at a desk, but you can certainly add more speakers to what I have listed here if you'd like.
Edit: oh yeah, you'll also want a speaker cable or some speaker wire (if he has wire strippers) to connect the two speakers to eachother.
Just a tip, even if you want to go with a proper setup, but as cheap as possible, here you go.
Receiver: $145
https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrs530bt/denon-avr-s530bt-5.2-ch-x-70-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html
Fronts and surrounds: $180
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2 x 2
Center: $70
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-C-Channel-Speaker-Tweeter/dp/B00HHFBEK6?th=1&amp;psc=1
Sub: $90
https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SUB-800-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0063NU30K
Total: $485
Don’t feel like you have to do it all at once either, if even sub-$500 sounds like a lot. I built my own setup over the course of roughly a year.
Start with a receiver and 2.0. Then add a sub, then a center, then surrounds (or vice-versa).
They are the speakers labeled SR and SL in this photo. I dont know who gave you those, but call them stupid for it! Since you cant use them on their own without an amplifier, and even worse since they only gave you surround channel speakers (which dont really function on their own)!!! (ok dont actually call them stupid. after all its a gift)
If you want to use them, I would suggest getting two fluance fronts. If you want fulfill the 5.1 surround channel, you could also pick up matching fluance center and a cheap sub like this.
Oh and you'll need speaker wire. And a receiver like this. Overall, if you expect to use these speakers in their intended position, expect to spend minimum of $250 (New). If you wanna save some bucks, go on craiglist or ebay and look for some used receivers. they are dime a dozen and a great bang for the buck.
This may be the easiest way for you to get to where you want to go for under $500. Don't forget that you'll need the right piece of furniture (craigslist) and/or speaker stands plus speaker wire. I don't know anything about remotes.
Refurbished AV receiver with 5.1, HDMI, 4K.
Dayton Audio speakers:
Subwoofer.
Mains.
Rear.
Center.
Most AV receivers have a calibration mode and come with an external mic.
You need to upgrade the speakers. At minimum the front three.
Remember the Jones Pioneers are very good for the money.
$399 plus free shipping for the 5.0 system
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-PK52FS-5-0-Theater-Speaker/dp/B00IRH0QMA/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1414446347&amp;sr=8-6&amp;keywords=andrew+jones
Add this ofr $270 and you are right about budget
http://www.amazon.com/NXG-Technology-NX-BAS-500-500-watt-Subwoofer/dp/B008FSTU4G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1414446517&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=ngx+subwoofer
At $270ish this one performs very similar to something like the sb2000($700) from svs. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008FSTU4G/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_d1_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;pf_rd_s=center-3&amp;pf_rd_r=0R7QXPNZEW89RVRR60DJ&amp;pf_rd_t=101&amp;pf_rd_p=1688200422&amp;pf_rd_i=507846
Used market is probably the best way to approach this at this price point.
Buy a SMSL amplifier, and a pair of used bookshelf speakers (spend as much here as you can afford, a little bit of research into the brand and model will give you a decent idea of what they sound like). You'll most likely need a 3.5mm to RCA adapter to make this work, if you're planning on using the headphone jack as the primary output. If you have a motherboard with a digital output, you'll need a DAC (Digital to Analog Converter) as well (FiiO D3 works great for the price).
When you want to add a sub later on, there are plenty of powered subwoofers that have a speaker terminal input. They usually have a low pass filter as well.
Your audio chain would then look like this:
Analog: PC Analog 3.5mm output -> SMSL Amplifier -> Powered Subwoofer -> Speakers
Digital: PC Digital -> FiiO D3 DAC -> SMSL Amplifier -> Powered Subwoofer -> Speakers
Link below to a Pioneer powered subwoofer with high level input speaker terminals (as an example. This sub is not great, but does the trick at the price point)
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SW-8MK2-Designed-100-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B008NCD2PC
If you must have new or plug and play: I also see the Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 being touted as a good all-in-one system for the money (can be had for under $200 new). But I imagine that for similar cash in the used market, you could blow the Klipsch system out of the water. However, I have never heard the Klipsch system, so I cannot say for certain. But instinct tells me it would be fairly easy to beat with decent used equipment.
Hope that helps, good luck with the new setup!
my suggestion:
speakers $1050
subwoofer x 2 $450
receiver $600
dual subs make a big difference IMO, and those speakers are much better than klipsch or pioneer. just add the towers later to get 7.2 if you need more immersive/impact
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Polk-Audio-Monitor-40-Series-II-BLACK-Bookshelf-Speakers-NEW-PAIR/233126661248?epid=114147299&amp;hash=item36476e8c80:g:h4MAAOSwcGtcdxuu
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Polk-Audio-Monitor-CS1-ii-BLACK-Center-Channel-Speaker-NEW/392002912940?epid=2136037656&amp;hash=item5b4531c2ac:g:tG4AAOSwHSVceGGQ
https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M
Add in the denon from accessories for less and you have a competent start until you can save up for rear surrounds. Note how much larger the woofers in these are compared to the pioneer setup. And make sure you measure, because they are rather large
> Earth shattering bass please.
We can easily do that for $1k. If you don't care too much about having it sound great you can get Pioneer speakers, an Onkyo receiver, and two BIC subwoofers. Total cost is about $700. You could get more of those Pioneer speakers if you want surround sound, or a third subwoofer for even more bass and still stay under $1k.
For better sound quality get a single subwoofer from Rhythmik or SVS. The downside is that you'll have chest thumping bass instead of earth shattering. You could also get a Cerwin Vega sub which would be a good compromise between sound quality and power.
That is a great point! I definitely want to get a quality sub. I was looking the BIC America F12 12-Inch 475-Watt Front Firing sub or should I go for something better?
What kind of sources do you plan on using, and what type of environment are you planning on listening in?
A subwoofer with a pair of bookshelves is the way to go on your budget. Something like the BIC America F12 along with the Micca/Muse combo at the top of this thread is a good start.
If you want more than one input or a remote control, get a receiver like the Yamaha R-S201 instead of the Muse.
An array of 1000 smartphone speakers all around you might envelop you but it doesn't mean it will sound good. A good 5.1.2 will out do that 7.1.4 in terms of quality. Something like this:
So depending on which sub and how much on the extras you spend you should be around $1500 cad
you are way way way off. What is the most you can spend without raising any eyebrows?
You want at least 4 speakers in the corners of the gym. Any single speaker is going to sound like junk in a room that big. loud and blaring right next to it and weak further away.
This one has bluetooth, but you'd be better off with a chromecast anyway.
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_022RS202/Yamaha-R-S202.html?tp=47041
Then 2 pairs (4 speakers total) of
https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-T652-2-Way-Speaker/dp/B00Q3MG05S/ref=sr_1_2?s=aht&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1503111961&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=Dual+6-1%2F2%22+speaker
or
https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-Venturi-DV64-Speaker/dp/B00011KLOI/ref=sr_1_3?s=aht&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1503111961&amp;sr=1-3&amp;keywords=Dual+6-1%2F2%22+speaker
or
https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-B652-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B002RMPHMU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1503112092&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=dayton+audio+b652
4 speakers total
Or you could go with an AV receiver (av receivers can easily accommodate the sub woofer) (easy peasy to find used) and a subwoofer like
https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1503112134&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=bic+subwoofer
https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-sub-1500-15-150-watt-powered-subwoofer--300-634
https://emotiva.com/products/basx-s8
https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M
Something like this refurbished Onkyo. For the sub go with the BIC F12. With your budget I would wait for the rest. I'd also pick up a center channel before surrounds. If you are set on getting everything now for under $400 try Craigslist. Your speakers were discontinued, but here's your matching center on eBay.
BIC F12 is probably your best bet in that price range. If you want to spend a little more the Klipsch RW12 are very good.
Ah, it looks like those are kits. It's probably the same plate amplifier for both models, but the 6600 includes a 10" sub vs. the 6200's 8" sub.
The BIC F12 is pretty much the go-to cheap sub and packs a hell of a lot more power than either the Polk you have, or the Pioneer.
I'm the thrifty kinda guy.
Refurbished Denon receiver, 2 Micca bookshelves, a Micca center channel, and a Bic America subwoofer. About 700 bucks total. Sounds good enough for me. I know much better is out there but it's hard to justify the costs.
My Sennheiser HD598SE's are great ($150), and I have a FiiO E10K ($75) that they plug into at work, and at home I just plug them in directly since the onboard soundcard isn't too bad surprisingly on my motherboard. I have a Sony SRS-X5 bluetooth speaker plugged into the back of it as well. I have those cheap-ass sony ANC headphones (20 bucks at the time I bought them) and they get the job done at a cheap price for planes and for the AC unit blasting in my office (I know... killing me, 80db of white noise all day long).
I have a friend from work that spent 50,000 bucks on his setup. It sounds great, and it's worth it, but I couldn't spend that much on it.
I'm more of a headphone kinda guy. My next upgrade would probably be going all out on headphones. A pair of Sennheiser HD800's probably. That's in the far future, I got stuff I want to do around the house first.
These are my workout earbuds
They are a great value.
HEY!!!! Another TC-50 guy!!!! I am glad someone else can appreciate those ugly bastards for their damn good sound quality and hilarious manuals. I have a pair of BIC f-12's to pick up the bottom end of those speakers but I really do find them a bit boomy at certain frequencies, as most ported subs are.. But at the price I am doubtful that anything can come close to their performance outside of custom. At lower levels (3ish out of 10) they work in just fine. Only having the subs for a bit I am still working on placement, but I am very happy with them overall for the price paid (like 184 each). Grabbed them from Amazon with prime shipping, couldn't beat that..
A BIC F12 sub will do the trick.
I set up the same receiver for my mom and it’s been fine. Easy to set up and does all she needs it to do. As for subs. https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=sr_1_4?crid=CXD0EZKTJQ0G&amp;keywords=bic+subwoofer&amp;qid=1554921469&amp;s=gateway&amp;sprefix=Bic+su%2Caps%2C174&amp;sr=8-4
Depends. If they're at a reasonable volume level and within a fair distance there's plenty of speakers that can sound pretty good without being large. If you're seeking volume, bass, low distortion, and filling a larger room things start getting more complex (and expensive).
Personally I don't feel Orb are particularly worthwhile due to using fullrange drivers which will have dispersion issue in the upper register. Instead NHT has some affordable bookshelf speakers that compare well. Considering the bargain basement pricing you could go with 5x SuperOne 2.1 from NHT with a BIC subwoofer here for a relatively compact system. Use the additional $100 to buy the wallmounts and the system should kick the Orb's ass in most objective performance criteria.
If you only need a 2.1 system, you could still go for a pair of the SuperOne and a better quality sub and get really solid performance considering. You could also step up to a more boutique speaker like Focal. Hell, if looking used you might be able to grab NHT Classic 3's for around $500/pr on Ebay which are excellent in performance being three way bookshelves. Of course, any of these would need stands, so expect a minimum $120 bump (IME) if using something quality.
This is where aesthetics, budget, room size, and performance criteria all start to play in.
Lots of good options. Like someone else mentioned Jamo s803 for $200 are good, as are the Elac b6.2($240,) or Ascend CBM170($330,) with the Ascend's probably being the best of the bunch. These are all passive, so you'll need an amp, such as this receiver for $140.https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrs530bt/denon-avr-s530bt-5.2-ch-x-70-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html
That leaves enough for a subwoofer, BIC F12 will fit your needs for $212.
https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M
Comes to be about $600 give or take depending on which speakers you choose.
Lastly you'll need speaker wire and an RCA cable for the subwoofer.
Swans are nice as they're just one piece, no amp required. Downside is it's a little more difficult to integrate a subwoofer.
Guess it comes down to convenience or modularity.
Check out these: Fluance XLBP Use these for your surround sides and the B&Ws for the backs. Forgo a sub for now and save until you can get a decent one. However, if you really want one I recommend the Bic America F12.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IEDL8EM/ref=sspa_dk_detail_4?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B00IEDL8EMp13NParams
https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1527581015&sr=1-1&keywords=bic+america+f12&dpID=516v3&#37;252B2brCL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
And the Denon AVR you got. It'll sound great and you can add a center or surrounds later as you see fit. I've personally had all these items, and I liked every one of them when I had them. I'm still running the 510BT in my HT.
BIC America FH-65B for $95 !!
BIC America F12 for $190
SMSL SA-50 for $70
And then you'd need some speaker wire and a 3.5mm to RCA cable (depending on your source)
I use the Dayton 100w sub with my Q100s with no issues. IF you want go up another step, the BIC America F12 is a well recommended sub for under $250.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015A8Y5M/
Sure. I purchased,
Denon AVR-E300 There is a newer model out now I believe.
Micca MB42X bookshelf speakers
Micca MB42X-C Center speaker
BIC America F12 Subwoofer
Fluance AVBP2 Sattalite speakers
I live in a smallish apartment and the 12 inch subwoofer is close to overkill for me. It will put out some heavy punch when turned up. I am happy with the speakers that I have.
I have SVS PC2000, I love them. They are expensive, but I have listened to The PB1000 as well which is wonderful.
To be more in the starter sub range, https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003H3G5D8/ref=psdc_12097481011_t3_B0015A8Y5M for 220
or https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-sub-1200-12-120-watt-powered-subwoofer--300-629 for 150
HSU and SVS are my favorite sub brands, and to get one around 250 or lower, you would have to find a used one of their entry models, but they are both super reliable brands.
Bic and Dayton both make solid starter subs that don't go super low, but they are nice bang for the buck. Definitely better than the Polk. Listen to them if you can, though. I know SVS let's you audition, and HSU lets you audition if you are near Orange county, CA.
I have the BIC's RtR twin. Same manufacturer with minor differences: side instead of rear-ported, and has a red speaker. It's a few dollars cheaper for some reason.
I haven't listened to the Klipsch for comparison, but I can offer a subjective: I love my sub. The specs say the BIC/RtR has a slightly lower end (25 vs 29), FWIW. I don't think you'd be disappointed.
What about this? Klipsch Sub-12HG Synergy Series 12-Inch 300-Watt Subwoofer with High Gloss Trim (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003VIWK0G/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_at_ws_us?ie=UTF8
Wha'd you pay?
They should sound just fine for movies, probably pretty good for music. You're already several steps ahead of a Bose system. I would invest in a sub, it'll make a big difference with speakers that size. Can't go too wrong with this, it'll match the rest of your stuff, though I'm sure someone'll come and say Klipsch sucks at making subs and go with this other manufacturer that I've never heard of that only makes subs.
Anywho, looks like a good setup to start with, in a small room it'll do just fine, and you can always upgrade your front speakers down the line by keeping an eye on Craigslist, maybe the KLF-10, KG 5.5 or Forte's. It has a pre-amp output, so you can add a 2-channel power amplifier (as I've done with my receiver) to power some nicer speakers, the receiver should do well with the Quintet.
TL:DR Should sound good, room to grow, get a sub (used on Craigslist if you're like me)
Receiver ($110): http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavr1513/denon-avr-1513-5.1ch-home-theater-receiver-3d-ready/1.html
Receiver - 2nd option: http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavre300/denon-avr-e300-5.1-3d-networking-receiver-airplay/1.html
-Could be good for future upgrades. Has some networking functionality and a lot more wattage.
Stereo Speakers ($80): http://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2
Sub ($130): http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Dynamo-300-Theater-Subwoofer/dp/B004LRPXAU/
Wire ($18): http://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-50-Feet-High-Purity-Oxygen-Free-Speaker/dp/B001UNLTVK/
With tax and shipping though, that is a bit over your budget, should be around $350-400. It should sound really good, plus leave you the option to add a center channel and surround if he ever wants it.
If you want to cut the initial cost, you could forego the sub until a later date and it would still sound very good and that would get you back into budget. You could also forego the sub to purchase the more expensive receiver if that appeals to you. The nice thing about a receiver is it gives you lots of options for future upgrades.
Most subwoofers take a single RCA from subwoofer out on the playback device to the L input on the sub. The R is not necessary.
My sub is the same way.
Pioneer SW-8MK2 Andrew Jones Designed 100-Watt Powered Subwoofer https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008NCD2PC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_8YylzbD7A0ANV
Heads up: all the Andrew Jones speakers are on sale for the next 8 hours or so for Amazon's deal of the day.
I own the older model of the bookshelf speakers and they're fantastic for the price. I'll probably fill out my home theater with these.
Floor standing loud speaker SP-FS52 - $89.99 each
Center Speaker SP-C22 - $69.99
SW-8MK2 Subwoofer - $99
I've googled all over and can't find an answer to this!
I have the following equipment:
I have the Bookshelf speakers wired directly to the Sonos AMP as well as the Subwoofer wired directly to the Sonos AMP (connect to left input on back of sub).
There are also speaker connections on the back of the sub and I see people often recommend wiring the speakers to those rather than the amp. Is this better or different at all from my current setup?
Or in other words:
Amp --> Sub , Amp --> Speakers
vs
AMP --> Sub --> Speakers
I ended up tightening my budget quite a bit on this new home theater, so some of my choices aren't as nice as what I had before, but I'm very happy with what I got in the end. I want to thank everyone who gave me advice in my last post here. It was all very helpful!
I went with a 65" Samsung 120Hz smart TV. I decided against getting the 240Hz because I couldn't see a difference between the two when looking at it, and the 3D makes my wife sick in any case. That saved me almost $500.
For the receiver, I took everyone's advice and opted away from the all-in-one set I'd been looking at. Instead, I got a great price on a Pioneer VSX-824 that I've been very happy with.
I know the Denon reciever is what everyone recommended, and it's what I bought at first, but strangely enough my PS3 didn't work with it. It worked just fine connected to the TV directly, and other devices worked with that HDMI cable and port, but the PS3 just told me to go fuck myself. A quick google search told me that it's a flaw in the way the HDMI handshake works with Denon receivers, so back it went.
I went with Pioneer speakers as well, hooking up a
pair of tower speakers for front left and right, a pair of matching bookshelf speakers for the rear, and the matching center speaker.
The subwoofer will have to wait, for now, but the plan is to purchase the matching subwoofer when we're ready.
Instead of the Harmony Ultimate, which didn't seem to get any good remarks, I opted for the much cheaper Harmony 650, which has made my wife very happy. No more frayed tempers about what button does what on which remote. I'm even buying my parents one for Christmas.
I'm hugely pleased with the upgrade over my previous setup, even if it's not everything it could have been. What do you all think?
Yes, it would appear so. Even though you are using the external input (vs docking your iPod in the speaker dock), we would assume that the line-level signal is coming out of the White and Red RCA outputs on the back. Those could be connected directly to any sub woofer with Left/Right RCA line-level inputs. For example, this popular sub woofer on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-108248-60-Watt-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B009GUTJ34
The only question is whether those line-level outputs on the back adjust the volume up/down with the iKick gadget or whether they are fixed-level? You may be stuck with finding this out empirically since it doesn't appear to be documented.
B&W 686, or Monitor Audio silver, or Klipsch RB-something
http://www.amazon.com/SVS-SB1000-12-inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B00AF88C0M
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-Natural-Stereo-Receiver-R-S201BL/dp/B00F0H88SY/
Yes very clear. They obviously don't go very low due to their small size. A good subwoofer will make that not matter though.
Assuming you run those you would have ...around $480 to buy a sub with
https://www.reddit.com/r/Zeos/comments/5b1u99/guide_subwoofers/
You cant go wrong with SVS SB-1000 – 12”, 300 Watt DSP Controlled, Sealed Box Subwoofer (Black Ash) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AF88C0M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Nn6DzbRB4805N for about $500 if size is a concern.
This would be way better then that bose setup for the same kind of $ and similar size.
I'd recommend the SVS SB1000. It's $100 more than your budget, but it's worth going over for it.
It's an incredible 12" sub, but it's actually really small so it will fit well in your small office space. (Smaller than many 8" subs!) It's sealed, not ported, so it's more musical than rumbly.
And while upgrading your speakers as well would be ideal, I disagree with everybody here. You don't HAVE to upgrade your speakers first. For some people, bass is the most important part of sound. 20-120 Hz is only 0.5% of audible frequencies; BUT, that's 26% of audible pitches. So with a sub you may be literally adding 30% of missing octaves to your sound, which is a much bigger upgrade than new speakers would give you.
And if you listen to bass-heavy music of any kind, you may actually be missing out on more than 26% of the pitches in your music.
I'm, personally against cheap subs: a subwoofer is costly to manufacture, it needs thick wood and bracing not to reverberate and rattle and decent 10"+ woofers are expensive. This makes cheap subs inevitably bad, which might be fine for some, but it would decrease the quality of your 305s; if you're a "basshead", you will probably be disappointed by the low quality of a cheap sub's output.
Bear in mind that the subwoofer in your speakers' own series, the LSR310S, is $450, I'm not pulling this out of my ass.
So my minimum recommendation is an SVS SB-1000 at $500, if not the 2000 for $700. They have a full crossover built in that allows you to integrate it with ease (although I always recommend a miniDSP with a sub if you're willing to put in the minimal effort to configure it).
yeah, you'd either have to split the rca's out to speakers and sub or you'd need to get a sub with line in and out. If you do get a sub, either get a good one for the price (i have the Dayton Sub 1200, which is very inexpensive and great for movies and games) or save up and get a solid entry level sub. I'm looking to add a svs sub 1000 (http://www.amazon.com/SVS-SB1000-12-inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B00AF88C0M/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1426787008&amp;sr=1-1-catcorr&amp;keywords=svs+sub+10000) to my musical setup. Sealed if you listen to more music, ported if you do more movies and gaming than music.
>Any thoughts on a small powered subwoofer to complement but not overpower?
This is the one I use nearfield. It's excellent, and tiny.
Theater Solutions By goldwood sound 15 inch down firing slot ported subwoofer mahogony
Micca MS-10 class subwoofer
Rockville 10 inch Studio Subwoofer black
Presonus Temblor T10
Monoprice stage right 10 inch studio sub
Monoprice SSW-12 slim subwoofer
Monoprice 12 inch sub-woofer
Acoustic Audio by goldwood sound PSW600 LFE series subwoofer 15 inches
I was recently in you position and i went with the Dayton Sub-1500. I can't speak for the BIC, but i can say the Dayton is a monster. It is very large and can be very loud. I have the gain set about half way, and when its cranking i can hear thumps when i do laundry in the basement (sub is in the finished attic on the 3rd floor).
For entry level receivers I'd go with this Yamaha RX-V379 for $188. Yamaha's YPAO room correction is better than Denon's house brand IMO. The exception would be if you get a receiver a couple years older that has Audessy.
Regarding speakers, I would take a serious look at the EMP Tek R5bi bookshelves for $225. These will provide a more open, more accurate response vs. Most of the other speakers you are looking at, such as the Pioneers. Often times they'll have clearance pairs at $180 or so, and they were on sale last year for Black Friday/Cyber Monday. They're still an awesome speaker at full price though. They'll pair up well with any subwoofer, and will also make fantastic surround speakers when you are ready for that upgrade. The two matching center speakers are also very high quality.
For a sub I would go with either the Dayton SUB-1500 for $198, or the BIC F12 for $176 on sale here, normally around $219. The Dayton is bigger, but has lower extension, whereas the BIC sub has greater output across it's frequency range.
These three components, I feel, will give you a very solid foundation on which to build your home theater. EMP Tek's (and their parent company RBH's) products have been consistently well reviewed, and frequently rank first or second place in comparisons against similarly priced or even more expensive products. Either of the two subs are top of their class in subs around $200. You really won't find better until you spend $500 or more, or go DIY.
And there's this route-
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00F0H88SY/ref=sr_1_4_olp?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1468459018&amp;sr=8-4&amp;keywords=sony+stereo+receiver&amp;condition=used
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00F0H88SY/ref=sr_1_4_olp?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1468459018&amp;sr=8-4&amp;keywords=sony+stereo+receiver&amp;condition=used
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00JZTQIJ4/ref=sr_1_4_olp?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1468459242&amp;sr=1-4&amp;keywords=dayton+audio+subwoofer&amp;condition=new
I'd go with PA speakers up high on tripod stands with the iNuke amp to get the party volume level you'll want and then add a powered sub later when you get your next Pell grant check :)
Thanks for the in depth response. I was thinking the subwoofer may have been too small since the recommended room size was small to medium. Do you think the Dayton Sub-1500 will do the job?
I was already planning on hanging 4 sets of thick curtains starting from the bottom of the 2nd floor windows to the floor that will be closed likely indefinitely to help ward off glare, so hopefully they'll help with reflections as well? I dunno about the 2nd floor windows, but hopefully they'll have less of an effect. Unfortunately getting a pair of those martin Logans would probably be pushing my price budget.
Go reference premier if you can. You can get 2 x RP-250's for $600.
However I would suggest going with bookshelves. Get RP-150ms for $266/pair. That will give you $485 for subwoofer. You can get an svs-pb1000 for $419 from amazon. Use the rest of the money for speaker wires, subwoofer cable and banana plugs etc.
Not exactly what your looking for, but I used this :
AuraSound AST-2B-4 Pro Bass Shaker Tactile Transducer
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002ZPTBI/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_u4Lbvb01CMMBY
It's a pretty chunky size. But I mounted mine on the underside of my couch and every racing game I've played the engine rev would be deep enough to activate the woofer. It's strong and quiet. Hopefully this will help.
I picked up two Aurasound AST-2B-4. I have one installed under the seat but waiting on two more 8020 pieces to mount the 2nd under the pedals. Nice installation video and review btw.
Oh oh. I have an idea. Toss in a little amplifier and an Aura tactile transducer or even a more powerful model. These little things are kickass for putting under a reclining chair and watching movies, but it would basically turn the whole thing into a penetrative sybian. You might be able to find something that doesn't need an audio input and just works through an on/off, or even wire up a constant voltage source at the peak input voltage if you're handy enough (which it looks like you are). Either way, it looks great!
edit: I did a bit of digging/calculating. The aura transducer is rated for 50W RMS @ 4 ohm impedance. This works out to an RMS voltage/current supply of 14.2VAC and 3.5A. You could pick up this laptop charger, wire it up with a properly rated switch (before the power supply box) and an LED/resistor in parallel with the output and boom, you got yourself a sybian.
edit2: For redoing the vinyl, use a heat gun in those weird corners. Don't let the vinyl get so hot that it starts to bubble, but just enough to make it more pliable and easily stretched. Cutting some reliefs along the bottom when you are pulling the sides will help make it taut. I'm curious: what did you salvage the gear motor/piston assy from? I'd love to try my hand at building something like this in the future too, but I've never just had a gear motor/linkages laying around. It's not the kinematics that troubles me, it's the cost/unavailability of ready-made components.
I heard the subpac was good too, as was the buttkicker. But the subpac is expensive and the buttkicker was sold out lol so I bought the budget tactile feedback rig (Recommended by another /r/oculus member.) which included these three things. It also took a few wires and some tweaking but after mounting it to a chair, I love it
For seated stuff like Elite or the racing games, I mounted a pair of these little bass transducers to my chair:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ZPTBI/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
and power them with this little cheap-o amplifier:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N5D5ONB/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
They are incredible, and the whole setup was less than $150. Pretty awesome little devices.
I don't know about robust, but I'm using one of these under $15 board only amps right now, on a 12VDC power supply:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N0PXEN4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
I'm feeding an Aurasound transducer with it, from the dedicated center channel output on my motherboard, so I didn't need a separate crossover: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ZPTBI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
Turned up to about 6/10 it seems to give me pretty good feedback. I don't know about how "crisp" it is TBH. [That's highly dependent on how you have a transducer mounted to transfer impulses to some other structure, which might have some resonance or flex/absorption, depending.] The amp is rated 100W into 8ohms, but it would deliver better output into a 4ohm transducer if I had it on a higher voltage supply (input can be up to 24V and they recommend 19V e.g. laptop type chargers).
Anyway, it's an option at least. So far been functioning for about 6 months of irregular use.
Here is a link to the one I have
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ZPTBI?psc=1&amp;redirect=true&amp;ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00
I chose this based on price. I wasn't sure how good they worked so I didn't want to spend a lot to try one out. I was very happy with this one and can only imagine how good one with a couple hundred watts works.
With that budget, I'd go 3.1. Something like this is what I'd buy:
Receiver:
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/yamrxv379bl/yamaha-rx-v379-5.1-ch-x-70-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html
Front L/R:
http://emptek.com/r5bi.php
Center:
http://emptek.com/r5ci.php
Subwoofer:
https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M
Total: $832.99
Out of what I listed, I only own the subwoofer, and I like it a lot. I researched the Emptek bookshelves & center quite a bit, and very nearly bought them, but I went with a higher budget. I can say I never found anyone with anything But high praise for them.
I think you would wish you had a subwoofer if you went without one. You can always turn it down at night. It doesn't have to shake everything to be effective.
Like everyone else said, it's the speakers, not the HTPC setup.
Someone suggested /r/Zeos and I agree. If you want to speed up the process and want to stay with smaller speakers:
Satellites: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E7H8GG2/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B00E7H8GG2&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=wwwpuresimula-20
Center: http://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-C-Channel-Speaker-Tweeter/dp/B00HHFBEK6/ref=pd_sim_e_1?ie=UTF8&amp;refRID=04ACVVRGCBZ4T10X95J6
Sub: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015A8Y5M/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B0015A8Y5M&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=wwwpuresimula-20
That setup will give you the thunder and it's not crazy expensive.
Receiver: link. 140
Speakers: link. 260.
Subwoofer: link. 200
Never buy an HTIB (home theater in a box). They use the cheapest and crappiest receivers that exist. The setup I linked would be much higher quality than getting a system like that. It is a very low budget, if you are able to go up you can improve parts.
I didn't include the blu ray player. You are getting a PS4 which will be able to do that so I suggest just going with that.
Edit: If this is too much, let me know and I can cut it down to something else. If you can stretch it to get this, I highly recommend it. This setup would be killer and much better than a lot of things at this price range.
You might want to consider the BIC F12 subwoofer for ~$200.
http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M
It's a little more than you're going to spend and will give you a lot more bang for your buck.
That’s gonna be tight but here is one setup. I would do a receiver and two bookshelves and maybe a sub and slowly build the system up. But if you must...
Receiver: $129 Denon S530bt
https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrs530bt/denon-avr-s530bt-5.2-ch-x-70-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html
Speakers: $299 Energy Take 5.1
Energy 5.1 Take Classic Home Theater System (Set of Six, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001202C44/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Uff5Ab4KFSVP9
Here are some decent bookshelves and sub to be used with the above receiver: $165
Klipsch R-14M 4-Inch Reference Bookshelf Speakers (Pair, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MGQAH2M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Hof5Ab9WCGEA2
Subwoofer: $212 Bic F12
BIC America F12 12-Inch 475-Watt Front Firing Powered Subwoofer https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_puf5AbGEX1XGJ
Sub
Choose HTM-200 or maybe CBM-170 for main, HTM-200 C for center, HTM-200 for surround This will give you 5.1, which is enough to start.
Receiver, or something similar from this site
That comes in around $1000.
If you're ready for a receiver upgrade, there's nothing better at $150 than an avr-x1400h. If you're not ready he can pick up a Denon s540bt for $150 or a Denon s730h for $220. I'd pick the 540 for an under $1,000 setup.
Bic America F12 Subwoofer (if wife allows)
Now you have quite a few choices for LCR. I'd start with Elac Debut 2 B6.2 and Matching Center. For ~$570.
Leave the rest for cables and upgrading surrounds for later. I'm currently pretty happy with my Polk owm3 for $100 but I have rear space restrictions.
You can also go the Fluance Route Fluance L& R, Matching center, and Bipole Surrounds for ~$500
Yes and yes. I was using design acoustic ps-10's with a big boomy sub woofer before and I really liked the sound. But some stuff was just too much bass. Basically any modern record. I found a cheap pair of Large Advents that I'm in the process of restoring. So I sold off the bookshelves and boomy sub. I'm missing some of the deep notes, but really enjoying the balance of the Advents. Much more "musical" and "punchy". I'd love something in between where I can get the best of both worlds.
Never looked into BIC but this one seems to be a great value based on reviews:
http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M
Got just a few more bucks?
http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=lp_172568_1_3?s=aht&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1413566983&amp;sr=1-3
Shit I was going to come here and say something assholeish about his post but man you kind of delivered. That's a great buy. I'd personally go separates but if he can score a free avr more power to him. He would proabbyl be better off getting a different sub though. BIC makes a nice one right around $200 on amazon right now.
http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M
If you're set on the receiver, a pair of Bic DV84 for $140 each or a pair of Polk Monitor 60s for $160 each. Bic DV62CLRS center for $100 and DV62si for the rear at $110 for the pair. Bic F12 sub for $185. Maybe a pair of Fluance bookshelves for $180 a pair, and Bipolar for the for $200 for the rear, then find a center, hard to beat the bic for the price as far as a sub though. The Bic 84s, and Monitor 60s stand up pretty well to heavy bass, the F12 will add the necessary kick in the balls.
Not sure why you x-posted this to audiophile, with that budget the only way will get audiophile grade is if you can find the score of the century on craigslist.
https://smile.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1541457505&sr=8-1&keywords=bic+sub
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not sure if there is anything else comparable in the price range, but i used to own this sub and it hit pretty hard for a $200 sub.
The BIC F12 is A LOT better for just a hair over $200. That is what I would buy.
https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=bic+f12&amp;qid=1558032411&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-2
Or BIC f12 https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M
its around 200$ tho.
edit: heres zeos review of it : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id9UNYpgTdY
klipsch floorstanding speakers on either side of the credenza (cabinet) I got a nice Yamaha center channel on the top center shelf, and this sub all the way to the left in my shelf!
Edit: they blend in really well so that’s the best thing you could’ve said
Hey-o,
I've got a setup question:
Will a pro-ject debut Carbon connect to Klipsch R-15PM speakers a Klipsch Reference subwoofer with the pro-ject phono preamp
Any advice is appreciated for speakers to go with this turntable! Thanks!
https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-Reference-R-10SW-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B00MH42BBI/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1542887038&amp;sr=8-6&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&amp;keywords=r-15pm&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=41PeL5d95LL&amp;ref=plSrch
I am
Looking to add this to the R-15s. Can I choose later to buy an external amp and hook these all to it? Thanks for the lead.
I've already bought the matching [sub] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MH42BBI/), it gets here between Feb. 8 and 13. The matching center and rears I'm going to purchase in a few months to spread out the cost.
So I'm hoping when I get the sub I'll find out that there is nothing wrong the front speaker. I'm thinking at the moment whether I put them as large or small, it's feeding the low end to them and killing them.
I can return the front speakers till March 2nd, so I'll be able to see if the sub fixes it by then. I just figured I'd come on here to see if my suspension were correct.
http://www.cardpool.com/sell/gift-cards-for-amazon-gift-card
Swap your Dell gift cards for Amazon gift cards. Your option #3 is $800 on Dell. Cardpool will give you a $695 Amazon gift card for $800 worth of Dell gift cards. That might sound like a crappy exchange, but Dell is HUGELY overcharging for those speakers.
$702 on Amazon will get you the same center speaker and better LR and sub.
So, you get a better system by swapping the gift cards and spending an extra $7.
Your option #2 is $850 on Dell, or $723 on Amazon. Cardpool will give you $738 for $850 worth of Dell gift cards.
The Dell price on option #1 is just as insane. Dell wants $599 for the R-10B, but you can get it on Amazon for $350. Or you can step up to the R-20B for $499 on Amazon.
Of course, once you convert the Dell cards to Amazon cards, there are a ton of other options open to you too.
Use promo code 3127779 today and Sat. only. $370 at Amazon http://www.amazon.com//dp/B00MJ1YR8Y/
I am currently using the Focusrite Scarlett 2i4 USB Audio Interface for my Rokit monitors. I see this 12 inch Klipsch sub-woofer is on sale from Amazon today and I'd like to add it to my setup but am unsure if I'll be able to connect it to my audio interface or if I'd have to purchase something else to get it hooked up. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
You can buy a perfectly decent sub for $300.
I don't have any guaranteed good choices for you but if musicality is a priority, then possibly a sealed unit instead of a ported. Less boom, but more control.
And of course if you buy used, you can get even more bang for your buck.
But this all presupposes you're not happy with the levels of bass you get now. And with 4 inch woofers (or do I mean "woofers" in quotation marks - there are speakers out there with larger mid-range cones than that) you probably aren't exactly digging down to 20 Hz subsonics now. In point of fact, you're probably missing everything from 20 Hz up to 60 or 70 Hz (not sure, haven't seen the specs on those Pioneer speakers). So a sub would almost certainly give a serious boost to your sound.
For instance: https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-12SW-Subwoofer/dp/B00MJ1YR8Y (and yeah, that's $350, so it's over your arbitrary budget choice). The 10-incher is under $300 though and would also give you quite an upgrade. Just as one example of a decent sub.
Have you bought any of the items yet?
I picked up the R-12SW from Amazon's Black Friday week or whatever it was called. You can see here that the price was $224. I can't guarantee it will get that low again, but you might want to wait around and see if Amazon lowers it to $360.
I wouldn't recommend anything that you linked. That Klipsch system isn't worth the money and subwoofer won't dig very deep. Spending $240 on the rears is too much money at this price point. I would go with:
AVR: Denon AVR-X1200 $320
Bookshelf L/R: Elac Debut B5 $200
Center: Elac Debut C5 $180
In-ceiling rears: Micca M-8C x2 $82
Subwoofer: BIC Acoustec PL-200 $249
Total: $1031
>Budget $150/$250
Size of the room, unsure, This is silly, but its a house we are purchasing, Ive only walked through twice. Its roughly the size of a 2 car garage if that helps as its the space directly above. Double set of doors open into the hall.
That's fine. Ok, that's not too horribly big , lol and it's sealed so for the top end of that budget would be the BIC PL-200 at $249 currently on sale ( I've owned 2 of these in the past myself.) Better to put that money in a jar though and pull it back out when it's $400 -$600 and get either a ported HSU , Rythmik, SVS or Emp-tek but if that's the budget the BIC is the upper budget recommend and the Dayton 1200 at $135 shipped is my lower end recommend.
I have the x1300w, and just bought a BIC PL-200 II sub off of Amazon a month ago and I love it.
https://www.amazon.com/Bic-Acoustech-PL-200-II-Subwoofer/dp/B074131NKS/ref=sr_ph_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1511876896&amp;sr=sr-1&amp;keywords=pl-200+ii
Are there any specific features I should be looking out for?
I saw this one on Amazon and it looks like it has good reviews: SVS PB-1000 Subwoofer (Black Ash) – 10-inch Driver, 300-Watts RMS, Ported Cabinet https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00K88UMPW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_GUX1CbEG15MWG
A subwoofer "under 25cm tall" will be a pretty wimpy subwoofer. Any reason you can't find another spot for the sub? I'm not sure you can easily find even an 8" driver subwoofer that will fit that requirement. And best to shoot for a high output 10" if not a 12" sub for a home theater setup.
But also a good idea to hold off for a bit so you can afford a good sub. This SVS PB-1000 would be an excellent choice for $500: https://www.amazon.com/SVS-PB-1000-Subwoofer-Black-Ash/dp/B00K88UMPW/
https://www.amazon.ca/SVS-PB-1000-Subwoofers-Black-Ash/dp/B00K88UMPW/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=svs+pb12&amp;qid=1575056452&amp;s=electronics&amp;sprefix=svs+pb1&amp;sr=1-1
For budget, I’ve been very pleased with my Klipsch 2.1 set up...
10”/300 watt sub ($230) — Klipsch Reference R-10SW 10" 300w Powered Subwoofer (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MH42BBI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_5O9yDbJTF5HR9
5” / 2 x 50 w ($300) — Klipsch R-15PM Powered Monitor - Black (Pair) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A7J534G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_2R9yDbPY53ZYJ
Denon X1200W (Receiver) - https://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-X1200W-Channel-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B00ZY7FHXY/
ELAC B6 Pair (Front Left/Right) - https://www.amazon.com/Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Andrew-Jones/dp/B014GSEQ06/
ELAC C5 (Center) - https://www.amazon.com/Debut-Center-Speaker-Andrew-Jones/dp/B014GSEQWE
ELAC B4 (Rear/Surrounds) - https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-Bookshelf-Speaker-Black/dp/B01DKDJRH0/
Klipsch R-10SW (Subwoofer) - https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-10SW-Powerful-10-Subwoofer/dp/B00MH42BBI
Totals to around $1300. You could probably get lesser speakers for the rears, as they aren't as important. Could also try to get a better sub, as you have an extra $200 left if you have a $1500 budget. The receiver supports both Dolby Atmos and DTS X, but if you want Atmos you'll need to buy either in ceiling speakers or the ELAC upfiring A4 speaker.
https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-15PM-Powered-Monitor-Cherry/dp/B07F2SCF6S
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https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-Reference-R-10SW-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B00MH42BBI/
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Thinking about the Klipsch combo. What do you think about this set up?
If you're looking for a 2.1 set, we have the m50w for 285$ on amazon. Front firing sub-woofer with some nice sats.
https://www.amazon.com/Swans-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers-Subwoofer/dp/B002TG3B7C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1491932185&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=M50w
For separate components, I would do klipsh with these, total 600ish:
https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-15PM-Powered-Monitor-Black/dp/B01A7J534G/ref=pd_sim_23_3?_encoding=UTF8&amp;pd_rd_i=B01A7J534G&amp;pd_rd_r=K4CK7YSVFSZECAQ3P9RP&amp;pd_rd_w=P2pNR&amp;pd_rd_wg=oidx9&amp;refRID=K4CK7YSVFSZECAQ3P9RP&amp;th=1
https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-Reference-R-10SW-Surround-Subwoofer/dp/B00MH42BBI/ref=pd_sim_23_1?_encoding=UTF8&amp;pd_rd_i=B00MH42BBI&amp;pd_rd_r=N2P5JDZMYKW4KSFPZSKC&amp;pd_rd_w=45kKn&amp;pd_rd_wg=TK4wG&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=N2P5JDZMYKW4KSFPZSKC
Good call. I forgot to include the sub. I was looking at a variety of things so never pulled the trigger on one.
Klipsch R-10SW
ELAC S10
Bic Acoustech PL-200 II Subwoofer
That may push me out of my budget. I could get less expensive LR and center to get a better sub. How about the Klipsch R-12SW for $337 instead?
Thanks for the thoughtful response! I wasnt sure how the price vs quality of sound systems really was, since with some things the $5000 option ends up the same as the $50 sometimes, you know? In response to getting a 2.0/.1 system, I was thinking of doing something along those lines. Do you know anything about the Klipsch R24F Floorstanding speaker? I was thinking about getting two of those (frys is doing a sale, 250 for a pair) and the Klipsch 12" sub (also on sale for 200). Reviews seem pretty sparse and dont really lean in any direction. I just dont know what kind of specs to look for and what indicates good performance. Thanks again for your original response and for any future advice :D
I do really like Sonos products, but it's hard to make much of a comparison...they don't share woofer sizes, power output, or anything else about their sub.
this Sub plus a Connect would cost the same as just a Sonos Sub, you think the Sonos Sub is better than this one?
https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R12SW-Powered-Subwoofer-Black/dp/B00MJ1YR8Y
I'm going to be buying the following:
KEF Q150 - Amazon
Klipsch R12SW - Amazon
Yamaha A S501 - Amazon
They're going to be going into my PC.
I would like to know whether i would need to buy any extra cables in order to make it all work properly? Or does everything come ready to connect in the boxes?
I'm a complete audio noob, and this is going to be my first setup, so please bare with me.
Thanks.
https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-12SW-12-Inch-Front-Firing-Subwoofer/dp/B00MJ1YR8Y/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1495816422&amp;sr=1-3&amp;keywords=klipsch%2Bsubwoofer&amp;th=1
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Will https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-12SW-Subwoofer/dp/B00MJ1YR8Y cover the whole spectrum?
2.
Where can I learnt about these sort is things? A book?
First of all, thank you for a such a detailed post! You provided great insight and appreciate that.
Now - To be perfectly honest, I don't know too much about bipoles and dipoles to comfortably experiment with them. But I will try to educate myself further and research before I purchase the front 3 speakers. Do you have any floorstanding tower speaker recommendation for these?
The set up for the seating is simply 2 rows of 4 seats each, the rear seating row is slightly elevated on a step.
The media room in question is wired for a 7.1 set up (2 at the back wallmounted, 2 at the sides wallmounted, 2 at the front floorstanding, and the center speaker and sub in the middle front).
You suggested that I use 2 subs, but the room is only wired for 1 sub at the front. Would a larger subwoofer be a suitable substitute for two smaller ones? If so, do you have any recommendations that would work well in tandem with my receiver? Also, thanks for the video reference on the sub placement!
All wiring in the room is 14 gauge. I will look into the banana plugs, they look easy and convenient and i'll certainly pick up a couple of those when this is all said and done.
What do you think of this set up /u/homeboi808 ? I have to ask because you seem very knowledgeable in all this!
Receiver: Denon AVR-X3300W
Subwoofer: https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-12SW-12-Inch-Front-Firing-Subwoofer/dp/B00MJ1YR8Y/ref=pd_bxgy_23_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=X61GNYGX8Z19KA6JEN9B
Front Towers: https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-26F-Floorstanding-Speaker-Each/dp/B00LMDYM6W/ref=pd_sim_23_19?_encoding=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=8E24TMRWR6S9TGCZ6W1R
Center: https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-RP-250C-Center-Channel-Speaker/dp/B00S4HA4GQ/ref=pd_lpo_23_tr_t_3?_encoding=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=CW0N9DRTVFS8G4NZGHW9
Side Surround: https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-RP-250S-Surround-Speaker-Each/dp/B00S4HE1QA
Back-Surround: https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-RP-150M-Bookshelf-Speaker-Ebony/dp/B00RXHEIHE
If youre wondering, I prefer Klispch because I get a little 5% family discount on their products from my cousin. I would really appreciate your input!
I have KRK Rokit 5s and use the Klipsch R12SW subwoofer.
My question is, what level should I set the LF Level Adjust on my Rokits so that they least conflict with my sub? Also, I know this comes down to personal preference but what would recommended settings be for Gain and Low Pass with my sub? I listen primarily to bass heavy dance music if that makes any difference.
The Onkyo is nice, I've had one for a while, and I like it, but it doesn't have a remote. I would consider the SMSL Q5 Pro if you can deal with the inputs, but if you're looking for something higher end, I've enjoyed listening to the Teac AI-301DA.
If you're fine without the remote, the Onkyo has been a solid performer for me. As for subs, I've heard and enjoyed a friend's Hsu Research VTF-1. I have a Klipsch R-12SW that has served me fine, but I got it for a song new, and if you're paying full price, the Hsu is a much better value.
Also, if you go with the Hsu, it has speaker-level pass throughs, so that opens up the avenue for 2ch amps without discrete sub outs, and I'm always quick to recommend the Emotiva A-100.
Amazon seems to have them at the same price, but currently out of stock
https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-12SW-12-Inch-Front-Firing-Subwoofer/dp/B00MJ1YR8Y/ref=as_li_ss_tl?s=electronics&amp;rps=1&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1478236801&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=klipsch+subwoofer&amp;refinements=p_85:2470955011&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=zeos-20&amp;linkId=c8a3f587a25a70c26dda508a7e0dc993
Klipsch R12-SW Subwoofer - $213 At Amazon
This is what I found in the shop (for my price range), would you recommend any of those over Dali sub?
Yamaha NS-SW300PN
Klipsch R-12SW
Magnat QUANTUM 6725 A
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Edit: I think I'll go with Dali Oberon 3 + Onyko TX-8220 for now and save up for a good sub like SVS which others mentioned below.
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To get the output from PC to a receiver I'll use the USB to SPDIF adapter you linked. Could you briefly explain to me the difference between the adapter you provided and something like Dragonfly Black - is there a perceived change in sound quality between the two?
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Thanks for helping me out!
Considering you are big into Music with a side of movies - I would buy a 2/3.1 setup and focus on nicer speakers.
You could go with 2 of these towers:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007THXXXS/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_2?pf_rd_p=1944687522&amp;pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&amp;pf_rd_t=201&amp;pf_rd_i=B007ZBIITM&amp;pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;pf_rd_r=1XHVP8H30326NZJEYE50
This sub:
http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-Sub-12HG-Synergy-300-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B003VIWK0G/ref=sr_1_12?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1425991109&amp;sr=1-12&amp;keywords=martin+logan+subwoofer
Price: $1780
or
These 2 towers:
http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-RF-82-Reference-Floorstanding-Loudspeaker/dp/B00TE8OTRO/ref=sr_1_16?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1425991254&amp;sr=1-16&amp;keywords=floor+standing+klipsch
this sub: http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R12SW-Powered-Subwoofer-Black/dp/B00MJ1YR8Y/ref=zg_bs_172568_22
this center: http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-RP440C-Ebony-Channel-Speaker/dp/B00S4H6H26/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1425991391&amp;sr=1-4&amp;keywords=klipsch+center+channel
Price: $1780
Id go option 2, but Martin Logan towers are great. I think you would like either option.
For subwoofers, we are partial to BIC for < $500. The F12 used to be what we recommended to someone looking for an entry level subwoofer cost. However, the next level up PL-200 is current on sale for $250:
https://www.amazon.com/Bic-Acoustech-PL-200-Subwoofer-Black/dp/B00OFXV5IO
This subwoofer was amazing at about $330, and I remember some customers were gleeful about being able to negotiate it down to about $270 by messaging one of the authorized dealers. $250 is really a no-brainer.
For > $500, we recommend one of the many fine subwoofers from SVS for maximum "pants leg flapping" effect.
Generally speaking, "all in one" packages (AKA, Home Theater in a Box) are less quality than buying the pieces yourself. The Phillips unit you linked seems to be a pretty low end package. with everything being powered by the all in one receiver/bluray player. I can promise you, this isn't pushing anywhere close to 1000 watts.
Don't concern yourself with the power rating. In most cases, its nothing more than an advertizing number for these All in one packages. They are likely quoting the max power handing of each speaker, and adding them together, which is unlikely to ever actually be hit.
My suggestion, check out a place like Accessories4less.com and buy a refurbished receiver (I highly recommend Denon, but if you like Yamaha, thats fine as well) you can save a decent amount by going with a refurb, and it carries the same warranty. I've had 2 refurb Denon's and they've been rock solid for me.
For speakers, you want to spend the bulk of your money on the front 3 (Left, Center and Right) as thats where the majority of your sound is coming from. You want to make sure all 3 speakers match.
If you get a good subwoofer, you usually don't need floorstanding speakers. You can save a dcent amount of money by going with bookshelf speakers for the fronts, and just getting cheap speaker stands on amazon for $50 or so.
As an example, many people love the HTD level 3 speakers, the bookshelf version are $379 for the pair, the floorstanding version is $800 for the pair. (quite the difference!) I've listened to the Bookshelf versions, and they are plenty loud, and sound fantastic in my opinion.
For subwoofers, I like to reference the Subwoofer Guide from /r/Zeos Pick the best one your budget and space allow.
To put together a quick system.
$250 for this Denon refurb receiver
$379 for the HTD level 3 speakers
$229 for the HTD L3 matching center
$299 for and the Bic Subwoofer
Total price: $1157
Add in another $100 for speaker stands, a roll of speaker wire and HDMI cables, and you're around $1200 for a pretty decent home theater setup, that I guarantee will blow your current setup out of the water.
Bic Acoustech PL-200 Subwoofer - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OFXV5IO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_p43azb6KPQWXD.
Add these...
BIC America Venturi DV64 2-Way Tower Speaker, Black (Single) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00011KLOI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_H83azbPJTWW6M
And these...
BIC America DV62si Bookshelf Speakers (Pair, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00006JPDI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_m93azbQ5KSMEM
Can't find the center channel model right now, will post later. Edit found it! BIC America DV-62CLRS 6-Inch 2-Way Center Channel Speaker https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00009WBYL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_k79azbVHSM7VV
They sound incredible!!
This thing thumps. It's $3 over budget but well worth it.
Bic accoustech pl-200
http://www.amazon.com/Bic-Acoustech-PL-200-Subwoofer-Black/dp/B00OFXV5IO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1417887891&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=bic+acoustech+pl-200
Have you considered the BIC PL-200
http://www.amazon.com/Bic-Acoustech-PL-200-Subwoofer-Black/dp/B00OFXV5IO
It can be had for ~$280 by purchasing from Sound Distributors directly.
I did see that Amazon has it at $250 right now. It was $330 when I was originally shopping around:
https://www.amazon.com/Bic-Acoustech-PL-200-Subwoofer-Black/dp/B00OFXV5IO
Subwoofer – $249
Front L-R - $750 pr BIC Acoustech PL-980L-PL-980R
Center Speaker – $199 BIC Acoustech PL-28II Center Speaker
Surrounds — $239 pr BIC Acoustech PL-66 Surround Speakers
Best Buy does sell BIC America – just the crappy ones. See if they will order these and price match Amazon. I haven't done the calculations but I think that brings you right in at 1200+ the sub. Or see if you can sell your Best Buy GC. All the speakers have 5-7 your warranties and should last you 15+ years. IMHO
If you want everything around $1,000 here's a decent plan.
Receiver Denon 1500 for $300 https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrx1500h/denon-avr-x1500h-7.2-ch-x-80-watts-a/v-receiver-w/heos/1.html
Subwoofer Bic PL200 II for $300
https://www.amazon.com/Bic-Acoustech-PL-200-II-Subwoofer/dp/B074131NKS
Front L/R NHT SuperOne (2 of them)
https://www.amazon.com/NHT-SuperOne-2-1-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B00LJX4HCY/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=nht+super&amp;qid=1566675258&amp;s=electronics&amp;sr=1-1-spons&amp;psc=1&amp;spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzTTRER1RCUVk0NUdWJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODc2MDc4MUVCNDJUT0VHSjlDMyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMjkwNzU3VUFISldVUFowWllOJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
Center NHT Super Center
https://www.amazon.com/NHT-Super-Center-Channel-Speaker/dp/B00QHDC32C/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=nht+super&amp;qid=1566675307&amp;s=electronics&amp;sr=1-4
Surround L/R (2 of them)
https://www.amazon.com/NHT-SuperZero-2-1-Mini-Monitor-Speaker/dp/B00CKNOYWK/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=nht+super&amp;qid=1566675307&amp;s=electronics&amp;sr=1-5
With a bit bigger budget you would still want that receiver. Bump the subwoofer up to the SVS PB-1000 (most likely). And end up with a lot of different speaker options to consider.
Hey yo, I've been doing my fair share of research these past couple of days and this sub as well as /r/Zeos have been a huge help. That budget can definitely get you started with something nice.
These suggestions are all from reading this sub, avsforums, amazon reviews, you name it.. I really have no on-hand experience as I'm saving up for a build myself. (Here is my post in case you're interested)
That should keep you around your budget and have some spare for cables and any other expenses that might come up along the way. Maybe some cable management or whatever.
Good luck
Hello, I've purchased the Presonus Eris E4.5 for my computer speakers and wanted to add on a subwoofer for a 2.1 setup. I'm debating between the
-Dayton Audio SUB-1200 vs the
-Martin Logan Dynamo 300 and finally the
-Yamaha YST-SW012.
The primary usage is for music in a small room approximately 7'x14' (dorm). I plan to place the sub near my desk. Is there anything else that I need to know about how to hook up my speakers and a subwoofer to my computer? Are there any other suggestions? I'd like to keep the price under $150.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but would I have to connect a 3.5mm to RCA from the computer to the sub, then speaker wire to RCA from sub to active speaker, and then speaker wire from active speaker to passive speaker?
Small apartment set ups are the last place you want to put a 12inch sub unless you want a mountain of noise complaints.
For a room that small something smaller that still clean would be this from Martin Logan while it isn't the most powerful thing in the world its cheap and won't anger the neighbors nearly as much as a 12" Dayton
I stretched my budget to the max but selected out these components. Anything you'd change?
Denon avr-s710w - $260
MartinLogan Dynamo 300 - $150
ELAC B5 Debut Series 5.25" Bookshelf Speakers - $230
ELAC C5 Debut Series 5.25" Center Speaker - $180
Total: ~$820.00
Any way I could get something similar to this cheaper?
Thank you for the recommendations, greatly appreciated. Question - is there a reason why you wouldn't go with a ML sub such as this one? Is the $580 price tag for the VTF going to be that much better vs. the ML for $150?
http://smile.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Dynamo-300-Theater-Subwoofer/dp/B004LRPXAU/ref=pd_bxgy_23_img_2?ie=UTF8&amp;refRID=14V7BNF7GZKQNCY3VKMN
https://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Dynamo-300-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B004LRPXAU
That's the exact listing I bought mine from. They've been discontinued for a while but you can still buy them there. I've never seen it for any other price than $200
I want to buy my first 2.1 home listening setup.
1. What is your budget?
Looking to spend $400 at max.
2. What are you looking for?
I am looking for a 2.1 setup. I was considering getting a pair of Polk bookshelf speakers. I have a friend who works for the Polk corporate office and can get me very good deals, right around cost. But I am totally willing to look at other options in my price range.
This is the sub I was thinking about getting, MartinLogan Dynamo 300 - LINK
This is the amp I was thinking of getting - SMSL SA-50 LINK
Or maybe this amp, AudioSource AMP-100 - LINK
Not sure which amp to get. I am just starting my journey into the world or quality home listening.
3. How will you typically be using the gear?
I will be using this for home listening. Playing almost all music from my computer. I already have an external soundcard and DAC.
4. What gear do you own?
I own an external soundcard and a DAC. Plus a pair of DT 770 headphones.
5. What do you intend on using for a source?
My computer > external soundcard > DAC
6. What material will you be using your gear for?
I will be using my gear to listen to music only. My taste is all over the board. I listen to every genre and do, at times, like a bit of a stronger low end. Other times I like a more neutral low end that doesn't cover anything.
7. Are you willing to buy used?
I am willing to but new but would prefer to buy new.
Here's my space. Let me know what you think. As you can tell a while ago when I had Pioneer floorstanding speakers and my setup (with the sofas) wasn't the best since it blocked the left speaker. I didn't want to raise those speakers too high. Would it be wise to hang bookshelf speakers and mount them on the wall by the screen or would that cause the screen to shake from the speakers that I get which may be too powerful?
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Here's what I was thinking:
Bookshelf speakers: http://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2?ie=UTF8&amp;keywords=Mb42x&amp;qid=1464752605&amp;ref_=sr_1_1&amp;sr=8-1
Rears: I could get matching rears like above or get these: http://www.amazon.com/Fluance-AVBP2-Surround-Satellite-Speakers/dp/B00067OLOS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1464752679&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Avbp2
Center: http://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-C-Channel-Speaker-Tweeter/dp/B00HHFBEK6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1464752755&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Mb42x-c
Sub: http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Dynamo-300-Theater-Subwoofer/dp/B004LRPXAU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1464752815&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Dynamo+300
OR I could get this Pioneer setup.
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/Speakers/Speaker+Packages/SP-PK22BS
How about the HSU STF-1?
The Martin Logan Dynamo 300 is the cheapest pretty good option based on what I could find and should work well in your room.
I would try the JBL's without a sub given the small space that you are working work they may be enough.
good pair of speakers, currently $40:
http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-B652-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B002RMPHMU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1412779300&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=dayton+b652
good sub, currently $130:
http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Dynamo-300-Theater-Subwoofer/dp/B004LRPXAU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1412779380&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=martin+logan+dynamo+300
Try this
Would a set of Fluance SX6's and a MartinLogan Dynamo 300 Sub sound substantially better and louder than my Logitech Z623 setup? The mids on the logitechs are super bland and the bass is muddy but boomy.
Also, what unit would I need to properly hook up the Fluances and sub to a 1/8" computer out?
I should add that i'll be using this setup in a 18x12x10 living room and an 8" sub just didn't work out. I bought and returned a Martin Logan dynamo 300 because at low volumes the sub made no difference to the other side of the room
I'm a little confused if you're saying $500 for speakers alone, or the set up. Heres a list I put together for a friend who had the same budget. Hope this helps.
($200) http://amzn.com/B00B981F38
($10) http://amzn.com/B006LW0W5Y
($12) http://amzn.com/B005EZTUMU
($130) http://amzn.com/B00067OS0A
($130) http://amzn.com/B004LRPXAU
Edit: If you go this route, don't forget these.
http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-ULTRA-Series-Subwoofer-Cable/dp/B003FVYXY0/ref=pd_bxgy_e_text_y
http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-ULTRA-Series-Y-Adapter-Inches/dp/B004EBX5GW/ref=pd_sim_e_4?ie=UTF8&amp;refRID=0HP63MCWR61GRJ58Y5BY
Thanks, very helpful. $180 for that pair is doable, I think. Camelcamelcamel says the bookshelf ones you linked earlier were in stock last in June... Not sure if I want to bank on it being in stock anytime soon.
The receiver you linked before is out of stock... what do you think of this as a substitute? http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavre200/denon-avr-e200-5.1-channel-3d-home-theater-receiver/1.html
Also, opinion on this subwoofer instead of the Dayton? Does it depend on intended usage? http://smile.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Dynamo-300-Theater-Subwoofer/dp/B004LRPXAU?sa-no-redirect=1
So in all, I guess I'm looking at
Receiver $200
Center speaker $60
Sub $110
Floor speakers $180
TOTAL $350 + tax/shipping + receiver price
Would Micca MB42X speakers and MartinLogan Dynamo 300 sub be good to pair up with this receiver?
I just picked up the MartinLogan Dynamo 300 and I'm loving it. It has all the hookups you'd need.
Okay, curious about your tips! I'm quite the noob to these custom setups so I have no experience with either.
What's a better suggestion for going by my feet under a PC desk (very up close field)? I don't need thundering bass, just want to backup where the Micca's can't quite finish the job and make my sound whole!
EDIT: Man, this Dayton 8" looks great and has great reviews. The description mentions an amplifier, I assume this has an amp built in too? Do all "powered" subwoofers have an amp, hence the powered? Thus, I can just use RCA's from my left and right RCA output of my audio card to the RCA line in option on the sub and it would be fine and dandy, the sub's built-in amp still works fine and everything that way?
Sorry for the noob questions guys, haha.
http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SUB-800-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0063NU30K
word on the street is these perform well above their price point. i was going to grab one when i was using those speakers.
If you can push the budget, I would highly recommend the SVS SB1000. Great range, really balanced, and has adjustments to blend into virtually any system seamlessly. I haven't tried any true budget subs, so I am of no use there. Considering others reviews, have you looked at the Dayton line of subs? They are very inexpensive and people seem to really enjoy them.
https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SUB-800-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0063NU30K
I'm having issues with my speakers/sub combo. I have the Presonus Eris 4.5 and recently bought Dayton Audio Sub 800. The sub is wired directly to my PC using an RCA cable and I bought Speaker Wire to RCA cables to connect the "High Level Output" from the sub to the speakers' "Input".
The wiring makes sense to me but I'm not getting any sound on my speakers. I'm getting sound on the sub though. Is my new sub messed up or is it something with the wiring? I have tried two different sets of speaker wire to RCA cables.
I would go with a simple 2.1 setup and run things through the laptop with Bluetooth or network connectivity.
SMSL SA50 50Wx2 TDA7492 Class D Amplifier
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A2QLGEQ/
Micca MB42X Bookshelf Speakers
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E7H8GG2/
Dayton Audio SUB-800 8-Inch 80 Watt Powered Subwoofer
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0063NU30K/
That comes out to $255 and is a solid set up that you can upgrade with a receiver or center channel and end up with a solid home theater.
For the money I think this is a solid beginner setup.
They're pretty cheap speakers. You don't have to be an audiophile to hear the difference between cheap computer speakers and proper home audio equipment.
Computer speakers may be all you can afford, as high quality speakers are usually over $100, but at the $200 price range, there are much better choices than computer brand speakers.
If you want simple plug-and-play speakers, these Audioengine A2s are pretty good.
If you want better sound at this price, you can go with a separate amp, speakers, and subwoofer. Dayton Audio is the most cost effective brand at this price point.
Speakers: Dayton Audio B652 ($51.99)
Subwoofer: Dayton Audio SUB-800 ($79.00)
Amplifier: Dayton Audio DTA-1 ($46.95)
This combo will blow away any multimedia speaker set, both in quality and simply how loud it can get. and at $177.94, it's $30 cheaper than the Corsair speakers.
If you're spending more than $100 on speakers, you'd be stupid to get computer/multimedia speakers.
Doesn't like you've gotten a lot of help so I'll toss a few suggests out there, although getting a decent Bluetooth 2.1 system under $200 is no easy task.
I'll start with the already suggested Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 Bluetooth. It's actually the one of these I've had the fortune of hearing personally. It's also the only that's a complete system in the box. It's not a bad system, but it does have a few drawbacks. First, the system is always in Bluetooth pairing mode. This has been a problem for people living in apartments who have pesky neighbors who connect to them and start playing music. Second, they do sound a little different than the original Klipsch ProMedia 2.1. I wouldn't say they are worse, but they don't have quite the charm in their sound signature that made the ProMedia so popular. Overall I would still the ProMedia 2.1 is a good system in box. But it really can't compete with a proper 2.1 system. By the way, Best Buy has run them on sale a few times now for $99.
On that note, I'll start trying to piece together a few more systems with separate speakers and subs. I'll start with suggesting the now discontinued PreSonus Ceres 3.5BT. They're pretty much the cheapest Bluetooth speakers I can find with a sub-out. They are running about $120 on Amazon right now. That leaves just enough to get this Monoprice sub. You'll also need a cable like this to connect the sub to the speakers. It's not a perfect system, but it's about the best I could piece together and keep it close to $200. I wish you could still get the larger Ceres 4.5BT for $120 but it appears to be sold out most places now. If you could jump up to either the this Monoprice sub or this Dayton one it would probably be worthwhile. You might also find open box stuff cheaper if you shop around.
Would be to get speakers without bluetooth or a subwoofer out like the Swan D1010 or Edifier R1280t. You could them get a sub like the Monoprice 9723 and a bluetooth adapter. You have to connect the bluetooth adapter to the sub and them feed the speakers from the sub. But the time you buy the speakers, sub, bluetooth adapters and cables you're going to be pushing the price into the range of better simpler systems.
There also a few 2.1 systems like the Edifier S350 that are little over budget but might be worth it. Unfortunately reviews on systems like these tend to be scarce.
Speakers
Subwoofer/amp combo
What do you think about this 8" which would basically fit? Good reviews:
Dayton 8” subwoofer https://smile.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SUB-800-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0063NU30K?sa-no-redirect=1
There is this Dayton Audio SUB-800 8-Inch 80 Watt Powered Subwoofer (Black) available though: https://www.amazon.in/dp/B0063NU30K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_alR6CbNRSY5ZN
but I don't know how much better it is to spend extra 5k rupees on it than yamaha. It does have the frequency crossover knob which the sw100 doesn't but sw100 has a 10 inch cone and will deliver more oomphf factor than this Dayton. What do you think u/shoturtle ?
You might be able to get the better R1800 model for that. So look for that first.
Or if you can up your budget to ~$200 you can build a real hifi system:
https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-B652-AIR-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B00NOA58RS
Dayton Audio B652 AIR speakers. Budget friendly bookshelf speaker with ribbon tweeter. Very unusual at this price range.
https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SUB-800-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0063NU30K/
Nice 8" subwoofer from Dayton Audio. Pretty much the only decent subwoofer for $100.
https://www.amazon.com/Lepai-LP-2020TI-Instruments-TPA3118-Amplifier/dp/B071FJF4FF/
Mini amplifier based around the Texas Instruments TPA 3118 amplifier chip. Known technology. Sounds good.
https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-16-Gauge-Speaker-Wire-Feet/dp/B006LW0WDQ/
It's speaker wire.
The speakers are maybe a tad big for desktop use, but they do sound decent.
Suggestion for smaller speakers:
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2/
Micca MB42X, solid recommendation for budget speakers. $15 more than the B652 AIR.
Dayton makes great subs in 12", 10" and 8" versions. I have the 8" (I think it's the 8"... I'll have to double check) and I love it.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0063NU30K/ref=psdc_172563_t3_B00669L3HS
The Dayton Sub 800 should has everyhting you would need and is very affordable. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0063NU30K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_Iq9bzbV755CDT
Thanks! If you don't mind, I do have a clarifying question:
Given how close I'll be sitting to the speakers, would the 8" 80 watt model of that subwoofer still be a decent option? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0063NU30K/ref=psdc_172568_t2_B0063NU3AA If/when we move, we're going to keep our shared space--my gaming space with his gaming/crafting/lounging space, so I'm not going to need something that can adapt to a larger area in the future.
It looks like the Mackie monitors already have mini to RCA cables in the box. My soundcard has a dedicated center/sub mini out, so I should be fine just getting an additional mini to RCA for the sub, shouldn't I?
And as an aside, for when I do multiplayer, my soundcard allows me to use the front jack on my computer as a separate audio output--I've just tested that out with some spare headphones and looks like I won't have to give up that split. Right now I run audio to the TV via HDMI and have my headset in one of the mini jacks in back.
I listen to lots of jazz and classical music, but I also like bass heavy electronic music and house music.
I think my current plan is to save up for this subwoofer.
Dayton Audio Sub-800, not too over powering and great with music. Go out from Yamaha to sub then sub to KEF’s with speaker cables.
Dayton Audio SUB-800 8-Inch 80 Watt Powered Subwoofer (Black) http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0063NU30K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_i_IUL9AbJGQEQD7
$99.00 btw (ie ridiculous value)
Looking for first tube setup to add on 2.1 with headphones. I already have a Onkyo TX-NR626 (will be using zone 2 as line out for tube preamp). Currently have some Sony MDRV6 Studio Monitor Headphones and B&O Beovox s45-2 speakers (currently using upstairs) I can use with the 2.1 setup if needed.
Everything will have to be able to fit under the projection screen. So I have about 2 feet from the floor to the bottom of the screen. Will be a 60/40 split between music (jazz, folk, blues) and movies (yes only in 2.1). Will be watching/listening from about 15' away.
Looking to spend around $2000 for a Tube preamp with headphone jack, tube stereo amp, powered front facing sub, and probably speakers (currently listen to the B&Os upstairs). Any left over money will be going to upgrading headphones, adding a turntable and acquiring a record collection again.
What about http://www.amazon.com/Little-Dot-MKII-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B00A2QMAI2/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1426706908&amp;sr=8-6&amp;keywords=tube+preamp for a Pre amp with headphones.
http://www.amazon.com/NXG-Technology-NX-BAS-500-500-watt-Subwoofer/dp/B008FSTU4G/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1426707035&amp;sr=8-10&amp;keywords=powered+subwoofer+500w for a powered sub
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Douk-audio-stereo-HIFI-EL34-Single-ended-Class-A-tube-amplifier-rectifier-AMP-/281312152025?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item417f82c9d9 for stereo amp? I know there have to be better options. And then what should I do about speakers?
Are you currently using the Sony in that 30x30 room? Where is it placed? I just looked up the spec for both the Polk and Sony and they are only 100 watt peak power? I'm surprised your not complaining there isn't enough bass in that huge room.
One of the main reason is that the weaker sub might not dig as deep as the other sub. You can EQ it so they level out but most ppl just recommend getting the same sub or at least the same size woofer.
Ppl get 2 subs is because 1 doesn't cover the room good enough. The main speakers shouldn't have issue up to 80hz and the subwoofer take care of the rest.
Edit: Also you did probably be better served with something like this as the lowest starting point: http://smile.amazon.com/NXG-Technology-NX-BAS-500-500-watt-Subwoofer/dp/B008FSTU4G/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1425450041&amp;sr=8-16&amp;keywords=500+watt+subwoofer
Hey just came back to say i found the NX-BAS-500 on amazon today for $250! Sadly it's not prime eligible but oh well i guess i can wait a little longer. Only 5 left as of right now so better hurry if you want to grab one (was 9 left when i bought mine a few hours ago).
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008FSTU4G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
I've been trying to find one online since black friday and pulled the trigger today.
Here's a couple things.
I also have a Pioneer SW-8M sub that I ghetto-rigged with an Parts Express amp after the original one stopped working. (You can have it for free if you buy the other stuff.)
I also have a couple Monitors one 24" and one 25" ultra-wide. And a couple coffee machines, one single serve and one combo. An Alienware Alpha. Some other random stuff. (I recently moved to a smaller place and need to make some room.)
Quick update. Speakers are all set, and they sound pretty good. I'm not an expert, and have nothing to compare them to, but I'd say that I got a good deal for $120. Dialogue in movies is nice and crisp, and the mids are quite nice too. I'm very pleased with my first foray into home theater.
Most definitely not returning them!
Thanks again for your help. I'm now looking for a decent sub and a center.
What are your thoughts on the
PanasonicsPioneers?http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-C22-Designed-Channel-Speaker/dp/B008NCD2EI/
and for the sub
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SW-8MK2-Designed-100-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B008NCD2PC/
Edit: Pioneer, not Panasonic
You could go with this Pioneer sub, or see this list. In that case, perhaps consider 2 pairs of those BS22 bookshelf speakers and a center, instead of the Fluance set mentioned before. Just need some speaker stands though.
Hi, first time poster here. I'm about to pull the trigger on my first turntable setup, but I feel I need to check in with the helpful people on this sub with the equipment I'm thinking of buying and whether or not its all compatible. Other things like isolation pads for the speakers, better record sleeves, a cork matt, a record brush, gram scale, and a cleaning kit are accounted for. Are any of those things unnecessary?
The following is strictly the hardware. I've been torn between two different set-ups however.
SET-UP 1: Audio Technica AT-LP120 ($299) & the Micca PB42X Powered Bookshelf Speakers ($120). TOTAL: About $419
SET-UP 2: Audio Technica AT-LP120 ($299), Micca MB42 Passive Speakers ($60), and the Yamaha R-S201BL 2-Channel Stereo Receiver ($130) TOTAL: About $489
I'm also unsure about adding a subwoofer for I don't know if one is essential or just a nice thing to include for the complete package. My eye is on this one: Pioneer SW-8MK2 100-Watt Powered Subwoofer ($160)
Any and all advice is much appreciated.
Thanks for the vote of confidence!
I think I've changed my mind to a Pioneer sub, for some reason it being designed by the same person as the speakers just makes sense to me, and I want the additional control. http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SW-8MK2-Designed-100-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B008NCD2PC/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
As far as wiring, I believe I'll need a RCA y-splitter cable/adapter for the sub (male to male) to go from the amp's sub output to the sub's left and right "Line In". Then I need two (pairs?) of RCA's for the speakers.
The USB is included w/ the amp I believe. Any reason to use a different output from my PC? I'm using optical output from my PC on my headphone amp at the moment, but of course there is the basic stereo jack, etc.
Sound about right?
I live in an apartment building and have a 2.1 system with bookshelf speakers and an 8" sub (I could go bigger but my place is pretty small, I literally don't have room) and have never once gotten a complaint in my current apartment. The only thing that would generate a complaint is a subwoofer, and if you don't have complaints about the subwoofer your soundbar came with, you won't have complaints about this subwoofer.
Just because you have good speakers doesn't mean you have to blast them. Even at regular volume, the clarity and tonality will be light-years ahead of a soundbar, at likely the same price. My TV setup is my secondary audio setup, and I got the speaker and subs together for just over $200 thanks to waiting for sales. Including stands, cables, and the receiver, the whole setup was under $500. And you could go used on the AV receiver or use a stereo receiver instead to save money.
EDIT: I'm not trying to diss you. To each his own. Just saying that you could have done better for the price.
Pioneer SP-BS22-LR Andrew Jones Designed Bookshelf Loudspeakers https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B008NCD2LG/
x2
Pioneer SP-FS52-LR Andrew Jones Designed Floor standing Loudspeaker (each) https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B008NCD2S4/
x2
Pioneer SP-C22 Andrew Jones Designed Center Channel Speaker https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B008NCD2EI/
Pioneer SW-8MK2 Andrew Jones Designed 100-Watt Powered Subwoofer https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B008NCD2PC/
Onkyo TX-SR343 5.1-Channel A/V Receiver https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00WSED53A/
I posted this elsewhere and am just gathering thoughts as to whether or not I should pull the trigger or pass, as I am new to the audio world. I can get this setup for $115, and it would be used as an entry level 3.1 home theatre setup. It is used in good condition.
Pioneer SP-BS22-LR (pair) https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG
Pioneer SP-C22 https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-C22-Designed-Channel-Speaker/dp/B008NCD2EI
Pioneer SW-8MK2 https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SW-8MK2-Designed-100-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B008NCD2PC
It would also include this receiver: Yamaha HTR-3066 https://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio_visual/av_receivers_amps/htr-3066/index.html
Jump or pass? Thanks!
it's not over killing the sound it's getting better sound quality, good doesn't equal loud. Just saying those speakers you're looking at aren't special and your budget could get you far better speakers in terms of quality. For example
You could get 2 pair (4 speakers)
https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Black/dp/B07B4Q5587
Here's a center
https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-Center-Speaker-Black/dp/B07B4VCT99
sub
https://www.amazon.com/Debut-Powered-Subwoofer-Andrew-DS81-BK/dp/B0774KV6YT
It's just a bit over budget but here's Andrew Jones designed speakers, look them up on youtube for reviews on the ELAC Debut 2.0 B6.2 Bookshelf Speakers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLvodAEiveA
If you’re on a tight budget then this is an excellent sub for the money: https://www.amazon.com/Bic-Acoustech-PL-200-II-Subwoofer/dp/B074131NKS
2 of them would be fantastic.
If you’re willing to spend more than that then look at SVS, Rythmik, Monolith, and REL
Try finding the BIC Acoustech PL-200 II on a sale. There's also the Klipsch SUB-12HG as a viable option (was on sale on Fry's recently), but I've read about amp problems with it.
If not, BIC F-12 or Dayton SUB-1500 should do the trick. My budget was <$200, so I managed to grab a BIC F-12 for $180. If I decided to spend more I'd go with the Acoustech.
Bic Acoustech PL-200 II Subwoofer - Gloss Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074131NKS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_rsAKzb5PDG54W
I see lots of commenters recommending high-end stuff which is understandable since you are building your own house and having a large dedicated space for a banging HT. A good 7 channel receiver plus a subwoofer powerful enough for your large room will add up to $1000 pretty quick. Heck, I'd reccomend two subwoofers for a space that large. I will probably get downvoted, but let me help you find some more budget friendly choices.
Receiver $300 - DENON
AVR-X1400H
Subwoofer $300 - Bic Acoustech PL-200 II
Front LR $200 - Fluance Signature Series
* Matching Center - $150
Surround and Rear Surrounds - Micca MB42X 2x$80
This puts you just slightly over budget. also factor in speaker mounts / shelves / stands, cables, etc.... There's obviously lots of options and everyone has their own opinions. Have fun researching, I hope this helps!
You can get an x2300 for $400 but personally I would spend the $100 to get the x3300 to get the more power, better room calibration, and if you play retro game consoles, the analog to hdmi conversion. I have an x3100 and I love it. Additionally the extra $38 is worth it to go to the Bic PL 200 II. It's not the loudest or most accurate sub out there, at that price what do you want, but for movies it reaches deep comfortably even at moderate volume. The F12 in my experience doesn't hit the explosion rumble unless you crank it.
You can get a Polk Subwoofer pretty cheap on Amazon, eBay, etc. I use one in my studio for music listening, and it's more than capable of helping out with what bookshelf speakers can't deliver.
Something like either of these would be fine:
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer-Single/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1518744038&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=polk+subwoofer
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-12-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B000092TT0/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1518744038&amp;sr=1-3&amp;keywords=polk+subwoofer
Also, it might be easier just going with some powered speakers, rather than dealing with an amp/receiver.
Polk psw505 is on sale at amazon right now:[psw 505](Polk Audio PSW505 12-Inch Powered Subwoofer (Single, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000092TT0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_kNQGxbSAYXYZY)
Hey guys,
I have a couple questions regarding how to choose the proper subwoofer for my needs.
So currently, I have the pioneer VSX-70 Pioneer receiver (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Elite+Receivers/VSX-70). I am currently looking into purchasing the Polk Subwoofer PSW505 (https://www.amazon.ca/Polk-Audio-12-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B000092TT0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1510592856&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=psw505).
How would I know if its compatible? Do I need to worry about the power consumption of the subwoofer? Will this receiver power it properly or do I need to downsize?
Any information is greatly appreciated!
Yeah, my price range is more $200-300, I might be willing to spring for something close to $500 but only if it would make a big difference for my setup. The Bic America F12 looks great, looks very similar to the Polk Audio PSW505 12-Inch Powered Sub I had already had my eyes on. Would you recommend one over the other?
A couple years back I bought a bunch of speakers when I was living in a house and had freedom, hooked them up to some junky receivers from the thrift shop and was happy enough.
I'd like to give them a bit better treatment and see just how much I like them after giving them a fair shot though and could really use some advice on the best solution to power them adequately enough for a fair trial, here's what I have, a bunch of Polk stuff:
Monitor 70:
https://smile.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Monitor-Floorstanding-Speaker/dp/B00631YX62/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1517939899&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=monitor+70
Monitor 40:
https://smile.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-AM4095-Monitor-Bookshelf/dp/B0071MSYEE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1517939826&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Polk+Monitor+40
PSW505:
https://smile.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-12-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B000092TT0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1517940032&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=psw505
I was thinking maybe something like this?:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MXUCN0A/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
My source is 99% high quality digital files straight from my PC (2011 MacBook Pro 15").
I'm not in any big rush so would be happy to hunt for smarter used prices, etc. just really looking for guidance. Does it make sense to connect both sets of speakers to the same amp?
Is a subwoofer redundant/unnecessary/harmful for music listening with this set up?
Side question: the Monitor 70s come prepared for bi-amping with little removable metal connectors between the two sets of connectors on the back of each speaker. Am I in any trouble if I remove these connectors and DON'T bi-amp?
Thanks a lot for any help.
Thank you for the advice about the same series. I guess I lucked out with my spontaneous purchase then as I believe these are all the same series. I also forgot to mention I did get a sub-woofer as well. So the whole setup is like this. Think this will be pretty decent for a first timer?
Polk S15
Polk S35
Polk PSW505
And the reciever
Onkyo TX-NR575
I love my AudioEngine A5+ speakers
They sound great, especially paired with a subwoofer. For that, I'm currently using a Polk PSW505
On the left
Yamaha RX-V377
On top of the Yamaha is a Behringer UMC202HD
The mic is a Shure SM7B
On the right side of the desk is my HP docking station for my work laptop. I work from home a lot so it's nice to have a dock.
In the middle there is an Infinity center channel
I've got 4 of these, front left and right and rear left and right
Using a spdif connection from my motherboard to the receiver.
The subs are two of these.
Keyboard is this
As of tomorrow, mouse will be this
And this huge ass mouse mat
I have a pair of Polk RTi A1 and a Yamaha R-S202 and am looking to add a subwoofer to this setup. I live in a small dorm room and was wondering where it would fit in my desk set up or if I should even buy one. What do you guys think? I was thinking that I should go with the Polk PSW505. Or should I go with upgrading my amp to one with less THD?
Relevant links :
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-12-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B000092TT0/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1482828352&amp;sr=1-3&amp;keywords=polk+subwoofer
https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-R-S202BL-Stereo-Receiver/dp/B01EMQI2CU/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1482828608&amp;sr=8-5&amp;keywords=yamaha+amplifier+stereo
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Bookshelf-Speakers-Black/dp/B000V2UBS8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1482828662&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=Rti+A1
Hi folks,
I'm looking for a nice 2.1 setup. Will be a mix of gaming, music, and video. I'm a fan of bass as well. All input will be D/A. I just want to make sure all the components will work together, and if anyone has any suggestions.
Right now, I'm looking at:
Sony STRDH130 Reciever (http://www.amazon.com/Sony-STRDH130-Channel-Stereo-Receiver/dp/B006U1VH2S/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1451707461&amp;sr=8-14)
Micca MB42X (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E7H8GG2/ref=psdc_172563_t1_B009IUIV4A)
Polk PSW505 (http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-12-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B000092TT0)
Also, I am wondering how the receiver provides a signal to the sub, since the receiver has no sub pre-out. Do you connect a coax from the receiver's "Audio Out" to the sub's "Audio In"?
Thanks!
Great!
Try these settings that Fairchild, a forum member, posted up on AVSforums. He calibrated it using professional tools for a darker room, so it might work for you. Otherwise, perusing/searching the forums should net you some more settings that worked for other people.
Best Buy has excellent deals on the Denon 1613/1713/1913 speakers right now. They’re all on clearance or in excellent condition as open box items. The Denon 1713, for example, I was able to buy for 199 before taxes (amazon still shows it as 378.99).
To check online stock, do the following:
Go to the store locator -> Enter zip/address -> click on the stores that are closest to you within the search results -> for each individual store website, click “Open Box and Clearance Items” on the left side -> Shop this store (in blue) -> Under “Shop Best Buy” (left side pane), click “Audio & MP3” -> Under Narrow your results, choose Denon as your brand.
Hopefully you’ll find some good sales.
Speakers.
I’ve thought about the Pioneer SP BS-22 and the Polk 30s. You really can’t go wrong with either, but you just missed a sale where the Pioneers were going for $70.
Depending on what L/Rs you go with, you’d get the matching center channel from their respective manufacturers.
Subs, for our budget, the consensus seems to be the Bic America F12, but others have stated that a better alternative may be the Polk Audio PSW505.
The gist, I think, was that the Polks would perform better if you listen to a lot of music.
Anyways, that’s where I am with my research. My goal is to save as much money as I can, but to spend when necessary to fulfill my needs. I hope that television works out for you. We’ve loved ours and the calibration went a long way. Happy shopping!
Absolute cheapest:
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-627&amp;utm_source=google&amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;utm_campaign=pla
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-628
http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-10-Inch-Monitor-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1374781655&amp;sr=8-6&amp;keywords=polk+110
Better options for good prices:
http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1374781713&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=bic+f12
http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-12-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B000092TT0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1374781700&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=polk+505
The living room was already pre-wired for a 5.1 setup. I was just going to go with an in-wall setup.
(4) of these- http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00006I5O6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
(1) of these-
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004L9DGCK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&amp;smid=A1J7WSBJHTGUFA
(1) of these-
http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-12-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B000092TT0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1347314850&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=polk+audio+subwoofer
Well it will certainly produce some lows, but there is no replacement for displacement. It will reproduce them, but not as loud as it will reproduce the rest of the range.
Add the matching sub http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000092TT0/ref=pd_aw_fbt_23_img_3?ie=UTF8&amp;refRID=1HG10TMCKV9NXZS1SEJW
and it should produce serviceable sound that you will enjoy!
I just got one of these Polk Audio PSW 505's to go with my Polk monitor 70's. 12 inches and 300watts RMS 460 peak! Check the reviews. Discontinued but still some left. A steal at under $250
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000092TT0/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&amp;m=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Hey there! Long time reddit stalker, first time poster! Hoping I can access the font of knowledge here to validate my potential new home theatre setup. Here is what I am thinking.
Receiver: Yamaha RX-V679BL 7.2-Channel MusicCast AV Receiver with Bluetooth
2x Floorstanding Loudspeakers: Polk Audio Monitor-75T Four-Way Floorstanding Speaker
1x center channel speaker: Polk Audio CS10 Center Channel Speaker
1x powered sub: Polk Audio PSW505 12-Inch Powered Subwoofer
Would love any input, trying to stick to around ~1200$ neighborhood. 3.1 is fine for my needs now ( although I may expand to 5.1 down the line ). Any thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
Nakdeyes
DAC: Schiit Modi
Crossover/DSP: Mini DSP 2x4
Powered Speakers: Emotiva Airmotiv 6S
Subwoofer: Polk PSW10
Headphones, open/inside: Sennheiser HD650
Headphones, bassy/portable: V-Moda M100
Headphones, IEM: Echobox Finder X1
Portable headphone amp: Fiio E07K
Bedroom speakers: Emotiva Airmotiv 4S (6S was the upgrade for the main setup)
If you're wondering what a DAC is, it's the processor that converts the digital music to waveform before it gets to the amp. Your sound card usually does this job, but you can spend $30-2300 on getting better sound - Behringer UCA202 for improvement over on-board sound to Schiit Yggdrasil for deep pockets.
Edit: Car: Audison bit.ten, Alpine PDX amps, Hertz HSK 165XL component speakers (4x100w), Image Dynamics IDMax12 subwoofer(1x1200w)
Get a pair of mackie CR3 monitors and a subwoofer. Will kick the pants off the LSR350s.
https://www.amazon.com/Mackie-Creative-Reference-Multimedia-Monitors/dp/B01MFH8CG8/ref=zg_bs_11974991_3
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=zg_bs_172568_1
It's a killer setup because the 3" drivers on the CR3's physically can't produce low frequencies and the PSW10 has a built in low pass filter, so the whole setup can end up beautifully balanced.
Also, when it's nighttime, you can just turn off the sub and not bother your neighbors as much.
Throw in a chromecast or bluetooth receiver, and you are the winner.
Well I don't have any of the audio equipment yet for my desk but the stuff I was looking at was,
The Polk Audio PSW10
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer-Single/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1524763629&amp;sr=8-5&amp;keywords=sub
And for the amp i'm still unsure but something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-OriGain-Compact-Integrated-Amplifier/dp/B01M0SL7YC/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1524763740&amp;sr=8-1-spons&amp;keywords=micca+amp&amp;psc=1
And for the speakers:
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1524763772&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=andrew+jones+speakers
That's all assuming I wouldn't have powered speakers.
Thanks OP!
Bought a pair for a computer build. Added the Polk sub that Amazon suggested. Crossing fingers that the sub is decent.
Looking to get the Micca MB42X and an Polk Audio PSW10 Subwoofer. Can someone help me figure out what is a budget amp that will let me connect these and what aditional cables I would need to connect this to my pc, and how I will be connecting these together.
Thanks
ok what do you think of these?
Subwoofer https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1473000849&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=PSW10
Center channel https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-T30-Channel-Speaker/dp/B013LIN554/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1473000909&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Polk+T30
Speakers 2 https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-T15-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B002RJLHB8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1473000961&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Polk+T15
Receiver https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-VSX-531-5-1-Channel-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B01G5XKNKW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1473001336&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Pioneer+VSX-531
Or this one https://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-SR353-5-1-Channel-V-Receiver/dp/B01CZW7OD6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1473001621&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Onkyo+TX-SR353
or even this one https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V381BL-Receiver-Black/dp/B01BY7YOAY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1473001715&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=yamaha+RX-V381
or https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V481BL-Receiver-Black/dp/B01BY7YPBC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1473002972&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Yamaha+RX-V481
Right now my setup is a UCA202 DAC running to one of these for the amp, then to my sub which does a low pass and then outputs directly to the speakers with the remaining signal.
I'm getting a real receiver in the near future, but still doing my research. Any suggestions?
I was actually considering not using the Alpine type S due to it being too loud
Here is the sub that I'm looking at, there is a picture of the backside with all the inputs/outputs:https://www.amazon.com/Polk-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer-Single/dp/B0002KVQBA
http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-10-Inch-Monitor-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA
I paid $60 I think.
In my room I rock a pretty decent setup; two Polk Audio Bookshelf speakers with a great Polk Audio 10" Sub. Then I have two Pioneer 12" subs in my car along with two Pioneer 6x9 speakers all powered by a Pioneer 1200watt amp. As far as headphones go I typically use SkullCandy earbuds, I hate SkullCandy as a brand but fuck me if they don't make a great set of 15$ headphones, I rarely use headphones however more a workplace thing.
> Gemtume SMSL SA 50 Amp <--- sorry I did not realize that this is your receiver. Here is the sub: http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1464735924&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=powered+sub
there are different levels of it on amazon. You would take your speaker wire from the gemtune and put it into the left/right channel of the sub and then you connect your 201s to the sub. I keep my sub at pretty low levels. This Polk is nice because you can control the amount of bass.
Subwoofers I have been considering:
Do "Mivoc" make good subwoofers?
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I have two of these
http://www.polkaudio.com/homeaudio/products/recent/monitor60/
and the 10" sub that goes with them
http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-10-Inch-Monitor-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA
And I have an Onkyo 300watt receiver. It's underpowered for those speakers, but the sub has its own amp so it bumps. Can rattle my whole house, I love it.
These speakers: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016P9HJIA
This Sub: https://www.amazon.com/Polk-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer-Single/dp/B0002KVQBA/
This Headphone Splitter (goes into your echo aux/external speaker connector). https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Splitter-Extension-Earphone-Compatible/dp/B00LM0ZGK6/
2 of these 3.5mm to RCA cables, one of them goes from the echo to the speaker inputs and the other goes from the echo into the subwoofer inputs. https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-3-5mm-2-Male-Adapter-Cable/dp/B01D5H8KO2/
That sub will be a bit overpowered for those speakers, the speakers will be much louder than the echo as well and you won't even have to run the sub at full to have plenty of extra bass.
The sub is a Polk Audio PSW10 and the AVR is a Yamaha RX-V379BL.
I tried to connect them via a single RCA cable and I even did a single to a Y-splitting cable to see if it helped, but nothing. Any settings I try on the receiver and the sub don't seem to work at all. There's no output. Nothing.
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-T15-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B002RJLHB8/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=1IU7R2EZJ79CS&keywords=polk+bookshelf+speakers&qid=1562420582&s=gateway&sprefix=polk+boo%2Caps%2C187&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer-Single/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=4LE0KNSCOB7P&keywords=polk+subwoofer&qid=1562420649&s=gateway&sprefix=polk+s%2Caps%2C365&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1
I think your best bet is to go with a 2011 Onkyo receiver like the TX-SR309, or the TX-NR509 (has network capabilities, too), and buy the speakers separate. I made my budget system for about $450, and I love it. I'm using it in a dorm room right now, so there's really no room for from speaker towers, so i just have four bookshelf speakers and a center channel, with a subwoofer of course. Look at the Onkyo or Pioneer receivers and some bookshelf speakers; I know a lot of people suggest these that you could use for surround or even the front speakers, too. The subwoofer I got was the Polk Audio PSW10 and its more than enough for what I need.
I use this and am extremely happy. It's an analog setup and I only use computers, so that is fine with me, but if you want to use it with game consoles / DVD players / STB's, you might want to get an actual receiver (I've heard good things about Onkyo's TX-NR series.
This setup is really cheap but very very good sounding for the price, plus if you want to upgrade to a 5.1 or something with a receiver later, it makes a great secondary system for a kitchen or bedroom.
Looking for a compatible sub for my Mackie CR3 speakers.
Specifically, how could I connect the following to my Mackies using an Eskin bluetooth adapter? What splitter/connector cables would I need?
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-PSW10-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?keywords=subwoofer&amp;qid=1567725397&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-2#aw-udpv3-customer-reviews_feature_div
I'm looking to enhance my desktop audio setup, which as it stands is currently just a pair of Audioengine A2+ speakers & a Polk Audio PSW10 10" subwoofer.
I know that I need to raise the speakers a bit, and was looking into the Audioengine DS1 Stand as a starting point.
I've also heard that I should be getting an external DAC like the FiiO E10K or the more expensive Scarlett 2i2. I know that the A2+'s have a DAC built in, what are the advantages of using an external one, if any? I've seen mixed reviews as to whether this is worth it or not...
And, while this is outside the realm of this sub, I also want this setup to work nicely with my headphones (which are currently Audio Technica M50-X's)
Oh and after some searching I found some polk audio subs on Amazon for like $100.
http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA
Is this better or worse than the subs you reccomended?
Polk Audio PSW10 10-Inch Powered Subwoofer (Single, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_F901wbN76NRRK
I have this polk sub and I like it. Like the top comment says, I like to have it just barely on to feel that extra dimension. The back of the sub has two knobs for adjusting it, and can go from barely noticing it, to the sub really bumpin.
New dude here, been thinking about upgrading my Pc speakers.
This is what I've come up with so far
Micca PB42X + Polk Audio PSW10 + ASUS Xonar DX 7.1
Whadda ya all think?
There are powered ones. Check this one out. Its the cheapest new i know of.
Well, first things first. Your speakers can already take RCA inputs, so you should just be able to plug in the record player (if it has a preamp built in), your CD player, or your iPod into the RCA input. If you don't want to plug and unplug the RCA every time, get something like this, which also lets you do centralized volume control.
Get a sub like this, and hook up an RCA splitter like this or this so that your source (whether it's the SYS above or something else) is running into both the subwoofer and the speakers.
Note: you don't want to wire it so that the subwoofer and the source are running into the speakers. That means your subwoofer won't be doing anything. The "one" end goes to your source, the "two" end goes to subwoofer and speakers.
Those speakers are fine, and it's almost always better to have one good setup than two mediocre setups.
Final proposed setup: your sources --> Schiit SYS ($50) --> splitter ($10)--> PSW10 ($100) + Resolv A5.
Super basic Audio technica. I gradually built the system over time, but started with this stereo (used) and these speakers. Later I added some small surround speakers (system doubles as my tv speakers, too) as well as this sub. Granted I don't have a super trained ear, but all together it does sound awesome.
My recommendation is to not go cheap on the stereo side of things. Definitely don't get a record player with speakers built in. If it sounds shitty, you'll never end up using it. If you do want to start cheap with the record player, have it sound decent, but not have to get all the bells and whistles, Audio Technica sells this bundle that has the turntable and two speakers. If you start with that, eventually you can add the stereo receiver, better speakers, sub, etc.
Alright, $250 I can work with ;)
You should definitely listen to a few different things to get an idea of what you want as different speakers are designed with different things in mind and that will change the way they sound. I like a flatter setup from my speakers themselves compared to the "smiley eq" most complete systems have. I'm running just a pair of Polk Audio Monitor 30's with a Pyle PTA4 amplifier for my desktop setup. The Monitor 30's are no longer in production but I've heard these are very comparable: http://www.crutchfield.com/p_107R150/Polk-Audio-R150.html?tp=186
The Pyle amp can be found here: http://www.amazon.com/Pyle-PTA4-2x120-Stereo-Amplifier/dp/B003NVN1PY I personally got mine for about $30 on woot.com one day, you may be able to find them cheaper than this, or build out something slightly different. Again I recommend doing a little research. You can also setup with a home theater receiver/amp for your system. That's what I started with and then moved the receiver to my home theater when I actually bought a decent TV and speakers for it (Polk Audio Monitor 70's). A receiver/amp will be more than the Pyle and honestly I think it's a little overpriced but it was a good deal at $30. You just need a 2 channel amp.
I don't run a subwoofer on my desktop, I generally don't want to be too loud at my desk and the bookshelf speakers are capable of putting out more than enough bass for me. I run a Polk Audio PSW10 subwoofer on my TV setup. You could hook it in with these no problem and if you want more bass this thing will provide. http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1413525800&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=polk+audio+subwoofer, the sub will hook straight into the PC so no need to worry about the amp being compatible, you can always add it later.
We're also closing on Christmas/Thanksgiving. I picked up most of my sound equipment during those sales 2 years ago. A pair of Monitor 70's for $150 each, the PSW10 for $80, and a CS10 for $100. Paying attention to slickdeals.com can save you a lot of money if you're willing to wait a little to get setup.
It does cost a good bit more for speakers like this but you get a lot more speaker for your money. I rarely turn my desktop volume higher than 25% and almost never over 50%, I always used to turn my little 2.1 complete system way up trying to get more loudness out of it. It's also generally best to keep your speakers to the same manufacturer and preferably the same speaker line as they're likely designed together so the ranges each covers will complement each other better. That's why I have a ton of Polk and nothing else.
If you're set on a complete system: I hear Klipsch is good but I avoid complete systems ever since I started buying speakers and amps myself and heard how good they sound so I can't really help much with those.
So I'm by no means a hobbyist. In fact, as of today I just purchased my first pair of ELAC bookshelf speakers. Over at r/buildapcsales, people were raving over these speakers for the price. So I bit! The problem is I know next to nothing about how to set these things up.
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I know I need Banna plugs, speaker wire and an amp (and a sub ^(ill probably buy a) ^(Polk) ^(later)). I will be using these with my new PC I'm building currently. I'd also like to be able to run my echo do (mainly for Alexa functions and streaming music) through this system.
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I have a few amps in my cart atm via Amazon.
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So if I'm planning on sync devices via the echo I don't technically need Bluetooth receiver in my amp, right? What about if I have a Bluetooth in my motherboard? I'm not sure if there's a difference between devices like keyboards and audio devices with Bluetooth.
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u/rnplyr1985
It depends how you want to listen to it. That's a surround sound receiver and unless he sets it for Stereo, he's playing it a way it's not really recorded for. Some people prefer bigger front speakers with their own subs and will play music with just those for more of a "true" sound. I think surround sound and subwoofers are amazing and would 100% recommend it. The best seller on Amazon is actually a great starter speaker for a ridiculously low price ($90).
https://smile.amazon.com/Polk-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer-Single/dp/B0002KVQBA/
What about something like this (seems like a pretty good price for a 10-inch, unless Polk doesn't make good subwoofers):
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1496434312&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=Polk+Audio+-+PSW+Series+10%22+Active+Subwoofer+-+Black
I have a pair of powered studio monitors hooked up to an audio interface via (balanced) TRS cables. I'm trying to add a subwoofer into the equation which only has RCA inputs, and can't figure out for the life of me how to reconfigure the wiring. Thoughts?
Presonus Eris E5
Scarlett 2i2 Interface
Polk Audio Subwoofer
The thing is the current speakers I have now work fine. i am open to buying a new subwoofer if I need to thought. That actually is the particular receiver I was looking into buying. If i were to buy a powered subwoofer could i connect it directly to the pre out jack on the receiver. For instance, this is the subwoofer I would probably get https://www.amazon.com/Polk-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer-Single/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1551132006&amp;sr=1-3&amp;keywords=subwoofer
Could I just run audio cables from the line in jacks on the subwoofer straight to the pre out jacks on the receiver.
Note: This is just for a college apartment setup I am not looking for anything of super high quality at the moment.
Hi, I currently have a pair of Overnight Sensations that are connected to a Lepy 2024A+ amp connected to a fiio e10k connected to my computer. I would like to add a subwoofer to my setup, but I have a question about connecting it. The subwoofer only has RCA input, while the lepy amp only has speaker output. Should I use a Y splitter to split the input from the fiio e10k to the amp and the subwoofer? Or should I remove the amp and connect the speakers to the sub using the speaker out of the subwoofer?
Here are the cables I'm looking at:
https://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&amp;cp_id=10218&amp;cs_id=1021804&amp;p_id=665&amp;seq=1&amp;format=2
https://www.amazon.com/3-5mm-Stereo-Female-2-male-Y-splitter/dp/B00D683FR8/ref=pd_sim_23_6?_encoding=UTF8&amp;pd_rd_i=B00D683FR8&amp;pd_rd_r=Y4RGW8JW7DMCHVRK4ZNZ&amp;pd_rd_w=NKLQu&amp;pd_rd_wg=7qOpE&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=Y4RGW8JW7DMCHVRK4ZNZ
And this is the sub:
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA
I'm moving into a frat house this fall and would like any recommendations for a decent music setup. My budget is $300-400.
I have little experience with home theater setups besides my own research. Some have recommended I take a look at the [PSW10](Polk Audio PSW10 10-Inch Powered Subwoofer (Single, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_JGwzzb700ABBJ), and the Amazon reviews are mostly 5 stars, however the reviews I see on reddit beg to differ; I've seen recommendations for BIC or Dayton subwoofers over the PSW10. I also am unsure what the best speakers would be to pair with the sub.
My room next year is definitely a small room; I'd estimate dimensions are about 12'x12', and I'd mainly use the setup for music but sometimes movies as well.
Thanks for any recommendations!
So I am looking at some gear here and am having a lot trouble deciding where to on putting it all together.
So here's the stuff amps first:
SMSL amp
Denon receiver
yamaha receiver
now the speakers:
JBL
Klipsch
Polk sub
I play a large variety of music from jazz to EDM. I throw house parties as well where, at there largest, I need a set up that can fill up a house and drown out ~100 people.
I guess I'm really curious as to what all of your opinions are on this equipment and what I need it for.
Budget Sub - Match pair of JBL LSR305. which would you pick?
Monoprice 12" (9723): http://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=9723
Dayton SUB-1200: http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SUB-1200-12-Inch-Subwoofer/dp/B00669L3HS
Polk PSW10: http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA
I'm planning on getting this sub here. I already have 2 bookshelf speakers and a small amp. My question is what is the best relatively cheap amp/receiver that I can buy to support this sub and the two bookshelf speakers I already have? I'm using these speakers for my computer. These are the bookshelf speakers here Thanks!
What's your opinion on the Polk Audio PSW10 ?
After further research I was looking at the Edifier R1700BT speakers and they look pretty great, decent price, bluetooth is cool, and the reviews look good. I was also thinking about adding a subwoofer because ya know bass lol. Any thoughts??
Hey Zeos,
I'm thinking of investing ~$250 into a 2.1 setup. How would you recommend allocating that money? I'm looking for good bookshelf speakers that don't take up too much space, this subwoofer, and i don't really know what I'm talking about with the amp.
I toyed with putting together powered monitors and a sub, but if I understand you correctly, a true 2.1 setup with an amp and passive speakers will outperform this setup.
I'm just not sure whether I should buy really nice bookshelves and the lepai amp, or a nice amp and decent speakers. And from there, I'm not sure what products would qualify as which categories.
I own these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KGPEW70
And I want to connect to these:
https://www.amazon.com/KRK-RP4G3-Performance-Studio-Monitors/dp/B016ZHI34Q
And this Sub: https://www.amazon.com/Polk-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer-Single/dp/B0002KVQBA
My living setup is my more expensive setup with Klipsch. I'm running a cheaper setup in the game room. Right now I have Boston Acoustics CR67s hooked up to Fosi 2 Channel.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076P2VS9H/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This is the sub I have. https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-PSW10-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=boston+acoustics&qid=1570216780&s=electronics&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sr=1-9
Thanks for all the replies. Sounds like the next step is a sub.
Here are my options based on comments and a little searching around.
Harmony - Infinity Primus 410
I'm a little bit afraid of this because of some Crutchfield reviewers saying that theirs died within 18 months.
or
Amazon - Polk PSW10
4800 reviews 4.5 average, might be a safe bet.
or
Amazon - Acoustic Audio PSW-10
Most compact, tempted to go this route.
Can I place the sub behind the TV stand? Otherwise I will run the wire under the fireplace to set it next to the couch.
The speakers are 42MBx speakers. I have a top of TV stand coming for the center. I don't know if I would be able to fit speaker stands on either side of the TV stand but I'll look into it. I might think about lifting the TV with a riser so that I can just place the LR speakers on top of the TV stand. If my wife would let me, I'd buy a mount and put the TV on the wall. She doesn't like the idea of putting holes in the wall.
The Swans M10 are very good for their price (currently $90), but naturally there will be much better sounding systems at higher price points.
If you can stretch your budget to around $260, this would be a decent setup you could put together for that price:
I believe either of the systems I suggested fit the bill if all you want is something enjoyable for casual listening.
But if you can hold off on buying until you have a bigger budget, either of the two recommendations made by /u/animus_desit are excellent choices at their price point and would let you hear just how great a good 2.1 speaker setup can sound.
I have this amp: https://www.amazon.com/SMSL-50Wx2-TDA7492-Amplifier-Adapter/dp/B00F0H8TOC/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
These speakers: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008NCD2LG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
This sub: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002KVQBA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
What all do i need to run it to a phone, and also into a tv?
My budget for this whole setup was supposed to be $100, I already had to cancel my order for a MIDI Keyboard so I could buy the Miccas + SMSL Amp, if I really needed to I could cancel my other order for a mechanical keyboard ($100) to buy a $100 sub (something like this maybe?) too but I really want a mechanical keyboard. If it's incomplete without a sub though then I guess I wouldn't have a choice really
It will work....but you have to adjust the bass volume every time you want to change the volume on your setup. I do not lik ereaching under the desk every 10 mins.
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer-Single/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_23_bs_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=HY4SDW358S0V14PE8NBW
^ this one has teh required connections
Sorry, but see the back of this one below which has actually two places to connect RCA (LINE IN red and white)
Polk Audio PSW10 10-Inch Powered Subwoofer (Single, Black)
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer-Single/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1520377542&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=Polk+Audio+PSW10
Looking to get an entry level setup for listening to music, don't have a huge budget or much expertise with speakers. Would the following setup work together? Receiver, 2xFloorstanding, and Sub The two questions I have is can I plug all 3 (specifically the sub) of those into that receiver and does that receiver have a high enough wattage output for the T70's? Or would I be better off spending a little more money and getting this
Thanks for the help!
Have someone else confirm this pairing, but I would think something along these lines might fit what you're looking for and provide better sound/be better for future upgrades.
Receiver:
http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-1712-Surround-Receiver-Black/dp/B004ZP72MU/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1344219585&amp;sr=1-4&amp;keywords=receiver
Fronts (2x):
http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Monitor-Floorstanding-Speaker/dp/B0002Z240W/ref=sr_1_18?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1344219649&amp;sr=1-18&amp;keywords=floorstanding+speakers
Sub:
http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-10-Inch-Monitor-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=pd_cp_e_2
I can't speak first hand about any of these, so this is based on amazon reviews/value.
Buy a new sub. That is a sketchy looking setup you go there. Only costs $120 for a decent sub I guarantee will be a nice upgrade over that Sony crap.
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1482078124&amp;sr=1-3&amp;keywords=subwoofer
What kind of subwoofer should I get for my current set up?
So I'm using a project debut carbon
with this receiver
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F0H88SY/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
and these speakers
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1481493142&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=andrew+jones
And I'm also using an Art DJ with a slight modification.
I've been contemplating getting a subwoofer for a while and I know it'll help with my sound and get me more of an impact and since this is a 2 channel stereo receiver, what cables and subwoofer do I need to get?
here are some subwoofers I found but I figure I'd get an audiophile's recommendation first.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009EU139Y?psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/YST-SW216-Watt-Powered-Subwoofer-Black/dp/B000FJ89UO/ref=pd_sim_23_19?_encoding=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=2M3DZN7DT8YE2P6SFA3Q
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=pd_sim_23_27?_encoding=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=2M3DZN7DT8YE2P6SFA3Q
And for those curious on what I'm going to play on there, here's my record collection.
https://www.discogs.com/user/blakxzep/collection?sort=artist&amp;sort_order=asc
Thanks for this guide /u/ZeosPantera !
I do have a question however since I am having a hard time finding the answer. I am looking for a receiver that can handle 4k HDR passthrough as well as ARC with 5.1 channels. Is there anything you would reccomend from Sony? I am open to other brands, but am not trying to spend more than 300$ I have a xbr800d and a ps4 pro.
For speakers I have these pioneer bookshelf speakers and a polkaudio psw10 powered by this yamaha s201 receiver.
For the center channel, I was looking at this klipsch KC-25 . Currently my set up is in my bedroom which isnt too big, maybe a 10x15 foot room. I'll probably end up picking the surround speakers sometime later.
http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-10-Inch-Monitor-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1334504734&amp;sr=8-1
I've had this sub for a few months now and I've been very pleased. I have a pair of Magnepan MC-12's and despite what everyone says about needing a 400 dollar plus sub to go with them the Polk has performed wonderfully. As far as i can hear it preforms well outside of its price range, and it really does add that extra omph for movies, games, and music
Yeah they should. It's just standard speaker wire and connections. Nope, they require separate sub purchase. What is included is what is linked, a pair of the bookshelf speakers.
The Pioneer set has a full 7.1 purchasable, just click on the different speaker types (i.e. bookshelves, standing and center + the sub). There would be a sub-woofer there. Read below on the disclaimer for my sub-advice, but if you want one I would recommend the one from that Pioneer set, or this one: http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1426305241&amp;sr=8-4&amp;keywords=sony+subwoofer
I've seen that Polk one linked quite a few times and I plan to buy it eventually.
I haven't done much researching on a sub because my setup doesn't allow one without some finagling, and even then it degrades speaker audio on the vintage receiver from what I've read. Not to mention, once you start getting into tower speakers, a lot of them have the full package. For instance, I missed out on a pair of these by a day or two on the local CL for 100 bucks. They're easily worth double that.
Sorry for the ramble, just not comfortable with my sub advice and was explaining why and hopefully giving you some insight on them if you were unsure.
My dad wants to set up the following pieces:
Neither of us knows this stuff really well...Will these work well together? We're upgrading from a Panasonic SA-AK33 stereo, which he'll keep and try to plug it to the rest to be able to play CDs and tapes.
All those units are honestly crap.
If I were you id go with:
Subwoofer (Go with the Amazon warehouse deals offer for $63, thats an absolute steal on this sub)
Amplifier
Bookshelf Speakers
This setup will be much better than any "Computer" speaker system, as all of those are crap.
This requires a bit more setup than those, and this list is a bit more complicated than the one with the Mackie speakers, but its worth it because these are better speakers imho.
What motherboard do you have because many newer ones have great onboard audio (Also in order to help you Ill need to know how the audio plugs are for that board)
That makes sense, thanks for breaking it down. Would there be a way to handle control of the volume with that? For example, would there be a device I could put between the PC and the sub that would control the overall volume? Or is it the case where each speaker/sub has their own volume control that I present on the device, then I use the software volume on the computer to control it?
EDIT:
So It would be:
so is it possible somewhere is there to put a volume knob to control everything or is it best to regulate that from the PC?
That build takes the price to around $600 ish probably after the cables.
I have heard of a build that used something like the Polk Audio PSW10 + Micca's. Is that a viable build I could do for less, or would the price of what connects the two bring the total cost of the system into a similar price bracket?
Also do the JBL's have both a sub and tweeter in them each already? Is a separate sub just needed for very specific use cases? If that is the case, I may just be fine with that already. Thanks again?
Polk Audio PSW10 10" Powered Subwoofer
$89...on sale from $129
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_UWs4DbWZYXFBR
Looks like that soundbar has inputs for RCA, 1 optical, 1 digital coaxial and 3.5mm plus Bluetooth. And that TV only has optical audio out... so not a lot of options there. If it had RCA output like some other TVs it'd be easier.
What you COULD do is buy an optical to RCA converter such as this one www.amazon.com/dp/B005K2TXMO/ and use splitters to split it between your sound bar RCA input and the RCA input of a subwoofer. I recommend this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002KVQBA/
The whole shabang would cost you about 120 plus tax and would sound pretty decent.
EDIT: I just noticed the fiio converter has RCA AND 3.5mm line out. So maybe you don't even need a splitter! You could just have the soundbar connected via 3.5mm to 3.5mm aux and have the RCA going to the subwoofer. That would be less clutter and you won't have to worry about losing signal power from using splitters :)
>V50
fk, I give up. I will buy V50 + SW8MKS($180)/Polk Audio PSW10($150) + BS 22. However, how to step those things up? like I want to connect to my computer. Do I need to buy things like Cable or low pass filter? Or just buy these three? Is V50 strong enough to support these guys?
https://www.amazon.ca/Polk-Audio-10-Inch-Monitor-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=Polk+Audio+PSW10+10%22+Powered+Subwoofer+-+Featuring+High+Current+Amp+and+Low-Pass+Filter+%7C+Up+to+100+Watts+%7C+Big+Bass+at+A+Great+Value+%7C+Easy+Integration+Home+Theater+Systems&qid=1572422507&sr=8-5
Hello I have a POLK PSW10 Subwoofer, along with two Polk TSI100 bookshelf speakers. I was told I would need an amp to power this system, so I was needing help figuring out what amp I should purchase. I do not have much money to spend ~ $100.
Links to what I have:
[TSI100 Bookshelf speakers](https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-TSi100-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B00192KF12)
[PSW10 Subwoofer](https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-PSW10-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=pd_bxgy_23_img_3/140-6661619-8896241?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0002KVQBA&pd_rd_r=9f5ca9c7-d3db-4fea-baae-272fadfa5aa7&pd_rd_w=QHypg&pd_rd_wg=KYjo1&pf_rd_p=09627863-9889-4290-b90a-5e9f86682449&pf_rd_r=8YR47SERGPAK8V63FEWB&psc=1&refRID=8YR47SERGPAK8V63FEWB)
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Thank you
I just ordered these items to build a surround sound system for my living room.
Klipsch - Quintet V 5.0 - On Sale at Newegg for 249.99, Regularly 599.99
Polk 10" Powered Subwoofer On sale at Amazon for $77, regularly $239
Pioneer VSX-530-K 5.1 Receiver On sale at Amazon for 189.99 regularly 279.99.
100 ft 16 gauge speaker wire $10.99 at Amazon
All in all, I bought $1130 worth of audio equipment for $527 dollars.
Hello everyone. I just wanted to get a cheap subwoofer (maybe around 100-150, but it's flexible) to round out my sound system (Micca MB42X, EMPtek towers, B&W CC-6 center, Marantz NR1506 receiver) which I use for vinyl/music, games, and movies. I was hoping someone may be able to help point me in the right direction.
I found these two online and were wondering if they were worth my investment: JBL S10 and Polk PSW10
If anyone has any other suggestions I'd be more than happy to consider them, I just need a sub and can't believe I've gone so long without one.
CEntrance Masterclass 2504s - $350
Maverick Tubemagic D1 DAC - $199
Maverick Tubemagic A1 Hybrid Integrated Amplifier (w/ upgraded tubes) - $239
Polk PSW10 Powered Subwoofer - $129
Massdrop x Sennheiser PC37X Gaming Headset - $120
Brainwaivz Memory Foam earpads - $22
100ft wire w/ banana plugs - $27
Total = $1086
I was expecting some boom when i tested (with the receiver's setup, also some test videos). Before this i had samsung sound bar with the subwoofer and I could hear the boom. Do you think this subwoofer is not working?
Do you think this: https://smile.amazon.com/Polk-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer-Single/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=subwoofer&amp;qid=1555085388&amp;s=electronics&amp;sr=1-3 is better than the one I have? I am wondering if I should replace the current one (since it feels like it is not working) with either the one from the craigslist or this one from amazon.
Home Stereo For Sale
$150 2 Polk Audio Monitor 50 Speakers https://www.crutchfield.com/S-EnJnBIssF7B/p_107MON50B/Polk-Audio-Monitor-50-Black.html
$100 Polk Audio Subwolfer PSW10 119V https://www.amazon.com/Polk-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer-Single/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?hvadid=177223807394\&amp;hvdev=c\&amp;hvlocphy=9052202\&amp;hvnetw=g\&amp;hvpos=1t1\&amp;hvqmt=b\&amp;hvrand=2954660679878654078\&amp;hvtargid=aud-676677759524%3Akwd-2900231065\&amp;keywords=polk+subwoofer+psw10\&amp;qid=1555785110\&amp;s=gateway\&amp;sr=8-1-spons\&amp;psc=1
$200 (Remote is missing the plastic piece on the back that goes over the batteries) Pioneer Receiver VSX-1022 https://www.crutchfield.com/S-jYZs0GLheHL/p_130VSX1022/Pioneer-VSX-1022-K.html
$20 Onkyo Center Channel SKC-100
$400 for everything or listed price for each item.
Do you have any information to back that up? It has an overall of 4.6/5 on Amazon from over 1000 reviews.
On Newegg it has a 5 star rating from 450 reviewers.
So I have not seen anyone give it a horrible review or anyone who hates it.
Alright, was looking at a subwoofer that has speaker level output and speaker level input
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002KVQBA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
where does the 3.5mm to RCA cable go? Still to the amp, or to the subwoofer?
Damn thanks for this! Definitely adding most of this to my wishlist/to-do list. I definitely want to ditch the frame.
Oops! Forgot to include my mediocre subwoofer which DEFINITELY helped when I snagged it a few years ago.
The couch is nice but losing padding every year, Ashley stuff isn't the best furniture but it's big and comfy for a smaller budget and is perfect for the space: Link
I also want to add a 'behind the couch' slim bar for some more seating.
Ok.. fairly good news. Here's my concern. By the time you get an amp and some cables to hook it up, even if you score something great from Craigslist or Kijiji, you may just be better off selling that sub and buying a used home audio sub.
Because that sub, and other subs like it were designed for shallow mounting applications (eg: behind the seat of a pickup truck), their performance as a true subwoofer always suffers to some degree.
Hey sub is, as it should be, designed for a small sealed enclosure. That design works well in a car or truck because the small airspace of the vehicle cabin accentuates low frequency performance. We call that the 'transfer function' of the vehicle.
If you put that same enclosure in a medium size room, well, it will be kinda boring. Sure, you'll get more bass than a set of small desktop speakers, but compared to even a modest true subwoofer, I can't honestly say it's worth the investment.
Basically, this would work much much better, and likely cost you less than just finding the right amp.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0002KVQBA/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1487221820&amp;sr=8-1&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&amp;keywords=subwoofer&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=51JGYWW4N4L&amp;ref=plSrch
If you want to use the MB Quart sub, and I totally 'get' using what you have, then this amp would work:
http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-apa100-class-ab-stereo-amplifier-60-watts-per-channel--300-590
here is what I was looking at
Polk Sub
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002KVQBA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;psc=1
SMSL Sanskrit Dac
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SY9RBOM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3B7WLI720CP9N&amp;psc=1
SMSL Amp
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F0H8TOC/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?smid=A1V0149CC6WCAD&amp;psc=1
Micca bookshelfs
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E7H8GG2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=AFKH6OU9WWNFS&amp;psc=1
Am I overspending for any of those components unreasonably? I come from the PC world, so I want to make sure I'm not putting a top end part among middle tier stuff and making the top end part a little pointless in doing so.
Hi Zeos,
Setting up my first 5.1 system in my family room. I am on a limited budget. I wonder if you have a preference over the Yamaha RX-V379BL or the Denon AVR-S510BT receivers? Also I noticed this Polk sub-woofer wasn't listed, is it something to stay clear of? Right now I can get all of that for $420, does that seem like a good budget setup?
I picked up the Polk PSW10 a few years back for one of my setups and I'm very happy with it.
Hello did you check this subwoofer ?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0002KVQBA/ref=s9_top_hm_bitM_g23_i2/179-6572417-6121111?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;pf_rd_s=mobile-hybrid-11&amp;pf_rd_r=0MJ5Y2N7ZWTXC16H8RNK&amp;pf_rd_t=30901&amp;pf_rd_p=dcf44789-1803-5937-89e4-a649d6b69683&amp;pf_rd_i=172568
Just 20$ more
I'd rather have a lightweight vest that has some miniaturized version of the Aura Bass Shaker handling vibrations, impacts, that sorta stuff....
For subwoofers to really add tactile bass you gotta be moving some serious air... being a basshead I'm all for it, but I'm not sure my neighbors would be happy about it!
These are great: AuraSound AST-2B-4 Pro Bass Shaker Tactile Transducer https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002ZPTBI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_v1fyDbCXMBDHT
I have a simple cheap setup that i use for VR flight and racing sims. It provides a nice rumble, granted it's not as precise as something like simvibe but it gets the job done.
i have the following hardware:
Then i just use voicemeeter banana to sort out the audio. - https://www.vb-audio.com/Voicemeeter/banana.htm
I take the headphone/soundcard audio + VR HMD audio and route it to the voicemeeter virtual VAIO device, and make that the default audio device in windows. Also, I limit the bass frequencies on the output that goes to the amp/shakers using Voicemeeter EQ.
http://www.amazon.com/Aura-AST-2B-4-Pro-Bass-Shaker/dp/B0002ZPTBI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1395709929&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=aura+bass+shaker with http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SA100-Subwoofer-Amplifier/dp/B0002KRAP6/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1395709959&amp;sr=1-6&amp;keywords=aura+bass+shaker If I was you I would wait....the Buttkicker makes it so easy to clamp down without having to bolt anything to the chair...
I use it with every game....It's AWESOME!
The Buttkicker is hard to come by these days, but I've heard that these are a good alternative. Keep in mind you need an amplifier to run it through as well. This one or something similar is recommended.
So there are these things called tactile transducers. They're basically big linear or rotary actuators that are really good at making subsonic bass frequencies. Here is an example.
I have no idea why or how someone would hook one up to your house, but it's the first thing that came to mind for something that could shake a house silently. Maybe look around your house for any devices/boxes that look unfamiliar? Someone would have to hook an amplifier up to one to use it and they'd need power. It doesn't seem likely to me that this would be the source of your shaking, but it wouldnt be the weirdest thing I'd heard of on reddit.
Velodyne is good stuff. Certainly well suited for HT applications. Music less so, but will do just fine even still.
I agree that it wouldn't be worth the effort, but still a fun project none the less. Just need to be cognizant of what those woofers are good at and what they aren't. They'll do home theater stuff to a degree, but they're better suited to thumpy music in a car or garage or otherwise non-critical music-listening focused environment.
Funny you mention couch shakers; I fully agree! I actually have a pair of inexpensive Aurasound tactile transducers bolted to my couch in my home theater specifically because my mains (30+ year-old electrostats) are not offering up any "impact", and my subwoofer is on a foam isolation pad, so it doesn't impart vibrations into my raised wooden sub-floored house; because of young children sleeping and WAF and all that...
The best thing you could hope to do to your HT bass or even 2ch HiFi bass in a given listening room is to have two separete/discrete subwoofers strategically placed in the room - even if they are not stellar subwoofers. This will reduce or eliminate "bass modes" in your listening area. That is to say: two subwoofers on your single "LFE" output from your HT AV/R unit. Having bass emanated from two separate sources in your listening area will help to negate these bass modes and provide you with more even distribution throughout your listening area, dramatically improving perceived bass response.
No, it's actually a different type of subwoofer called a tactile transducer.
This one would have more of a kick than the subpac. I believe drummers use them attached to their stool during live performances to supplement their headphones so they can "feel" the bass drum kicks.
I did. I actually got this one: https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-spa250-250-watt-subwoofer-plate-amplifier--300-803
I was planning on getting the 70W but found this 250W used on eBay for $60.
I actually only got into this because I bought some used "theater seating" recliner things (set of 3, so together it's couch sized) off Craigslist a couple of months ago, and they happened to have shakers already installed. These were the shakers I got for free: https://www.amazon.com/AuraSound-AST-2B-4-Shaker-Tactile-Transducer/dp/B0002ZPTBI
So I'll be powering those 3 shakers with a 250W amp, but I'm also going to buy 2 more shakers and install them on the front row couch. I'm planning on wiring all 5 in series.
I'd like to comment on power, but I don't think it makes any difference if you overpower the shakers, they only use what they need. I've only got one hooked up so far, though.
I have the http://www.amazon.com/AuraSound-AST-2B-4-Shaker-Tactile-Transducer/dp/B0002ZPTBI
I bought two of these on amazon.
AuraSound AST-2B-4 Pro Bass... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002ZPTBI?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
And I had a 2-channel amp that pushes 50watts per channel.
Mounted one shaker to front of rig. The other to the rear. And use SIMHUB to handle the pushing the transducers based on vehicle telemetry. You’ll need a sound card ($8 for USB sound card on amazon) if you’re not running VR.
So this bass shaker. then buy the amp amazon pairs it with?
Those are pretty cool, but fairly expensive. For seated experiences, a decent bass shaker and amp can be installed into most chairs for around $100.
This is everything I bought for my setup, and it's great for Driveclub, Eve, and Rigs:
Lepai LP-168HA 2.1 2 x 40-Watt Amplifier and 1x68W Sub Output https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0070Z87YO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_p2hvyb1DQKT6T
AuraSound AST-2B-4 Pro Bass Shaker Tactile Transducer https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002ZPTBI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_Z2hvybK1X2MTF
Pyle PSC1250 12-Gauge, 50 feet Spool of High Quality Speaker Zip Wire https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003ZX8N44/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_G3hvyb889SGZP
Belkin Speaker and Headphone Splitter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000067RC4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_b4hvybN63W7CQ
StarTech.com MU15MMS 15 feet Slim 3.5mm Stereo Audio Cable - M/M https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004G3WCNK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_z4hvyb7PS049X
I think he's talking about these http://www.amazon.com/AuraSound-AST-2B-4-Shaker-Tactile-Transducer/dp/B0002ZPTBI
I'm posting to let everyone know of a piece of gear they didn't even know they needed. But trust me, you need it...
It's called a bass shaker, or tactile transducer. It connects to your seat and pushes sub-bass frequencies directly to your body instead of through the air and to your ears. It works exactly like a normal subwoofer except has it's cone replaced with a with a mass.
Bass frequencies are notoriously difficult to tune and hear, but these pucks remove the room from the equation and let you feel the exact frequencies directly from the track. It seriously feels like you can count the transients all the way to 10hz
I have the AuraSound AST-2B-4 on my sofa and the Dayton Audio TT25-8 on my chair at work. The Dayton audio is totally sufficient for casual listening and rounds out headphones, but the Aura is so powerful and clean.
So much fun to crank the living room setup, feels like a live show. Movies are so much more dramatic and engaging- startles you sometimes at suspenseful parts.
Music producing is a whole different game now that you can see exactly what's going on at the bottom of your track.
So in conclusion, you need this haha. Here are the two I bought:
AuraSound AST-2B-4 Pro Bass Shaker Tactile Transducer https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002ZPTBI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_dKgXzbY2P9R12
Dayton Audio TT25-8 PUCK Tactile Transducer Mini Bass Shaker 8 Ohm (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009RGJ47S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_4AgXzb1Q77JXY
If you haven't done it already, I highly recommend that you hook a bass transducer (or 2) up to your seat. If you really want to feeling of flying a ship, these bad boys will take your gaming to the next level. They are OK to meh for action games like tomb Raider and what not, but spaceship flying, driving, intense FPS (like Doom), and of course, watching movies are amazing with these things.
I've got a revolution with a transducer. the acrylic tables, 3 monitor stand, and 5.1 mounts. I love it! I game a lot and would run into issues with my hand hurting. no matter what I did, every solution was only temporary. When i got the obutto, i never had problems with soreness again. I absolutely love it. the only problem i have with the transducer is that i'm on the second floor in my house and when i turn it on, they can hear it downstairs. i've tried all kinds of padding to no avail. I got this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ZPTBI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
At the time, I couldn't find a Buttkicker to save my life. Don't know why. Everyone was just out. Mounting was an issue but i found some metal bars at home depot and some nuts and bolts that worked fairly well at mounting underneath the seat.
you can't go wrong with the obutto. the only thing i was thinking of doing was putting it on a raised platform as it's kind of low and if you're not a young guy, might be hard to get in and out of.
i also had an oculus dk2. if you're playing sims, this is a must have imo. provided the game supports it. even if not, there are software injectors that can accommodate you. just not as well as native support would.
Update: I found this JBL SUB 135 (link for example, not mine) for free. I connected its LFE channel with the R-41PM sub out and got barely any sound. I thought it was broken until I realized the remote for the Klipsch has independent sub volume control. I now have one 8" sub connected 3 feet to my right (thought 1).
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Since posting the original message I am really infatuated by the idea of building a tactile transducer foot rest (thought 3b). My understanding is that to do this I would need:
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From what I have read online so far regular stereo amplifiers seem to remove the low end sounds from the left and right channels, and dedicated subwoofer amplifiers are mono.
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You need an amplifier. I use an Aura bass shaker with a cheap amplifier. Just match the watt ratings approximately.
Edit: also look at Voicemeeter if you want to duplicate an audio signal to two different outputs.
This one.
If you want to share please do so. You could also list what you discovered that needs improvement in your design so I can have a shot at making it better. Hey... I can eventually come up with a detailed diy instructions to the ultimate cheapo-ikea-station.
How's the vibrations work on that chair? Is it good?
This setup is amazingly cheap ($80 to $90) and powerful...
http://amzn.com/B0002ZPTBI
http://amzn.com/B0070Z87YO
http://amzn.com/B003TUMDWG
All it takes is one to make a huge difference. Great with headphones on.
Yeah I has to dig around and look at Amazon answers for more wattage information initially myself. This is what happens when I go the cheapest route initially with rumblers just to test it out.
I'm planning on buying one
AuraSound AST-2B-4 Pro Bass Shaker for the final rumbler. But before I drop $50 for it, I'd rather test out a cheaper product first.
I think you would probably want to go with the Elac Debut series speakers.
Elac B6 RL $280
Elac C5 center $180
Elac B4 surrounds $180
Either the Dayton 12 inch sub for $128 +shipping or the BIC F12 $209 for a bit more
Then check out accessories4less for a receiver
Asked in the last thread but a bit late, hopefully more luck now.
Budget: Hoping to stay under $300 if I can
I have the ever popular JBL LSR305's and they're beautiful, but I'm looking to round out my setup past simply having the speakers directly plugged in. I know I'll need a DAC or something in order to get rid of the hiss the speakers get when I have them over 4, but it's an entirely new field for me and I'm getting a bit lost. As long as I have solid quality, I can get the volume up without worrying about white noise, and maybe a volume knob then that'd fit my requirements for the DAC/preamp/whatnot (I know the 305's are powered so don't need a preamp at least), doesn't have to be expensive (I've seen some very pricey systems come up), just solid for my purposes and able to block out the noise my computer might be generating in the input.
Where I'd prefer the majority of the money to go though is towards a sub, the 305's have a lovely low end but I'm big into bass heavy music, especially dub so having a dedicated subwoofer will be needed to get the boom I'm looking for. My first instinct was to look for the paired sub (The LSR 310s) But while I'm sure it sounds amazing it seems like I might be able to get more than enough for less, $400 is a hefty price point, though I remain tempted. I've searched through this subreddit and seen this sub suggested, but I'd like to know if anyone with 305's has a system they might vouch for, maybe have 2 or 3 options, of which I'm having difficulty finding as most of the posts I can find tend to be 2.0 setups.
What subwoofer did you pair them with? I am thinking about going for this...but I am not sure that I would be overdoing it.
My current setup is just a quick and dirty budget (sub 1000$) system I hooked up to enjoy my music.
I bought this entry level Sony receiver, some Sony and Pioneer speakers that all hover around 100-125 watts and this bargain beauty of a subwoofer.
That subwoofer is absolutely amazing and on sale for 300$ off listing price with free shipping if you have Prime. Rich and full sound, not overpowering, good harmony.. You might really be surprised by how full of nuance the audio can be from that sub.
Overall, I'm super satisfied with what I accomplished. Especially for the price. Everything sounds good, I'm especially pleased with the sub and receiver. The speakers are so-so, they're not bad but they're not especially great, either. Good sound for good value.
As for technology.. I just have the Chromecast hooked into one of the hdmi inputs from the receiver. The receiver supports hdmi-cec (if the receiver is off and the input becomes active, it'll turn on) but I just leave it on standby (along with the subwoofer) anyway. Same result, just the power is on and the system is on sleep instead of power off.
I have the speakers and subwoofer hooked up directly to the receiver (copper for speakers, line in for sub).
The first thing is deciding what your budget is and what you want to accomplish. D'you want a 5,1 surround system? Are the acoustics of your house/apartment such that you can designate one room for audio and be able to hear the music from every other room? How are you going to be playing music? Are you gonna stream it from online? A local server/drive? D'you need your equipment to natively have wifi? Will you use an adapter? A Chromecast? For example, Sonos doesn't (yet?) offer hdmi in, are you ok with using an audio splitter/extractor? Questions like that.
500-1000$, especially if you shop around a bit, compare, read reviews etc, will get you good to great audio at bang for your buck to start off with.