Best hunting & shooting optics according to redditors
We found 2,351 Reddit comments discussing the best hunting & shooting optics. We ranked the 856 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
We found 2,351 Reddit comments discussing the best hunting & shooting optics. We ranked the 856 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
Did you put the optic on it?
The no-name chinese import stuff like the 3-in-1 optics are not known to last very long. If you paid the $100 or so for one, that would have paid for most of a quality Bushnell 1-4x. If it came on the rifle, I am afraid of what you paid for it.
A 4-16x50 scope translates thusly:
"4-16": Magnification range. Magnification is adjustable from x4 power to x16 power.
"50": The diameter of the forward most lens.
Lens Size As you magnify, less light is being transmitted through your lens, so while your picture might seem bright and normal on x4 magnification, your x16 magnification might look kind of gray scale and dark. Best way of fixing this: Make the forward most lens bigger to gather more light. Pros: You can see in low light and better at long magnifications. Cons: Adds a lot of weight.
Tube Size There are usually two sizes you'll see—1" (small and light), and 30mm (bigger and heavier). While the 30mm tube is heavier, it does transmit more light, and will also allow more space for windage and elevation adjustments. Pros for 30mm: Extreme long range adjustments, better light transmission at night and at high magnification. Cons for 30mm: Adds a lot of weight, especially if you're never shooting beyond x12 magnification, or at night, or at 400+ yds.
Gas Purging Most scopes are nitrogen filled. Nitrogen differs in weight to Oxygen, so the seals on the scope are more secure, which means less moisture in the scope, which means less fogging. A step up is to use Argon or other treatments that do even better. While a Vortex Crossfire and a Vortex Diamondback might be similar in price, the Diamondback is argon purged, and has better light transmission and seals.
Glass Coatings Think of glasses lenses. If you don't get anti reflective coatings, light bounces off the lenses, which means less light gets through—which is a big deal at x16 magnification. The better the coatings, the more light gets through. Naturally, the better the coatings, the more expensive the scope.
Glass Quality Diamonds have a clarity scale. The clearer the crystal, the more light gets reflected in the facets. Similarly, not all glass is made on the same level. High end scopes will use glass that is clear as they can manage. Getting the impurities out of the glass means more processes, which means more money.
What I personally would want in an AR scope in your application range:
A couple of suggestions along that range:
First place: Vortex Viper 3-9x40, $264.90
Second place: Vortex Diamondback 4-12x40, $164.99
You know they're gonna come back and check on the trap.
Buy a few of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Primos-Truth-Cam-35-Camera/dp/B003PVGA1O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369949746&sr=8-1&keywords=wildlife+camera
Put them up in trees - one covering the gate area, one covering the back of the property, etc.
Collect photographs.
Give them to the police and press charges for trespassing.
That's technically a different one without the high mount. But I'll price match that, and ship it.
Edit: Amazon is selling the one we're selling for $137.70... Which is more than our price.
I really like Bushnell TRS-25. Its under $90 at amazon. No problem holding its zero after 1K rounds.
Now 69.99 http://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Reticle-Riflescope/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1381418979&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=trs+25
Bushnell TRS-25
Obligatory You need the .83" UTG mount to cowitness the TRS-25 on an AR
The cheaper version: https://smile.amazon.com/UTG-Med-pro-Compact-Riser-Mount/dp/B003TX2BD4
The lighter/nicer version: https://smile.amazon.com/UTG-Super-Slots-Picatinny-Riser/dp/B01CKYYH16
Same sight is $20 cheaper at PSA right now: http://palmettostatearmory.com/bushnell-ultra-compact-red-dot-731303.html
If you really wanted the riser it's $10 on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TWZG4G
Amazon had the version with the riser for something like $65 a few weeks ago, and PSA had just the sight for $60 a few weeks ago.
Honestly I would upgrade your red dot. For pretty cheap, you can get a bushnell TRS-25 with a riser (Like $60-$100) and those are really awesome for the money. Other than that, I am fond of the Magpul stuff for furniture, but there is a lot of good stuff out there. Any ideas of what you might want? Here’s a link to the red dot if you care:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00ABP8YCA/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1517979061&sr=8-2-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=bushnell%2Btrs-25&psc=1&th=1
2nd vote for the Romeo 5 if you can find it at $100 or below on eBay with a coupon. Oyahsales, or whatever the eBay company with the good price is called, seems to have caught on and raised their price by a few bucks to offset the frequent coupons.
If not, just keep an eye on gundeals.
I've also got a couple TRS-25s, but since you'll need a pic rail riser and that seems to mean shitty UTG risers, I don't really feel they're worth it.
I realize this isn't exactly what you're looking for, but this is probably your best bet at this price point.
No, you're best bet is a Bushnell TRS-25 or one of the cheaper Primary Arms red dots.
Buy Once, Cry Once.
If you're in the US, you've got Evike, AirsoftGI, Amped Airsoft, and Airsoft Atlanta. There's probably more, but those are my go-tos.
For guns, I'd recommend CYMA VFC-clone AKs (CM040s, 045s, and 048s), G&G Combat Machines, or Classic Army Skirmish line. It really depends on your budget though. If you can go higher, I'd suggest doing so.
All I'd suggest to start with are a battery/charger, and some extra mags. If you don't like iron sights, get a red dot like a field sport with a riser. A foregrip, like one from PTS might be nice as well. A sling might be nice as well. I'm a big fan of my LBX Sling. I'd definitly recommend trying your gun before buying anything.
Check out Vortex. They are good and fairly cheap. Specifically this or this.
On my backup gun I run this Pinty reflex sight. It's cheap and gets the job done. The adjustable brightness is a nice touch if you're playing in a dark/light environment.
On my main gun I run the Bushnell TRS-25. Definitely the best bang for your buck. Great construction and a super clear and sharp reticle.
Lots of Keymod accessories from all the retailers, such as here: https://www.aimsurplus.com/catalog.aspx?groupid=6104 Your handguard has keymod slots at multiple angles, so you can be creative.
In terms of optics, for a red dot optic Vortex makes some affordable ones (as mentioned previously) and they have a great warranty. Their Strikefire 2 is pretty popular: https://www.opticsplanet.com/vortex-vortex-strikefire-ii-red-dot-4-moa.html
As is their more compact Sparc AR: https://www.opticsplanet.com/vortex-sparc-ar-red-dot-sight.html
An even more affordable decent red dot is the Bushnell TRS-25 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ABP8YCA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A7JHWRZ8JNPD6&psc=1
For a magnified scope, there are the usual players such as Leupold, Nikon, Bushnell, Vortex, etc. Just depending on how much you want to spend and at what range you imagine shooting at. Take a look at the Vortex Strike Eagle or the Vortext Spit Fire for a magnified red dot.
There are also "combat" oriented ones, such as the EOTech or Trijicon ACOG, but they get pricey.
FYI Optics Planet has a HURRY75 $10 off $75 coupon going right now, until tomorrow.
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If you're still on the fence:
Aero Precision Ultralight 30MM Scope Mount, SPR
Nikon Prostaff Rimfire
25mm tube though.
Excellent optic.
$278 shipped to PA. No love for the 1x though.
No dice on Crossfire ii
YES on Diamondback 4-12, $159 shipped
Vortex Optics Diamondback 4-12x40 Second Focal Plane Riflescope - Dead-Hold BDC Reticle (MOA) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001EC7KMY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_unn.BbZ1SWV4X
The TRS-25 hits the price/quality mark perfectly for a gun you're just looking to have fun with. The rebate deal they had a month ago is over, but you can still get one for $70 on Amazon.
No problem, it's this one.
TRS-25 if you can put up $10 more
Mueller APV 4.5-14x40mm seems to be the most popular scope for the target shooters on rimfirecentral. I personally just have a fixed 4x on mine for plinking.
Bushnell TRS-25 Inexpensive, and works.
I run a Bushnell TRS-25 on my slab-side Competition and I'm happy enough with it. I mostly just plink steel with it and it's good enough for me.
Bushnell TRS-25. It's running a little high now but I've gotten them as low as $50.
No.
But if you want one that just works, the red only Fieldsport on Amazon is great at $20.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Y3SZEJC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_-gUdBbBPA0SJ9
Next step up but still budget would be a Bushnell TRS-25. Less glass tint, and all around better quality for $50.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_4hUdBbX0PJ5FY
Youll want this riser with either one.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003TX2BD4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_RiUdBbFKT6JE1
If you eventually want a quality real steel Optic, look for the Vortex Strikefire, Vortex Crossfire red dot, Vortex SPARC AR, or the Sig Romeo 5. All can be had for about 120 if you shop around. Vortex optics have fantastic warranties.
If you want some magnification, i eecommend the monstrum 3x prism sight. Let it be known though, that the sight adjustments work in reverse.
https://monstrumtactical.com/products/3x-ultra-compact-prism-scope-black?variant=6824042168366
So for reference, I have a Nikon Buckmaster 4.5-14x40 and it's been a fine scope. I've also used someone else's Nikon P-223 scope and it was good too, so you probably wouldn't go far wrong with either of the ones you linked. But, adjustable parallax is something I probably wouldn't get a scope without anymore, especially for .22 where the range can vary from across the room distance to 100+ yards. The key words to look for in the scope specs are "adjustable parallax", "adjustable objective" (AO, when the parallax adjustment is done by twisting a ring around the objective lens at the front), or "side-focus" (when the parallax adjustment is on a turret on the side of the scope).
If you want to stick with Nikon, it looks like they're making an inexpensive adjustable parallax scope now. The tech specs on that site say it adjusts down to 50 yards, but the mark on the adjustment ring in the picture says 10, and Amazon also says 10 yards minimum, which is good for .22.
On the lower end of the budget, I also have a number of inexpensive Leapers/UTG/Centerpoint scopes (3-9x40, 3-9x35, 1.5-4x32, and a couple others) and have actually been really impressed with them for the money. Their main market seems to be air rifles, which many people take less seriously, but air rifle scopes have to be very rugged, and typically can adjust their parallax to much closer than scopes meant for rifles. And the prices are pretty damn good for the features. This UTG 3-9x32 has almost 2000 reviews and still 4.5 stars on Amazon, is very compact, comes with a sunshade, caps, and QD scope rings (I just got a set of UTG QD rings for another scope and they seem OK so far, .22 isn't very demanding), adjusts down to 3 yards, and is under $80. Amazing what they're doing in China these days. There are a number of similar models from other brands with various features and zoom ranges, probably all made in the same factory in China. I'm not sure if any of them are notably better quality than any others, I mostly stick with UTG for my cheap scopes because I have experience with them now.
One I saw just now is this Bushnell 2-7x32, and looks like it might be a good alternative.
On the higher end of the budget scale, Vortex has a 4-12x50 and a 4-12x40 that are adjustable. That's also more magnification though.
I think its this one UTG 3-9x32 Compact CQB Bug Buster.
How do this fare if you have astigmatism and would this be alright on an AR-15. Currently have this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ABP5UXG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_3ijhAbTNK7W3S but I can never see down it as the reticle is always blurry a second after looking at it.
Bushnell TRS25
Save an extra $30-$50 and get a Nikon, Leupold, or Burris rimfire optic when they go on sale.
Like this one.
Nikon ProStaff Rimfire. Around $100, plus whatever mount/rings you want. I run one on my 10/22 and randomly on my CZ455FS every once in a while. Really great for the price.
I also have a Dead Air Mask awaiting release from prison too.
The Bushnell TRS-25 is a good choice if you're on a budget. At only $52, it holds up great. I currently have one on my Ruger.
Bushnell TRS-25 - Amazon
Sorry to break it to you, but there is a lot more competition in the sup $200 micro red dot market.
They are all more or less excellent. I prefer the Vortex because it has an unbeatable warranty.
Staying under $100, consider this.
The OP mentioned a scout mounted scope, which is usually put on rifles like this. Not good for ARs since you'd have to put it on the handguard which moves independent of the barrel/receiver (unless they are monolithic). Pick up one of the 1-4x options (Cross fire II is a good price) and an Aero SPR mount.
I built this with the intention of doing 3-gun competitions. This is my first build, but I've been around here for years watching and reading. Also..I've asked some questions along the way. I've decided to make this thorough as a mofo as I know in my stalking I'd have enjoyed it!
Here are some previous posts to help guide me:
Building my first AR-15 with 3-gun in mind
[Update] Building AR-15 for 3-gun
Part | Selection
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Lower receiver| Spike Tactical stripped lower $115
Lower parts kit | Anderson Manufacturing Lower Parts Kit Minus Pistol Grip & Fire Control Group $29.99
Upper receiver | Spikes Tactical M4 Flat Top Upper Receiver $109.99
Trigger group | Geissele Super Dynamic 3-Gun Trigger $240
Grip | Hogue AR-15/M-16 Rubber Grip Beavertail with Finger Grooves $21.56
Charging handle| Vltor BCM Gunflighter Charging Handle, 5.56mm BCM-GFHA-4-4, BCM-GFH4 $47.65
Bolt| BCM-Bolt-Carrier-Group-AUTO-MP $178.95
Stock| Mission First Tactical Battlelink Minimalist Stock $49.99
Buffer spring| 25001 - Springco LLC M16 / AR-15 Chrome Silicon RIFLE Spring $27.50
Buffer tube | BCM Intermediate Receiver Extension (A5 Buffer Tube) $50.90
5.3 oz buffer| Vltor A5 Specialty Buffer A5H2 $40.46
Slap plate| ikickhippies Sling Loop Ambidextrous Plate $22.50
Adjustable gas block| SLR Rifleworlds Sentry 7 Set Screw AGB $127.94
Gas tube| Melonite Gas Tube, Midlength $15
Barrel | 16" 5.56 Government Profile Midlength AR 15 Barrel, Modern Series $165
Hand guard | ALG Defense Ergonomic Modular Railed Handguard -V3 13" $154.49
Muzzle break | SJC Titan Compensator $97.95
Optics | Vortex Viper PST Gen II 1-6x24 SFP Riflescope $664.05 (had a coupon)
Scope mount | Aero Precision 30MM scope mount $63.52
Total for gun parts: $2222.47
Tools/Misc | Price
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ALG Barrel nut wrench| $6.49
Lower vice block | $19.99
Upper vice block | $29.99
AR-15 armorer wrench | $45.00 (random one at my local gunstore)
8" 2mm Ball Driver | $19.45
Packets of anti-seize for barrel installation | $3 (Sample packets at my local advanced auto)
Walkers Razor hearing protection | $40.11
Gunsmith work to dimple/drill for AGB pin/set screws | $60.00
Paying to have local gunshop check headspace | $35.00
Total for services/parts to assemble gun: $259.03
TOTAL COST: $2481.50
700 is cutting is close but you could get the savage hog hunter for $450 and the PA 4-14x44 for $230. You'd still need rings and a bipod but that's as close to $700 as I can think of.
Here's the new version of the UTG Mount: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CKYYH16/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
.83 is absolute Co-Witness, 1" is lower 1/3.
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On the left is my first long gun, a Ruger American Rimfire model 8301. It has a Simmons 3-9x32 scope on an Evolution Scope Base. It currently has no other mods. I've considered dropping in the Timoney trigger, but I feel like this firearm is AOK in the current configuration. This was the second time I have fired the RAR with the scope on it. The first time was about a week ago where I shot it off of bags to get it zeroed in. Today, I shot standing/unsupported. That was a challenge. I loaded 5 rounds at a time. I learned that doing an upper body workout a few hours before going to the range can make a light firearm feel really heavy. I think I'm going to try using the higher comb cheek riser to see if I can get a more consistent cheek weld without having to contort my neck so much. My focus this range visit was shooting with both eyes open, and getting as consistent groups as I could. I fired 50 rounds of CCI Blazer. Now it makes sense to me why people shoot prone, use a monopod, or a bipod. Shooting off hand made me realize how much I move when firing. It was a great training experience that will carry over to how I shoot my other firearms.
On the right is my most recent long gun (I picked it up yesterday), a bone stock Ruger PC Carbine model 19101 (non-treaded barrel with 10 round magazine version). This was my first range visit with the PC Carbine. I was extremely excited to get some range time with this one. Prior to this, I had only fired: .22LR, 12 gauge, and .223 from long guns. The .223 was when I took a rifle course at Sig Sauer Academy (loaner MCX).
First Impressions of the PC Carbine
To me, it had all the fun of shooting a 10/22 with a bigger boom.
I was skeptical about trying to use ghost ring sights. I have horrible eye sight, and could not get a sight picture with Tech Sights on a 10/22 to save my life. However, these were really easy to use. I'm going to wait a while before trying it with a red dot sight.
Recoil was fine. It is a 9mm, so it was not bad by any stretch.
Trigger feels pretty good to me as far as break and pressure. If an aftermarket company releases a metal trigger (the actual trigger component), I'd strongly consider adding that.
The only thing that felt a bit odd was the magazine release. I'm going to add the Taccom one.
The surprising thing to me was that it would fit in a cheapie bag that I picked up for my shotgun. So, I'm not planning on picking up a specific bag for this firearm anytime soon.
I'm on the fence about magazines for this thing. Pmags for Glocks are pretty cost efficient compared to the cost of the Ruger SR9 mags. So, I have some research to do.
Eventually, I'll throw a picture of my three Rugers up on here.
Not pictured is my Ruger 10/22 Sporter model 1102. I have made some tweaks to it. So far, it has the Ruger BX Trigger, Volquartsen auto-bolt release, extractor, and then I just got in the Surestrike firing pin and bolt handle. It has the same scope that I put on the American Rimfire but on a Monstrum rail. I still need to zero in the scope for this one.
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I have a 10/22 paired with this cheap Simmons scope. I am very happy with the setup. It's clearly not a top of the line scope but after dialing it in it holds well and has served its purpose pretty well for me. Should be good enough for the kids.
Amazon has the Bushnell Trophy TRS-25 for 52.99 +tax w/ prime shipping.
Bushnell TRS-25 currently 69.99 on Amazon - Currently the best deal going IMHO
Rifle stuff:
Pistol stuff:
Shotgun:
Transport Equipment:
Bushnell TRS-25 with a riser. https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Optics-TRS-25-HiRise-Riflescope/dp/B00ABP8YCA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1466207519&sr=8-2&keywords=Bushnell+trs-25
Best 10/22 scope you will ever buy $ for $ is https://www.amazon.com/Simmons-511039-Matte-Black-Riflescope/dp/B000KOSB34
3-9 magnification, decent glass, holds up well.
I realize this is not the sight you are looking for but the Bushnell Trophy TRS-25 is awesome for a great price. I have shot a lot with this along with my Eotech. you will need a riser along with this sight.
Needed an AR to get into 3 gun. Built one. Most people these days say at the entry-level AR price point to just buy a Ruger AR-556 or a Smith & Wesson MP-15 Sport. And I honestly don't see why when build kits are so cheap. For around ~$500 you can get one of the aformentioned guns. With a factory warrenty and support. But with a A post front sight, milspec furniture, and mil-spec trigger. Basically a plain jane AR in every way.
Or you can put together something with MOE furniture, a 13.5 Mlok rail, a cheap red dot, back up ironsights, a stainless steel barrel, and a upgraded trigger.
PSA upper so far has functioned flawlessly in the first 100rds it took me to function test and zero the sights and red dot. Fit and finish on the upper is just fine. And it seems to be just as accurate or not more for an AR in this price range. The EPT trigger included with the kit is pretty nice. Its probably a little under the weight of a milspec trigger. But it has nearly no travel, and a very clean and crisp break, with a short reset.
Bushnell TRS- 25 is a nice little budget red dot. They were a nice budget optic when I first put one on my Amazon wishlist 4 years ago. They were going for $80-100 back then. Now that they seem to be going for $35-45 dollars regularly it feels like stealing.
BCM Foregrip is really cool. I like the stubby compact grip, functions as both a handstop and a traditional VFG.
The whole build weighs in at 6lbs 12.9 oz unloaded.
Personally, I think this is a much better value than buying a cheap off the shelf AR.
A few notes. Prices are subject to change. I happened to snatch up the red dot at its lowest price available, but they often show up for around $40 or so.
Second I also built this of an 80% reciever because boogaloo. This obviously doesn't include the price of tools and the jig. But I could have just as easily used a $40 Anderson lower. Minus FFL fees because those vary.
Thirdly, this is representivative of what the average joe can build today. I hate seeing "budget builds" that start with people saying they used a once in a life time coupon and just happened to have half the build laying around in their garage. This isn't a gun thing either, every hobby has people like this. Also everyone seems to always have a "buddy" that is capable of doing some normally really expensive or complicated task for basically free. Not everyone went to kindergarden with some guy who just happens to be able to resurface the face of a engine block on their own dime Jim!. /rant.
Fourthly, I painted the reciever with truck bed liner. Don't do this. It goes on super thick, takes forever to dry as evidence from my smudge marks, and fucks up all the tolerances in the gun. But it does fit the spirit of the build. And the battle worn look is kind of cool, if it only fit the rest of the rifle.
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|PSA Mlok Rifle Kit|$399.99|Palmetto State Armory|
|Raw Cerro Forge Lower Reciever|$37.95|Right to Bear|
|Magpul Pmag w/ coupon code|$7.99|Palmetto State Armory|
Base Rifle Price : $445.93
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|Bushnell TRS-25|$36.99|Amazon
|Leapers MT-RSX8S UTG .83 mount|$10.51|Amazon
|Mlok BCM Gunfighter VFG|$18.95|Bravo Company USA
Total : $512.38
The TRS-25 is about as cheap as I'd go for something I'm going to stick on a 'real' caliber. If you're just going to use it on a .22 rifle, there's plenty of stuff on Amazon (NCStar, FireField, etc.) that'll likely work fine.
Maybe I've been lucky, as the three different rebate submissions (red dot, rifle scope, binoculars) I sent in last year all came through. You should be able to get a TRS-25 red dot for $2 after this rebate although some have claimed the Vista web page wouldn't accept the UPC. It worked for me last year.
This is the best price it's ever been on Amazon according to camelcamelcamel
I dub thee: New Palmetto Poly Franken Rifle
Total: $438 plus shipping and transfers where applicable. Boom.
Edit: Free shipping on PSA and Amazon products, Henderson is $11.27 to my ffl on the lower. Total: $449.27 shipped... That's pretty tempting.
2nd Edit: Thanks to /u/Speedkillsvr4rt for the reminder, a budget rear sight. Total comes to $471.68 shipped. We could probably go crazy and add a red dot sight as well but a couple pmags might be a better investment.
It's the $25 Amazon one. It's not bad for .22s, but I don't know how it'll hold it to a 12 gauge.....
https://www.amazon.com/Aim-Sports-Sight-Different-Reticles/dp/B002ZVFF20/ref=zg_bs_3307789011_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=1ZSF70ZK58335BB3B74D
Look for hunting cameras. They have inferred night vision and their own power source. Heres one for $75. Maybe you can find one cheeper.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003PVGA1O/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_Lsqhub15EXVA2
https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Optics-TRS-25-Hirise-Riflescope/dp/B00ABP8YCA/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1538503337&sr=8-6&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=trs25+riser&dpPl=1&dpID=41wdi3vQufL&ref=plSrch
Get this one it will cowitness with your iron sights. If you want lower 1/3 co witness you need the other sight with a different riser. theres actually a Q/A mentions the Ruger 556
Currently $212 Shipped on Amazon. Mount is probably worthless. Even the higher quality Chinese stuff laser etch their logo on the side. If its just a block of mystery metal, it's a bad sign.
Posting photos of everything will help, but I think you need to lower your price.
It's literally going for $275 on Amazon right now https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-Strike-AR-BDC-Reticle/dp/B00S2P2KKS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1474056002&sr=8-1&keywords=strike+eagle
You can get the Nikon for $100ish. It is really worth it. https://www.amazon.com/Nikon-ProStaff-Rimfire-Reticle-40mm/dp/B00SMX95IA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479594771&sr=8-1&keywords=nikon+rimfire+3-9x40+bdc
I have a Bushnell 1-4, It works well, It's not a true 1x, more like 1.25ish but still works as an awkward red dot.
The 223 bullet drop reticle works good for 300blk just at diferent ranges depending on super/sub. granted I got mine used for 100$ I'm not complaining.
TRS-25 for $50. You'll want to buy a riser for it, but if you aren't picky they can easily be found for $20 or less. or get the high-rise version for $88.
Should probably mention a price range. Thats quite a long list of options. BUT if its just a .22 and you aren't looking to spend a boatload, the Bushnell TRS-25 is a great little quality red dot for the money. $50 shipped w/ amazon prime https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Riflescope-tilted/dp/B00CIY7JAU
In your price range (assuming your $500 also has you buying a mount, if not, you can go pricier) I'd suggest either primary arms or Vortex.
http://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-14x-24-illuminated-scope-pa14x-eta-early-may-2016/p/pa14x/
https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Crossfire-1-4x24mm-Riflescope-CF2-31037/dp/B00HYRGODO
In 1-6x:
http://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-16x-scope-with-patented-acss-556-545-308-reticle-advanced-combined-sighting-system-paps16x-eta-late-aprilmay-2016/p/paps1-6x/
https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-Strike-AR-BDC-Reticle/dp/B00S2P2KKS
>Rule of thumb I've heard before is twice the price as what you've paid for the rifle.
OP, this is good advice if you live in the 20th century or have a hundred dollar rifle.
200 bucks will get you a perfectly good 4-12 vortex scope that will do everything OP wants it to do.
Though yeah, like you said, Primary Arms is also a good option for going cheaper. A 4-14 with first focal plane will only run you 230 bucks. Vortex has a killer warranty though.
The vortex Strike Eagle is highly reviewed, but I have not seen one in person. I do plan to purchase one at some point. It is slightly over your budget at ~$320, but I think it is something that you should take a look at.
http://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-Strike-AR-BDC-Reticle/dp/B00S2P2KKS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1451504052&sr=8-1&keywords=vortex+strike+eagle+1-6x24
Having said that Primary arms makes very good optics for the money also. I'm not trying to talk you out of the Primary Arms, just giving you more options to look at.
I know you said you are capped at $100, but for slightly more you can get a Nikon or a Vortex which is a whole other level of quality. Check these out:
Vortex Optics Crossfire II 2-7x32 SFP Riflescope Dead-Hold BDC MOA
Nikon Prostaff Rimfire II 3-9X40 BDC150
There the lightning deals, then there are department deals if supplied by Amazon.
If you search in the prime day category, you can find things like this simmons 3-9x32 for $30 (discount applied at checkout). Some items qualify for an extra 20% off...you need to check the top right corner.
Not a killer deal, just an example. I gave up after 5 min. This subreddit strains my wallet enough already.
You'll be fine with a decent rimfire scope. If you get serious about it you can invest later. I have two rimfire scopes, both around $40: a Simmons .22 Mag Fixed Power 4x32mm and a Simmons .22 Mag Variable POwer 3-9x32mm. They work fine for plinking with .22 and a friend of mine uses his for small game hunting.
More expensive scopes will work for .22, and are definitely nicer, but part of the expense is making them robust enough to withstand the recoil of much more powerful centerfire rounds.
I have the Henry base model. It doesn't have all the fashion of the more expensive ones, but it's an excellent shooter and looks good. I prefer the sights on it to the annoying buckhorn ones on the frontier & golden boy. Might be worth saving the money and buying it (H001).
I also recently got a Marlin 795, w/ 25 round promags and a simmons 3-9x rimfire scope. Gun was about $200 new, mags were about $25, and the scope was around $60. It's the most pragmatic of all my 22s, ridiculously accurate, and if I was hunting small game with a 22 it would be the one (out of a handful of 22s I own) that I'd take. It's rugged, inexpensive, large mags, semi-auto in case you need a second shot, and shoots ridiculously well. I was threading the same bullet hole at 50 yards (bench shooting of course).
I picked this up a few weeks ago.
Simmons 511039 22 MAG 3-9 x 32 Riflescope (Matte Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000KOSB34/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_HA53wbAG04J41
Works real well. Seems like a good scope to me. I also got a nicer weaver rail and weaver scope rings to mount it.
I can vouch for the Simmons .22 Mag scope (also available on Amazon). For the 30 bucks that you pay for it, it's an amazing little scope.
I bought this scope for my .22 and fully expected the rings to suck. I overtightened one and completely separated the thingamajigger that the screw pushes against from the ring itself.
Basically what half-decent rings should I buy to mount it securely on my Savage 64?
About halfway through the afternoon my crosshairs suddenly shifted. I have a Simmons Truplex 3-9x32 scope on a Ruger 10/22. This is the first time I've ever shot this rifle or used this scope. The recoil on the 10/22 is practically non-existent so I don't see how this could happen.
How is this even possible?
It should be a 3/8" dovetail on the top so anything that has a 3/8" dovetail mount will work with it. I use a simmons 3-9x32mm on my 795 that works pretty well.
You can get it on Amazon for like 39 bucks.
I am currently looking at Boyds Stocks for mine! https://www.boydsgunstocks.com/
I also used a BSA Sweet 22 for a scope:
https://www.amazon.com/BSA-Sweet-3-9x40mm-Duplex-reticle/dp/B000NJUPAS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1510700021&sr=8-1&keywords=bsa+sweet+22
trs-25 is 64.99 at amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Reticle-Riflescope/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1415803191&sr=8-1&keywords=trs-25
Bushnell Trophy TRS-25 Red Dot Sight Riflescope, 1x25mm, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_27.IBbZNVGYH0
All day, everyday.
For right around that price point you can get a real steel Bushnell TRS-25 which will be infinitely better.
This is the red dot I got for my little badger. It's super cheap but works well enough for me so far. The only real downside is it makes the gun to big to fit into the carry bag that it comes with, but I chuck mine into a backpack anyway so it was a non-issue.
The sight is rather low profile so it actually looks pretty good on the gun and at the same time gives it a MUCH nicer sight picture. The default sights on this gun are... not very nice imo.
I would return that back to Amazon and replace it with (r/https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00200E0HM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) cheaper and its a Bushnell. I purchase two of these and they have held up great.
I just put a leapers utg bug buster on my rifle. Fantastic scope and more advanced features than you'd expect for less than a bill. Illuminated reticle is also a huge bonus if you use your rifle for dusk hunting of rodents. I can't see using a scope that's more expensive than the rifle. Check out some reviews and videos. I should mention I have a takedown and the length is just right to fit in my bag. I had a simmons before that was waaay to long. Also included are a set of decent qd rings. Imo best value for the money. Went out to shoot it this weekend and it zeroed flawlessly.
UTG 3-9X32 1" BugBuster Scope, AO, RGB Mil-dot, QD Rings https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005UGIMNQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_gjMoDb8JQ22M3
Description:
-Aero Precision lower (stripped, from a local gun store)
-PSA upper kit (http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-5-56-nato-1-7-mid-length-nitride-13-5-lightweight-m-lok-moe-ept-rifle-kit-516446780.html)
-Bushnell 4x (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ABP5UXG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
-Random cheap scope mount
Here is my 10/22. I bought this package which includes the 16 inch bull barrel and the Hogue Overmold Stock. I also installed a cheap bipod and red dot to hold me over until I decide my final configuration. I also own a Simmons that I throw on at the outdoor ranges. No mods to the internals, but a trigger job might be in the works soon.
Go get those damn squirrels. God speed good sir.
I've got this scope, Simmons .22Mag - It holds zero pretty damn well even after a couple hundred rounds, and I don't treat it nice either... and still cheap.
It’s actually a cheap Simmons from Amazon. It surprisingly nice and clear! It feels pretty sturdy as well. It’s an awesome scope for the price!
I picked up a Benjamin 392 and I love it, but I don't know about getting 100-150 yards with it.
It didn't come with a scope, so I threw a rail and a cheapo BSA on it.
Vortex Diamondback 4-12x40, $26x.xx.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B001EC7KMY
Palmetto has free shipping right now. This means they may have raised some prices on certain things so check the price histories over the last few months if possible. The absolute cheapest way is to build yourself. As in buying all of the parts, not just a complete upper and complete lower. Sometimes this can be pretty negligible, though. The way to ultimately build it cheaper by buying piece by piece would be to do it over time, where you opportunistically look for the best deals. I tried to piece together one for you below. It is cheaper than a ptac and blackhawk! build from palmetto, but not by more than 30-50$. But you have more options, can spread out the cost, and you will know the system and how it works much better.
Lower 60$
lower parts kit 35$
Buffer tube/ stock assembly 27$. check around for Sportsmansguide coupons
Blem upper 41$ plus 10$ flat rate shipping. You could combine your magazine purchases from Cope's with the shipping on the upper.
like this 8$ GI mag or this deal for 10 pmags for 107$.
Bolt Carrier Group 80$
Gas Block 17$
Gas tube 13$
forward assist 16$. You may could find this for a few dollars cheaper elsewhere.
Ejection port assembly 9$
free float quadrail 22$ or regular m4 handguards 19$ but you would need this [9$ delta ring]. or the Magpul MOE handguard for 28$
(http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/dpms-ar-15-m16-delta-pack.aspx?a=369258) to go with it.
Bear Creek Barrel, 16" 70$ plus shipping.
Reliable red dot, TRS 25 for 80$ shipped.
and/or iron sights A2 front 18$
Rear sight 22$
So after FFL transfer on the lower (10-30$ depending on location) and shipping on everything you are looking at between 460$ with iron sights, quad rail, and a mag or around 550$ with a red dot and multiple mags.
Cheapest ammo. and at Sportsmansguide where you could ship it with some of the other stuff and potentially use some of their coupons.
you might want to pick one of these wrenches up at 18$ to do the installs.
I know you might only be beating Palmetto prices by around 50-100$, but if you really are on a budget that could make a difference. These prices aren't the very lowest I've ever seen, but they are some of the best I could find in about 5-10min of looking around. Plus, you get the added benefit of buying your rifle in parts, which could help with your budget limitations, and also, more importantly, you can be really familiar with your firearm and its components.
Primary Arms MD-RGBII + Primary Arms Micro Dot Base Mount = ~$120
Sig Sauer Romeo5 (OOS online but sold in-store and can still be found for $129 online) = ~$120 - $129
Bushnell Trophy TRS-25 + .83 Height Riser = ~$64
You can also wait for the Memorial Day sales.
Bushnell TRS-25?
https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Sight-Riflescope/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1525120231&sr=8-3&keywords=TRS25
the one I linked above is exactly the same thing without evike's stupid engraving and $15USD cheaper.
those sights are 'disposable commodity' sights, prone to losing zero when bumped, or even just switching the reticule mode (not that it matters, since they have absurd amounts of paralax for a red dot) but they project a nice big dot/cross/whatever in the rough direction of where you need to shoot.
it might serve you well, or you might find it unbearable. I personally have a continually worsening astigmatism which causes lower quality red dots to look less sharp/'starburst', causing me to look into the lower end of the 'real steel' sight market such as this Bushnell TRS-25 at $80 USD.
since its only $20, buy the NC-star clone red-dot, and determine if it works for you, if it doesn't, look into a Bushnell or a Primary Arms dot instead.
TRS-25: https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Riflescope-1x25mm/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1542748164&sr=8-1&keywords=bushnell+trs25
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Mount: https://www.amazon.com/UTG-3-Slot-Adaptor-Medium-Profile/dp/B00BUVLZES/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1542748401&sr=8-9&keywords=utg+riser
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Shockwave 12 ga.: https://www.gunbuyer.com/catalog/product/view/id/104487/s/mossberg-590-shockwave-12ga-pump-action-14-barrel-6rd/
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Shockwave 20 ga: https://palmettostatearmory.com/mossberg-590-shockwave-20ga-shotgun-50657.html?avad=211021_d13cbc985&utm_source=Avantlink&utm_medium=Referral&utm_campaign=cl
This one is pretty nice, but it's pretty much at the end of your budget. Bushnell Scope
Bushnell Trophy TRS-25 Red Dot Sight Riflescope, 1x25mm, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Qjl7Cb0ZCKE0W
Here brotha. I know PSA had them on a sale for around 68 after shipping. I don't know if the sale is still going though.
Even a simple lateral move would be so much better.
Take the Bushnell trs-25.
https://youtu.be/jGLOd1jHz8E
It's $56 every day on Amazon, and comes down to $43 from time to time.
There are two different models,
https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Riflescope-1x25mm/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=trs-25&qid=1558729196&s=gateway&sr=8-1
https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Optics-TRS-25-Hirise-Riflescope/dp/B00ABP8YCA/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?keywords=trs-25&qid=1558729196&s=gateway&sr=8-2
They are considered the minimum viable for reliable, durable, and cheap, plus sport an ultra long battery life.
the bushnell trs-25 is often on sale for less than 70
and you could probably put a dent into a streamlight tlr-1s
Just run irons for now man, buy a KNS front sight post (I use the .052 dot post but for precision work the inverted V is pretty awesome) and just save the money to put towards your ACOG.
If you are completely opposed to using irons for now, there are a few mid range red dots but they are all battery operated, I am currently using a Bushnell TRS-25 because it has around 128 days battery life on a medium setting. I keep about 1.5 years worth of batteries in my MOE+ grip.
If you are absolutely opposed to a red dot with batteries, the Meprolight is the lowest priced non-battery operated optic that I am aware of.
I just ordered my second Bushnell trs-25 for $69 from PSA they are a good red dot and I also ordered PSA aluminum BUIS for $69 I haven't heard anything about them on here but they were on sale so I figured I'd give them a try.
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-aluminum-flip-up-backup-sight-set-buis-7789731.html
Bushnell Trophy Red Dot TRS-25 3 MOA Red Dot Reticle Riflescope, 1x25mm (Matte),Colors May Vary https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_YJbqybDBPCADJ
Just got this one in the mail 2 weeks ago. Works amazing, the Dot is visible even in intense sun, adjustable brightness, and only $20 over your budget.
http://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-1xRed-Riflescope/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1346692847&sr=1-1&keywords=trs-25+bushnell
The no-rise version of the TRS-25 is
currently $39 on Amazonno longer the price I was seeing...You'll often see the TRS-25s on sale for $35-$40 ish (I grabbed one last week @ $35 for my new 9mm upper). Add in a .83" riser for ~$10 and you're still ahead of buying the taller version.
I just bought this Bushnell. It is a great little red dot, and tough as hell.
I also bought this cheap riser mount because I was putting it on at AR.
I have one and love it. They’re currently $44 on Amazon. It probably has the best quality/price ratio out there.
I found your charging handle for almost $10 cheaper. You could cut the cost of the charging handle significantly by getting a one-handed one. I used the exact same lower build kit for my first AR. The lower build kit does not come with any tools. You're going to need some tools, such as a Castle Nut Wrench and a punch set
This is kind of optional, but you're going to need a spacer if you want to use iron sights (or else the iron sights will be blocked by the red dot sight. The spacer also helps a great deal is making it more comfortable, so your head isn't awkwardly tilted, obviously this will depend on your eye height.
Don't get discouraged if this seems confusing, if all else fails, watch an ar15 building tutorial and everything will be much clearer. Here's another tutorial. Good luck.
I meant why that riser. You could get one actually made for that dot that will look 100 times better, be lighter, and just be better.
https://www.amazon.com/UTG-Hi-Profile-Compact-Riser-Mount/dp/B003TWZG4G
Since you bought Bushnells I'm guessing you're buying on a budget, but this is a pretty good budget riser for a lower 1/3 co-witness.
https://www.amazon.com/UTG-Med-pro-Compact-Riser-Mount/dp/B003TX2BD4
Or if you want an absolute co-witness...
https://www.amazon.com/UTG-Hi-Profile-Compact-Riser-Mount/dp/B003TWZG4G
I use this for my cheaper budget builds. Works fine. Gives a 1/3 co witness. I believe the medium gives absolute. May want to get something nicer if it's for a high end build though.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003TWZG4G/ref=pd_aw_sim_200_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=41D4t%2BWp25L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL100_SR100%2C100_&refRID=06BXBY2NDFQXS63XE7K6
Check out UTG scopes. They make great (for airsoft)(I have one of their red dot sights and it's really high quality) products that are designed for real steal weapons. So while they might be a budget brand for real firearms they are great for airsoft because there is no recoil or anything that would cause your sight to lose it's zero.
I know the one I linked is more expensive than the one you posted about but they have some that are less expensive than the one I linked.
I think you will be fine - just make sure you bring instructions on how to adjust.
Personally I have a UTG Bug Buster that works great on a 10/22.
i might get some flack for this, but i am extremely happy with the [utg 3-9x32] (https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B005UGIMNQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_TgFQDbGPDF4NF). the qd rings are great. a stick of loctite (blue stuff) will keep the threads from loosening. be gentle, vortex and leupold fanboys.
What's your purpose?
I've got this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005UGIMNQ/ref=oh_o01_s00_i00_details on mine (with a riser, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TWX8HS/ref=oh_o01_s00_i01_details) and I've got no issues hitting an 8" plate @ 300y with my 20" AR.
I really like my Bushnell. You can catch it on sale from time to time, but it's a good overall quality budget 1-4.
Palmetto State Armory is your friend. $400 you can have a functional rifle. http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-midlength-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-moe-ept-rifle-kit-rear-mbus-516444983.html
As far as optics go, you have some options. I really like Primary Arms and Vortex. The PA 1-6x ACSS goes for $289 and is a fantastic scope for the money. Primary Arms 1-6X24mm SFP Riflescope with Patented ACSS 5.56 / 5.45 / .308 Reticle Gen III - PA1-6X24SFP-ACSS-5.56 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XD6G7K1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_BfCLAbWJ9A62H
If you want a fixed 3x scope like an ACOG, PA also has you there. Primary Arms 3X Compact Rifle Scope - ACSS 7.62 X 39 / 300 BO Reticle PAC3X300BO https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XQ45FBT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_2gCLAbRR8T49Z
Red dots are your fancy, Vortex is solid Vortex Optics StrikeFire 2 Red/Green Dot Sight with Cantilever Mount (SF-RG-501) and FREE Vortex Lens Pen https://www.amazon.com/dp/B010OT8WAQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_LmCLAbQJSN7PF
Want a cheaper red dot that’s still good? Bushnell Optics TRS-25 Hirise 1x 25mm Red Dot Riflescope with Riser Block, Matte Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ABP8YCA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_poCLAbC6DAVQ4
If you're planning on spending more than $150 just save your money and save up for a premium optic like an Aimpoint, EOTech, Leupold, or Trijicon. If you're looking in the 100-150 range, Holosun makes a great solar/battery powered red dot that holds zero well and has a 30-50k hour battery life(when it's actually in battery mode). If you're looking for a more traditional optic, Bushnell and Nikon have good 1-4x optics. If you're looking for more magnification a Leupold
is within your reach. Vortex has strong offerings in both red dots and traditional optics if you're willing to spend a just bit more. If you're looking in the 50-150 range I'd look into a TRS-25 or Primary Arms for a red dot. For a traditional scope i'd stick with a fixed power optic like this Bushnell, you're going to be hard pressed to find a decent magnified optic with good glass in this price range, fixed power scopes are simpler in construction and offer at least better durability but i'd consider sticking to a non magnified optic under the $100 range. If you're trying to spend even less than $50 there is apparently a very well made $20 Fieldsport which is worth a search on youtube. I wouldn't consider anything magnified under $50 but this is a good range for a cool carry handle with elevation adjustment and retro look. Shooting irons can be more fun than using optics sometimes.
Lots of people like the Bushnell TRS-25 Red Dot, but I personally don't have any experience with it. Vortex makes some great red dots for under $200, and so does Holosun. You can also check out Primary Arms, as they make some of their own brand optics.
I would pass on that. For an extra 120 you can get a much nicer rifle. Buy that plus a cheap red dot like the trs25or iron sights and you be set with a sweet mid grade rifle. His rifle looks pretty stock aside from the cheap looking handguard and possibly an "enhanced" trigger.
I got one when they were more expensive. It holds zero and is a nice little red dot. If you wanna go over more recent reviews, here is the link.
Primary Arm ACSS $289
Primary Arms are good if you like the reticle, I used to own one and I enjoyed it but I upgraded and I honestly can't recommend the Primary Arms unless you love the reticle or want the extra 2x magnification. I can see better with the 4x Leupold than the Primary Arms at 6x. Glass quality is just stupidly better.
Bushnell BTR-1 $199
Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6 $300
Leupold Mark AR 1-4 Firedot $395
Seriously a Leupold for $400. AR Ballistic Turrets instead of caps. Firedot Reticle That you will be able to trade off when you get the money to upgrade. The Precision at Range is a bit crazy if you dial your elevation, especially compared to the ACSS
Leupold Mark Ar Duplex $289
Burris MTAC $325
Vortex Viper PST 1-4 $400
SWFA SS 1-4 $400
Steiner P4Xi $500
$225 shipped on Amazon Prime ($4 cheaper than Brownells pre-rebate). Also $225 on Optics Planet. And $225 at Walmart. Just FYI.
other one has illuminated reticle and is first focal plane, this one is second focal plane (link)
DPMS Oracle for $399 (after rebate) blows this away in terms of quality and value. Throw on a $30 TRS-25 Red Dot and you're good to go.
FYI there's a newer, lighter version of this mount (choose 0.83 for absolute cowitness, I believe).
Could get a Bushnell TRS 25, I own one and its very good.
Its pretty small but can go very bright, the battery also lasts insanely long. I recently discovered Taofledermaus on youtube uses one on their guns.
https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Sight-Riflescope/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1503106898&sr=8-1&keywords=trs+25
https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Optics-TRS-25-Hirise-Riflescope/dp/B00ABP8YCA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1503106898&sr=8-3&keywords=trs+25
As before, the Scorpion EVO3A1's a truly epic gun; you should definitely read the website ASG put together for it which explains what's so special about it. I put together a quick list for a friend who was thinking about getting one a while back; here's what was on it:
Status | Product | Cost | Comment
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Mandatory | ASG CZ Scorpion EVO3A1 | $400 | Perfectly suited for both CQB and field play, this is one of the best AEGs in the world at present.
Optional | ASG Speed Trigger | $30 | Some don't like the plastic trigger supplied with the gun. This CNC-machined-from-billet alternative is tougher and has a shorter pull.
Optional | ASG Steel Spring Guide | $20 | The gun now comes with a steel spring-guide as standard,
Optional | ASG Mainspring (M90/M120) | $15 | ASG offer two strengths of spring for the EVO3A1. One (likely M120, equating to ~400FPS) will be supplied with the gun; you may want to buy the other (M95, equating to ~330FPS) so you're able to play at most common site limits. The spring can be changed in a few seconds with just an Allen key. The EVO3A1 is also compatible with regular AEG springs as long as they are not shorter than the factory ones (this can cause premature engagement).
Mandatory | ASG 75rd Midcap Magazine (x3) | $60 | Three plus the one supplied with the gun for a combat load of four. If you want, you can pick up another three for a total of seven.
Mandatory | Turnigy Nano-Tech 11.1V (3S) 25~50C LiPo Battery (x3) | TBA | The gun has a built-in FCU with MOSFETs, and is designed (and should be) to run on 11.1V LiPo batteries. Although ASG make a slightly larger battery they're more than twice the price and have an inferior Coulomb rating. You'll only need two batteries for a day's play, but for $11 each you may as well pick up a spare.
Mandatory | Turnigy E3 Compact 2S/3S LiPo Balance Charger | $13 | This is a simple balance charger. It won't do clever things like charge to storage voltage, or fast-charge, or discharge, and it will only charge 2S/3S LiPos - but it is very cheap and simple to operate.
Mandatory | Turnigy DLUX LiPo Balancer/Tester | $12 | This balances the individual cells of the battery (preventing one from dropping below the 3.0V minimum) and will tell you the remaining capacity of the entire battery and the voltages of the individual cells (likewise).
| Total: | $553 |
I also included a short list of accessories for how I would personally accessorise the gun - this isn't necessarily the best way to do it and your choices are very much up to you:
Status | Product | Cost | Comment
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Optional | Xcortech X3300W Advanced BB Control System | $125 | A truly amazing system that incorporates round counter, tracer and chronograph functionality. It will tell you how many rounds are left in the magazine, which is especially useful with the Scorpion's relatively low-capacity mid-caps. Watch it in action here.
Optional | ASG 18-14mm Thread Adapter | $17 | Required to fit most airsoft suppressors (including the X3300W) to the EVO3A1.
Optional | Bushnell TRS-25 | $75 | The best budget red-dot scope on the market and very well-suited to the compact EVO3A1. The TRS-25 Hi-Rise ($90) comes with a tall mount (there are better-looking options available) which will allow you to get a good sight picture even with a poor cheek weld owing to lower-face protection, and will also allow you to mount the X3300W's command/display unit on the top rail without obscuring the sight picture.
Optional | Element M300AA | $40 | A clone of the SureFire M300 Mini Scout Light, modified to use AA (rather than CR123A) batteries.
Optional | Element Tape Switch | $20 | A clone of the SureFire SR-07 rail-mounted tape switch - lets you put the switch where your thumb is, on the other side of the gun to the flashlight.
Optional | MagPul Rail Light Mount (Right) | $30 | Mounts the flashlight up and out of your way, and fits in with the XTMs. Minus the crappy optic, substituting the crap flashlight for the M300AA, and plus the X3300W and rail panels it would look a bit like this.
Optional | MagPul XTM Enhanced Rail Panels | $8 | Protects the rails and makes the gun more comfortable to hold.
Optional | MagPul XTM Hand Stop Kit | $20 | Protects the rails and makes the gun more comfortable to hold.
Optional | ASG Scorpion EVO3A1 Soft Carry Case | $40 | Usually neglected by airsofters, and usually to their cost, this is suitable for travel and storage.
You'd need to add 4x AAA batteries (for the tracer/chronograph unit), 3x AA batteries (for the command/display unit and for the flashlight), polycarbonate lens protectors for the flashlight and the RDS, and you'd be done.
Trs 25 goes on sale at Amazon for under $40 about once a month. Watch r/gundeals. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00ABP8YCA/ref=ya_aw_oh_bia_dp?ie=UTF8&psc=1&th=1
Top link here
I have the Bushnell. Its just above your price range, but I'm really happy with it.
Bushnell Optics FFP Illuminated BTR-1 BDC Reticle Riflescope with Target Turrets and Throw Down PCL, 1-4x 24mm https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AU6EIIY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_r2MJyb4CMQTXS
And you need to buy rings too. So price ends up being around $300.
On my rifle. https://imgur.com/DdBA6MC
Like the others said, for under $200 I'd go with some decent iron sites though. Can never go wrong with that
I got this in a primary arms premium mount and butler caps for around $200 shipped. It's more than good for what you need, and pretty much any similar optic that will be recommended will do you well.
http://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Illuminated-Reticle-Riflescope-Turrets/dp/B00AU6EIIY
https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Illuminated-Reticle-Riflescope-Turrets/dp/B00AU6EIIY
This is the one i'm going to grab when i scare up some fun money from the wife. I sold my Strikefire for the same astigmatism reasons
This.
Bushnell AR Optics FFP Illuminated BTR-1 BDC Reticle AR-223 Riflescope with Target Turrets and Throw Down PCL, 1-4x 24mm https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AU6EIIY/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_Qs-rub0SNX9JY
I got one of these Bushnell's. 1-4, illuminated reticle, and 200 bucks on sale from 420 off amazon!
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AU6EIIY/ref=pe_385040_127541860_TE_dp_1
Did you ever get that Vortex elsewhere? If not, I've been pretty happy with this.
The Bushnell AR optics 1-4x would be much better on that rifle. A minimum magnification of 4.5x kind of makes close range more difficult.
http://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Illuminated-Reticle-Riflescope-Turrets/dp/B00AU6EIIY
Non-mobile: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AU6EIIY/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1426591114&sr=8-1&keywords=1-6+scope&pi=AC_SY200_QL40
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00AU6EIIY
It's one of these. Although it was like 289 when I bought it so at this point it's down to the price of a nice replica scope. It's very nice for airsoft, ffp is really cool and very surprising to see in an optic this inexpensive.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00AU6EIIY/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1426591114&sr=8-1&keywords=1-6+scope&pi=AC_SY200_QL40
I like my Bushnell FFP 1-4x24 on my Sig556. Target turrets in .1Mil clicks and damn good glass for the money. I have the model with the cat tail pre-installed for highspeed paper punching.
I use this this one. I like it a lot. It's quite popular too.
http://www.amazon.com/Maglula-UpLula-Magazine-Loader-Unloader/dp/B0187CVJC0
http://www.cabelas.com/product/th-Anniversary-Breech-Lock-Challenger-Kit/740258.uts?productVariantId=4322421&srccode=cii_17588969&cpncode=37-164967157-2&WT.tsrc=PPC&WT.mc_id=GoogleProductAds&WT.z_mc_id1=04275035&rid=20
http://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Riflescope-tilted/dp/B00CIY7JAU
https://www.magpacker.com/
Just my .02
Magazine loader, beginners reloading kit, bushnell trs25 for his 10/22 and what I got for my birthday from my wife and I love it. She got me the upgraded wood on the Mag Packer and that thing is awesome
Amazon for $60. I don't know why I was thinking $50 sorry
I do remember hearing about a difference between TRS-25 models of a different age (or manufacture location) and being able to potentially tell the difference by the color of the lettering.
I honestly can't remember if mine has white lettering or not, but a quick GIS seems to show that it's relatively common in the sight picture.
EDIT: After knowing that I had read about it somewhere, the Amazon Listing was where I saw the info about the adhesive. I wouldn't worry about it too much.
Bushnell Trs-25. Wait for a sale.
EDIT: https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Riflescope-tilted/dp/B00CIY7JAU
I definitely didn't want anything magnified, just a red dot. When I said Bushnell Trophy I meant the TRS-25 not the hunting scopes lol
I have a few options for you. I have never heard of a magnifer that has adjustable magnification.
Option 1
-Get The Vortex Crossfire II with the Mount.
-Get something like this and mount the Holosun on top of the scope or simply just set it aside.
-This will take you slightly above $300
Option 2
-Return the Holosun
-Get the Vortex Strike Eagle Package
-Because you paid $300 for the Holosun and will pay another $300 for the magnifier, buying the Strike Eagle package leaves you with $200 to do whatever you want with.
http://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-DBK-04-BDC-Diamondback-Riflescope/dp/B001EC7KMY/ref=sr_1_2?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1451575137&sr=1-2&keywords=vortex+diamondback
If you're deadset on low magnification, http://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Crossfire-1-4x24mm-Riflescope-CF2-31037/dp/B00HYRGODO/ref=sr_1_4?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1451575315&sr=1-4&keywords=vortex+strike+eagle
Vortex makes great optics for the price. Look for them on Amazon and you can probably find something appropriate for your lever gun. I have a Crossfire II 1-4x24 on my Henry Big Boy and it looks and works great. You might want more than 4x for your .308 at 300yd though.
You will probably also want to get a hammer extension. Getting your thumb on the hammer can be hard with an optic on there.
I have the same scope coming in shortly, I'm pairing it with the Aero 30mm SPR mount.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JVTD4EK/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_TdjSDbXNEEBDP
I think this would be a good mount. Aero Precision makes good products. https://www.amazon.com/Aero-Precision-ULTRALIGHT-SCOPE-MOUNT/dp/B00JVTD4EK/
http://www.amazon.com/Primary-Arms-4-14X-Tactical-PA4-14XFFP/dp/B00L5IL5X2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1465192120&sr=8-1&keywords=primary+arms+ffp
http://www.amazon.com/Weaver-Tactical-Medium-Rings-Matte/dp/B003RC54QI/ref=sr_1_21?s=sports-and-fitness&ie=UTF8&qid=1465192328&sr=1-21&keywords=scope+rings
http://www.amazon.com/Caldwell-Pivot-Model-Bipod-Inch/dp/B0032MUIL4/ref=sr_1_1?s=sports-and-fitness&ie=UTF8&qid=1465192197&sr=1-1&keywords=caldwell+bipod
ah shoot sorry you are correct that isn't even the one I have lol! I have this one.
I have two of the 4-14 FFPs, they are perfectly usable.
Buy it on Amazon to save on shipping:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00L5IL5X2/
I have a vortex spitfire 3x and really like it. Much better than the strikefire. I've also used the crossfire II which is pretty decent basic hunting oriented scope. I'd also consider this one for the price too. https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-Strike-AR-BDC-Reticle/dp/B00S2P2KKS/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?ie=UTF8&dpID=31ydtJDvWeL&dpPl=1&keywords=vortex%20strike%20eagle&pi=SX200_QL40&qid=1474094071&ref=plSrch&ref_=mp_s_a_1_1&sr=8-1
Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6x24 for optic, Aero Precision lightweight 30mm cantilever mount for mounting said optic, to an Aero Precision M4E1 upper 16".
http://aeroprecisionusa.com/m4e1-16in-556-m4-carbine-complete-upper.html
https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-Strike-AR-BDC-Reticle/dp/B00S2P2KKS
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009N24RN2/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480372310&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=vortex+mount&dpPl=1&dpID=31tyDHeiVOL&ref=plSrch
This scope is the bomb diggity.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.amazon.com/Nikon-PROSTAFF-RIMFIRE-3-9X40-BDC150/dp/B00SMX95IA&ved=2ahUKEwjnqsPw4sHgAhUJU98KHWdMDusQFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw0jE3-SfK0EMZKCFGeNTvWq
http://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-Crossfire-Dead-Hold-CF2-31003/dp/B0106BYBPM/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1453939651&sr=8-5&keywords=vortex+crossfire+ii
You want this particular Mk. II as opposed one the cheaper ones because it has the AccuTrigger.
Personally, because I live in one of the many states that let's it's citizens have nice things, I would save up a bit more for this, and slap one of these, one of these and one of these on it.
Showed you guys and gals my first rifle the other day, a Diamondback 5.56 w/ basic Magpul furniture. I received some feedback about the scope and the not so ergonomic position it was in, which is nothing I ever thought of, even with my face buried into the stock. Ordered a Primary Arms basic scope mount for 30mm sized tubes with 1” rings. The chinesium scope I had did not make the cut for the mount, which I’m pretty sure cost more than the scope itself, so I made the decision to invest in an optic that’s worth mounting. I’m very happy with how it looks, along with the most important part with quality of glass, distance, and overall clarity.
Mount:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00GX670YO/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1525744208&sr=8-8&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=primary+arms+scope+mount&dpPl=1&dpID=41e9uVJ-DrL&ref=plSrch
Scope: Vortex Crossfire II 2-7x32
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0106BYBPM/ref=mp_s_a_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1525744270&sr=8-11&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=vortex%2Bcrossfire%2Bii&th=1&psc=1
0.83"
Leapers MT-RSX8S Inc, UTG Ss Picatinny Riser Mount, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CKYYH16/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_3FkSCb9P11FRQ
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CKYYH16/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Onto the discription! What this is is my grandfather's Winchester Model 290, which retailed for the very expensive price of $75 new in the 70's. I had shown an interest in firearms for years now, so on my 18th birthday my dad dug this out of the attic and said, "You get it working and we'll go shooting." Luckily there was a gun cleaning kit with it, also from the 1970s. I cleaned out the gun, and put 350 rounds of .22 through it with 2 minor feeding hiccups.
The range trip confirmed the barely adjustable plastic sights were indeed crap, as I had ascertained on the internet, and I ordered the cheap .22 scope with dovetail mounts for the gun. I don't expect it to be winning any accuracy awards and is going to be used as a plinker, so I didn't need a high budget, ultra clear scope. I ended up just going for the Simmons .22 mag It works. Nothing fancy.
I really just like how the rifle looks with a scope. It seems very natural and rounds out the look. I'll most likely go to zero it in the next few days.
I've had a few copies of this scope and it's awesome for the money. Doesn't break the bank and for what you'll be using it for, it's a great price.
The rings it comes with are junk though.
Yes you can, I have This on mine Very good squirrel popper.
any idea on how it compares to a simmons truplex .22 mag scope?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000KOSB34/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have this one on my 22 right now but I cannot seem to get the crosshairs to focus with the target focused at the same time, one is always blurry...
I also have a Simmons .22 Scope. It works great for the price.
I just bought this scope 4 weeks ago along with these rings. Great deal. 900+ reviews with 4.5 rating. I mounted it and it is truly a great scope.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000KOSB34/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Rings: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000V2DNG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Rail: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001CJ67E6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Total cost was like $60 on Amazon.
I'd suggest this, for the price, It's a great optic. I've been happy with mine. keeps it's zero perfectly. for 30 bucks I dont think you can go wrong with this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000KOSB34/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Here's the optic I have on mine.
BSA 3-9X40 Sweet 22 Rifle Scope with Side Parallax Adjustment and Multi-Grain Turret https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002AK7KMO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_XAMizb8TBP441
If you don't want the grain turret they have this one without it for half as much:
BSA Sweet .22 3-9x40mm Duplex reticle Rifle Scope https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000NJUPAS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_PBMizbNFM9BDZ
I've got a cheap quick release mount from UTG. This is my 2nd UTG mount and they're both working fine without any issues. Use threadlock.
UTG 1"/2PCs Med Pro LE Grade Picatinny QD Rings: 22mm Wide https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004HIHQLM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_wfCK8KzNC4ePW
If during your accessorizing you find a compatible bipod please let me know. Haven't been able to find one that didn't require drilling into the stock.
It's a BSA Sweet 22 Scope with sunshade, awesome scope
https://www.amazon.com/BSA-Sweet-Rifle-Scope-Matte/dp/B000NJUPAS
My MK II has a BSA Sweet 22 3-9x40 ($50 on Amazon) mounted with some Weaver low-profile rings ($6 at Wal-Mart) on top of Weaver #24 mounts ($11 for 2 on Amazon). I had to remove the rear sight with a drift punch to allow the objective bell to clear the barrel properly. I do not recommend medium/high profile rings on this rifle; even with low profile rings I'm about 1/4" low on the cheek weld.
The scope is amazing for the money; it has enough elevation to mess around at 250 yards if you want, the turrets work pretty well.
Scope:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NJUPAS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Mounts:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002PUOIB0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Just mounted a BSA [sweet .22] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NJUPAS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A19XE0CFLN81HP) on my Ruger 10/22. How do I change the turrets? I'm afraid of forcing too hard. Do I jab the holes and pull up the turret?
The guy at the gun store mounted it without using scope levels and pretty much eyeballing it, will I regret this as I try to zero it?
Aside from reading the FAQ's (which I already have), any advice for me this weekend as I zero my first scope ever?
There's this option. The BSA Sweet .22. I've got one and love it, on a Savage Mk II FV. That said, it has no mil marks on the reticle, and has 1/4 MOA turrets. If you buy off Amazon, you get a slightly older model that has adjustable parallax with the aperture and not a knob. You'll want to look into a set of these rings though as the scope is a little short for the mounts on a Mk II.
This is what I have on mine, it has adjustable objective too, best of luck! https://www.amazon.com/Mueller-Rifle-Scope-Black-4-5-14/dp/B000SULCTA
Also I agree with the "start with a cheap scope and move up" mentality.
This is actually a decent starting scope: http://www.opticsplanet.net/leapers-utg-1in-4-16x40mm-full-size-ao-mil-dot-rgb-zero-locking-resetting-riflescope.html (~$60-65 w/ discounts and fs)
Even comes with flip up lens covers.
I also note that I would suggest: http://www.amazon.com/Mueller-APV-4-5-14x40-AOScope/dp/B000SULCTA
Instead of your choices. You can get it for less elsewhere (~$110-115). Also always google for coupon codes.
The three most suggested scopes, first is for a lower budget:
Simmons
Nikon Rimfire Prostaff
Mueller APV
Mueller APV 4-14x40 which is finger adjustable under the caps for $108 or Meuller APT which has target turrets for $169. These are very well regarded budget scopes.
You can get a Vortex Diamondback with rings for around that price.
Vortex has great customer service and a lifetime warranty on evern their budget priced models.
https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-Diamondback-4-12x40-Riflescope/dp/B001EC7KMY/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1538576424&sr=8-3&keywords=vortex+diamondback+4-12x40+bdc
https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-Diamondback-4-12x40-Dead-Hold/dp/B001EC7KMY
Here you go bud. I like that it goes up to 12 power since you may get longer shots in MT. Vortex offers great value and a killer warranty. I normally get a commission from Amazon, but I'm not supposed to post those links here. Please check out my website when you get a chance.
There are so many affordable, quality scopes on sale right now I would stretch if you can. Amazon has the Vortex Diamondback 4-12x40 for about $135 right now, for just one example.
You don't need to spend a fortune for a working scope but it seems you need to spend at least $125.
The Bushnell TRS-25 with this riser. Works great, real steel quality too. For BB protection get this, you'll need to glue it on or shim it with teflon tape so it doesn fall off
Amazon
TRS-25's are usually $50 new on amazon, however if you want to save sales tax, buy OP's. https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Riflescope-1x25mm/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=trs25&qid=1566074026&s=gateway&sr=8-1
Here's a Vortex Sparc and 10 PMAGS for $199.99.
Or a Vortex Strikefire 2 with 10 PMAGS for $179.
Or if you're looking for budget this Bushnell TRS-25 is a good option for sub $50.
if you want to build it - link there also upgraded versions with better stocks/pistol grips etc.
If you don't want to build it - link ps this looks like a pretty rocking build.
With that complete lower and this upper (note this one has a bcg and charging handle) you are at 550. That should save you enough cash to buy iron sights or a budget red dot like bushnell or primary arms. does that fit your budget?
Bushnell Trophy TRS-25 Red Dot Sight Riflescope, 1x25mm, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_xuLmDb7QGQZ3V
TRS-25 $60
Atomic Arms Barracude Stock $179
Champion Stainless Bull Barrel $89
Ruger 10/22 Carbine $179
That's about $530 and basically my gun, which I really enjoy shooting and it turns heads all the time. Maybe an extended mag release would be a good idea.
Amazon usually has them less than $50. Use camelcamelcamel to get notified I got mine for $40 a month ago. They're $55 right now. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00200E0HM
Bushnell TRS-25
I'd have to agree with him but also add the TRS25. You can catch them on sale for $30-$40 if you're willing to wait, but $50 + a riser for $7 if you want one isn't bad.
Bushnell TRS-25 is a quality budget red dot that would perform similarly to the Vortex.
Edit: you would probably want a riser to go along with it, though that's somewhat personal preference. Amazon has the TRS + riser for $60.
Billy Bob's raised their price, but there are other, less reputable sellers. For example:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00200E0HM?m=A55NYGSXDQP7L&ref_=v_sp_widget_detail_page
https://smile.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Reticle-Riflescope/dp/B00200E0HM
$15.99 after rebate.
Looking for a cheap scope/red dot sight for my psa freedom rifle with an A2 front sight. I'm not looking for quality, just something that's about $40 or so and decent. This and this have good rating on amazon, anyone know if they're actually decent?
This has good ratings too.
Vortex Crossfire II Rimfire, runs between $100-130 on Amazon. Works great.
Or a Bushnell TRS-25 red dot for $50.
Sure! I bought the rifle from an auction for $655 and it already had the telescoping stock and side rail (which I will still link).
[Muzzle Brake] (http://www.zahal.org/products/sa-vz-58-556-cal-muzzle-break?path_parent=278947)
Magwell Adapter
Side Rail
Short Optic Mount
Bushnell TRS Red Dot
Shoots very well, very little kick and have never had a FTE or FTF. I just got the red dot, so I'm excited to try that out soon.
You might have luck using the Bushnell trs-25, I have one on my AR and it is awesome for the price. Right now it's on sale for $69.99.
My buddy has a Bushnell TRS on his first AR-15 and I have been quite impressed with it.
Make sure to get the riser with it too tho.
http://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-1xRed-Riflescope/dp/B00200E0HM
I've been using the TRS-25 and it's been good. I've got it on a 1" riser for a lower 1/3 co-witness with my irons. I'm saving for a Vortex 1-4x but haven't felt like I needed a better sight yet. It's tolerated the recoil of a few hundred 12ga rounds and another couple hundred 5.56 and held zero just fine.
https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Reticle-Riflescope/dp/B00200E0HM
Bushnell trs-25 is a great red dot that is extremely durable and only about $75.
https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Reticle-Riflescope/dp/B00200E0HM/
>You need to come up with a decent (non UTG airsoft shit) rail set up too. Do you actually mount anything beside a VFG? Do you even use a scope?
As far as optics go, I have this BSA 4x30 scope which I have used off and on between my Saiga and my AR15. I also have this Eotech XPS2, and this Bushnell TRS-25 red dot came in the mail today. The Eotech mainly stays on my AR, but I am excited to try out the TRS-25 on my Saiga - I've heard these work well. The Soviet style side mount hasn't worked well for me (mainly because the mount I bought was a piece of crap), so I was looking for something I could mount further forward.
As far as UTG goes, I understand there is a lot of resentment towards their company - but it seems just like the same type of blind resentment people have against Sigmas and Taurus'... People hate on things they've never tried or owned. I'm not saying that's the case with you, but it is with a lot of people. Leaper's / UTG is most definitely not an airsoft exclusive company, the majority of their products are geared for hunting/real steel shooting (real steel/hunting scopes, mil-spec buffer tubes, charging handles, rifle furniture, things that wouldn't work on airsoft guns/only work on real firearms, etc...). Although Leaper's (UTG) makes Airsoft accessories and items, the Saiga 7.62 quadrail is made for real steel firearms. I'm not even sure if anyone out there even makes a Saiga 7.62 airsoft gun?
I just have to ask you: have you even tried the UTG quadrail? I can understand hating on a company cause they've been branded as airsoft only but... you should really give it a chance before you knock it. It's light, it's sturdy, and it stays put. What else could be asked for in a rail? It's so tight, it hasn't budged a fraction of a millimeter since I put it on 3 years ago.
>Several good companies make Ace style stocks and once you have an internal ace adapter in place, you can mount all sorts of stocks, for example, mount a Magpul CTR stock and have it fold to either side. You will just never be able to go back to a standard AK stock.
>Also, this company makes decent AK folding mechanisms, which don't require you to cut the "tang" and are still nice and low profile:
>http://www.bonesteelarms.com/Saiga_c7.htm
I would love a CTR stock and one of those AR stock adapters, those look awesome. Forgive me for being forward here, but I just can't see myself anytime soon dropping $200-$300 on a stock & adapter for a rifle that originally cost me $250. I would love to do it, if I had the funds though. You can clearly see I made / converted this rifle on a budget :D
http://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Reticle-Riflescope/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1449042597&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=bushnell+red+dor
Red dot from amazon https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=olp_product_details/138-9863623-0009301?_encoding=UTF8&me=
This scope usually sells for around $149~$169 + taxes at most retailers in Canada.
You now save around 50% or more!
Currently you can get it on Amazon Canada for $99.89 + taxes (Free Shipping from amazon.ca / Prime eligible)
Then you get the $40 Trophy Bucks (Canadian) Mail-in Rebate!
"Through October 31, 2017, save $40 on any purchase of a Trophy or Trophy Xtreme product via mail-in rebate."
Getting this (awesome) Red Dot Sight for between $70 and $76 CAD after taxes (depending on province) is a phenomenal deal!
This Red Dot sight is for shotguns, rifles, handguns - and is not a cheapo air-soft model.
Enjoy!
Bushnell TRS-25 is cheap and works well. I ended up replacing it with a Bushnell 1-4 AR optics donut of death reticle later on. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_6mKTDbXZEGF66
estimated shipping was $10.85 for me. $66 delivered is pretty good for a TRS-25 these days. amazon is currently $68.25
I had a truglo for about 3 days. It was working fine out of the box, I put it on my gun, and put the gun away until I got some time to shoot. When I got my gun out to shoot, I turned the sight on and the reticle was blurry on all the settings (different reticles and different brighness settings). I returned it and got a Bushnell TRS-25. The Bushnell gets great reviews and is often recommended as a quality budget red dot.
is $50
Parts list-
Upper&Lower
Grip
Stock
16" Barrel
Handrail
Muzzle
Sling
Optic
Backup Sights
This covers most of the build. There's also a QD sling disconnect opposite the light, and a bipod mount up front. Was a blast to put together!
Get the $29.99 (after rebate) TRS-25 red dot sight and call it a day.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003TX2BD4?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00200E0HM/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
There is nothing better for the price than this https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00200E0HM/
I prefer the bushnell trs-25 to the pa microdot
Just wondering, do you have a budget in mind? If you do I could recommend stuff within that budget.
Edit: Anyways, here's what I would recommend just to start you off with:
M4 RIS
Magpul vertical grip
Red dot sight (for faster aiming)
Dye i4 Mask(These things never fog, fit glasses really well, and is low profile enough that you can still use the iron sights. I would recommend a beanie for head protection)
Condor Chest Rig(Not the best quality, but enough for Airsoft, also has MOLLE weaving so you can swap out the pouches for other MOLLE addons)
I would not recommend a sniper rifle because they need a lot of costly upgrades in order to be effective. Also playing the role of a sniper in a game is boring, you just sit back and shoot all day. You may get a lot of "kills" but in the end of the day, you're just robbing yourself of the fun/adrenaline rush of being on the front line.
Also I would not recommend a pistol until you really feel like you need one. Most of the time, especially if you play CQB, you're not going to run out of ammo any time soon, and your primary isn't going to suddenly die on you for the most part. If you do decide to buy one, I would recommend a Tokyo Marui pistol, even though it's plastic, it shoots the best out of the box and is super accurate, has crisp blowback, and they make unique pistols that other manufacturers don't make, also avoid the M92 like the plague, it's a lemon design. Echigoya
you could probably find an eotech clone for ~$50.
or http://www.amazon.com/Aim-Sports-Sight-Different-Reticles/dp/B002ZVFF20/
Get something cheap. I bought this guy, if you want a red dot sight. If it breaks, I haven't lost that much money and can easily replace, but mine is metal and very tought, used it for a couple months now.
Assuming you are looking for a magnification scope, if you are really worried about durability there are a lot of mods and guides to give scopes and sights to make them withstand bb's. And you don't have to spend 1300 on a Trijicon, you can get a decent 4x for like 40+ dollars. If looks are your concern, maybe like 80-100 bucks. My sniper scope, which cost me about 30 dollars, has withstood a lot of punishing and like looks new. No scratching on the lens or anything. Just shop around, there are a lot of ways to go.
Well then you're in luck because I'm cheap and the total cost was about $60. the light and sight work incredibly well for the cost.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001BZPJRC/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002ZVFF20/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i03?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007P7QO2E/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Here you go: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002ZVFF20/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I would buy a cheap deer camera.
I really think this is the best idea. If you have the cash, I think a trail camera would do the trick pretty well, although I will admit that I don't know much about the things. And once your troublesome neighbours are dealt with you can set it up in some local woods to get some great wildlife shots!
I've heard redditors recommend this camera before in situations like this. I'm looking for an excuse to buy one personally.
Also, keep his letters safe. Since he's printing them, they're tied directly to his printer even if there's no fingerprints on them.
To expand on what /u/Lost_Thought said, the link you included has the standard mount that will result with a very close mount, like this or this.
If you want it mounted to better co-witness with your iron sights, you will need a rise mount that will end up looking like this.
The medium riser will co-witness with your irons. The high riser will give you a lower 1/3 co-witness.
These are the only two items (sight and one riser) you would likely need to purchase.
A TRS-25 with a UTG High riser will give you lower 1/3 co-witness.
If you do get the bushnell red dot definately get this with it UTG Riser
It will allow you to co witness with the irons. It's cheap and works just fine for the 22 (doesn't need to be bomb proof)
Not op, but would this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003TWZG4G/ref=pd_aw_sim_200_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=44WEMY5M76K70FNY3N99&dpPl=1&dpID=41uJyz%2BdAsL work as well
No problem. I use this:
UTG 3-9X32 1" BugBuster Scope, AO, RGB Mil-dot, QD Rings https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005UGIMNQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_XWO.zb80JVB1E
I'm not sure if links are permitted here, so mods can take it down if they need to I guess. I'm not trying to sell these things, just giving an example of one that's worked well. I use my 10/22 as a squirrel gun, and I can take headshots at 30-40 yards with no problem. I'm sure other scopes would be the same.
Have fun!
UTG 3-9X32 1" BugBuster Scope, AO, RGB Mil-dot, QD Rings https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005UGIMNQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_feT0BbX7A1S0J
I have a Ruger American Rimfire and have shot with a cheap Tasco and a slightly less cheap UTG.
Get it sighted in at 25 yds and you'll be able to kill anything in the 20-40 yard range with either one no problem. Or any other cheap scope for that matter.
Tasco Rimfire Series 3-9x 32mm 30/30 Reticle .22 Riflescope (Matte Finish) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0000A0AHN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_ygT5RBcdZhqow
UTG: UTG 3-9X32 1" BugBuster Scope, AO, RGB Mil-dot, QD Rings https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005UGIMNQ/
The UTG comes with flip-cap covers, a sunshade, and pretty good quality rings. I recommend.
>Got a link to the scope?
Here
Check out the UTG bug buster. It's $80 but I love it and it's amazing for the price.
https://www.amazon.ca/UTG-SCP-M392AOLWQ-Compact-Picatinny-Sunshade/dp/B005UGIMNQ
My scope was on sale for $130. Its a pretty good scope. Has red/green illumination, quick connect mounts, comes in a nice compact package with instructional manual, batteries and with flip up blinds and a sun shade.
The foregrip was given to me by a friend. I know nothing about it.
UTG Bugbuster is popular. Comes with rings which is something you don't get when you get into scopes approaching $200. Everything is custom and pricey up there.
A UTG "Bug Buster" scope:
https://www.amazon.com/UTG-3-9X32-BugBuster-Scope-Mil-dot/dp/B005UGIMNQ
$85, and it comes with nice QD rings (which don't fit on the Ruger rail, so you'll need the $10 aluminum one from UTG or any picatinny rail for the 10/22). It's 3-9x power, illuminated mil-dot reticle, adjustable parralax, 1/4MOA turrets that are zero resettable and lockable. Hell of a deal for the money. I've got one on my takedown and I love it.
That and some more mags and you're set to start with.
Nice, I opted for the UTG Bug buster. It allows me to fit it in the bag with the scope still attached.
Thanks! I didn't know what AO was. And I do notice the crosshairs shift when I move my head. So it must be the parallax. You saved me $115. Is this the scope you recommend?
https://www.amazon.com/UTG-3-9X32-BugBuster-Scope-Mil-dot/product-reviews/B005UGIMNQ/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_show_all_btm?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews
Bushnell Optics Drop Zone-223 Reticle Riflescope with Target Turrets, Matte Black, 1-4x/24mm https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ABP5UXG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_pX5EAbW167E9V
I’m so happy I snagged it. Ideal scope for my extreme budget.
Edit: now it’s $110 on amazon, $140 on academy.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ABP5UXG/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_E46gAb98M2409
$150 is still tough. maybe catch a deal on something like a Bushnell or a Nikon.
If you don't need a name brand, you can give Primary Arms a shot.
"Function Testing" ?
I have no plans to get rid of it, the only reason I have am building this one is, I had a trade deal too good to pass up on(2 glocks 35-27 gen3 and gen4 both like new for my budget build [apx $600]). So with this build I have been trying to keep the quality of the parts I am using above the quality of the last one (Spikes lower rather than Anderson, magpul parts, rather than ATI, etc...). This is what I had on the last one and I like it, however a lot of the poeple I have talked to said they seem to like their holograpgic/red dot more as you can find your target in the sight faster, and for the distnaces I am looking at, there is no need for magnification/zoom.
Maybe consider the Bushnell 1-4x 24mm
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ABP5UXG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_IJZrybZE7VXRN
Any idea how it compares to the Primary Arms 1-4 or the Bushnell AR Optics 1-4? Or anything else you have to compare it against? The Crossfire II is at the top of my list actually along with those others I mentioned.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GX66ZDQ/
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ABP5UXG/
I got mine from Palmetto, but they don't seem to have it listed anymore. I think it was a black friday deal or christmas deal or something.
This is the one I have. You can definitely find it cheaper than Amazon.
edit: just checked my order history, I got the second one at an all-time low from Amazon "$69.99 Nov 26, 2017"
https://smile.amazon.com/Bushnell-Zone-223-Reticle-Riflescope-Turrets/dp/B00ABP5UXG
https://www.bushnell.com/products/riflescopes/ar-optics/ar-optics-riflescope-1-4x24/ (I have the BDC Drop Zone-223 (SFP))
well what's the [121] (
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ABP5UXG?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00) dollar version on amazon? I mean hows it different than the $70 and the $150. Anyway, that's what I ordered and can't wait till it comes in.
Those are Bushnell TRS-25s on a UTG medium riser. But it looks like this one on Amazon already comes with a medium riser.
Very nice, except your optic is airsoft poop and needs replacing, your BUIS are poop (and the rear is backwards) and your front needs to be made for a lower gas block as the gas block on the DPMS is not in-line with the upper receiver rail.
However, barring that, I like the look you're going for. I'd recommend the Bushnell TRS-25 since it's widely accepted to be a good budget red dot and should look similar to what you have now, except able to properly co-witness with your BUIS. As for BUIS, make sure to find something that specifies it is for shorter gas blocks. If it doesn't say it is, then it isn't.
Happy shooting!
I got this one and I have never had to re-zero it yet. Less than $40. I got different rings for mine though.
https://www.amazon.com/Simmons-511039-Matte-Black-Riflescope/dp/B000KOSB34
It's a Marlin XT-22TR. I was looking at this scope; would I need to buy separate rings/ mounts to allow it room to fit? Appreciate your help.
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B000KOSB34/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1977604522&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B000GU67VU&pf_rd_m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&pf_rd_r=DTD46F1KE1EK6T1MJB9B
Simmons Rimfire Riflescope
Do you want iron sights or a scope? If you want iron sights, check out the NODAK sights or Tech sights. If you want a scope, check out the Simmons 511039. It's very popular for 10/22 and is extremely cheap. Here's the link to the Simmons: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000KOSB34/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_njKbAb6AAGJT6
I run both the Simmons scope and the NODAK sights on mine using these mounts: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000N8JV9A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_BnKbAbDBH69DE
Heard good things about this so I ordered it today. http://www.amazon.com/Simmons-511039-Riflescope-Matte-Black/dp/B000KOSB34
http://www.amazon.com/Simmons-Truplex-Riflescope-3-9X32-Matte/dp/B000KOSB34/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325094382&sr=8-1
A friend of mine has this, works just fine for bench shooting at a 100yds. He's not particularly nice to it either and it still performs well. It does include rings, is just not mentioned in the description, but the reviews confirm this
I have two 22LR rifles, one with a Simmons 3-9 rimfire scope for about $40, one with a Vortex Crossfire 2 3-9 for more like $120.
The simmons is sufficient, but the extra $100 does buy a significantly sharper view. So I guess it depends on what your wallet likes. I would point you to the nicer glass, especially if you're practicing distance/bullseye shooting.
FFP is really only important for helping you figure out how far or how big a target is. You don't need such a thing for rimfire shooting IMO.
Looking at this scope.
Any suggestions on an extractor?
I am definitely considering this cheap Simmons .22 mag scope, but I'm wondering if it's worth spending a little more for something like a Nikon Prostaff for almost three times as much.
Hadn't seen the RAR in wood. They look super nice, but the durability of a plastic stock is definitely a bonus. Not so much the flex you mentioned... The Savage B22 could also be interesting in a very similair price range.
Scope for $38 on Amazon
I have these on 3 rimfire rifles now, solid scope for stupid cheap. Holding zero just fine, dropped them a couple times and nothing bag happened, decent plinking glass.
is this not the Simmons in black?
also I did not know any Simmons scope had a good reputation anywhere. I would definitely put it in the same class as Barska though.
Simmons 22 mag
https://www.amazon.com/Simmons-511039-Matte-Black-Riflescope/dp/B000KOSB34
List of mods so far...
Getting ready to purchase this for my own 10/22, it sounds like what you are describing?
http://www.amazon.com/BSA-Sweet-Rifle-Scope-Matte/dp/B000NJUPAS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1464334614&sr=8-3&keywords=22+lr+scope
http://www.amazon.com/BSA-Sweet-Rifle-Scope-Matte/dp/B000NJUPAS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1457574641&sr=8-1&keywords=bsa+sweet+22+scope
Parallax setting on the vortex is also 100 yards. If you don't get the same cheek weld every time at 25 yards it will effect your shot placement. Which is unlikely given the various shooting positions and time requirements for Appleseed.
Here is the scope that I used and qualified Rifleman with. Make sure you sight it in before you go.
It sure can. I do have a bull barrel and a Volquartsen Compensator, but you still shouldn't have any issues. The trigger and bolt are stock with the exception of some smoothing on the sear I did with my wife's nail file.
See the link for a sample target at 100 yards.
Target
Here is the Scope I used!
edit to add the scope
That scope will be lighter than a Nikon, and probably a bit clearer. But the Nikon is still good.
Edit: http://www.amazon.com/BSA-Sweet-Rifle-Scope-Matte/dp/B000NJUPAS also a fairly good scope, for what you're describing. The Nikon you mentioned, and the Leupold will be more usefull if you ever decided you needed to put them on something like an AR-15, but the BSA is a good choice if you don't want to put more money ontop of the gun than you have in the gun itself.
http://www.amazon.com/BSA-Sweet-22-Scope-Matte/dp/B000NJUPAS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1334928679&sr=8-1
Best scope under $50 you can buy.
I hear good things about the BSA Sweet 22 scope. It's fairly inexpensive and is tailored for .22
The scope is a BSA sweet .22, I used medium rings but because of that I have a chin weld. I think I could have gotten away with low rings, that way you can have a cheek weld. But its fine with me the way it is, I love it.
my scope suggestion would be a BSA sweet .22 scope. For $40 its great. Have one on my 795 and after about 1500 rounds, no issues at all. Mounted with some loc-tite, it hasnt lost zero at all.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NJUPAS/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B002A12VLI&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=13J1JSBW7XQ03PYDQTJ1
This is what I have on mine, which is .17HMR
https://www.amazon.com/Mueller-Rifle-Scope-Black-4-5-14/dp/B000SULCTA
I used Leupold 11mm rmifire rings on both of my 455's. Be sure that you get HIGH rings... You are going to need it for the bolt handle to clear
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000SULCTA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_c4JXAb4GK0C1M
This is a Mueller scope 4.5-14 x 40mm that I’ve been using on a Remington 700 chambered in .223. The glass is really clear for the price and I’ve had no issue pinging 8” steel plates at 200 yards consistently, which is unfortunately the longest range I have near me. And really any 1” rings will get the job done with the proper torque applied, a simple $20 set will work fine for most uses.
Alternatively you could look into the Vortex Crossfire II series of scopes but they are pretty close to the $200-$250 range.
The Mueller APV is indeed a great scope for the money. Adjustable parallax, 4.5-14x40. You can read more about it here:
http://muelleroptics.com/mapv451440
Here it is at Amazon, $116.87:
http://www.amazon.com/Mueller-Rifle-Scope-Black-4-5-14/dp/B000SULCTA
I have the APV on my 10-22 Target Tactical, great combo.
Here are the two scopes I am talking about
Nikon
Mueller
This is probably at the top end of what you'd want to spend but from what I have heard it is well worth it.
Mueller APV 4.5-14x Scope for my Ruger 10/22.
Now I need to find a scope mounting system to make my reticle level. I have had the worst luck trying myself so far.
They get a lot of good reviews. Definitely the bast I've seen at the price point. I have this one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000SULCTA/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This.
Or a entry vortex either the crossfire 2 or the diamondback would be safe buys until you decide what you like. Then you can anti up for something better.
I have a vortex diamondback 4-12 for 200 bucks on amazon it's great for that range and center at 50 yards because point of impact(POI) is the same at 50-200 yards, it's not too big or bulky and gets the job done
Vortex Optics Diamondback 4-12x40 Dead-Hold BDC Reticle - 1 Inch Tube (DBK-04-BDC) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001EC7KMY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_vE6FzbZDCACDE http://i.imgur.com/09ZDn0K.jpg
Poking around some more, some shooters on Calguns recommend these
http://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-DBK-04-BDC-Diamondback-Riflescope/dp/B001EC7KMY/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1417223202&sr=1-1-fkmr0&keywords=vortex+diamondback+hd
http://swfa.com/Nikon-3-9x40-ProStaff-Rimfire-Scope-P48766.aspx
http://www.amazon.com/SWFA-SS-10X42-Rifle-Scope/dp/B00GR79BGY
I'm not trying to be rude here, but with scopes you get what you pay for. Buy once, cry once. Send it back and ask for a refund. Get a scope that works. Vortex is a great company with the best warranty in the business. They have scopes in your price range if you can't throw any more money into your scope.
Look at the crossfire II line (http://www.amazon.com/Crossfire-II-12x40mm-Riflescope-DEAD-HOLD/dp/B00794LINS/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1368633509&sr=1-1&keywords=Crossfire+II+4-12x40+AO)
Or Diamondback line (http://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-Diamondback-4-12x40-Riflescope/dp/B001EC7KMY/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1368633670&sr=1-3&keywords=DIAMONDBACK++4-12x40+AO)
Best bet will be to go the amazon.ca (prime) route which others have mentioned.
https://www.amazon.ca/Bushnell-Trophy-Matte-Riflescope-Reticle/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=sr_1_1?rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1496011738&sr=8-1&keywords=Bushnell+Trophy+TRS-25
or if you know someone in the states you can get it for $55 USD with a 25% off mail in rebate from Bushnell.
https://amzn.to/2rvqiAz
If he doesn't have an optic, get him a bushnell TRS-25.
https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Reticle-Riflescope/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1466431703&sr=8-1&keywords=bushnel+trs+25
I don't know what your budget is, but this $75 bushnell is a great optic for airsoft or real steel.
So I am going to start at my local indoor range, which only has 25 yard rifle lanes. Right now money is tight and I've already spent too much on myself during Christmas season, I ended up buying Bushnell Trophy TRS-25 Red Dot Sight Riflescope, 1 x 25mm (tilted front lens) and UTG Hi-Profile Compact Riser Mount, 1" High, 3 Slots to start with and get some experience. In the future if this red dot doesn't do it for me I will go for something in the $200 range.
I really wish I could use iron sights but as /u/nuffin_stuff wrote... "The QRC has the shaved FSB. Nothing to attach a forward sight to." so I don't even know how I would get irons on this gun.
You might not want that gas block in the front that could block the view of a scope you want to put on it. That said You can get one of the [bushnell red dots on amazon sale] (http://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Reticle-Riflescope/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1398269911&sr=1-1&keywords=red+dot) and This riser and then you can have a red dot co witness for hunting which would be sweet.
I just bought this rifle as well as the bushnell trophy trs-25, a cheap but well reviewed optic. Figured it was good enough to start and the beauty of the mpr is that I can upgrade later
Edit: Bushnell Trophy TRS-25 Red Dot Sight Riflescope, 1x25mm, Black https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_eO0gDb6HGCDX9
amazon for trs red dot. its little high now but will drop once in awhile
https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Sight-Riflescope/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1523597159&sr=8-1&keywords=trs25
Bushnell Trophy TRS-25 Red Dot Sight Riflescope, 1 x 25mm, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_wGuLAbJ5PVAVY 50 bucks shipped
this
It was a good goto cheapo sight until the price practically doubled. The quality has been rumored to have gone down hill too. (unable to confirm personally) I put one on my 10/22. It's great for that application but I wouldn't put it on anything that requires frequent, heavy use, or high performance. These should be $40, in my personal option.
this one https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Riflescope-1x25mm/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=sr\_1\_4?keywords=bushnell+micro+red+dot&qid=1568169571&s=gateway&sr=8-4
This is the one.
Most people don't spend $65 on this. It goes on sale frequently for under $40. Then pick up something like a UTG magnifier and mount. It should all total around $100.
Awesome! It's funny that's almost my exact setup except for the peq. I have the same tracer and I have this red dot
Depending on how small and put together you like your packagep MAXX makes a hopup with a built in tracer unit. Keeps everything in a tight package. And had bb retention which is why I want it so bad
does it matter which trs-25 i get? or are they all the same.
i quickly looked on amazon and found [this] (http://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Reticle-Riflescope/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=sr_1_3?s=hunting-fishing&ie=UTF8&qid=1413224248&sr=1-3)
Check out the Bushnell red dot it's only $16 after rebate and is supposed to be decent
If you are looking at $100 max, the Bushnell TRS-25 is pretty hard to beat. Without a riser, it is $47, and in the mid $50's with one, which you would definitely want on an AR.
https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Riflescope-1x25mm/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=sr_1_2?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1543428504&sr=1-2&keywords=bushnell+trs25
I like the PA with this mount
Not sure why you got down voted, but here's a very inexpensive red dot sight I put on my 12 gauge. Seems to hold zero pretty well and has been quite reliable.
[Bushnell Trophy TRS-25 Red Dot Sight Riflescope, 1x25mm, Black] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_y7TTBb6TE092W)
cheapest red dot that I would trust is closer to $70 bushnell tr-25
I have one on a 22/45 and it works great, several others in the family on various other handguns/rifles.
http://smile.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Reticle-Riflescope/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420595565&sr=8-1&keywords=trs-25
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https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Riflescope-1x25mm/dp/B00200E0HM
how long ago? i see it currently for 56.40 :( https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Sight-Riflescope/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1520801302&sr=1-3&keywords=Bushnell+Trophy+TRS-25
Check out this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00200E0HM
It was recommended on another thread yesterday. I haven't used it before but with over 3,000 positive review it can't totally suck.
CenterPoint 1-4x20 MSR Rifle... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AL1Y2IY?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
And
Bushnell Trophy TRS-25 Red Dot Sight Riflescope, 1x25mm, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_24CSDb86ZQ16K
Any comments about This Bushnell for under $70, or This Sightmark also under 70?
Bushnell Trophy TRS-25 Red Dot Sight Riflescope, 1x25mm, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_qJj-Ab57WVBP0
Those are CAD price so they are more expensive and also this is thru a local shop which the guy probably spent 2-3 hours with me explaining, recommending and trying stuff :)
As for the sights I'll see if he can source other stuff but I'm might snatch these's, anyone have experience with them? Also overkill for Airsoft?
Vortex VMX-3T Magnifier
Bushnell Trophy Red Dot TRS-25
Also got any brand names/models or links for these's Helmet?
I use the Bushnell red dot with the riser
Bushnell Trophy TRS-25 Red Dot Sight Riflescope, 1 x 25mm, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_447LUynCXLtD3
Not sure what Collectable condition is, but this seller has them for 34.99 less 5% more off right now. Says backordered due in Feb 16
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00200E0HM/ref=mw_dp_olp?ie=UTF8&condition=all
If you can wait a month to get it, it's available for $23.90 here...
This and the trs 32 are $75 all day at Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00200E0HM/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1463679223&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=trs+25&dpPl=1&dpID=51DWykemi-L&ref=plSrch
hah; I spoke too soon. primary arms has them on amazon for $70 shipped. I also appreciate your help.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00200E0HM/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new
Bushnell on sale at Amazon with 25% rebate. Seems like a good deal.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00200E0HM/ref=s9u_simh_gw_i1?ie=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00200E0HM&pd_rd_r=D14PAHSPN400V0S7TAZ0&pd_rd_w=CpPPI&pd_rd_wg=My3WT&pf_rd_m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=NTXPEQ2TXXQ9ND9DTQS8&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=b06971ce-9992-44c1-9ee0-eb9792e71b5e&pf_rd_i=desktop&th=1
Amazon
Here's your culprit.
Amazon lists all prices from used to new and either from Amazon or third party sellers. Green Canyon Outfitters probably accidentally put that price.
After about 25 years of not owning anything except a bolt-action rifle and a breach-loading shotgun, I jumped into the AR-15 world nearly two years ago, and now I'm well-and-truly hooked. I'm still a huge nub, so don't take my advice too seriously.
There's a lot to learn just in one platform. But, don't let that keep you from getting both an AR and an AK.
Learning AKs feels overwhelming for completely different reasons than ARs. That said, I am always impressed with how well my AK performs, and how comfortable it is to shoot.
If you haven't already, head over to /r/ak47 and check out the buyer's guide so you don't make a big mistake early on. The oft recommended WASR 10 is considered the best starter AK for the money. Lurk /r/gundeals for a shot at getting one on sale; they've been seen for less than $550 recently which is better than they were pre-election.
I do have to caution you: Accessories and customization for an AK is a completely different game than ARs. You might find that your "cheap plinker" rifle ends up costing you more to trick out, resulting in the same net cost-of-ownership as an AR shooting slightly more expensive ammo. If you end up happy with a stock AK, though, it's a great investment, and a welcome break from sending .22 cal downrange.
All that said, I think if you're picking a semi-auto purely on the basis of budget and having fun hitting targets, this is what I would highly recommend (after wasting a lot of money on stuff I didn't like):
This is all you need. Just have fun. You'll quickly discover what you like/dislike, and be more informed about upgrades and accessories.
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Get $40 off Bushnell TRS-25 with mail in rebate
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00200E0HM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This Bushnell one, when you can find it on sale for less than $30.
Isn't it the $60 one in this list? Because as far as I can see, those are exactly the same as this and this and this and this. I hate to be down on your new toy, but in my honest opinion, even plastic open sights are better than a sub-$100 optic on an AR.
Is this for like plinking?
I have a red dot sight
It works just fine and pretty cheap
Yeah, I have an AEG. Is this the sight you are talking about? Are they bright enough for shooting in the sun? Are they metal?
Thanks for your help.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002ZVFF20/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Not OP but Truthcam35
I have the Truthcam46
Great camera
> Can you post which camera you used?
Based on the text and graphics at the bottom of the photo, I'm guessing it was one of these.
Try this: http://www.amazon.com/Primos-Truth-Cam-35-Camera/dp/B003PVGA1O/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1331228882&sr=1-3
How about something like this?
Here is the camera it gets the job done but its nothing special. I painted it brown and stuck some leaves and dirt on it to hide it better.
Yikes
You and I both know that this isn't the only thing stopping me from doing this.
But- I look into it. Looking at risers I found these two.
https://www.amazon.com/UTG-Med-pro-Compact-Riser-Mount/dp/B003TX2BD4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1518456817&sr=8-1&keywords=UTG+riser
https://www.amazon.com/UTG-Hi-Profile-Compact-Riser-Mount/dp/B003TWZG4G/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1518456817&sr=8-2&keywords=UTG+riser
Best bet to wait for the sight to come in and measure? or is there a standard size for these?
Try this for absolute cowitness... one reviewer indicated cowitness with magpul BUIS
Don't quote me but I believe the 1" high riser would give you a lower third cowitness
Field Sport Red Dot and a riser. As for foregrips, look for M LOK grips. I like the Aim Sports M Lok Grip on my G&G.
I have only had time to take mine out shooting once and it held up just fine. The one I linked to on amazon has 4.5 star average over 752 reviews so it looks like hardly anyone else is having trouble with it either.
For absolute cowitness you would want the medium height here-- https://www.amazon.com/UTG-Med-pro-Compact-Riser-Mount/dp/B003TX2BD4/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_sims?ie=UTF8
For 1/3 cowitness you would want the one I linked earlier-- https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TWZG4G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
$8.47 shipped:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003TWZG4G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_3Ds4DbP8BN7YK
For cheapness you can get a Fieldsport Micro Dot from amazon for $20 and a UTG Riser Mount. I do not recommend using these sights without a riser.
If you want to spend some actual cash on a really good optic I recommend either a primary arms T1 and riser or a [Holosun] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NC1G0KI/ref=dp_cerb_2). Dutch uses a Primary Arms but IMO the holosun is probably the best budget real steel optic on the market.
Since you're new to airsoft I suggest getting a cheaper red dot at first. This red dot is pretty good, only 20 bucks and has great reviews. For the height you should get a rail riser, like this.
Edit: also any normal red dot should fit on your rail system
Here is the mobile version of your link
This is the optic I have. It fits nice however I think I need to adjust my eye relief a bit. Over all I'm very happy with it and it fits in the original bag so I'm happy.
https://www.amazon.ca/UTG-SCP-M392AOLWQ-Compact-Picatinny-Sunshade/dp/B005UGIMNQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485180203&sr=8-1&keywords=bugbuster
Scope on the top is the UTG Bug Blaster, Its a good scope for the Money and holds Zero Perfectly
http://www.amazon.com/UTG-3-9x32-Compact-Picatinny-Sunshade/dp/B005UGIMNQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409967000&sr=8-1&keywords=utg+bug
https://www.amazon.com/UTG-3-9X32-BugBuster-Scope-Mil-dot/dp/B005UGIMNQ/ref=sr_1_16?s=sports-and-fitness&ie=UTF8&qid=1475042988&sr=1-16&keywords=rimfire+scope
http://www.amazon.com/UTG-3-9x32-Compact-Picatinny-Sunshade/dp/B005UGIMNQ
it's real steel, fits your budget and has a >80% positive reviews 5 star reviews, and working mildots. pretty much the best budget scope you can get.
Don't know if you ordered one yet but if you're looking for a proper scope with magnification and some illumination my father has had good results with this
I use this on my 10/22 and it’s fantastic.
UTG 3-9X32 1" BugBuster Scope, AO, RGB Mil-dot, QD Rings https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005UGIMNQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_zM.-BbZ71MKFP
For those still looking, the Bug Buster is on sale at Amazon for $65
Fantastic deal.
https://www.amazon.com/UTG-3-9X32-BugBuster-Scope-Mil-dot/dp/B005UGIMNQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482073174&sr=8-1&keywords=bug+buster
Recommended https://www.amazon.ca/UTG-SCP-M392AOLWQ-Compact-Picatinny-Sunshade/dp/B005UGIMNQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481415973&sr=8-1&keywords=utg+bug+buster
Amazon.ca has a decent air rifle scope selection. UTG are lower end but air rifle rated scopes with decent ratings. http://www.amazon.ca/UTG-SCP-M392AOLWQ-Compact-Picatinny-Sunshade/dp/B005UGIMNQ
I just bought a UTG hunting air rifle scope from amazon.ca for a Benjamin Discovery it works great.
This is what I currently use on my Avalon right now... I enjoy it but wish it had a 1-4x instead.
This will probably be my next purchase. Always having 3x zoom isnt the best...
So here is his current wish list.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/534496/ruger-bx-trigger-guard-assembly-ruger-10-22-25-30-lb-polymer-black
This lower is on sale
This upper or this one with BCG and charging handle.
Sights you can find these cheaper elsewhere, the standard MBUS are fine.
If you want a magnified optic (unless you really enjoy shooting irons or want to shoot more than 100-200 yards) this scope or this scope with either Burris PEPR or Aero Precision Ultralight mount if you want something is isn't fuckheavy. And yes, optics are expensive. You'll do fine with MBUS for a while but save up for an optic eventually.
Currently same price on amazon for prime members
Bushnell Optics Drop Zone-223 Reticle Riflescope with Target Turrets, Matte Black, 1-4x/24mm https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ABP5UXG/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_E46gAb98M2409
What model is it? This : Bushnell AR Optics Drop Zone-223 Reticle Riflescope with Target Turrets, 1-4x 24mm https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ABP5UXG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_sDsOybPFWNZZ8
https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Zone-223-Reticle-Riflescope-Turrets/dp/B00ABP5UXG
Heres an amazon link I can get more photos if you like
Bushnell Optics Drop Zone-223 Reticle Riflescope with Target Turrets, Matte Black, 1-4x/24mm https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ABP5UXG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_MJiWzbBVZCE69
Cheap but decent 1x4 scope for an AR, thoughts on either this:
http://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-1-4x24mm-illuminated-riflescope-pa14x
or a Bushnell, since the rebate is still going
https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Zone-223-Reticle-Riflescope-Turrets/dp/B00ABP5UXG/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1526641660&sr=1-1&keywords=bushnell+1x4&dpID=41jY6yiI%252BRL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
I bought a Bushnell 1-4x-24mm as a gift for a friend who had no optic. It was "OK" for the $101 (after spring rebate) but the distortion is noticeable around the edge and the reticle is too thick for my tastes. It was better than nothing, but if it were my gun, I'd save up a few more dollars.
In the similar boat, I bought for myself, an Athlon Argos 1-4x for a specific build and I'm about 95% happy with it. The only knock on it is the illumination is kinda useless in daylight, its simply not bright enough. The glass is excellent, the form factor is short, the turrets are repeatable and the reticle is FFP and useable. Its got a pretty forgiving eye relief.
My current favorite inexpensive scope currently is the Primary Arms 4-14x mildot scope. That exceeded all my expectations, especially for the pricepoint. That one, is far beyond your 1-4x criteria however, in terms of magnification, but I just can't see getting anything lower than the PA scope. Hold out for a labor day sale or something, I got the PA scope package with butler creek caps, Burris PEPR mount and scope for $229 shipped during their Memorial Day sale. Not suggesting there's going to be an equal sale on Labor Day, but might as well wait a couple weeks....
I'm pretty happy with my Bushnell AR-223. I bought the model with a traditional crosshair, instead of their illuminated red-dot-ish reticle. I can't think of anything bad to say about it. The 1x has a bit of magnification to it, so co-witnessing isn't an option.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ABP5UXG?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00
i just got this 130 dollar bushell 1-4x variable power scope for my ar556 havent zero'ed it yet. Had to remove the rear sight to make space for the mount.
Amazon has it: http://www.amazon.ca/Bushnell-Optics-TRS-25-Hirise-Riflescope/dp/B00ABP8YCA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1420235531&sr=8-2&keywords=Bushnell-trs25
I had it up on /r/gunsforsale but I have a Bushnell PCL (it's cheaper elsewhere, but just linking there for info). I'll sell for $170 shipped (shipping is typically $7 from Philly for that weight). PM me if you're interested.
Beyond that the PA optic linked above nice.
I recently took my AR out to the range after a winter hiatus and I was surprised to that when I looked through my scope I was seeing strange double images and blur. I thought I might be going crazy so I passed it to my buddy and he also had the same sensation.
Does anyone know the cause and or how to fix it?
Scope in question is a Bushnell AR series BDC "THROWDOWN" (you have to say it like a pro wrestler)
What should I do?
Also I have been having accuracy issues with this rifle and I suspect the scope as one of the prime suspects. Could these be related?
AR accessories:
Bushnell FFP Illuminated BTR-1 BDC Reticle AR-223 Riflescope with Target Turrets and Throw Down PCL, 1-4x 24mm on sale for $170 right now with MIR.
https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Riflescope-tilted/dp/B00CIY7JAU
Congrats, excellent choice! Once you've played around with it for a bit pick up a Bushnell TRS-25 to add another level of fun.
Here go OP: https://www.amazon.com/Savage-Rascal-Picatinny-Scope-Mount/dp/B01AAU4276/ref=pd_cp_200_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01AAU4276&pd_rd_r=S9V7KBANP5KVV11ZCFMZ&pd_rd_w=U8RYF&pd_rd_wg=8NvUI&psc=1&refRID=S9V7KBANP5KVV11ZCFMZ
Although the Atibal (trijicon knockoffs) are very good and quite small.
And of course the TRS25 is a great little dot that works well: https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Riflescope-tilted/dp/B00CIY7JAU/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_200_bs_img_1?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=MC1AZD9NGV81JTH8KGQR
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/N16XhHOUxFY/maxresdefault.jpg
Right away everyone wants to shit talk the red dot. I used one of those cheap red dots from amazon for almost a year on my gun and it held its zero fine without a problem, so it was totally worth the money. When mine did give out on me, the dot would bounce around when i would shoot, and I bought the Bushnell red dot for like $60 which has a lifetime warranty. If your red dot takes a shit on you and you don't want to spend an arm and a leg for a sight, you could get something similar to that bushnell.
would this be good for a low sight https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Riflescope-tilted/dp/B00CIY7JAU
Thats all well and good, but I am disagreeing with the statement "Any red/green red dot under 100$ isn't worth the money". There are certainly decent red dots under $100 and if you look around, you can find the TRS-25 for under $100. Exhibit A
Dagger Defense is re-branded Chinese stuff. Might work well might not.
https://www.amazon.com/Magpul-Industries-Generation-Backup-Sights/dp/B01L0DOBXC
Magpul sights These can be found cheaper and keep in mind Black Friday is coming up soon.
https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trophy-TRS-25-Riflescope-tilted/dp/B00CIY7JAU/ref=pd_lpo_200_bs_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=EWH2DCMR6125DKX0G9W3
Bushnell Red Dot Not the best but holds zero and is great for the price.
Personally I would try to score a deal on quality sights on Black Friday or Cyber Monday
Check out the vortex crossfire II, it's cheap and reliable. I've been using mine for a year now, never lost zero and can drive tacks at 300 yards.
https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-Crossfire-1-4x24-Riflescope/dp/B00HYRGODO/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=vortex+lpvo&qid=1575061015&sr=8-3
Something like a SPR style mount mount would fit nicely. I'm not too familiar with repros since I mainly use real steel stuff.
Going from basic rings to a decent mount will do wonders.
Check out the Aero Precision SPR mount. A little more expensive but half the weight.
I don't think I'll be needing rapid detachment. This look like a good option for me?
For the difference in price I'd go with the Aero ultralight mount. $75 all day for around half the weight. 3 oz isn't a lot but the ounces really add up when they're stacked awkwardly on the top of your gun.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00JVTD4EK/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1517512502&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=aero+ultralight+30mm
Now I'm also seeing that FFP (Front Focal Plane) is superior to SFP (Secondary Focal Plane), and a good budget scope for FFP is the Primary Arms Primary Arms 4-14X FFP? Could I use that at ranges below 100 yards?
Depending on your budget I do like the vortex strike eagle or the primary arms FFP 4x14x44 . Either scope will be perfect for 556/308
Primary Arms 4-14X Tactical Scope with Front Focal Plane PA4-14XFFP https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00L5IL5X2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_-Itazb1FKKZ55
Vortex Optics Strike Eagle 1-6 x 24 AR-BDC Reticle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S2P2KKS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_IKtazbDKD5V12
You will need a pepr style mount in 30mm for either of these.
Here is the 4x14 on my 308
AR10 https://imgur.com/a/euDyO
http://www.amazon.com/Primary-Arms-4-14X44-Mil-Scope/dp/B00L5IL5X2
This would be a pretty decent scope choice for the price.
http://www.amazon.com/Primary-Arms-4-14X-Tactical-PA4-14XFFP/dp/B00L5IL5X2
Affordable beginners scope that has nothing but good reviews is the primary arms 4-14 x 44 ffp. I bought one for my Savage Hog Hunter and love it.
http://www.amazon.com/Primary-Arms-4-14X-Tactical-PA4-14XFFP/dp/B00L5IL5X2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1453474544&sr=8-1&keywords=primary+arms+4-14x44+ffp
http://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-4-14x44-mil-mil-ffp-scope/p/kt-pa4-14xffp/
> Primary arms 4-14x44mm FFP MilMil
http://www.amazon.com/Primary-Arms-4-14X44-Mil-Scope/dp/B00L5IL5X2/ref=pd_sxp_f_pt
Maybe even cheaper here, i'll look into it if I want to upgrade.
http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L5IL5X2/ref=crt_ewc_title_dp_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AJXUKDD490V61
My buddy is worried they scrimped somewhere to get the FFP tech in there. You love yours?
Funny part is it's goign on my 5.56 first for training and hunting this year. I just love the modularity.
I have owned and used the Trijicon LED ACOG and I have also used (but not owned) the tritium ACOG during my time in the USMC.
I have never owned a VCOG but I hear they are as good as, if not a little better than, the Vortex. However keep in mind that you are paying $900 more for literally no gain in performance. Both the Vortex and VCOG are 1-6 variable and are similarly weighted.
The VCOG is more durable than the Vortex, however Vortex has an expansive lifetime warranty. If it breaks during normal use they will fix it or replace it. Trijicon has a 5 year warranty on the VCOG for internal electronics, and a "limited lifetime" warranty for material and workmanship.
The VCOG is LED (no tritium) and works off a single AA battery. The Vortex is also LED and is powered off a common watch/camera battery, a CR2032 battery. The CR2032 is a bit harder to come by but you can buy a huge pack of them off Amazon and never have to worry about having a spare.
Last thing is that the magnification adjustment knob on the VCOG comes with "throw lever", which helps in rotating the knob. The Vortex doesn't have that. People who buy the Vortex usually get the "throw lever" to help adjust the knob, as it can be difficult to turn.
https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-Switchview-Throw-SV-3/dp/B00BQWTCZA/ref=pd_bxgy_200_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=KEDFDMZATKJB5CT8RCZR
$55
Lastly, if you aren't sure about variable powered optics, just get yourself a Vortex Strike Eagle. It's the Viper HD's cheaper cousin. It's also a 1-6x variable power scope, weighs 17 oz, and only costs $300. The glass isn't as "clear" and the reticule is messier than the Viper HD, but it'll give you a good feel of what the Viper HD is like. If you're unsure, start with the Strike Eagle, see if you like it (or don't) and move on from there. At worst you now have a nice Strike Eagle that you can sell to any of your friends with ARs (they have been selling like hotcakes). At best you'll keep the Strike Eagle and put it on your wife's/kids/friends AR build.
https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-Strike-AR-BDC-Reticle/dp/B00S2P2KKS
P.S. If you get the Vortex scopes keep in mind they don't come with mounts. Be prepared to buy a 30mm tube mount, like the LaRue cantilever mount. The LaRue is a higher end "quick detach" mount, there are cheaper options available.
LaRue Mount
https://www.amazon.com/LaRue-Tactical-Cantilever-Scope-Mount/dp/B00Z7G9QJS/?th=1&psc=1
$210
Vortex Cantilever mount
https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Cantilever-Mount-Offset-CM-202/dp/B009N24RN2/
$88
https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-Strike-AR-BDC-Reticle/dp/B00S2P2KKS/ref=pd_bxgy_200_2?ie=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00S2P2KKS&pd_rd_r=JWJ5Y69AB66C3FVZM0R7&pd_rd_w=v8Roe&pd_rd_wg=7uLn6&psc=1&refRID=JWJ5Y69AB66C3FVZM0R7
yeah, on the variable end i've looked at this crossfire and also nikon prostaff. nikon's a bit cheaper but i already have a bunch of vortex optics and like them (and their lifetime warranty) a lot.
however, i don't think variable power is all that useful in my application, so i'd rather avoid the weight/fragility penalty.
my "ideal" scope for this setup would be leupold fx-i 4x28, but it's much more than i'd like to spend here.
is there a scope on the market that'll get me 80% of that for 50% of the money?
That looks like a decent package, people generally review the scope well.
If I was budgeting $400 I would probably try and grab the FV with the heavier target barrel (It sounds like mainly you're hunting paper).
http://www.cabelas.ca/product/4990/savage-mark-ii-fv-heavy-barrel-bolt-action-rifle-w-accutrigger
It looks like the MK II has a rebate available for $30 so you could mail that in and have $130 left over for a scope. You could likely get one better than the one that comes packaged.
people generally like the 3-9x32 w/ AO simmons:
http://www.cabelas.ca/product/24337/simmons-22-mag-rimfire-riflescopes
The simmons is probably about on par with the packaged scope but the AO will be a benefit.
but if you picked up a Nikon rimfire prostaff you would have a stellar package, downside to the prostaff is I don't think it comes with rings so you would need to buy rings too ($30 on the high end). This would put you about $50 over budget.
https://www.amazon.ca/Nikon-ProStaff-Rimfire-3-9X40mm-Reticle/dp/B00SMX95IA/ref=sr_1_3?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1487731505&sr=1-3&keywords=rimfire+scope
It came with a savage rifle I bought a while ago. Here's an almost identical one:
Nikon ProStaff Rimfire with BDC Reticle, 3-9 x 40mm
Scope
Nikon has a ProStaff Rimfire with BDC Reticle, 3-9 x 40mm https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SMX95IA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_61iJzbVBWHYPE
For 22's I prefer a smaller scope with less magnification like Vortex Optics Crossfire II 2-7x32 Rifle Scope, Dead-Hold BDC Reticle (CF2-31003) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0106BYBPM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_86iJzbEWQ86BS because I'm not taking 400+ yard shots
Nikon makes a rimfire specific optic.
Got this one for my 1022 for $96. Price fluctuates a lot on amazon so make sure to keep an eye on camelcamelcamel or similar type price tracker.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SMX95IA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have the Vortex Crossfire 2-7 and I like it a lot. You just don’t have a 1x, but it’s better than the fish eye of the 1-6 Strike Eagle.
Keep in mind you'll probably want to get a riser for it to get a proper cheek weld.
sure, I ordered this one https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CKYYH16/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So I used my tax returns to purchase a complete upper and some accesories.
Bushmaster XM-15 E2S lower
SAA complete upper
15" ML5 MLOK rail
16" SAA 5.56 NATO 1:7 nitride M4 Barrel
Complete Nickel Boron BCG
Dragons Head muzzle brake/ linear comp Gen II
Magpul MBUS sights
Magpul MLOK hand stop
Magpul Buffer tube
MFT Battlelink Minimalist Stock
Houge pistol grip
I've got one of them custom engraved dust covers on the way as well. It says "Bona Nocte" on the inside. Which is Latin for "Good Night."
I've been looking at this scope
And possibly this trigger
There's a slight wobble between the upper and lower, any way to fix that? It's very slight, but I want it to feel rock solid.
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There are other sellers, free shipping but not prime: https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00200E0HM/ref=olp_f_primeEligible
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>generally regarded as trash and so is the vast majority of Amazon optics.
What you buy matters, not from where:
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https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-Spitfire-Prism-Scope/dp/B00HYRGNLM
https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Zone-223-Reticle-Riflescope-Turrets/dp/B00ABP5UXG
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