Best jogger baby strollers according to redditors

I was also on this flight, the lady had been told at a previous gate(her statement when he was telling her she needed to check it) she could bring on as carry on. She demonstrated to the attendant how small it got, and boy it got small I want one of these myself now(looks like it was some sort of magic quad fold thing that made it look almost like a briefcase). She was afraid the stroller would not be returned at the stop and be forced to walk around with all her stuff and the baby. In fact at one point another flight attendant came back with the stroller and put it in over head storage.

I'm pretty sure they didn't have spare crew for the flight and in order to keep the flight from getting further delayed they let him stay and set her up with a new flight. It's not the best outcome as he should have been removed the second he got all riled up but I can understand doing this rather than making the other people on the plane wait 1-2 hours for a backup to come. This is just my thought on it though. I really would like to make sure they made it home as the babies were playing with me and a couple of other people in the boarding gate before the flight.

Edit: Found the stroller in question here : https://www.amazon.com/Baby-Jogger-City-Tour-stroller/dp/B01J258IBQ?th=1

14lbs weight and i you look at their site they have a bag cover that if used you'd wouldn't think it was a stroller.

What is the source of this? This sounds like a flight attendants blog entry and there are some things in it which are untrue. If we're trusting anonymous sources on this, this comment from someone also on the flight seems to indicate the above is not correct:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dallas/comments/66skqs/american_airlines_dfw_flight_attendant_violently/dglqjco/

>I was also on this flight, the lady had been told at a previous gate(her statement when he was telling her she needed to check it) she could bring on as carry on. She demonstrated to the attendant how small it got, and boy it got small I want one of these myself now(looks like it was some sort of magic quad fold thing that made it look almost like a briefcase). She was afraid the stroller would not be returned at the stop and be forced to walk around with all her stuff and the baby. In fact at one point another flight attendant came back with the stroller and put it in over head storage.
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>I'm pretty sure they didn't have spare crew for the flight and in order to keep the flight from getting further delayed they let him stay and set her up with a new flight. It's not the best outcome as he should have been removed the second he got all riled up but I can understand doing this rather than making the other people on the plane wait 1-2 hours for a backup to come. This is just my thought on it though. I really would like to make sure they made it home as the babies were playing with me and a couple of other people in the boarding gate before the flight.
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>Edit: Found the stroller in question here : https://www.amazon.com/Baby-Jogger-City-Tour-stroller/dp/B01J258IBQ?th=1
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>14lbs weight and i you look at their site they have a bag cover that if used you'd wouldn't think it was a stroller.


In point number 1 in the post above it claims "dragging behind a very large folded stroller that was too big for the overhead bin or to go under a seat. ", and this is obviously not true. In fact, it seems the stroller was already in the overhead when this happened, watch the woman with the package with pink ribbon who's trying to explain to the captain about what happened and you can see she indicates the flight attendant was pulling the stroller down from the overhead.

Also this claim: "After about 40 minutes she deplanes again this time telling all of the passengers, who are now becoming vocal in support of the flight crew" sounds like complete BS, everybody on the video we saw was aghast at what the flight attendant had done and at the :50 mark of original video you can hear passenger say that the flight attendant struck the woman with the stroller while trying to be forceful.

We have this and love it.

http://www.amazon.com/Baby-Jogger-City-Select-Stroller/dp/B003Q85CRY

Lots of different configurations you can do and the seats recline far enough that an infant can sleep in them no problem. (we did get infant inserts from target at 10 bucks a pop.) We also have a glider board attachment so our three year old can sit / stand behind it as well.

Can't recommend this one enough.

Edit: missed your username. We'll see how you feel about that in a couple months after the twins. :)

You can search for "large size" in the Stroller category on Amazon. The top result is the Britax B-Agile. I don't have that one but I love everything else from Britax, it's great quality. Only $227 new, up to 55 pounds and one of the reviews says it works for a child currently 42 inches long.

https://www.amazon.com/Britax-2016-B-Agile-Stroller-Black/dp/B01DW54WYE

I have the Baby Jogger City Mini. My 5-year-old still fits in it just fine. I love how easily it folds. Maximum weight is 50 pounds. They have "head height" dimensions on their website, you could measure how many inches your son's head is from a chair when he's sitting.

https://www.amazon.com/Baby-Jogger-2016-City-Single/dp/B019W8W6DY

The City Mini GT is a little larger, up to 65 pounds and a few more inches in head height. It's more than $300, but if you search Craigslist I'd be surprised if you couldn't find a used one in really good condition if you're willing to pay $200 and up.

https://www.amazon.com/Baby-Jogger-2016-City-Single/dp/B019W8W8P0

There are lots more! 41 inches and 38 lbs is not at all too large for the right class of stroller. It just won't work for strollers optimized for small babies, and it won't work for some "lightweight" strollers.

Alright so we’re not carless but a one car family. So while my husband has the car for work I do all the running around with the kid (and baby when he’s done cooking) alone. Also when our oldest was born we lived in Germany and I grew up in a big city. Most people walk or take the bus/subway there.

We have tried several things.

car seat since we do have a car and needed to drive to and from the hospital we kind of needed one. We bought a Graco snug fit car seat while it was on sale. With base and beltway. It also was airline approved since we knew we’d be flying with baby and having baby have her own seat in the plane made things so much easier on us during the transatlantic flight.

Stroller(s)
We have bought 4. Super expensive to super cheap umbrella stroller.

• expensive stroller: we bought this one in Germany. I love it. It’s super versatile, you can take the bassinet part off and carry baby while sleeping in there wherever you need. You can use the bassinet as a sleeping place when visiting people. It swings a bit or you can extent tiny feet that will block the swinging motion.
  The sport seat can be turned forward or backward. The springs are amazing!! I literally pushed the thing through fields and grass and little one sleep away happily.
  The only negative thing I’ve found is that it doesn’t have free moving front wheels. And it is bulky. It’s also a bit wide for american sidewalks.
  
  
• umbrella stroller: utter crap. I hate it. While it’s nice you can fold it up and it barely takes up space. My arms where to short so I always have to hunch over, it’s noisy, i kept kicking the wheels/axle because apparently i make too large steps. Not fun.
  
  
• Graco click connect snugrider: fit perfectly for our car seat. We used this while at the airport since we didn’t want to bring the expensive stroller out of fear that it’ll get damaged when checking it at the terminal. We bought that one on sale for $60 and it did perform amazingly for what we needed it to.
  
  
• Baby Trend Jogging stroller: bought this when we moved to the states and our dd was a bit older (15 months) my husband was away for 2 weeks (with the car) and I needed something easier to manage on limited american sidewalk space. We live on a military base so I can do all the shopping and medical stuff by foot. It works great. The only thing I’m not too happy with is the harness. It looks a bit loose and is hard to fit to a smaller child.
  
  
  So when it comes to strollers I honestly would have rather spent a bit more money on a jogging stroller than buying the $600 german monster, so I’d have the same comfort for baby as the $600 one but smaller and more manageable. I hope that makes sense. In Germany the $600 one was amazing. But Germany is a bit better laid out for pedestrians than the US. Maybe a bit smaller than the one we got but quality wise and versatility wise it’s my winner.
  
  Baby Carriers
  I absolutely adore them. We/I have tried a few.
  
  
• Moby Wrap: nice way to get used to wrapping babies and very comfortable to wear. However since the material is stretchy I couldn’t really relax and just not have a hand on baby because i always felt like o have to redo it and re tighten it.
  
  
• Ring Sling: no thank you. Our baby was a super chunk and carrying the weight on one side of my hip gave me so much back pain. So much hip pain and the rings pushed into my skin and bruised me.
  
  
• Soft Structured Baby Carrier: we have a Tula Baby Carrier and it’s amazing. You can carry your baby on your chest (no you can’t forward face baby. That is not good for their hips. Ever. In any carrier. Just because a carrier offers that option doesn’t mean it’s good for their hip development) and when they’re old enough to hold their heads up reliably on your back like a backpack. The weight is distributed evenly throughout your shoulders/back/hip. Yes you’ll have some back pain at the end of a long day. But you do have that if you’re lugging around any backpack. We carried our daughter a lot. My husband loved it because she’d fall asleep on his chest when we were walking, shopping, sightseeing or hiking. Also keeps Baby grabbers at bay lol. And if your wife wants to nurse, you can nurse while baby is in the carrier! That’s a game changer! It takes practice and especially in a SSC an older baby who knows how to nurse and latch.
  
  
• Woven Wrap Carrier: we haven’t gotten to try it yet since we lost the baby we bought it for and our rainbow is still cooking. But I hope it’ll take away the feeling of having to rewrap because the material doesn’t stretch.
  
  
  So for living in a big city I’d recommend having a small, agile stroller and definitely a baby carrier. Especially if you go shopping you can put the groceries into the stroller and push baby. If you just want to be out and about a soft structured carrier (SSC) is worth its weight in gold. And you’re more mobile and fit into crowded places like the subway easier.
  
  I hope that helps you decide what to do :) good luck.

BOB jogging stroller. Best thing ever for walks
https://www.amazon.com/BOB-Revolution-Jogging-Stroller-Black/dp/B019EZD7Y2?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1&psc=1

We have a City Select that is quite nice. A little heavy for my wife, but most of the solidly built strollers (Read: not plastic) are in the same ball park. If you plan on doing a lot of jogging with the baby, you should look into a model specifically for that, otherwise, we decided that this was a pretty good balance of rugged and practical.

We originally got the adapters that allow the car seat to click directly into the stroller. If/when you have another kid, you can also get a second seat and it's very configurable. There are adapters for most major brands of car seats.

For car seats, we have a Graco Click Connect 35 - (Can't find a link right now. Discontinued?) which we used when the kid was an infant. Now that she's bigger, we have an Evenflo Symphony DLX that I really like. (We actually have 2 - one for each car). It can be used for infants, but does not easily remove from the car and click into a stroller or make for a good place for the baby to sleep when out and about. This means that you will need a car seat that can go from birth to about 25-30lbs and then 25-30lbs to 70+.

Let me know if you have any questions.

1. Lucie's List - it has a whole registry walk-through, reviews, and separates things by price.
   
   All car seats have to meet safety standards so you can really pick any one you'd like. More expensive seats will have a higher weight limit, nicer fabrics, and can be more comfortable.
   
   This is what I have and love:
   Chicco Keyfit 30
   
   Graco 4ever - We've moved onto this seat now.
   
   Baby Jogger City Mini (not actually a jogging stroller)
   
   Pack N Play w/bassinet
   
   Swing - I'm pretty sure we got this for $150 at BRU
   
   Edit: formatting

This may just be my two, and not really a twin thing, but Miracle Blankets.

https://www.amazon.com/Miracle-Blanket-15799-Swaddle-Blue/dp/B000G0KQWQ/ref=sr_1_2_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1479392777&sr=8-2&keywords=miracle-blanket&th=1

Anything else they struggle and and get cranky because they get their arms up, but not all the way out. They will fight anything else forever.

Also a Baby Breeza bottle sterilizer. Ours runs 24/7. Also take however many bottles you think you need and add at least four, probably six.

We also have this duel carrier:

https://twingocarrier.com/

We have never used it as a double, but it breaks into two singles pretty well and cheaper than two individual carriers.

Edit: Forgot one, strollers. We did a ton of research and this one seemed the best for doubles:

https://www.amazon.com/Baby-Jogger-City-Select-Stroller/dp/B003Q85CRY

Not cheap at all, but if it is in the budget I don't think there is a better twin stroller out there.

Good luck. I also recommend keeping the fridge stocked with wine and beer, but maybe that is just us. :)

https://www.amazon.com/Baby-Jogger-Select-Single-Stroller/dp/B019W8WJ8G/ref=sr_1_5_s_it?s=baby-products&ie=UTF8&qid=1512049880&sr=1-5&keywords=city%2Bselect&th=1

I own the Graco jogger (http://www.amazon.com/Graco-FastAction-Connect-Stroller-Tangerine/dp/B00AHVR4KG) and love it. I haven't actually jogged with it but it's great on uneven pavement, flatish grassy areas when we've been hiking, and the gravel trails around my house. My only complaint is that the sun shade doesn't lock in the fully extended position, I solve that issue with some baby sunglasses for my 6 mo old. Even fully extended I would have to make him wear them since sunshades don't do a whole lot unless the sun is directly overhead. It fits comfortably in my trunk (Prius) and is easy enough to fold and unfold.

Not sure if it will fit in your Jeep, but you obviously have to start them out young:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EL9QNKG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_6KMOzb061B3TB

Congrats!

A couple caveats:

• As indicated by my super-cool flair, "My kid is 4" so she was born in 2010. I'll give info as to what we did. YMMV with regard to brand/model due to passage of time.
  
  
• My kid is very thin, and very tall. She just turned four last month, and she's deep in to 5T sizes.
  
  That said, we used the Chicco Keyfit 30 as the infant seat. We used the BOB Revolution stroller. Note that in order to make the seat attach, you need the snack tray accessory. You remove the snack tray piece and leave the support bar, which allows your infant seat to slide right in to place.
  
  Time wise, my Amazon order history indicates we got about nine months out of the infant seat. From there we went to Recaro convertible seats. Once we were done with the infant seat, I installed the snack tray/cup holder deal to the BOB and we used it for another year.
  
  My kid is a walker, which is to say, we brought the stroller with us everywhere at first, until we realized we never used it. We lived about a 1/4 mile walk to her care center, and for the most part, she walked the whole way to/from even from a young age, not wanting to be in the stroller. I finally sold the thing just before she turned three because it was taking up wall space in my garage. Again, YMMV.

I love this stroller so much that every time I use it I end up singing it's praises. It's worth every penny!

Also, it's less expensive from Amazon: http://smile.amazon.com/Baby-Jogger-City-Select-Stroller/dp/B003Q85CRY/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1410236822&sr=8-4&keywords=Baby+jogger+city+select+double

I got Britax car seats to go with it because the Britax adaptor is super easy to use, and less pricey than the universal one they offer.

Have I mentioned how much I love my stroller?

I travelled a lot when my twins were young, and I liked the baby carrier/umbrella stroller combo for traveling through cities. One of my friends with close in age kids has a city select double stroller that I'd totally have spent the money on, if it had been available.

https://www.amazon.com/Baby-Jogger-Select-Double-Stroller/dp/B01F7DWY9O

Happy birthday!! :D This is such a sweet gesture you're doing. Giving feels so amazing, it's like a gift in itself right? hehe.
I think that Odin's (almost 3 years old) ultimate gift would have to be This stroller


http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/367CEBFHDAFWM/ref=topnav_lists_1
Here is his wish list.




We take walks in several different parks with rough terrain in Salem, OR, and his current stroller's wheels are breaking/falling off and are hard to navigate the terrain. We've been trying to save up for one but it just hasn't been able to happen.
I'm not sure if this is more a gift for us as a family or not, but It would help us continue our routine and he absolutely LOVES going on walks through the parks.

<3 <3

I'm a runner. Just bought a babyjogger for the new baby due any day now: from amazon

It's good to 30kg. People use them for 7 yr olds when going out for a run. Lots of storage space, and they easily fold up with one motion. Might be what you need?

https://www.amazon.com/Baby-Trend-Expedition-Jogger-Stroller/dp/B007O102JM

Love this stroller!

This is the one I have.

I just got this Graco

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00AHVR4KG/ref=redir_mdp_mobile

I think it's just as good as a bob, but way cheaper. Also folding and unfolding is crazy easy.

I think this one is the one I have with a front wheel - it's not a "true" jogger...and it works well in city areas, indoor/outdoor, etc...But it isn't ideal for actual jogging/running (which is fine, cuz I don't do either).

I liked it b/c it was a slightly smaller profile than a traditional 4 wheel stroller to make it easier to move in crowds.

I'm pretty sold on the city select because we want 3 kids and I can almost see my future with needing at least a 2 seater at once. I want a stroller that I can add a section to later for a second baby instead of buying a whole new stroller. I want to buy it once and only once.

Can anyone tell me how this compares to the BOB flex? That's the one I've had on my registry based on the Lucie's List recommendations/reviews, but this looks like a great deal! https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019EZD7Y2/ref=br_it_dp_o_nS_ttl?ie=UTF8&colid=3C4K778D98X90&coliid=ILJ7WXE8H1CB4&vs=1

I looked on Amazon for strollers under $200 with the best reveiws. The way I shop is by deciding on a price I'm comfortable with and then find the product under that price with the best reviews and so far it has worked out. For my first we bought this one:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0190QVZH6/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1485712412&sr=8-1&keywords=jogging+stroller

I love it! And for my second we bought a double stroller:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007NYRAC2/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1485712467&sr=8-1&keywords=double+jogging+stroller

Haven't used it but we set it up and like the way it feels and it's a great price!

We got the Graco FastAction Jogging Stroller. It's heavy and a bugger to lift in and out of the trunk. But it's sturdy, it's got two cup holders and it's a pretty good price. I especially love that it's easy to put away/fold up. All you gotta do is pull the strap, and the stroller folds up. It's got a phone holder too but iPhones are too big to fit.

Definitely some sort of city jogger stroller, the closest match I could find was this. The configuration in the pic is the bassinet

Baby Jogger City Mini 2 Stroller - 2019 | Compact, Lightweight Stroller | Quick Fold Baby Stroller, Jet https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NXW16XJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_ER-1DbN7HQ7ZW

Check this one out. I almost bought this one because I fell in love with how lite and easy it was to fold. It may not be in the level of baby zen yoyo but it definitely was compact and light. Also it can be used with car seats and goes nearly flat. Price seems to be 230 ish depending on where you buy.

Seen several using this Bob offroad jogging stroller. Many parents get it and let it sit in the garage till it's outgrown. Probably under $50 on Craigslist (even if listed for 200. Parents want their garage space for bikes). https://www.amazon.com/BOB-Revolution-SE-Single-Stroller/dp/B004DC9TAI

If you have a Graco car seat I would highly recommend the Graco Relay. It comes with the click in car seat adapter and I've seen the price dip well under $200. I have a Bob double jogger now and I'd put the quality right up there with Bob.

We were in the same boat as you, couldn't justify $500 on the Bob Revolution. For whatever reason target had a random clearance on it last year and we bought it for about $250. So keep an eye out and you might get lucky, we did!

Otherwise we were looking at this Joovy.

We have the Joovy room 2, it randomly broke, we called Joovey and they sent a new one to our house in 2 days and they covered all associated expenses. So I trust their cust service.

I love my Graco Relay Jogger. It's so smooth. It turns really well and the shock absorbers make it handle bumpy terrain nicely. The only problem is that it's not small.

I am more so doubting between these 4:

• https://www.amazon.com/Graco-Fastaction-Connect-Stroller-Tangerine/dp/B00UVW45IA/ref=dp_ob_title_baby?th=1
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NJZDHW6?psc=1
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Joovy-Ultralight-Jogging-Stroller-Black/dp/B015ZL8IWK/ref=pd_sbs_75_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=1XBZMQRG11DJXH90Z3V6&th=1
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/BOB-2016-Ironman-Stroller-Yellow/dp/B01BSPDQ9M/ref=dp_ob_title_baby
  
  I'm mostly concerned about size (need to be able to put camping gear in), smooth riding (bob ironman has a big front wheel compared to other three. Not sure if that matters on bumpier roads or not) and of course the cost (I'd get the cheapest one if the size and smooth riding was the same)

Even with only five weeks left I'm jealous of everyone due before me, haha. I think there are 2 or 3 other ladies due after Astro and before me, but I wouldn't complain if I was the next birth ;)

I know the third trimester sucks for a lot of women. I feel very grateful that I'm feeling as good as I am, and I love that I'm still able to be active.

I stretch everyday even if I can't get a workout in, I drink LOTS of water, I try to eat healthy while letting myself have cravings in moderation (or not- some days are bad diet wise and that's okay), I make sure I get plenty of sleep, and I try to listen to my body. I think being relatively active this entire pregnancy has helped, but I don't think that's absolutely necessary to have a pleasant third trimester experience. I wish I had tips that would help everyone else, but I know sometimes it just sucks. Pregnancy can be rough.

There is definitely hope, and I hope you're able to feel good throughout the rest of your pregnancy :)

They can go in jogging strollers, but you can't jog with them. I have a this Graco jogging stroller and my infant car seat clicks right into it.

We have this. It is quite possibly the best investment for baby things we made. Being a bigger guy, it is the perfect size for me to push, and the big wheels roll over just about anything. It was the only thing we needed during a 4 day trip to disneyland, and people kept mistaking it for a Bob, which is more than twice as expensive. Super awesome.

Amazon cyber monday deals that I've found:

• Halo sleep sacks.
  
  
• Boppy newborn lounger
  
  
• "Up tp 40%" on select Britex and BOB items. Also "up to 25% off" select Britex and BOB items.
  
  
• $30 gift card with select Ergobaby carries
  
  
• Save up to 20% on select nursery furniture
  
  
• gDiapers newborn bundle
  
  
• 20% off select 4moms products
  
  
• Prime members save up to 40% more on select baby items such as Pampers and Huggies diapers
  
  
• Save $60 or more on select baby jogger strollers
  
  
• $20 gift card with select Ergobaby Adapt carriers
  
  
• 20% Skip Hop Downtown Chic diaper bag
  
  
• Save 30% on Fisher Price Jumperoos and Gyms
  
  There are also tons of sales on supplies like wipes, diapers, shampoos, body wash, lotion, etc.

I have no idea what your idea of not costing a ton is, but I have this one and it works just fine. About $150.

I have recently fallen deeply in love with Baby Joggers City Select. It’s really sturdy, has a lot of configurations, and you can add a second seat. Amazon typically has good discounts and Buy Buy Baby will price match.

I was able to get the Lux model on a steeeeep discount just by stalking the amazon price, but some of the colors also are always discounted ($629 reg, $440 discount).

This is the stroller she had.

https://www.amazon.com/Baby-Jogger-City-Tour-stroller/dp/B01J258IBQ?th=1

We just bought the City Select last weekend! There's a manufacturer sale going on right now so Amazon, BuyBuyBaby, Babies'R'Us all have the single seat strollers on sale for 400.

Amazon is the best deal because they are selling the double stroller for $519 (as opposed to 400 +169 for the second seat kit). And you could use your 15% completion discount to bring the total down to $440!

not cheap, but we use the city select by baby jogger. It's a dream to push, folds easily, and can be disassembled in 2 minutes if you are trying to fit is somewhere small.

Oh and the seats can be turned in any direction, so you can have your 2 kids face each other if you wanted.

> Edit: Found the stroller in question here : https://www.amazon.com/Baby-Jogger-City-Tour-stroller/dp/B01J258IBQ?th=1

Oh I am so going to order this (ok back to the incident at hand) and than what happened?

I am in love with my BOB!!! I got the Flex because I'm 5'9" and need the extra height in the handle bars.

My almost 4 year old SS fits in it with tons of room to grow still. He said it's pretty comfy too It's super heavy duty and navigated a corn maze this past fall with no issues. The only thing that sucks is if you are going to use it with a car seat, make sure you get a Graco, Britax, Peg Perego or Chicco seat.

I find that a lot of people sell BOB's on craigslist if you don't mind second hand. I saw someone recommend Children's Orchard and to be honest, mine has never had joggers. But you can check there too!

It's fold isn't bad, and it actually can fit in the back of my SO's sedan (BMW 335i) with room to grow. The front wheel comes off super easily in case you need even more room. It's a bit heavy, but it's a heavy duty jogger. The canopy is AMAZING on it.

Another jogger I could recommend is baby jogger. I've never used it but it's compatible with a wider range of car seats and I'm sure it's as easy to use as the BOB.

Edit: Otherwise, if you aren't going to be jogging with the stroller I have the city select as well. It does really well with all types of terrain and can be 'expanded' to a double stroller. Again, my 4 year old SS still fits just as long as he doesn't have a huge bulky snow suit on lol. It's expensive, but I actually bought mine when they were having a buy the stroller and get the second seat free. So I saved a ton of money that way.

Probably this jogging stroller. I'm a SAHM now, and the only times I can run kid-free are either early in the morning (when it's still dark) or after my kids (aged 2 and 6) are in bed, when it's dark. A jogging stroller would allow me to take my 2yr old out on runs with me. I can run on the treadmill at the gym, but it's hard to train for races (I have 2 10ks coming up in November and December) on a treadmill, since races are run outdoors.