Das keyboards get some flak for being overpriced, but at $60 this is a pretty good deal. Now that they have apparently sold out, see below for some alternatives.

EDIT: if you search for Das on /r/mechanicalkeyboards you'll find lots of people talking about how Das keyboards have declined in quality recently and some controversy about the software for one of their new models (not this KB) being Windows only. The keycaps Das uses are also said to be low quality. These issues aside, I personally think this is a good deal. If you are in the market for a full size mechanical keyboard, it's hard to find a better keyboard for the price. Some alternatives that are better but more expensive:

• $80: iKBC CD108 w/ MX Clear Switches
  
• $90 for full-size, $80 for tenkeyless: Cooler Master MasterKeys S
  
• $40, but 60% layout not full-sized: Magicforce68
  
  EDIT 2: as /u/SolixTanaka pointed out below, the Magicforce keyboards have questionable quality control. It's probably not fair to say they are better than Das keyboards. Some users love them and have no problems, others find their board crapping out after a few months (or sooner). Buyer beware. I like them because they are a cheap way to try out a 60% layout if that's something that interests you but you're unsure if you'll like it.

Here is the page for the NA timecard.

Edit: Thanks mods for fixing the thread!

As for the Timecards, they seem to be going out of stock only temporarily as they restock their supply of codes from SE. They've come and gone about three times now so just be patient and check back in 30 minutes to an hour. The promotion info returns to the timecard page as well when it's in stock so there's nothing really going on besides running out of codes temporarily.

Good luck!

$40 with this deal was well, for me on PC.

How to contact an Amazon rep & have the additional Prime 20% off applied to your purchase.
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I was able to speak with a rep via Amazon Chat & have the additional Prime 20% applied to my purchase bringing the game before tax down to ~$40. Boxed Copy PC Overwatch Origins Edition.

While I & many others were successful on our first attempt still other people required multiple rep chats some even going as far as calling support.


How to contact an Amazon rep via chat: Visit this link & select these options, at the bottom on the right click "chat".

My chat transcript in image & text:

> Initial Question: The Prime pricing on Overwatch - Origins (http://www.amazon.com/Overwatch-Origins-PC/dp/B017L187YG) is incorrect & my purchase appears to be overcharged. The list price is $48.99, the Prime price should be $39.20, but is instead listed at $47.99.
>
> 09:50 PM PDT Rishi(Amazon): Hello, my name is Rishi. I'm here to help you today.

> 09:50 PM PDT Me: Hello.

> 09:51 PM PDT Me: There is an issue with my recent pre purchase of Overwatch Origins Edition. The 20% prime pre purchase discount didn't appear to go through.

> 09:52 PM PDT Rishi: I have checked details for you found this promo will apply once your order will be shipped out.
> You will get discount of 20% once your order will ships out.
> I can assure you that.

> 09:53 PM PDT Me: What will be my final price for the item?

> 09:53 PM PDT Rishi: You will get the refund of $9.60

> 09:54 PM PDT Me: So my payment method will see a charge item then a refund item for $9.60?

> 09:54 PM PDT Rishi: Yes.

> 09:55 PM PDT Rishi: I can assure you that you will receive refund of $9.60 for once your order will ships out.
> I have added note on your account.

> 09:55 PM PDT Me: Can you see why it is the 20% discount wasn't able to be applied at checkout?

> 09:57 PM PDT Rishi: I'm rally sorry for this it seems there is system glitch I will definitely share your feed back to our technical team .

> 09:58 PM PDT Me: Okay, you have been very helpful & informative. Thank you & enjoy your day!

> 09:58 PM PDT Rishi: You are most welcome.

> 09:59 PM PDT Rishi: Is there anything else I can do for you today?

> 09:59 PM PDT Me: Can I receive a transcript of this chat for my records?

> 09:59 PM PDT Rishi: Sure.

> 10:00 PM PDT Rishi: After you click on end chat you will see the option of save this chat transcript.
> I will also email you.
> Is there anything else I can do for you today?

> 10:00 PM PDT Me: No, that is all. Thank you again!

> 10:01 PM PDT Rishi: You are most welcome.

> Thank you for contacting Amazon. Please click on the "End Chat" to close this window.

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EDIT: And some other users regarding the Collectors Edition:

Someone in this thread mentioned they paid $75 for the CE after talking with a rep, so yes.

I'll scan through again & see if I can find them.

Here's is one conversation re: the CE, seems some were not as successful with support.

Here's one user who was successful:
> i preordered the CE back in april and when the price dropped yesterday my order was automatically adjusted to 94.99. i had to bug support to get them to apply my 20% prime discount though, bringing it to 75.99 + tax.


And another here:

> I did something similar. My CE shipped before the price drop so I had to bug Amazon customer service today to give me the CE for $95 minus the 20% for Prime discount. The customer service rep did not seem all that thrilled about giving me the $120 CE for $75.
>

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y2GDXMC/

I started with just a few things and then listed everything I see... sorry for the spam
(these are all things I have, feel free to ask any Q's)


- Mini Fridge - https://www.amazon.com/Danby-DAR026A1BDD-3-Designer-Refrigerator-2-6-Cubic/dp/B00MO6V96W/ref=sr_1_8?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1519347546&sr=1-8&keywords=mini+fridge


- Cup - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MUBR8UH/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1


- Air Cleaner - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BI4UQK0/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1


- Good Chair Mat - https://www.amazon.com/Black-Chair-Mat-Rectanglular-ABS-RC-4655/dp/B00D83MURM/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_229_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=CMJS2EM6STF7XCCJZGWZ&dpID=51%252BWDnIRG0L&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=detail


- Big Boy Ergo Chair - https://www.ergoexperts.com/collections/ergonomic-chairs/products/office-master-iu79hd-24-7-intensive-use-heavy-duty-high-back-ergonomic-task-chair


- Camera Mount - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CMLX1O2/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1


- Space Heater - https://www.amazon.com/Lasko-Ceramic-Heater-Remote-Control/dp/B00PYDGN18/ref=sr_1_17?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1519348189&sr=1-17&keywords=lasko+space+heater


- LED Lights - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LX9Z3LH/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1


- Foot Rest - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EN9W3UY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1


- Wrist Rest - https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=node%3D510182&field-keywords=lasko+space+heater&rh=n%3A1055398%2Cn%3A3206324011%2Cn%3A9425950011%2Cn%3A510182%2Ck%3Alasko+space+heater


- Underdesk Headphone hanger - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00P31BMHG/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1


- Trash Can - https://www.amazon.com/Rubbermaid-Commercial-295700GY-Wastebasket-Rectangular/dp/B079WPRXXS/ref=sr_1_26?ie=UTF8&qid=1519348333&sr=8-26&keywords=trash+can


- Cat Bed - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DJRCQBW/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1


- Keyboard - https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2164


- Keycaps - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/PBT-Backlit-Keycaps-109-Keyset-Top-Printed-Cherry-MX-Key-Caps-For-Tenkeyless-87-104-108/32842167507.html?src=google&albslr=220105582&isdl=y&aff_short_key=UneMJZVf&source=%7Bifdyn:dyn%7D%7Bifpla:pla%7D%7Bifdbm:DBM&albch=DID%7D&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=708-803-3821&isdl=y&albcp=653478879&albag=34653160498&slnk=&trgt=75384829977&plac=&crea=en32842167507&netw=g&device=c&mtctp=&gclid=CjwKCAiA8bnUBRA-EiwAc0hZk62T3uqIKPVAUNx-ATVUQIzI8kscvB4UdNBR5dMpZ46l1gp9aoD38BoCNXQQAvD_BwE


- Mouse - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JPOLLTK/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1


- Mouse Mat - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0745N6CMD/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1


- Headphones - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007R99S14/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
& https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008POFOHM/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1


- Dac/Amp - https://www.jdslabs.com/products/48/objective2-odac-combo-revb/


- Speakers - https://emotiva.com/products/airmotiv-6s


- Subwoofer - http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/m8.html


- Mic - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KCN83VI/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1


- Mic Interface - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0012MIVUQ/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1


- Boom Arm - https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1194415-REG/o_c_white_ulp_mb_proboom_ultima_lp_adjustable.html?sts=pi


- Web Cam Alternative - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G9EYN26/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1


- Lens - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JDGB94S/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1


- PC Cam Interface - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N4SM7H6/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1


- Lights Boxes - https://www.amazon.com/LimoStudio-Digital-Photography-Fluorescent-AGG883/dp/B0091HO1FS/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1519348726&sr=1-10&keywords=16%22+x+24%22++soft+box


- Light Box Stands & Clamp - https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1327281-REG/ultimate_support_17637_jamstands_fixed_length_boom.html
& https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0010CYHW4/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1


- Light Bulbs - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IB8O2VU/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

this mouse for example was made with the help of esports players, yet imo it looks pretty "non gamey"

This is the lowest I've seen origins edition go. It'd be awesome to see amazon price match.

Edit: you can help by reporting "tell us about a lower price" in the right side of the "Product Information" section of the Amazon page.

Gmmk full https://www.pcgamingrace.com/products/gmmk-full-customized

Gmmk tkl https://www.pcgamingrace.com/products/gmmk-tkl-tenkeyless-customized

, gk64,https://kbdfans.cn/products/gk64-mechanical-keyboard-64key

gk84, https://kprepublic.com/products/gk64-gk84-mechanical-keyboard-64-key-84-key-dye-sub-keycaps-wooden-custom-light-rgb-cherry-profile-keycap-starry-night-dhl

igk68, http://www.epathbuy.com/product-category/igk68-hot-swap-keyboard/

team wolf zhuque https://www.amazon.com/Team-Wolf-Swappable-Mechanical-Keyboard-Blue/dp/B01AFBJQA8

Kananic 82
http://s.aliexpress.com/RFNZjeQf?fromSns=Copy to clipboard

Thanks for the post. I'm going to grab it to compare it to some other more expensive keyboards.

Also, I'm almost positive this is just the aukey branded version of the reddragon kumara keyboard. I'm assuming they all come from the same factory.

Kumara for reference

The only difference I can see is the keys on the kumara keyboard appear to be more sunken in, if that makes any sense.

This is the one right here

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL/ref=sr_1_3?crid=30TMXSL6ODA23&keywords=thrustmaster&qid=1563234313&s=gateway&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sprefix=thrustmaster%2Caps%2C157&sr=8-3

Agreed, ED and Onward are the only VR games I've passed 100 hours in. For those looking for a HOTAS and don't want to break the bank, I bought this one 2.5 years ago for $50... it's on prime for $39 now so there's no excuse! It's plug and play for most HOTAS supported games, like ED, as it's a popular one. The Throttle and Joystick do detatch, though there's a cord between them. This might convince you to upgrade for a bigger HOTAS, but it's more than adequate for my occasional Elite Dangerous sessions.

Edit: there's an upgraded version for a few bucks more. Credit to /u/stringentthot

As many people have mentioned, Star Citizen is still an in-development title, and there are lots of bugs and will likely continue to be lots of bugs for quite a while.

That being said, there are lots of people who are OK with this and are able to enjoy themselves, some fall on the other end of the spectrum and get really frustrated so it's worth keeping in mind that there is a 14 day refund policy. If you or he decides you aren't satisfied with your purchase, you can submit for a refund at any time in that 14 day window.

If you're still with us and you want to go ahead and buy him something, here's four strong options for you to consider:

1) Buy the Mustang Alpha Starter Package for $45 - https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Packages/Mustang-Alpha-Starter-Pack

2) Buy the Mustang Alpha Starter Package for $45 - https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Packages/Mustang-Alpha-Starter-Pack

Then upgrade it to an Avenger Titan using this $20 CCU (Cross Chassis Upgrade is an item that you will find in your hangar on the website after purchase and can then apply it to the Mustang Alpha to convert it into an Avenger Titan) - https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Upgrades/Mustang-Alpha-To-Avenger-Titan-Upgrade

Most players in Star Citizen have owned at one point, or currently own an Avenger because it is incredibly versatile for its price allowing you to do both combat and hauling stuff while not being paper thin. It's also the one I'd recommend the most for him. He can always use the CCU system to upgrade his ship to something else later once he has a better idea of what he wants to do.

3) If he's likely to mainly do combat, then perhaps the Arrow would be a good choice $90 - https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Packages/Anvil-Arrow-Starter-Pack

It will be noticeably more combat capable than the Avenger Titan, but it doesn't have any cargo space. It is a very popular ship right now for combat pilots.

4) If you really want to splurge, then get the Cutlass Black Package $115 - https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Packages/Cutlass-Black

The Cutlass Black is larger than all the other mentioned ships and it's the first real offering that gives you decent multi-crew features. It has an interior you can walk around in with a couple beds (beds are used for logging off if you're out in space instead of at a station), It has a good sized cargo bay that's great for traders. It has a copilot seat which can be used by a second person to help manage shields etc..

It also comes with a turret for some extra firepower. It has plenty of teeth, and you can't really go wrong with it.

 

If he really ends up liking the game, he should look into picking up some flight hardware (Joysticks etc..). I'd recommend either the t16000m FCS HOTAS $130

Or the dual t16000m setup $115

You can also just buy a single t16000m joystick for around $60 and then buy a second one later. They can be flipped to lefty pretty easily, so don't feel like you need to buy two right away.

In terms of bang for buck, there is no contest compared to these in the budget arena. I personally fly with two sticks, some people prefer the stick plus throttle.

 

In closing, my personal advice would be to buy him the Mustang Alpha ($45) and the CCU to the Avenger Titan ($20), then tell him you'll contribute X dollars towards some flight hardware (Joystick/throttle etc) or further ship CCU's once he knows what he wants.

Best of luck on your decision making!

I have this keyboard. It's ok build quality and at $60 probably worth it if you want the 75% form factor. This layout is by far my favorite, very compact for desk space while maximizing productivity/convenience keys. Also I grew accustomed to the aligned f-key layout on laptops which not many keyboards have.

If you're tempted by this but $60 is too much, consider the backlit DREVO for $42. It seems to be roughly the same keyboard with some minor changes to the bottom row. The right alt/fn/ctrl are a single space which allows the spacebar to be a more typical size if you want a new keyset.

Best Cheap Mechanical Keyboards Under $50

1. Redragon K552 KUMARA LED Backlit Mechanical Keyboard
   
2. EagleTec KG011 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard
   
3. TOMOKO Water-resistant Mechanical Keyboard
   
4. Bluefinger Mechanical Gaming Keyboard
   
   Best Cheap Mechanical Keyboards Under $100
   
   
5. Logitech G710+ Mechanical Gaming Keyboard
   
6. Corsair Strafe Mechanical Gaming Keyboard
   
7. Rosewill (RK-9000V2 BR) Mechanical Gaming Keyboard
   
8. Havit HV-KB390L Mechanical Keyboard
   
9. Logitech G610 Orion Red Backlit Mechanical Keyboard
   
10. Corsair K63 Wireless Mechanical Gaming Keyboard
    
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    The link are(non referral) to Amazon.com

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B06Y2GDXMC

Looks like it's $27 if you get it without a backlight. I just bought one:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LXD7TP9

Link below to the fight pad I customized it myself!

Mayflash F300 Arcade Fight Stick Joystick for PS4 PS3 XBOX ONE XBOX 360 PC Switch NeoGeo mini https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019MFPLC0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_LzjBCbMXB9BN9

No need to apologize. I certainly haven't owned every board out there, so the best I can do is take a look at reviews to feature set with you.


So first, let's decide some things.
Do you want a backlight? If so, does it need to be RGB?


What size board do you prefer? I would suggest going no lower than tenkeyless if you're using it at all for some professional work, only because it could temporarily slow down your work rate because some keys will be in different positions or missing entirely. This may take getting used to. If you're up for that, that's cool too. Full size boards have a numberpad, some are larger with "macro" keys. There are variations with fewer keys, that maybe don't have arrow keys etc. and are slightly smaller. Then there's tenkeyless, which has no numbpad, and then smaller variations often with no function keys or arrow keys, with their functions require key combos.


We've got a price range, and we're going for mechanical, but I'm wondering how much branding and brand names matter to you. There are some boards out there with big logos, and they can be ugly as sin, doesn't affect functionality, but cosmetics are worth considering on something you look at daily. Next, do you need a brand that's "famous?" It may be hard to find a RAZER, Corsair, CoolerMaster, or other big names in the industry under $40, depending on your required feature set.

Finally, that brings us to switch type. There's a lot of brands of switch style, and if I had to guess, you're probably gonna have trouble finding Cherry MX, the most iconic switch type, in this range. That said, some of the "copy" switches are nearly identical and have pretty solid build quality, differences only noticeable by the most sensitive of typists. So here's a quick break down of the most popular switch types:

Blue: Tactile Bump during actuation, can feel it and hear it(loudest switch, clicks on bump, clacks when the key "bottoms out" or is pressed all the way down)

Brown: Very light tactile bump(I don't really feel it if I've just been typing on my blue or Razer green switch board), makes a sound when bottoming out. This is considered the happy medium, somewhat silent, can be made very quiet with an accessory, still had tactile feedback.

Red: Silent, linear switches. Not whisper silent, but much quieter, no noise or tactile bump when the keypress is actuated. I really don't think you'll be able to snag a new board with these.

Black: Silent, almost exactly like reds, but require more force to press down, they're not too popular as people complain they make their fingers tired. However, I see them a lot under budget boards.


The Blue, Brown and Reds are the most common. There are more switches out there, and some brands use different colors to associate the style, but the styles are largely the same.


I'm gonna link(not affiliate links) some boards, just to show the styles and backlighting options off, these are mostly a bit out of your price range, but this should give you a general idea of what they look like, and how much extra things like RGB cost:

Pretty standard tenkeylessboard: https://www.amazon.com/TOMOKO-Water-Resistant-Mechanical-Keyboard-Non-Conflicting/dp/B01DBJTZU2/ref=sr_1_31?ie=UTF8&qid=1520206833&sr=8-31&keywords=rgb+mechanical+keyboard


A compact board, I believe it's a 75% variation: https://www.amazon.com/Element-Mechanical-Keyboard-Waterproof-Anti-Ghosting/dp/B01FXF7HFC/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1520205858&sr=8-4&keywords=rgb+mechanical+keyboard


Tenkeyless RGB: https://www.amazon.com/Keyboard-Mechanical-Redragon-illuminated-ABS-Metal/dp/B019O9BLVY/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1520205858&sr=8-5&keywords=rgb+mechanical+keyboard


Fullsize board, the standard: https://www.amazon.com/Element-Mechanical-Programmable-Waterproof-Anti-Ghosting/dp/B073QPDZHQ/ref=sr_1_45?ie=UTF8&qid=1520206906&sr=8-45&keywords=rgb+mechanical+keyboard


Now, these are mostly "cheap" brands, in that they're not ultra famous like RAZER, or Corsair, etc. But, these are some of the more highly rated boards. Of course, you absolutely do not have to buy from amazon either, and these are mostly out of the range, so please get back to me on the style and backlighting options you'd like. I think one of these "knock off" brands will be your best bet, particularly if you want backlighting. Other users are of course free to offer advice too.


Once you tell me, generally, the size, and switch type we're after, we can try to find some boards that are on sale, not just the stuff I quickly found that was relatively cheap and well reviewed. Sometimes you can get something that seems a decent price, for even less if you watch and wait. So that might be worth considering too.

Please let me know your preferences, and I hope my explanations were somewhat clear.

So... below is my setup and WHY I personally do this. It's not ideal for everyone but it's what brings me the most joy flying in SC given my budget/space/style parameters. I don't play with dual sticks to be highly competitive or to see my name on the leaderboards. I do it because it makes flying that much more enjoyable for me.

I've been playing combat flight sims since the late 80's with one or two sticks and I've been a dual stick user in SC for a couple years now and love it. Most here will recommend two of the very capable and affordable Thrustmaster T16000M or the newer version, Thrustmaster VG T16000M FCS. Both of these sticks have molded bits on the handle that are removable and come with replacements so you can make them usable in the right or left hand.

While I use dual sticks, I don't use two T16000Ms and here's why:

Yes, the T16000M can be made to work right or left handed... and that's fantastic. That's why I use it in my LEFT hand. And while it's true the T16000M has LOTS of buttons on it, 12 of those buttons are on the base and only accessible in a dual stick setup by taking one hand off of one of your sticks. That's not ideal.

So, I went with a CH Fighterstick for my right hand. I've always loved CH products... they just feel a little more sturdy to me. But, the reason I did it was because ALL the buttons on the Fighterstick are ON THE STICK within reach of your fingers/thumb. There are triggers, buttons and hats that amount to 24 (I think) digital buttons (on/off) within reach of your hand that's already holding the stick.

The main argument for using dual sticks is to have six analog axis in your hands at all times (X, Y, twist for both sticks). The drawback though of my setup is that while the T16000M has three analog axis (X, Y, twist) on the stick, the CH Fighterstick only has two (X, Y... no twist). That means with just the sticks, I have five analog axis to work with. BUT, for me personally, that was a trade-off I was willing to make. Eventually, I have dreams of owning pedals to cover the missing axis.

Also, I fly with all fixed guns, no gimbals. That's how I remove the gimbal variable for myself. Again, this is a choice based on the way I like to play flight sims.

Here's my setup:

I've posted my HOSAS (Hands On Stick And Stick... otherwise known as Dual Sticks) setup details multiple times... so I apologize to those who keep seeing it. I post it here again not because I feel it is the best method/setup, but simply for you to consider and take bits from if you wish:

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> I know it's easier said than done, but if you have access to two sticks (friends peripherals) and a HOTAS setup, try both/all and see what feels good. You could also find a really cheap, used stick on Ebay or ShopGoodwill.com as a test. So long as the axis work, that's all you need to test the setup. Then, if you're happy with how it feels, invest in a proper stick. I just happened to have an old, barely working stick laying around that I used to test the dual stick setup. After 2 weeks, I was convinced it was right for me so I picked up a newer stick (still used though).
>
> Here's a graphic of my bindings
>
> If you're curious, here are the videos I have specifically about dual stick:
>
> My Dual Flightstick (aka HOSAS) Configuration
> Game Play: Squadron Battle with Dual Joystick Overlay
>
> Here's a breakdown of my setup:
>
> #Right Hand (main)
>
> CH Fighterstick
>
> ------------------------
>
> X-axis: roll
> Y-axis: pitch
> Trigger: fire weapon group 1
> Pinky button: fire weapon group 2
> Side 4-way hat switch: Vertical and Lateral strafe
> Top left 4-way hat switch:
> Left: switch countermeasure
> Right: launch countermeasure
> Down: missile lock
> Up: fire missle
> Top right 4-way hat switch:
> Up: target object in reticle
> Left: Cycle friendly targets
> Right: Cycle hostile targets
> Down: don't remember...
> 8-way hat: only use down right now to look behind
> Right side red index finger "mode" button: IFCS mode switch (SCM, PRE, CRU)
> Don't use top red button yet
>
>  
>
> #Left Hand (off hand)
>
> T16000M
>
> -------------------------------
>
> X-axis: yaw
> Y-axis:
> Front half of axis: throttle
> Back half of axis: backward strafe
> Twist: strafe lateral
> Trigger: boost
> Throttle lever: set and forget throttle
> Top Left button on stick: Push-to-talk for Mumble and what not
> Top Right button on stick: couple/decouple mode toggle
> Hat UP: zoom in
> Hat DOWN: zoom out
> Three of the left side base buttons are the landing keys
> Two of the left side base buttons are Q-drive system and Q-drive engage
> And Match Target Speed is the last base button on the left
> * I have nothing bound to the six buttons on the right side of the base, yet
>
>  
>
> My two requirements and goals when I set this up when AC first came out was:
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> 1. To have fine control over throttle on the Y-axis WITH reverse but to also be able to set the throttle using the throttle lever on the T16000M for longer flights without having to hold the T16000M forward to maintain velocity. For example, if I let go of the T16000M, my thrust will be 0. If I set the throttle lever to 75% and don't touch the Y-axis, my ship will maintain the 75% thrust/velocity. As soon as I touch the Y-axis, I again have fine control over thrust.
> 2. To be able to fly with only the main hand (CH Fighterstick) when fine throttle control was not necessary. I try to have all my main controls that I need on the Fighterstick with the extras on the t16000M. Combine that with some key VA commands and it works well in AC.
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> I think the greatest drawback my setup has is that vertical strafing is not intuitive or easy (since it is bound to a hat on the Fighterstick). But, the throttle was the the key part of my setup and I wanted it on the Y-axis of the T16000M. I do not have pedals or any other peripherals.

sauce

I just picked up the Qanba Drone fight stick. It’s cool for beginners. $60 but you can swap the stick and buttons when you want to upgrade. Takes some time getting used to it but once I got a button layout that worked for me, I prefer it to the DualShock.

That said, whatever is most comfortable to you is your best bet. The game’s default controls have a controller in mind so you’re set either way.

Tldr: Qanba Drone is a $60 beginner’s fightstick. Mod ready. Slight learning curve but I felt it was worth it. Do u tho.

Link:
Qanba Drone - PlayStation 4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01I0GEDEY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_.6rIAbW9GTPFN

You can make a great one under $100. I bought a Qanba one and replaced the stick and buttons with Sanwa parts.

Qanba Drone Joystick for PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 3 and PC (Fighting Stick) Officially Licensed Sony Product https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01I0GEDEY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_9VqRCbYR24NKK

I vote a T300 if you can find a decent used one.

Edit: Actually the T300RS GT is on sale right now on Amazon.

All Lightning Deals so they will only last as long as there's stock left for the sale.

TKL with no backlighting for $22.94 : https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LXD7TP9/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=AXZ7TDMJNMJSZ&psc=1

TKL with Red Backlighting for $25.49 : https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B016MAK38U/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=AXZ7TDMJNMJSZ&psc=1

TKL with Rainbow Backlighting for $29.74 : https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LZN7MLE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=AXZ7TDMJNMJSZ&psc=1

TKL with RGB Backlighting for $36.54 : https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B019O9BLVY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=AXZ7TDMJNMJSZ&psc=1

Looks like its part of the Free Weekend they're doing, the same deal has showed up on Gamestop and Amazon at the same time. I would be surprised if it wasn't lowered on Battle.net as well when the Free Weekend starts later this morning

That same keyboard is $50 on Amazon, or you can get an even cheaper MechanicalEagle one that's also hot-swappable (though I'm pretty sure these ones only work with Outemu switches)

Just buy the keyboard on Amazon, unless you're fine waiting several months just to save $10. Don't ever use Massdrop to get anything that can be bought somewhere else, especially keyboards. I only recommend Massdrop for keycap sets that you can't get elsewhere. That listed MSRP is absolute bullshit.

The wheel you listed is arguably less than entry-level, as it doesn’t have force feedback and that’s arguably one of the most important parts of any serious sim racing wheel.

Since your budget’s $150 i’d suggest the Thrustmaster T150, decent, fairly small but it’s got FFB and is a solid jumping in point to the sim racing hobby/market.

Here are a few popular keyboards with hot-swappable switches:

GMMK

Team Wolf ZhuQue

E-Element Z-77 and Z-88

Here is the US Amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y2GDXMC
It's not available for preorder yet, but you can ask to be notified. It lists release date as July 4th, even if they don't do preorders, I'd still probably get it from them sooner than via DR.

If you don't mind Gateron instead of Cherry (they're arguably nicer anyway) Magicforce makes a Gateron Brown full size board for $70 https://smile.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HHTFSIK?sa-no-redirect=1

Non-referral link here.

Thrust master T1600M https://www.amazon.com/ThrustMaster-2960773-Thrustmaster-T16000M-FCS/dp/B01MQEDEEW/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1O0SQ58FWIO3J&keywords=thrustmaster+t16000m&qid=1564523941&s=gateway&sprefix=Thrust%2Caps%2C164&sr=8-4 its what I use for my flying sims & aviation games.

$40 on amazon

I just use prepaid cards for subs. That way I never have a billing issue for that.

I know Amazon has a 60 day card, I'm sure you can also find one at a convenience store or something where they sell prepaid cards for digital stuff if you're in the US. I know the Wal-Mart near me has them.

I think the most budget friendly option would be the Rosewill RK9000v2. No frills, just a decent quality board that'll last. Or if any of them want backlit boards, then maybe a MasterKeys Pro L White will work.

If you want to treat em then maybe something like the FC900R, with the sound dampening mat in the case and PBT keycaps, it's a much higher quality board.

As for O rings I'd just buy the cheapest thing off Aliexpress.

If you can afford it I wholly recommend the new Hotas ThrustMaster. Plug and play for ps4. small driver download for pc.

The T.Flight Hotas 4 (PS4/PC version) is $70 on Amazon. I'd expect the Hotas One to be a similar price

It's on Amazon as the Magicforce 108.

I love the Magicforce 68, but I'm just not a fan of the way the plastic bottom wraps up to form a lip on this full-size brother. They should've kept the floating keycap style.

Qanba Drone if you're on PS4 and do not care about artwork swapping. Venom Arcade Stick if you're on PS4 and want artwork swapping. Mayflash F300 if you're on Xbox or Switch and do not care about artwork swapping. Mayflash F500 if you're on Xbox or Switch and want artwork swapping. Qanba Carbon if you're PC-only and care about artwork swapping.

All of these sticks can be easily modified with higher quality levers or buttons at a later date. Personally, I went with the Venom Arcade Stick, upgraded it with Sanwa parts, used it for a few years and then switched to a full custom.

A few decent options on Amazon right now:

AUKEY KM-G9 - $26.99

Redragon K552-N - $26.99

Redragon K552 Red LED - $29.99

TECWARE Phantom - $39.99

E-Element Z-77 RGB - $39.99

Magicforce 68 can be had for around $40. Redragon K551/K552 are decent larger options, for as low as $27 with no backlighting.

Collectors was available for PC since day one.

http://smile.amazon.com/Overwatch-Origins-PC/dp/B017L187YG/ref=sr_1_1_twi_gam_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1452627093&sr=1-1

It sounds like you are looking for a fightstick.

The Team Wolf Zhuque is probably the least expensive option at just under $50.

Yes it is.
Amazon Link

Usually when a game offers early access with pre-orders, I pre-order on Amazon and then cancel as soon as I get the beta key. That way you get to try it out but you're not locked in to buying it.

Look for "Team Wolf" or Zhuque. Like this one. Full size board has RGB, TKL has different color LED for different rows, I believe. Also available from China through AliExpress (easy) or TaoBao (more complicated).

Velocifire VM-01, Drevo Gramr, Nixeus Moda for browns. If you have a bit more money, though, I would go for a board from cooler master. I have one (with browns) and it's functional as well as RGB backlit without looking too "gamery". Hope this helps!

You should try a 75% since that layout has become pretty standard in recent years.

Budget:

• Drevo Gramr
  
  Mid-range:
  
  
• Keycool 84
  
• MK84
  
• Drevo Excalibur
  
  High end (custom):
  
  
• KBD75 (pretty easy to find right now since a huge GB just shipped)
  
• RS84
  
• AMJ84 (hard to find here in the US but was run primarily on TaoBao)
  
• TriC 84
  
• B.Mini
  
• C.mini (aka b.fake mini or ps2avrgb 75%)
  
• GON MX Mini
  
  Super high end:
  
  
• TX75
  
• Duck Octagon V1 and V2
  
  
  --
  
  Here's a 75% that I'm currently using: http://imgur.com/a/DMMql

I just got a 60 day time card off amazon and it did count towards this Promo! https://amzn.com/B00O15486W this is the link to the time card I got.
It was a digital code for the 60 days. So get your game time for FFXIV and the promo!

Never Sharkoon. The Logitech is good, though.

G402 seems to be just a couple dollars over $35, which would be even better:
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Hyperion-Gaming-Fusion-910-004069/dp/B00LZVNWIA/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1484600942&sr=8-7&keywords=logitech+g100

Can also get G303 (better version of the G302) for $40ish:
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Daedalus-Performance-Gaming-910-004380/dp/B00TKFD51M/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1484601088&sr=1-1&keywords=logitech+g303

G100s
revel
deathadder essential the same thing as the chroma but no rgb.
G303
G403 A bit outside your budget but its worth it.
G102 same thing as
G203
whatever you do, don't buy the $15 back alley abortion of a mouse.

Are you on PC? Is the Thrustmaster T150 (PC and PS4) or Thrustmaster TMX (PC and Xbox one) too expensive? This is as budget as I'd go if you want brand new. The downside is you only get two pedals but do have paddle shifters. If this is too pricy try searching craigslist around your area for any used Logitech Driving Force GT's (two pedals, no h-shifter, but has a sequential shifter), or a Logitech g27 (three pedals, comes with h-shifter).

If you do want three pedals and an h-shifter, then I think the Logitech g29 (PC and PS4) or Logitech g920 (PC and Xbox one) are the current best value as far as brand new. With craigslist you can possibly find better deals locally, but it can be a crapshoot.

Options I recommend:

• The Thrustmaster T-flight HOTAS X - This is entry level HOTAS that goes for $40-50 USD. 12 buttons, an 8-way hat, twist stick, and rudder rocker. This tends to have the "a little short of controls" problem, as Elite has lots of stuff to bind, so you'll likely want to either use the keyboard for more buttons or set up a series of modifiers like this to fit everything on it. The HOTAS One and HOTAS 4 (for the Xbox and PS4, respectively, though both are also PC compatible) are slightly upgraded versions of this stick, with the same exterior, but improved internals tightening the deadzone and making them a bit more precise. They're usually more expensive than the X, but you might catch them on sale for cheaper occasionally. Note that this unit only uses 1 USB port, as the throttle and stick are connected to each other via a cable (about 20" long). This is something to keep in mind if you plan on mounting them to chair arms or something. I personally used this unit previously. It's a perfectly good setup, though I personally found the lack of buttons to be annoying after awhile. Note that the throttle has a detent at 50%, making it nicely suited to full range operation, with the detent separating forward and reverse.
  
• The Thrustmaster Stick X. This unit is basically the above, but without the throttle and the buttons transferred to the stick base along with a throttle slider. Rings in at a little cheaper.
  
• The Thrustmaster T16000M. This is a refreshed version of the classic T16000M, with minor exterior changes (reshaped hat, reshaped trigger, reshaped throttle, and tactile indicators on the base buttons). It's notable for being one of the rare ambidextrous sticks (you just swap out a couple parts to switch it) Unlike the X (which uses potentiometers), this unit uses contactless hall effect sensors, giving it very smooth motion with excellent precision. 16 buttons, an 8-way hat, twist stick and throttle slider. More buttons available than the X. The stick by itself rings in at about the same price as the HOTAS X.
  
  Moving up, there's the Thrustmaster T16000M FCS HOTAS. This is the above T16000M stick along with Thrustmaster's new TWCS throttle. Totalling them up, you get 19 buttons, two 8-way hats, two 4-way hats, a two-way switch, an analog stick, throttle slider, rudder rocker, and an analog dial, which is plenty of room for all the stuff you need (note that the throttle has no detent, so you'll probably want to run it forward only with a button assigned to reverse). This is what I personally use and I quite like it. Note that all the components of this set are available separately and can function independently (each needs its own USB port, so you might want to buy a hub with these). So you could buy the stick today and the throttle next month. Or buy the throttle and some other stick or buy two sticks, or whatever. There's also a set of pedals available if that's your jam.
  
  As for the money making, there are basically 3 options.
  
  
• Core mining for void opals - See CMDR Madprophet's mining guide and/or Yekbot's visual guide to core mining for information on this.
  
• Hotspot laser mining for painite or low temperature diamonds - See this video for information on that. Method is identical for both, only difference is what location you go to.
  
• Robigo passenger missions - See this video for information on that.

well, here's the page if you wanna keep it bookmarked

https://www.amazon.com/HTC-Vive-Deluxe-Audio-Strap/dp/B06Y2GDXMC/

You can buy one from Amazon, the Microsoft Store, Newegg, etc.

https://www.amazon.com/HTC-Vive-Deluxe-Audio-Strap/dp/B06Y2GDXMC/

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/d/htc-vive-deluxe-audio-strap/8wz5cwh91s0q

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826918014

Rumor has it Amazon should be going live soon. Same with the HTC store.

Amazon 1 (Sometimes the offer-listing page updates before the product page.)

Amazon 2

HTC Store

What is in this picture?

Topre Realforce RGB bought from Amazon Prime.

EnjoyPBT white caps w/ black English and red Hangul lettering bought from AliExpress.

Colored PBT modifier keys from Amazon Prime.

Logitech G PRO mouse bought from Amazon Prime.

Steelseries QCK+ mousepad from Steelseries.

ASUS VG248QE 144hz monitor from Amazon Prime.

For $100 I’d say the Qanba Drone

https://www.amazon.ca/Qanba-Controller-Fight-Stick-Drone/dp/B01I0GEDEY/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?keywords=drone+qanba&qid=1557242117&s=gateway&sr=8-2

Haven’t heard anything bad about it and apparently it’s easy to mod as well!

Logitech G29 - good value for money, tried and tested tech but it is a bit old being gear driven and can be a bit ratchety compared to a belt driven wheel if you care about these minor things. Pedals included are good especially at the G29 price point. Basically you can't go wrong here.

Thrustmaster T300 with standard pedals

T300RS with T3PA pedals - A bit more expensive than the logitech G29 and Thrustmaster have their fair share of horror stories regarding product defects but over all it's a solid wheel base for the majority. The T300 wheel base is a good wheel of choice for sim racing as It's belt driven so the steering is somewhat smoother and you have the modular steering rim option, just make sure to get a T300 package that comes with the T3PA or T3PA pro pedals. There's also the T150 which is a great starter wheel if you want a cheaper option than the T300 but you won't be able to take advantage of Thrustmasters modular wheel system in future and again, the standard pedals included aren't great.

Fanatec CSL Elite - Not wanting to leave the most expensive "starter" wheel base option out... The Fanatec CSL Elite wheel base for the PS4 will come close to blowing your budget of $500 and doesn't include pedals but it's another option on the table if you are interested in splashing the cash :).

I recommend to check ebay and any other buy/sell websites that you know if you're happy to buy used in case anyone who bought a nice sim rig or wheel and didn't like sim racing as much as they thought and are selling good kit for cheap. Happens more than you'd think!

Hopefully this helps somewhat and you can stay below that $500 mark.

It's on sale on amazon right now for $200

www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=thrustmaster&qid=1562596778&s=gateway&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sr=8-3

Entirely depends on your budget - but at the very least something with Force Feedback, like the Logitech g29 with shifter - that's a very common setup. $200-450 is the figure you'd be looking at - depending on if what you want is on sale. A bit cheaper if you don't want a shifter and want to use the paddle shifters behind the wheels.

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G29-Driving-Shifter-Bundle/dp/B016JBE8LU $299

I chose one a little higher priced, the Thrustmaster T300RS GT edition (3 pedal setup not the cheaper 2 pedal one without the clutch) as well as the TH8A shifter. I got the wheel on sale, full price on shifter. https://i.imgur.com/Y8Gg5oO.jpg

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL?th=1 $388 + https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-PC-PS3-PS4-Xbox-One/dp/B005L0Z2BQ $149


These wheels are much more than toys. You can feel the wheels on the road, traction loss, how much torque the cars have, if you slam into a wall the wheels can damn near rip your hands off (you can change the % of feedback to lower it). It makes the experience in VR feel super real. I'd say a wheel carries as much importance in VR racing as the headset does.

The craziest feeling I've gotten so far as just sitting at the start of a race idling in a '66 Mustang. The entire hood of this car is shaking back and forth like Dom's muscle cars in Fast and the Furious.....and the WHEEL is shaking left and right with the car exactly how you would expect something with that much power to. That thing was like 100% torque and it felt amazing.

Even if it takes some saving, I highly recommend one of them - although I would definitely wait until Black Friday to get $100 ish off of either one you choose. The sale prices for these are quite tolerable when they occur.

A stand for the wheel is much nicer than a table for mounting, but they can be pricey as well. From $100 and up. My Apiga AP2 stand was $280 but worth every penny to not have a bar in between your legs. Only $240 now and supports most wheels. https://www.amazon.com/APIGA-Foldable-Racing-Simulator-gearshift-ALL/dp/B00XBPYUIY

They made the Xornet, but I never managed to get one.

I've been keeping my eyes on a cheap Redragon mouse. They have one that looks "similar-ish" in shape to that of the Spawn... I really prefer a ring finger rest area.

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Mammoth-Programmable-Profiles-Switches/dp/B00GU4F4OM

This article is pretty recent and does a good job explaining a lot of the technical side of mechanical keyboards.

I'm not as knowledgeable and so can't talk about the nitty-gritty like the article does, but having used one since the summer (this one though I bought it for $80), I can say I definitely found them to be worth the price.

It's a bit of a weird start to get used to them, and the first thing I noticed was that they required a bit more intentionality than normal keyboards (I felt like I was pushing down a lot more than before). However, what's nice about them is that even though it feels like you have to put in more effort initially, I realized I was doing a lot less "mushing" of keys and that I made typos way less frequently because I knew exactly what I was typing when I was pushing down keys.

Going from a normal keyboard to a mechanical keyboard was a gradual shift, but I definitely noticed the benefits slowly. Going back to a normal keyboard after getting used to a mechanical one was like night and day, however. During finals when I spend a lot more time in my school library, I noticed that I actually had such a hard time writing anything because the keyboards were just so flimsy! I got so used to the weight, the noise, and the feel of a mechanical keyboard that the rubber-dome ones felt like I was typing on mashed potatoes. I thought about bringing my keyboard to the library, but the noise would have bothered others so I just ended up doing a lot more work at home.

On that note, a lot of mechanical keyboards have "click-clack" noises, but quite a few don't, so you can pick out what types you want. That's the other thing that's very nice is that you can customize and find out what types of key switches fit best for you instead of just a "one-size-fits-all" of the normal ones. I personally found that I liked Brown switches because the noise was actually a positive thing for me (they help me tell when I've typed a character) and are really soothing for when I'm doing a lot of work. Others don't like any noise at all, and there's at least two types I can think of that fit that as well. Some like their keyboards to have more resistance and some don't like any at all, and there's a switch for each preference.

Anyways, that was kind of long-winded, but hopefully some of that helped. As someone who's always heard that I should get one since 2010 and finally made the purchase a few months ago, I really wished I bought one sooner because oh my god they just feel so much better than regular keyboards. I will literally never buy a normal keyboard in my life ever again!

Edit: Also customizing keycaps! This is a pic of my current keyboard, and the name of the keycaps are Taihao Sunset.

I recently bought a new ThrustMaster T150 at Amazon.com for $188.20 (US) (plus tax) to play on PC (it's also compatible with PS3 & PS4). I've played Project CARS & Assetto Corsa with it. It has paddle shifters (no clutch). For the price (compared to other options), I'm happy with the T150 so far. Better wheels cost more (new) than I want to spend.

I think the T150 might be the least expensive (new, not used) wheel that has force feedback. I haven't seen any bad reviews for it - the only "complaints" I've seen are just related to the fact that it's a budget wheel & so it doesn't have the deluxe features or feel that more expensive wheels have (but that's to be expected at the T150's price).

...At the moment, it looks like Amazon has the T150 available for $169.99 (US).

Logitech G29-about 300$, might be able to find it on sale somewhere. Pretty solid unit.

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Driving-Force-Racing-PlayStation/dp/B00Z0UWWYC

Thrustmaster T150-about 200$, entry level, you will probably want to upgrade the peddles later for another 100-150$.

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B014US02ZA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1491247791&sr=1-1&keywords=thrustmaster+t150

I have been looking at a wheel by Thrustmaster, Its called the T150, it has 1080 degrees of rotation and pretty nice force feedback from what i am hearing. I would give that a look. Only $196 on amazon. I would give this one a look. This will work for PC and PS3 and PS4 also. http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-PlayStation-4/dp/B014US02ZA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1451334141&sr=8-1&keywords=t150

Here's the only one that I know of that works with the PS4. Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas 4 Flight Stick for PS4 & PC https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015PJ68BK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_p2ozzb8XHV38Y
I have it and LOVE IT! It took a bit of time to customize the controls to my liking, but once I got used to it, I can't go back to a controller.

Hands On Throttle And Stick. (Had to look it ip myself a while ago). A joystick and throttle. Here is the one for PS4

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-playstation-4/dp/B015PJ68BK

(not sure if others besides this one will work on the system). Ordered one myself to maybe try it out. Might see how it works on the PS4 controller first though.

As far as I know, the only HOTAS with out-of-the-box support for PS4 is the Thrustmaster T.Flight HOTAS 4. I would love to see it supported, and would buy the game the instant it became available for that reason alone despite already owning it on Xbox.

Budget

• Velcofire TKL
  
• Qisan Magicforce TKL / Full Size Available
  
  Middle tier
  
  
• Cooler Master MasterKeys Series
  
• Logitech G-Pro TKL
  
  Premium
  
  
• WASD Code Series
  
• Duckies
  
  Owned boards from all of the series above. Highly recommend looking on your local Craigslist, Facebook Marketplace, or /r/hardwareswap for used keyboards. Can easily get them for half price from keyboard addicts such as myself who have too many ;)

Might I recommend [mayflash 300 arcade stick] (https://www.amazon.com/Mayflash-F300-Arcade-Fight-Joystick/dp/B019MFPLC0) for fighting games. 60 bucks and works on almost everything (with a caveat that it must be plugged into a wireless xbox one/ps4 controller to be used on those systems). No extra steps for PC or retropie, works right out of the box.

Hori Real Arcade Pro V Kai

Mayflash F500 or Mayflash F300 with MagicBoots

Wut...

Thank you for sharing, I cancelled my order. I guess the Team Wolf CIY board is still the cheapest hot-swappable option.

I didn't realize how much more difficulty hover mode adds to keyboard and mouse as opposed to a flight stick until I tried it recently. The Thrustmaster T16000M FCS is a good all purpose joystick at a decent cost, available on Amazon and elsewhere.

The Thrustmaster 16000M, either by itself, as a hotas, or as a hosas is regarded as a good entry level stick by many.

edit: best way to make credits in-game by far is mining, either surface mining for painite or core mining for void opals. Easily 100m/hr or more if you know what you're doing, and/or follow one of the many guides on youtube. I can't personally advise though as I've been actively avoiding it. I don't want to be rich so quick I have no idea what to do with it.

Thrustmaster T16000M FCS Joystick if you're REALLY pressed for space. Otherwise, I wouldn't hesitate to buy the Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS Controller, which includes the HOTAS half of the setup. I think it's easily the best setup for the money.

edit: fixed the first link.

Buy two Thrustmaster T16000 Joysticks, they go on sale on Amazon in 3 days for $59. I just ordered two. Cheers

Great budget sticks for dual-stick setup. Best price they've ever been on Amazon:
https://camelcamelcamel.com/Thrustmaster-T16000M-FCS-Joystick-Black/product/B01MQEDEEW

Cheap, or expensive, is relative. What budget do you have to work with? Basically, I would say in total for the rig, around $700-800 can get you something pretty decent, then you're looking for the actual console/PC and the games themselves as an additional price.

For a fairly cheap, but still best bang-for-buck rig, I would recommend:

• Any of the T300 + T3PA bundles, for example the T300 Ferrari Alcantara Edition - Great wheel, best entry level wheel by far. With decent pedals, optional brake mod included that, imo, improves the feel a lot. Clutch included.
  
  
• TH8A shifter - Fairly cheap, all things considered,
  
  
• Simetik K2 cockpit - Very sturdy and customizable for its price, and also doesn't have that annoying bar down the middle that basically inhibits you from heel-and-toe downshifting that most of the other cheap rigs have.
  
  All in all this comes down to $885 as of right now, if you want to save a little bit you could go for the original T300 GT Edition instead and it'll be $817.
  
  The Simetik K2 is by far the best rig you can get in that pricebracket, but if you must save some more either skip the shifter for now or get a Playseat Challenge, it isn't the sturdiest but again, I do not recommend getting a rig with the pole in between your legs, I would personally rather play at a desk and an office chair than that, as it, at least for me, makes it really hard to heel-and-toe, and I love racing old DTM and GT cars with manual gearboxes and couldn't do without that.

T300 with T3PA set included...
little bit of a wait I guess,
but seems like a good deal

Okay, sure.

Duo Set - https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-16000M-SPACE-SIM-DUO-STICK/dp/B076XKZML8

Single Stick- https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-2960773-T16000M-Joystick-Black/dp/B01MQEDEEW/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_63_t_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=V057ET75WNB4K45T8ZXJ

HTC Vive Deluxe Audio Strap https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y2GDXMC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_u6ZkDb2BY0EZ1

I can third this is great for the quest. Super easy to install: https://youtu.be/RmnPnS4NOYo

You'll need a ring of some sort and about 3 strips of Velcro. Makes audio sooo nice! 😃

This now gives you a good excuse to do the mod!

I wanted to share my opinion on my first Franken-Quest setup.

I used:

- Gorilla tape - had some laying around

- Vive Deluxe Audio Strap https://www.amazon.com/HTC-Vive-Deluxe-Audio-Strap-pc/dp/B06Y2GDXMC/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=deluxe+audio+strap&qid=1568603404&s=gateway&sr=8-1

- Anker Powercore 10000 battery https://www.anker.com/products/variant/PowerCore-10000/A1263011

- Anker PowerPort Elite charger https://www.anker.com/products/variant/powerport-elite-2/A2023111

- USB cable https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MZ8RA3A/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This setup has been AWESOME! It's kind of like wearing a VR helmet now. I first tried the Vive strap without the battery for counter weight. I thought, how could everyone say this is more comfortable and worth the $100?

Then I attached the battery and the weight was distributed MUCH better. That's the key to this setup, balancing the weight of that front heavy beast, while remaining comfortable for extended periods of play, like 8 hours, give or take. I haven't really kept accurate track of time, but I'm pretty confident this setup extends the playtime to around 8 hours, and comfortably.

I've found that the weight is now more evenly distributed along the top strap and is held in place by the, excellently designed, back piece that very comfortably cups the back of my head.

The headphones sound amazing IMO. BUT that's only when applying extra pressure against my ears. For my ears, the phones rest comfortably, but I would prefer more pressure for that true surround with bass. If anyone has any suggestions please share. And if I come up with something, I'll update the post.'

My favorite thing to do with the Quest is play outside during overcast days or towards the evening when the sun is low. It feels so much more freeing IMO. I look forward to Mincraft once my GPU comes. That was always my favorite experience on the DK1 on. That is still the best VR game IMO. Although I wish there was still the Metacraft Server, I miss that place. I spent SO MUCH time in there building on my own land, going on quests, attending live broadcasts, the Nether quest... Such great memories.

That's what I'm most looking forward to again I think. A custom Minecraft VR server where we can all have our own land, help build cities, go on adventures, hang out... Anyone know what Wormslayers up to lately? Best Mod ever!

Other thoughts:

I'll probably switch the tape battery to Velcro for faster removal when wanting to use for charging something else, road trip or whatever.

I WISH THE UNITY QUEST DEVELOPMENT WORKFLOW WAS THE SAME AS THE RIFT OR VIVE! I got all setup and then learned that I would have to build each time in order to test out any changes :O That's insanity. It's unfortunate that Facebook/Oculus didn't release with this in place. I hope this is addressed sooner than later, because I'm all about freely jumping in and out Realtime instead of having to build every time I want to assess changes.

TLDR: This simple Quest setup gives the best VR experience I've had to date. (DK1, DK2, Gear VR, Rift, Quest, Vive, Odyssey) I would now recommend the Quest to anyone who wants an amazing !untethered! VR experience. But I would not recommend the Quest without this Mod. Mobile, high quality, comfortable and 8 hours of play for around $600 SWEET!

No problem! Haha I’ve spent quite a lot on VR games and accessories and these are the best games I’ve come across for the most part, probably missed a few.

If you don’t already have it, the deluxe audio strap
HTC Vive Deluxe Audio Strap https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y2GDXMC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_l9dNAb5VWXJVE
for the Vive is a necessity in my book, along with the leather face covers.
HTC Vive VR Memory Face Foam Replacement 6mm. Comfortable Pu Leather, Increased FOV. 2 pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0744B6PSQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_b-dNAb6MER44P

And if you’re really splurging and wanna attempt to battle VR sweat, I’ve found that these
http://www.vivenchill.com/ work surprisingly well.

R.I.P. your wallet.

there is no Gen 2 coming out any time soon. In fact, if you buy into Gen 1 now, you're getting: a %15 more lightweight vive that's easier to wear than the first release, as well as updated the new base station trackers (New on Left). The price on the vive is now $599 so you shouldn't feel too bad about buying into it now.

also with the money you save you can get a deluxe audio strap, a ViveNChill, and the silicone protective covers all for less than what I bought my vive for

PART TWO -- wrote this before seeing your VIVE arrives... basically tomorrow

-=- recommended accessories -=-
get the Deluxe Audio Strap. this is a MUST HAVE.

https://www.amazon.com/HTC-Vive-Deluxe-Audio-Strap-pc/dp/B06Y2GDXMC/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=htc+vive+deluxe+audio+strap&qid=1555922928&s=videogames&sr=1-1


i don't consider this an accessory...this is just absolutely CRUCIAL. installation took me ~15-20 minutes after watching a youtube video on how to install as the instructions that ship with it are ...lacking. there's a video of a german guy who shows you have to install it easily.... this strap adds not only great sounding, adjustable and comfortable headphones but (more importantly) will secure the HMD in a way that makes the default strap seem laughable. this deluxe strap allows more comfortable wear of the HMD, better cord management and eliminates the need for supplying your own audio (be it earbuds or headphones) while i ordered all of these "accessories" and received them before my VIVE, i decided to try the original / shipped strap before installing the "deluxe" and words can't describe the difference in fit, comfort, and how great the audio from the adjustable integrated earphones sound. the headphones are able to "snap" in an upright position when you are either removing /storing the HMD or just need to lift one up to hear something someone is trying to tell you...


-=-2nd suggestion for "accessories"-=-


probably most important second only to the deluxe audio strap.... get these tripods. you don't want to mount your lighthouses to your wall... with these tripods you are able to place your lighthouses without drilling/mounting. it is way worth the investment as the stands are very secure, adjustable and the lighthouses screw directly into them. no other parts needed, just these two stands... you'll realize that you might have to fine-tune/tweak the placement of the lighthouses slightly, and with these stands you are able to make adjustments (not only in placement but with the ball/swivel you are able to change the angle/pitch etc.) which you couldn't do if you mounted them.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B6FDKZ8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1


-=-honorable mention -- not necessary but recommended...-=-

when i purchased my vive i made sure to get a nice stand to set the HMD/controllers on... (...i went a bit overboard with other accessories and for brevity i'll only mention two more accessories that i think you should pick up) here's the HMD/controller stand i purchased for when either storing the vive or to set it on while taking breaks/cooling off... . it isn't an absolute necessity but it gives it a nice place to rest the HMD/controllers during breaks between play (you will sweat a lot even in a cold room, i know i'm out of shape but with titles like sairento, sprint vector, space pirate etcetc i take breaks just to let my face breathe and cool off.) this beats just setting the HMD on the ground or on a nearby table which could easily fall off.... your call, but -- again, protect your investment!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D1N5GP4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
-=-

"Skywin VR cable management system"
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0733NN7G8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


-- these are simply pullies that attach to your ceiling, allowing the cable to be out of the way of the ground... personal preference here but i find these very useful (especially with titles where i'm moving around a lot... sairento, gorn, QuiVR etc) ... protip: i went to walmart etc, purchased -several- packs of 3M "Command" large picture and frame hanging strips 16lb "large picture hanging strips" and have them all over my ceiling at different strategic places (depending on if i'm playing a title that requires my entire room i.e having to move my bed for the max. play area, or if i'm playing a title that requires only the smallest room setup or even for sitting) so using the 3M strips instead of the adhesive that comes with the pullies in the kit, i'm able to switch around the location of the pullies to suit each above situation...also, they remove without damaging your ceiling... if you have any questions on this just message me and i'd be happy to elaborate.
-=-
last accessory suggestion -- after watching videos of people punching holes in their walls etc. i decided to grab these protective frames which have saved my walls and possible harm to my controllers when demoing my vive to friends (even though when demoing i always have chaperone on "beginner", floor bounds on etc) it -never- fails that they will try to throw a grenade and hit my ceiling, swing a punch while playing Gorn and instead of my vive controller slamming into the wall, the cage around the circular top part absorbs the impact and deflects/redistributes the force from one point of contact to several. just throwing this out there, just in case you or someone you are showing it to will be inadvertently throwing your controller into your wall

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XDLMYMQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
-=-
final thoughts/closing: hmm. well, i think i said a LOT here and hope that your experience with installation is pleasant. again, let us all know how your first experience went and feel free to ask any questions.


welcome to the subreddit, welcome to the VIVE family and congrats on embarking on this journey together with us


--kyle

Here is the link. My prime gave me free same-day shipping and the order says it will arrive tonight!

Kiwi straps suck. Mamut Grips are best for big hands, but are good. AMVR are the best grips. I own both grips. I threw the kiwi things in the garbage.

The silicon interface depends on the person. It doesn't sandpaper your face like the stock one, and feels nice and cool for the first 5 minutes, but it feels awful once it gets sweaty - imagine a wet rubber wedgie on your face. I currently have the VRCover 'facial interface set' with the 'comfort' pad that is pleather. It isn't perfect, but its the best I have found.

I hear some good things about the Studioform strap, but it looks hot and one more thing to mess with. I went went with the Vive Deluxe Audio Strap, but that costs money. I ripped the headphones out of it, so I just have stock audio. I love the quick-adjust thing on the DAS like a hard hat - makes switching people so much faster and better.

Then there is the cable. I don't do the Oculus Link, but even so I have kids and I have heard of people ruining the cable charge port on the Quest yanking on it. I got one of those magnetic USB adapters to reduce the risk of port damage.

All of the goodies need to fit in a case, and I love this thing - its super sturdy and fits it all without being too big.

Then if you want to play in the dark you need a good IR light so it is dark for your wife to sleep but the Quest can still see.

Cooler Master Masterkeys S PBT. It's not fancy, but it has MX Browns and is only $80. If you want LEDs, there is also the Masterkeys Pro S.

Its no longer in production

The masterkeys pro s is the newer version of that board. It also comes in a a PBT version found here

RK9000V2 for $79.99

iKBC F108

MagicForce 108

And none of these are on sale, but the Rosewill is regularly under $70 and is my current work board.

If you want RGB Lighting: Coolermaster Masterkeys Pro L: I don't know what Switch type you want, but it comes in 3 switch flavors, Cherry Blue, Red, and Brown.

If you don't really care about lighting Ducky: Anything from Ducky is great for non RGB Lighting, and you can generally find them with Any switch that is Cherry. I didn't specify any keyboard in the search so you could figure out which one you might like best.

If you want cheap + good switches Magicforce 108 Gat Blues and Magicforce 108 Gat Browns will be your best bet. Gateron actually makes some really nice Cherry knock-off switches, and so I'd recommend Gateron Switch keyboards.

My personal preference in these boards would be the Masterkeys Pro L, it'l be the next board I upgrade to after I find the money to buy it. My Corsair Strafe works really nicely, but... it restricts me in future Keycap buying endeavours.

The RAP mini is okay but I wouldn't recommend it if you're going to upgrade. The buttons are small, not like all the other fightsticks. I would recommend the qanba drone instead : https://www.amazon.com/Qanba-Drone-PlayStation-4/dp/B01I0GEDEY

It's the cheapest fightstick that is worth it for the money, its only $10 more than the hori mini. The qanba drone also uses regular sized buttons so if you ever feel the need to commit to a larger stick in the future, the transition will be easier since it'll be same button sizes and stick size. The hori mini is small and it would be uncomfortable to play on your lap since you'd have to balance it on one knee, on top of that it doesn't have a lot of space for your wrists and hands. The drone is much more comfortable and has a slope for your wrists.

I highly recommend the Qanba Drone. I currently run 2 of them for a retro station at my local fighting game meetup. They go on sale often and I've had luck finding some on craigslist for $20 https://www.amazon.com/Qanba-Drone-PlayStation-4/dp/B01I0GEDEY

qanba drone, it’s like 60$ on amazon

Edit: Qanba Drone - PlayStation 4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01I0GEDEY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_nsEMAb1E742SB

here’s a link bud

Logitech g pro on amazon is on sale iirc

Yup, onsale for $49.99, normally $69.99

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If your'e really tight on money the one without LEDs is even cheaper

T300RS GT is right at that price and comes with 3 pedals.

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1488320317&sr=8-1&keywords=t300rs+gt

You can also look at T150 Pro or TMX Pro which are around $250 with the same pedals.

No sé si puedes comprar en tu lugar, hay "tarjetas" de subscripción en amazon y square enix online tienda.
http://www.amazon.com/Final-Fantasy-XIV-Online-Time/dp/B00O15486W

I bought a game time card from Amazon for $30, because I'm already playing and the game time card is equivalent to the monthly cost anyway. Following this rather straightforward logic, I just got 6 exclusive items for basically continuing my subscription. I don't see why you can't do the same. That said...here's the maid outfit, because I'm not using it.

> FUCU-BUYX-Y0VR-0VVN-G34R

I'm rather partial to the Rosewill RK-9000V2 for my no-nonsense work/gaming keyboards. ~$90 on amazon and prime eligible.

Ducky One

MK2016


Leopold FC900

Rosewill

Can anyone suggest a wheel combo? I've seen http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-PlayStation-4/dp/B014US02ZA?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_sfl_title_2&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER suggested a lot, anyone have it?

I'd say the T150 is your best bet. I'm not sure if you're in the US or how the price would change depending on region, but the T150 Pro is on sale for $220. Comes with the T3PA pedals instead of the regular two-pedal board, it's great if you plan on using the TH8A shifter with your wheel. If not, the regular T150 and a DIY brake mod should do the job just nicely.

Would this deal be available in Canada? I'm not seeing it on amazon.ca

Amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/Overwatch-Origins-PC/dp/B017L187YG?th=1

Sure! One board that I found when I first started digging into this hobby was Velocifire's TKL01, which let me know how brown switches felt. There's also the RedDragon Kumara which I see around a lot from people that want to try the hobby before they really deeply invest. There's also the Magicforce 68 which is one of the most recommended budget boards around here, especially for people that want to flirt with smaller layouts than TKL or full size.

Here ya go friend!

Gaming Keyboard Mechanical Keyboard K552 KUMARA by Redragon 87 Key LED RGB Backlit Mechanical Computer illuminated Keyboard with Blue Switches for PC Gaming Compact ABS-Metal Design https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019O9BLVY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_uC65AbFT0DR01

I could be wrong, but I think it's this keyboard.

Magicforce are usually regarded as pretty good for the price so that one is likely no exception.

That isn't a TKL board though, it's a "75%" keyboard. It's a good layout but it will be difficult to replace the keycaps in the future because it has a non-standard bottom row and shift key.

For $60 it's a great price. My only alternative is this Team Wolf Zhuque which is quite ugly but is a true TKL and has a hot-swap switch ability.

This is probably the cheapest you can get I think. https://www.amazon.com/Team-Wolf-Swappable-Mechanical-Keyboard-Blue/dp/B01AFBJQA8

https://www.amazon.com/Team-Wolf-Swappable-Mechanical-Keyboard-Blue/dp/B01AFBJQA8

for those who don't feel like waiting.

Keep in mind that the leds are not rgb. Each row has a fixed none changeable color.

We have some Keyboard enthusiasts (myself included) attend. People have since turned up with suitcases full of custom keyboards. The razer RGB ones have nothing on what we bring to the party ahaha

The one @ 2:27 is actually a Drevo Gramr 84 with the tops of the keys sanded down to the translucent plastic. It makes the keys feel HORRIBLE but it looks quite nice.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/DREVO-84-Key-Tenkeyless-Mechanical/dp/B01H6DHITE

Drevo Gramr with Outemu browns would probably be your best bet. Ugly font on doubleshot keycaps, white backlighting, nice housing (Keycool rebrand), KC84 layout (my favorite, but everyone has their preferences). Usually goes for around $37 with promocodes and as low as $35, though it's not on sale at the moment. If you don't mind the slightly longer shipping (from experience, usually about a week despite the much longer estimates on the site), you can get it on Aliexpress from a good seller for $37 now (or $34 with Aliexpress's coupon games, probably not worth playing). It's also available on eBay for $42 from a well-rated distributor (Dinsdale). If you're on the extreme cheap end of things, Dinsdale occasionally auctions things and you could potentially get the keyboard for ~$30.

If you're looking for a tactile switch then MX Brown isn't particularly tactile but you may like it, it's good to try a variety of different switches as well, so perhaps try getting a switch tester. However if you just want to get straight into getting a board, here a few options:

• the Magicforce68 has been a pretty good option for some time at £30 with Outemu Brown switches (Cherry MX clones)
  Link
  
  
• There's also the DREVO Gramr 84 with a similar layout, which I prefer to the Magicforce68 Link
  
  
• RK61 is another one available on Amazon, it's a 60% board so may take some getting used to coming from a full size board Link
  
  
• Aerocool TK50 is a full size board with MX brown clones Link
  
  It might also be a good idea trying to get a board with hotswappable switches, so that you can buy new switches in the future to swap in. There are also some good tactile vintage boards you can get, however prices for these may vary - Chyrosran22 on YouTube has a lot of videos about some really good vintage boards and does many overviews of different switches.
  
  Hope you're able to find a good board for a good price! - Just PM me if you wanna talk more.

At that price point I would absolutely look to buy a used keyboard, maybe a nice vintage one. You're actually going to be stuck with a gamer look at this price and most fullsize boards come in clicky switches.

If you can stretch the budget I'd get something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HHTFSIK/ref=sr_1_14?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1518016930&sr=1-14&keywords=brown+switch+keyboard

It will have better switches and a cleaner look with the LEDs off, as well as having the option for backlight if it's a particularly gloom day.

Just to add my experience, on my first try, the rep agreed to honor the 20% discount. The caveat is that I had to place my order at $47.99 price, and they would refund the correct discount in the next 1-2 business days (the rep said either the Marketing/Promo team would do it, or the agent herself would do it). I have full confidence they'll honor the agreement.

If it helps other people, I did the following through chat:

Ticket Detail: "I'm looking for help about Prime pricing on Overwatch - Origins (http://www.amazon.com/Overwatch-Origins-PC/dp/B017L187YG). The list price is $48.99, the Prime price should be $39.20, but is instead listed at $47.99."

Transcript:

>> Agent: Hello, my name is Agent. I'm here to help you today.

>> Me: Hi

>> Agent: Hello, I'm so sorry for the incorrect price show and let me check into this and see what I can do to help.

>> Me: Ok, thanks!


>> Agent: You are most welcome. One moment as I check.

>> Thanks for waiting.

>> May I know if you were referring to the 20% discount that will be applied on pre order items?

>> Me: Yes, the 20% discount that Prime members can get by pre-ordering games.

>>Agent: May I know if you already proceed to check out and and see if 20% discount was applied or it does not show up?

>>Me: When I add it to my card and get to the final page where I can place the order, this item appears: "Prime Savings: -$1.00"
with subtotal as: "Total before tax: $47.99"

>>tax $2.88

>>final price is $50.87

>>obviously $1.00 is far less than 20% of $48.99 ;)

>>Agent: I completely understand and let me check into this and see what I can do to help.

>>Me: Ok, thanks, I appreciate it. I'm looking to buy it with my Prime membership that I otherwise enjoy, but sadly it's not working quite right here.

>>Agent: Thanks for waiting.


>>So sorry if incorrect amount was applied and here is what I can do to help.

>>Please place the order and I will forward this issue to our Marketing and Promotions Team to correct the discount needs to apply on the order and they will respond within 1-2 business days and if our Marketing and Promotions Team will not able to assist you no need to worry I am here to back you up and I will refund 20% discount if Marketing team will not able to help.

>>Me: Ok, so to be clear, somebody at Amazon will refund the correct 20% (be it you, or Marketing & Promotions) at some point in the next 1-2 business days after I place my order, correct?

>>Agent: Yes that is right and may I know if this would be fine for you?

Edit: In case anyone happens across this, spoke to a rep the next day and they're refunding the difference (about $10.00). No problems at all getting Amazon to honor the correct pricing.

Link.

There's a blurb about the discount on that page, but it doesn't get taken into account until you're on the actual order confirmation page. Add it to your cart and go to the checkout page just to verify.

It's currently listed for $39.96 here from Amazon.

Origins Edition is still on sale.

https://www.amazon.com/Overwatch-Origins-PlayStation-4/dp/B017L187YG?th=1

https://www.amazon.com/Overwatch-Origins-PC/dp/B017L187YG

Physical.

https://www.amazon.com/Mayflash-F300-Arcade-Joystick-SWITCH/dp/B019MFPLC0

probably the best one. at that budget you're not getting the best feel and durability, but this one is at least moddable so you could add sanwa parts later if you wanted.

i have an unmodded version (the venom ps4 - i think it's basically the same stick) and it's fine for me.

You can go as cheap as this or as expensive as this

An in-between may be this or this (larger, comes with plexi and has custom artwork capability) since you could swap the parts out with your sanwa parts pretty easily.

Another option would be this if you want the same as the F300 but with bluetooth but it'd require some cable splicing as it only has four 2pin connectors while Sanwa uses 5pin for the joystick.

There are really only three reasons to build a stick, and short-term cost isn't one of them:

1. Build quality. A custom stick can use an all-metal case or even wood, both of which tend to be more durable than plastics found in many popular commercial sticks.
   
   
2. Parts. Custom sticks are generally very easy to modify, all of the hardware and PCBs can be replaced easily. Couple this with a good case and it's not uncommon for your arcade stick to last multiple generations of consoles, with just a PCB upgrade. Customs sticks allow you to use the hardware you prefer, the layout you prefer, and you can find PCBs that work on more systems than are usually available in retail sticks.
   
   
3. It's your own. You can not only customize the art, but the look of the stick itself. The best custom sticks are amazing pieces of art in their own right when the case, art, and hardware all complement each other. Many commercial sticks you can't change the art, and even for the few where that's possible, you are still stuck with the default case.
   
   Because of the first two reasons, a custom stick can be a great long-term investment, since a new PCB is much, much cheaper than a new high-quality stick.
   
   In the short-term though, it costs as much as a high end stick, especially if your case is all-metal or other high cost solutions.
   
   In your case I would recommend the new Mayflash sticks, like this one or something like the Qanba Drone.
   
   Both sticks you could upgrade with a little work, but are in any case good starter sticks. You might find them a little small or too light, and the parts aren't the highest quality, but it's probably best to start with one of these sub $100 options, then if you are enjoying stick a lot, move to a high end sanwa stick for ~$250.

Sticks like this or this are definitely "not good enough". If you read the associated reviews and they speak positively it is almost always in context of "budget" and "easily modded".

If you've never played on generic parts vs. good ones you'd be surprised how big the difference is. It isn't just some weird snake oil elitism.

I'd recommend the Mayflash f300 because it works with pretty much anything and can be upgraded with more high quality parts later if you want. the elite version already has high quality parts if you want to skip that step.

And after looking i have the f300. My apologies.
https://www.amazon.com/Mayflash-F300-Arcade-Joystick-SWITCH/dp/B019MFPLC0/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=arcade+stick&qid=1558715377&s=gateway&sr=8-3

I did this:

• Mayflash F300 from Amazon, $60
  
  
• Crown 309MJ from FocusAttack, $29.95
  
  
• FOUR "American Style" .187 harnesses from FocusAttack, $1.80
  
  
• EIGHT Sanwa Pushbuttons, $19.95
  
  bam, awesome stick for around $110 not counting shipping; NO SOLDERING OR DRILLING NEEDED.
  
  As long as you buy FOUR of the "American Style" .187 harnesses, the Crown 309MJ will plug right into the Mayflash F300's PCB. A single .187 to 5pin harness will work too (to plug into the unused 5pin connector on the Mayflash F300's board), but they are currently out of stock of them on FocusAttack.
  
  The Crown 309MJ is a Korean stick designed to fit in Japanese-style enclosures. If you buy any other type of Crown stick or a Fanta, it will not fit in your Mayflash F300 without drilling.
  

Id get this instead, it's the one I'm using for now

https://www.amazon.com/Mayflash-F300-Arcade-Joystick-SWITCH/dp/B019MFPLC0

This isn't new, this is exactly the same as my Mayflash fightstick, exact body and everything...works with Playstation, Xbox and PC. It's got cheap parts or considered to be some of the cheapest parts for fightsticks in general, but the useful bit is the 'turbo' feature that it allows for some buttons.

This is nothing but a rebrand or third party acquiring already available parts from a parts supplier. It's very similar to units like a XIM4 that use a controller as a middle man to provide inputs across a controller. You plug the unit or fightstick into the console first then then plug the controller into the fightstick and it piggy backs of the controller inputs.

Amazon Link

Cheap, mechanical and RGB all in one is very tough to find, and usually even if you do find one at that pricepoint it'll be lacking in other fields such as durability and build quality. That said, I did manage to find one that fits your needs, a Redragon 42$ Kumara.

It does exist. It's called the Zhuque Create it Yourself, known as the CIY and is on Amazon US here

https://www.amazon.com/Team-Wolf-Swappable-Mechanical-Keyboard-Blue/dp/B01AFBJQA8

http://www.pcgamingrace.com/products/glorious-modular-rgb-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-barebones

If you want customizable lighting and TKL you'll have to wait for the TKL Glorious later this year.

https://www.amazon.com/Team-Wolf-Swappable-Mechanical-Keyboard-Blue/dp/B01AFBJQA8

I use this as my daily driver. the hot swap feature works well and its a nice keyboard overall. Quite ugly though.

Ganss for $93.

Team Wolf Zhuque and 120 SMD Gateron Greens for $95.

MK's Cherry Green and Gateron Green.

So a KBP V60 with Gateron Greens looks to be the cheapest option, followed by the Ganss.

I didn't find any Magicforce keyboards offered for sale right now. Here's the Drevo that was mentioned. https://www.amazon.com/Drevo-84-Key-Tenkeyless-Mechanical/dp/B01H6DHITE/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1483889113&sr=8-7&keywords=tenkeyless+mechanical+keyboard

DREVO 84

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01H6DHITE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_STy9ybF1THWT7

Seems best to start very cheap so you can start to figure out what you like, maybe this one https://www.amazon.com/DREVO-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard-Switch/dp/B01H6DHITE?th=1&psc=1

Qisan/Magicforce Full size white backlit, but brown switches and $70

This is a good option and is what I have https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HHTFSIK/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1492276676&sr=1-1&keywords=magicforce+gateron+brown

Kailh switches are generally considered to be lower quality than Cherry or Gateron. The keyboard looks like it has a standard bottom row, so that opens up your keycap opportunities, but keycaps are rarely below $20 from any manufacturer.

This keyboard is from a more reputable brand, and has Gateron Browns. It also comes with white keycaps by default - but the case is white too. It's also in a similar price range.

• Magicforce 68.
  
  Excellent budget option, pretty damn nice looking, comes with shockingly good ABS keycaps (they feel great, not very thick to be expected but they're damn nice for the price), comes in either Cherry MX, Gateron, Kailh or Outemu switch variants (obviously, price varies), has 3 different colour options (black, gold and silver/white) and has a couple of different LED options (typically from what I can tell, the Cherry MX/Gateron variants have either solid white or solid blue LEDs, whereas the Kailh/Outemu variants come with blue LEDs but orange WASD/arrowkeys. Has a removable cable too.
  
  
  
  
  
• 'Generic' Kailh TKL
  
  
  I say generic because there's a lot of companies taking the reference of this board and rebranding it, just changing the logo etc. It's got decent build quality, cheap as hell in terms of price, Outemu switches from what I can tell, and well, it's cheap. Overall I'd choose the Magicforce over this any day, but it's an option of course.
  
  
  
  Those are the main 2 I'd consider, the fullsize Magicforce is also a decent option though it's a hair below $70.

Nixeus Moda Pro w/ Kailh Browns $65 on Amazon

MagicForce Crystal 108 w/ Gateron Browns $70 on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Joystick-PlayStation-Fighting-Officially-Licensed-4/dp/B01I0GEDEY

80$ so bit higher than you want but its easy even with no knowledge to open up and replace parts if something does go wrong

I have a qanba carbon which is same parts as it and made excellent entry stick bit it doesn't support PS4 but the sticks are very comparable so I do recommend that one

I can say I have never seen the obsidian go lower then $160 so I think that's a steal. As for the TE2+ the pricing gets tricky since they don't make it anymore the price seems to always be inflated a couple months ago they where at over $300+ easy. I would say this sale is about as good as it is going to get until EVO since the prices on sticks only seem to drop around the release of new Fighting games and DBZF is huge right now so they are pushing them hard. But of course you do get random stuff like the Panthera being $140 I even missed out on that sale. But once the hype goes down for DBZF you won't see a sale on them for easily 6 months since they are a very niche product. It has gotten to the point where I get excited every time there is a huge fighting game out even if I have no intention of playing it since the sticks will finally come down in price. Here is the sales history of the TE2+ on amazon, Obisidan, and Drone. You can see its crazy how they rarely go on sale and when they do it is always with hype of a new game or Black friday. I mean hell the obsidian seems to never be on god damn sale, I would say if you wanna buy buy now before we enter the drought but that's just me.

Logitech G Pro on sale now. Really good mouse.

rip in pieces

this is a fantastic mouse if you're still looking for a new one

I reccommend the redragon k552 or k555-r
Links:
https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K552-N-KUMARA-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B01LXD7TP9/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1485482262&sr=1-1&keywords=redragon+k552
https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-INDRAH-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B01LY0NFAN/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1485482281&sr=1-2&keywords=redragon%2Bk553&th=1

K552 TKL mech no backlight $27

https://www.amazon.ca/Redragon-K552-N-Mechanical-Keyboard-Construction/dp/B01LXD7TP9/

https://www.amazon.ca/Redragon-Mechanical-Keyboard-Illuminated-Construction/dp/B01LXD7STC/?th=1

https://www.amazon.ca/Redragon-KUMARA-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B01LXD7TP9/?th=1

Redragon has some cheap quality mechanical boards, they're not cherry switches but they're just as good as far as I'm aware.

No idea about deals on the mouse side, but the G203 is a well regarded mouse and that seems like a decent deal.

You can get a mechanical keyboard for $30. Don’t waste your money. https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K552-N-Mechanical-Keyboard-Construction/dp/B01LXD7TP9/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?keywords=redragon+mechanical+keyboard&qid=1558825566&s=gateway&sr=8-5

There are decent mechanical keyboards for less than $30.

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-KUMARA-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B01LXD7TP9/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1522257027&sr=8-2&keywords=red%2Bdragon%2Bkeyboard&th=1

If you want to buy once and never again, Fanatec is probably your best bet but it comes at a price.

ClubSport V2.5 Wheel Base is my recommendation for wheel base, check out the steering wheels you like and pick one, this is more preference. This base should basically last you forever, DD wheelbases are highly over-rated in my book.

ClubSport Pedale V3 because they come with the load-cell upgrade already and this is probably the most important upgrade if you take sim racing seriously, it greatly helps with your braking being more consistent.

If else, check out the setup I use. I honestly love it and I don't really see myself upgrading anytime soon. I plan on getting a new setup maybe next year and I'll most likely buy what I posted above if they are still available at the time.

Thrustmaster T300 RS GT and T3PA Pedals

Still active at this link: https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL/ref=sr_1_2?crid=6OEFOQ2V2JHD&keywords=thrustmaster+t300&qid=1563221078&s=videogames&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sprefix=Thrustmaster+%2Cvideogames%2C185&sr=1-2

Need a budget, but since you just learned to drive, I'm guessing you're young and funds are limited. As /u/MrTrt already said, the T300 is probably the cheapest wheel with swappable rims. https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=thrustmaster+T300&qid=1562172552&s=gateway&sr=8-1

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If you have a bigger budget, then start looking at Fanatec as they have a TON of rim options and price ranges. If you can spend into the thousands, then a direct drive wheel is the way to go.

Heard the tracking isn't great on the WMR's but this with the Thrustmaster T300 RS that's on sale for $200 would be a pretty neat sim racing setup for under $400 if you have the gpu to power it.

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=thrustmaster+t300rs+gt&qid=1562597534&s=gateway&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sr=8-3

It's a G29 but I have pulled the pedals out from their casing and made my own retractable pedal box. It works just the same. There is also a similar G920, the G29 works with PC and PS3/4 while the G920 works with PC and Xbox one.

I would say that a wheel adds a great deal of immersion to racing, there are cheaper options but I upgraded pretty much immediately because the paddles on the cheaper wheels are rubbish. They are force feedback so you can feel the car moving through the wheel.

My wheel is barely considered entry level, in fact hardcore enthusiasts will not accept anything less than a Thrustmaster T300 which is out of my price range.

There's a good deal on the Thrustmaster T300 RS GT on Amazon atm, not sure if that helps you based on the euros.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M1L2NRL?th=1

so TBH all I have is a right handed stick that I use in my left hand. Its rather uncomfortable, but let me tell you I fly a million times better. One day I'll get myself a T16000m to fly with. That will be the day. Ambidextrous joysticks are rather uncommon, unfortunately.

Ultimately, it's going to be a matter of taste. What sounds like the most fun to you? That's the question I asked myself a few years ago when the original Arena Commander module released. I decided the answer to that was dual stick, so I got myself a cheap left handed joystick and tried it. Turns out I love it! If immersion is what you're looking for, joysticks certainly deliver, at least in my experience. But I've been playing with joysticks for two decades now so I'm familiar with adjusting to odd control schemes. You may not want to invest that time, effort, and money.

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If you do decide to try it out, however, there are a lot of cheap options that will give you a taste of what you're looking for without breaking the bank. I used the Extreme 3D pro joystick before upgrading recently, and it was a good option for only $30. Link HERE. There's also the T16000M which is fully ambidextrous for $60. I used it to test dual stick flight. Link HERE. And you may find them cheaper used. You can always upgrade later if it turns out you really like the setup, which is what I did.

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If all you want to do is run cargo and explore, though, any options will be fine. If you think you'll be happy with mouse and keyboard, don't sweat it! I like decoupled flight and combat so having that additional control over my thrusters is nice and immersive, but that's my situation, not yours.

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Again, ask yourself honestly what sounds like fun and go from there. If mouse and keyboard seems sufficient to you, there's no point in spending money. No amount of advice from other people can top that.

Amazon (US) has both the flight stick and flight pack on sale. Not sure if they'll go any lower.-
Flightstick: $40, down from $60
Flightstick + Throttle: $97, down from $107
Flight pack: $130, down from $160

Thrustmaster T16000M. Replaced my old logitech 3d pro which was a workhorse for many years for me and prob the majority of this community. But was floored with the level of precision and ergonomics of the Thrustmaster. Its because it has hall effect sensors rather then pententiometers which alot of the old flight hardware tends to have. I got the whole package with throttle and pedals and never looked back. Tons of programmable buttons too! Prob the best stick you can get in the sub $100 price category.

Thrustmaster T16000M FCS https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MQEDEEW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_IWXxCbJ1V06FB

FYI T16000m sticks are on sale for $39 at Amazon

And for those in Canada- it’s cheaper still than buying from Amazon.ca even with shipping and currency exchange, and there is a 1 per limit cap on the current sale.

Source- just bought two, shipping north of the border.

There aren't a lot of cheap HOTAS options. Some things to consider:

• T-Flight HOTAS X is relatively cheap at $50, but has relatively few buttons to work with and mediocre sensors that can make fine aiming difficult. A lot of people use it and are very happy with it though.
  
• T.16000M FCS is the next step up, and although it's fairly new it seems to be getting a pretty good reception. It's over your budget at $129 though.
  
• Dual joysticks is another totally viable and fun way to play, although it may take a bit more work to find a way to control all thrusters that feels natural (some people use twist for forward/reverse, some add rudder pedals, etc). There are obviously lots of possible combinations, one that works for your budget is a T-16000m combined with a Logitech Extreme 3d pro, for $95 combined.
  
  

The Extreme 3D Pro is a very entry-level stick. It will get the job done, but you need to know that you'll be replacing it in a couple years or less if you use it heavily. It's plastic-on-plastic and wears pretty fast, and it's not got the greatest precision to begin with.

The T16000M is a better entry-level stick, being both more precise and better able to stand up to wear over time.

If you can convince your dad to spring for something slightly more expensive, the T16000M HOTAS package gives you a throttle to use as well, and would mean that you could set up to acquire an affordable sim package over the next year by using facetrackNOIR or other webcam-based head tracking, plus saving up for a set of rudder pedals.

Have you used the Outemo blue/brown switches before? Just curious.




Mechanical Keyboard with Brown Switches,Rottay LED Backlit 104-Key Mechanical Gaming Keyboard with Anti-ghosting Ergonomical Perfect for PC&Mac Gamers and typist(black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0747D3YWR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_W42cAbZHDJJY9




Gaming Keyboard Mechanical Brown Switches 104-Key Doubleshot ABS Outemu Velocifire VM01 LED Illuminated Backlit Anti-ghosting Keys Full Size (Wired) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M0QEYR4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_K62cAbWPPYAP4



Redragon K556 RGB LED Backlit Wired Mechanical Gaming Keyboard, Aluminum Base, 104 Standard Keys https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NAI2TXC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_x72cAbPKDF81N




Found 3 at good price with good reviews. I would personally pick the Redragon if I were buying one.



Editing is crap cause I'm on mobile. Sorry for the mess.

I have a Redragon Devarajas and I really like it. Plus it is built like a tank.

Redragon K556 RGB LED Backlit Wired Mechanical Gaming Keyboard, Aluminum Base, 104 Standard Keys https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NAI2TXC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_el2UBbHF6205C

I just got a Redragon K556 off Amazon and couldn't be happier. Full aluminum case (that feels awesome btw). On board memory and completely programmable through the keyboard, but comes with software which I appreciated. Completely modular plug and play switches. Fits any 3 pin cherry mx or knockoff. Tested myself with Cherrys and comes with Outemu browns. You'll have to grab "LED"/"RGB" versions of Gateron or Outemu switches off ebay though if you wan't the LED's to shine through. Cherry doesn't seem to make a shine through switch that I could find. I got these on the way. You'll notice the slit on the bottom that lets the light shine through from behind the switch.

I didn't really want a logo on my board, but at least its a cool looking dragon and not a written name. And for only $60 it left me a lot of extra cash left over for the switches I wanted and ordering some custom caps.

I purchased the Redragon K556 Devarajas on Amazon about a month ago and I'm really happy with it so far:

https://smile.amazon.com/Redragon-K556-Mechanical-Keyboard-Aluminum/dp/B01NAI2TXC/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=redragon+devarajas&qid=1555392817&s=gateway&sr=8-3

I have this keyboard, https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K556-Mechanical-Keyboard-Aluminum/dp/B01NAI2TXC which keycaps would fit without problem? it has 2 different options and I want to dab into customizing my mechanical keyboard.

Oh god, yes, we have. You ordered from HTC direct, correct?

Good luck to you comrade. There's many of us that... Don't have very nice things to say about HTC. In any case, enjoy your Vive! It is a fantastic piece of kit. Think about getting the Deluxe Audio Strap for increased comfort and pretty nice built in headphones.

I would say it's as close to the vive w/ DAS as the quest could be comfort-wise, an immense improvement overall. The face cushion of the vive is more plush but that's the only difference IMO.

Links are in the description, but here they are as well:

• HTC Vive Deluxe Audio Strap - http://amzn.com/B06Y2GDXMC
  
• VELCRO Industrial Strength Strips: http://amzn.com/B0010HADEA
  
• 1 Inch Velcro Straps (The ones I used, but you can find better): http://amzn.com/B074V2MFMC
  
• 1 Inch Velcro Straps (Better ones): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I0TTPL8
  
• 1.5 Inch D Ring: http://amzn.com/B076J5RVNW
  
  edit: added new velcro

Cloth VR Cover $20: https://vrcover.com/product/htc-vive-pre-vr-cover/

Deluxe Audio Strap $99: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y2GDXMC/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_QzC0CbGN011FW

Only other thing would be HDMI / USB 3.0 and link box power extension cord. There is a post explaining which cables work best.

what is the difference between this and https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071W2697M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_EMpfAbQAPDCV8? Are PBT Key Caps something special?

Look for 60% or 80% keyboards. 80% are also called TKL or Tenkeyless. A nice deal right now on an 80% is: https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Mechanical-TenKeyless/dp/B01D8ETGNQ for RGB

or

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Tenkeyless-Mechanical/dp/B071W2697M/ for non RGB

Otherwise, 60% keyboards are pretty niche but you can find them on Massdrop regularly or mechanicalkeyboards.com for usually $10-20 more than Massdrop.

Do you definitely need a numpad..? If not, I would encourage you to wait a bit for this new simplistic Masterkeys from Coolermaster, as it will be definitely worth it's money. Multiple switches to pick from, great build quality and great keycaps. Also standard layout that you can customize later if you want to, macros and ability to change into Dvorake/Colemak on a firmware level.

without rgb is under 100. I have one and I’m happy with it

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B071W2697M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1503206398&sr=8-1&keywords=master%2Bkeys%2Bpbt&th=1

• Leopold FC750R
  
  
• Ducky One TKL
  
  
• Cooler Master MasterKeys S PBT
  
  
• Filco Majestouch 2 TKL
  
  
• Varmilo VA87M

Thanks for the thoughts, although im pretty sure i'll need the optical drive for my drivers for my mouse and tablet

http://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Precision-Programmable-programmable-Cartridge/dp/B00GU4F4OM

My favorite mouse of all time. Not for the dpi (I only go up to 1200), but for the superb feel in hand. I don't have any complaints with this mouse at all.

I have somewhat large hands, but I have been very happy with my Redragon Mammoth.

Adjustable DPI is nice. I don't move my wrist either, and it's easy to grip.

Gamestop's is physical. If you're looking for just a digital code you get immediately, I recommend Amazon.

EDIT: Here's the link. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O15486W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_U-AhAbW90NYDK

even qualifies for the bonus item promo codes

https://www.amazon.com/Final-Fantasy-XIV-Online-Time/dp/B00O15486W/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1465948425&sr=1-1&keywords=ffxiv


This has the promo listed on the pagejust like the $20 PSN digital code, but unsure if it will work as I have not tested it.

You sure can.

https://www.amazon.com/Final-Fantasy-XIV-Online-Time/dp/B00O15486W

E: However, you do get a discount if you subscribe on the Mogstation for 90 or 180 days at once.

E2: If you do the Basic sub on the mogstation, which is fine for most people, it's also cheaper even month-to-month, but you don't get a discount for longer subs.

You could buy and use game time cards rather than going straight through mogstation.


https://www.amazon.com/Final-Fantasy-XIV-Online-Time/dp/B00O15486W

Ugh this is the promotion tag:

http://prnt.sc/f4wh34

Edit: For example, this:

https://www.amazon.com/Final-Fantasy-XIV-Online-Time/dp/B00O15486W/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1494216488&sr=1-1&keywords=final+fantasy+xiv

the seller needs to be amazon, not a 3rd party seller.

A game like this also works:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M32FMUL/ref=s9_acsd_top_hd_bw_b710WTj_c_x_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_r=9AA10ERKKE8Y4M0HKGCQ&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=b19ae101-94bf-57df-9232-8068a602235b&pf_rd_i=6427831011&th=1

Are you 100% sold on that particular keyboard or would any with labeled media keys suffice?

Edit: Here, I went and found some keyboards that are full size, have brown switches, have labeled media keys, and are less than or equal to the price of that keyboard. All from US.

Rosewill RK-9000V2

CM Storm Quickfire XT

Ducky One

Das Model S

If you don't find anything you like here, you can get a Rosewill RK-9000v2 on Amazon with Browns for $79.99. I just bought one for work about a month ago, and I've been very happy with it. Very minimal, basic keyboard that gets the job done, no frills.

Link

So after some research and waiting I've got my first new mechanical keyboard since the old Tandy days. I went with a Rosewill RK-9000V2 BR with Cherry MX Brown switches and Maxkey DOLCH doubleshot ABS keycaps. The caps just arrived and I installed them today. So, so nice! I am so totally loving this setup. Thanks to everyone who posts to this group for all the keyboard porn that got me hooked on spending the money and getting a new keyboard. Here are the links to to pictures and the sources I used.

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https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00S5E4LX0/ref=pe_3034960_236394800_TE_dp_1

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/MAXKEY-DOLCH-SA-Double-shot-ABS-keycaps-for-mechanical-keyboard/32818565728.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.KyKX1h

If you're looking for a full sized keyboard that's got a plastic case and nothing flashy, I would suggest the Rosewill Rk9000 line.

They're basically cheaper Filco's that are made in the same factory. I've been using one at home for 5 years no with no complaints

The Rosewill RK-9000V2 is a pretty good keyboard for its price i'd say

Make sure it is branded Cherry MX switches, not proprietary "mechanical switches" like some Razer keyboards have. Accept no substitutes.

Here's one I recommend
https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Mechanical-Keyboard-RK-9000V2-BR/dp/B00S5E4LX0

When buying a mouse, make sure it has a good sensor and it is suited for your grip style (the most common grip styles being palm and claw).

My current mouse is a claw grip mouse, the Logitech G303. It has the PMW3366 sensor, which is arguably one of, if not, the best sensor on the market.

Other good brands are Zowie and SteelSeries.

edit: also, if you dont already, get a mousepad!

You might want to look into the Logitech G303. It fits into your budget, it's a good "small hand" mouse, clicks are really nice, performs really well, and Logitech are known for making workhorse mice.

Logitech G303 + Review

Logitech G102 + Review

Cougar Minos X3 + Review

All taken from this page, he's a great mouse reviewer.

PSA: This price is currently matched on amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Daedalus-Performance-Gaming-910-004380/dp/B00TKFD51M/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1485961872&sr=1-1&keywords=g303

Update:

I just ordered the G303, it was $23 off on amazon and I couldn't resist. here's the link if anyone else wants to buy it: http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Daedalus-Performance-Gaming-910-004380/dp/B00TKFD51M/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1453980898&sr=1-1&keywords=G303

if you really don't want to go over $35 then definitely take the g302, if you can sped a few more you could go for the g303, which is $40 and has the same shape as the g302 but better sensor. some people also have problems with the g302 "wobbling" because it has no mouse feet on the sides of the mouse
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00TKFD51M/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484610023&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=logitech+g303&dpPl=1&dpID=314UDpL3BCL&ref=plSrch
you could also look at the logitech g203, also$40 it has a rounder shape than the g302 and is probably a safer choice than the g302 unless you know you are comfortable with the shape.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01M26YUKO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484610539&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=logitech+g203&dpPl=1&dpID=319KAiGobEL&ref=plSrch

Amazon has price matched it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TKFD51M/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Thrustmaster T150 + Thrustmaster TH8A is the closest you're gonna get. It also gets you into the Thrustmaster ecosystem, which is great for when you potentially look for more upgrades in the future, such as a new wheel base of pedals.

Can easily do it for around $200, but you'll be wanting to be spending at least that much on individual components by year end. This rabbit hole is a dark, and very very deep one ;)

Thrustmaster T150 for ~$150

G29 for ~$200

TMX by itself for ~$180 but you need to buy pedals/shifter by itself

Hyperkin silicon gel controller and headset covers.

Hyperkin lens covers.

Seinheisser HD 598 SE headphones.

Leap Motion


Wooden HMD Stand

Wii Controller Straps

EDIT (Few more):

Overhead Cable Suspension Solution

Acoustic Wall Foam

Floor Mat

Racing Wheel

Subpac

The TM T150 is [$129 on amazon]
(https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014US02ZA?ref_=sr_1_8&s=videogames&qid=1480000547&sr=1-8&keywords=g29&pldnSite=1)

No, they make one:
Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas 4 Flight Stick for PS4 & PC https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015PJ68BK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_UG4-zbSZG3JCS

I never played on the PC, but I have it on the XBOX. honestly, I don't think you'll be missing much. The controls are super solid, and if it doesn't quite fit what you need, you can always tweak it. I've personally never had any issues with it, in fact, I'm still using the default controls.

Also, on PS4, if you REALLY want a HOTAS, you can definitely order some for cheap. I'm debating it myself.

But all in all, the controls are super solid! I wouldn't be very worried.

Also, check out /r/ElitePS for the PS4 player of Elite!

I am new to DCS, a long time flight sim nut and working on my pilot's license. I bought many of the planes (A-10C, F/A-18C, FC3 and the F-5E). I could not decide so it was better to buy them all since they were on sale lol! What I found out was the F-18 and the F-5E are the two I enjoy with the F-5E what I am enjoying most. I feel more like I am having to work more to fly it but in a good way. Fun to startup but not excessive, fun to fly and land. I think I actually like that I do not have all of the toys. The aggressors campaign for the F-5E has been fun to learn on since I also bought the Nevada map. The F/A-18C is a weapons platform, but the real joy is taking off and landing on a carrier.

I bought a cheap HOTAS as I just could not fly with the XBOX controller. It know that it is not the Warthog HOTAS (maybe Christmas 2019 now that there is the F/A-18 add-on stick), but for $70, I cannot stress how much better it is without a deep investment. I got a friend in on the game and he got the A-10C because he wants close quarters bombing and strafing runs and he bought the PS4 version of my stick and loving it.

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https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-One-xbox/dp/B07643TW2V?th=1

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https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-playstation-4/dp/B015PJ68BK/

Here's one for $69.99

And here's one for $39.81

Haven't used either one, but I've heard they're pretty decent.

It's the Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas 4 I bought it at Best Buy for about $60. Currently, EVE Valkerie Elite Dangerous and War Thunder support it. Upcoming Ace Combat 7 and I'm sure other flight based games will as well. EVE alone makes it amazing!

Flight stick https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015PJ68BK/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491012906&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=hotas+4

Redragon M801 Mammoth 16400 DPI Programmable Laser Gaming Mouse for PC, 9 Programmable Buttons, 5 User Profiles, Weight Tuning, Omron Switches, Black

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GU4F4OM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_sA4vxbC04PH98

I love this mous soooooo much. I love the notches too that is the main reason i got it. It comes in a few different colors.

I have this one: http://smile.amazon.com/Redragon-Mammoth-Programmable-PC-Profiles-Switches/dp/B00GU4F4OM/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1457765904&sr=8-6&keywords=redragon

If you have a few more dollars, i suggest buying it.

It's not the cheapest, but I've been using this: 30 dollar red dragon and I'm super happy with it. The 3 side buttons work well for light attack animation cancelling, the secondary index button is easily accessible, leaving me just my ult and 1 skill (usually a buff) on my keyboard.

I personally have a Redragon Mammoth - $26 and I absolutely love it. I ended up getting another one for work as well.
If you need more buttons to program, you could get the Redragon Perdition - $37. I don't personally own it, but my friends that do also highly recommend it.

I have a "redragon" (whatever tf that even means) rgb mouse that I got for 27 USD. I have enormous hands and it fits perfectly. It's a 16000 dpi that goes up or down with the press of a button. Would recommend.


https://smile.amazon.com/Redragon-M801-Programmable-Profiles-Switches/dp/B00GU4F4OM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1503865952&sr=8-1&keywords=12000+dpi+redragon

There are a million other mice with the same wheel, and general design too. I swear there is one company in china making the same couple of mice with different variations for each. Just look at these two mice

http://www.amazon.com/HV-MS672-Ergonomic-Soothing-Colors-Buttons/dp/B00KKAQYXM/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1453590544&sr=8-6&keywords=gaming+mouse

http://www.amazon.com/UtechSmart-Uranus-Precision-Gaming-Lithoclase/dp/B00USS6TLS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1453590574&sr=8-3&keywords=utechsmart The "mars" mouse

These chinease mice are pretty much the same thing with different engravings, yet two different companies. Heres another example

http://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Mammoth-Programmable-PC-Profiles-Switches/dp/B00GU4F4OM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1453590861&sr=8-3&keywords=red+dragon+gaming+mouse

http://www.amazon.com/THINKTANK-T90-Precision-Computer-Multi-Modes/dp/B017PA4OZY/ref=sr_1_27?ie=UTF8&qid=1453590770&sr=8-27&keywords=havit+gaming+mouse

Its litterely the same thing just different engravings and buttons

Well, The mouse was for my home office. I personally like ones that have forward/back buttons on the side and adjustable sensitivity, but that is my preference.

I ended up with this, but I also use it to game occasionally. this mouse is similar to what I have at work.

I got the Red Dragon Mammoth for $40. Apparently, its on sale right now. Anyways, it's not super fancy but its damn good for the price you pay. You can find more about the Revenant profession with the link.

This must be the height of ridiculousness, then.

My Friend uses this mouse and he is in love

This seems to be a fine Keyboard

https://www.amazon.com/Final-Fantasy-XIV-Online-Time/dp/B00O15486W/

That's the Digital version for $30.

https://www.amazon.com/Final-Fantasy-XIV-Online-Time/dp/B00O15486W

that’s how i go about it. it says PC specifically but works for ps4 as well (ps4 player here).

can alternatively purchase it using real-world money converted to the currency on mog station but i never did it that way.

60 Day Time Card:

Under the listing it says:
> Special Offers and Product Promotions
> * Spend $19.99 or more in the Amazon Video Games Category to receive six exclusive in-game items for "Final Fantasy XIV." You will receive your code by email within 2 business days. Here's how (restrictions apply)

So that would be a "yes". :)

Here you go.

Edit: And here's a screen-grab of my checkout screen. Make sure you have the "DLC promotion" under qualifying offers.

Buying a 60-day time card does count. Just make sure it gives a link to the promo on the page of the time card you are buying (like this one). The items are given to all characters on your account.

I bought a 60 day time card from amazon and after I punched it in, I automatically got the vet rewards for 30 and 60 day. So time cards for sure will unlock your vet rewards right away.

I'm not sure what you mean by steam gift cards. AFAIK, I only paid for the steam base product, and my subscription is maintained strictly in mogstation through my SE account.

EDIT: I went into my mogstation account and found a button that allows you to use steam payment. It's right next to add a time card button.

This is the time card that I bought: https://www.amazon.com/Final-Fantasy-XIV-Online-Time/dp/B00O15486W

Aren't you able to purchase a time card from amazon or another retailer like that? I know this doesn't solve the bigger problem (support itself and your blist ip) but at least it is a bandage that will allow you to continue to enjoy the game. Sorry if I missed something about why you arent using the time card in your post, I just woke up and I am not fully awake yet. Good luck!
https://www.amazon.com/Final-Fantasy-XIV-Online-Time/dp/B00O15486W/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1495378453&sr=1-1&keywords=ffxiv+time+card

no need, I'm glad to help =) its this one! https://www.amazon.com/Final-Fantasy-XIV-Online-Time/dp/B00O15486W
It'll show for us Brazilians as currently unavailable, you need to make an account with an US address (needs to be an account with just an US address, you can't add a new address to your BR account), then you'll be able to buy it. You also need to use an international credit card.

you can buy gametime cards and that counts.

https://www.amazon.com/Final-Fantasy-XIV-Online-Time/dp/B00O15486W

Which timecard? Just this?

You can skip the 30 day wait period by getting a 60 day gamecard from Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Final-Fantasy-XIV-Online-Time/dp/B00O15486W/

https://www.amazon.com/Mario-Kart-8-Deluxe-Nintendo-Switch/dp/B01N1037CV?th=1

https://www.amazon.com/Final-Fantasy-XIV-Online-Time/dp/B00O15486W/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1493294193&sr=1-1&keywords=final+fantasy+xiv+time+card

https://www.amazon.com/eCash-Nintendo-eShop-Switch-Digital/dp/B01LYOCVZF/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1493294219&sr=1-1&keywords=nintendo+eshop+card

At the top above Add to Cart, they say either:

Ships from and sold by Amazon.com. Gift-wrap available.

Available Now.
Sold by Amazon Digital Services LLC

And note that just above the Product Description, all of them say:

Special offers and product promotions

Any video game purchase of $19.99 or greater on Amazon.com will qualify you to receive an Amazon promotional code that will grant you three exclusive pieces of DLC for Final Fantasy XIV: Stormblood! Codes will be sent within 48 hours of purchase. Here's how (restrictions apply)

That's what you need to look for. Most (but not all) new games or time card will be eligible. If the game is old, and no longer being published by the original company, it's probably going to come from a third-party and not be eligible.

amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Final-Fantasy-XIV-Online-Time/dp/B00O15486W

http://www.amazon.com/Final-Fantasy-XIV-Online-Time/dp/B00O15486W/

Game on.

Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Final-Fantasy-XIV-Online-Time/dp/B00O15486W

You can get a $30 FFXIV game time card! :)

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O15486W/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3ODHND3J0WMC8

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00O15486W/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1495379701&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=ffxiv+time+card&dpPl=1&dpID=51tOZ8wJmIL&ref=plSrch Here you go buddy! This is where I buy them

Disclaimer: I bought the 60-day time card. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O15486W

As long as you see this on the item page, you should be good to go: http://i.imgur.com/ZvBTuqy.png

I would look at the rose will RK-9000 http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Mechanical-Keyboard-Switches-RK-9000V2/dp/B00S5E4LX0?th=1&psc=1 cheap and is fairly professional looking

First timer here. Narrowed it down to two. Any thoughts?

http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-QuickFire-XT-Mechanical/dp/B00DKXXABK

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S5E4LX0/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1M5NBBBKEIS1D&coliid=I2A35Y4NY4RQVI&psc=1

Looking to buy my first MKB, full sized, Brown (or Clear, but I see that they are rare/expensive), no more than $90, and it would be used 70% of the time for gaming. This is what I've been looking at, but I'm curious about peoples thoughts on it for general use and gaming. Also looking for other recommendations that would fit my requirements.

I need help making a purchase decision. I bought my first mechanical a few months ago. It was a $40-something off-brand with Outemu blue switches, and OH MY GOD was it a breath of fresh air compared to the mushy swamp keyboard I'd been struggling with since college. Clickety clackety never going backety.

Now I want to replace my work keyboard. I prefer something sedate and professional looking, and I really like having a number pad. I've pretty much settled on Cherry brown switches this time, but I'm tossing around a couple of different models in the sub-$100 category. The thoughts of /r/mechanicalkeyboards are welcome:

• Rosewill RK-9000. A pretty popular entry-level board, and I know the brand.
  
• CoolerMaster Storm QuickFire XT. CM's seem to have a decent reputation at this price point, and I've read rumors that the QuickFires are made in the same factory as some Filco models.
  
• iKBC C104. This is the model I'm most curious about. It looks like a nicely built keyboard with higher quality key caps, but I can't find much information about the brand other than some references to a MassDrop sale a while back. What's the deal here?
  
  Thanks!

You may get Redragon or Rosewill

https://www.amazon.ca/Rosewill-Mechanical-Keyboard-RK-9000V2-BR/dp/B00S5E4LX0/ref=mp_s_a_1_26?adgrpid=57898022101&hvadid=310059670066&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9001077&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=8853527168305914972&hvtargid=kwd-296614449107&keywords=cherry%2Bmx%2Bsilent&qid=1550438834&s=gateway&sr=8-26&tag=h0a61-20&th=1&psc=1

Then put O-rings on it. I don't know if you can get Silent Reds or their clones at that price. I wouldn't put O-rings because it took away the sounds.

So basically you want a full keyboard with proper mech switches under $80? Only option I can think of that isn't cheap knockoff switches or bad polling would be something like Roswill's mech line. Like $70, you can choose between red, blue, or brown cherry MX switches. Full sized KB, reasonable build quality, and comes with a PS/2 dongle so you can use system interrupt protocol for your KB instead of USB. Also comes with a nice braided USB cable you can swap out if you manage to damage the thing somehow.

Hello everyone,

I am looking for a 100% keyboard with no-click Cherry MX Red switches (or maybe Brown or Black or another "quiet" switch). It's for typing a lot. It needs to have larger keys and/or larger key spacing than a plain old Dell KB212-B keyboard.

Any ideas? How about the Rosewill RK-9000V2 BR?

Thanks in advance!

I am currently using Rosewill RK-9000V2s at home at at work, with brown switches and the O-ring kit. They're sturdy and heavy, without any flashy crap. Been using the one at work for 18 months now, no problems.

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Daedalus-Performance-Gaming-910-004380/dp/B00TKFD51M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483858630&sr=8-1&keywords=logitech+303

also at same price $24.99 at amazon.com

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Daedalus-Performance-Gaming-910-004380/dp/B00TKFD51M

I've heard good things about this being lightweight and responsive for online FPS and other things, even if it only has two buttons

Here are my recommendations:

G303

G502

EC2-A

DeathAdder Chroma

They're all great mice with the best sensors out there, so you should make your choice based on shape and price. Especially the G303, great mouse but the shape takes getting used to. Best of luck

mechanical keyboards are definetely nicer to play on(clicky and easy to tell when you press a key), but are more expensive, a gaming mouse will make a difference if the sensor is better than your current one.

For 60$ I would say

• Logitech G303 Mouse
  
  
• Large Steelseries mousepad
  
  The large mousepad helps a lot and is really nice to use, so you can play on a lower sensitivity which will help you aim in games.
  
  if you do get the money later on, you could get a mechanical keyboard like this one which had brown switches (more quiet but still "clicky").

Apparently you can still find them used for ~$100, but they cost $325 to $400 new. That or amazon is acting wierd.

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Daedalus-Performance-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B00TKFD51M

I've seen G502s for $50 before, so I can say it does go on sale. Maybe less often than the others, but the G303 has the same sensor as the G502 and is often around that price range you mentioned, and has the same functionality (two side buttons etc).

Do note that the G502 has a lot of extra functions, like the free scroll wheel etc. Those are excessively useful in non-gaming scenarios. That being said, here it is for $60 USD at Best Buy: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/logitech-g502-proteus-spectrum-optical-gaming-mouse-black/4803300.p?skuId=4803300

I would find a good mouse you like, so you aren't using a touch pad. I highly recommend the new logitech mice that have their new sensor. I personally have never used a mouse with a better sensor. Any of these three mice are good. I recommend the logitech g pro if you don't know what preference in style you have for your mouse. It's pretty close to what you would be use to in standard mice.

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Shifting-Personalized-Programmable-Customizable/dp/B00IRHE892/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1482645105&sr=8-3&keywords=logitech+mice

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Daedalus-Performance-Gaming-910-004380/dp/B00TKFD51M/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1482645105&sr=8-11&keywords=logitech+mice

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Gaming-Advanced-Sensor-Competitive/dp/B01JPOLLTK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482645118&sr=8-1&keywords=logitech+mice+pro

Make sure you download steam for all your gaming needs. There are alternatives, but since you are newer to PC I highly recommend using steam as your main platform. Also they are having an awesome winter sale right now! Perfect time to pick up games at super cheap.

http://store.steampowered.com/

I highly recommend turning off "enhanced pointer precision" which is normally turned on by default on windows machines.

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/enhance-pointer-precision-windows

I would also ensure that your computer is using the "balanced" power save option.

http://www.howtogeek.com/240840/should-you-use-the-balanced-power-saver-or-high-performance-power-plan-on-windows/

I recommend getting good, preferably free, anti-virus. Everyone has their own preferences. I use Avast. Just avoid McAfee.

https://www.avast.com/en-us/index

Picking up a new browser, so you don't use internet explorer, is a good idea. I recommend google chrome because it has enough built in features where you don't need to be "in the know" to get what you need out of it.

https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/index.html?brand=CHBD&gclid=CjwKEAiA1vjCBRDd-9q3w4OF6WUSJACWv_sVbfPzq9MQuEXf_fjyvJqASfE7B5R_9B7d6mLscUpprxoCj8Xw_wcB&dclid=CN360ufXjtECFZFFAQodU78Etw

If you do pick up google chrome, you should pick up an add blocker for it as well. Blocks advertisements everywhere and stops you from having to watch advertisements at the beginning of youtube videos.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/adblock/gighmmpiobklfepjocnamgkkbiglidom?hl=en-US

And to wrap it up I'd download the battle.net launcher from blizzard. Blizzard has lots of very good games, like overwatch, hearthstone, wow, etc.

http://us.battle.net/en/app/

I personally use a program called f.lux which makes your monitor more friendly for your eyes at night. It makes it easier to fall asleep after being on your PC late at night. I highly recommend using this if you game at night.

https://justgetflux.com/

Now just find some games you want to play. Here are some of the most popular games on PC(based on players playing the game at the moment). That I would recommend. Everyone has their own preferences, and sorry if I'm explaining this like you know nothing. I'm not sure what information you are looking for exactly or your knowledge level.

Battle Net Games

Overwatch(Multiplayer PVP focus - fantastic FPS highly recommend)

Hearthstone(free to play card game - if you like trading card games play this!)

Steam Games

Skyrim(Single Player)

Witcher(Single Player)

Total War: WARHAMMER(Strategy Game)

Civilization 6(Strategy Game)

Terraria(2d Minecraft)

Paladins(PVP Free to play game)

Path Of Exile(Free to play Diablo2 like game)

Rust(Multiplayer Survival game)

Ark(Multiplayer dinosaur survival game)

Stardew Valley(Top down run your own farm RPG game, think Harvest Moon)

Dark Souls 1,2,3(Hardcore mostly singleplayer action RPG)

War Thunder(Free to play WW2 plane/tank PVP game, multiplayer)

Binding of Isaac: Rebirth(roguelike, top down like old zelda games - highly recommend this game)

Cities: Skylines(better version of Sim city)

Rainbow Six Siege( tactical FPS pvp, multiplayer)

Stand Alone Games That Don't Use A Launcher

Minecraft

League Of Legends

League Of Legends is one of the most played games in the world, competing against overwatch. It is called a MOBA, you've probably heard of it, and it's at least worth checking out if you have a friend to play with.

edit: Also finding a headset is very important, I always point to HyperX headsets if you need a microphone to talk to people. They are comfortable, sound good, and won't break the bank. If you don't need a mic just pick up a nice pair of sennheiser headphones. Also sorry for any grammar issues and just the wall of text. I just started typing and kept going. If you have any questions feel free to ask, hope you like your pc!

There are many great mice on the market in your price range, but there's a lot of information (and marketing) to sift through. I hope this post helps.

The most important part of a mouse is its sensor, which is responsible for maintaining 1:1 tracking at all speeds. As of today (2015-01-17) the best sensors are the 3366, 3310, and S3989; this limits your choices significantly but ensures that you will be getting the best mouse possible. Below are some mice and information (and my own, biased thoughts) about them. Ultimately, you will have to decide on a mouse based on your own set of priorities and needs / wants.

First, the Razer DeathAdder Chroma. This is a 5-button right-handed ergonomic mouse with a good sensor, acceptable weight, and RGB lighting. However, the top edges are oddly shaped, there are rubber side grips, you have to use the Razer Synapse software, the clicks are extremely light (causing some people to accidentally misclick), it has a braided cable (frays), and Razer is known for its extremely poor quality control. A good mouse, certainly, but there are major flaws which prevent me from recommending this mouse.

Logitech mice are known for their excellent build quality and high-quality sensors, but they are oddly-shaped. The Logitech mice to consider are the G303 and G502 (there's an updated G502 with RGB lighting, too). Both of these mice use the 3366 sensor, which is slightly better than the 3310. Based on shape alone, however, I can't recommend these mice. The G303 is very small, and the G502 is heavy and awkwardly-shaped and such that I would accidentally click the two front side buttons. They also come with a braided cable (frays) and require software for configuration.

Next is the SteelSeries Rival 300. RGB lighting, 5 buttons, light weight, etc., but has a rubber side grip and uses software. The new revision supposedly fixed the wear issues with the rubber side, so there's nothing really wrong with this mouse, but I think there are better options.

The FinalMouse 2016 is simply a 3310 sensor in a cheap OEM shell - I'd look elsewhere. They're coming out with the "Tournament Pro" and "Scream One" editions, but I wouldn't have high hopes for these.

The Ducky Secret is an interesting one, but largely untested and unreviewed. Ducky is known for their high-quality mechanical keyboards (I'm typing this on a Ducky Shine 3), but this is their first mouse. Good sensor, RGB lighting, separate left and right buttons, a shell made of PBT (higher-quality plastic), Omron switches in all buttons, even the thumb buttons (but not rated for as many clicks as other mice). Could be great, but it's a bit of a gamble, especially considering how many well-known and well-tested other mice already exist.

Finally, I'll cover the Zowie mice. All of these mice are driverless (no software needed; all adjustments are made with a button on the bottom of the mouse), which is certainly a plus when it comes to ease of use, but they lack the flashy features of many "flagship" mice, like custom RGB lighting. All Zowie Mice use the same sensor (3310) and have 5 buttons (left, right, middle up/down/click, and two thumb buttons). Each type comes in two or three different sizes, as indicated my the number after the model name. The ambidextrous mice (ZA for palm grip and FK for claw grip) have two buttons on each side, but only one set can be used at a time. The EC mice are right-handed ergonomic mice. None of them have rubber side grips or braided cables, and all of them are very light. However, they are known for using Huano switches rather than Omrons (so the left and right buttons are a little harder to click) but there is a new revision with Omron switches. Speaking of revisions, this seems to be the Zowie business model: small revisions every 6 months or so. Questionable, but they do offer excellent mice.

Those are all of the major players in the gaming mouse market, but there are others (Mionix, Roccat, CoolerMaster, Corsair) that you may want to look into. There's a lot more depth than I've covered here (grip type, sensor implementations, lift-off distance, etc.) but this should give you an overview of the most popular choices. Keep in mind that this is not in any way an objective set of reviews; these are all my opinions and may not apply to your tastes. Additionally, I've been pretty harsh and picky, but these really are all great mice.

After all of my research, I chose and now use a Zowie EC1-A (late 2015 version, before the BenQ re-brand and Omron update), and couldn't be happier.

logitech g303 daedalus apex. Small, with programmable buttons. and it's on sale everywhere right now.

This one!

I really dig it, it clicks really nicely and fits my stupidly small hand.

Did you ever look at the Logitech G303 Daedalus? It's one of the smallest, lightest fingertip mice I found with an exceptional optical sensor (PMW3366), which makes it really great for gaming.

$188 on Amazon in the states. https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-PlayStation-4/dp/B014US02ZA

I picked up the T150 thrustmaster force feedback wheel for $160. Not quite as good as the G29 but gets the job done at almost half the price.
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-PlayStation-4/dp/B014US02ZA

Thrustmaster T150 FFB Wheel comes with a set of cheap pedals. You can sometimes find it on sale for under $200. It is a PS4 wheel, that is also compatible with PC. https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-PlayStation-4/dp/B014US02ZA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1518146633&sr=8-2&keywords=t150&th=1

They also make the model TMX that is for XBOX and PC. also $200 https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-racing-wheel-WINDOWS/dp/B01CI97DNM/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1518146633&sr=8-6&keywords=t150

The thrustmaster T150RS is a good starter wheel, and it's $179 on Amazon. I have owned it for 3-4 years and have yet to have a problem. https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Racing-PlayStation4-PlayStation3-playstation-2/dp/B014US02ZA

Project Cars is a good game to show off VR, I was actually playing around with it last night.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/234630/

You might be able to find it cheaper via other sites.

As for the wheel I would recommend at least a Thrustmaster T150. The T300 is way better but also considerably more expensive. This is a solid wheel that is at least somewhat affordable.

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-PlayStation-4/dp/B014US02ZA/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1473349087&sr=1-1&keywords=thrustmaster+t150

Cheapest one with Force Feedback is around $200.

You can get this one or this one.

Both work for PC.

> ... having a structure in my living room that looks like half a go kart is contrary to the freedom that VR offers

That's not the purpose of VR though: The purpose of VR is to simulate an experience as accurately as possible. So, for example:

• If you were playing a VR game that simulated being in an empty room, then playing it in a real-life empty room would be ideal.
  
• If you were playing a VR game that simulated being in a car, then playing it in a cockpit would be idea.
  
  So the "ideal" room for VR depends entirely on the type of game you're playing it. Heck, if you were playing a VR game that simulated swimming, then a room with a swimming pool would be ideal.
  
  Anyway, the cheapest possible PS4 wheel you can get that is worth owning is the Thrustmaster T150:
  
  https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B014US02ZA/
  

First thing first. Why would you want to spend a fortune on a shifter instead of getting better pedals or the wheel?

I'd rather suggest get G27 or even G29 or G920 for as low as you can get, in this case and buy a better pedal set like Fanatec CSL Elite rather than the shifter that costs the same. IMHO, it's pointless to spend a fortune on a shifter in this case when you can get far more important things like pedals.

Being in your situation I would do the following:

buy Thrustmaster T150 on Amazon

buy Fanatec CSL Elite pedals

P.S. don't forget that shipping costs and import tax applies when you order Fanatec in Canada. I bought the whole set (Fanatec CSW v2.5, Formula Black rim, ClubSport v3 pedals, Brake performance kit) and had to pay a about $200 for shipping and about the same for the import tax.

I ordered this Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas 4 Flight Stick
and this Thrustmaster VG T150.

I like that they'll be compatible with both Vive and Oculus and, since I have a PS4 and plan on getting PSVR, they should be compatible with the PS4 too. Very rare to find hardware compatibility across the board like that.

This one is good for $200.

http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-PlayStation-4/dp/B014US02ZA

A review from Inside Sim Racing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJoZyCWUhDs

edit: I think I linked the wrong wheel, fixed. So that pricezombie thing is for another wheel.

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Racing-PlayStation4-PlayStation3-playstation-2/dp/B014US02ZA/ref=pd_cart_vw_crc_1_2/143-0195468-4173650?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B014US02ZA&pd_rd_r=ede26c3a-ec21-4d81-a5b2-d21b4e3421e0&pd_rd_w=Kfi3v&pd_rd_wg=40FWE&pf_rd_p=aa9f3def-b8ac-4b15-aa4b-c6a8313c2f5e&pf_rd_r=00P29C9MKR8QTGRGVX1N&psc=1&refRID=00P29C9MKR8QTGRGVX1N

here is the amazon link, its new. Also i fell like the pedals on the logitech would be better but if you say so.

Well, barely: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Dual-motor-Feedback-Responsive-PlayStation/dp/B00Z0UWWYC/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1527736261&sr=8-5&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=thrustmaster+t150&dpPl=1&dpID=41HFwIn650L&ref=plSrch

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-PlayStation-4/dp/B014US02ZA/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1527736261&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=thrustmaster+t150&dpPl=1&dpID=517SecDrovL&ref=plSrch

I know that the G29 is a good wheel, but I don't know about the Thrustmaster T150, but it would fit your budget.

I just grabbed mine a few days ago for this reason. I made a post about a good deal on amazon for a Thrustmaster T150. It's still going on if you're interested.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B014US02ZA/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all

Keep in mind its a third party seller with no reviews, but it's covered my Amazons A to Z guarantee. It's the seller that has it listed for $130

The wheel stand itself is like $120. The wheel and pedals have a huge range based on what you get. You might get something ok on eBay for like $125-175 but if you want a new wheel that's pretty cheap then this one is good for $200. There are wheels under that cost by they just aren't good enough in my opinion. Above that price there are wheels of all sorts of costs up to many thousands of dollars.

This is the one I eventually settled on:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014US02ZA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

200 bucks for a decent-ish FFB wheel. Outside of finding a crazy windfall deal, this was the best price I could find without compromising too much quality and including FFB. I've been using it on Dirt Rally and I think its great for its price.

Thrustmaster T150 for $130
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014US02ZA?ref_=sr_1_8&s=videogames&qid=1480000547&sr=1-8&keywords=g29&pldnSite=1

I know it's not the answer you were looking for, but I personally wouldn't recommend a wheel without force feedback. You're really driving sort of "blind" without it.

Cheapest alternative I know of is the Thrustmaster T150.

Ok so if they are using the Brook USB converter then in theory you could also make use of their model that converts PS3/PS4 peripherals to the xbox one. I know that the PS4 has a decent flight stick available:

https://www.amazon.ca/THRUSTMASTER-TMST4169083-Playstation4-T-Flight-Thunder/dp/B015PJ68BK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484271119&sr=8-1&keywords=ps4+flight+stick

Someone with more money than me should test this out so we can all jump on the HOTAS bandwagon.

Might I suggest you instead consider the Thrustmaster Hotas T.Flight 4, which is essentially the same as the older X model but with a tighter dead zone and upgradable firmware.

It's about $8 more than the Hotas X, but newer, better dead zone, upgradable firmware, still under $50, and has the great reputation of the Hotas X behind it too. And it works great with Elite. Here's a reddit thread on the detailed differences between the two joysticks.

Might get this for it....

http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B015PJ68BK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_XpoxxbV0NF39T

If I purchase the HOTAS 4 - https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-playstation-4/dp/B015PJ68BK

What do I use instead of the pedals? I really want to get pedals for it, but they are apparently hard to find and more expensive than the HOTAS4 for some reason. So I'm really curious on

1. What do you use instead of the pedals
   
   
2. How does it feel without the pedals? Is it worth it to buy the HOTAS4 and then maybe one day get pedals for it
   
   Thanks in advance anyone who can answer this for me!

This probably is the cheapest HOTAS you could get: https://www.amazon.in/dp/B015PJ68BK

I've used the old PS3 version of this. Pretty good. Throttle wasn't that great though. It had an annoying notch right at the middle which meant precise adjustments weren't easy. Not sure if the newer version changed it.

I don't have a HOTAS, but from lurking on the forums/doing some research,) the Thrustmaster HOTAS 4 is the only one to work on the PS4.

I've never used it, but there is a HOTAS that is compatible/made for the PS4. There's one game that uses it right now. It'll be up to Frontier if the want to design the game to use joystick support.

Flight stick

I had a gift card for Amazon so I ended up getting this

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-playstation-4/dp/B015PJ68BK

It snaps apart so I could always move it around or whatever. Everything is right handed apparently any way. And I didn't want to get a refurbished or used 3D pro. Plus I also have a PS4 so if anything ever comes out for it, I'll have compatibility. The PS4 is better than my computer so here's to hoping.

I did a quick google search:

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-playstation-4/dp/B015PJ68BK

http://www.thrustmaster.com/en_US/products/tflight-rudder-pedals

It is very likely this will support it.
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-playstation-4/dp/B015PJ68BK/

One of the mods stated it "should". But I'd wait for confirmation on that. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/313806-HOTAS-Support?p=4887079

This is a good starter flight stick that actually works amazingly well.

Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS 4

Thrustmaster just released another HOTAS set that is getting pretty good reviews. There used to be a huge gap between the $50 and $200 segment. Any HOTAS within that range were too expensive and too crappy to even consider. So for anyone who wanted something a little more versatile had to make the huge jump to something in the hundreds of dollars. Thrustmaster seems to have fixed that.

Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS Controller

Past this, I personally would recommend CH Products. Pretty pricey and, honestly, not much to look at. But what you really pay for is absolute durability, longevity, and versatility. CH Products has been building HOTAS systems for decades now, and there's people who still have their original sticks and throttles, but just rewired the old joystick ports to USB, and they still friggin' work. I have the Fighterstick USB, and the Pro Throttle USB.

Just bought the ps4 one at best buy today
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-Stick-PS4/dp/B015PJ68BK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482985967&sr=8-1&keywords=thrustmaster+hotas+ps4

The hotas x seems to be the more popular option but one of the reviews on the ps4 one said there was more degrees of freedom for movement. I haven't used it yet but I'm sure you can't go wrong with the cheaper stick.

I assume instead of GTE you mean the T300 RS GT Edition.

This is the T300 RS GTE, and $400 is not a good price for it.

The difference is the GT Edition has better pedals than the GTE.

re: The T150. There is the Pro version that has the 3 pedal set, but it's currently unavailable on Amazon.

You can also get a separate 3 pedal set like the T3PA, or some refurbished G27 Pedals and the Leo Bodnar Adapter.

For a budget first-time wheel, maybe look second-hand? The G29 is mechanically exactly the same as the G27, and the G27 can normally be picked up for c. $200 or less second-hand.

Also bear in mind, the G29 does not come with a shifter, but the G27 does. If you want a shifter for the G29 you'll need to spend probably a minimum of c. $60 for the Logitech Shifter. However, the Logitech Shifter is pretty shit, so you might be better off getting at least the TH8A.

What's he difference between the G29, T150 and T300?

If you're comparing all the 3 pedal set versions, then the pedals are all virtually equal.

The difference is mainly FFB.

The G29 FFB is fine, but has a noticable deadzone at the top and can sometime feel a little bit notchy.

The T300 FFB is smoother, faster, stronger and quieter than the G29 and has virtually no deadzone. It's significantly better, but maybe not $150 better (depends on what it's worth to you).

I've been told the T150 FFB is somewhat between the G29 and T300, but I've not tried it myself.

> Thrustmaster T300 RS wheel

That sounds great - I like Thrustmaster's quality. I've been using their A10 HOTAS for flight sim for a while now.

Does this combo seem like the right wheel + pedals even though it says it's Gran Turismo edition for PS4?

not OP but I just got the Thrustmaster T300 RS GT for 200 + tax on amazon. Its list price is 400 but it keeps dipping to 200. You might get lucky if you keep an eye on it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M1L2NRL/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I haven't tried the T300, but the G920 was nice.

For the prices, (according to CamelCamelCamel, a price tracker for Amazon) the T300 is at a historical low, while the G920 was cheaper just a few weeks ago (even with the Prime discount).

https://camelcamelcamel.com/Logitech-Dual-Motor-Feedback-Driving-Responsive/product/B00Z0UWV98?context=search

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https://camelcamelcamel.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/product/B01M1L2NRL?context=search

Try for a T300 RS GT IMHO. Will give you the option to expand into H-shifter driving down the road easily by buying a TH8A shifter.

According to CamelCamelCamel, it fell as low as $240 briefly on Amazon last December but anything $300 and under is a pretty good deal basically, and I think it's hit $270 repeatedly.

You should be able to get the T300RS GT for cheaper than $400.

I got the Ferrari version for less than the $400 a week ago on Newegg (it was down to 389 before any coupons or anything).

You can always use the Camelizer to check it's historical prices on Amazon.

https://camelcamelcamel.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/product/B01M1L2NRL?active=price_new&context=home_recent

A copy of what i sent to one user, but my recommendation still stands:

If you end up buying a joystick one day, I strongly urge you to look for Thrustmaster 16000, or for something with the equivalent of Thrustmaster's HALL effect. It really IS really-really nice. Because with whatever game you end up playing, you may end up using only a few buttons, but the joystick part of it will always be there, so THAT'S what you want to be top notch.

And I may be repeating myself, but that HALL effect is what they use in the pretty much highest end Warthog Joysticks and HOTAS, ones that go for $300+, so even though the buttons and the build itself of the 16000 is the same as of the other joysticks in the 30-50$, the action part of its is way above it's level.

Here's an Amazon link to the pre-order of the new version of the joystick by itself:

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-VG-T16000M-FCS-Joystick-Black/dp/B01MQEDEEW/ref=sr_1_10?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1479623136&sr=1-10&keywords=thrustmaster+joystick

They're 59.99 on Amazon.

Thrustmaster T16000M FCS https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MQEDEEW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_TTJsDbV6M9SFR


Theres a Kit that gives you the stick and throttle, that's $129.99.

Thrustmaster VG T16000M FCS Joystick, Black - PC https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MQEDEEW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_19UeAbXQZDW1B

Some "higher end" links for you:

• Ch Throttle -- IMO still the best throttle until VKB/Virpil
  
• MFG Crosswind
  
• VKB
  
• Virpil - great dual stick options here. I liked VKB just a tad more, like the additional button more on VKB. But Virpil has other things going for it too. Like better service!
  
• X56 Lotitech - make sure its the latest version, not saitek crap ... even re-branded saitek to logitech. Logitech recently released an update. QA is a huge issue with X56 range.
  
  Don't use this for E:D Warthog that is my 2c worth. Its maybe looks all metal but has some plastic internals and really is not for space flight sims. Allot of people bitch about the nipple on the throttle. So just my opinion that you should not look at it.
  
  On the lower end:
  
  
• Thrustmaster T 16000 etc. I have no experience with it. But people like it.
  
• X360 controllers etc. some people love it.
  
• Mouse and Keybaord -- PvP players swear by it!
  
  Happy stick hunting, fly safe CMDR o7!
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

I'd go with the [T16000M FCS](Thrustmaster T16000M FCS https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MQEDEEW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_oLPvCbGXEZ1HX) for $40 ATM

It's got the same sensors as the Thrustmaster Warthog stick, and the magnetic sensors feel better to me in general. As others have mentioned, this game has a ton of keybinds so as much as I like dedicated throttles, I find myself getting annoyed going back and forth from it to the keyboard.

That said if you don't think you'll mind switching back and forth, I'd recommend the [hotas combo that includes this stick](Thrustmaster T16000M FCS HOTAS https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KCHPRXA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_5SPvCbKVNA2QA).

Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS is the only one I'm pretty sure.

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-16000M-FCS-HOTAS-Controller/dp/B01KCHPRXA/

EDIT: Here's it with just the stick, because the throttle doesn't look like it'd be too useful with your right hand

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T16000M-FCS-Joystick-Black/dp/B01MQEDEEW/

Flying with dual joysticks (and pedals) feels awesome! I got a T16000m FCS plus a T16000m FCS Flight Pack and only use the sticks and the pedal right now

I am gonna configure my setup in a way that I can switch from hosas to hotas when I am not in combat to be able to fly around more relaxed. It should be pretty easy to set up if I play around with the Target software some more.

The first time setting up dual joysticks was pretty tedious. I used TheNOOBIFIER1337's Playlist and the several reddit posts as an inspiration and finally decided to set them up more or less like in this video
To keep my desk uncluttered and my KB/M close I made a setup like this one!. Here are some more Images.

Oh hey, I own that joystick! It's old and has huge problems with y-axis, but it was a trusty joystick.

Anyway, depending on how well you can touch type, you could even use KB/M.

I run dual stick - the attack 3 in left hand for thrusters, and in my right a t16000m, works great. (though my t16000m is green/grey, older version, the new one looks like it would be easier to use in VR, and is ED colored). You could also try buying the throttle and using your old joystick

green one

orange one

Orange one is newer, but is the same basic stick. Has some bumps and insets on the buttons on the base of the stick so you don't have to look down to confirm where your fingers are. They also added some texture to the buttons on the top of the stick for better grip there.

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-VG-T16000M-FCS-Joystick-Black/dp/B01MQEDEEW/ref=pd_sim_147_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=2R4M0N4CN75NMYSD7ST8

dot has better quality, i think the dot is actually a newer version of the dash one.

Here are links:

T-16000M

T.16000M

T.16000M With Throttle Included

CH FighterStick

Currently looking for my first mechanical keyboard. I've looked at the wiki, but there's so much information I'm honestly a bit overwhelmed.

At the moment I've narrowed my choice to a full keyboard with brown switches. I think I'd like full RGB customization as well.

I have $125 to Amazon, so am focusing my search there. Anyone have any suggestions? Can a be a bit more than the 125 if it's really worth the money. Thanks!

Is something like this a good keyboard?
https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K556-Mechanical-Keyboard-Aluminum/dp/B01NAI2TXC/ref=sr_1_25?ie=UTF8&qid=1511835084&sr=8-25&keywords=mechanical+keyboard

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K556-Mechanical-Keyboard-Aluminum/dp/B01NAI2TXC


$60, Nice sturdy aluminum frame, brown switch, full size, and feels fantastic.

rgb can be turned off and adjusted via software. use it every day and love it. they're a pretty popular entry level mechanical keyboard that's extremely hard to beat because at $60 they sell every switch type and they feel fantastic. Hell they had a compact red switch keyboard for $30. if you want others just head to amazon and Seach "Redragon red switch" or whatever else

GMMK TKL. It's a little more than what you're looking for but totally worth it. You could check out Red Dragon keyboard as well.. they don't have great switches but are just fine and will get you by.

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K556-Mechanical-Keyboard-Aluminum/dp/B01NAI2TXC

You can remove the switches on this board I believe. You can install different switches when you're ready.

They have a TKL for like $44 as well.

Have you loooked at ReDragon Devarajas ? Cheap,great build quality,great doubleshot keycaps,brown switches from Outemu,replacable.
https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K556-Mechanical-Keyboard-Aluminum/dp/B01NAI2TXC


I had it for some time,but went with a 75% one for fun and stopped using the bigger one. Was hard fore to sell it even tho I kept it in a box for over 5 months,because when I took it out to clean it I remembered how great it was. 10/10 would buy again if I needed a budget ,100% board .

I bought and returned 3 or 4 keyboards until I found this one. It's a mechanical with three switch options (drown blue and red I think) and every key has it's own RGB LED and can change color independent of the others. It's well worth the money in my opinion.


Redragon K556 RGB LED Backlit... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NAI2TXC?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

A buddy of mine has one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K556-Mechanical-Keyboard-Aluminum/dp/B01NAI2TXC/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1493813794&sr=8-4&keywords=redragon+rgb

For the price it is pretty sweet. The bottom is plastic, so its not all aluminum. Minimal bezel and brown switches. They also have a TKL variant as well somewhere.

This isn't the best board in the world, but for around $50 it's not bad. It should come with cherry brown equivalents, so it'll be quiet.

Your English is quite good :)

I wouldn't really recommend the three options that you listed as they aren't really the best value for the money (especially so with the Logitech and the Corsair). Instead, I'd recommend either the GMMK or the Redragon K556, mainly because both of these keyboards have the ability to pull out the keyswitches and replace them with new ones, which can be extremely useful for both longevity purposes and for customizing your keyboard to your liking. The Redragon would be a good value conscious option, while the GMMK is the better choice for pulling out keyswitches, as the GMMK seems to have a wider range of compatibility versus the Redragon.

Also, unless you're specifically a fan of memchanical keyboards, I wouldn't recommend the CM Masterset, as they don't come close to replicating what an actual mechanical keyboard feels like.

Yes. My opinion: get openvr advanced settings on github, turn signal on steam, vr covers 6mm pleather foam, a deluxe audio strap if you don't already have one, and learn about supersampling (unless you have a weak GPU). I've had a Vive since April 2016.

https://github.com/matzman666/OpenVR-AdvancedSettings/blob/master/Readme.md

https://github.com/matzman666/OpenVR-AdvancedSettings/releases

http://store.steampowered.com/app/689580/TurnSignal/

https://vrcover.com/product/htc-vive-foam-replacement-6mm/

https://www.amazon.com/HTC-Vive-Deluxe-Audio-Strap-pc/dp/B06Y2GDXMC

Htc vive website:

HTC Vive Deluxe Audio Strap https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y2GDXMC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_u6ZkDb2BY0EZ1

Welcome to the superior comfort of the vive. Now on quest!

The DAS is $99 on Amazon, this video explains how to install it.

https://www.amazon.com/HTC-Vive-Deluxe-Audio-Strap/dp/B06Y2GDXMC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496758505&sr=8-1&keywords=htc+deluxe+audio+strap
I'd sign up for alerts with MS and Amazon rather than pay the ridiculous shipping premium.

https://www.amazon.ca/HTC-99HAMR001-00-Deluxe-Audio-Strap/dp/B06Y2GDXMC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496811997&sr=8-1&keywords=vive+deluxe+audio

you can always sign up for e-mail alert from Amazon to let you know when it is available. (https://www.amazon.com/HTC-Vive-Deluxe-Audio-Strap/dp/B06Y2GDXMC/)

I'd guess around $105.

Deluxe audio strap $100 + 3M command velcro strips $5

https://www.amazon.com/HTC-Vive-Deluxe-Audio-Strap-pc/dp/B06Y2GDXMC

https://www.amazon.com/Command-Picture-Hanging-4-Pairs-17207-ES/dp/B004054NSQ/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=command+strip+velcro&qid=1558608942&s=gateway&sr=8-10

It's back in stock on Amazon, at least for now! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y2GDXMC

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1337111-REG/htc_99hamr001_00_vive_deluxe_audio_strap.html



https://www.amazon.com/HTC-Vive-Deluxe-Audio-Strap/dp/B06Y2GDXMC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1496201311&sr=8-3&keywords=vive+strap

Depends on what you want to spend. Look up reviews on these if that's what you want. I just strapped a battery bank with velcro to the back to counter balance I then wear a baseball cap backwards underneath and just got a new face cover and just those feels great to me and minimal cost. I already owned the battery bank and cap. You could use anything with weight though. Or like I said check reviews for the following...

There is a halo strap https://www.goquestvr.com/index.php/product/halo-strap/

The Frankenquest https://www.amazon.com/HTC-Vive-Deluxe-Audio-Strap-pc/dp/B06Y2GDXMC/ref=as_li_ss_tl?tag=vrmediaproduc-20&keywords=htc+vive+deluxe+audio+strap&qid=1560896762&s=gateway&sr=8-1&linkId=49d2dfcb3477ed9031a20d9de9149d85&language=en_US

HTC Vive Deluxe Audio Strap https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y2GDXMC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_vh6QDbJFKXWY6

Vive owner for a year and a half. What I've gotten on an as-needed basis over that time is:

Vive n Chill

Dog leash and carabiners

Silicone wand covers

and the DAS

in addition to cheap tripods to mount the lighthouses on to begin with, etc.

A little review on my 5K XR:

The headstrap is really s**t - cannot emphasise this enough. It is easily solved with the HTC Vive Deluxe Audio strap

HTC Vive Audio Strap

That requires a person with a 3D printer to make you three pieces, one for the top and one for each side.

Now we have something that works, but the faceplate is also s**t, so again, in steps HTC Vive:

Vive Cover

So now you want to know how it works, given that I am not experiencing pain just having the headset on?

I upgraded to the PIMAX from the Oculus CV1.

I have mainly used it for DCS, but have done a few sessions in IL2. I have an NVIDIA 2080TI, and I really would not spend the money on the headset if you cannot afford the graphics card, so that's about 2 grand american right there, net whatever pennies you can get for your Oculus and 1080.

So, now how does it work? - I got violently sick with the normal and wide FOV, just like in my parents' car as a child. The side view flashes past and made me sick.

I then changed to narrow view, and everything was fine, at least for me. I have friends who are happy in both normal and wide.

The cockpit is a lot clearer than with the Rift. With a reversed baseball cap under the straps, I can now tighten them enough that I can dogfight with no headset movement, even with a headset on top, which is an improvement on the Rift.

So my conclusion is, after a lot of farting around with both the strap and the graphics settings (PTool, DCS etc.), it is a huge improvement over the Rift and has made my DCS experience materially more immersive.

However, if you want a plug and play device, then this is definitely not for you, even if you have the two grand lying around.

[16AGR]Durham out.

B2P is NOT F2P.

The link to purchase a ps4 digital code is here.

To everyone salty about the $40 on PC price tag:

It's only $40 on BLIZZARD'S OWN STORE. Everywhere else it's $60. This is because no one else is taking a cut of the sale when it's sold on Blizzard's own store.

If people want to be mad about it, be mad at Sony/Microsoft/Amazon for taking such a MASSIVE cut of every sale. BTW, the cut is likely more than $20.

You can order the origins edition off Amazon w/20% Off, just create a trial account and order it.

Because your in Indonesia this advice might not apply too you, but I'll share it just in case.

If you have amazon prime you can get Overwatch Origin for $47.99. So it's only $8 more than if the basic version. For $8 you can't beat all the extras.

Amazon Prime: Overwatch Origin

If you can't do that. I don't think paying $20 more, for in your case, just one skin would be worth it to get Origin. So just go with basic.

Normally I wait for a price drop on games, but this is the first game in a long time I just went ahead and bought it. It takes a really long time before you see price drops on Blizzard stuff. And the amount of fun I think I'll get from this game is well worth the cost.

Hope that helps!

Well if you have the money for it

http://www.amazon.in/Overwatch-Origins-Edition-Digital-Code/dp/B017L187YG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469860256&sr=8-1&keywords=Overwatch

They have COD.

Yes there are. Amazon, Best Buy, GameStop from a few quick searches.

Also, this announcement isn't PC-only, it's all copies of the game.

> It goes both ways... Console users et to pay $60 for Overwatch while you guys pay $40.

I know it might have been on sale while you saw it...but this seems to be a bit different from what you're saying

Origins Edition has been $20 off for a few days for all platforms.

You can get a Visa gift card from pretty much any retail store, but depending on the store it can be difficult to buy if you're under 18 (can be used for money laundering, so lots of places ID). It also usually has a ~$3 activation fee. You can also try finding a Battlenet gift card, or even an Amazon gift card, which you can use to get Overwatch origins.

Overwatch Origins Edition is currently $39.99 on Amazon right now, which is the same price as the standard edition on Battle.net. You'll get some extra skins and it's a physical copy.

If anyone is looking for a good deal on a last-minute preorder, Amazon has the Origins edition for $49 ($48 for Prime members).

Overwatch counts.

found one https://www.amazon.com/Mayflash-F300-Arcade-Fight-Joystick/dp/B019MFPLC0

Yup it's available on Steam! I'm actually on PC myself.

If you're interested, this is the stick I bought.

There's an infographic that puts the previous version of this stick in shit tier, so don't get confused. This new one is supposed to be great for newbies since it doesn't break the bank, and it can be modded with Sanwa parts easily.

I don't have any experience with fighting sticks, but it feels great to me. If I do my inputs purposefully, it all registers the way I expect so that's probably a good sign.

Get this instead:

http://www.amazon.com/F300-Mayflash-Arcade-Fight-Joystick/dp/B019MFPLC0?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

I just got it today in the mail and it's not bad. Definitely needs to be modded and the reviews say you can do that easily.

Have you looked at the [Qanba Q1] (https://www.amazon.com/Qanba-Q1-PS3-Joystick-Fightstick/dp/B00BXPIO1S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1466178293&sr=8-1&keywords=qanba+q1) or the [F300 Mayflash] (https://www.amazon.com/F300-Mayflash-Arcade-Fight-Joystick/dp/B019MFPLC0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1466178349&sr=8-1&keywords=mayflash+fightstick) ?

These were the two that I was looking at before upping my budget to the Qanba Q4 RAF.

I think they're able to upgrade to sanwa buttons and levers but unable to change the panel artwork without printing out a massive sticker.

If you don't want to spend a lot the Mayflash F300 isn't bad.
https://www.amazon.com/F300-Mayflash-Arcade-Fight-Joystick/dp/B019MFPLC0

I use https://www.amazon.com/Mayflash-F300-Arcade-Fight-Joystick/dp/B019MFPLC0 . I replaced the buttons and stick with sanwa parts. My only complaint is that it's a bit lighter than I would like it.

If you want one for dreamcast I have no clue, so sorry about that.

Edit: I added links to Amazon products that are pretty nice and fit into your budget, if none of these work or you wanted advice on finding similar ones on slightly cheaper budgets just let me know and I'd love to help out!

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I realize some people like them, and I mean no disrespect to u/MNLegoBoy but please do not get him a steam controller. I own one and me and everyone I've ever known who used one absolutely hated it.

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If he only has one monitor in his setup I would highly suggest getting him a decent second monitor to have discord, youtube, or whatever else he wants up while he plays. It can be really helpful and never hurts to have.

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If that doesn't work, you know about his setup...

and he uses a headset with a built-in mic I would suggest getting him this microphone and this interface. Even though they're cheap they're more than good enough and make people feel more legit because they're more like a streamer setup.

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and he really likes his headphones/has really nice headphones but doesn't have a headphone stand or mount for him to keep his headphones on and keep his desk organized.

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and he's into fighting games or older arcade games you could get him a fighting stick (be careful on this one, if he doesn't have room or likes using his KBM I wouldn't suggest it. It might also help to get one on a higher budget.)

The Mayflash F300 is super cheap and really durable and comes with great parts- nothing beats this within that price range and many people start off w/ the F300 due to these reasons; it's an overall great stick and has an amazing price.

The F300 has a newer version though which is the F500 it's about $30 more expensive, but the case itself is a bit bigger so it sits on the lap easier(also better for people with bigger hands) and has some metal plates on the top and bottom which means more durability and just feels more premium. It also includes more features than the F300 such as: a headphone jack(apple?) and a much easier artwork change option. Hopefully this helps, but you should also watch some YouTube vids about budget fightsticks as theres tons of content about those :)

https://www.amazon.com/Mayflash-F300-Arcade-Joystick-SWITCH/dp/B019MFPLC0

Well with fightsticks it’s safe to say go big or go home because most cheap ones are garbage but this one is a special circumstance. You’ll probably eventually upgrade it or upgrade to a new one but if you don’t do either of those things it will last you a super long time!

Yeah, no problem. I'd recommend this one because it works with almost every platform: Mayflash F300 Arcade Fight Stick Joystick for PS4 PS3 XBOX ONE 360 PC https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019MFPLC0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_.tMBzbMDPRS5F

What u/Deev12 said is absolutely true.

However, if you're looking for semi-casual gaming, 8bitdo just put out their NES30 bluetooth joystick (the only bluetooth stick around, AFAIK) and it's very decent. The buttons are easily swapped out with Sanwa/Seimitsu parts if the need arises, though the stick is not, and it works with PC/Mac/Linux, as well as Wii/U and Switch and any of their NES and SNES retro adapters.

Mayflash also makes some relatively cheap, moddable sticks, including this one, which supports PS1/PS2 in addition to PC (though this one is harder to mod than their more modern sticks, I think).

https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Stick-Mini-PlayStation-4/dp/B014KXMEW4

https://www.amazon.com/Mad-Catz-FightStick-PlayStation4-PlayStation3/dp/B018HXA6H8

https://www.amazon.com/Mayflash-F300-Arcade-Fight-Joystick/dp/B019MFPLC0/

http://www.eightarc.com/drone/

Absolutely. I use the Mayflash F300. Great customizable universal stick at a great price. You'll probably want a new stick and restrictor right off the bat.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B019MFPLC0

I use this keyboard https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-KUMARA-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B019O9BLVY?th=1
Its the Redragon Kumura, it has RGB Lighting and Blue Mechanical Switches. Its definitely worth the $45 price tag, plus it currently has a Lightning Sale on Amazon for Prime Day so its only $35 for the next 3 hours.

Theredragon k552 rbg version is pretty good(at least for me)

Edit:the k551 has a number pad.

Well, not to sound rash or anything but, me personally, I'd send that hard drive back. 5400RPM is gonna lead to some pretty eh read/write speeds; about the same creeping-speeds as a console's hard drive. This is the same price range, 7200RPM, an extra terabyte of storage, and is incredibly quiet (avoid Barracudas; very noisy hard drives). I've got the 2TB version of the P300 and it's great. Very fast, very quiet.

And, I mean... There's about $160 you could've saved ^^^^That ^^^^would've ^^^^given ^^^^you ^^^^better ^^^^performance.

Your build is by no means bad.

It's great, and will last you many years to come. It just missed the mark on cost efficiency.

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As far as keyboards go, I always recommend Cooler Master. Specifically their new MasterKeys Pro S. Very high quality feel, mechanical Cherry switches, RGB backlighting, standard bottom row keyswitches (easier to replace keycaps), TKL (tenkeyless; no numpad). For something more budget-friendly, the Redragon Kurama is actually pretty slick. Mechanical (Outemu; not as high quality as Cherry, but still good), TKL, doesn't feel too cheap, and it's tenkeyless.

Obviously the MasterKeys is gonna be a much more premium keyboard, but the Kurama is a nice little entry-level mechanical keyboard.

Well if you want to go really want to go cheap, this has pretty good reviews.

An RGB Red Dragon Kumera and a Logitech G602 are what I suggest.

I'm using my Kumera now, and love it, and used my G602 for years before I sent it to my BF a few months ago. The battery on the mouse was so good, it was turned on in shipping, got lost, and still was on when my BF got it and opened the package.

You can also get the plain red backlit Kumera for ~$30.99 here if you don't want to fork over an extra $12 for RGB.

Ok then your gonna love to have one, don’t worry I have been on console the majority of my life so I feel you. I am gonna send you a link of my mechanical keyboard, it honestly the best cheapest mechanical keyboard with cherry mx blue switches, which are really good. The only con/issue is the fact that the keyboard makes a lot of sound when typing or playing. So there the link: Reddragon kumara rgb

Non-LED for $28.79: https://www.amazon.ca/Redragon-KUMARA-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B01LXD7TP9/?th=1

RGB for $34.39: https://www.amazon.ca/Redragon-KUMARA-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B019O9BLVY/?th=1

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Hello everyone,

I'm looking to buy my first mechanical keyboard. I don't want to spend a lot of money, and Im a TLK kinda guy. I'm looking at the Redragon K552-RGB KUMARA RGB LED (I'm aware that its over $300 Canadian - I'm going to the US next week and plan on getting it while there delivered to an Amazon box). I know there's a budget intro guide to mechanical keyboards - its where I found this one.. link to guide for interested parties

Does anyone have any other suggestions? I know I could go RGB-less and get it for WAYYY cheaper but... rainbows...

I also looked at the Mechanical Eagle Z-77 but its just fixed color LEDs - but the plain no led one is REALLY cheap...


Thoughts?

Lol and I just got the Redragon 88 Keyboard, Cheap mechanical keyboards ftw.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019O9BLVY/ref=twister_B01IWQP2WY?_encoding=UTF8&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K552-RGB-Mechanical-Keyboard-Construction/dp/B019O9BLVY/ref=sr_1_3?crid=297B6OF7RUAOI&keywords=red+dragon+rgb+keyboard&qid=1551183556&s=gateway&sprefix=red+dragon+rgb+ke%2Caps%2C328&sr=8-3

ended up going with this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019O9BLVY/ref=twister_B06Y2GQBXZ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

TKL

Fullsize

A second keyboard option

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K552-RGB-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B019O9BLVY/

Both Mouse and Keyboard are from Reddragon
The mouse is M602: https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-M602-Ergonomic-Programmable-backlight/dp/B011HMDZ0Q/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
The keyboard is the K552(RGB version) : https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-KUMARA-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B019O9BLVY/ref=sr_1_3?crid=EVXDG36RYWK0&keywords=reddragon%2Bkeyboard&qid=1555946378&s=electronics&sprefix=reddr%2Celectronics%2C120&sr=1-3&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K552-RGB-Mechanical-Keyboard-Construction/dp/B019O9BLVY/ref=mp_s_a_1_2_sspa?keywords=rgb+mechanical+keyboard&qid=1573735509&sprefix=rgb+mech&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzSFQ1TTVYUzZKSVUwJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwOTEyMTA3MTlKSko0N1RSTlBJVSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNjcyMTM1UU0xVFUzTEdIVllLJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

This is one of the cheaper ones, and still has the RGB and is mechanical.
LINK

okay for TKL boards I'll throw a few options ranging from super budget to a smidge over your budget.

$28 no backlight, blue switches (loud, clicky)
$45 RGB backlight, blue switches (loud, clicky)
$70 red backlight, MX red switches (linear, not as loud, "name brand" switches)
$80 RGB, MX red switches (linear, name brand switches)
$99 blue led. range of cherry MX switches (my personal favourites are brown or silver)

the AUKey and reddragon boards are both good 'beginner' boards to get you into the world of mechanical keybs without too much of an initial outlay.

also worth noting, if keycaps etc are a bonus for you I would steer clear of Corsair boards (i have a k65 and trying to find any keycaps that come with corsairs stupid non standard bottom row is an exercise in frustration.)

I just tried and I think it's because I'm bottoming them out. The click is definitely there but the majority of the noise is when I press down. Here's what I have:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019O9BLVY/ref=twister_B0754LGLFP?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Red dragon make some decent boards. Their RGB one is 42 bucks. This one let's you customize keys. If you're just looking for lighting effects you could go even cheaper.

https://www.amazon.com/Team-Wolf-Swappable-Mechanical-Keyboard-Blue/dp/B01AFBJQA8 you could get something like this and try the reds and then if you need the clears you get SMD led clears from here: https://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=9SIA7AR5662611 then you don't need to solder to switch if needed.

From the looks of it you might not be able too; cherry switches don't have smd led cutouts so the switch isn't going to sit properly. You can probably try gateron switches with smd cutouts, they usually have a white bottom and clear top. I looked up pictures of the bottom of the switch after I looked at the pbc and the pins looks smaller that regular switches so that might be a problem you run into.

https://static1.caseking.de/media/image/thumbnail/gata-753_gata_753_2g_800x800.jpg

The keyboard looks like the teamwolf one with the same concept of removable switches.

Amazon:

Team Wolf [CIY] [ Swappable Switch ] [ Customize Switches ] Mechanical Keyboard, Mix Color Led Backlit, 7 Light Modes 87 Keys Wired Gaming or Office Keyboard--Blue Switch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AFBJQA8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_x1prxbEJN693N

Massdrop:

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/team-wolf-swappable-switch-mechanical-keyboard

It was sold on massdrop a few months ago and when it dropped they gave you the option to include smd gateron switches. For the reason that the cherry switches won't sit flush with the plate and might cause problems.

Hope this was helpful this was all speculation from looking at the Amazon link you provided so don't take my word on it.

Clears won't make a lick of difference for a macaw and a cockatoo... They'll just rip the stem clean off. I can't think of a single keyboard that they wouldn't be able to rip to shreds in a moment.

In this case, it might be better to go for something like the Team Wolf Swappable Switch board. Would save the annoyance or desoldering broken switches...

You could try picking up a cheap hotswap keyboard like this.

You will need to pick up some rubber feet because it only has 2 on the front so the back of the keyboard can slide out. With a hotswap board you can test out lots of different types of switches and when you have a bunch of them you can even pick up this or this to open them up and mix and match switch stems, springs and housings to create your own custom switches.

I have wrist tendinitis but do not really suffer from joint pain (yet). If you have joint pain, I think you need to identify what precisely causes the onset of pain and either buy or build a switch that discourages it. If I had to guess, I would think that the impact of bottoming out the keycap is rattling your joints and triggering the onset of pain, so you could start with switches like Halos, where the springs get stiffer the further you depress the key. This discourages bottoming out but I personally don't like them because the stiff springs make them fatiguing for me to type on. Over long periods of typing my wrist kind of clenches up and I get wrist pain. My preference is towards very light spring weights. I do bottom out but I am a very light handed typist so I don't feel my joints rattling (yet).

Another thing about living with chronic pain is adapting your typing technique to your keyboard as well as adapting your keyboard to your hands. So I try to avoid doing things with my wrist that aggravate my tendinitis - gripping, twisting, splaying and clenching can trigger the onset of pain within minutes and it can take up to a week to recover. I've lived with tendinitis for years so my body is pretty good at warning me when to stop or do something different. If you have lived with chronic joint pain for a while, I assume you have learned to listen to when your body is telling you to stop.

For joint pain, I think you want to avoid the impact of the keycap slamming into the switch plate. Mechanical key switches are designed to have a long travel distance. Cherry MX switches for example have 4mm of travel and they actuate at 2mm. So you only have to press them down to 2mm for a keystroke to register and the remaining key travel is a cushion to soften or completely avoid the bottom out.

You could try a tactile switch with a light spring weight such as MX Brown. If you need more of a tactile bump there are many tactile clone switches that give you more actuation feedback. Adjust your typing technique so you type only with as much force as necessary to actuate and not to bottom out. You can mix and match springs if you need more of a cushion. If heavier spring weights are fatiguing then don't worry, you have other options.

You can consider switches where the actuation point is higher up so the keystroke registers sooner and there is more key travel distance before the cap hits the switch plate. For example, Kailh Copper, which actuates at 1.1mm with 2.5mm of travel after the actuation point.

You may end up spending a lot of money on switches but if they don't work out for you personally, you can sell them on mechmarket and recoup most of your money.

Sure is.

That's what I figured. I didn't think that needing a keyboard that requires switches to be desoldered to remove them needed to be said as that's 99% of keyboards :P

But yea, there are cheaper options like TeamWolf Zhuque or the E-Element Z-88. There's also the K-Type on Massdrop, but that's above your budget. PC Gaming Race, who makes the GMMK, is working on a TKL version, though I'm not sure when that will be available.

One thing to note is that in a Massdrop Discussion for another E-Element keyboard, people are saying that it isn't compatible with other Cherry MX/clone switches. I don't know if this is the case with the Z-88 I linked above as well, but I'd be wary of that.

Rantopad MXX is what I recommend for a lot of people. This one uses Gateron blues which a lot of people here like, some people moreso than Cherry brand. Or if you want hotswappable switches to add Cherry switches down the road, then the Zhuque is a good choice

If you want a good inexpensive intro board with metal case, I really like my Teamwolf Zhuque TKL. It comes with decent Outemu switches but they're hot-swappable so you can throw in a huge variety of switches without soldering. (I put Zealios in mine and absolutely love it.)

Zhuque/TeamWolf TKL. I use this one as a 'switch tester'.

Amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/Team-Wolf-Swappable-Mechanical-Keyboard-Blue/dp/B01AFBJQA8

This keyboard is the same price as ordering Hotlites for a keyboard. And it comes with a hotswappable ability. Buy it, try everything you want! :)

With the Magicforce 68, I noticed that the "Escape" key is on the same location as the Tilde ~ key. I assume that means each time I want to hit "Escape", I have to hit Fn+~ to get the Escape command, is that correct?

I know everyone recommends the Magicforce 68 as a budget Mech, but as I game a lot and sometimes have a lot of windows open in general, the necessity of the Escape Key being a one-button switch may be a dealbreaker for me...

Also--is there any consensus on the Drevo Gramr 84? From what I read and searched, it's a very solid board for it's price of just $40. I believe they're Outemus, and I'm planning to get a Brown Switch Keyboard. Are there any other potential Brown keyboards (on Amazon only, US) that I should consider around that price range? Can be TK or TKL.

i hope and extra fiver doesn't break the bank but this has Kalih Browns which are a good knock of cherry switch.
https://www.amazon.com/DREVO-84-Key-Tenkeyless-Mechanical/dp/B01H6DHITE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494265648&sr=8-1&keywords=drevo+gramr

You'd be surprised how similar the switch quality is. Apparently, this has to do with the Cherry patent expiring and others can now produce the same type of switches. I haven't confirmed this, I've only read it from a handful of other sources. Anyway, I bet if you looked at a few reviews, you might even change your mind.

Do yourself a favor and YouTube these models:

Ajazz AK33

Drevo Gramr

Qisan

So this past Saturday night I was browsing some reddit. I happened to stumble across this photo, which awoke a desire in me to own a mechanical keyboard. Until now I thought mechanical keyboards were just a gamer thing and the only style they came in was black keyboards with RGB flashing all over the place. But seeing that picture made me realize that there is a huge variety of ways you can aesthetically customize a board. So the past few days I've spent a lot of my spare time doing research and trying to decide what I ultimate want in my "dream" mechanical keyboard. I've ordered a cheaper mechanical keyboard off Amazon for now until I've settled on what I want.

Sorry for the story, I just thought it was worth mentioning and giving you my very brief history and knowledge of mechanical keyboards (or lack thereof). Anyway, I have two questions:

1. What are some quality 75% or higher keyboards with a completely compact design? By compact design, I mean no empty space between key groupings. Like this. I want f-keys and some kind of arrows (either actual arrow keys or a numpad with numlock). Preferably Cherry MX switches, or something that supports Cherry MX stemmed keycaps. I imagine I'm looking in all the wrong places, but I haven't seen many keyboards like that. The Red Scarf III Ver.A pictured above was part of a massdrop, and the Drevo 84 Key Gramr is a budget board. I assume the Noppoo Choc Mini 84 NKRO is my answer? Are there any others?
   
2. Where can I get my hands on a nice set of SA/DSA profile keycaps? I'm in love with the Nantucket set, but they just wrapped up a groupbuy. The few times I've seen them on r/mechmarket they've either sold out super fast or are priced higher than I can comfortably pay for them. Royal Navy seems equally hard to hunt down. I also wouldn't mind a carbon/industrial look like the GMK Carbon set. I know that pimpmykeyboard has some SA and DSA sets, but I'm not too fond of any of them (and if I'm going to be spending $100+ on a keyset, I want to be happy with what I get).

I have and like my Logitech G410 which fits all of your criteria. From logitech you will pay more than your budget but you can get it for cheaper via 3rd party. Its $70 right now on amazon. https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Spectrum-Tenkeyless-Mechanical-920-007731/dp/B01645FHEI

I also really like and actually use my Drevo TKL more tho which is not RGB: https://www.amazon.com/DREVO-84-Key-Tenkeyless-Mechanical/dp/B01H6DHITE/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1506356645&sr=1-5&keywords=drevo But one of the main reasons I really like this keyboard isthat the F-keys are directly in line with the number keys.

Drevo also has a RGB option but it doesnt have the inline F-keys: https://www.amazon.com/Element-Water-Proof-Mechanical-Keyboard-Anti-Ghost/dp/B01FXF7HFC/ref=sr_1_15?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1506356645&sr=1-15&keywords=drevo

Overall I use my drevo for the very specific reason of the in-line f-keys and its a feature I really value. However if this isnt important I would recomend the G410. But any of these listed keyboards wont steer you wrong.

Cheers!

I have the Drevo 84 Key with brown switches and absolutely love it.

Also tried/have the Magic Force 68 key with browns and quickly realized I rely on the function keys too much in photo editing and gaming. But for just typing I prefer typing on it to typing on the Drevo.

But the drevo also has a number pad which is really useful for data entry from lab work. The media control shortcuts are also in a more logical/traditional layout.

Drevo is more functional. Magic force better for pure typing.

Some older side by side photos

Perhaps https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/rv7/Drevo-84-Key-Backlit-Tenkeyless-Mechanical-Keyboard/B01H6DHITE/ ?

Magicforce is also a good option.

https://www.amazon.com/Qisan-Promotion-Mechanical-Backlight-Magicforce/dp/B01HHTFSIK/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1524094532&sr=1-2&keywords=magicforce+full+size

This has Gateron browns, which are good Cherry clones and won't break the bank.

I personally like gateron brown vs cherry brown for brown switches so check out something like this

https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HHTFSIK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1510760374&sr=8-3&keywords=gateron+brown+keyboard

My understand is that you can also get the gmmk keyboard for around 100 prebuilt with gateron brown switches. The value there is that for a little extra money you get a keyboard that can swap switches which could be useful if you don't like browns or a switch dies on you. While it has a dumb name it looks pretty sleek and the rgb can be fully turned off if you don't like it in a office setting (can also be tuned to one color for a nice backlight). If you are interested in that one I have a referrel code you can use to get the price lower than msrp.

If you can spare $40, this Magicforce 68 is a pretty good keyboard. It's a 60% board, so some of the extra key functions are layered underneath other keys. But it's not super hard to get used to.

If you need a full-size, it's a little bit more at $70.

Neither

CoolerMaster Trigger Z

MagicForce 108

Sacrifice quality? Not necessarily, let me link you some of the keyboards i was looking at. You would lose rgb but gain real mechanical switches not rubber dome switch with mechanical like feel.

Logitech g610 white led cherry mx red

Logitech g410 tenkeyless rgb romger g

Corsair k63 tenkkeyless red led cherry mx red

Qisan white led gateron browns
Ive had the tenkeyless version of this keyboard for 2 years now. Still going strong but as my dads keyboard now.

REFURBISHED: Razer Blackwidow x rgb doesnt list the switch but its mostly likely razer green Dont know if you care about refurbished or not but i listed one just in case you dont

Magicforce 108 Key with GATERON Browns white non-RGB backlit $69.99 (better thank Kaihl or Outemu or unspecified switches but a compromise on RGB)

https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HHTFSIK

This Magicforce 108?

Magicforce 108 with Gateron browns. Also comes in a version with blues if you want to keep the click

Every board has a metal plate so no worries there. For $100 and fullsized you could try the big Magicforce. Not 100% sure of it's quality, but having owned the smaller Magicforce 68, I think it was ok for the price. Magicforce is touted around here as being a pretty good fullsized board.

You can also check out the Masterkeys Pro L which is much more widely known and advertised. If you stretch your budget a bit more, you could have the RGB version but that's a bit pricey.

Any switches are good for typing considering people game and type on rubberdomes. Just figure out what you like. (Either in person, which I recommend, by going to a Bestbuy/ Microcenter or buy a switch tester, which is pricey and doesn't give you the full feeling.)

https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HHTFSIK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1482952620&sr=8-2&keywords=Gateron+brown

Can't beat the price, decent build quality, and gateron brown > cherry brown. Might be able to find in in black.

https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HHTFSIK/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1506642470&sr=8-4

perhaps? I'm sure you can get cheaper Kailh switch keyboards but from what I heard Gateron is superior. Often times its even said to be better than Cherry switches.

there's no such thing as a "beginner" stick. you just need to get one that uses decent parts like sanwa. unfortunately that means you will have to spend more but I recommend Hori

if you're really strapped for cash try this stick and then mod it later with sanwa parts

also playing on pad is perfectly viable, even more so for SFV. so don't feel like you need to get one unless you have aspirations to go to japan one day and play against the arcade heads

It's $120 CAD from amazon.ca if you want it faster. Qanba Drone

If you want to use an actual stick, I'd say it's probably not worth getting the Alpha. Miniature sticks such as the Alpha and the Hori Fighting Stick Mini tend to be uncomfortable to use for extended periods of time, and are made using lower quality parts than full-size sticks. If you want a stick, the cheapest one I'd recommend would probably be the Qanba Carbon. I own one and it's a fairly nice stick for beginners. Technically it's not a PS4 controller, but Street Fighter 5 and a few other games support it in Legacy Mode. Check to see if the other fighting games you have support Legacy controllers. If they do, this is a great option for your price range. Otherwise, your next best bet is probably the Qanba Drone.

If you want a pad, the revamped fightpad pro is a good choice. I've never used one but the new model has gotten significantly better reviews than the problematic previous model. Personally I went with the Hori FC4, but the price has gone significantly up since that model isn't being manufactured anymore. The newer model is only $40 though, so that fits in your budget.

Qanba drone is $60 on Amazon right now-

https://www.amazon.com/Qanba-Drone-PlayStation-4/dp/B01I0GEDEY

It may not work, but at least you can try. I still recommend upgrading though, but I don't know how much sticks go for in EU. I'm fortunate in the US that they're widely available. If you're not looking to drop too much money, but need a quality stick, I would take a look at the qanba drone. Link: https://www.amazon.com/Joystick-PlayStation-Fighting-Officially-Licensed-4/dp/B01I0GEDEY

https://smile.amazon.com/Qanba-Joystick-PlayStation-Fighting-Officially/dp/B01I0GEDEY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1478477279&sr=8-2-spons&keywords=qanba&psc=1

This is a decent stick for your price range that works with ps3,ps4, pc. You can switch out the buttons and stick, if you want. I normally stick with madcatz, but my friend has a qanba and i had no issues when I tried it out.

well then theres the Venom arcade-stick. dunno about availability in US, but hes pretty popular in europe. a friend of mine has one and hes more than happy with it.

i'd probably save 50$ more though and go for a HRAP4 if i were you.

the qanba-sticks are popular, too

If you are just starting out for cheap you can get a hori fight stick mini for about $50.

https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Stick-Mini-PlayStation-4/dp/B014KXMEW4

if you want a large one you really cant go wrong with a Qanba drone.

https://www.amazon.com/Qanba-Drone-PlayStation-4/dp/B01I0GEDEY/ref=sr_1_1?hvadid=174249048211&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9013192&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=4422332991940354643&hvtargid=aud-647006051489%3Akwd-208944826600&keywords=qanba+drone&qid=1554995563&s=gateway&sr=8-1

if its your first stick it may a take a few days to get used to, but i personally use the mini when i travel to a friends house and a larger stick at home.

Either a Qamba Drone or you search for a second-hand HORI HRAP for less than $100.

My bad, I was thinking of the Drone. It is definitely a solid choice for 80 bucks. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01I0GEDEY/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1496407833&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=qanba+q4&dpPl=1&dpID=419H6M77PhL&ref=plSrch

There is a Q4 for the 87.99, but I've never ordered from play-Asia so I don't know that it's a reputable site. http://www.play-asia.com/qanba-q4-light-up-real-arcade-fightingstick/13/709437?gclid=CIudp4qan9QCFdQ2gQodw8sBCA&ref=froogle_us

G403 gets my vote
or
https://www.amazon.ca/Logitech-Gaming-Advanced-Sensor-Competitive/dp/B01JPOLLTK/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=g+pro+wired&qid=1563205413&s=gateway&sr=8-3

An overlooked part of the equation is a mouse pad. The joke about tryhards buying giant mousepads is not unfounded. Lower sensitivity is a good idea in most games and with a small mouse pad you'll find yourself running out of room too often. Buy a giant Steel Series QCK mousepad IMO.

Other than that buy something with the tried and true MX switches. Razer has gone to their own proprietary switch and there's nothing to suggest they're better and everything to suggest it was a cost cutting measure. Reds or browns are going to be best for FPS games IMO. Tenkeyless will allow you to better accommodate the giant mouse pad and not have your left arm/hand in an uncomfortable spot.

Mice are much more subjective. Figure out how you grip the mouse (palm/claw/fingertip) and start looking based off that. Laser vs. optical is a contested topic and in general you probably won't find a huge difference. The Logitech G Pro (https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Gaming-Advanced-Sensor-Competitive/dp/B01JPOLLTK) is generally regarded as having a top tier sensor and is reasonably priced. That's what I would buy if I had to buy a new mouse today.

Logitech G Pro Wireless

Amazon Link

Highly recommended.

Changed my work life + at home with being able to set macros, I literally bring it everywhere with me in my backpack.

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Also, the wireless, works like a charm, lasts 4-5 solid use w/ RGB, storable receiver slot underneath so you never lose it, clean ergonomic design!

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Let me know if you have any questions.

Happy to help.

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/logitech-logitech-g502-wired-optical-gaming-mouse-910-004615-black-910-004615/10406371.aspx?

or was it this:

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01M26YUKO/ref=s9_acsd_bw_wf_a_Thanksgi_cdl_61?pf_rd_m=A1IM4EOPHS76S7&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-2&pf_rd_r=R0VR176DCY9M5146CQKE&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=ae3024f9-f661-4742-bd54-5671833970ef&pf_rd_i=18384524011

or maybe this:

https://www.amazon.ca/Logitech-Gaming-Advanced-Sensor-Competitive/dp/B01JPOLLTK

Amazon price matched it if you want to buy from there.

Some recommendations.
Ambidextrous mouses
Dream Machines DM1 FPS - Have heard good things about these mouses. Haven't used one personally but would not be against one if I was looking to try something different than what I already have.
Zowie FK series - Difference between the FK1, FK1+ and FK2 are just size.
Logitech G Pro - Personally I prefer the original over the new version with the Hero sensor because I like the PMW3366 better than the Hero16K but most people state they can't notice the difference. Also, original is pretty cheap right now.

Ergonomic mouses
Zowie EC series - Users report having issues with the scroll wheels on the B models (EC1-B,EC2-B) but that seems to be hit or miss. I have an EC2-B that I love and have no issues with. The B models have a newer sensor than the A models. B models have the PMW3360 sensor.
Logitech G403 - Great sensor (PMW3366) and fairly light at just over 87 grams.

You will probably notice these are some of the most popular mouses on this subreddit, haha. Take my recommendations with a grain of salt and do your own research as well. Hope this helped in any way!

My suggestion is the Logitech G305 for $10 over your budget, but it's got the best wireless sensor on the market. It isn't gamerized by any means and you can add macros to the side buttons if that's what you want. I really like the scroll wheel as well, it's rubberized and textured with distinct steps that aren't too tactile.

For a cheaper wired version, the Logitech G203 is the same mouse only it's using the gold-standard wired sensor. It has RGB, but you can turn it off. Other than that, it has the exact same features and shape.

A friend of mine bought the CM Devastator, but that was like 3 years ago and I don't remember what the mouse felt like(if the scroll wheel was mushy in comparison), but either of these are a lot better.

Granted, I'm using a G Pro which is yet another of the same style, it's just a little older and more expensive than the G203.

So when it comes to buying a mouse it is really all about your play style and feel. If you like to palm the mouse meaning that your whole hand is round the mouse a good mouse is the Razer Deathadder If you like the claw grip using mostly only your finger tips than I would recommend the Logitech G Pro I personally now use this mouse but used the Deathadder for a number of years. Both mice have over a 12,000 dpi setting once you install the software you can adjust as you please, but tbh most likely you will play between 200-900 dpi and 1.2-3.2 sensitivity in game. All of this is preference and you will figure out over a long period of time playing key board again is all preference it depends if you like silent of mechanical Razer Cynosa is a very nice silent one in your price range, for mechanical I have owned a lot of them and tbh the one I use is a off brand one I bought from my local Walmart and and I like it more than any high dollar ones I have owned so you might want to look there. Also you will need a nice mouse pad I have and will probably continue to use for years the razer goliaths speed it is cloth and I like it, there are also hard pads many people I know use and enjoy the Corsait MM8800 but again this is all up to preference. Last thing if you are trying to play at any high lvl of competition you might want to look into a 144hz monitor if your computer can run what ever game you are playing over about 200fps I have Acer 24inch 144hz the price is really good and makes a huge difference. well that is about all I can think about I wish you the best of luck and above all just have fun.

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• $35 Logitech G Pro sold out
  
• $35 Logitech G403
  
• $40 Logitech G502
  
• $35 WIRELESS G403
  
• $25 G502

There is no correct sensitivity when it comes to playing a certain hero or playstyle. It's all personal preference and how much practice you have put into the hero and game. I have known players who are very good at aiming with both extremely high and low sensitivities. Of course, if you are setting your sensitivity for the first time like you just picked up a mouse, I would say set it to where a full span across your mousepad will do a 360. (With no acceleration. Make sure you turn that off. If your mouse has that on automatically, get a new one.) From there, you have to test yourself to see if you are over/undershooting, or you think it just feels incorrect. In the case where you have a small mousepad and bad mouse. Investing in a good mouse would probably be worth the money. You can find the best mouse for your handshape and grip which will probably turn up the best results. (RJN has a good website for easily finding it.) Or, if you are on a budget, there are nice mice which you can find for about $50 - assuming you are in the USA or can order from amazon easily. (Here a few options. Razer Deathadder, CORSAIR Harpoon, Logitech G Pro, one of my favourite mice, seriously.) If your mousepad feels like a problem, you can get one that fits your whole desk lengthwise. You don't have to get a big name brand or anything, just one that has decent quality.
Good luck with your games.

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Gaming-Advanced-Sensor-Competitive/dp/B01JPOLLTK/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1526073593&sr=8-4&keywords=logitech+pro

Here's a nice mouse with side buttons:

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JPOLLTK/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?tag=onwinningcom-20&ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01JPOLLTK&linkId=08dd79b1bca4368db086a1c292d5c1aa&sa-no-redirect=1

It's a bit more, but if you want side buttons, I'd say it's better.

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01MS8YTYX/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I1N10PJOVVJ8P5&colid=16AO9YTA6G46O&psc=0

Only one I can think up off the top of my head. Only comes in Outemu Browns though. That and it uses a dongle, no BT.

Don't pull trigger right away though, someone may have something better.

I dunno if there is any wireless TKLs less than 30 US, but the wired form of this board is 10 less, but it seems out of stock and I can't access the link to it (Also brown only). If you really wanted blues, Redragon K552 uses Outemu blues only, although I don't personally like the bumped up logo and it is wired:

https://smile.amazon.com/Redragon-KUMARA-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B01LXD7TP9/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1518303738&sr=8-1&keywords=k552&th=1

Looks pretty good. I would swap out the wifi card for this gigabyte one as it's better. Allows for a movable antenna and uses an Intel NIC for better performance.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tTdqqs/gigabyte-wireless-network-card-gcwb867di

As much as I love Nixeus, imo if you're going to go with a cheaper mechanical you might as well pick up some of the chinese ones. Redragon ones have been the popular budget pick, and will save you a good amount of money especially if you grab the non-backlit version(as the nixeus one is not backlit either)

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-KUMARA-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B01LXD7TP9/

Can't really speak for that mouse, but I'm generally not a fan of laser sensors. If you aren't gaming though, it'll probably do the job just fine.

Hiraliy F300 Gaming Mouse ($17)

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Redragon K552-N Mechanical keyboard ($27)

$44 total. Cheaper than the Redragon $50 bundle and the mouse is better.

On your budget you don't need the lights on the normal K552, though you could grab that for a few dollars more if you really want them. The Redragon M711 Cobra is a good budget mouse option as well, same sensor. Though it may be a little more expensive, I didn't look. I like the Hiraliy a little better, the cord doesn't snag as much.

I really wouldn't go any cheaper on the keyboard or mouse, you could probably find a membrane keyboard or a slightly cheaper mouse and get the cost down to around $30 but it's really worth it to spend the extra money.

here are a couple mechanical keyboards for around 40$ i have the first one from mechanical eagle (typing on it right now its great) https://www.amazon.com/MechanicalEagle-Multicolor-Mechanical-Keyboard-Replaceable/dp/B01DBVH16U/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1487901926&sr=1-2&keywords=mechanical+eagle+mechanical+keyboard
if you dont like rainbow lights i would recommend https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K552-N-KUMARA-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B01LXD7TP9/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1487902018&sr=1-2&keywords=red+dragon+kumara
and if you don't want loud mx blue switches: https://www.amazon.com/Velocifire-Mechanical-Keyboard-Illuminated-Anti-ghosting/dp/B01M0QEYR4/ref=sr_1_sc_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1487902052&sr=1-1-spell&keywords=velocofire+vm01

I've only used this one personally. The keycaps are pretty cheap, and it's certainly nothing to write home about, but I still think it's pretty solid for the price. There may be better options though, this is just the only one I have direct experience with.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LXD7TP9/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awdo_rGPHzbE316WEP
Multiple LED options, metal backplate, etc

So I've used it a little now general use so far and I'm loving it! I swapped from a Razer Deathstalker Chroma (I know boo and hiss but it was a Christmas present from my grandma) so I'm not used to the action of it yet and I'm definitely going to need a wrist rest soon. It has some (what the page on amazon says) MX Cherry Green equivalent (read knockoff) but after taking some caps off and looking they're actually blue (if that means anything). I'll have to do a full write up on it after I've used it for a bit. But for a cheap mech its great. Here's a link as well Redragon K552-N Kamara

Nope, I've looked into those tho, just never pulled the trigger.

Right keyboard - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IZXXF92/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Left keyboard - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LXD7TP9/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

this one? No mention of hotswappability

Thrustmaster T300 RS GT Racing Wheel - PlayStation 4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M1L2NRL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_TnpjDbKBWETSD

Click the link below “new and used from $200” — top link is the one being sold by amazon.

It’s out of stock now, but you can order it/buy it from Best Buy and get a price match. That’s what I did and it’s supposed to be delivered on Friday!

This is a good deal. PC and PS4. No shifter, but for the price, it’s much better than a g920. Thrustmaster T300 RS GT Racing Wheel - PlayStation 4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M1L2NRL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_QOPkDbS62HW63

$100 is only going to get you something used (like a t150 or g29) or something like the T80 that does not have force feedback, and force feedback is probably the biggest reason to use a wheel, so I personally would not recommend going that route.


The T300RS GT is on sale for $200 today for prime day, which is a really good deal for that level of kit. Cheaper than the T150 is usually, and it is a much higher quality wheel (I've had both.) If you've got the scratch right now, that is likely your best bet. Outside of prime day, the non-GT version, which only has two pedals, is typically around 230-250.

Also, browse a bit on /r/simracing, there are a lot of advice questions like this, as well as a very good buying guide that will help you get a good grasp on the options.

As a personal aside, spend a little more up front if you have any inkling this will be a hobby of yours. The t300 made a world of difference once I upgraded after hundreds of hours on the T150, and if you'll be spending a lot of time with it might as well get treat yourself up front.

are you in the US? Amazon just dropped the price of the T300 to 200 with the 3 pedal set, insane price for what you get.

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https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL

There already is a dedicated wheel... It's Thrustmaster T300 RS GT.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thrustmaster-T300-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL

This is a steal for the T300.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M1L2NRL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_pyHUCb861Q7KQ

And the G29 is at 200 right now.

And you gotta find a stand.

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Tenkeyless-Mechanical/dp/B071W2697M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499866510&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=cooler+master+keyboard+mechanical&psc=1


This keyboard is recommended by the community as a great starter board. You have a few switch options, TKL and fullize, and comes with pbt caps stock.

This would be a tiny tiny bit out of your budget coming in at like 103.19 cad according to google. Honestly these are amazing board's coolmaster makes one of the NICEST mechanical keyboards and it was one of my first boards. Mine was Cherry blues but browns are not a bad mid tier starter switch if you never had a mechanical keyboard before. https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Tenkeyless-Mechanical/dp/B071W2697M/ref=sr_1_sc_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1522223170&sr=1-1-spell&keywords=Coolmaster+TKL

CM MasterKeys S with PBT keycaps.

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Tenkeyless-Mechanical/dp/B071W2697M/

I've been looking for a keyboard with Brown switches for work. I have a CoolerMaster MasterKeys Pro L with Red switches at home and am leaning heavily towards another CM board for work.
Thoughts on the CM MasterKeys S PBT - TKL? Looking at the reviews, it seems the letters on the Key caps fade, and as much as I want to give PBT a try, I don't want a keyboard with faded keys. Worst comes to worst, I'll look at the MasterKeys Pro M.
Living in Canada and hoping for a $150 budget, lower preferable. Open to alternative recommendations if anyone has any. :)

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B071W2697M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_cmTWzbZC3HAFR

No numpad so it's not as wide.

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Tenkeyless-Mechanical/dp/B071W2697M/

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Tenkeyless-Mechanical/dp/B071W2697M

Maybe you'd like this? Looks really simple but feels great and gets the job done.
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Tenkeyless-Mechanical/dp/B071W2697M

I know you mention USD, but maybe I'm missing something in regards to Canada or something, but that CM Masterkeys S is $80 with free shipping, brand new via amazon, at least in US. Unless it's different?

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Mechanical-TenKeyless/dp/B071W2697M?th=1

Check the Cooler Master MasterKeys S PBT. Was considering buying this but didn't want to wait so I instead went with the iKBC MF-87.

Unless you insist on a numpad, TKL is probably the way to go, just for the sake of saving space and giving your right hand some room to work with. I don't know about black friday sales, but in that case, you can't go wrong with the Masterkeys S PBT for $80.

Wouldn't this one be a fair bit cheaper?

Hey dude.

Thanks for the awesome write up. Over the last week I've been mulling over getting into my first board. I too was super overwhelmed by all the information and the learning curve. I was intimidated by the really cool custom boards but knew I was nowhere near that level yet. Just yesterday I finally pulled the trigger on these two Items Filco Majestouch Numpad and Cooler Master MasterKeys S. Im pretty excited to see where things go. I'll eventually get some keycaps.

I do a lot of number entry at work and wanted to have a left side number pad, hence the two items. I saw this board online DSI LEFT HANDED USB KEYBOARD but was a little turned off by MX-Red only and then it being a board from 2012. I'm not sure how quality has changed the last 6 years and I wanted to go with MX-Browns for my first board. Maybe a little foolish to buy two items, but I was afraid of how hard it may be to switch from red to brown.

I think I'll eventually get into a full custom board where I can have a more compact layout but still have a Tenkey on the left side. We'll see how that goes. I'm hesitant to get a bunch of tools that would be needed to make a board. Hopefully more left side tenkey options will come out some day.

Anyway, tldr: just got my first board, looking forward to the adventure. Thanks for the info and the kind welcome to the community.

Alright, there is a few options that i would recommend

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If you don't want a numpad this is a great option

Cooler master masterkeys S (PBT (Thicker keycaps))

If you want a numpad this is the version with one

Cooler master masterkeys pro L

If you want a non pbt version of the S

Cooler master masterkeys S

If you want a pbt version of the pro L

Cooler master masterkeys pro L (PBT(Thicker keycaps))

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These are all cherry mx brown switches, I'm not sure what the difference is between the pro and non pro versions you might have to look that up, they have white leds and come in at your budget, enjoy

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B071W2697M/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1521578479&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=cooler+master+masterkeys+s+pbt&dpPl=1&dpID=51-K4yYpwGL&ref=plSrch

I love it

It also has Red MX switches and not really 10-key-less.

I am sure you will find one.

I have this one: https://www.amazon.com/Storm-QuickFire-Rapid-Tenkeyless-Mechanical/dp/B0068INSUM but is has no LED and when I bought it it was quite a bit cheaper. I think it was replaced by this one: https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Tenkeyless-Mechanical/dp/B071W2697M/ref=pd_sbs_147_4?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B071W2697M&pd_rd_r=VP57V3VZWMEGJ0MQ2ZC8&pd_rd_w=EmoPN&pd_rd_wg=KaHEK&psc=1&refRID=VP57V3VZWMEGJ0MQ2ZC8

Get a Coolermaster Masterkey S or L.

Comes equipped with PBT caps out of the box, solid build quality, Cherry MX switches. All you'll need!

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B071W2697M?th=1&psc=1

Looking to get my first mechanical keyboard because people won't shut up about how good they are (honestly still skeptical if I'm actually going to "get it" seeing as I've always found a $20 Walmart keyboard to always have nothing left to be desired, but fuck it here I go)

I've read the sidebar stuff and think I want a TLK with brown switches. I'd like some tactile feedback but silence is a must.

This first one is the one that I'm currently leaning towards.

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=3597

It is REALLY stretching my budget so I'm kinda nervous about pulling the trigger. Would this be good for that price?

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071KGHZY4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1DYE0JBXZTW6W&psc=1

This was a runner up, but it looks like a cheaper build at a glance and is a little gaudy imo. It fit the criteria though.

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Then there is this one

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071W2697M/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

This is about what I feel comfortable spending for a keyboard, but I'm worried by undershooting by that much I might just be disappointed or worse end up with a defective crappy one (some pretty negative reviews there)

Any opinions?

Yeah, its this board here.
https://smile.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Tenkeyless-Mechanical/dp/B071W2697M/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=masterkeys&qid=1552259451&s=gateway&sr=8-1&th=1

I know shit all about mechanical keyboards because I just got my first one a few days ago, but it was this:

https://www.amazon.ca/MasterKeys-Tenkeyless-Mechanical-Keyboard-Switches/dp/B071W2697M/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1526395649&sr=1-1&keywords=cooler+master+masterkeys+s+brown&dpID=51-K4yYpwGL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

I don't have anything to compare it to but I'm really happy with it so far, and I think it's a good deal.

CM Masterkeys S PBT vs. Ducky One 2 Skyline TKL vs. Leopold FC750R vs. Your recommendation for a tactile (like browns) TKL board in the $100 area?

Bonus question one: Is the quality of a $80 board (like the CM) noticeably worse than of a $100 board (like the Ducky) and a $100 board compared to a $120 board (like Leopold) and a $120 board to a $150 board (like WASD)?

Bonus question two: I've seen people complain about MX Browns, but I haven't seen any useful explainations as to why they are bad. Is complaining about MX Browns a joke in this subreddit?

Edit: Fixed link to CM, added Leopold

Cooler Master Masterkeys S PBT is a nice TKL for $80 USD on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Tenkeyless-Mechanical/dp/B071W2697M/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1527020942&sr=1-3&keywords=tenkeyless+mechanical+keyboard

I'm also currently trying out the Logitech G Pro keyboard and I'm liking it so far. Awaiting my WhiteFox to come

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Mechanical-Keyboard-Portable-Detachable/dp/B06XMRQ68B/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1527021015&sr=1-4&keywords=tenkeyless+mechanical+keyboard

I'm talking about this one here.

No backlight, available in 5 days, comes with PBT caps.
Absolutely solid package for $80.

Never heard of tecware, but ducky and vortex make great keyboards.

Also you should stop thinking of things as being good for gaming, that's all marketing. Getting a mechanical keyboard with specific switches isn't going to make you any better at playing games. Just try and research what you might like as far as personal preference. Anyone saying "blues are for typing, reds are for gaming" is just buying into marketing.

My biggest recommendation for stock mechanical keyboards would be Coolermaster Masterkeys series. Like this keyboard.

It's got PBT keycaps that are a denser kind of plastic and the lettering will never wear off. There's no shinethrough though if that matters to you.

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Tenkeyless-Mechanical/dp/B071W2697M
This meets all of your requirements, and is much less than your budget.
Overall, the keyboards from CM are well recommended around here, as they are pretty good quality for the price.

Trying to pick from the following keyboards:

• Cooler Master MasterKeys S PBT
  
• Anne Pro
  
• DREVO Calibur
  
  I'll be using this for programming at work. I've never used anything less than a full-sized keyboard, though. For anybody who has used the Anne Pro before, how was the actual battery life they experienced? I know they say you can go about a month if you keep the LEDs off.

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Tenkeyless-Mechanical/dp/B071W2697M/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1496703723&sr=8-2&keywords=master+keys+pbt

Hello, looking to get my first MK.
-Found Ducky one blue backlit full sized with browns for really cheap(80 USD). But I wanted to try TKL instead so found this, it is nice but out of stock and will be 50 USD dollars more because I am in Canada.

-What is PBT and is Double Shot a big difference from other PBT

-I saw that backliting is considered a con, Why?

-Cooler Master MasterKeys S PBT won't ship to Canada...right?

-Glorious modular mechanical keyboard...worth the extra 30 USD?

I am really sold out on the Ducky one full sized brown because of my budget and I don't think I have many options in Canada?

O-rings would only quiet the bottoming-out sound on Blue switches. They don't quiet the click noise or the upstroke. Not too familiar with Aukey but it's rare that a mechanical that comes with a knockoff Cherry switch can't take Cherry or other clones.

Not sure I understand what you don't like about the Magicforce. It's not as wide as either the Aukey or a CM Quickfire Rapid. Also, the Quickfire Rapid is discontinued which is why they're hard to find. They've been superseded by the MasterKeys S. If you don't need backlighting then you're only looking at about $80 brand new.

First off, thanks to everybody asking/answering questions, I have learned a lot from this thread. I have a couple of questions (looking for my first mechanical keyboard for a mix of gaming and typing, so sorry if they are dumb/repetitive):

1. Would getting a keyboard with Cherry MX Red switches be fine for gaming and typing for work at home? I want Cherry MX Brown, but one of the keyboards I'm looking at (HyperX Alloy FPS Pro) only comes in Red and I was wondering if it really makes that big of a difference that it would be more difficult to type with.
   
2. Is tenkeyless recommended? Any problems/advantages that come with a tenkeyless or full-size keyboard that I should know about (other than the shorter distance between keyboard and mouse with tenkeyless)?
   
   I am looking at these two keyboards in particular:
   HyperX Alloy FPS Pro Tenkeyless Cherry MX Red for $80
   Cooler Master MasterKeys S PBT Tenkeyless Cherry MX Brown or Red for $80
   
   Does anybody know any cheaper or better alternatives? I've done a lot of research and looked around a bunch on the wikis of this subreddit, but I was hoping for some personalized advice because I don't want to shell out $80+ and end up being dissatisfied with my choice. Thanks so much!

Yup, a basic CoolerMaster is $80.

Ok great, here are two very strong choices:

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2588

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Tenkeyless-Mechanical/dp/B071W2697M/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1499868071&sr=1-2-spons&keywords=cooler+master+keyboard&psc=1

Boards:CM MKS Brown
Caps: /dev/tty
Thanks! I'm really happy with them :)

Hey. I guess I can list the two that caught my eye, I'm just undecided on which I should get/wait for. Though if you have more suggestions that would be nice as well.

I was initially interested in the MasterKeys Pro S Non-RGB version, but I think after discussing it with you or someone else I thought that the MasterKeys S PBT would be a better buy.

You also recommended the iKBC CD87 PBT, but IIRC this brand does not go on sale. I should mention that I'm fine with TKL versions.

Both of those are currently ~$100. I remember you helped with the differences and I think I preferreed the iKBC one, but the lack of sales was holding me back and I've been in limbo since.

If there are other boards that you would recommend that are similar to these I wouldn't mind taking a look.

Meh, in that case I’m just talking about backlighting in general.

Option 1

Option 2

This is what I originally used and thought it was great for the price:

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL

Found this on amazon, They have some deals going on, only $300 right now

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL/ref=sr_1_6?crid=3QUEUIFNW7BTA&keywords=thrustmaster&qid=1574581674&sprefix=thrus%2Caps%2C218&sr=8-6

THRUSTMASTER T300RS GT

T150 thrustmaster (175 from newegg, bestbuy will honor in store price match), I went dirt cheap because I am new to the sim gig and didn't want to put up a ton of cash if I didn't like it. Now I am looking at the OSW open source wheels which is like a $1200 solution.

VR racing is my favorite use of virtual reality.

There are belt/gear driven wheels and direct drive wheels. There are a few options between 150-500 bucks, all of them will get the job done the same. If you are never going to upgrade but you want a good wheel, get a $300+ belt/gear wheel with pedal package.

Most common,

G27
or
T300

There are various models and packages both thrustmaster and logitec offer more expensive standalone wheels but at $500 dollars you start to get into premium belt/gear territory.

Fanatec CSL

Then there is the ultimate, direct drive. Fanatec just released a new wheel and there are others but we are talking 1k+ for the wheel alone.

OSW sumucube is an open source racing wheel kitted together for the user. You can find the OSW kit guide but there are a lot of parts to build and learning to go with it, the kit saves the trouble but is less expensive than other direct drive offerings.

TL;DR It is all based on price point, $150, $300, $500, $1000. I chose to go the cheapest possible route, use it until I can afford the upgrade or it breaks.

Your best bet would probably be the T300RS GT edition for around $450 - https://www.amazon.com.au/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-GT-Edition/dp/B01M1L2NRL/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=Thrustmaster+T300&qid=1555519222&s=gateway&sr=8-5

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It also comes with the T3PA pedals, which are much better than the normal 2 pedal thrustmaster option.

What? The t300 GT edition is the same price as the base model: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01M1L2NRL/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1495476170&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=thrustmaster+t300&dpPl=1&dpID=411vsJlmBML&ref=plSrch

So you'd recommend two of these?

Nice. One of the good things with the T16000M is that it's reversible- so if you want the option of dual sticks you can get a matching one and use it with your left hand instead of the throttle.

This offer is probably the best value hotas you can buy at the moment. The quality is excellent if you don't mind a plastic stick.

Its a nice joystick and currently on sale
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MQEDEEW/

> Don't by a plane with complicated systems and tricky/unique flight characteristics if you can't fly an F-15 proficiently. The FC3 planes have simplified systems but most have the same level of flight model. The F-15C and Su-27/33 are 3 of the best air to air planes in the game, so you're not at a disadvantage in that regard, if they were full fidelity they'd probably be even better (more radar modes to work with is one that comes to mind), master these then get the mirage

Thanks I think I'll stick with the FC3 planes mainly the F-15C for now, I heard that Mirage is not ransferable between Steam and Standalone so that might be a problem.

Also Can Steam players play with Standalone players?

> Get a proper hotas before going past the FC3 aircraft

So HOTAS X would be insufficient? I did look at the T16kM do I need the throttle combo? or just the stick? since I see there is what looks like a small throttle slide right there

and what do you think about the VKS Gladiator MkII stick? I've been eyeing it for a while (because I like how it looks, but expensive, I'm probably more likely to get T16K M. )

One last thing, Su-27, the engine won't start, I know the Start up sequence is pretty similar for all FC3 planes, I did the same things I do on the F-15C but the Throttle doesn't respond, there is no engine noise the plane just won' start.

MiG29 did respond to the same start up sequence, (battery>cockpit>engine>Nav lights>flaps)

Get yourself two of these and play Star Citizen!

https://smile.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-2960773-T16000M-Joystick-Black/dp/B01MQEDEEW/

Yes, DCS.

Mapping controls for flight sims is an enormous pain in the ass, no way around it. That's why I'm flummoxed as to why XP11 is so far the only legacy sim to implement motion-controlled cockpits (IL2 doesn't either.)

XP11 will give you the basics of flight and I think they have a tutorial, too. But at some point, you'll need a hotas. If you're on a budget, get a twist stick with a slider that you can use for throttle (separate throttle is way over-rated imo).

eta: i've heard good things about the t16000. Thrustmaster VG 2960773 T16000M FCS Joystick, Black - PC https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MQEDEEW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_slFYBb7HVTQW1

Get the throttle set if you're feeling rich.

I use the T16000M Joystick.

While some of the buttons are softer than I'd like, it is very good. I really enjoy racing with it.

I would go with the T.16000M (but why is it so expensive?). The new T.16000M with orange lights costs only 50€ in Europe and 59$ in the US link.

But if you can spend more (and i mean a lot more) i would go for a VKB Gladiator Pro or the better Gunfighter plus pedals. I just ordered a pair of gunfighters with rudder predals for 900€ (plus another 500€ for better grips and twist adapters after they come out next year).

Imho is for space sims a dual stick setup the best option because you need 6 axes (one for each of the 6DOF). Right now i use 2 T.16000M til my new sticks arrive. And for warthunder you only need one stick without throttle since the T.16000M has a throttle slider.

You are in luck! These guys (which are generally recommended) are on sale: https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-2960773-T16000M-Joystick-Black/dp/B01MQEDEEW

Get two for a HOSAS setup.

There's the Thrustmaster t.16000M stick. It's a little light on hats, but from what I've heard it's pretty quality otherwise. Amazon link here

This is the new version

Amazon VG T16000M

Not sure if they are still making the older one, I currently have 2.

I use the Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS and also got a second Warthog Stick for a dual stick setup.

http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/accessories/apd/a9168831?cid=309562&st=&gclid=CLWYqP6dk9QCFR1LDQodiiAAFw&lid=5848362&VEN1=s7nLQ1cQ4,183457792450,901pdb6671,m,,A9168831&VEN2=,&dgc=ST&DGSeg=DHS&acd=1230980731501410&VEN3=812403894302130950

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CBVHJ00/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_IJXkzbZ5X9RT3

I also use the VKB Rudder Pedals.

http://store-x-plane-org.3dcartstores.com/VKB-T-Rudder-Pedals-MkIV_p_571.html

As for matching sticks, I am waiting to get the VIRPIL grips since they fit on the Warthog bases.

https://virpil.com/en/filtered/gpips/


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Alternatively, you can go with two VKB Gunfighter bases and wait for VKB SIM to release their newer right handed and left handed grips (which you can purchase later).

https://vkbcontrollers.com/?product=vkb-sim-gunfighter-base-only

Or perhaps two VKB Gladiator Pros for now and update both grips or just the left grip later when they eventually release:

https://vkbcontrollers.com/?product=vkb-gladiator

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Another way to go about it is getting two T16000 sticks (for a dual stick setup):

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MQEDEEW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_8UXkzbM4P2BW7

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Or just go with the T16000 HOTAS (with or without pedals):

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KCHPRXA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_PVXkzbAW6TM7K

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015PII6YI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_yWXkzb0KK7FTK

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Now although there are other options, like the Saitek products (X52, X55/X56) and CH products, those just aren't my cup of tea and too many problems plague the Saitek products that they don't seem to be worth investing in. I returned mine and got the Warthog setup and it's so much better. Night and day difference.

I hope I have listed enough choices at different price points to help you make a more informed decision.

And YES, DUAL STICKS are the best :D

says you can order and they'll ship when ready.

I personally recommend this setup:

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-16000M-FCS-HOTAS-Controller/dp/B01KCHPRXA

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-2960773-T16000M-Joystick-Black/dp/B01MQEDEEW/ (stick only)

Only $100 for stick and throttle, $50 for just the stick. Throttle has enough buttons that you won't need to touch your keyboard. I don't recommend just the stick on its own, having a stick + throttle really is the way to go.

First, sorry for my shortcutting on the joystick. I was referring to the Thrustmaster T16000M. Same idea, basically, other than I am less interested in the full SIM, and am more likely to go with a HOSAS rather than HOTAS experience. As a side, I have a passionate interest in peripheral interfaces overall. I worked with a rehabilitation center in a Kinesiology College at a University, and I helped with the IT for laboratories which were using video game technology to combine with engineering to help people with disabilities. That included everything from people with MS interacting with Ocular Rift, to wheelchair rehab, etc. So I really geek out on ultra high dpi controls.

You did answer my question on that I would need an expansion for planetary landings and buggy exploration. That is a thing I like about the game's potential. I watched some videos by ObsidianAnt and they did interest me.

I think for me to subscribe, realizing that I'll have to spend some cash to do what I want and face some grindy elements, I'll basically see if I can find some social interaction that makes it worth my while.

I was skeptical but hopeful for years, until I saw Hurston and Lorville get released, and I finally jumped in both-feet during the end of the last Anniversary sale. Player-generated clips like this one and this one definitely helped convince me... I mean look at that, it's all actually there in the game, nothing is a backdrop only for viewing from that spot on some map, that sun isn't rising, the earth-sized planet you are on is spinning in space.

My biggest suggestion: get a proper HOTAS, or at least a stick with a throttle on it and some good base-area buttons - I use an old Saitek X-52 that interestingly enough is being re-released in a few weeks. There are some serious mil-sim level ones out there too. The T-Flight Hotas X and T16000M are popular for the budget-minded (although Star Citizen will rapidly change your mind about what "sensible expenditure" in a game means lol). Get a used one if you want a killer one but can't afford new (seriously though, $60 man, very worth it), but it's a huge help not having to go to keyboard commands for anything flight-related, including targeting, countermeasures, scanners, thruster controls, etc. When hopping out of your flight seat (either to do something in your ship or get out of it entirely), just have the mouse and keyboard positioned to either side of the flight stick, easy. You'll use the mouse in the cockpit a fair bit too, to interact with the MFDs sometimes for things like requesting landing clearance, changing MFD functions, overclocking components on the ship, etc,. It's the most immersive sci-fi flight/FPS/society game I've ever seen.

I'd highly recommend to get in as soon as they announce Update 3.5, adding the entirely new planet ArcCorp, its main landing area for spaceships Area 18, several moons, and the long-awaited new flight model, go Public Live in a few more days. Fly your starter ship (I recommend the Avenger Stalker starter ship or the Cutlass Black package for the bit of cargo space you get, helps make a little money and can still fight ), enjoy a bit of mission running, exploration etc, and learn the world, and when the next massive Anniversary Sale comes around in November you'll know what ships you really want and can make informed decisions, as the sales they have at that time are awesome.

Whatever starter package you get, it'll need to be a "Game Package" that includes the base game as well, and after that one-time buy you just buy standalone ships or packages if you want to pay real money, or you can buy many of them in-game for game-money (UEC) if you make enough (many good ones are millions of UEC). The advantage of paying real money is that they will be with you forever - as they make major updates CIG usually resets all accounts to starter levels again, and you lose anything you earned in that version of Alpha - but you also have many advantages in Alpha that will not be present in the final game so still worth it to buy cheaper ships in-game IMO.

^edit: ^added ^bit ^about ^game ^packages

Well, I skimmed through your videos, and thank you for your input, however, the work you are talking about it beyond my skill level. I found a T160000M direct from Amazon for $60 new, so I ordered one. If I like it, I will probably order a second one. If I decide I would prefer to use a throttle, I still have the throttle from my X-55.

Now I just need to figure out what to do with these old sticks....

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MQEDEEW/

Back in stock with price increase?

> Price: $72.62 & FREE Shipping

> Only 18 left in stock.

> Sold by Beach Audio

What the fuck thrustmaster...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MQEDEEW

That's the one I got off of Amazon. It's not super cheap but it's way less than the other ones they offer, in case you're looking for something new.

No, because two sticks are $120. The HOTAS is $110 on sale.

So I emailed thrustmaster and this is what they sent me:

>We thank you for your interest in Thrustmaster products and for reaching us regarding your inquiry.
>
>The initial versions of this new product will be as following:
>
>- the FCS throttle available as a standalone device;
>
>- the throttle and the joystick unit, as a package;
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>- T.16000 Flight Package (the FCS joystick and throttle units accompanied by the TFRP Rudders Pedals pedal set).
>
>We are also taking into consideration the commercialization of the T.16000 FCS joystick as a standalone device but at this moment we cannot provide you with an ETA on when this will become available.
>
>We rest at your disposal for any other inquiries.

That being said it looks like it for preorder outside of the states and bhphotovideo.com also has one.

EDIT: welp they are available in the sates for preorder now amazon link I don't understand why they would send an email saying they don't know if they will be selling it on its own when they were going to allow stores to announce that they are the very next day.

For all you commanders wielding a dual joystick setup, you can finally purchase the new Thrustmaster T16000m flight stick separate from the new HOTAS throttle. Available 28 November 2016.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01MQEDEEW/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1479119919&sr=8-2&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=Thrustmaster+VG&dpPl=1&dpID=41ddxyOeLrL&ref=plSrch

Edit: For those looking for international shipping. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=1296153&gclid=CJWs1I2MqNACFdglvQod70EObg&is=REG&c3api=1876%2C50960586482%2C%2C&Q=&A=details&pcur=AUD

From what I've heard, Redragon make some very well made mechanical keyboards for very cheap prices, here's one on amazon with RGB lighting:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NAI2TXC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_gm9HybJJNQMK2

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K556-Mechanical-Keyboard-Aluminum/dp/B01NAI2TXC/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=redragon+k556&qid=1562896534&s=gateway&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1#customerReviews

I got the ones with Brown switches. However, this keyboard only works on specific systems. On my old desktop, the keyboard doesn't do this animation, but on my new one, it does.

The other guy's recommendation is pretty solid, if you want a full-size one there's this.

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K556-Mechanical-Keyboard-Aluminum/dp/B01NAI2TXC/ref=sr_1_4?crid=33EBP6L0PQ602&keywords=mechanical%2Bkeyboard%2Bbrown%2Bswitches&qid=1565206371&s=gateway&sprefix=mechanical%2Bkeyboard%2Bbrow%2Caps%2C203&sr=8-4&th=1

I'm having trouble deciding between the redragon K561 , K556 , K557 , K558 , and the Vava mechanical keyboard

I have no idea which one would be better for me, and with most of them i can barely see any real differences apart from with or without numpad (which i never use). Does anyone know which of these would be the best choice?

Redragon K556 Mechanical Keyboard and Logitech G502

Oh.

In that case:

• Eagletec KG010
  
• Poseidon Z RGB
  
• Devaraias K556 RGB
  
• Roccat Ryos MK Glow
  
• Azio MGK1-K
  
• Cougar 600k (Has $15 shipping, BTW, tried to stay $100 or less.)
  
  As for a mouse, I'd recommend:
  
  
• Rival 310
  
• [Razer Deathadder Elite] (https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01LXC1QL0/?tag=pcp0f-20)
  
• Logitech G403
  
• Roccat Kone EMP
  
  EDIT: NVM, just realized you went ahead.

Personally I was using https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K556-Mechanical-Keyboard-Aluminum/dp/B01NAI2TXC/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1517855594&sr=8-9&keywords=redragon+mechanical+keyboard before i picked up a 910 orion and i enjoyed it... Give it a shot its a little more than you said $58 but... It looks good, feels good... and has a decent amount of things you'd expect(anti ghosting), swappable keys, etc etc...

I bought this one for $60 US, and I absolutely love it. It’s mechanical with brown switches, multiple color settings, and it feels like it’s very good quality!

You can find it under different name: Redragon k556.
Brown switch: https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K556-Mechanical-Keyboard-Aluminum/dp/B01NAI2TXC
Blue switch: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Redragon-K556-RGB-LED-Backlit-Wired-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-104-Floating-Keys-/222396670082?hash=item33c7dfe082:g:4y8AAOSwUKxYkuq8

So I was searching around a bit more since you guys made some compelling arguments and found another pretty cool contender. The Redragon K556 Devarajas seems really awesome. This one is actually all metal unlike the corsair, still has all the features I liked about the corsair, and is quite a bit cheaper!

Also, I was checking out the brands you guys suggested, like Ducky and Coolermaster but it seems that they charge a bit more for the backlighting. Ducky has some really nice ones but they tend to run at around 150 with RGB, while coolermaster runs about 140.

My logic here is that the Redragon could hold me over for a couple of years until I have a better job and can afford a 150-200 dollar range keyboard.

Fingers crossed that ya'll like the Redragon haha

is this a good mechanical keyboard and deal?

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K556-Mechanical-Keyboard-Aluminum/dp/B01NAI2TXC/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1542324787&sr=8-9&keywords=mechanical+keyboard

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823816085&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL042117&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL042117-_-EMC-042117-Index-_-GamingKeyboards-_-23816085-S2A4B&ignorebbr=1

was $80 until it sold out. have a good one

edit: https://www.amazon.com/RK-Setting-Mechanical-Keyboard-Switches/dp/B01KJTG62M/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1492922378&sr=1-2&keywords=brown+switch+rgb

have another. he did not ask for cherry specifically. he asked for browns

edit: https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K556-Mechanical-Keyboard-Aluminum/dp/B01NAI2TXC/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1492922378&sr=1-1&keywords=brown+switch+rgb

have another

Hi guys im looking for a cheap rgb mechanical brown keyboard, the colors are super important to me and i just wanted to know which of these had the better colors.
https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K556-Mechanical-Keyboard-Aluminum/dp/B01NAI2TXC/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1492588194&sr=8-4&keywords=rgb+brown+switch+keyboard


or


https://www.walmart.com/ip/Global-Marketing-Partners-Excalibur-Spectrum-Brown-Switch-Full-Color-Keyboard/45810387?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=1896&adid=22222222227033077827&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=76977009911&wl4=pla-133673071991&wl5=9031154&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=113134512&wl11=online&wl12=45810387&wl13=&veh=sem
it seems like the greens on the tesoro arent visible

Is it possible to remove the audible click from a keyboards switches? I'm looking at getting the Redragon K556: https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K556-Mechanical-Keyboard-Aluminum/dp/B01NAI2TXC/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1492304422&sr=8-14&keywords=redragon

It has the keypad on the side which is something I was looking for, and the RGB backlight that I can customize. But can I get a bag of O-Rings to dampen the switchers? From reading reviews it looks like they use otemu switches, but I've seen that most O-rings should work with them. I'd like to damped the noise so I don't wake up my daughter after she goes to sleep, is this a viable option?

Hello guys looking for reference which is better from these 2 keyboards or if I should opt for another option. I took the redragon as an option because someone told me that its cheaper than the glorious and offers the same.

Redragon k556 devarajas


Glorious Gaming Mechanical Keyboard


Thanks

Can't find an r556, I assume you mean the k556? https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K556-Mechanical-Keyboard-Aluminum/dp/B01NAI2TXC/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
Only differences are it's RGB, it's got a numberpad, and it's Brown witches, the k552 is Blue, Brown switches are a bit quieter and the tactical bump is more subtle. They're both good switches and quality wise the k552 and k556 are very similar and you'd be happy with either, just depends on which keys you want and if you want RGB and a numpad.

Just look around on Amazon and read some reviews. There are so many affordable mechanical keyboards these days and with a budget of $60 you have lots of options if you choose to go mechanical. Here are some good mechanical options/brands:

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K556-Mechanical-Keyboard-Aluminum/dp/B01NAI2TXC/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1505072205&sr=8-9&keywords=red+dragon+keyboard
Red Dragon is rising star in peripheral market, they are geared towards wallet conscious consumers, but offer some good products.

https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Blackwidow-Ultimate-2016-Refurbished/dp/B01LXOPFWP/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1505072792&sr=8-8&keywords=razer+keyboards
Here is a refurbished Black Widow Ultimate from Razer, which as you probably know is a renowned reputable brand. This offers green back lighting like you requested and is right at the $60 mark.

https://www.amazon.com/Cougar-Attack-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B01938BWZG/ref=sr_1_28?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1505073256&sr=1-28&keywords=CHERRY+MX+keyboard
This keyboard lacks green or rgb lighting, but does offer Cherry MX switches in either blue, red, or brown. Cherry MX switches are German made mechanical switches and are generally regarded as the best switches you can get. I personally own a Corsair K65 RGB (the oringal, not the lux) with Cherry MX Reds and its fantastic, but at $170 bucks its out of your price range and the price has become inflated anyway.

If you really value led lighting non mechanical keyboards are the best way to get your RGB fix. While not as fast or in my opinion as nice to type on there are many wonderful options in the way of membrane keyboards.
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Gaming-K55-Keyboard-Backlit/dp/B01M4LIKLI/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1505073832&sr=1-3&keywords=RGB+keyboard
If you don't want to go mechanical this Corsair 55 is a great alternative. This does not offer per key back-lighting, but has some great lighting effects that beat out most mechanical keyboards in this price range. By the way, this keyboard is only $50.

There you have it my super long comment regarding keyboards. As I said before, spend some time on Amazon researching keyboards in more detail, but the ones I listed are in my opinion some of the best options in your price range.

There is the Redragon K556 full size with cherry browns for roughly $50.

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K556-Mechanical-Keyboard-Aluminum/dp/B01NAI2TXC

What keycaps does this board use? I want to replace some modifiers.

Redragon K556 RGB LED Backlit Wired Mechanical Gaming Keyboard, Aluminum Base, 104 Standard Keys https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NAI2TXC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_BkcRzbVTHP8M9

They look like OEM. Can anyone confirm?

Is this a good choice? I was looking for a keyboard with a numpad that lights up, don't care about programmable keys at all.

Hey, I'm looking for a board with the following features:

Full-size or 90%
Stiff-ish, tactile, quiet switches. MX Clear or Brown or comparable
Orange or Red or RGB backlighting
As non-gamery as possible
~$50 US
Actually available
Media keys and replaceable switches is a plus, but not strictly necessary
Edit: bigass enter keys need not apply

So far, I'm looking at the following:

Redragon K556. RGB, replaceable (Otemu?) Browns. Looks alright, but I'm not big on the plank-with-keys-on-top style.
Redragon K578. RGB, non-replaceable Browns, has a nice plain look apart from the dorky keycap font and red logo.
Kaihua K16 White LED with Brown Switches. Looks nice but I'd prefer a warm-color LED. "Out of stock. No available estimate." Wonderful.

Anyone have experience these, or other recommendations in the same price range?

I'm currently sporting a Redragon K551, which is long out of warranty and developing key chatter issues in several keys.

I just got this today. I love it.

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https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K556-Mechanical-Keyboard-Aluminum/dp/B01NAI2TXC/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=redragon+mx+brown&qid=1556595022&s=gateway&sr=8-3

I've been quite happy with my Redragon K556. They're not true Cherry MX switches, but typing still feels good. General construction feels good. And the RGB is programmable so you can tone it down if you don't want a crazy disco party. It's $60 USD, but presumably a little cheaper across the pond.

Hey I actually have Redragon K556 with brown switches, I believe they use the same innards, let me know if you’re interested
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NAI2TXC/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1518721732&sr=8-1-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=redragon+k556&psc=1

I have a similar one that's $60 and it's awesome

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NAI2TXC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Hello everyone,

I bought a keyboard off amazon and it was not very loud for being a mechanical keyboard.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NAI2TXC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I am trying to find one that is loud. I have a budget at about $100

Hey all. I'm new here and I'm also new to mechanical keyboards. I'm basically looking for a budget, rgb, brown switch keyboard that is relatively quiet.

I currently have this and, while I love the feel, it's obnoxiously loud. However, this keyboard from the same company has brown switches (Outemu?) and reviews are good. I'm also open to the option of getting o-rings if absolutely necessary. Thoughts?

Do you mind tenkeyless or need any other features?

Someone on here pointed this one out to me: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NAI2TXC/ref=psdcmw_172487_t1_B00YMDYMYQ

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NAI2TXC/ref=psdcmw_172487_t1_B00YMDYMYQ

Durable metal construction, custom lighting creation, mechanical keys, and pretty cheap.

I bought one as my backup keyboard in browns to be quieter during late night sessions. I've had it for over 6 months and have no complaints.

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new to vive: looking for suggestions to hit the ground running! by seapodstudios


howdy.

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my first vive set arrived today as follows:

Black Friday bundle of the HTC VIVE Virtual Reality System comes with a free VIVE Deluxe Audio Strap and includes Fallout 4 VR, Google’s Tilt Brush, and a free trial for Viveport Subscription.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VF5NT4I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/HTC-Vive-Deluxe-Audio-Strap-pc/dp/B06Y2GDXMC/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1511815008&sr=1-3&keywords=vive+headset

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i have also ordered a tripod setup as follows:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004U5F3OE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VAH3KWC/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2TNW8ZCY8P5MD&psc=1

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the vive hardware arrived today (!) and the rest is set to arrive wednesday along with my first alienware box (wootwoot). i'm hoping to hit the ground running on wednesday with regard to any extension cables i might need to cover a 10'x10'x10' play space that will be covered by an 8'x10' carpet on hardwood for tactile reinforcement of the concierge.

if anybody has any tips/links to share re: pitfalls to avoid during setup that would also be greatly appreciated.