(Part 2) Best mp3 & mp4 players according to redditors

My bet's on an [ipod nano] (https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/electronics/detail-page-2/B002L6HE9G-1.jpg)

I still use a Sony Walkman on the reg. They still make them. In MP3 form.
https://www.amazon.ca/Sony-NWE395-B-Walkman-Set-of/dp/B01CCESGDO/ref=sr_1_3?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIxszshq2r5AIVVB-tBh1JlgAQEAAYASAAEgJT9_D_BwE&hvadid=267391388281&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=1001973&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=759569422209924282&hvtargid=kwd-361469344077&hydadcr=4899_9980821&keywords=sony+walkman+mp3+player&qid=1567194134&s=gateway&sr=8-3

I hope people come around with some good recommendations past the Ipod Classic. I own one, but it'd be nice to know of a nice alternative, due to Apple discontinuing them and the potential, that while I do my best to make mine last for as long as possible, shit still happens.

I found something once, as an alternative. Off hand I don't recall what it was, but I'll go hunting for it and edit in a copy of the name and link. EDIT: Fiio X5II http://www.amazon.ca/Generation-Portable-High-Res-Audio-Player/dp/B00ZWAC25E/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1452195491&sr=8-2&keywords=fiio+x5

The SanDisk Sansa was my go to device for a few years. I tend to push mp3 players past their limits because I run daily. Switched over to a Diver mp3 player and it's now my fav player. It's main benefit - waterproof.

I sweat a lot and sometimes run in the rain - this thing is a champ. Plus, it connects to a computer as a USB drive - nice and simple.

Sony Walkman Sport. So good.

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Walkman-Waterproof-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B00BVUBS36

They're light, stable, easy to use, and get rid of wires. For ~$85, you've got a waterproof standalone MP3 player with 5+ hours of battery. I listen to podcasts on these on a daily basis and have ~200 songs for when I'm in the mood to kick and run a bit harder.

Buy this

and attach it to

This

Total cost $140.00

source: I have one. It looks stylish enough. If anyone wants a pic let me know.

• Sansa Clip 2gb for $25
  
  
• reflective running hat, $12
  
  
• gu 6 packs, $9
  
  
• timex watch, $19+free ship w/prime
  
  
• wrist pocket, $10
  
  
• safety strobe $7
  
  
• headlamp $15
  
  
  
  

I have an 80GB iPod 5.5, but I'm really interested in either the Fiio X3 or the X5. The X5 II has 2 sd card slots for up to 256GB at once. I'm not sure, but you can probably just swap out SD cards preloaded with different songs. It also supports FLAC, OGG, and most relevant audio codecs. I'm sure 128GB cards are going to be $20 in a year or so. That would have a pretty decent futureproofing appeal. However, unlike the iPod, I'd be a little concerned about getting replacement batteries when they wear out.

This is only tangentially related to your question, but I'll throw it out there.

I bought a Sansa Clip MP3 player for about 30 bucks. I got the lowest capacity possible, because there's a very heavy trend of diminishing returns as you go up on the storage capacity. The 8 GB one gives you four times the capacity, but is around $20 more. I got a 16GB microSD card for that same price. So now I have an 18 GB MP3 player for the price that they're selling the 8 GB one.

Which then got me thinking about how much more Apple charges for their higher capacity players. It's a ripoff. Keep this in mind.

One of your options would be to just get a few memory cards and a player you like. You may think switching out the cards is a hassle, and maybe it is, but 16GB of music is quite a bit. Just strategically distribute the music so that the stuff you're most likely to listen to is on one card. At 192kbps, that's over a week of music. Unless you have really good headphones, the encoding isn't going to be the bottleneck of quality. Speaking of headphones, if you go with the Sansa, the included earbuds totally suck and should be used only in an emergency. Keep them around, but you'll want to get something better.

I like the Clip because it's simple. It's idiot proof. It just plays music. It's light, it's easy, it's quick. And hey, they'll eventually make an 80GB microSD card, and then you'll be set.

Do you already have any speakers, or do you just crank your laptop up?

I do two-room audio using one of these amps and two pairs of these speakers--the amp will drive two speakers in parallel on each channel as long as they are 8-ohm speakers. Speaker wire is pretty cheap. I have a server connected to the amp and running Subsonic in jukebox mode for actually playing the music. That way, the server can live out of the way, and I can use the Android app to queue up songs to play.

One thing you could look at is using a wireless audio transmitter or something like the Squeezebox to separate your laptop from the party.

If you actually consider getting the Lepai amp, make sure that you buy it from Parts-Express, because some other sellers don't include the power supply, which is kind of annoying to realize after you receive the amp! Also, if you consider the Dayton speakers I posted, and you listen to electronic or hip-hop music with lots of bass, you'll probably want a separate subwoofer to get enough bass for parties (that is, if your neighbors don't kill you!)

I use a [Walkman] (https://www.amazon.com/Sony-Walkman-NWZA17SLV-Hi-Res-Digital/dp/B00OCJRX8C) (and it's not like you think). Plays FLACs. Sweet interface.

The amp is fine with my 598's with the volume approaching about 75%. Both only 50 ohms, the fiio should handle it fine. The sound quality is crisp. The headphones you use are probably the bottleneck to worry about first.

Fiio MAKES DACs. Their portable DACs pretty much rule the budget market. So I'd hope they know a thing or two about making them. I've heard no glaring differences between the X1 and my fiio e10K. There is also an on-board equalizer feature so you can experiment with that if you want to alter the sound.

I think it's great. They have already released at least one new firmware update so there should be constant improvements moving forward. I'm not familiar with a creative zen but after years of my ipod classic there are definitely some little things to be desired with ease of use for the X1. (accelerating click wheel scrolling comes to mind first. Some other menu browsing quirks)

But it gets the job done. Very simple and straightforward. Drag and drop. Artist/genre/album/file etc. Perfect size. There is no other competetion worth noting at $100 I don't think. It will be easy to share with someone since you can easily swap out micro SD cards. Let me know if you have any other questions, I've had one since it dropped.

The other competitor for double the price is the iBasso, although I've never used one it looks awesome.

my 160-gig ipod is still going strong, but if i ever needed a new mp3 player I'd probably go for a sansa clip: http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Sansa-Clip-Player-Black/dp/B002MAPSQM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1345493264&sr=8-3&keywords=sansa+clip

from everything I've heard, it's very reliable and quality for the price, and is a better deal than an ipod shuffle. it also has a microSD card slot, which means you can customize it however you want; get a small card and use it like a shuffle/workout mp3 player, or get bigger ones like 32 or 64 gigs, and if you don't mind swapping them out, you could easily use multiple cards to hold as much music as a full-size ipod.

otherwise though, I agree that the ipod is pretty much the platonic ideal of mp3 players at this piont.

I was in the same boat as you. Get these FINIS Duo Underwater MP3 Player (Black/Acid Green) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0169RSNPG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_RgedBb4VHKD36

Bluetooth won't work underwater.

I'm trying a couple of these, tomorrow I'll know how they work.

TOMTOP Mini Digital Portable Music MP3/4 Player Micro SD/TF USB Disk Speaker FM Radio (Black)

Has anyone ever used these? I know they're for pool use, and I never swim but I still think it would be handy to have a earbud/mp3 player combo. Are there any other mp3 players out there like this?

One thing good headphones have helped me notice is how terrible the sound quality is on most cell phones. With that in mind, I'm set on finding an affordable high-def MP3 player, too. I'm currently looking at the Fiio X1, although I'm also tempted by the more luxurious Pono, although that is more than twice what the Fiio with a headphone amp would be. I'm too lazy to curate lossless tracks for all of my songs, so I'll probably just go with the Fiio in the end with a 128 gig SD card.

Sorry to hear that your listening experience has been handicapped like that. What have you tried to attenuate it? I occasionally get tinnitus from certain drug combinations, often involving piracetam, but it's never been something that could distract me from music or anything like that. Was there a clear cause of it?

The runners who have posted in other forums are equally enamored of the Ipod Nano and the Sandisk Sport Plus. You'd have to get a used or refurbished Nano as the have been discontinued although new ones still pop up here and there. The Sandisk Sport Plus seems to die after a couple of years. The nano's pretty much never do fail. None of mine have failed yet, except for needing battery replacement. The number of new items coming out have been small because everybody uses their phones. OH, another point - both require sideloading of audiobooks. I usually have 16-20 audiobooks on the Nano plus some songs on days I just don't wanna book.

What everyone else said is awesome advice. Here's my take on all of it:

A few years back I got into great shape swimming, then got a girlfriend, got out of shape. Broke up, then was in below average shape last April. I have consistently gone 1-3 days a week, also with a few weeks missed interspersed in that time due to life being life. After getting back into better shape and the swing of things, if I missed a week, I'd make my second workout of the next week ultra grueling. Now 9 months later, at 31, I'm easily in the best shape I've ever been in, both in cardio and muscle. My workouts have morphed and grown with me and my boredom of swimming laps as my sole form of exercise. (Working as a bartender, it's demanding, but not enough to be a "workout")

1: Everyone's suggestion on this is great. Don't overdue it so you burn out and hate in 2 weeks in. Make it routine, learn to look forward to walking out of the gym feeling like a champion on the days you really wanted to stay in bed.

I feel anything more than 2 days a week is awesome, maybe every other day. Find what works for you. I aim to make my workouts last anywhere from 45min to 60+.

When I started out using swimming as a workout, I was never formally trained or on a swim team, I just like being in water. I used this website: Swimplan.com It helped me learn new strokes, pool equipment and drills. I sprung for the paid version after a few months and loved it when I started going 7 days a week for a little while. Always something new and challenging. The site really helped me dial in my skills, along with youtube-ing anything I was struggling with. For example, because of using the pull buoy, I have a deeper understanding of how my hips should roll during normal freestyle swimming.

Few things to keep in mind during your workout. In the beginning you can be more lenient on yourself, but start paying attention to how long your rests are lasting. The pool I go to has a giant digital lap clock on the edge of the pool. I use that constantly to make sure I am not resting for too long.

2: The Speedo Vanquisher is the goggle I love to use. For the first month or so they stay fog free for me. After that I use the spit technique by licking my finger and wiping the goggle with it and not rinsing.

When I started getting bored of the laps, I bought The Diver MP3 player. I have owned a few underwater mp3 players, so far I like these the most. The earphone part of the kit are a bit weird, but have outlasted the previous brand. My oppionion, if you get an underwater mp3 player, be prepared to be buying replacement headsets, they don't last forever.

3: I think if you keep a weekly routine of swimming, pushing yourself to higher goals when things start getting easy, swimming is one of the best workouts you can get. Hands down. I feel incredible.

Bonus round. Disclaimer, I am a huge nerd

I have recently gotten very bored with swimming laps, I hit my goals of swimming a mile, then started swimming miles every session. Then I figured out how to do the butterfly, set goals to dial the stroke in and swim a 50 meter without stopping. Hit that goal quickly.

I decided to bring dungeons and dragons creativity to the pool with me. After I push off from the wall I imagine I am swimming out into a beautiful tropical bay, the shallow end is transformed to coral reef, aka, no standing, shit hurts. Any rests are done treading water not to exceed 10-30 seconds (depending what activity I am resting up for) Then I pretend, something along the lines of, I am fixing a boat or recovering heavy cargo from the bottom of the bay.

To do this, I use weight belts meant for your arms or legs, clip two together and make a belt from it. I use 2x5lbs for a 10lbs belt and a 2x10lbs for a 20lbs belt and a 10 lbs dive brick. I throw them in the deep end prior to starting. I also will use 3-10 kids dive sticks, toss them in the deep end along with my flippers. If I want a sip of water, this is done while treading water also. I will also do pull-ups out of the water with and without weight belts on. Usually around 3 sets of ten.

I can share what a workout looks like if anyone is interested, they are fantastically difficult and a lot of fun.

I personally like the Neptune Finis, but the Waterfi iPod shuffle was a great (and durable) player you could use in and out of the water -- if you get aftermarket headphones (I've had luck with these: http://www.amazon.com/Hydroharmony-Waterproof-Headphones-Model-HH-01/dp/B00F4LRX3W/ ).

Here's a recent discussion on the topic from this sub: http://www.reddit.com/r/Swimming/comments/2u6uv2/best_way_to_listen_to_music_while_swimming/

What generation nano do you have? I've got a 6th gen and unfortunately it appears that no third party software supports it and there's no way to jailbreak it.

However if I'm wrong I would love to be corrected.

I have the 1st gen of the Fiio X5 and I am pleased with it. The UI could be better, but the sound is great.

Not op but I use these and they work great for me
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CQMN2J0?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

I have three Logitech Squeezebox Radios around my house. I want a TRUE surround sound. The app i cannot live without is the Squeeze Commander. This allows to have an amazing amount of control of the those radios.

I listen to music while I swim. My only complaint about my headphones is that I can't pull my cap over them. I use Sony NWWS413LM 4GB Sports... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CQMN2J0?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

If you don't find anyone here, GameStop sells refurbished ones on their website. There are some on amazon.com as well.

http://www.gamestop.com/ipod/mp3/ipod-nanor-gen-6-8gb-graphite/98183

http://www.amazon.com/Apple-Graphite-Generation-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B002L6HE9G/

Thanks for the advise! I was thinking about purchasing the headphones/mp3 player but not sure if I like the design. This guy looks ideal, but has terrible customer reviews. I want to be able to sync playlists, and evidently this version has difficultly doing so.

I do a lot of running while listening to music. May I suggest any IEM's with comply foam tips.

I would not suggest Klipsch's IEMs as they fall out if sweat gets in your ears (though otherwise I love them).

The foam tips will stay in even if sweaty (admittedly kinda gross).

As far as which IEMs, that is up to you. I run with rather expensive headphones (250$). In your price range I'd probably get something by Shure, which should include the foam tips with the headphones.

Also, on a side note, the Sansa Clip+ is awesome for working out and the cheapest version only runs about 30$. If you plan to keep using your iPhone may I suggest a product by Spibelt. I use one when I can't be without my phone.

I could talk for hours about this. Good luck and feel free to ask questions.

Is this the same one? Cowon Plenue D High Resolution Music Player 32GB (Gold/Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A8NU5CG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_lNxHDbVKV991P

In piscina ho visto un tipo con addosso un lettore mp3 con auricolari evidentemente resistente all'acqua, sono abbastanza sicura sia questo. Sarebbe il passo ulteriore nel mio cammino verso l'isolamento acquatico, perché amo nuotare ma in piscina c'è sempre una confusione infernale.

Qualcuno di voi ha esperienza con questo prodotto o simili? Nel caso potreste scrivere brevemente cosa ne pensate? Il tipo in piscina sembrava avere difficoltà ad indossarlo, ma non so se fosse perché era calvo e/o tonto lui oppure se si sfili tutto dopo una bracciata.

I'm quite happy with my Cowon Plenue D - $180, great battery life, compact, nice display, 32 GB internal/takes external SD cards up to 128 GB.

I also had the IQQ C18 which is supposed to be a budget knockoff of the FiiOs. Good enough for the $70 price I suppose, but there were a bunch of little things that infuriated me. The way it ordered the folders by date rather than alphabetical order, how it wouldn't resume the previous song when you turned it back on, and how it always faded the songs in. But good battery life. NiNTAUS and xDuoo are often mentioned in the same conversations.

Ruizu, Benjie, and AGPTek are brands in the $20-$50 range. Small players that fit in your pocket, good battery life, but fewer features than the more expensive players. Probably a few software bugs like the aforementioned IQQ, but my memory is a little shoddy.

No clue on how it would perform when connected to a sound system, but SanDisk is highly praised.

Yes! I have one and love it! FINIS Duo Underwater Bone Conduction MP3 Player https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0169RSNPG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_fF41CbCS40ZN2

Oh, sorry, I do wear a fanny pack that's mostly unnoticeable to me. I tuck it into my shorts to keep it from bouncing.

If you're looking for something that doesn't require a phone, allowing you to go without a fanny pack altogether, consider one of Sony's Sports Wearables.

It's pretty cool, but mine is really not loud enough. Do you have the same problem?

This is what I've got: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Walkman-Waterproof-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B00BVUBS36

I don't really feel like it ruins my rhythm since - I am a beginner so I have bad one anyways. And well, it's too quiet. I am not too sure whether I am happy about my purchase honestly.

Late to teh thread, but I have this Walkman

64GB, plus a slot for an SD card

I used this for a while. It worked well, but you should be aware of two caveats, though.

• If you push off the wall hard enough, it'll pull the speakers away from your cheeks.
  
  
• You might be surprised at how disruptive music is to your swimming. It came as a total shock to me that I was annoyed by having music play while I swam. It threw me off in all kinds of ways.

You're probably going to have to look for something from either Cowon or Sony these days. Personally I grabbed a Zune HD 64gb before they were discontinued and its still going strong 5 years later, incredibly well built and the music software still works great in Windows 10. I'm not sure what desktop software these two choices I linked used though so a little more research might be necessary. Good Luck!

Like this?

I just bought a pair of these. They're pretty cheap and I've heard good things. I'll report back after a couple days of use.

I do have a waterproof mp3 player.

This is the one.

https://www.amazon.com/Diver-DB-10-Waterproof-Player-Earphones/dp/B00GYIC8AW/ref=sr_1_45?keywords=swim+mp3&qid=1571614351&sr=8-45

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Q9ZDFJQ/ref=sr_1_33?crid=24MHYKBMXYQFI&keywords=mp3%20player%20with%20bluetooth&qid=1556175597&s=gateway&sprefix=MP3%20Player%20with%20Bluetooth%2Caps%2C398&sr=8-33&fbclid=IwAR1kAgBuFv5VuzEUh0qoARzNBVYvqpXWXiyg-jnwv2Q4vzaCwCMOyePF4iE

Depending on her preferences of form factor I'd recommend the Fiio X1, Fiio X3 iBasso dx50, and Sony Walkman High-Res.

They are all comparable in audio quality and it all comes down to form factor and buttons really. The Fiio X3 can work as a standalone DAC for your PC as well. The iBasso dx50 has a touchscreen, and replaceable Galaxy S3 battery while the others all just use buttons. The battery life of the iBasso and Fiio are all around 10-15 hours while the Sony claims 30-50 hours depending on Hi-Res audio or MP3s. The Sony comes with 64GB of built in storage while the X3 has 8GB and the X1 and DX50 have no built in memory but all have micro SD slots you could expand storage easily using these. Also the Sony has Bluetooth for connecting to speakers if your sister needs that.

The UIs:

Fiio X1, Fiio X3, and upgraded ui, iBasso DX50, Sony.

I use one of these. They are super tiny, and have a micro SD slot. The battery lasts forever, too.

The only one that I'm aware of is the new Archos (up to 500GB). It is poorly reviewed, however. So, probably not.
For whatever reasons, the market steered almost completely away from hard drive-based players and towards flash-based. They obviously have their pros and cons, but I'm not sure why flash-based took over as hard and fast as it did.
The only other one that I can think of is the Zune 120 which has less storage than your iPod classic.

Used on Amazon $98 from Amazon warehouse deals (good source) http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/ol/B00ACP3OOM/ref=mw_dp_olp?ie=UTF8&condition=all

Never tried this one but it's half the price. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00DJLTJSQ?cache=59566befd26e74698dbbbdfc40b656fd&pi=SX200_QL40&qid=1413654558&sr=8-1#ref=mp_s_a_1_1

This is made to be used by swimmers

Yeah Microsoft is pissing off all of the consumers all the time.

Especially the Zune

I mean really Microsoft never gives away songs for free it's always stuck in a dumb format




I mean wtf Windows 7 hasn't gotten any positive reviews either.

I mean Microsoft hasn't changed at all and is going to die.

M$ Sucks!

Ok. This may not be perfect but I think it could work nicely. You could take this and put it inside of a stuffy with a velcro pocket like this

That about as cheap as I can think of making what you're looking for. :)

Not bluetooth headphones, but a stand-alone mp3 player that works great are these from Sony.

They're even good in the pool.

Something like this?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CBD65WG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_mN1KAbMMSCZBD

http://www.amazon.com/iBasso-DX50-Mastering-Authorized-Distributor/dp/B00J6RVQJM

Supports all file types.
Internal memory and expandable memory.
24bit.
192kHz.

Fiio x5 is amazing as well.

I suggest reading some reviews:
http://www.head-fi.org/products/category/digital-audio-flac-mp3-players?sort=rating

Yeah, it's only water resistant if you don't open any flap. Either you use the embedded speaker or you could maybe find a bluetooth speaker set. The other option is going with the also water resistant sony walkman

I have been using the SanDisk Clip Sport Plus. It is great.

Link to the live item:

http://www.amazon.com/Apple-iPod-nano-Graphite-Generation/dp/B002L6HE9G/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_title_4

Well... there's always this. Still expensive as hell though. Might as well buy an ipod.

edit: Just saying. Careful. Links to iPod.

Looks like.

There are plenty from companies like FiiO, Astell&Kern, Onkyo and Sony. The price for a decent DAP ranges from $100 to $400, the crazy ones go far beyond that.

• FiiO X1 is good
  
• FiiO X3 is pretty good
  
• Astell Kern AK Jr. is where the crazy stuff begins.
  
• Onky DP-X1 is already pretty ridiculous
  
• Astell & Kern AK 380 is where the fun ends.
  
  If you are just looking for a quick & dirty solution: FiiO M3

I pretty much restrict my use to Maximum Fun podcasts at the moment, I use an MP3 player that is not an Ipod to listen to stuff. Not too sure how to add podcasts other than raw mp3 files to my player.

[FiiO X1 High Resolution Digital Lossless Media Player] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016Q8CXHC/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_3?pf_rd_p=1944687642&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00E9O6C96&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=JHDQAGK8QSHCY437N89P) is what I use.

I bought a squeezebox internet radio, and play a 30 min mp3 of ocean sounds (atlantic ocean: florida, ocean moods by natural wonders). It can play all your mp3s, streaming them wirelessly from your server, and can also play internet radio like BBC, etc.

The ocean sound is saved as one of the preset buttons.

This does sound like the most aquatic experience but I'd throw these in as the "ultimate aquatic experience". It's an underwater Mp3 player. Listening to music while swimming is like dancing through zero gravity and floating still while getting lost in a song is like being hugged by the music.

I've used both waterproof (IPX7) Dacom bluetooth earbuds and waterproof (IPX8) Tayogo mp3 player.

Bluetooth:

I've streamed podcasts, radio and music from my (poolside) mobile phone.
It works really well, until the antenna portion of the earbud is immersed in water, at which point the audio cuts out until that earbud rises back out of the water.

The earbud fit in my ear wasn't too bad, once I fitted the correct size rubber bud adapter, but would come out if I was going really really fast.

Additionally, the poolside bag containing my mobile device had to be in the middle of the length of the pool, to have sufficient range, but audio would start crapping-out at each end of the pool.

Given that the DACOM bluetooth earbuds have a black cable linking the two earbuds together, around the back of the head/neck - incorporating the antenna into this cable might have provided better reception "in-water".
But my tests showed that there was a single antenna in one bud only, so once that ear was underwater - the audio cut-out.

The DACOM eventually stopped powering-on after only 4-5 months of use, and I received no response from the online retailer requesting replacement - so I gave up as my time wasn't worth it.

Mp3 player:

This is a nice unit, in the shape of a headband that goes around the back of your head. The player "pops out" of the head band, and has it's own usb connector that goes straight into a USB port on your computer.
The player works fairly well, but the earbuds just fall out as soon as I start swimming, regardless of which rubber earbud adapter I use.

If swimming gently, the best audio quality seemed to occur once some water had found it's way into my ears, providing a warmer, fuller sound, obviously due to the water helping to conduct the sound waves to my ear drum. Out of the water, the sound was thinner/tinnier.

But the battery life is reasonable, and being 8GB, I can stash so many tunes and podcasts on there, that having a "live connection" isn't much of a problem for me.

If only the earbud fit were tighter for in-water use.

I have a finis neptune mp3 player for swimming. It doesn't use earbuds but rather pads that sit on the bones in front of your ears and are held by your goggle straps. The sound is interesting, it loses some frequencies and others are clear, either way much easier than buds in the water. It made distance swimming far more enjoyable for me

However it is only depth rated for 15ish ft. I don't see a reason why they couldn't design it for higher pressure, I think it's just a niche enough product already and the cost increase would make it not worth it.

This is the current version
FINIS Duo Underwater Bone Conduction MP3 Player https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0169RSNPG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_bcKIDbB66R8J5

FINIS Duo Underwater MP3 Player (Black/Acid Green) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0169RSNPG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_QNGZBbJG0P2QQ

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-NWE395-Walkman-Player-Black/dp/B01CCESGDO

i use the waterproof headphones from sony

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https://www.amazon.com/Sony-NWWS413BM-Sports-Wearable-Player/dp/B01CQMN0HY/

Something like this?

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https://www.amazon.com/Cowon-Plenue-Resolution-Music-Player/dp/B01A8NU5CG

Get that instead. cheaper, battery lasts over 100 hours on a charge and plays anything you can toss at it. Will play high impendence headphones and needs no pre amp. Uses micro sd cards so you can swap out music any time. Ipods other than the classic are more trouble than they are worth.

These are < $80. They don't connect to your phone, but they do have a built in 4GB hard drive which I actually like more. They are completely waterproof (I swim with them), and stay on extremely well.
Sony NWWS413BM 4GB Sports Wearable MP3 Player (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CQMN0HY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_gSfQzbVGQC2A4

I swim with the sony NWZ-S13 waterproof walkman, which also has bluetooth support so they aren't limited to use in the pool. Of course you cannot use bluetooth inside the pool.

If you dont care about bluetooth they have a cheaper line.

They work great as long as you take the time to choose the right earbud size for your ears. Also, never press the buttons underwater, but this is a non-issue.

It's definitely an interesting challenge! I don't have anything great that pops to mind immediately, but below are some concepts that may help trigger some ideas:

• How about a camera obscura combined with modern day technology? You could make one of these and make it so that the image projects onto your phone camera lens so you can take a picture of the projection. I think the tricky part will be to get your phone to register the available light, but it may be doable.
  
  
• Make a "hybridoscope" that combines a kaleidoscope with a periscope or some other reflecting or light bending device that already exists but hasn't been combined with another one yet.
  
• Go rogue and create an insect torture device that holds a magnifying glass lens and focusses sunlight into a cardboard death ray of doom.
  
• Get a strobe light and a mini mp3 player with some dance music on it, attach both to the inside of a cardboard box, poke some holes in the top... BAM, hamster disco!
  
  Good luck!

I found this for headphones for people with hearing impairments. If he likes popular music from the 50/60s I'd say most streaming services would have all the big artists. I'm sure theres a bunch of online radio stations that play that stuff too. Not sure how you'd set it up for Jack to be able to work it on his own though. Maybe buy some 50/60s compilation albums of his favourite artists on iTunes and put them on a simple to use mp3 device? Here's one that only has a few buttons, something similar to that.

Hi, I currently have the Shure SRH1440 Headphones

I am christmas shopping and looking to boost my auditory experience. I have found lossless music players like the Fiio X5 High Resolution Music Player. I have read mixed reviews on whether or not I would need an amp, or a DAC converter with my headphones. I have also read about using the VLC app on my iphone and purchasing a converter like this.

My budget is around $350. How can I best spend my money to supplement my headphones, and get the most bang for my buck? Also, I want something portable since I listen to most of my music on long car rides in the passenger seat, and already have a good set up for listening at home. Thanks!

when i bought DX50 a few years back it was like $240 shipped from China. don't seem to be in production anymore. i've seen them sell for about half that in head-fi.org for/sale forums and you can probably find someone who will ship to EU. otherwise i see iBasso has one called the DX80 now for $360 but i have no experience with that one.

edit: also found DX50 for sale at Amazon

edit: check out this forum to learn about other high end DAP

I listen to podcasts while swimming using these.

I like that there isn't anything in my ears and I can still hear what is going on around me.

Only $78 on Amazon. Not awful...

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-NWZ-W273BLK-Waterproof-Walkman-Sports/dp/B00BVUBS36

I occasionally use this mp3 player. It works pretty well, and I like the earphones that come with it. They sort of double as ear plugs. They're the kind of 'athletic' earphones that have a bit that curves around the back of your ear. Dunno how effective this is at holding them in place----I always wear them under my swim cap, which does a pretty good job of keeping everything where it is.

Coincidentally my brother's iPod died not too long ago and after a bit of research he bought this one 16gb was enough for him and had bluetooth capabilities for his speakers. No need for itunes and he said it's great.

I use an older version of these and I love them. Just switch the earbud caps if you're swimming or running in heavy rain. I have hyperhidrosis and I live in Thailand so I sweat like crazy and/or sometimes get caught in the monsoons, but they never fail me.

Ah okay, thanks for the recs! I won't be buying a new pair of headphones right away so hopefully I'll get to explore more before doing so.

If you care to humor me some more, any thoughts on hifi audio players such as the iBasso DX50?

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00J2OYPAG/ref=s9_cartx_gw_g107_i1_r?pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=desktop-6&pf_rd_r=ZA16Z6S90Z5A42WZ7KMP&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=1f86cdc4-1913-430b-9c05-d32f8d3b4fce&pf_rd_i=desktop

they work well enough underwater, need to watch out for the cables though, they can break.

Why don't you take a look at the Fiio X5 (2nd gen.) then?

It's cheaper than what I'm asking for and you have the option to return it if you don't like it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07Q9ZDFJQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1YN30KUVZUXCM&psc=1

I have a Sony wearable MP3 player for running/gym. It's waterproof and there's no cords to get caught on things and yank the earbuds out of your ears.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B01CQMN0HY/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1503172997&sr=1-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=walkman+mp3+sony&dpPl=1&dpID=41rqGWKiPEL&ref=plSrch

Here is the mobile version of your link

I bought a Cheap waterproof MP3 player last year. Its made me not hate the pool. Its a world of difference with some music or a podcast on the long distance swims.

If you think the Walkman has a good battery life..
https://www.amazon.com/Cowon-Plenue-Resolution-Music-Player/dp/B01A8NU5CG/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1519591728&sr=1-1&keywords=cowon+plenue+d

logitech squeezebox
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Squeezebox-Player-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B002LARRDK/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1416744227&sr=8-6&keywords=squeezebox

hardware internet radio. great speaker, large homebrew community. but discontinued by logitech. really cool to go from NPR in another city to BBC6 radio to indie 103 in LA to a podcast to sounds of the ocean to help me sleep in just a few button pushes

Love my Zune HD, Software automatically picks up from itunes. Has cool web browser, a couple of fun apps. But for cheap good player the Sansa Rocks out well and is cheap, I paid $28.00. http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Sansa-Clip-Player-Black/dp/B002MAPSQM/ref=sr_1_22?s=mp3&ie=UTF8&qid=1279398881&sr=1-22

It's just hard to imagine unless you are talking FLAC files from CD rips and stuff. Like 26GB means >3000 songs you regularly listen too, which is like >225 albums.

As for suggested ones, probably something like this Sony (expandable up to 192GB) or a FiiO.

I really was just turned sideways by that Apple comment as it doesn't make sense. A Mastered for iTunes AAC will be closer to the studio recording than an MP3 from Google's Playstore or from Amazon.

My opinion is that in Spotify doesn't like it they are perfectly free to create their own hardware.

Having said that I am sure Spotify will win, because the EU has been absolutely retarded these last seven years.