Monios-L T8 LED Grow Light 2FT, 144W(6×24W) High Output Plant Grow Light Strip, Full Spectrum Sunlight Replacement with High PAR for Indoor Plant, 6-Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QFPBQDR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ZfqJDbVB0P29V

These ones are the best ones I’ve found. Doesn’t make your space look like you’re obviously growing weed since it’s white light lol and doesn’t give off a ton of heat which burns my plants. Also I like that the bulbs are curved and have 3 led strips per light so I have more versatility in my set up.

This post will get downvoted to oblivion, but sadly this is simply the wrong sub to ask this question, unfortunately. As usual when this question gets asked here, every answer is ignoring your query, dismissing your budget, and instead is insisting that you NEED to spend 2-3 times as much instead. This simply isn't true, and this elitist attitude creates an unnecessary obstacle to people wanting to get their feet wet in this hobby.

You can achieve perfectly acceptable results with a 600 watts LED like this one..

Similarly, this one is a good choice for getting started.

In point of fact, there is a ton of snobbery and bro-science in this hobby. Interestingly the latest research on this subject seems to indicate that tuned-spectrum grow-lights might even be a waste of money, and that bog-standard 5000k LED light bulbs might be perfectly adequate for maximizing indoor-growing yields, at the least.

The Impact of Light Intensity and Spectrum-Tuning on Cannabis Yields

>The results show that holding all else constant, cannabis yields are primarily driven by the intensity of the lighting, whereas there is little evidence that tuned-spectrum lights have a significant increase in yield versus general-purpose, broad-spectrum lights. Moreover, the positive, apparently linear relationship between intensity and yields continues at least to 1500 µmols/m2· s, which is over twice the level provided by an HPS fixture in a grow configuration, which is currently the industry standard. These results are important for two reasons: First, many horticulture LED lights are tuned-spectrum varieties that justify a significant price premium above commoditized broad-spectrum LEDs by arguing that their proprietary spectrum increases the value of a grower’s yields. It is possible that spectrum tuning may improve the cannabinoid profile substantially enough to justify a price premium, but our results provide no evidence that spectrum tuning increases yields. Rather, the more profitable strategy would be to buy commoditized, high-intensity, broad-spectrum LEDs (like flood lights), which are about one-third the cost per watt of horticulture LEDs. The second reason these results are important is that the vast majority of growers use HPS lights. Those who use LED lights are using lights that were designed to use less electricity while providing the same light intensity as an HPS. Our results suggest that both these strategies reduce the grower’s expected profits, since both provide less light than is optimal when trying to maximize yields.

Having read this, I purchased these LED bulbs, splitters, and hanging cords from Amazon, and am running two of those on a single plant in my north facing window as an experiment. So far, the plant is doing just fine, and it seems to be progressing as well as the plant I have under a 600 watt COB.

About 16 hours under this grow light https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075JFPLY1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_w.w9AbZK8EVS0

A bit over 2 oz per plant cured bud (plus a decent amount of low grade cannaoil from the leaves), so 12 oz+ per year. I have a small grow tent, and I use a Marshydro 300.

https://www.maximumyield.com/what-is-required-for-plants-to-breath/7/3091

Durring photosynthesis plants release much more oxygen than they consume. Photosynthesis requires light, not necessarily sun light. LED Grow lights are low cost (~$25) and consume little power (~25watts).

https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Panel-Spectrum-Growing-Flowering/dp/B01IVQ96KY/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1511753012&sr=8-4&keywords=led+grow+light

In fact, indoor plants not only improve air quality, but also have a calming effect, reducing panic in a stressful situation.

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Why would you want to have dim bulbs in your bunker?

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TL;DR: see links below.

Beyond the actual science of which light is best, it really depends for many casual plant owners whether they want the light to look "decor friendly" or they want it to do a bang-up job of growing their plants. Honestly, there aren't many effective lights that look like they belong in a residence. No matter what anyone says, when it comes to grow lights, you do get what you pay for.

Below are 5 well-recommended options. I own all these (and others), having tried many entry-level grow lights. They're ordered by price, low to high, from $15 bulbs that go in ordinary lamps to an excellent entry-level grow light for about $175. The lower end work best as a supplement for natural light. The higher end will let you grow almost anything, even without a window.

Hope this helps you. Any questions, just ask. And yes, there are detailed, technical, scientific explanations for why these are better options than others; you can dive in there if you choose. Let's get to those 5 lights:

Miracle LED Almost Free Energy 100W Spectrum Grow Lite - Daylight White Full Spectrum LED Indoor Plant Growing Light Bulb for DIY Horticulture, Hydroponics, and Indoor Gardens Single Pack

ACKE LED Grow Light for Indoor Plants,Plant Light for Grow Light Stand,DIY Indoor Growing Light Panel for Germination,Seedling,Vegetative Growth and Flowering

Three Heads Grow Lamp, Bevice Full Spectrum LED Plant Light Auto ON&Off with 3/6/12H Timer and Memory Function, Light Intensity Adjustable, for House Plants Seedling Growing Blooming Fruiting

Roleadro LED Grow Light 1000W Full Spectrum 3500k Sunlike Plant Light Dual-Chip with ON/Off Switch and Daisy Chain for Indoor Plants for Seedling,Succulents,Growing,Blooming and Fruiting

Spider Farmer SF 1000 LED Grow Light,with Samsung Chips LM301B & Dimmable Mean Well Driver, Sunlike Full Spectrum 3000K 5000K 660nm 760nm IR for Indoor Plants Veg Flower

Would a fixture like this solve the directional issues of a bulb style light? Just downloaded a light meter, what lux measurement is the goal at the leaves?

I'm not the person you asked, but I've been using these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IVQ96KY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

So far EVERYTHING I put under them does fantastic. I have apple seeds that sprouted really fast, I have succulents, I have a few flowers and things that don't like too much cold. Everything is doing super well.

Lights: I have the mars hydro 300 (132 true watts) as my main light on the top, and plan to add a couple strips for side lighting in the near future.

Ventilation: As you may see from the pictures, I have the heat exhaust on the top side. The exhaust is being pulled into a secondary tote. In the secondary tote I have a large carbon filter attached to a 6 inch inline fan with variable speed control. This kit. Definitely overkill but I like the room for expansion.

I plan to start growing in a 3 gallon smart pot knock off, with some ak-48 autoflower seeds.

I have really enjoyed watching this community grow through the years.

Thank you everyone for your wonderful contributions. Guys like /u/Ekrof, SAG, /u/Halfmpty, /u/exactly25smeckles, and the rest have really inspired me to try this for myself.

I would like to add some filtration to my passive intake, any suggestions?

You’ll need to buy grow lights. :))

I use these two though other growers might recommend better:

LED Grow Light Bulb, TaoTronics... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0748D2SMB?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Dimmable Spectrum Plant Grow... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DH47QZM?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Thanks /r/SpaceBuckets for being such a great resource!

Right now I'm using:

• Philizon 600W LED blurple light (actual ~100w)
  
• 5 x Blumat stakes
  
• 2 x AC Infinity 120 V fans
  
• Fox Farms trio of nutrients (haven't started using them)
  
• 25% perlite, 60% local potting soil that doesn't have extended-release nutes, and 15% MiracleGro organic soil (will see how it goes...)
  
• 2 x ~40gal heavy-duty totes
  
• Oodles of electrical tape

I was cheap and just bought these from Amazon. I have them about two inches away from the top of these succulents. The lights stay on for 8-10 hours.

this, and it’s cheaper.

This hobby could really benefit from learning stuff from weed growers.

Not at all! Here's the link!
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07LG39B3M?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

They're under this Apollo Horticulture GL60LED Full Spectrum 180W LED Grow Light from Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FGFW0XO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_wvS4DbB3R91HY) about 11 - 12 hours a day.

The soil is a 60/40 ish mix of Miracle Gro cactus mix and bonsai jack. I sifted a thin top layer to create a finer layer of dirt for the seedlings to root into initially.

Temperature fluctuates, but I would estimate that they're kept between 67-74 depending on the season.

I also grew them in the KORAM 10 Sets Seed Starter Trays (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LX0JBUU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_HDS4Db30AQAJR), so I kept the soil moist pretty much constantly until recently when I've been able to neglect them more and let it dry out a bit. I admit my watering is kind of arbitrary and I've been hoping for the best since this was my first attempt at growing from seeds lol. I have another more detailed comment somewhere else that I could find if you need more info 😊

I wouldn't bother with those lights. I was on the exact same boat as you a couple of weeks ago. Skmood1 actually pointed me in the right direction.

I'm not sure what your budget is, but you may want to look into COB LIGHTS. They are 1000 leagues better than the viparspectra and all those LEDS in the same tier. They use pretty old tech apparently.

I just started to learn ins and outs of LED, if I'm wrong here, please correct me
Lets take a look at a couple of the numbers Vipar provides (last picture on amazon). Looking at their spectrum sheet, right off the bat the light you selected will under perform where it matters, flowering; buds. It lacks a good deal of red spectrum light. However with that said, it'll be a decent light for veg, worth it? No, but decent. I won't say worth it, because now you want to look at efficiency and lumen per watt. Efficiency in terms of led is basically how much light is produced versus heat from your LED panel.
The Vipar has a pretty shitty efficiency, it loks like you'll be prducing 67% of heat vs 33% of usable light. With COBs, you can essentially choose your own, going all the way up to 70% light. With lower efficiency, you'll get more lumen per watt (more light, I guess?). The next step up are Quantum Boards, but those are always out of stock!

Just a heads up, COBs are generally more expensive outright, and there maybe a little DIY involved, but it totally worth it. I was running the 600w viparspectra PAR series for 2 weeks, and my seedlings grew about 3 inches. I moved over to a 2 cob array (less power than my vipar), and in 1 day I see 2 new growth leaves, both plants grew at least half an inch, I was blown out of the water.

P.S.- this one looks better: Mars Hydro 300w
https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Spectrum-Certification-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B00XC3LBI2/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_86_tr_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=FHW46JTAZPEMSK6H1VS4&dpID=51clUyqI-5L&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=detail

Check out the spectrum chart! Good luck and have fun. I killed sooooo many seedlings, purchased sooooo many unnecessary things, but the people here helped me every step of the way. You're in proper hands.

Anyone tried these? I’m looking for something in this price range

I have 3 sets of these guys (so 6 total lights) - https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07LG39B3M?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

They are hooked up to a $10 smart timer that's programmed to cycle the lights, 4 hours on and 10 minutes off (recommended by the manufacturer).

I've had them for 3 months and have observed decent growth and farina coloring.

They're T8 grow lights! I got them from Amazon.

Pm me your mailing address and email and I will send you the 8 photoperiod seeds I have left that /u/effectiveambassador was kind enough to send me last year. Statistically, you should get 4 females from this. (Oddly all the sends he sent me have turned out to be female.)

After that, you are set, as you simply clone your best females going forward. Plants look like this grown in bog-standard potting soil, germinated and vegged under these 5000K bulbs, and flowered under this blurple.

I have these little guys from Amazon

They do the trick nicely for smaller shelves or set ups. There’s several different versions on there. They run around $15-19.

Nothing special, just one of these from Amazon:

https://smile.amazon.com/Upgraded-Dimmable-Spectrum-Adjustable-Gooseneck/dp/B07H57K565

This has been 3+ months of 24/7 light. I'm not sure if that's advisable but I've had fun experimenting.

I followed /u/spkmoneky's lid build and it's been phenomenal.

I bought this light: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FGFW0XO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And this muffin fan:
https://www.amazon.com/AC-Infinity-Cooling-Ventilation-Projects/dp/B009OWRMZ6/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=ac+infinity+muffin+fan&qid=1558105478&s=lawn-garden&sr=8-2

And followed this write up: https://old.reddit.com/r/SpaceBuckets/comments/8ktr9b/my_ufo_bucket_lid_installation_tips_instructions/

Fits like a dream and works wonderfully!

I added a speed controller for better noise control and it's been spectacular: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00809BQZG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It's led grow lights with bulbs in several different spectrums, like this. OP is growing the dank in his closet.

https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Upgrade-Developed-Spectrum-Generation/dp/B01HI3AFYM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491614917&sr=8-1&keywords=roleadro+300w get this one, I use it and tons of people recommend it on here. I had one which has worked great in a 2x2x4 tent and just added another one.

Sure! They're 10x10inch (11x11?) 45w panels that run off a regular 110 outlet. They do not have an on/off switch, but if I put my plants outside I just unplug them from the timer and there hasn't been a problem. I don't believe these are waterproof so beware if you plan to use on a porch or in a green house.

Hmmm what else.... I have them about 6 inches from the top of most my plants (I actually used my Lola to measure from). The only plant I have propped up closer to the lights is my aeonium kiwi because I want to see if she'll develop the pink outline on her leaves if she's closer. They don't get super hot, but they do get warm, and there has been very little impact on the electric bill (I run them 12 hours a day on a timer). Let me know if you have any more questions I didn't cover!

here you go!

So I'm gonna be that guy and tell you the answer you don't want to hear which is that you're not likely to be able to achieve what you're trying to do in the location you want without some major drawbacks.

Your seeds aren't thriving because they're not getting enough light. You can tell because your sprouts are so leggy (i.e. tall and thin with few/no leaves). When plants first sprout, they come pre-packaged with leaves that are part of the seed that expand as the plant absorbs water and are what collect the initial light energy which the seedling will then use to construct its own true leaves. If the starter leaves are not receiving enough energy, the plant will delay growing new leaves and instead try to grow taller so that those leaves get better light exposure. That's what causes leggy plants, which bring a host of annoying problems, hence why its usually easier to start fresh and make sure they get light from the get-go. Seeds which are getting enough light will produce very little in terms of stem height but will instead use that energy to start producing more leaves right away. Here's a shot of some lettuce (on the right) with zero legginess and bell pepper seedlings sprouted with minimal legginess. Note that the bell pepper seedlings on the left could probably use yet more light.

Artificial lights put out nowhere near as much as natural sunlight unless you get into the really high caliber stuff. To give you an idea on artificial lighting requirements, here's what's lighting part of my herb garden. That fixture has four 24 watt fluorescent bulbs, coupled with angled reflectors above them to maximize the amount of light hitting the plant. If you're interested, here is that light fixture on Amazon. I recommend this regularly to anyone trying to grow using artificial light. Lux output (a measurement of the amount of light per sq ft) from that is ~15,000 lux at an appropriate distance from the plant, which is about what these herbs need to grow. A single 15 watt bulb like yours probably gets into the 3,000 - 5,000 lux range. You also seem to have a cover over the light, which probably reduces the output as well. Another thing to note is you want your light as close as possible to your plants. They shouldn't be touching it, but they should be (for flourescents at least) maybe a few inches from it. Light saturation decreases rapidly with distance, so the further they are, the less oomph they're getting from it. Your lower hanging plants are getting less light for sure.

Keep in mind that different types of plants have different lighting requirements. Leafy plants light herbs and lettuces can sustain themselves off of something like I showed just fine. However anything that produces a fruit or vegetable will need even more light. Like three or four times as much light as the fixture I showed earlier.

Back in the day most people used something like this, a high pressure sodium light, for their indoor fruits/veggies. This one puts out about 45,000 lux. Think like football stadium lights. These things get painfully bright and also get very hot, plus they require a large ballast (power source) to run. You want your plants at least 2 ft from these otherwise they'll burn. Regardless, it's definitely not something you'd want under your sink, since you wouldn't be able to be in the same room when it was on or else you'd be blinded.

The more recent alternative in artificial light is LED lights. These things put out way less lux, but the light they do put out is concentrated on very specific wavelengths which are ideal for plants. I'm using this one to grow tomatoes and bell peppers, and one light is about enough for one, maybe two plants. They don't get hot at all, but their light output is still uncomfortably bright and the color is just dreadful. Imagine a pink so searing that it makes your head hurt. Here's a picture of some bell peppers, taken from the relative shade under the canopy. Definitely not something you want in your kitchen for the same reason as the HPS: you wouldn't want to be in the room when it's turned on. I grow the bell peppers in a light-opaque grow tent and the tomatoes in a closet I converted for that purpose.

My recommendation: forget about the veggies for now. You're not going to get them to grow without a light source which will be impractical under the sink. Stick with herbs, which work just fine under fluorescent light. Up your light output by getting a higher output light fixture. Rearrange how they hang so that all four of your planters are much closer to the light. And start from scratch once you've done so. You might potential save that batch if you got a new light right away, but they'll have gotten a leggy start, so they'll always be slightly deformed.

If you want blurple lights, the MarsHydro is a go to. T5 and T8 fluorescent bulbs/fixtures are a usual grow light suggestion.

How many plants do you want to support? What stages of growth?

8-12 plants in that space is not gonna work. I would do 1-2 if you wanna scrog and 3 if you're not. And those are max amounts. Realistically 2 is already pushing it.

And those lights really are garbage man. Get a refund if you can asap.

For your size tent/room I would get either 2 of these


1

or 2 of these

2

I've been wanting to try and LED grow for a while now. The biggest issue I came across was getting enough true watts at an affordable price.

I think the best bang for buck right now is to build your own DIY COB light setup, but I was lazy and wanted something tangible quickly.

Hunted around on Craigslist and different forums till I found enough new and used LEDs to set up my tent. All LEDs together cost me a total of $320

https://i.imgur.com/q49VCgn.jpg

(Everything but the King Plus LED was used in the tent. I had the 1200w King Plus LED (~250w true) in the veg chamber, but it was burning my current mother plant).

Flower chamber has 3 LEDs running:
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https://i.imgur.com/DrTo0H9.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ld5Maug.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/hLB7ZXr.jpg

The left and right LEDs are:
VIPARSPECTRA Reflector-Series 450W (200w true) LEDs

And the middle LED is made by Morsen:
1200w (340w true) Morsen 200x6w LED

The seedling / clone chamber houses 2:
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100w BlackStar UFO's

https://i.imgur.com/GDGkuLL.jpg

The veg / mother plant chamber runs 2:
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Roleadro 300w (~125w true) LEDs

https://i.imgur.com/TUyL5m7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Rnm2pQ4.jpg

Yes but that's a higher end and overpriced light, with that money you're better off using a COB fixture, you can save a lot of money buying a roleadro 2nd gen and get good results, either their 300 or 600 depending on the area you're looking to cover. Here, and here if you want more quality.

I intend to cover it with more of the black walnut that's used above, but in a Japanese shoji lamp-style, so there will be a lamp at the bottom.

Basics of the setup:

• Grow area: 3" PVC pipes with 2" net cups spaced every few inches. The pipes have water running to each row and can be detached separately for cleaning.
  
• Overflow gutter: 4" PVC pipes cut lengthwise hold the 3" PVC pipes so that in the event of an overflow, the water goes into these gutters.
  
• Overflow + pipe routing: The overflow gutters are part of a frame that contains the supply lines (going up on the left) and the drainage lines (going down the right). Any overflow will go into the frame and down into the reservoir.
  
• Reservoir: 4" PVC pipes with enough capacity to hold 2x the water capacity of the 3" pipes up above. Not visible in the picture is a ball valve to drain the system for refilling. You can kinda see it in the bottom right of this IMAGE. I mounted it to the wall with heavy-duty brackets.
  
• Lights: These and these are mounted on the underside of the wooden covers.
  
• Pump: This
  
  The grow area is physically separate from the reservoir so I can detach and clean it. Some have critiqued the design for not being true NFT, saying that water remains in the system; and also because the channels are not square. So there are surely design improvements that can be made.
  
  The wood is black walnut that I coated in teak oil; and are slid onto brackets I made so that (in case of leakage) I can pull them right off without unscrewing anything.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07QFPBQDR?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title Here's the link, but it looks like Reddit bought them all.

Remove the rocks and anything glued. Get a (small) grow light on Amazon or wherever can find one (I leave mine on for 12 hrs. Keep in the warmest room in the house and lightly spray it with water once a day but watch for fungus.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074GR1KRT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_zppyCbS4P977K

I doubt those lights will do much for your plants. Something like this would be more appropriate: https://www.amazon.com/Phlizon-Thermometer-Humidity-Adjustable-Spectrum/dp/B0752CL6KJ (I'm not endorsing this particular product; it just happened to come up first in my search).

I just started growing my own marijuana. I’d like to get 5 of these at $79.95 each. The total for all 5 of them is $399.75. Is that allowed?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0752CL6KJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_fY21Db8AS1FCP

If you don’t win and I do, what can I get for you?

For a tent that small, I think you'd be better off with an HLG 100 v2 3000k (the same light is available at Amazon). The Viparspectra light is cheaper, but that's about the only thing it has going for it.

I don't have that light, but I use the next size up (an HLG QB288v2 3000k) in my 2x2x5.5' tent, and I've been very happy with it. I had a Viparspcetra 450W, but it stopped working after 10 days so I returned it. The QBs seem significantly better made, have a better light spectrum (and the purple light felt very harsh to my eyes), and only use like 2/3 as much electricity for similar amounts of usable light.

Also, the white light spectrum from the QB lights means that you can use a cheap lux meter to get your light position dialed in. That won't work with the purple light spectrum, you'd need a much more expensive PAR meter.

If you're growing in a tiny space, r/SpaceBuckets also has good info about light, airflow, and so on.

Honestly I thought the same thing, but it was a lot easier than I thought. Without having to wire anything, it was all pretty common handiwork with a drill or a Dremel saw. It's a GardenMate 8 Gal grow bag

Link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073NJYCFJ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1


I used an Apollo Horticulture GL60LED Full Spectrum 180W LED Grow Light

Link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FGFW0XO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Fans:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01C82SYZ0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Positronics Auto Express...a little over an ounce. Nice herbal scent. Bought from Sensible Seeds.

Happy Frog Potting Soil 70% Fafard Perlite 30%...get them BOTH at True Value Hardware store for less than twenty bucks. Order online, pick up at the store.

Did not use any medial light strips. DID use Low Stress Training.

Used "The UFO That EVERYBODY Has."
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FGFW0XO/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00FGFW0XO&linkCode=as2&tag=spacbuck-20&linkId=CCK4BF7UHRYLUSOH

But watch it, keep an eye on it, this is OFTEN on sale.

Used Modified Lucas feed starting one month in...this means a teaspoon of Maxibloom per feeding.

Grew in the basement, and my casa is big enough that I didn't need a carbon filter...kept an ona block outside the door, but I don't know if I even needed that.

This was a nice plant. Well behaved, quiet, low maintenance. Kinda like a Golden Lab without the blonde hairs.

Such a nice plant that I even took it for an occasional walk.

Tin

I used the Mars Hydro 300 watt LED.Available at Amazon.com on some clones I got back in January.Built a small grow box till the were ready to go outside and they're doing great,I live in western Washington but I would think the same technique would work for you.Put them on about a 20 hour light cycle and move them outside in about a month.http://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Mars300-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B00XC3LBI2/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1464310100&sr=1-Tho1&keywords=mars+hydro+300 This is how how you help people,thoreau.Not with stoopid remarks.

MarsHydro Mars 300W LED Grow Light Full Spectrum ETL Certification Lighting for Hydroponic Indoor Greenhouse Garden Plants Growing 132W True Watt Panel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XC3LBI2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_6JZxzb337HSMP

Don't waste money on those. These are well tested.

I think that the Mars 600 everyone was talking about was Mars I 600, whereas that product line seems discontinued officially, so that leaves Mars II options only.

see: Mars 600 amazon

I actually got good results from this light. Some people on other forums shat all over it but it flowered great and its under a 100$ too. In a 2.5X2.5 tent, I've kept my temps at 79-81.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HI3AFYM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_orVdAbNJNCRHE

Using this thing.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FGFW0XO/ref=cm_cr_ryp_prd_ttl_sol_0

No problems with it so far! Just flipped the fan around so it works as an outtake instead of intake and good to go.

Here’s my light set up

https://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GL60LED-Spectrum-Growing/dp/B00FGFW0XO


https://www.amazon.com/lights-LEDMO-Upgraded-Waterproof-300LEDs/dp/B01FFWQEPW

two of these https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Mars600-Spectrum-Certificate-Hydroponic/dp/B00XC3LBIW

I'd suggest going with a different light setup but otherwise the other stuff looks good.

The light you picked will create a lot of heat and use a lot of power. The LED is lower power, lower temperature, and will give you more PAR (Photosynthetically Active Radiation) for the money.

Those 6 LEDs you are using aren't strong enough for what you're using them for :( Adding 6 more weak lights is only throwing good money after bad, sadly. If I were you I would try to sell the ones you have already and get fewer, but more powerful LEDs such as [this one] (https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Mars600-Spectrum-Certificate-Hydroponic/dp/B00XC3LBIW/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1485985374&sr=8-7&keywords=600W+led). That 600w LED is supposed to cover a 2.5x2.5 foot area during veg, less for bloom so the number you need will depend on how many plants you have in there.

If you want to be as cheap as possible, you can get a duct fan - but they suck and are loud and they break.

cheap option:

• 4 inch duct fan
  
• 4 inch carbon filter
  
  good option:
  
  
• 4 inch inline fan
  
• 4 inch carbon filter
  
  options for lights:
  
  
• https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/kits/products/hlg-100?variant=8108197478492
  
• https://www.rapidled.com/vero29-triple-cob-array-kit/
  
  i don't recommend it, but if you want cheaper lights:
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/HydroplanetTM-Fixture-Complete-System-Hydroplanet/dp/B01KMW7RYM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1536940051&sr=8-3&keywords=150+watt+hps
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Generation-Spectrum-Greenhouse-Hydroponics/dp/B01HI3AFYM/ref=sr_1_4?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1536940093&sr=1-4&keywords=roleadro
  
  my 2 cents, get the HLG 100 (or 135 for more yield) with a good 4 inch inline fan and a good 4 inch carbon filter
  
  if you can't afford it now, wait til you can. your first harvest will pay it all off and you'll save money and a whole lot of head ache in the long run.

This is the light I got:

Roleadro Upgrade and Newly Developed LED Grow Light Full Spectrum 2nd Generation Series 300w Plants Light https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HI3AFYM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_TtlOzbXWSYYMW


I also just picked up a cheap $9 timer on amazon. Works like a champ. I keep mine on from 9:30am to 9:30pm

Edit: here is the timer

Century 24 Hour Plug-in Mechanical Timer Grounded https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MVFF59S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_AvlOzbW25N6CN

I have a bunch of plants so I have a small shelf unit in my room now with four panels hanging above all the plants.
I use a 45W blue and red LED panel. I got them off of amazon! https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Panel-Spectrum-Growing-Flowering/dp/B01IVQ96KY

If you're getting serious about keeping plants indoors you might want to invest is some LED lighting. The lights are pretty bright, so you might want to house the plants in a cabinet, a closet, or something with doors/flaps. And for when fungus gnats finally rear their ugly head: 1 part 3% hydrogen peroxide to 4 parts water in dry soil will get rid of them. Enjoy your plants!

I use lunch trays. 12 Pack - Fast Food Tray 10"x14" BLACK from Globe Commercial Products https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01G7OMIGG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_rbQkx7k2iTXJ2

And these lights Roleadro Panel Grow Light Series,45W LED Plant Grow Light with Red Blue Spectrum for Growing&Flowering https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IVQ96KY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_lepWHiSeUl8re

I have two of these lights

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01IVQ96KY?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

They are not powerful at all, they meet none of the standards that people recommend. But I’ll be darn if they don’t work just fine. You have to have the light within inches of the plant. I mostly wanted something to prevent stretching since I’m in Ohio and we have very dark days ahead of us. But to my surprise they brought out some cool colors that I hadn’t achieved even after months of being in the sunniest window. I have them hanging under a desk and the plants are on the floor.

Something like this [Roleadro 2nd Generation 600W LED Plant Grow Light Upgraded Full Spectrum Indoor Growing Light with 120pcs 5W Chips https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IVQ96MW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_ev.PAbNEHR0WD] should be more than enough light to veg and flower in the space you have available. Not the most efficient led light when compared to COB and QB lights, but it’s plenty bright.

another person recomended i went with this

My Setup:

• Lumin Tekco Indoor Grow Tent, 36"x36"x72"
  
  
• Apollo Horticulture 6" 440 CFM Inline Fan with 6" Carbon Filter
  
  
• 2 Roleadro 2nd Generation 600W LED Plant Grow Light's.
  
  
• FFOF soil now and open to different brand for the transplant from 1 gal pot to 5 gal smart pots this weekend.
  
  
• Nutes: Just started 1/4 strength FF Grow Big and FF Big Bloom last watering (I have FF tiger set aside for flower)
  
  
• Supplements: Cal/Mag and Silica. (first time also this week)
  
  
• Temps: 76H/68L
  
  
• Humidity: 38%H/25%L
  
  *pH: Water going is phd to 6.5, runoff fluctuating between 5.8-6.4 recent waterings.
  
  If I missed something let me know.
  
  New Pic!

A full spectrum LED light is going to be your best balance of light quality, low heat, and light that doesn't look crazy weird.

LED Grow Light Bulb, TaoTronics Full Spectrum Grow Lights for Indoor Plants, Grow Lamp, Plant Lights for Hydroponics, Organic Soil ( 36W, All Wavelengths, FREE E26 Socket) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0748D2SMB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_LYQYAb1WEX1PK

With that said, one of these will be enough to nurture a juvenile plant along, but a mature plant will be straining for a little more then just one bulb can offer. This type of bulb should be used within a couple of inches of the foliage in a perfect world.

That purple light is EIGHTY WATTS. 80w. EIGHT ZERO.

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Actually it says 70w even lower on the same page.

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Get this instead https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076QDKVDZ

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65w of QB lighting will beat the fucking SHIT out of that 80w (or 70w) purple light for not too much more money.

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you can also go to alibaba and get even more watts on a QB for not too much more.

I'd suggest skipping the Mars 300w and saving your money to invest in a Quantum Board LED kit, these 100w kits are $150 on Amazon.

The LED tech in those Mars LEDs are outdated, the Mars 300 would be equivalent to about <~140w draw while outputting 150w HID, whereas this QB kit is closer to true 200w HID output at 96w draw. Compare the QB's lumen output of 15,000+ to the Mars' < 5,000.

the left one

the right one

As you can see, the left one is more yellow while the right one is more white. I was torn between the two and didn’t know which one would be better for the plants so I kept them both 😂

Absolutely!

Monios-L T8 LED Grow Light 2FT,... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QFPBQDR?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Yeah, exactly that. Here is the instructions for the stand. You may have to adjust the height of the side pieces depending where you want to the lights to clip. I spray painted mine and put Christmas lights on it because I like for things to be pretty, haha. My CFL lights are 1600 lumens if I remember correctly. I want to switch to LED soon.

Edit: these are the exact lights I have, it provides measurements for the reflector and clip so you can adjust your setup as needed. I'm sure Home Depot has something similar. Lastly, I put a bread tie around the clamp part of mine. The clamps are ridiculously strong, but it gives me piece of mind if one fails or gets bumped off the PVC that I won't burn my house down, haha.

I’ve had good results with these (the gold ones, the green ones aren’t as powerful). The top review goes into a ton of detail about their effectiveness.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0748D2SMB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_It3UBbJZSTSD4

Sure, https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-Spectrum-Hydroponics-Organic-Wavelengths/dp/B0748D2SMB/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1538534159&sr=8-1-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Taotronics+grow+lights&psc=1

Thanks! For a lot of red plants co2, fertilizer, and high light will bring out their color a lot more and have them growing pretty fast. I have the 3 extra fixtures on my tank because I got two of those bulbs as gifts, and decided to get a third because I’ve found they do a lot for growth and color on my red plants. Also since this tank is pretty tall, I wanted to add a bit more light than what my beamswork light can do.

The beamswork lights are pretty good for planted tanks especially if you’re on a budget. I got the 36” full spectrum LED fixture for my 40 breeder for about $50 and it works great. If you want a lot of red plants I’d definitely go with a full spectrum WRGB LED fixture like this one. it’s the exact one I use. The one pictured in this post is a different one tho, it’s only got white and blue lights. You can check my previous post here to see what the full spectrum one would look like.

Here is a link to the pink bulbs as well.

I got a pair of cheap led light panels on Amazon. A blurple, and a white full spectrum. The blurple sucks and draws a lot of power. The full spectrum is just okay. I added two screw in Taotronics lights I had, and it made all the difference. Heat has also been a big issue for both panels. I've retired the blurple out of frustration with its poor quality.

When I started my garden, I could have gotten better lights, but I cheaped out. I regret that decision. You may be able to buy lights for half the price, but you will get what you pay for.

Fixed Taotronics light name. Added link to a similar light.

I added half a miracle grow plant food stick (6-12-6) and an LED light from Amazon (Lighting schedule is six hrs/day plus natural light from the east facing window)

The leaves are greener and the leaves that used to be yellow or now perkier with a bit more color. It’s only been 4 days since adding the light. My other plants have also benefited from the light.

Light:
Lovebay Timing Function Dual Head... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074GR1KRT?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

No I have one, wouldn’t recommend- it’s hard to get them close enough to actually give enough light without burning the plants. This one is better IMO https://www.amazon.com/Lovebay-Adjustable-Gooseneck-Hydroponics-Greenhouse/dp/B074GR1KRT/ref=pd_aw_lpo_86_lp_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=P0434TAXANH3A8A5GXCN

I'm using one of those goose neck red/blue ones. I don't think it'd be strong enough on it's own but since I'm using it as supplement to natural sunlight just for the winter (my plants are in a south facing window) it's been sufficient for my plants.

Edit: this is the exact light I'm using but again, I wouldn't recommend this a sole light source. There were a couple weeks where I had to move my plants away from the window due to the temperature and the light alone was not sufficient on its own.

This is from 6 plants. Initially grown indoors but put outdoor to flower, rainy fall made for quite a bit of bud rot. I’d say about a quarter of the yield was lost. The light I use is the Phlizon 600W LED Plant Grow Light. I think two of them may be overkill for a 4x4 but can’t hurt.

I start them off in DWC, create a nebula manifold and once the root system is sufficiently large I transfer them to a mix of my own compost, along with topsoil and mulch. 7 gal pots.

I have another group (genetic clones of the ones jarred) that is still under grow the lights, going to yield much larger than the outdoor even without considering grow lights.

I hate to be that guy, but you may want to start over... You want extremely bright lights like LED grow light fixtures (the purple ones) and you want them no more than an inch or two from the top of seedling. You want that light right up in your seedlings' business for 16 hours a day. The baby plants should cap out at an inch or so tall before they put out their first true leaves.

This is the light I use to start seedlings. https://www.amazon.com/Osunby-Growing-Indoor-Plants-Hydroponic/dp/B075JFPLY1/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?crid=LUDRCL22X0JF&keywords=led+grow+light&qid=1554355790&s=gateway&sprefix=led+grow+&sr=8-9

I hang it about 2 inches above the highest point of the seedling and raise it slowly as they get taller. Once they get a few leaves you can start moving the light higher so leaves don't burn.

As it is I doubt these are going to make it. They're way too leggy. They need exponentially more light. You might just want to cut your losses and take another shot. Don't give up though!

HLG 65

If you have these hanging in the open they will annoy you with it's blue/purple colors and are not good for your eyes. Try getting full spectrum LED.

Look up Quantum boards from horticulture lighting group or Atreum Boards, Amazon may not have them. They are generally more efficient and give off nice white light which will not annoy you and even brighten up the room!

A Quantum Board 65 Kit (65Watt real draw) is about 100$ and available on Amazon and should be enough for a first light but probably underpowered for 4x4 but for half shaded plants this will work fine. Most use them to grow weed which likes a lot of light. Veg/bloom switches are mostly for weed, yes.

But sure, the QB are a bit bare and not that pretty yet really lightweight aesthetically...so who knows.

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The Maxsisun 300W has about 130W real draw (the 300W is misleading since it's just an euivalent to HPS lights. So it draws 130W which is equivalent to a 300W HPS light) but is probably less efficient than the QB.

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I'm growing Chilis with a DIY Fixture with full white LED comparable to the QB ones. I started out with a Viparspectra 300W (basically same as the Maxisun) so i know em both. Gonna take the Viparspectra apart soon to exchange the LED to full white ones. Will never touch the blue/purple lights again :D

The more you spend, the better the light. The better the light, the better the plant. The better the plant, the more you yield. The more you yield, the more cost effective the operation is.

Cheapest option. Buy two:

https://www.amazon.com/ACKE-Germination-Seedling-Vegetative-Flowering/dp/B07GGX3R9T

Slightly better:

https://www.amazon.com/Lenofocus-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Vegetable-Flowering/dp/B07TV9GWPB

Best option within your price range:

https://www.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-High-Efficiency-Upgraded/dp/B076QDKVDZ

something with a little more power , they got 100watt (20w) versions of these bulbs that are a lot bigger on amazon but a panel is gonna be the best bang for your buck , These ones are cheap and efficient

Do yourself a favor and return that and get 2 of these Horticulture Lighting Group HLG 100 V2 3000K Quantum Boards. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C59J8L2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_7S6qDbN0E9JY1

https://growerslights.com/products/horticulture-lighting-group-260-watt-quantum-board-led-kit

Would be ideal for a 3x3. It would definitely be worth it

You could also get one of these:

Horticulture Lighting Group HLG 100 V2 3000K Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom | Version 2 High-Efficiency Upgraded LM301B LED's https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C59J8L2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_4rBqDbSBZBDJY

Then buy another when you start to flower

4 different ones.
lights


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C59J8L2

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IVQ96WW

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IVQ96MW

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015FLSOCE


fans


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D8ZC566

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I8Q30SC

clip fan


other stuffs


Frog soil

Smart pots - half 3 gallon half 5 gallon

Advanced nutrients nutrients

hygrometer: https://www.amazon.com/SensorPush-Wireless-Thermometer-Hygrometer-Android/dp/B01AEQ9X9I/

6 inch intake fan from home depot

filter: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008NYF8S4

filter fan: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CTM0JF2



strains


1 white widow

1 amnesia haze

2 money bush

2 jack herrer

You can get a small QB for a small space ~150usd

Horticulture Lighting Group HLG 100 V2 Quantum Board LED Grow Lamp Veg & Bloom 3000K https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C59J8L2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_.tcACbR8SPV41

hlg 100 3k

This is the one my mom uses, bendy but gets hot so make sure it's away from hazards!

This is the one I use! I have two currently.

I use these guys and I'd say the lights are a foot or so away.

I leave it on probably 12 hours a day at a middle strength and then 3ish hours a day at the lowest strength. My plants are also on a shelf that gets a decent amount of sunlight but it's pretty filtered through blinds and the other boards on the shelf.

Yes! They recently had a flash sale and I scored this one for $16! Should have gotten 2. Check it out here

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07H57K565?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

I just bought these from Amazon. I only wanted cheap ones because I am moving them outside in just a few weeks.

This is the grow light (it’s alright not the best) and those are my baby rosettes in front, I’m actually not sure what either are honestly

Linked

Not OP, but I just bought this one and I'm pretty happy with it.

Not expensive, they are light weigh, ultra bright and electric bill friendly! Browse this link to learn more about it. Thanks!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QFPBQDR

My plants grow like CRAZY under these.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07QFPBQDR?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

Edit: the ones above are on the pricier side, but really worth it if you can spare the extra $. If not, I also own the ones linked below. My plants do fine under them, but don’t grow nearly as fast.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07QNHTZ9C?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

After starting with a CFL monster in various configurations, it probably wasn't much cheaper than the 400w kit I bought for my veg tent later on.

This is the point where you should decide if you are going to continue this hobby or are you just going to keep "experimenting". So its either you can fork out around

$150 http://www.amazon.com/iPower-GLSETX400DHMCT6-400-Watt-Digital-Dimmable/dp/B005GYRB9S/ref=sr_1_6?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1369689863&sr=1-6&keywords=HID+light

or

$170 http://www.amazon.com/iPower-GLSETX600DHMAC6-600-Watt-Digital-Dimmable/dp/B005GYRZV2/ref=sr_1_8?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1369689863&sr=1-8&keywords=HID+light

I think CFLs are a great way of growing but has its limitations that might not meet with the growers expectations. No one wants to feel like the end product or experience wasn't worth the time and cost in the end.

I'm using the cheap UFO LED that can be had from Amazon (usually for around $100 US).

https://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GL60LED-Spectrum-Growing/dp/B00FGFW0XO

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077YK18TP/ref=twister_B07JVPSVD9?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 thats the one I used in the spacebucket. but if I could do it again. I may have gone with the apollo one https://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GL60LED-Spectrum-Growing/dp/B00FGFW0XO/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=180w+led+grow+light&qid=1556217120&s=gateway&sr=8-3

My new mini tent I got a 300w Marshydro eco now though.

For my spacebucket I use this light Apollo Horticulture GL60LED Full Spectrum 180W LED Grow Light for Plant Growing https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FGFW0XO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_tisQCbW3PBARR

How about this one?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FGFW0XO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1418191620&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SY200_QL40#immersive-view_1418191663041

>Nice little setup and great plant !

Thanks :) Here is the full setup.

>Do you need your fan to be always turned on when the leds are on ? Do they produce a lot of heat

Yeah, I keep the fan running 24/7. This cools the lights when they're on but it also keeps good air circulation around the plant which helps prevent mold.

>? I've always wanted to try it but never really jumped into it . Last time i checked leds pannels were expensive :(

You can build a Spacebucket for a couple hundred dollars. The LED UFO I'm using was only $120 which honestly wasnt that much considering how well it works.

Ninja Edit:
You also don't have to invest a ton into trying to grow. There have been people that just put a bag seed in a solo cup full of soil and watered that shit. If you're nervous about growing, you can try growing tomatoes which respond in very similar ways so learning how to grow them will help you with any future weed grows.

Without seeing pictures of your setup, I'd make a wild guess that they needed a ton more light. As an example, here's a popular light - https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Indoor-Growing/dp/B00XC3LBI2 - and it is advertised as being for a 2' x 2' growing area (though I think you could get more out of it than that, especially if you made some sort of grow tent equivalent. It's easy to underestimate just how much light plants need.

Growing from seeds will be more difficult and create lots of new hurdles to overcome, if you're still getting comfortable with plants I'd just pick up some seedlings.

However, you mention that you'll be a homeowner, so you might just consider growing your herbs outdoors. Not all of those herbs are perennial (basil is an annual, it will set seed which you can harvest but then it's gonna die), but you could also harvest and dry the herbs so you could have them in the off season if you cannot keep your cats away.

Another or additional option is to grow cat grass and catnip to distract the cats and give them something else to be excited about, and also give them vertical shelves away from your plants to play on or even a catio. Lots of times cats get into indoor plants because they are bored and need more stimulation. Plants and soil are full of interesting smells. Hope this helps.

Two of these

MarsHydro Mars300 LED Grow Light Full Spectrum ETL Certification Lighting for Hydroponic Indoor Greenhouse Garden Plants Growing 132W True Watt Panel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XC3LBI2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_yESpzbYAM44BP

Or two of these

VIPARSPECTRA Reflector-Series 300W LED Grow Light Full Spectrum for Indoor Plants Veg and Flower https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B4GQ6MO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_iFSpzbQGSR3SX

If I was really trying to go for the bare-minimum cost setup I'd have it in a closet and here's what I'd do:

• Random large plastic container with drilled holes on the bottom as a pot (3-7 gallons). I would recommend fabric pots from your local Hydro store which cost around $6.
  
• Cheap soil and nutrients (look for Tomato nutrients) that you can buy at Home Depot/Ace Hardware/Your local Hydro store (FoxFarm Ocean Forest is GREAT and you get 12 gallons for $10).
  
• PH test strips, for around $5 online (very cost effective, giving your plants the right PH of water will help them a LOT)
  
  The hardest decision would probably be lighting... I'd advise you either go the CFL route (look it up on growweedeasy.com) or a cheap LED light from Amazon. You can get a 180W draw light from Amazon for $66, and it's decent, not the best, but you can surely go from seedling to harvest with them. MarsHydro is a well-known and relatively reliable brand: https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Spectrum-Certification-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B00XC3LBI2/ref=sr_1_7?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1506140832&sr=1-7&keywords=led+grow+light
  
  The last thing you will really need is ventilation. To start you can just use some small-fan you may have laying around but later the odor will become an issue. You can make your own carbon filter for cheap, or you can buy one. I believe you can get a basic carbon filter/fan combo for around $50 online.
  

Have you verified these are ACTUALLY 54 watt?

There is an epidemic of LED retailers straight up lying about the power on their lights.

Lights will often advertise at 50 watts for instance when it actually pulls 12 watts, or something. When cornered on it, they skirt the issue by saying it's "equivalent" to a 50 watt traditional bulb.

It's bullcrap, its a big problem, its very hard to avoid.

When considering an LED light, i always read through comments until i find someone who threw it on a watt meter to get an actual wattage.

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Like others have said, plants only need a few things. Nutrients, water, light, and CO2.

Seems like the missing link here is the light.

Here's the light i bought, and have had pretty good luck with it:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XC3LBI2/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Nice cheap light

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00XC3LBI2/ref=mp_s_a_1_20?ie=UTF8&qid=1498932753&sr=8-20&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=RoleadRo&dpPl=1&dpID=51mUVXHUvzL&ref=plSrch

Seeds

https://www.seedsman.com/en/cannabis-seeds/flowering-type/autoflowering-feminised-cannabis-seeds?dir=asc&order=price

Grow tent

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NGZ216U/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1498932973&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=grow+tent&dpPl=1&dpID=51K5M7TCfmL&ref=plSrch

Personally I like soil. Easier to diagnose and remedy in my opinion. Can't cheap out on the soil though. Fox farm gives good results and can be found at almost every nursery or online.

Heard decent things about this

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B010NQR5WQ/ref=cm_cr_srp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8

Inline fan

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XJYR2R7/ref=mp_s_a_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1498933348&sr=8-15&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=inline+fan+carbon+filter+combo&dpPl=1&dpID=41zr9rEHVKL&ref=plSrch

If you can squeeze any extra money out I'd put it into the lights.

Also check the side bar and all this stuff can be found in there. I just smoked so I'm feeling especially helpful lol.

Anyway remember it's a weed and will grow you just have to have the patience to let it. Also remember to have fun.

Good places to start.

http://www.growweedeasy.com/basics

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHWaWOfju3y4PIoQtO4B6KWQIY6wng_UD

Hey dude - I'm in the middle of flower on my first grow and think I can help out a bit here.

Not sure if you're already on this site but growweedeasy.com is an incredible free resource

You could easily do one plant in a tent like this or go bigger and do a 48" x 24"

As for LED's in that range, most people seem to like either the mars hydro or viparspectra (I'm currently using an mh/HPS light)

Enjoy!

Panda film draped over the back just for purposes of this picture; other side is reflective white & will be used to cover the whole shelving unit.

Shelves are 30" x 14" by 60" high. Lights are each Mars300's. Air pots are 1' cubes, about 7.5 gallons each.

Did I get the wrong pots? I'm also thinking of maybe using ratcheting straps around the shelf poles to hold the containers in place better, maybe scrunch 3 together by extending the bottom shelf a bit.

Other thing: the panda film. I'm thinking about trying to glue or epoxy magnetic stripping on some to create a removable panel, but I doubt the magnets will hold well.

Any feedback or ideas appreciated!

BESTVA 1000W LED Grow Light Full... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01871AHTC?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

Is the one I bought. Maybe isn't the best or even right for my family but it puts out a lot of light and at least seems to not be killing them 😁

I've got it hooked to a wemo outlets that allows me to set a schedule and I'm running it about 13 hours a day.

Roleadro Upgrade and Newly Developed LED Grow Light Full Spectrum 2nd Generation Series 300w Plants Light https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HI3AFYM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_orVdAbNJNCRHE

Yescom 225 White LEDs Grow Light Panel Hydroponics Ultrathin Lamp for Growing Room Tent Greenhouse https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015YX8ZF4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_ysVdAbNC2PZNY

This is the guide that got me started, it's pretty comprehensive. The only think I would suggest different is getting these net pots instead of the ones they suggest.

If you have a sunny windowsill you can just put it there. If you want to grow year round or in the basement / darker room I would recommend a light like this

I agree, just pick up an inexpensive led like this one and it'll be fine for your purposes.

DETAILS ON SET UP

Light: Roleadro 300W LED light

Fan and filter: ipower 4" inline fan with carbon filter (my roomates are worried about the smell

Tent: Millard 30" x 18" x 36" tent

Odds and ends: A digital timer to schedule lights

A fan speed controller

3-gallon smart pots

A humidity and temp sensor

Plus a small clip on fan.

GROW DETAILS

I have three different strains, Northern Lights, Pre-99 big bud, and pure power plant, and then an unknown seed(which I planted about two weeks ago as the previous unknown seed turned out male, see previous post [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/microgrowery/comments/5qo1yo/early_sign_of_balls_details_in_comments/0. One in each 3-gallon smart pot. For the first two weeks of growing I had an 18/6 light schedule, and then switched to 12/12. (I'm essentially doing 12/12 from as early as the plant could respond to the change in light schedule). Over the past 15 days I watered twice with tiger bloom nutes.

I definitely made the mistake of not listening to your advice when I originally posted and am trying to grow 3 plants in a 1.5X2.5X3 foot tent...It is getting crowded, I should've listened and stuck with one, maybe two plants. Other than that I haven't had any problem that I have noticed other then a few spots of damage on leaves occasionally but no pests or wilting. I'm sure there are things I could've done better though. Thank you for all your help, I can't wait to get to harvest.

What will you be putting in there? If it's mostly high light species you probably don't want to cheap out too much on light, but if you have a mix or mostly intermediate to low light you can probably get away with cheaper and fewer fixtures.

I have a few of these led panels, which are strong enough to tan a cattleya at a close range and could also cover a very wide area at a further distance for lower light plants. My oldest ones have been running daily for a little over a year and no issues so far, so hopefully they'll last a good long time. You could probably use one of these on each side at an angle so that the front of each shelf gets some direct light and arrange your plants closest by ordered of light requirements.

I also have some areas where I supplement light with a setup of cords---socket splitters---and smaller sized grow bulbs that I can swivel to target a wider or narrower area.

One more tip that I haven't tried with orchids but might be worth a shot in a setup like this, you could line the walls with foil or something reflective to help bounce light to the back sides of the shelves and have less spillover "going to waste". I've only ever done this with seedlings for my garden but it seemed to help.

Amazon is having a flash sale on these. But it ends in an hour. I don't know anything about grow lights but they're well reviewed and 20 bucks seems cheap.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01IVQ96KY/ref=gwm_tlc_pi?pf_rd_p=62af779f-88df-4dd0-be50-91c6a4b9661a&pf_rd_s=grid-6&pf_rd_t=Gateway&pf_rd_i=mobile&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=7PZSJ9HA0YW0X1JV4C9G&pf_rd_r=7PZSJ9HA0YW0X1JV4C9G&pf_rd_p=62af779f-88df-4dd0-be50-91c6a4b9661a

Yeah I wasn't sure if one would be enough. I think they're only drawing 250 watts at the wall, so 500 total for the closet. Each panel is 120 5watt epiled LEDs which is how they can market it as "600w" but reality is the drivers are pretty weak. For the price point they seemed good enough at the time.

Silly mistake #1 would be buying that fixture. It's gonna be way hotter than than running a 400 watt HPS with a cool tube, I promise.

I'd be hesitant to even buy from that jenky looking website, plus they are making some outrageous claims. "USEABLE Lumen: 32,000 compare to 1000w HPS unit @ 19,500 USEABLE Lumen!" - Bullshit, even a 400 watt HPS starts out around 56,000 lumens, a 1000 watt is 146,000 lumens.

Take a look at this and get yourself a nice inline fan with the money you'll save.

Oh jesus, I am amazed that plant has as many leaves as it does and has not fallen over being under that light. So I give you props there.

You need to get a much more powerful light than that in order to grow cannabis. I personally prefer MH/HPS lights but they can put off a lot of heat, that is a bonus for me since I grow in my basement but its a negative for others. You can grow 4 plants under 400 or 600 watts https://www.amazon.ca/iPower-Digital-Dimmable-System-Reflector/dp/B005GYRB9S/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1543012060&sr=8-5&keywords=400w%2Bhps&th=1

Good quality LEDs will work as well, but good quality LEDs are expensive. Unless you are going to get serious about growing and willing to go with something like a Quantum Board or high end Cree COBs, I would stick to old fashion MH/HPS system. LED has its place, and I use them for my clones, but cheap ones suck for growing good weed.

Hi, I would appreciate some critical feedback and suggestions regarding the setup I have in mind for a new grow tent, specifically related to ventilation. So far I have concluded that a 3'x1.7'x5' grow tent is the right size for my space (a spare bathroom), and towards that end I have purchased this tent and a 400W cool tube lamp.

For ventilation, what I am envisioning based on my research is a two fan setup: a 6" inline duct fan to cool the lamp (like this one) and a 4" inline duct fan with a carbon scrubber to exhaust the tent (like this one), presumably with speed controllers for each.

Again, this is going in a bathroom where I plan to hijack the existing ceiling exhaust ducting that leads outdoors. Thus I will need to couple the two fans from the lamp and the tent exhaust and plumb it into the ceiling.

Does this seem reasonable and appropriate? I am having a hard time picturing exactly how the carbon filter works - can I put it inline with ducting as I have drawn, or does the business end of the filter go inside the tent?

Cooling and ventilation are all about the efficiency of your systems to vacate unwanted air while creating proper circulation. Couple things to consider before changing your setup:

• Your room is 22ft^3. The fan you were looking at is rated at 430cfm (cubic feet per minute). Little less than 20x the volume of the room. Essentially, you will be creating dramatic negative pressure in your grow space. Might want to look at a smaller fan buying a fan speed controller. Max cfm rating should be somewhere around 4x the volume of your grow space. This will allow air to still be moved properly, while allowing the exhausting system to draw in fresh, cool air.
  
  
• Your plants will acclimate themselves to whatever temperature you have them at. People say that ~24^o C is proper, but in nature temperature fluctuates dramatically, with more extreme temperatures than your plants will ever experience growing indoors.
  
  If you do decide to go the inline fan route, make sure you're using passive intakes for your cool air. You do not want to overpower/under-power your exhaust fan. Good way to burn out motors. Keep your 6" fan for circulation.
  
  
  EDIT: Forgot to mention cool tubes. If you're running a 400W system, look into (eventually) purchasing one of these. I recently purchased this set. Installed, I have noticed a huge decrease in ambient temperature in my tent. Here is my set up for a reference. If you were to do something like this, your light would have to be put in diagonally. Corner to corner, your room should measure ~3.5" across.
  
  EDIT 2: Buy a fan speed controller

Here’s my LED recommendation as for the light strips

Apollo Horticulture GL60LED Full Spectrum 180W LED Grow Light for Plant Growing https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FGFW0XO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Jbw9BbQC8XC32

Yeah I had this light too close for a little too long. Raised it for the last couple of weeks. Now I know for the next grow!

Smell was stronger than I expected, smelled great though. Seemed to have a citrus smell too it while trimming.

Here is the link from Amazon

Tl:Dr 104 bucks

I've been using this in a 5gal bucket and growth has been amazing:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FGFW0XO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

full build with plant photos, keep in mind I'm only just over 4 weeks in:

https://imgur.com/a/cQEwUEI

Well, I figured those who planted directly in bucket just remove the spacers to get to the plant for trimming/LST/etc? I got my 3 gallon pot, was just wondering what's the easiest way to do this as the 3 gallon pot is gonna leave some fingers pinched getting that guy out (was thinking about drilling holes in the side and leaving some rope tied onto it so I can just lift it out by the rope).

I'm using this 180w UFO here (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FGFW0XO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) and figured with that much punch, some light escaping wouldn't be a big deal. If it starts to stunt growth in flowering, I'll tape it up but it's a nice night light for the dining room right now. Unless you think it'll cause problems already?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00NL9UZA2/


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FGFW0XO/


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01MZ3JOM1/

I use 138w for Veg, 180w for Veg and Flower, and 270w for Flower.

I have the Apollo and its awesome.

Thank you for sharing! That is really impressive growth. I hope my plants get that large when I am ready to start them. (Zone 5A currently getting lows at -20F). I have never heard of that type of light, seems to work really well for you and they are on sale so I might have to try one. I wonder if I have one of those but still my other lights if there would be an issue, or if I would just use the mars one.

Also the comments from people on imgur really get on my nerves at times.

10 of those will definetly do. I started with CFLs until i bought a 250W version and it fucking sucked balls. (was listed a grow CFL). the package shows 14W->65W so that bad boy will produce the equivalent of a 65W subjective "brightness" for human eyes. Definition of Lumen. The specification is kind of misunderstood since it tells you something about the brightness a human eye perseives. A plant has other needs.
nonetheless, with 10 of those you will grow weed, but if you pay more than 7$ a piece you should consider getting one of these for starters: 300W LED for beginners. they got a much better spectrum (not the best, but theyre cheap and easy to use)

I am talking about something like this (random link, not an endorsement) that can be used in a DIY setup. Check /u/LEDWizard 's threads to learn more about DIY leds.

Other than that, even just stringing together enough LED spotlights/directional bulbs would do the trick, just not as good as a COB led array (the ones I linked at the beginning).

Or you could go for a couple (or 3) of these ready made panels. Again, this is an example and not an endorsement.

Either way I'm sure it'll be great, because your setup looks pretty sweet as it is and you generally can't go wrong with LEDs. They last a long time and produce the most PAR (photosyntheticaly active radiation) per Watt consumed that any other artificial lighting source.

For a light I love these MarsHydro Mars 300W LED Grow Light Full Spectrum ETL Certification Lighting for Hydroponic Indoor Greenhouse Garden Plants Growing 132W True Watt Panel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XC3LBI2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_UOkEzbEW2ZGQ5

This light?

MarsHydro LED Grow Light 300W 600W 1200W Full Spectrum for Hydroponic Indoor Plants Growing Veg and Flower https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XC3LBI2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_jB3xCbP7WZ2W7

If so that should be doable. Its a 132w light and with blurple its pretty easy to hit 0.5g/watt of light if you dont stunt the plant a lot.

They upgraded them. The old original ones did but the ones that they currently sell use 5w.

Edit: link

The light has several different colored LED's. They focus light straight down and out at a certain angle. This type usually appears a solid blue-purple (blurple) when you look in the grow room as the angled light mixes together. The light that shines straight down through small cracks in the canopy gives this effect showing the red blue and white diodes.
https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Spectrum-Certification-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B00XC3LBI2

yes, LED full spectrum grow lights. something like this dont' give off too much heat and use a fraction of the power. The light is intense. doesn't have to be as close as HPS or Halogen grow light. the light i linked will cover a 4'x4' growing area. get more trees ! (you can also go without a light if it's close to the window and only one tree, it will survive until spring no worries)

They advertise it as 132 watt actual:

https://smile.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Spectrum-Certification-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B00XC3LBI2/

More than enough for a Brute build, along with some side lighting strips for the bottom maybe :D.

MarsHydro Mars300 LED Grow Light Full Spectrum ETL Certification Lighting for Hydroponic Indoor Greenhouse Garden Plants Growing 132W True Watt Panel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XC3LBI2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_QUlfzbVQ6VJBW

there is not a good kit, you should buy stuff separate.

light, growing space/material, seeds/plants will probably come from different vendors.

if you wanted a super simple, easy to use kit could get an autopot and then some easy to use nutrients, a simple 1 piece light(led or HPS), then some seeds or wait for march and get some starter plants from me =D

You need more than 36" vertical space. Your fan + filter will take up 10", pots another 10", and you will need to keep the light 12"+ away from the plants. This tent is close in footprint, but with a much more manageable height. Tons of good tents out there though. Just make sure you have at least 5' if you are flowering. 6 or 7 is better.

Can't speak to that particular Mars light. If you only have $150US/100GBP to spend, I'd look into more options. Mars300 for a first grow is an idea. A better idea, if you have the time/inclination, is to build a light. You can get diode strips (Bridgelux EB, Samsum Series H, etc) + 100w driver for the same price, and it'll put out more useful light with less heat. If that sounds like something you want to do, search a bit on this subreddit, and post questions. Lots of builders here.

As for fans, Active Air is a solid brand. Just don't buy anything that look like this--which is a duct fan, not an inline or this--which is an inline that will work for 3 months then break.

You also need to get 2 sets of cfls 6500k for veg and 3000k for flowering all those bulbs plus all the sockets and an extra power strip to plug them all into plus hardware to mount all of them cost about the same as a cheap led and you'll be better off going for a cheap led in the end. Like a lot of folks I started with cfls and they are a pain in the ass. You have to change the light distance almost everyday.


$79.99 https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00XC3LBI2/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1486418413&sr=8-5&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=300w+led&dpPl=1&dpID=416mauS8EhL&ref=plSrch

Are you including the Mars Reflector 96 or the Mars I "600W" in that? I've got them but they didn't seem to make it into the frame for either of these two pictures. Thanks for the feedback either way!

I'm looking at this and wondering if I should switch out my setup for it. If so I can probably get more for my HPS light and ballast than this even costs.

You're probably going to have to break down and get some lights if growing outside isn't an option. Even a very bright window is still way less sun than actually being outside. Weed loves light, and needs tons of it to thrive. As it happens my current crop is about the same age as yours. I'm growing them in a pretty cheap no fuss setup. They're all around 2-3 feet tall and fairly covered in buds already.

If you're going to spend any money at all on this, get lights first. They will make a far bigger difference than anything else. (As you're seeing, you can't really grow indoors without them.) You can get a decent enough light to grow one or two plants for $100-ish. Something like this. It's not the best light in the world, but it's plenty to grow a couple plants and get a decent yield.

For my 2 cent, the hierarchy of 'stuff to buy' looks like this:

1. LIGHTS. You really can't understate the need for good light. Unless you've already sunk a ton of cash into them, these should always be the first thing you upgrade.
   
2. Soil. Spend the $10-15 for a bag of the nice Fox Farm soil. This stuff is excellent. If you're growing autos in this stuff you don't need any extra fertilizer.
   
3. Tent, fans, filters. You don't want your house to smell like weed. When you get your first plant growing well you're not going to believe how much it smells.
   
4. Fertilizer. Careful with this stuff, a little goes a LONG way. Especially when you're already using 'strong' soil.
   
5. Fancy pots.

https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Upgrade-Developed-Spectrum-Generation/dp/B01HI3AFYM/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1485827010&sr=8-13&keywords=led+light+full+spectrum

I have two of these and they are almost too strong. I have too keep the 3 feet above my seedlings so they don't get burned.


On sale right now... I might have to pick up another.

I bought a small metal shelf from home depot and got the 300W version of this grow light to hang from the underside of the top shelf

I'd suspect your light is the leading cause of slow growth, barring ph issues. From what I can tell of the leaves, it looks pretty healthy! Light leaks don't bother the plant as much during vegetative state, you mostly have to watch for those in flowering. You could always grab an additional light online to bolster your plant.

Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Generation-Spectrum-Greenhouse-Hydroponics/dp/B01HI3AFYM/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1542517552&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=roleadro%2Bled%2Bgrow%2Blight&dpPl=1&dpID=41T44TtuwqL&ref=plSrch&th=1&psc=1

Might be a good addition. Get the second Gen full spectrum yellow colored 600w (it's not a true 600w, but it's better than some of the other blurples and it's light penetration is solid)

Roleadro 600W LED

i wouldnt get the light meter, the ufo wont register too well with a lux meter because of the mono LEDs. if you want a light you can use with the light meter, you could get this:

https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Plant-Light-Spectrum-Generation/dp/B01HI3AFYM/ref=sr_1_5?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1480420041&sr=1-5&keywords=roleadro

what are you using for nutrients? i think you will need a larger power supply for the leds, like 12vdc 5-10amp.

the brand galaxyhydro/roleandro is equal to, maybe a little better than marshydro, they are both chinese led panel amazon/ebay sellers. However, that particular COB is very low end, entry level, not worth +$30 over the regular mars300. its pulling 100w vs 132w and putting out the same blurple light.

A "real" 100w at the wall cob will set you back $200 and or more

stay with the 2 mars or better yet, get 2 of these newer white led panel

honestly https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Plant-Light-Spectrum-Generation/dp/B01HI3AFYM/ref=sr_1_9?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1482438329&sr=1-9&refinements=p_36%3A2661614011 any of the chinese LEDs will do you wonders.

I'm not sure which one is better, but this one will be much better on your eyes, the blue/purple light gets annoying after awhile...

I have an orchid that was gifted to me this spring. It bloomed beautifully through the summer, and when it finished, I trimmed back its spikes (they were being sacrificed anyway) and repotted it (the included pot was very small and couldn't drain). So far, it seems to be doing well: I have two new sets of leaves. However, I'm a cold apartment in Seattle (though it is south facing). How much benefit do you think I'd get from installing this $70 sunlight colored LED grow light?

Edit: it's a young phal.

These were our set up last year and it worked great.

Going to order the same ones and have double the grow set up this year:

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One of these: $79.99

Roleadro LED Grow Light, Galaxyhydro Series 300W Indoor Plant Grow Lights Full Spectrum with UV&IR for Veg and Flower

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PH1MQV8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Two of these: $69.99

Roleadro Upgrade and Newly Developed LED Grow Light Full Spectrum 2nd Generation Series 300w Plants Light

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HI3AFYM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

There is no definitive answer on this because there are too many variables. Examples: The light requirements of each individual plant. The PAR given by the light. How far the plant is from the light. How long the light is on daily. How much natural light the plants receive. Yes grow lights CAN work, but you have to find the perfect balance. The great thing about indoor lights is you can control the environment! Too much light, you can reduce the time or move the plants further away from the light source. Too little light, move them closer or give more hours of light. It's not something you'll probably get 100% right on the first try.

They do make white LED grow light panels, but they are harder to find than the red/blue. You may want to try something like - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HI3AFYM/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_35?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2L94QV6P0R9ON -but it may be overkill, I don't know how many plants you have or how large of an area you need to light.

>if I didn't add ice, the bowl/water container easy goes up to 93F after a 16 hour light cycle...

If your house is 77F, but your water is 93F, something is wrong. The water should be at ambient temperature, which in your case seems to be 93F. Do you have a lot of hot lights right up against the plants with no fan? If so, fix your lights.

>with lighting from something like this but hopefully a bit smaller -

Don't use pure blue LEDs, you want either whites or red/blue. something like these: https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse-Succulents/dp/B01IVQ96KY/ref=sr_1_5

Sorry never checked my notifications, here's that link

https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse-Succulents/dp/B01IVQ96KY/ref=asc_df_B01IVQ96KY/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198107334619&hvpos=1o6&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4560918641975468473&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9028727&hvtargid=pla-318369567006&psc=1

It’s an LED array. It’s a cheap one; you’ll find they can get very expensive. LEDs are nice because they consume little power, produce almost no heat, and last a long time. These plants get some sunlight; I use a timer to run the lights 2-6 hours/day, depending on time of year.

I’m no expert, but I find they work well, especially for seedlings/young plants. Some plants do fine with limited sun, others need lots of light. Flowering plants apparently do better with a wider spectrum light than the one shown here. I’d suggest researching a bit, getting one that fits your needs, and giving it a try.

Hey there! I think you're going to have trouble growing in the window if you're facing north. South is best, and I've grown nice window plants with good east and west exposure, but never north.

I think your best bet is to do a small indoor set-up like mine. This is where I start my peppers before moving them outdoors. I have three of these panels suspended from a shelving unit, and I'm growing below using Khang Starr's 2-cup method. The lights are on a timer for 16 hours of light and 8 hours of dark, but you could get away with a little less if it keeps your roommate happy.

I actually germinate the seeds in a starter with a heating mat to keep it around 85°, but while that will speed up germination, it's not completely necessary. You can also get good results by germinating the seeds in a paper towel, dampened with water, and sealed in a ziploc bag.

Last thing is the fertilizer solution for the bottom cup. I use MasterBlend 4-18-38, mixed with the recommended amounts of ammonium nitrate and Epsom salt. I've had really excellent results so far.

If you get started soon, I don't think you'd outgrow a small setup by mid-May.

I want to start by saying that you would get a lot more grams for not much more money if you saved up a little more and spent ~$80 on a 125 true watt panel like this:
https://smile.amazon.com/Galaxyhydro-Indoor-Lights-Spectrum-Flower/dp/B00PH1MQV8/
but if your budget is fixed and 10g is your only goal, then you could add a 25 true watt panel like this and probably reach that goal:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01IVQ96KY/ref=psdc_14252951_t1_B072HNNSFZ

Where do you live? Sounds like you need to invest in a grow light for it. If it’s that big, tabletop lights won’t be enough. Look at some of the hanging lamps like this.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IVQ96KY

I have two tents the same size as yours. I bought them at different times or else I would have just bought a 4x4

But, I have 2 of these in each tent. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IVQ96MW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_ShdMDb68H8TPV

I started with just one but, I found 2 produced better coverage.

Giantex Indoor Grow Tent Room Reflective Mylar Hydroponic Non Toxic Clone Hut 6 Size (32''X32''X63'') https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PXK7ICK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_UhVuybY2C4CHS

Roleadro 2nd Generation 600W LED Plant Grow Light Upgraded Full Spectrum Indoor Growing Light with 120pcs 5W Chips https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IVQ96MW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_diVuybHJCV7XV

VIVOSUN 4 Inch 203 CFM Duct Inline Fan with Variable Speed Controller https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CTM0H6I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_BiVuybSGHVZTE

Century 24 Hour Heavy Duty Plug-in Mechanical Timer Grounded https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MVFF59S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_nkVuybNGBW6PS

MacDoDo PH-02 Digital PH Meter Tester Best For Water Aquarium Pool Hot Tub Hydroponics Wine - Push Button Calibration Resolution 0.01 / High Accuracy +/- 0.05 - Large LCD Display - 100% Guaranteed https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JOHTMEO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_MkVuybZ08V91M

VIVOSUN Pair of 1/8" Adjustable Grow Light Reflector Clip Hanger Rope Ratchet with Zinc Alloy Internal Gears 75lb Each https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00P7TZNPQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_nlVuyb1Q8670K

This is my setup, my fan is coming in today and my seedlings sprouted this morning. I did quite a bit of research and The light is a little underpowered but I was on a pretty tight budget and can always add more light later.
I spent $40 on seeds and super soil mix from Mephisto genetics, going a more organic route and won't require nutes.
I also spent about $30 on peat moss, perlite, and compost. I already had some ducting and pots.

I don't know about strips, but this is probably the 'cheapest' light that will be effective, it draws 250 watts. The spectrum is a little more red tilted, but with the window light as well that should be fine. My basil plants exploded under that light, although it wasn't bright enough for peppermint. (I'd recommend the 150w version but it's out of production(?)) https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Generation-Upgraded-Spectrum-Growing/dp/B01IVQ96MW/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1480962538&sr=8-2-fkmr0&keywords=roleadro+full+spectrum+300w

It’s a Roleadro 2nd Generation 600W LED

https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Generation-Upgraded-Spectrum-Growing/dp/B01IVQ96MW

I use these

multijoint desk clamp

clamp with aluminum reflector

LED 150watt equivalent 5000k daylight bulb

They’re game changers. Good luck

I use a Phillips Grow bulb and a clamp lamp, but that’s because I’m growing my mushrooms in the same room I’m growing my weed, and that room is locked down like Fort Knox against light.

But indirect sunlight should be just fine, my friends growing mushrooms in her craft room/office, and her tub’s only getting indirect sunlight and they’re doing fine. Bod even tells you that sunlight isn’t necessary, mushrooms just look weird apparently without any.

Bulbs and lamp. This is my set up and it's a game changer! You can use any old desk lamp lying around

Always happy to share knowledge. :) All my lights are diy pendant lights so I don't have personal suggestions for clamp hood setups but here are a few suggestions:

Clamp light fixture - No personal experience with this one but it's a broader clamp hood to accomodate larger LED lights but they may poke out of the bottom of the hood. Ymmv


LED Light suggestions:

• Sansi - This is the light I use and I really like it. I have no useable windows in my apartment so all my plants are under 4 of these lights and they're all pushing out new leaves all the time. The monstera uses 2 bulbs as its become quite large. Sansi also makes this bulb in a couple lower watts if this one is too intense but you'll have to move your plants closer to the bulbs.
  
  
• GE - No personal experience with this one but the specs are really similar to the Sansi above. Btw/fyi, PPF/PPFD is a more accurate measurement of how much light is available for photosynthesis.
  
  
• iledlight - Again no personal experience but this looks like a super bright light, brighter than the Sansi or GE. I might consider buying this one to try on my monstera... 🤔
  
  Hope this helps and good luck! 🌱☘🍀

I like 100watt daylight CFL bulbs that have a 5-6.5k spectrum (a 4 pack is like $12) And for clip-on housings I really like this style

light fixtures

This is the light I got, since I saw quite a few Redditors using it and it was pretty cheap compared to other lights I’ve seen 😅. I’m just worried because the other leaves are pretty far and low, but as the leaves get closer to the center they start to go up.

https://www.amazon.com/Shengsite-Hydroponics-Germination-Vegetative-Flowering/dp/B072HNNSFZ/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1538454662&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=led+grow+light+50w&dpPl=1&dpID=51NUmHO0pqL&ref=plSrch

I have a question about lights maybe you can help me with. I’m going to be starting seeds in January under lights and will a light like this work
https://www.amazon.com/Shengsite-Hydroponics-Germination-Vegetative-Flowering/dp/B072HNNSFZ

Sorry to hijack the topic but I stumbled onto it right after I was looking at lights

Another question - this one about grow lights. It gets pretty cloudy here, sometimes for weeks at a time, and I figure I would rather prep and make sure my new plants are getting enough light now so when winter comes it won't be an issue (Illinois does not get much sunlight then). My windowsills are small, though, so I'd like to set up a rack in the corner of the kitchen with lights and expand a bit. It won't be a huge area though.

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I found these two grow lights and I'm not sure if one would be significantly better? The flexible one would be nice and more space efficient for me but would getting the bulb and a cheap desk lamp be better for the plants?

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https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-TT-CL013-Grow-Light-Black/dp/B07JVGLGTD/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0748D2SMB/ref=emc_b_5_i

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Thank you!

This one works well for me, but it is expensive compared to the version on US amazon.

Take them home and place a growing light on them during winter. If you have your own office or are the last one to leave, set a growing light on them for the night.

This is the one I use. It has 5 brightness settings and 3 timer modes.

Good luck.

Lovebay Timing Function Dual Head Grow Light 36LED 5 Dimmable Levels Grow Lamp Bulbs with Adjustable 360 Degree Gooseneck for Indoor Plants Hydroponics Greenhouse Gardening [2019 Upgraded] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074GR1KRT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_v0A7CbKWM812E

Thanks. I've been using this light that I got to give my fly traps some extra light at night. Too weak? I literally have no idea what I'm doing, my friend had an extra seed so I just planted it to see what happens. This morning I made a tunnel from tinfoil around it to direct some airflow and reflect more light, maybe they will help.

The big traps are pre-dormancy, but all those little ones are post-dormancy. (You can't see well in the pics, but from the other side there are TONS of tiny ones.) I got it last November, so it isn't fresh out of a nursery. From November to February, it lived on a windowsill in an uninsulated basement. Now, I spend all day moving it around the apartment to wherever the sun is. I also have this little baby grow light that I bought without knowing anything, and I'm aware that I definitely need to get better lighting. (Figuring that out is its own challenge!)

Currently, I live in an apartment in a big house and don't have the option to put it outside, but will once I move to a new place June 1. There, I'm hoping it can live outside in the backyard at least until autumn. It wasn't very smart of me to buy a carnivorous plant in Zone 6a, so now I'm just trying to do the best I can to take care of it!

It's a phlizon 600 watt LED light. https://www.amazon.ca/Phlizon-Thermometer-Humidity-Adjustable-Spectrum/dp/B0752CL6KJ

Edit: it pulls 108watts from the wall aparently.

First timer here. I have 3 female autoflower Northern Lights seedlings at the moment. I am using a 600W amazon LED and 2 45W LED panels in a 4x2 tent. I wasn’t aware the actual wattage of the 600W Amazon light is closer to 150W when I bought it. What’s my best bet for having enough light for all 3 plants in a 4x2 tent? I’m trying to keep costs relatively low. Should I buy some CFLs and spread them around? How many?


My 600w
https://www.amazon.com/Phlizon-Thermometer-Humidity-Adjustable-Spectrum/dp/B0752CL6KJ

Excellent! I'm torn between the bulbs I did, the one you have, and this one,
(https://www.amazon.com/Phlizon-Thermometer-Humidity-Adjustable-Spectrum/dp/B0752CL6KJ/). Do the bulbs for yours have a good shelf life? How costly are replacements vs the LEDs?

yes there is tons of options for lights... i can help you a bit.

where are you from ? whats your main language? if its french i can help explain stuff in french too to make it easier.

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option 1: if you want just to get by until next month... maybe T5 would be best option

my guess this would enough... t5 4ftgreat for veg not so great for flowering

option 2: is a 400w hps you can a vented hood if you plan on using in a tent eventually. Better suited for a full grow than T5 if you want to go at it inside. This kit even comes with a MH bulb thats perfect for Veg.

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option 3: quantum board (from china or usa/canada $$$). Most expensive option but very efficient and effective. i guess a 240w would be enough.

210$ us shipped + duties from china (alibaba - meijiu) or check out HLG in usa or canada who sell probably slightly better product (pretty much same components) for twice the price. But you get faster shipping and easier communication.

QB 240w or from hlg canada - hlg usa)

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First two you can get easily with amazon or your local hydro store... QB board from china is probably 1 or 2 weeks...

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maybe a fourth option is a blurple led light... i wouldn't suggest that but its an option that will probably do the job ok and its the cheapest i guess for the 600w

not sure but i think you would need a 900... old technology. not the wattage advertised.

blurple

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if you have more question feel free to ask

Cool, I’ll probably switch both of mine on then. I’m using 3 of these in a 2x4x5 tent

Hi there!

So I would really like to get into the art of Bonsai. I've been looking at getting a Ficus. The only problem is that it would have to permanently (at least for the foreseeable future) live indoors, as I live in a townhouse complex, without access to a balcony/private yard/fenced in area. I completely understand bonsai don't do well indoors, but with the proper lighting is it doable? I have been looking at lighting from local hydroponic shops and am having trouble picking a light. Would a basic 100 Watt-Equivalent CFL work? Or should I get something a bit fancier like one of these?

250 Watt, 6500K CFL with Reflector

2 Foot, 2 Tube, T5 Fluorescent

60 x 10 Watt LED Grow Light (600 Watt Equivalent)

60 x 10 Watt LED Grow Light (900 Watt Equivalent)

[CFL 13 Watt = 65 Watt Equivalent, 6500K] (https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.cfl-13w--60w-mini-twister-daylight-6500k---case-of-12-bulbs.1000681198.html)

CFL 23 Watt = 100 Watt 2700K

CFL 23 Watt = 100 Watt 6500K

If I were to get Fluorescents I would need a stand of some sort. Would something like this work? Should I change the bulbs to something more powerful?

24 Watt, 6400K, 2 Feet T5

Any of the lights purchased would be kept on an automatic timer indoors. Should the length of the timer be affected by the power of the bulb? Less powerful = More time per day?

These are not autos and I have 3-600w LED's. I have 2- VIVOSUN 600W LED Grow Light and 1- Phlizon Newest 600W LED Plant Grow Light -- seeds from https://www.cropkingseeds.com/

As an example for a smallish grow:

2 x 2 x 4 Tent: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B074H5DKPY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00

Lights: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0752CL6KJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00

Exhaust fan: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01C82SYZ0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00

Ducting: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00EPE3XHY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00

Timer: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00MVFF59S/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00

Total cost: ~270 CAD

Osunby LED Grow Light 45W UV IR Growing Lamp for Indoor Plants Hydroponic Plant Grow Light https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075JFPLY1/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_hctDCbB86MHDP

I'm wondering if my Tulsi Basil plant is too close to the light. Some of the leaves are getting dried and crumpled and brown looking. I'm not sure why, but thinking it's the ought. It is a this 45w LED grow light and the top of the plant is about 10 or 12 inches away from the light. Can anyone identify if the leaves are getting light burned?

Generally even with southern sun the plants will need to be cut back (I live in Minnesota, USA). There are affordable lights these days. I just bought this one: Osunby LED Grow Light 45W UV IR Growing Lamp for Indoor Plants Hydroponic Plant Grow Light https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075JFPLY1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_ecyZWPQDahT6C. Only 45W. I’m using it for seedlings and it’s been working well.

Do you want to buy or is DIY an option?
DIY with Strips is fairly easy. But I don't know about canadian prices and availability of components.
An easy yet efficient solution would be 2 vegging QB.

I’m
Gonna keep it and supplement with 2 of these as well HLG 65 V2 4000K Horticulture Lighting Group Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom 4000K | Version 2 High-Efficiency Upgraded LM301B LED's https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076QDKVDZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_lrRyDbA5DK6M1

I am just getting into the hobby so I don't have any real results, but I posted the same question here a few weeks ago and was recommended this: https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Board-Grow-Bloom-4000K/dp/B076QDKVDZ?ref_=bl_dp_s_web_18674157011

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I ordered it and like it so far. Very bright, lightweight (I am holding it in place with only a few zip ties), and doesn't get too hot. They also make a bigger one if you're going to have a lot of plants: https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Board-Grow-Bloom-3000K/dp/B07C59J8L2?ref_=bl_dp_s_web_18674157011

https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Board-Grow-Bloom-4000K/dp/B076QDKVDZ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=HLG+65+V2&qid=1558999932&s=gateway&sr=8-1

Edit: don't worry about the gallium aluminum arcenide, it is encapsulated in acrylic plastic & not going anywhere. Just like a phone or a computer 😆

These are exactly the kind of answers I'm looking for! Anything to cut down on noise and heat is great, as for quantum boards, will something like this work or would I need to invest a bit more? And would leaving the flap on the tent open allow light to leak?

two of these combos or however you want to do it.
https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Board-Grow-Bloom-4000K/dp/B076QDKVDZ

https://www.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-USA-Quantum/dp/B07C57J7XX/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?keywords=horticul+lighting+group&qid=1559225906&s=gateway&sr=8-1-fkmr1

Also, you could look into DIY LED lights to save some cost. Ledgardener.com has good info.

They don’t need them - they don’t get hot only “warm” and they are full spectrum which means you have a grow and bloom light. Very efficient at creating light and spread and cost effective :-)

Some reviews here:

https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Board-Grow-Bloom-4000K/dp/B076QDKVDZ

https://youtu.be/dM0ow-t6n64

Get something in either 3000K or 3500K range (spectrum output).

Let me know if you want to know more!

So, I think I am going to order off Amazon... any advice on the HLG 100 vs the HLG 135?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C59J8L2#customerReviews

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https://www.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-USA-Quantum/dp/B07D9SP862/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1548979975&sr=1-1&keywords=hlg+135

def at least 4 for a tent that large. honestly you'd be better getting a few more powerful versions. 4 of the [100 watt version] (https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Board-Grow-Bloom-3000K/dp/B07C59J8L2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1542073882&sr=8-1&keywords=hlg+100) would beast out a 4x4 tent through flower. This 285 watt version could handle a 4x4 at veg but you may want to add some supplemental light at flower. And this 480 watt monster would be ideal, but it's getting pricey at that point.

if you are wiling to do a little wiring and buy you're own driver, you could buy just the boards for cheaper from the company on their website: https://horticulturelightinggroup.com. Then you could wire all the boards to a single driver and have a good set up for less cost.

a [HLG-100 V2 3000k]($150) would work well for two 5 gal fabric bag plants and should yield around 2-4oz a harvest once you get everything dialed in. It doesn't need any additional parts other than a pair of adjustable hangers($5-10) and a 24 hr timer(for setting 12/12 in flower). Something like this is great for ease of use, low heat, and efficiency. I'd suggest a combo of topping and low stress training(LST) to bush out your plants and increase yield, usually i'll shoot for 8/16 main cola heads however the veg time can be quite long with this method. Fabric pots are cheap and effective, and add some super soil(kinda pricey, but worth it) like fox farm ocean forest/ happy frog and you'll almost have enough packed in nutes to last you until flower. Supplement with budget cal/mag and some cheap flower fert like scott's super bloom and your good to go. Also never try to save time in the drying/curing step, by far the most important part imo and one of the most challenging to get right from my experience. Also you can def veg 4 plants under this but if you want a good yielding flower, 2 would be the sweet spot and you can always add another unit down the road.

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This company makes DIY kits as well for cheaper, however if pure cost to yield is your interest HPS/CMH are still two great options with a few more needed components(duct fans, tubing, light hood). Also check out cobs if your a DIY person. Not as much spread as the quantum boards but pretty damn efficient too.

This light would be much better:

Horticulture Lighting Group HLG 100 V2 3000K Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom | Version 2 High-Efficiency Upgraded LM301B LED's https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C59J8L2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_I6mMDbTTQRCNM

If you can possibly grow inside instead of the garage, I would. High humidity is bad once you're fully into flowering and can cause mold.

oh and heres the lights I would recommend for smaller setup like what we have:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C59J8L2/

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01B4GQ6MO/

https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/8254/FC85-S50OD.html

and finally, if you're poor as shit like a lot of us are then buy the quantum board first. you can still produce very nice flowers with just that.

Here’s the link:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GGX3R9T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_UvcJJIwRc5cwY

It comes with a hook so that you can hang it over your plants, but I liked the flat look against my shelves. I just used heavy duty command strips as it’s very lightweight, but we’ll see how they hold up!

Thanks! I got it on Amazon

ACKE LED Grow Light

I’m using this one. It was super easy to set up, but the thing is on the flimsy side and as you can see in the pictures, it’s really the bare minimum. No casing or anything. But it doesn’t get too hot and because it’s so minimal, it fits flat on the underside of the shelf so you don’t see it unless you’re sitting on the ground. Like I said in another comment, all this gear is super new so I can’t give any solid recommendation other than that I’ve had a good experience so far!

Right? I really dislike the idea of a purple light in my kitchen. ACKE LED Grow Light for Indoor... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GGX3R9T?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Sorry, I don’t know much about the strips and shelves - though I do use some on my reef tank macroalgae reactor (clear tube with led strips wrapped around) seems to work well and puts up with occasional salt water with out electrocuting me or fish. I don’t know how to fix them onto shelves tho.

I use these one on my plant shelves and added one of these just so it wasn’t bright red. You can see my shelves in my last post. They’re super low profile. But my shelves are wire mesh which allowed me to easily tie them to the underside.

I have purchased 3 of these and although I have no long term results they are working quite well for the price. My lettuce likes it. There is a slight pink hue but not as much as other led grow lights imo.

Hopefully Amazon links are ok:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GGX3R9T

Top tier has 2x Relassy 45W LED Grow Lights Goosenecks.

Bottom tier has 2x ACKE 20W Warm White LED Grow Light Panels.

Also if you are really having a hard time finding full enough sun you could try to order some lights for the plant, these I've heard are decent. https://www.amazon.com/Upgraded-Dimmable-Spectrum-Adjustable-Gooseneck/dp/B07H57K565/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=led+plant+light&qid=1566226877&s=gateway&sr=8-4 There are other sufficient ones on amazon but I think these are the least expensive (still $19), and have a timing function.

Thank you! Do you happen to know anything about grow lights? It’s always rainy in PA so I think that’s also contributing. Do you think this 60W Full Spectrum option is sufficient?

So the one you see on the top is this one:


Winjoy Grow Light, 30W LED Grow... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JLJFWNY?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share


But my plants don’t love it, they kind of put up with it. They seem to do better with this light but they only come with two heads and the cart needs three for good coverage.


Grow Light, Ankace [2018 Upgraded... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H57K565?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share


The succs stress better with this second light than they do with the first one too! The third row I have this lamp for my light hogs.


50W LED Grow Light,Growstar... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07LF21378?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share


I only keep one side on at a time because I’m afraid to melt my plants but I just got this one and am a novice user!

Hope this helps you decide on one! I know how tedious it is to pick some lamps out, especially online.

There grow lights I purchased on Amazon. I have a timer set up to give them more light during the winter months.

Grow Light, Ankace [2019 Upgraded Version] 40W Dual Head Timing 36 LED 5 Dimmable Levels Plant Grow Lights for Indoor Plants with Red/Blue Spectrum, Adjustable Gooseneck, 3/6/12H Timer, 3 Switch Modes https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H57K565/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Jk0TCbJPGJRMY

Sorry. worst internet stranger ever. finally remembered to get you the link.

I bought this one a couple weeks ago, it works great so far. My only complaint is it doesn't have a timer or anything built in. I just bought this also (I have a lot of plants to cover lol), I think the light spectrum might be different, and it also has a timer built in so you can set it to stay on for 6 or 12 hours or something. They both are able to just clamp on to the edge of your bookshelf.

You could also get a power strip with a timer built in, that way you can plug the light(s) into it and they'll come on each day automatically, and you don't have to worry about buying a specific light with one included.

Pardon my butt-in, I just got 2 of these for a tiny Serissa bonsai, will that not do anything? Is there a non-hanging better alternative? Thanks so much.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07LG39B3M/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Are these bulbs better? https://www.amazon.com/SANSI-Daylight-Spectrum-Sunlight-Greenhouse/dp/B07P61K86G/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?keywords=sansi+grow+light&qid=1561981919&s=gateway&smid=A3HAQJT15PL4NZ&sprefix=sansi&sr=8-4

I recently picked up a few of these and absolutely love them: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07LG39B3M

Not hawking them, but not having to live with a purple glow all the time has been awesome, and my plants love it at least as much as the red/blues. I know a lot of people use them, but this little greenhouse / LED combo has been amazing as well: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FZTKYXV

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07LG39B3M/ref=psdcmw_14252941_t1_B07T1YG8BX
Here's one that's identical to the one I purchased but from a different vendor.

Monios-L T8 LED Grow Light 2FT, 144W(6×24W) High Output Plant Grow Light Strip, Full Spectrum Sunlight Replacement with High PAR for Indoor Plant, 6-Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QFPBQDR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_wK9PDb6NE7QQG

It’s these! I absolutely love them. I’ve only been using them for about a week and I’ve had new growth in my Hindu rope, crotons, Zebra plant and my peace lily is blooming. I swear it’s because of these lights. I have them on during the day in a room that has a north facing window, my monstera soaks up that sun but my others get these lights :)

I use the Monios T-8 grow lights. They're led strips and i use about 6 of them for all of my plants(75+) . I think 2 strips would be enough, maybe 3 depending on how dark your new place is. These are the ones i use but i think theyre currently sold out: https://www.amazon.com/Monios-L-Output-Spectrum-Sunlight-Replacement/dp/B07QFPBQDR . However I'll reccomend these ones too as I did use these prior and they worked amazingly, I only really upgraded because my husband wasnt into the purple as much: https://www.amazon.com/Plant-Growing-Lamp-7pcs-Gardening/dp/B07HW2PLY5/ref=zg_bs_14252961_4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=ZB7D5JRNYTSTWWTEC3CT

I'm trying to see what the actually pull on this thing is.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01IVQ96MW/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8

It says 124 but I think that's talking about their 300w because my Vipar 300 draws actual like 130 or something according to the manual.

So if the 600 draws 240-260, that's not bad for the price. $137. And the roleadro has the white/yellow light so it would compliment one of the disco ball lights well.

I just can't find for sure what the actual on it is.

You can grow OG, just don't expect massive yields.

CFLs are for the spacebuckets. I wouldn't use them for tents as they're just not powerful enough. For a 2x2, you'll want a 600W light minimum regardless of how many plants in the tent. This is the light I use in my 2x2: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IVQ96MW

If you use CFLs, you'll want two colors, 6500K and 2700K. I use 4x 6500K and 2x 2700K for veg, and then 6x 2700K for flower if using a spacebucket.

Save some money, try these

How quickly do you need to set up / tear down?

A couple of these:
CHAUVET DJ CH06 Lightweight Lighting Stand w/T-Bar (50lb Capacity) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0096JYRY6/

...would give you a mounting location above eye level. Now you can decide your light budget. At the cheapest would be 4-6 basic hardware clamp lights (like these, but get them at a local hardware store for about $6):
Simple Deluxe 2-Pack Clamp Lamp Light with 8.5 Inch Aluminum Reflector up to 150 Watt E26/E27 Socket (no Bulb Included) 6 Feet 18/2 SPT-2 Cord UL Listed https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XD1PK37/

Point them up at the ceiling for good ambient light, or aim one or two at the performance area. Higher in budget, a couple of inexpensive LED par lights may be enough to light the practice space. You probably won't need sandbags for that small amount of weight.

Brighter, but a bit more expensive: you could even suspend /attach shop lights to the light tree cross bars. I recommend LED in case they fall.

Sunco Lighting 2 Pack LED Utility Shop Light, 4 FT, Linkable Integrated Fixture, 40W=260W, 5000K Daylight, 4100 LM, Frosted Lens, Surface/Suspension Mount, Pull Chain, Garage - ETL, Energy Star https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0725D24X2/

The trees will make setup and teardown easier, you can run power right up them, and if you move spaces they're useful in the future. Those string lights are not very bright and you'll begin losing bulbs as soon as they get jostled while hot (if incandescent). Plus taking tape on and off each time may be a big pain.

https://www.amazon.ca/Simple-Deluxe-Brooder-Aluminum-Reflector/dp/B06XD1PK37/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=31E775FZ2CXZI&keywords=clamp+light&qid=1556669544&s=gateway&sprefix=clamp&sr=8-3

https://www.amazon.ca/Satco-Products-S3929-Incandescent-Shatterproof/dp/B000V52X7C/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?keywords=100+watt+incandescent+light+bulbs&qid=1556669767&s=gateway&sr=8-5

I like [clamp lamps] (https://www.amazon.com/Simple-Deluxe-Aluminum-Reflector-Included/dp/B06XD1PK37?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-d-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B06XD1PK37) myself. And I attach them to [pole lamps] (https://www.amazon.com/Boston-Harbor-TL-TREE-134-BK-3L-Light-Black/dp/B003A9E734/ref=sr_1_5?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1537695631&sr=1-5&keywords=pole+lamps) such as these.

You can also get these sort of things cheaper at big box stores sometimes.

I recently bought an LED light bulb at a dollar store (for a dollar) and was surprised at how bright white it is.

It's actually just a clamp light like you get from home Depot or Lowe's or any big box hardware store. They're all the same really roughly cost around 6-10 bucks. I got 2 of these off Amazon for about 16 bucks, and bought a 6 pack of 6500k LED lights as well for I believe 23?

Simple Deluxe 2-Pack Clamp Lamp Light with 8.5 Inch Aluminum Reflector up to 60 Watt E26 (no Bulb Included) 6 Feet Cord UL Listed https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XD1PK37/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_UxkaBbF461FSZ

(They're on sale for 14 and some change lol)

Leson 100 Watt Equivalent A19 LED Light Bulb Standard E26/E27 Base 13W Energy Saving, Daylight Cool White 6500k (6 Pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FYGDX3A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_xykaBbVR6BNS1

i use an ordinary clamp lamp with a high watt halogen spotlight in it. Wonderfully cheap and portable. The “daylight” or “true color” lamps are way too blue for me.

As of right now, I am good on space. I have some room on my window sill on the other side behind my bed that I can fit some IF I get any more. I have 42 total plants so I really don't NEED any more... I am trying to stay pretty cheap to be honest. Less than $50 but I don't want something so cheaply made that it won't last me a month. I have been looking at something like this bulb in this lamp to clip onto my bed to get pointed at each window or even onto a cat tree, which I moved out of the way for the sake of the photo but I usually keep to the left of my nightstand. I don't know about the LED lightbulb but I also know that succs prefer blue light but I read that fluorescent light is ideal for a cheap, quality lighting setup. While I know that LEDs aren't cheaper than fluorescent, do they work as well? I honestly know little to nothing about plant lighting, sorry for the essay!

Edit: Looked at the Overwinter Megathread and someone posted that their Succs loved this bulb so I might just get 2 these if they are tried and true. I also might just end up getting a real, hard setup with shelves, lighting, the mix. It might be my best option at this time.

PS. I also can't recommend getting a cheap grow light enough. They have 100% changed my indoor garden game both at home and at work. This is one I just picked up for home

I bought this light on sale for $25 based on the recommendation of several others on this sub

Thanks! I did darken the pic so you could see it more so the light is brighter. Just ordered it off amazon because I was using a fish tank grow light haha.

link to light

Then there's also this style that seems a bit less heavy duty: https://www.amazon.com/Shengsite-Hydroponics-Germination-Vegetative-Flowering/dp/B072HNNSFZ/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1537233151&sr=8-4&keywords=indoor+plant+light

Thanks again for taking the time, I'd really love a "Yes, get X or Y light and you'll be all set" if that's even possible to gauge hahah

Medium -
I'm growing in 'used' miracle grow. (It had a monstera growing in it but it died a while back from unknown causes)

Lights -
Whatever I could scrounge together. One is just a 1300 lumen CFL I found lying around, one is 250 watt equivalent LED (25 actual watts) flood from fry's. And two of these

Nutes -
Dyna Grow Foliage Pro during Veg, now using Dyna Grow bloom.

I just started pHing the water. Haven't noticed much of a difference yet but I did find out that my tap water is extremely alkaline (like pH 8+) I water roughly once every 4 days with about 1.5 liters per plant.

I got it under this grow light (https://amzn.to/2Yrn1TJ) for over 8 hours

I was using filtered tap water but will switch to distilled

The Light is Slightly larger than the top of the bucket. It overlaps a little bit. There is no fan in the light.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072HNNSFZ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

-Edit for Amazon link

We have a greenhouse window on a West facing side of our house.

The lamps are these from Amazon - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072HNNSFZ/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The natural sunlight combined with the LED lamps appear to provide enough volume of light for most plants. Those that like more light (sunflowers, okra) I keep closer to the LEDs.

They are 50W each, they blow out the camera because it's metering is weighed heavier in spectrum that they don't produce (green). Trying to run the whole rig under 250W.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072HNNSFZ/

I'm relatively new to succulents and I'm looking for any feedback on my overwintering setup. I have limited space, so this is what I came up with..

http://imgur.com/gallery/QjJMM1C

Edit: this is the light I have
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0748D2SMB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Aj-XBbAJNCS9T

I've seen both of these recommended here:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0748D2SMB/?coliid=IV20LOG462GWX&colid=3Q2ZGS49DRJ7A&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B4GQ6MO/?coliid=I7599APCLG2TG&colid=3Q2ZGS49DRJ7A&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

These are probably overkill for a 5 gal, these are what I use on my 30 gal. You'll need a lamp or a waterproof socket. They make a vert bright purple light, which is optimal for plant growth. You get less algae than from a white light.

https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-Spectrum-Hydroponics-Organic-Wavelengths/dp/B0748D2SMB/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1539504329&sr=8-6&keywords=e26+led+grow+light

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If you want white light, google "high cri led par"

cri - color rating index. Basically, how well does a LED replicate the color of an incandescent bulb. I look for over 90cri

par - describes the lamp shape. Directs all the light forward in a wide cone, great for overhead lighting on a tank because a single lamp's light will spread out to cover the whole tank, and the bright lens of the bulb is pointed away from your eyes. For choosing your wattage, you'd probably want something in the 10-15W range.

Also, choose one that is 3000K. This replicates the warm amber color of an incandescent bulb. The higher the K, the more blue the light. Plants need mostly red light, and a bit of blue. It's also easier on the eyes, and I know how much time we all spend staring into our tanks.

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this is what I’ve been using!

I started using 6 of these, but you might be able to start with 4 and supplement with some CFL.

https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-Spectrum-Hydroponics-Organic-Wavelengths/dp/B0748D2SMB

LED Grow Light Bulb, TaoTronics Full Spectrum Grow Lights for Indoor Plants, Grow Lamp, Plant Lights for Hydroponics, Organic Soil (36W, All Wavelengths, FREE E26 Socket) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0748D2SMB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_wUuPCbYF3BR55

I use these. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0748D2SMB?aaxitk=1Jl64k8F2dJkCEbIEo-62Q&th=1&psc=1

Plants are growing great with them, no complaints. (Actually, my only complaint is that they take a few minutes to turn on again after switching them off for some reason.)

Thank you so much! Here is the link to the one that I purchased. I have it about 2 feet above my succs and I keep it on 24/7. Grow Light

I have one of these. You can put it in any standard E26 socket (that's the usual light bulb socket). The bulb looks kinda neat and the light color is slightly pink instead of shocking magenta so it's not obnoxious. Also, it provides enough light to actually grow some things. I currently have tomato starts under it and they're doing fine.

I have 4 led grow lights https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0748D2SMB/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I think i turned some off when i took this picture.

Is an indoor plant safe outside? I currently keep it under a grow light (link below) for 12 hours a day next to window. It is also watered daily with a liquid fertilizer diluted with water.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074GR1KRT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_qApjDb55P7JZX

Lovebay Timing Function Dual Head... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074GR1KRT?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

If your plants can't get sufficient light indoors you will need actual grow lights. Try something like this, I've used these for overwintering peppers with success.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074GR1KRT/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_c7pUBbEC87M8N

I use this:

Lovebay Timing Function Dual Head Grow Light https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074GR1KRT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_HNw4Cb83S2GBY

I like that I can set it as a timer, and it will auto shut off in the morning in case I forget (I turn it on at night because I don't like the color during the day). I also like that there are two heads, which I face in slightly different directions to reach all my plants. Currently, 8 plants are using this on a shelf where one light gets the ones that are high, and the other gets the ones that are low. Works well for me!

Thank you! It’s partial indirect sun light, and this grow light. It has a timer and a dimmer which are really handy!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074GR1KRT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_zQwAAb2DZB0M5

Yes!

Fair play man, and I get the stressed thing. We'd do anything to make them happy and growing vigorously :). We've all been in that boat man. I feel your pain.

I'd germ another seed and start that off too and get a backup going because, I know you hope it will, but in reality she won't produce much most likely. Sorry.

To give her a fighting chance please crank the light distance back up. Here is a distance chart from an advert of it. 12" will cause her further damage.

Also, not to be harsh, but check peoples post history before taking their advice mate. A lot of people talk the talk but have never walked the walk, which means their advice is often based on their book reading or assumptions. Not personal experience of the plant, techniques or kit.

My mistake, I thought it was a 300 but it’s 600w

Phlizon 600W LED Plant Grow Light,with Thermometer Humidity Monitor,with Adjustable Rope,Full Spectrum Double Switch Plant Light for Indoor Plants Veg and Flower- 600W(10W LEDs 60Pcs) https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0752CL6KJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_uIyqDbK1YKRCV

This is the lamp I'm looking at

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0752CL6KJ/ref=cm_sw_r_fm_apa_i_s9aHDbY6JYAHP

What sort of wattage are you using for your lighting? I'm similarly moving into hyro testing, but finding my current lights are enough to grow but not sufficient to flower or fruit. I've been looking at .5-1kw lights like this. Is that close to what you are using? I'm mostly just experimenting, but I want to make sure I'm on the right track.

This is the light I’m using.

https://www.amazon.com/Phlizon-Thermometer-Humidity-Adjustable-Spectrum/dp/B0752CL6KJ/ref=pd_m_ba_rp_of_8?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=JZPMBM715K2QP5HRDS9H

https://www.amazon.com/Phlizon-Thermometer-Humidity-Adjustable-Spectrum/dp/B0752CL6KJ/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1539363778&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=grow+lights&dpPl=1&dpID=419qEBaal3L&ref=plSrch

I haven’t started yet, but the seeds are in the mail. I’m planning on going with this bucket in this tent with this light .

grow light ordered 600w

Hey man so how do u know wat actual wattage is ?? I'm looking to buy a light for a 1 plant small tent and i don't want to buy lights twice. For example this is only 100w light ???
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Phlizon-Thermometer-Humidity-Adjustable-Spectrum/dp/B0752CL6KJ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?keywords=400w+hps+grow+light&qid=1557525667&s=gateway&sprefix=400w+hps+&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1

too lazy to look for the model number, so here are the amazon links

Meizhi 600w

Phlizon 600W

the meizhi is definitely better for sure

You could get two of these:
https://www.amazon.ca/Phlizon-Thermometer-Humidity-Adjustable-Spectrum/dp/B0752CL6KJ

Here are the respective links to the lights I was talking about. although I have no experience with grow lights, so I might be looking at bullshit, you'll have to let me know👍🏼.

COB LED Grow Light Full Spectrum 300W, CF GROW Indoor LED Plant Grow Lamp for Hydroponic Greenhouse Plant All Stage Growth Lighting Replace UFO Growing Lamp, High PAR Output https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XJ9W4GX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_2kYXDbM9GBMWQ

VIVOSUN 300W LED Grow Light Full Spectrum for Hydroponic Indoor Plants Growing Veg and Flowering https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07843C284/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_olYXDb38DK18V

VIPARSPECTRA UL Certified 300W LED Grow Light, with Daisy Chain, Full Spectrum Plant Growing Lights for Indoor Plants Veg and Flower https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B4GQ6MO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_ElYXDbPTK09FZ

Phlizon Newest 600W LED Plant Grow Light,with Thermometer Humidity Monitor,with Adjustable Rope,Full Spectrum Double Switch Plant Light for Indoor Plants Veg and Flower- 600W(10W LEDs 60Pcs) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0752CL6KJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_RlYXDbSE8S0AN

LED Plant Grow Lights, KINGBO 600W High Power Grow Lamp with Optical Lens, Double Chip/Three Chip, 12-Band Full Spectrum Grow Light for Indoor Plants Veg and Flower (Daisy Chain Function) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H2TFCMF/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_0lYXDbEENATZG

currently using a 300W LED light from VIVOSUN and its been doing great for my 2 pepper plants 2 cannabis plants and a tomato/dill plant i have going,

but im looking into investing into another LED light, this time a 600W to add to my 4x4 tent.

Looking at a few options but im not sure if they're good or not.

vivosun 600w vivosun is reliable and great but its cost is 120$

This no name brand named wakyme is only 60$ and has a dual switch and comes with a few things, but i've never seen any on this subreddit and the reviews seem alright but im not sure.

and lastly this one, phlizon tons of reviews, seems like an older model but also comes with goodies and is only 80$ with a dual switch.


should i go with ol reliable and spend almost double without a dual switch and no goodies with it, or do some of you use these brands and know they are reliable and great to sustain my 4x4 tent with my already 300W led light which is doing great.

So not this amazon light then?

Phlizon 600W LED Plant Grow Light,with Thermometer Humidity Monitor,with Adjustable Rope,Full Spectrum Double Switch Plant Light for Indoor Plants Veg and Flower- 600W(10W LEDs 60Pcs) https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0752CL6KJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_qr-RCbVY391PB

I saw a comment about that the other day, I think I will try that method for a few plants on Monday when my new light arrives. Here is a link to the light I ordered, link. Let me know what you think!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0752CL6KJ?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title and the other light I got with the kit says it’s 600w but not sure of actual power it pulls from the wall. My dimensions are in meters sorry.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0752CL6KJ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This light has been working great for my two adult females. It is good enough for 2 adult plants. If you have 4 adult plants then buy two of these.

You tell me. I have no idea Lol: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0752CL6KJ/ref=od_aui_detailpages03?ie=UTF8&psc=1

A few weeks out of the germination box, they’ve been under

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0752CL6KJ/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This light, on the veg setting, about 12 inches above the plants. Planted in miracle grow type potting mix, no additional nutrients added.

Thanks!!

Here's the link. Should work fine. I bought two of them and they're working well for all my plants.

https://www.amazon.com/Osunby-Growing-Indoor-Plants-Hydroponic/dp/B075JFPLY1/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1538167418&sr=8-5&keywords=UV+plant+lamp
A UV Lamp/Light for plants. I don't have one I was just wondering if they are safe.

https://www.amazon.com/Osunby-Growing-Indoor-Plants-Hydroponic/dp/B075JFPLY1?keywords=grow+lights&qid=1537293528&sr=8-4&ref=mp_s_a_1_4

Using this 100% timer Pure Resveratrol - 1000mg... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MVF16JG?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

And this light
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075JFPLY1?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

It’s actually one of the small 45W led panels from Amazon :) https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075JFPLY1/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I moved the panel closer to my plants (about 4 inches away) and I’ve kept it on for 12+ hours, and they have been really happy

That is an expensive way to light a tray, IMHO. A cheap $10 analog timer will automate that for you (granted, no remote control)


As far as how well, that depends on all the sciency stuff about par and lumens and all that. I'll just say there are an array of HUE lights and one might work and another might not. You could get a cheap set of LED lights and put them on a timer and have all the light you need for $50 (with the timer)


To get you by, you could try the HUE and see if the plants get leggy. I'd suggest having a backup regardless and as long as you're buying a backup just do that first and don't mess with the HUE bulbs.

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I've used these (and other similar ones) - this particular item also offers a $10 digital timer as an option:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075JFPLY1/

Suggestion, get something like this and mount directly to the under side of the shelf, without the cables, just screw it in.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075JFPLY1/ref=psdcmw_14252941_t1_B07CNRSGJC

Why are these leaves suddenly falling off?

• Photos: WTF NOOOOOO
  
• Drainage: Standard terracotta
  
• Potting medium: 50/50 cactus soil and perlite
  
• Water: every 4-6 days. I dig in the soil to make sure it's dry before watering. I live in a very dry climate.
  
• Sunlight: 12 hours under this light. I brought it outside for the photos above.
  
• History: I've had this plant for about two months. The leaves started falling off yesterday, two days after I moved to a new apartment down the hall from the old one. I was gentle moving the plants. All the others seem to be fine.
  
  
  

HLG 65 on amazon

This little 65w QB is $99:


https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Board-Grow-Bloom-4000K/dp/B076QDKVDZ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1518372651&sr=8-1&keywords=hlg+65w&dpID=41VH0BhlCnL&preST=_SX342_QL70_&dpSrc=srch


I've been using it for clones and seedlings and it works great.

Okay, help me here. I see this one. Are the actual watts 65? 800w/65w = 12.30 lights? I would need 12 of these for 16 square feet?

This is for my important plants
HLG 65 V2 4000K https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076QDKVDZ/

My props and whatever’s are under a few Cree LED yard light bulbs and stressing nicely

What about one of these HLG 65 V2 4000k? I'm thinking about getting one for a clone tent.

https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Board-Grow-Bloom-4000K/dp/B076QDKVDZ

In that size of a tent I would 100% just do one at a time and focus on getting as much as you can from it. I've gotten 200g+ from my mephistos. I would get this light https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Board-Grow-Bloom-4000K/dp/B076QDKVDZ

i am considering these

https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Board-Grow-Bloom-4000K/dp/B076QDKVDZ

https://www.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-USA-Quantum/dp/B07C57J7XX


my tent is 2x4 and 5ft high. The first one is probably too small? Would the second suffice?

Is this what your talking about?

Is there a cheaper alternative?

Is this the one you got?
What do you use for a fan and filter?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076QDKVDZ/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awdo_t1_YRHhDbF4STW1M

I would stay way from any of the cheap Chinese LED lights like Roleadro, Mars Hydro and similar. The light that I would recommend for your setup would be the HLG-65 from Horticulture Lighting Group. This light uses top bin Samsung S6 diodes which are extremely efficient. They put out a ton of light and use very little power. This light also generates very little heat and doesn't require a heatsink or fans. It produces white light at 4000k which is a little warmer then sun light. I recently bought two of these boards and they have fantastic for vegetative growth.

Depends on how much you’d like to spend. An HLG65 would probably be perfect for her, you can find em on Amazon here.
HLG 65 Quantum Board LED Grow Lamp Veg & Bloom 4000K https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076QDKVDZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_wOz.Bb0FT0XJ0

If you’d like to go with something cheaper I would just try and find something that puts out more than 100 Watts.

Not enough light man use way more than 2 bulbs. They are not 50W draw...

https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Board-Grow-Bloom-4000K/dp/B076QDKVDZ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1542117953&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=hlg+65&dpPl=1&dpID=4155OYwc2cL&ref=plSrch

Its crazy how many people are worrying about spectrum and color temperature but only using 8 watts worth of lighting

Invest in a better grow light. Something like an hlg 65 would be perfect for you grow space

HLG 65 Quantum Board LED Grow Lamp Veg & Bloom 4000K https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076QDKVDZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_2ND6BbTVQR4BZ

Might also want to give them some kelp extract as a root booster to fortify.

Would this one be a good start https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076QDKVDZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_rnU4CbD00FPCB

> Quantum board

this? https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Board-Grow-Bloom-4000K/dp/B076QDKVDZ

I have a few different lights but for my jalapeño plant I’m using a HLG 65 V2 4000K Horticulture... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076QDKVDZ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

A good light probably going to run you 100-200 for a 1-2 plant set up. This one was recommended to me the other day for a small 1 plant grow https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Board-Grow-Bloom-4000K/dp/B076QDKVDZ?ref_=bl_dp_s_mw_18674157011
Heard you can find em cheaper on alibaba app

This is within my price range is this a decent one for a few plants?

https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Board-Grow-Bloom-4000K/dp/B076QDKVDZ

Amazon, HLG


Ordered this one


HLG 65 V2 4000K Horticulture Lighting Group Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom 4000K | Version 2 High-Efficiency Upgraded LM301B LED's https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076QDKVDZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_i3MKDbN8MT81N


Thinking of getting this one

Horticulture Lighting Group HLG 100 V2 3000K Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom | Version 2 High-Efficiency Upgraded LM301B LED's https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C59J8L2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_e4MKDbRYJXDE7

Would 165 watts be too much for them? And how far away should i keep each one? The 65 watt says about 20 inches I'm assuming the 100watt will be slightly more

HLG 65 V2 4000K Horticulture Lighting Group Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom 4000K | Version 2 High-Efficiency Upgraded LM301B LED's https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076QDKVDZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_1PR2DbTPR6A06

VIPARSPECTRA UL Certified 300W LED Grow Light, with Daisy Chain, Full Spectrum Plant Growing Lights for Indoor Plants Veg and Flower https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B4GQ6MO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ZRR2Db5QBN8R8

Less money. The viparspectra will pull more electricity but will put out less light.

Heats not really a big issue. They can take colder temps, just not under freezing. If you are in a garage, someplace cold, you should look into building an enclosure, or buying a tent you can heat.

The bigger they get, the more light they need to keep growing. https://www.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-High-Efficiency-Upgraded/dp/B076QDKVDZ/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?keywords=hlg+led&qid=1572995821&sr=8-7

Blurple or full spectrum lights can work, but something like this is way way better. Look into indoor weed growing set ups.

Yeah your tent is the right size for flowering 4 medium-large plants or 9 smaller ones (like if you took clones of a photoperiod strain). Anyway, 3 autos have a good chance to not even fill up the whole space, which could be good for your first run not having to invest as much in lights all at once.

"Quantum board" specifically is a name brand by the company HLG that I mentioned in the previous post. They're really good and use the highest efficiency LM301B Samsung diodes but require a bit of assembly unless you want to pay a whole bunch extra. No soldering or anything though, just some screws and wire connectors This 260W kit for $350 would cover most of your tent at a full flowering brightness and spectrum. It would probably require that plus a second smaller light to completely cover the 3x3. Which could work out great if you started off with a small cheaper light during veg for the first few weeks and then add the bigger light later on.

My suggestion if you wanted to do that would either be to start with the small HLG boards you can get preassembled on amazon (two of the 65w $100 HLG65 or one of the 100W $150 HLG100) or one 150W $140 MarsHydro SP-150.
I would not suggest any of the other MarsHydro lights besides the SP-150 or SP-250. Those are their only ones with a proper heat sink and high efficiency diodes. They are not quite as efficient as the quantum boards but are fairly close and are much cheaper than any other preassembled light in this efficiency range with a decent build quality.


Another option with the same type of Samsung diodes as the HLG in another form factor are the chilled logic pucks I mentioned like this 400W 4 puck system for $600 which would absolutely completely cover the entire tent right off the bat and could even be dimmed down while plants are younger.

HLG 65 V2 4000K Horticulture Lighting Group Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom 4000K | Version 2 High-Efficiency Upgraded LM301B LED's https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076QDKVDZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_pW9UCbD1SQFCK

Lot of people seem to be using these lights.

Those quantum boards look easy and somewhat affordable. Would something like this work for vegging a 4x4? HLG 65 Quantum Board LED Grow Lamp Veg & Bloom 4000K https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076QDKVDZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_c-3-AbXGSCNSP from what I’m reading the actually power consumption is only 99 Watts? Thst doesn’t seem like enough to do anything

So would this be a solid system for my tent size? https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Board-Grow-Bloom-4000K/dp/B076QDKVDZ

For just a few more dollars you could have gotten a much better grow light. This grow light on Amazon is 99 dollars opposed to 68 or 69 and is made by the horticulture group. It also has 4k lighting. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076QDKVDZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This one? My ambient temp is going to be in the low 60s-40s and maybe lower so the light choice shouldn't matter up to a point, I just want to minimize heat just as a preventative measure since my tent is in a smallish closet and I'm only gonna run one plant at a time. I already have a free bulb so I was gonna buy two more but the final price equals the price of the board. However, I will humor you. Given the lack of reviews, can you justify your claim ?

Found it on amazon

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B076QDKVDZ/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A45WQBIVL5BVB&psc=1

I need to decide on these vs t5’s

They have some cheaper lights for $150 that aren’t sold out. It’s around a 200 watt output compared to these ones. Horticulture Lighting Group HLG 100 V2 3000K Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom | Version 2 High-Efficiency Upgraded LM301B LED's https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C59J8L2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_.itHDbYF42X58

https://www.amazon.com/BESTVA-Reflector-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Elite-600W/dp/B074K25WD2/ref=mp_s_a_1_10_sspa?keywords=bestva&qid=1559020553&s=gateway&sr=8-10-spons&psc=1


https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Board-Grow-Bloom-3000K/dp/B07C59J8L2/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=quantum+board&qid=1559020631&s=gateway&sr=8-3

Yep, absolutely love taking all this information and learning more about it, i am so fascinated by this process and have learned so much. Thank you for the input, and idk what my “liking” is right now as i yet to find out what i like rather then what they need and im at that point where ill do anything for them to be ok. Lol(to a point ofcourse) just, am inpatient so looking at them everyday and seeing no difference is bugging me, hopefully this new one will do better.

New one

Horticulture Lighting Group HLG 100 V2 3000K Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom | Version 2 High-Efficiency Upgraded LM301B LED's https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C59J8L2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Uyv4Cb2WP4FQM

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B07C59J8L2/ref=dp_olp_new_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=new would this be sufficient for my tent then? still cant figure out actual wattage cause Im stupid i guess...its saying 95 wats.

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i guess for 30 more dollars i could get it right from the site https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/products/260w-qb-led-kit?variant=14331333804081

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really not sure of the difference between the two.

These?

Nice! You won’t be disappointed. Good luck!!!

Just an FYI - it looks like the 135 is a lit you have to assemble and the actual light board is the same wattage as the 100. Either way you’ll be happy.

The HLG 100 was fully assembled:

https://www.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-High-Efficiency-Upgraded/dp/B07C59J8L2

Last bit of advice - if you’re going to get a exhaust fan don’t get the Vivosun. I love their tent but the fan started making horrible noise after 17 days. They were cool about the refund but I went with:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002JQ4N92?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

It’s not a variable speed though but at least it’s an even sound. Like a window AC unit. Maybe a bit louder.

You're paying 130, right? For a few dollars more you can get a HLG light off amazon that would flower your 2x2 just fine.

https://smile.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-High-Efficiency-Upgraded/dp/B07C59J8L2

What is a pcb board?

My spot is 2×4'

2 of these:

LED Grow Light 800W - Full Spectrum 3000K COB LED Grow Lights 3W Osram Chips with UV IR Daisy Chain for Hydroponics Indoor Plants https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HH2FNW9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_zhDTDb4PAF9AE

Or

3 of these:

Horticulture Lighting Group HLG 100 V2 3000K Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom | Version 2 High-Efficiency Upgraded LM301B LED's https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C59J8L2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_uOETDb12TWERN

First off, I'm going to be growing in a 3' x 2' x 5' tent. I'm aiming at growing organically and as cheaply as possible. I have quite the compost pile going on and also own chickens, so I've got an abundance of free nutrients. I'd rather not buy all this stuff I see in growing videos as this is more of a budget, work with what you got kind of grow. I will buy additional nutes if I have to, though.

As for lighting, I'm leaning towards this light atm: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C59J8L2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3OJY9E0ZY1FCH&psc=1

Still deciding on what I'll get for exhaust/filtration.

When you say cleanliness, are you talking about sanitization of tools and workspace or more about pests?

I see temperature and humidity being my biggest hurdle as I'm currently planning on growing in the garage and things can get kind of cold. May decide to grow in closet instead.

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I got this very low profile grow light from Amazon it says 20watts

ACKE LED Grow Light for Indoor Plants,Plant Light for Grow Light Stand,DIY Indoor Growing Light Panel for Germination,Seedling,Vegetative Growth and Flowering https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GGX3R9T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_JgfxDbDCBNXN9

I have this light hanging from a shelf that I use for growing basil indoors: ACKE LED Grow Light for Indoor Plants,Plant Light for Grow Light Stand,DIY Indoor Growing Light Panel for Germination,Seedling,Vegetative Growth and Flowering

https://www.amazon.com/ACKE-Germination-Seedling-Vegetative-Flowering/dp/B07GGX3R9T

You can configure it lengthwise instead of how it’s shown in the picture. And I think you can connect two set together, but don’t know that for sure.

It’s a warm white light which is accomplished by having white and red LEDs

Edit: link

Typically nepenthes aren’t too picky on lighting but a cheap grow light I love(mainly for the low price and simplicity) is the Acke grow light https://www.amazon.com/ACKE-Germination-Seedling-Vegetative-Flowering/dp/B07GGX3R9T/ref=asc_df_B07GGX3R9T/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=242081228138&hvpos=1o3&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9594542324276355578&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9022987&hvtargid=pla-533179316540&psc=1
That’s the “normal light” version, there’s another one that’s super pink. I haven’t noticed much difference in the effectiveness of either.

I've had good luck with this one

A small 20watt LED panel, but one that's NOT blurple since it's on all the time in a living area of the house and I really didn't want to deal with a pink glow in my kitchen all the time.

This is the one I got.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GGX3R9T/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_3FkNDb82DW4C7

ACKE LED Grow Light for Indoor Plants,Plant Light for Grow Light Stand,DIY Indoor Growing Light Panel for Germination,Seedling,Vegetative Growth and Flowering https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GGX3R9T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_p3LYDbDX85QCH

These would work great with your table!!

I use 20w LED lights. Specifically this model:

ACKE LED Grow Light for Indoor Plants,Plant Light for Grow Light Stand,DIY Indoor Growing Light Panel for Germination,Seedling,Vegetative Growth and Flowering https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GGX3R9T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_daXOCb4WJYD91

I switched to LED from fluorescent this year. If you use fluorescent you need to move them to be about 3 inches from the tallest plant so they don’t burnt on the bulb.

With my LED lights I have the plants up to 1 foot away and they aren’t stretching for the light because they offer great lighting for plants.

Does that help? If you like you can check out my channel for a bunch more of pepper related stuff:

www.youtube.com/c/farmergeorge

Let’s Share and Grow Together :)

Here you go!

Not sure the wattage but it’s just a basic red/blue spectrum indoor LED plant light. I also have a basic daylight colored LED bulb in a little lamp for the Lophophora seedlings on the same shelf so the Sally’s get a bit of that light as well.

https://www.amazon.com/Upgraded-Dimmable-Spectrum-Adjustable-Gooseneck/dp/B07H57K565/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=indoor+plant+light&qid=1566477645&s=gateway&sr=8-3

https://www.amazon.com/Upgraded-Dimmable-Spectrum-Adjustable-Gooseneck/dp/B07H57K565

I was considering this light

How many watts should the grow light be if the plant is about 1’5”?

Because I got one from amazon but it’s apparently not enough as on the website it’s marked as 40 watts but the guy said 40 watts per LED but it’s 20 watts when in usage or something around that

This is the light

Grow Light, Ankace [2019 Upgraded Version] 40W Dual Head Timing 36 LED 5 Dimmable Levels Plant Grow Lights for Indoor Plants with Red/Blue Spectrum, A https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H57K565/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_jQwu4ezdtxNZX

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H57K565/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_96A4CbQ9MQEJN is this the light youre using? let me know how you like it, it looks pretty perfect for my window setup & relatively inexpensive!

White LEDs don't provide a full light spectrum like a white fluorescent will, so your plants won't thrive under one. I personally use this for a tank-turned-terrarium of mine - it's affordable and my plants have been loving it. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H57K565/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_nrGZDb28ZEWYP

I'm very new to growing succulents and this will be my first time bringing them inside for the winter. Would this be a good grow light? I only have 6 plants at the moment
https://www.amazon.com/Upgraded-Dimmable-Spectrum-Adjustable-Gooseneck/dp/B07H57K565/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?keywords=single+timer+grow+light&qid=1574083712&sr=8-4

I have a single succulent, I’m using this grow light for it. Would this be enough for just 1 succulent? Or should I get a desk lamp with a 6500k bulb for it?

that would be fine, but I prefer grow lights that have colored LEDs in order to help my plants produce chlorophyll. a cheaper alternative that I’ve had for abt a year is this: ankace grow light . This is the best one I’ve tried!! :)) hope this helps

I don't know if you're still looking, but I've loved this 40W one. It's $20, it comes in two days, and it's brought out some great colors in all my different plants. It's not the strongest, but I think my plants are happier and I'm actually about to buy a second one. It has a timer feature and can clip onto tables and whatever else. I love it.

I use the red and blue grow lights. I leave them on for 12 hours a day, but I didn't think this type of grow light was that strong.

Could it cause the scarring on these leaves? They're over all of these Cremnosedum "Little Gems". I do put them in the sun for a couple of hours during the weekend as well. Could it be sun damage?

I use this grow light:

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H57K565/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://imgur.com/a/S1G8j93

Its a red and blue mix i just grabbed one of the cheaper ones off amazon. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07H57K565?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

Hello, thanks for the response. Currently growing this succulent using this light

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H57K565/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Its just a little LED light

https://www.amazon.com/KINGBO-Spectrum-Gooseneck-2-Switch-Replaceable/dp/B07LG39B3M?ref_=Oct_CARAsinC_14252941_3&pf_rd_p=bf98d1fc-853a-5849-80d4-b55241de1a6a&pf_rd_s=mobile-hybrid-5&pf_rd_t=30901&pf_rd_i=14252941&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=TS5NP0D8Y3B9QJ44NH4K&pf_rd_r=TS5NP0D8Y3B9QJ44NH4K&pf_rd_p=bf98d1fc-853a-5849-80d4-b55241de1a6a

I currently have a dieffenbachia, peace lily, bromeliads and croton. I’ll use the light for the croton, dieffenbachia and peace lily. I’m considering this light: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07LG39B3M/ref=psdc_14252941_t1_B07Q4RQ4V6

Thanks!!!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07LG39B3M?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
It’s only 30 for the one I got and it’s really bright

Yes and it’s a little oscillating desk top tower fan hooked up with my timer. These are the lights https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07LG39B3M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_-vsQCbE1TJ63M.

Appreciate the advice. I found this on amazon: https://www.amazon.com/KINGBO-Spectrum-Gooseneck-2-Switch-Replaceable/dp/B07LG39B3M/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?keywords=plant+light&qid=1556394641&s=gateway&sr=8-6

Someone in a review has their Heliamphoras and Sundews under it and said they were thriving. Not sure if this would work.

I got them both on amazon! The top lights are: KINGBO Newest 50W Led Grow Light Bulb for Indoor Plants, Super Bright 100 LEDs Sunlike Full Spectrum Grow Lamp White, Dual Head Gooseneck Desk Plant Light with 2-Switch, Replaceable Bulb (2019 Update) https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07LG39B3M/ref=ya_aw_oh_bia_dp?ie=UTF8&psc=1#

The purple lights are: from Brite labs and have a timer with adjustable light intensities
https://www.amazon.com/Brite-Labs/b/ref=bl_dp_s_mw_19491218011?ie=UTF8&node=19491218011&field-lbr_brands_browse-bin=Brite+Labs

Happy planting! 💜

The moisture seems to do alright spreading without the fan. I don't think you would necessarily need it. I use it to increase air flow in order to prevent algae from taking over the tops of the soil on my plants in there and possible mold.

You might want to ask more about lighting from r/mosses since they're better equipped to discuss moss needs than I am. I know that my moss has been fine with this (https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07LG39B3M?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title) placed about 10 inches from the moss and turned on for 10 hours a day. But, I have no clue if that's optimal, I just know it works for me.

This is the exact light that I got here:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07LG39B3M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It had a lot of good reviews, and it seemed pretty close to sunlight. So far I think my herbs are doing quite well (my cilantro and dill have really taken off) but I would absolutely love trying to grow fruiting plants like tomatoes or peppers inside if it's at all possible. I live in an apartment in Minnesota with no balcony, so I'd really love to find a good alternative to a yard! :)

I'd love to have a link to your YouTube channel, if you wouldn't mind sending it to me.

Check out EveryThang on YouTube, he has videos on the lights he uses and how echeveria color works.

Grow lights have been a chore to shop for, there are so many variations and the made in china stuff has a wide mix of reviews. The purple ones hurt my eyes (if you have thick or cheap glasses they will be extra bad- double vision), so shopping for white... I’m leaning towards a Sunblaster LED, if I can find one.
They also depend on your setup- can you hang a 4’ tube above your plants? An 18” tube? A single bulb? A clip light? A monster unit with cooling fans built in?
I have a Kingbo 50W led dual-head that stopped etoliation on an echeveria elegans (https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07LG39B3M?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title) but I’m not sure it’s enough to maintain color. Mine is on for 14 hours in a sunny window and my black prince is only green-blackish, so probably not.
Time of the light depends on how strong and how far away it is.

Monios-L T8 LED Grow Light 2FT, 144W(6×24W) High Output Plant Grow Light Strip, Full Spectrum Sunlight Replacement with High PAR for Indoor Plant, 6-Pack

Looking for some input on set up specifically for my lighting plan.

Placed in
VIVOSUN 2-in-1 48”x36”x72” Mylar... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HQMX3S1?

My primary lights for flower
Yueme 1500W LED Grow Light Full... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0794WHD4M

Supplemental lights as well as my veg and seedlings lights.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QFPBQDR?

I'm using the supplemental lights to bring out my seeds and veg. Thought if stringing up the 4 other lights between my plants for extra lights.
Asking my experts in the field should I place the lights around or between my planned 4 plants.

Alright man thank you. I'm leaning towards the 400w HID light because it is cheaper than 2 LED's and I have read that it provides denser and more potent buds.. but I have a few questions/concerns that I hope you could clear up for me:

• This is the setup I would plan on running. HID LIGHT
  
  
• Would this light fit in my tent size with ample room to grow in. I wont be running huge plants but I plan on a SCROG as well as some fat buds. Could I do this without the possibility of burning my plants.
  
  
• Would I be able to run this light without having crazy temps in my tent? I live in texas but the area I am growing in will have AC as well as a place to vent.
  
  
• How would I go about cooling a light like this? I see that on the picture it has a place on either side of the light for ducting. How would you go about doing this? I already have an inline fan in my cart but what would you specifically do? Hook vents up to either sides of the light and exhaust out a window or something? Is there a video that demonstrates this or any photos you could share of your own setup?
  
  Thank you in advance, I'm just trying to make my dollar reach as far as I can.

This is basically the light I have if not the exact one. I do have one inline exhaust fan.

I can easily pickup a few other fans on the way home tonight but is there a special fan just for the light fixture or just regular fans by the fixture?

I should probably clarify. On a smaller box/project, with about 200-300cfm of total exhaust, I hit heat problems with over the counter CFL's. Granted I had a lot of them, but I still had to reduce my lighting and watch the temps like a hawk. The hydrofarm fixture is at my local grow store. I can touch the reflector and not burn myself, I estimate it to have a surface temp of say 100-120F. How would that compare to a 150watt HPS?

My friend has used both 600 and 1000watt hps, the 600 alone puts out insane, heat; too hot to touch the reflector assemble bare handed, and the lens/glass has burned people in the past. Granted he could have used a cool tube, but he was low on cash and time.


Perhaps 2 of the smaller 150's: http://www.amazon.com/Hydrofarm-SBM150S-150-Watt-Mini-Sunburst/dp/B0055F80H0/ or a single 400 with a cool tube http://www.amazon.com/iPower-GLSETX400DHMCT6-400-Watt-Digital-Dimmable/dp/B005GYRB9S/ would be better than the CFLs?

Size requirements help, but if you can dish out $150 you can get this

This light is listed in our starter shopping list at the top.

Also move your filter/air intake up high in the tent because...heat rises. Vent air in from the low vents, out from the high ones. Air condition the outer room and cooler air will be drawn in. Fans, fans, fans.

You really want to go with a cooltube, or you're going to deal with heat issues.

The cooltube version of that 400W is just $25 more on Amazon.

I ended up purchasing this today:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GYRB9S/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

I recently bought this one http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GL60LED-Spectrum-Growing/dp/B00FGFW0XO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407520148&sr=8-1&keywords=apollo+led+180 and put some CFL's down low for complete coverage and so far so good!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FGFW0XO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_iGGyDbMT56X1P

here is a cheaper link direct from manufacturers shop on amazon.

Unknown about the wall. Probably less than that. The 180 UFO I have is the Apollo. I forgot to mention I also have 1 strip of LEDs wrapped around the walls.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FGFW0XO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_e75dAbSP24Y96

Hi everyone, here is an update on my first ever grow. So far my plant hasn't been as vigirous as I would have liked, I would love to hear what you guys think. Below is all the information on my setup.

Light: 180W Apollo ufo

Side Lighting: None

Growing Medium: scotts osmocote plus organics vegetable and herb mix mixed with 1/3 perlite

Temps: 21-24C (70-75f)

Humidity: 35-55%

Distance from top of plant to light: 30cm (12 inches)

Water ph: 6

Runnoff ph: 5.5

Nutrients: None (3 months of feed was advertised in the soil I used)

I fim'ed roughly 7 days ago. Is that supposed to dramatically change how the plant grows? It seems as though the plant is back to growing normally just with slightly shorter leaves on the top two nodes. I also lst'ed last week by bending over the main stalk. Finding a place to wrap the plant wire around without blocking nodes was kind of hard as it is very short and bushy.

Based on the pictures and information do you guys have any recommendation to increase the rate of growth? Also how should I be preparing her for flowering?

I think that will work, I might spend a little more for a this one here for about 30% more power/draw but what you have chosen will also work.

I would look into upgrading your lights. If you want to go the LED route, I would look into getting a ufo grow light like this one.

If you don't want to drop the money on an LED grow light, you can always go the CFL route. There are numerous builds on here that you can pull inspiration from.

This one?

If so the t5 has more power and should for sure be the primary light. I would use them both top mounted and as low to canopy as possible.

Thanks for the reply. Given the draw number you're referring to, two of these (one over each plant):

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FGFW0XO

Would provide 109 watts (draw) per unit, or 218 total. Does combining lights this way achieve the same goal?

One of these? :P
http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GL60LED-Spectrum-Growing/dp/B00FGFW0XO/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1416401403&sr=1-1&keywords=180w+led+grow+light

If so, how's it work? I've been considering buying one, but I'm leaning towards the 300W rectangle light by Apollo, as it's only $40 more.

Apollo Horticulture GL60LED Full... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FGFW0XO?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

LED UFO from amazon. gg&wp

something like this, but in your local Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GL60LED-Spectrum-Growing/dp/B00FGFW0XO

from spacebuckets website

I prefer to DIY my own lights, but it can be slightly more costly if you don't already have tools and material laying around.

On the spacebuckets website someone recommends using the following

and I went back to amazon and searched for one with white LEDs. I found only this one

Do you have one that you could recommend?

Info: Samsquanch auto from Mephesto 5 gal smart pot with ocean forest. Popped on New Year’s Day. Last two watering have been ph’d water at 6.8 exactly. Previous watering before that included less than a quarter strength of fox farms big bloom and a 1/4tsp of calmag that is 2-0-0 all ph’d at 6.8 with ph down.

For water I’ve been using both purchased gallons of spring water or tap water which is fairly alkaline at 8.0ph. Usually takes over 15 drops of ph down in a gallon of water to adjust. Does that sound about right? Worried the ph down is affecting the plant.

The top of the plant is showing a different deficiency, which from what I can tell is possibly manganese (the random brown splotches on newer leaves). The lower leaves were browning from the edges, but that has since stopped.

Edit: this is my cob led from amazon. light Says 800 Watts, but I don’t believe it’s even 300 true watts. There is also a 180 watt ufo led in there but not directly over the plant. UFO Light

Apollo 180W UFO LED

I have five of this type 4100K, mine are all 300W equivalent. (considering getting one more) https://www.1000bulbs.com/category/300-watt-equal-compact-fluorescents-4100K/

and one of these.

http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GL60LED-Spectrum-Growing/dp/B00FGFW0XO/ref=sr_1_2?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1418429616&sr=1-2&keywords=apollo+led

well I recently bought 2 of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GL60LED-Spectrum-Growing/dp/B00FGFW0XO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1421426521&sr=8-1&keywords=led+ufo

As for why I posted is I just got an email from the site that I posted above that they are having a sale on a lot of LED's. Figured that they are probably no good, but thought I'd ask and post for others. Maybe someone can find something useful on there. :)

Hey, sorry edited my first post a couple times as I was going down each item and realizing I can't buy it.



http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00RXAJ466?keywords=UFO%20light&qid=1449809523&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1


http://www.amazon.ca/Apollo-Horticulture-GL60LED-Spectrum-Growing/dp/B00FGFW0XO/ref=sr_1_56?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1449809635&sr=1-56&keywords=Grow+Light

Or what are the differences between these 2 lights? Both 180W but an $80 difference.

Gotta love no reviews on Canadian shit.

Would this be enough light for the whole bucket? http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GL60LED-Spectrum-Growing/dp/B00FGFW0XO/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1454074121&sr=1-1&keywords=led+ufo

I have that light and it is not enough to grow a plant under. Check out /r/spacebuckets for more bucket/small grow info on something the size of a mini fridge. This or This will grow plants in a small space, I've grown under both.

Thanks for asking! The plant shown in the imgur album has a 180W (not sure it's actually putting that much out) UFO light, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FGFW0XO/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Have you considered just getting a chinese LED? They are like 70 bucks, sometimes as cheap as 55.

https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Spectrum-Certification-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B00XC3LBI2/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HI3AFYM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_ep_dp_MojxybY5WSABR

https://www.amazon.com/VIPARSPECTRA-Reflector-Spectrum-Indoor-Plants/dp/B01B4GQ6MO

https://smile.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Spectrum-Certification-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B00XC3LBI2/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1485302764&sr=1-1&keywords=mars+hydro

You using this light?

Looks like you have it 12-16" above plants and a what... 3'x3' area for each one? I just built mine, but was considering getting more or getting a setup for when the big plants get bigger than the shelving would allow.

Looks like you have ~13 tomatos under one and ~17 tomatos/peppers under the other... how big will they get until you plant outside? Will those 2 lights be enough? (Just trying to figure out my own logistics)

I like the room though btw :)

https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Spectrum-Certification-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B00XC3LBI2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1484385337&sr=8-3&keywords=300w+led+grow

 

https://www.amazon.com/Galaxyhydro-Greenhouse-Indoor-Hydroponic-Lighting/dp/B00PH1MQV8/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1484385337&sr=8-4&keywords=300w+led+grow

 

https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Upgrade-Developed-Spectrum-Generation/dp/B01HI3AFYM/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1484385337&sr=8-9&keywords=300w+led+grow

So If I would upgrade I'd probably take something like this Mars 300w. However I read that the true wattage is around 170w while the true wattage of my cfl setup would be around 184w. Is this relevant?

The link in the starter list doesn't work. But the Mars 300 are still widely available at cheap prices on Amazon and ebay

https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Mars300-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B00XC3LBI2/

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MarsHydro-Light-Spectrum-Indoor-Hydroponic/dp/B00PU6X3DA/

This is what I used for my 2x4 tent and it worked perfectly - https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Indoor-Growing/dp/B00XC3LBI2

Don't go with the cheaper light. 50w of red and blue led's arent going to be enough PAR to get you through flowering.

The 2nd option should work. but instead Look into mars hydro 300w LEDS. I've seen grow videos on youtube of someone using 1 of those to veg for referencelink and 2 to flower. he produced 6 plants that way.so you may be able to get by doing 1 plant under 1 300w led. The plants yield will be limited by the factor in least supply- so all the light wont help if your short on nutrients, and all the nutrients wont help if your short on light. 300w redbluewhite led is a good start for a casual hobby plant.

Any light that is used to grow herbs/tomatoes should work. I have https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Indoor-Growing/dp/B00XC3LBI2/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1509648710&sr=1-1&keywords=mars+hydro&dpID=51clUyqI-5L&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch and the only issue I have is that it is too powerfull for the distance I have it from the refugium. Tends to bleach out the chaeto if it stops tumbling.

I was actually looking at that one, but decided that this one may get the job done:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XC3LBI2/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_JH6mxbCS3KW90

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XC3LBI2/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apap_7X8nkSqIfHKIE

Mars 300 watt, I have three in a 8x4' tent, they work great.

MarsHydro 300W LED Grow Light Full Spectrum for Hydroponic Indoor Plants Growing Veg and Flower https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XC3LBI2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_iLJ0AbBVH7VYV

Mars Hydro 300, it's the standard intro LED and very cost effective. Lots of great grows posted here under those lights. Even if you upgrade to higher wattage, the little 120-130W "300W" panel will be excellent for the early stages of your plants.

You can also look into T5 fluorescent, which is what I use for veg but could be used for a small flowering setup. The best part about T5 is its extremely low heat output. You can grow the plants until they're touching the tubes practically. I would skip CFL, I feel it's a poor lighting solution that's a waste of money (up front and cost over life) in the light (heh) of high performing LED panels and inexpensive and more efficient T5 setups.

This is actually a grow light and it's cheaper with a few more watts. It also has some red spectrum.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XC3LBI2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_XfIgzbAKYXPV1

Edit: I see you already own it...it could help as supplemental lighting or as a veg light

Would a 300W light cover a 3x3x6 area?

More specifically, this one?

I have the 300w from this brand: https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Indoor-Growing/dp/B00XC3LBI2


I have definitely added the thermometer to my shopping list, thanks for your input, its greatly appreciated!

You could have one nice big light, or a couple of smaller ones. Depends on how long you are going to grow indoors, and your budget.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BFPBBD6 This fixture
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MXLSEJ8 with six of these, would result in 4800 lumens.


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0721TG86M here you have 5000 lumens


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XC3LBI2 you could do this one, but the light is terrible to live in.


https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/products/hlg-65 And this would be your best option. 10.000 lumens.


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One of these 300w Mars Hydro LEDs

https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Indoor-Growing/dp/B00XC3LBI2/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1535394543&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=mars+hydro+light&dpPl=1&dpID=51h3RDfhOxL&ref=plSrch

I found this on amazon and saw basically the whole review section saying it’s great to grow weed with, what do you think? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XC3LBI2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_6t10CbP5A8DGZ

Hey Guys.

As my first grow ever, I had 3 seedlings germinate after planting on April 5th into my AeroGarden 6. Here is a progress picture from about 3 days ago.

As you can see, my guy on the left is really taking off, but my other two have kind of stalled. Should I be worried about that?

I hear I can wait about another week until transplant. Would then be a good time to move them into 5 gallon pots? I am also laxing behind on my equipment. I’ve been scoping this tent and this light off of Amazon. Would you guys recommend? Any other recommendations for ventilation? Working a bit on a budget.

Also, I checked all 3 of them, and they have mainly just one long root as seen here. Should that be concerning?

Appreciate any info, and sorry for the noob questions. Happy growing!

There's more powerful models as well. I would suggest checking Craigslist as there are always growers getting rid of old equipment.


https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Spectrum-Certification-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B00XC3LBI2

Get a cheap 300W Mars Hydro. You'll spend more using CFL's anyway so might as well bite off on something like this.

Yea I think OP has 2 of these lights , looks like their true wattage is at 132W each

You got an ounce from a light that's meant for a 2x2 space? That's really good isn't it? I'm currently looking into possibly trying indoor for my first time and that lamp curently goes for less than $70 on Amazon.

> What kind of lights are you using?

Using a single Mars Hydro 300W (130-140w something real output).


> Are you using a part a-b?

This is the nutrient solution I am running, with a 3/2/4 N/P/K-split.

> or it has too high of a nitrogen concentration leading to ph lock.

Would it be better to use the HESI's hydro bloom nutrients I've already bought that has a 3/4/5 N/P/K split then throughout both vegetative and flowering phase?

if you buy this light HERE if will keep all of the plants happy, even the wee weedle

This 300W MarsHydro LED is still on sale for $89.99 with Amazon Prime, I got on and it's bright as hell, definitely check it out.

I don't have a light meter, but they have the specs listed in the product description: https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Indoor-Growing/dp/B00XC3LBI2/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=mars+hydro+300&qid=1574474853&sr=8-4

Oh, don't like Ebay? Here's amazon for a dollar more..

This is the Mars I have: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XC3LBI2/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_8xonybVH6YN72

I havent changed my light setup at all, I just pulled the plant out into the sun for the shot real quick.

I would still go with a 300 watt UFO led. They are probably the most efficient because all of it is contained in one unit including a heat fan. It also has a limited scalability if you ever wanted to increase your grow size.
https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Mars300-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B00XC3LBI2/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1478898642&sr=8-6&keywords=300+watt+led
The above LED is full spectrum so you do not need to switch out the light during flower. There are other LEDs in that price range that have dual mode which means you flip a switch when you are in flower and it changes spectrum.

How much distance should I put between my succulents and this lamp?

Edit: not for overwintering.

I have two of these
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PH1MQV8?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
and one of the Mars
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XC3LBI2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage

the first one - galaxy hydro - is much purpler .
All three are in a small area - about 5 feet by 3 feet
I have 3 plants in there and they are doing great.
My total wattage consumed by the fans and lights is under 500w so obviously the advertised wattage is not accurate (3x300"watt" leds producing under 500watts?)
however they are SUPER bright and the leaves are deep dark green.

I bought this one and I have read that I can get 2 ounces or so from it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00XC3LBI2/ref=sxts1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482451342&sr=1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65

You think 2 of the 300w Mars Hydro would do?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XC3LBI2?keywords=Mars%20Hydro%20300%20Led%20Grow%20Light&qid=1454015388&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

It's under one of these: http://amzn.com/B00XC3LBI2

I had it about 12" above, had put it a little closer, but then moved it back up after a day or so (when I started trying to save it). If it's light bleaching, would increasing the distance from the light save it or would it be too late for a seedling this small?

I helped set up a grow with an LED light. The light itself was about $150-$200 but it's perfect for veg and flowering. I would recommend going that route since it helps with the heat and electricity.

This is the light. 600w equivalent only using 300w. It's full spectrum and the light is actually a really intense violet color, its pretty badass. The person growing says their electricity has only gone up by about $30 (.12c/kWh or so)

MarsHydro Mars300 Mars600 Led Grpow Light(Mars600 with Veg/Bloom Spectrum for Hydroponic Indoor Greenhouse/Garden Plant Growing, 272W True Watt Panel) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XC3LBIW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_KvovxbYQTRKNV

Sorry for the link formatting, on mobile. I highly recommend the light though. It has had plenty of power for the three plants that they have in about the same footage as your grow.

DIY are superior, as you can get the exact nm frequencies you like, but if you aren't handy with electronics you can run the risk of fire or simply blowing money on a dud product. You can get 600w leds for 150 now on amazon, and they work really well.

https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Mars600-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B00XC3LBIW

Good luck, and keep the sub updated!

its a marketing ploy really, they say its to increase the longevity of the light boards themselves but who knows. https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Updated-Spectrum-Certificate-Hydroponic/dp/B00XC3LBIW

if this is the same light or similar then you can read on the page that it actually only pulls 132 watts +- 10%

" ENERGY-SAVING: Consuming only 132watt±10% with the same effect of typical 150W hps or HID grow lights. "

its a common mistake you shouldn't really worry about it, just know that most people recommend anywhere from 30-50 watts of actual true wattage per sqft of tent, and in your case you only have about just a little over 15.

Again only saying mars hydro 600w gives it a bit of leniency but the best 600w blurple led ive seen maxes out at like 180 watts which could work but you would probably see a massive improvement if you added some more light in there.

If your light isnt a blurple then i could be totally off.

Thanks! Im going to get some today.
The light im using is a Marshydro 600W LED (275W true output). I got it for $140 from the Marshydro store on ebay!

http://www.ebay.com/usr/marshydro?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2754

https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Mars600-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B00XC3LBIW/ref=pd_sim_86_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=P6JXBRPZQ6WV5ANKFJA2

I really like the light because I feel it has good penetration, it does not produce a lot of heat, and it is easy of my electric bill haha. I have not experienced a single problem with it!

Thanks for the info, I'm not sure on the version, https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Mars600-Spectrum-Certificate-Hydroponic/dp/B00XC3LBIW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486758106&sr=8-1&keywords=mars+hydro+600w
whatever that one is?

I thought aiming for around 50 watts per sq ft was best to aim for. Have you any idea how much difference there could be to the plants in the two different spaces (~71W per sq ft in the 2x2 to ~31W in the 3x3)?

Which one of these would work for the tent in my OP and 4 plants? Or would I need an HPS?

https://www.amazon.com/Double-Specturm-Greenhouse-Flowering-Growing/dp/B01JLKUA2W/ref=pd_sim_86_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=MK1MKFVY1BY0RPG81WB3

https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Mars600-Spectrum-Certificate-Hydroponic/dp/B00XC3LBIW/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1487102778&sr=1-1&keywords=mars+hydro+600w

Thanks for the suggestion. It looks like the mars 600 is a little cheaper than 2 mars 300s. Any reason I should buy one over the other?
https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Mars600-Spectrum-Certificate-Hydroponic/dp/B00XC3LBIW/ref=sr_1_2?srs=10776211011&ie=UTF8&qid=1482214894&sr=8-2

I was thinking 4ft would be too big inside as well, so cloning definitely seems like the way to go. I was thinking of using this light since it seems to have good reviews and isn't super expensive.
https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Spectrum-Certificate-Hydroponic-Growing/dp/B00XC3LBIW?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-d-20&linkCode=x

Indeed you can keep auto flowering plants small, but you can actually do that with any plant. Look up sea of green or screen of green methods to run small plants effectively. But can't stress this enough, I don't recommend autos, and if you're beginning with clones it's doubtful anyone has auto clones. Autos by nature are tough to clone, as the clones almost immediately begin to flower and don't have time to grow out as they would if they had been from seeds.

The tent method is great for beginners, but will run a bit more than $100. In total you would need a tent, LED light, inline fan, pots, soil, nutes, bamboo stalks, garden twine, PH testing kit, carbon filter, hanging clips, trimmers, drying rack, mason jars, and 62% boveda packs. If you search craigslist you can probably find a bunch of people selling their used gear. With a 2 x 4 tent you could yield 8 ounces or more, although it's more likely that you'll harvest 3-4 ounces your first go. A 4 x 4 tent would allow you lots of room and twice the yield.

Also in regards to LED's, be mindful of how many square feet you're trying to cover. I've got a few different LED's in my gardens, as well as MH/HPS lights. Many of the LED's claim to be full spectrum, and while that may be true, they vary quite a bit in terms of what they mean by that. I've got ones that are blueish white, blue, purple, more red, and one that has a switch from veg to flower. Out of all of them I really like my Mars Hydro , although I will say it does run very blue. Despite the dominantly blue spectrum, it's produced buds comparable to a 600w HPS, but with significantly more frost.

Thank you!
This is the light used.

And this is the soil

BESTVA 1000W LED Grow Light Full... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01871AHTC?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

BLOOMSPECT 1200W LED Grow Light: Full Spectrum for Indoor Hydroponics Greenhouse Plants Veg and Bloom (120pcs 10W LEDs) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JZ52D82/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_rXT2vYA1jdd5S

Those are the links I don’t really know how to calculate true wattage, but if you do by all means thank you, but from what I said yes that’s the wattage but please let me know if it’s not regardless adding more lighting was very necessary for me since I was repeatedly told my tent was under lit.

The tent is going to be in a closet though, so I'm worried about airflow.

Also, seeing as I haven't bought everything yet, there seems to be a well rated 1000W LED Grow light that seems much better for the same price. It has better effective wattage, less heat, and draws less power. Any criticisms on that?

I've decided on doing this 4-way LST technique if that makes any difference with lighting, as I do know that LED grow lights need to be further away, especially one so bright.

One more thing that I can't find the answer to, how do you control the grow lights? Do people just unplug them manually when they go 12/12? Because I can't find anything when I google "grow light controller".

Thanks so much for your help so far!

I'm new here with the same tent size and (almost) the same LED:
BESTVA 1000W LED Grow Light Full Spectrum Dual-Chip Growing Lamp for Hydroponic Indoor Plants Veg and Flower https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01871AHTC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_vstOBbVD3FJSZ

I need LED because my house gets super hot in the summer (115F outside) with A/C running full blast to keep the house cool.

Did you decide on a different light setup? Now I'm wondering if I should send mine back, or just get another one. Or supplement with some of the LED bulbs. Lighting has been the most difficult thing for me to figure out. Everything I've read on this brand has gotten good reviews from growers.

iPower 600 Watt HPS MH Digital Dimmable Grow Light System Kits Air Cooled Reflector Hood Set https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005GYRZV2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_VMnElrNdwb561
2x BESTVA 1000W LED Grow Light Full... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01871AHTC?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

I could honestly use 1 more 600 hps light to get the most out of my area. I can dedicate an entire room, so I have veggie companions.

As for the trichs, you'll want to measure calyxes on your mature buds (the one you pic'd).
You already have a good amount of amber, so if the rest are milky you'd want to harvest.

BESTVA 1000W LED Grow Light Full Spectrum Dual-Chip

Just fair warning, it’s not 1000w and eats a lot of electricity to run it. Fortunately I don’t pay electric because my building is fully solar. It’s a consideration. Some of the vets here can give you some better options probably.

I've been using this in a 2x4x6' tent. I do have a concern it's too much. The light is 3+ feet from the plants. Is this light too much for this size tent? And does this have light good for the flowering stage?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01871AHTC/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Thanks.

I’m using this one from amazon. It’s my first grow with it. I had been using compact CFLs in the past. I started the plants in the pic on my old CFL light rig and then transitioned them to the LED once they were a little bigger. I tried a few seedlings under it before these plants and they were fried and dead in days. Not sure if that was the lights fault or if I was pretty rusty from not growing for a little over a year.

I have 1000w Bestva LED lights that will be the lights for after this stage. Just not sure when they need this much light and I don't want to harm the little guys.

Here is a link to the lights:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01871AHTC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Thanks.

70 bucks

https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Upgrade-Developed-Spectrum-Generation/dp/B01HI3AFYM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485293514&sr=8-1&keywords=roleadro+300

looks like this one https://www.amazon.com/Panel-Light-System-Spectrum-Replace/dp/B00RZ78ISM

1 bad review, one guy doesn't know that all lights have about half advertised wattage.

meh. it's a gamble on reliability. some people who know more about LEDs than i do, apparently, talk shit about these "blurple" lights, in favor of full-spectrum. basically the cree bulb with the highest model number is near the best you can get. i'm still digesting this stuff myself. efficiency, higher lumens per watt is what you get in the good ones.

I'm not an expert, but you're asking me, the lights i wish i got were two https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Greenhouse-Germinating-Flowering-Generation/dp/B01IVQ96WW key words being full spectrum cob. It comes with the Cree CXA3070 which is the chips hobbyists on /r/microgrowery used in their own builds a year ago. They've moved on to better cob chips, but a cutting edge light for 2015 can't be that bad.

I got one of these https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Plant-Light-Spectrum-Generation/dp/B01HI3AFYM along with a mars 600 and the roleadro isn't bad for a $70 light, it may not be worth the cob premium for all i know. Three of those may do you.

I'm not sure if this is the exact one, but it looks like it.

I miss all that free porch sunlight from my parent's home! And almost all my plants were pretty traumatized by my move a couple years ago. I ended up losing only one, but most of the other ones lost about half their mass? At an estimate.

Right now I have one big box of leds (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HI3AFYM/). The roots are looking good right now, though I'm a bit disturbed by just how many are in the air, all sticking out the same direction. It looks pretty funny.

Roleadro Upgrade and Newly Developed LED Grow Light Full Spectrum 2nd Generation Series 300w Plants Light https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HI3AFYM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_Lgya4SMIBgkRz)

I was messing with my phones camera mode because normally there is this annoying yellow tint that happens. I was trying to adjust it away with pro mode but I feel like it came out worse. I posted another link to normal pics in the comments in here already

Its a single Viparspectra 300. I know some folks are saying it's underpowered and slightly the wrong spectrum. That may be true, but this is my first grow so I'm going to gauge performance after the harvest and make changes if the harvest is unsatisfactory to me. I would rather not have too many variables to consider at once. I am strongly considering another 300w light to match this one OR switching to using the Roleadro Grow Light

Two of these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HI3AFYM/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2L94QV6P0R9ON

or two of these, they have little lenses to help cast the light since LEDs don't spread well.
https://www.amazon.com/HIGROW-Optical-Spectrum-Greenhouse-Hydroponic/dp/B01HYUQ9QC/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1497292285&sr=1-1&keywords=higrow

Return it. The single bulb ones don't really have much spread to them, even if wattage is ok. I've had good luck with square panel
LED grow lights (about 45w but works), but better are the 122+w (true watts used not "equivalent watts listed so these are sometimes sold as 300w) full spectrum LED (yellow light) like this one: https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Generation-Spectrum-Greenhouse-Hydroponics/dp/B01HI3AFYM?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_4

I would recommend the Roleadro 300w 2nd gen LED light. No blurpleness (which is why I got it), it's a decent light for about $70 on amazon. I'm only using about half of my 4x2x5 (LxWxH) tent, so I would get two if you'll be using your entire tent.

It's my first growing season with it so I can't comment on its long-term reliability but so far it's been great (I.e., decent build quality, no burnt LEDs). Heat hasn't been an issue and inside of my tent, it hasn't been too loud.

It does have its downfalls though. One is the hanging hardware it comes with is pretty cheap and doesn't adjust so you'll need to figure that out. Also, there isn't an on/off switch or the ability to daisy chain lights, which many of the other brands have.

However, for $70 it's a decent budget light.

Roleadro Upgrade and Newly Developed LED Grow Light Full Spectrum 2nd Generation Series 300w Plants Light https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HI3AFYM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_SQU7ybW3KAC37

why not just a roleadro 300w watt LED or something if you're just going to go with a veg light for starting seeds + vegging. I assume you'll be moving your plants outside in a few months? A lot of people on here seem to be liking the roleadro lights over the mars hydro lights due to each LED being a little more full spectrum compared to the bluish purple hue of the 1st gen mars 300's.

As for the light I switched to, I saved up for a CMH setup because it was Ideal for my situation and I wanted to get good lights in the meantime until I start messing around with COB LED's. Kinda pricey, but my buddies also grow and would be interested in taking that light off me secondhand once I get my COB's built down the line.

I don't the like the old Mars. The spectrum seems to cause malnutrition problems.

I have this roleadro. But, I'm not using it yet:
https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Plant-Light-Spectrum-Generation/dp/B01HI3AFYM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1481776296&sr=8-2&keywords=roleadro

My other COB light that I'm running now:
https://www.amazon.com/CrxSunny-Specturm-Hydropnic-Greenhouse-Growing/dp/B01N9A82RV/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481776381&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=crx+sunny+1000


I'm using the CRX for my veg plants and they're growing fast. I can see it after a few hours. I'm impressed so far. I like it because it has UV and more middle colors.

The roleardo uses epistar lamp beads that are supposed to have the same spectrum as the CXA 3070.

My mars had 10 lamp beads burn out. I had take it apart and solder new beads on. It's kind of a pain. COB's are easy to swap in comparison.

Plan right now is 2-3 plant Scrog garden with 2-3 Roleadro 300watt white panels.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HI3AFYM/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_iDwvyb78F4P77


Really appreciate the help everyone.

Also looking at a Roleadro 300w (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HI3AFYM/?th=1). I guess my question also comes down to whether I need one or two of these. I heard the 50w/sq.ft measure, which 300watts ideally covers; but I've also heard that you should cover the ceiling of your tent to get the proper coverage, but these panels are pretty small compared to the tent (which is also pretty small).

Hmm I didn't know that. Is there anywhere to see the exact spectrum? Maybe getting one Vivaspectra and one Roleando would be good? I know the vivaspectra is pretty heavy on blue.

Though, I'd probably get this with it instead. No idea how much blue on it.

https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Plant-Light-Spectrum-Generation/dp/B01HI3AFYM/ref=pd_sim_86_4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=TBK7CNPT5CSW80M76H1C

I've seen a lot of people recommending this one https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Upgrade-Developed-Spectrum-Generation/dp/B01HI3AFYM/ref=sr_1_2?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1483212103&sr=1-2&keywords=Roleadro

on here, is that for all stages of growth and the one you linked just for flowering or something?

honestly pay a few bucks more for a higher watt growlight, as remember the cheap growlights (all of them) are only about 1/2 or 1/3rd of what they are rated as. for instannce

https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Plant-Light-Spectrum-Generation/dp/B01HI3AFYM
or https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Hydroponic-Efficiency-Indoor-Greenhouse/dp/B00RWQ4B50/

should be MUCH better light vs what you got, this is something i really wish i knew before i got my first ufo

I would suggest looking into F series LED strips from Samsung, instead of more panels. Like this one that I just built for my 2x3 cabinet. For a little over $100 this light puts out over 15000 lumens at 90W - compare that to 5000 lumens from this typical 300W panel which is the exact same light I was using before I put the new light in there.

Ah. Yeah some more light would be good.

If you wanna go cheap I suggest this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01HI3AFYM/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1495216723&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=roleadro&dpPl=1&dpID=41cuDRJr-NL&ref=plSrch

If you wanna go more expensive/DIY build a small COB fixture.

The LED I am using was recommended on this sub:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HI3AFYM/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2L94QV6P0R9ON

Pulling up the fan now

My bad. I got that one on Amazon. I'm not really sure how that one compares in strength to the T5s, but I'm inclined to say it's weaker. I still think "a few feet" would be a stretch for a Cattleya light. I think the product listing on Amazon has some information along those lines.

I like this one... my plants do too. Roleadro

VIVOSUN 48"x24"x60" and 2 x Roleadro 300w LED Grow Light Full Spectrum Light Fixture

I am doing more of a DWC setup. The tubs are 15 Gal with 2 x airstones and the 5Gal buckets get 1 airstone each.

I see, can you recommend me the bare minimum of all the things I need to do and buy to grow just 1 plant in my balcony as a test experiment. The only thing I know so far is making sure to get the water between 5.5 and 7.5 pH but other than that I'm lost. Can I use this light in my balcony for 1 plant https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IVQ96KY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Xu54AbBQSNHZ4 ?? What nutrients do u recommend and how do I do it?

I noticed much more growth and sun coloration for a while after getting the light, but now for the last month or two, all of that is going away. This is the grow light I bought, I’ve had it for just about a year now.

I got 3 of these a month ago. Good so far but someone please tell me if I chose poorly and why.

Roleadro Panel Grow Light Series,45W LED Plant Grow Light with Red Blue Spectrum for Growing&Flowering https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IVQ96KY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_OzYfAbD2Y360Q

Your grow lights are the emitting the right frequencies, but they are far too weak. Your plants are stretching out as a result. You want something more powerful like this:

Roleadro LED Grow Light, 75W Grow Light for Indoor Plants Full Spectrum Plant Light for Seedling, Hydroponic, Greenhouse, Succulents, Flower https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IVQ96KY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_EHJIDb2QA12DE

I keep my grow light 1.5 feet away from my plants, and they seem to be happy with the setup.

Edit: sent the wrong link

>If your house is 77F, but your water is 93F, something is wrong. The water should be at ambient temperature, which in your case seems to be 93F. Do you have a lot of hot lights right up against the plants with no fan? If so, fix your lights.

This is from the default Aerogarden Bounty LED setup - I bought two of them - both have consistent (high) water temps. The issue it seems is that while germinating and while the plants are youn, the black deck that the water runs directly under is 100% exposed to the lights - I think a combination of that along with the 10" height of the 45w lights during the germination & young plant phase is causing the 16F difference - in the bounty growing the basil, where they shade the deck the water temp is only 8-10F higher...still 87F seems too high for basil so I add ice to that one as well... I brought up my observations to Aerogarden who said just to add ice cubes (my thinking plants dont like sudden temp changes), but that seems to work ok....but seems ridiculous I would need to add 10-12oz of ice twice a day just to bring it down to 70F for a a few hours.. (the ice I add now, is solution I had to remove from the bowl to make room for the ice)

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Since it seems my issue is that the room already starts kinda warm, the LED lighting (along with a black deck with water running across it) is the culprit of the high water temps?

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In my planned Kratky/DWC setup - should start off with?:

- White Lid/Deck

- fan/forced air blowing on each deck

- 3w or smaller light source when germinating

- moving up to a 10w when young

- moving to a 25w+ when the leaves are covering the deck 90%+?

-- Beyond, moving the lights up and down - is there any other way to keep them from warming things up too much - do they make lights with adjustable intensity?

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>Don't use pure blue LEDs, you want either whites or red/blue. something like these: https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse-Succulents/dp/B01IVQ96KY/ref=sr_1_5

If I were going with just greens, Blue is best?

Yeah that was my first thought but I'd rather conserve space if possible, [here] (https://www.amazon.com/Docooler-Ultra-quiet-DC12V-Brushless-Submersible/dp/B00JWJIC0K/ref=pd_nav_hcs_bia_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=YSKNJPEGXGP15Q1N1XJM) is the pump I am using and here is the light. Do you have a converter in mind I could look into?

This is the grow light: https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Panel-Spectrum-Growing-Flowering/dp/B01IVQ96KY/ref=sr_1_8?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1512481070&sr=1-8&keywords=grow+lights

As for natural light, it doesn't get any due to the dorm I'm currently in. This grow light set up is pretty much the only way they can get the required light without etiolating to shit in the windowsill.

To build on my previous answer: Does this only really pertain to the high intensity grow lights? Because the one I was thinking of getting was this one https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Panel-Spectrum-Growing-Flowering/dp/B01IVQ96KY Which seems to have an actual output of 25 or so watts. So if I hung this on a shelf, and looked the plants on it, would it direct the harmful frequencies onto my eyes, or would it be absorbed into the chlorophyll mostly?

i don't have that grow light, but i do have some of these


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IVQ96KY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


my succs love em, it'll take a while to see how the cacti will feel but i don't foresee any problems

I started with a south facing window, but it wasn't quite enough in winter. Eventually I bought this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IVQ96KY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It covered about 6 plants until the one bell pepper plant decided it was the alpha and would overgrow.

This has worked nicely for my jade plant. It's not super heavy-duty, but it runs cool, and could easily be mounted under some cabinets.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IVQ96KY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This is the best one I’ve had! It was recommended by a friend and provides great light! https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01IVQ96KY?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

This is awesome. I'm about to get a pilea peperomioides. I think I'll try and grow it first with window light - and then with any babies I'll try using artificial light. I was thinking of this light - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IVQ96KY/. Not sure if it would be overkill...

How is this one?https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IVQ96KY/ref=s9_acsd_hps_bw_c_x_2_r

I have two of these mounted side by side -- they don't spread a whole bunch, and are maybe 12" above my plants: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IVQ96KY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I don't think they'd grow much more than a phal, though I do have a suburst under them right now that's doing okay, and as you can see in the picture a rogue aloe :-) I really want to build a shelf that is 3 or 4 tiers with each having its own light to keep at home, but I haven't gotten that far. They get just a little warm, but not hot. Just be considerate of that depending where you plan to put them.

Or should I go for "600w" https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IVQ96MW/?th=1

Looking to keep it around (or ideally under) $150, and want something quality that I can daisy chain later.

https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Upgrade-Developed-Spectrum-Generation/dp/B01IVQ96MW/

I have two of these and I am extremely happy with them. One of the few brands that carry white LEDs.

Roleadro LED Grow Light, 1200W 2nd Generation Plant Light Full Spectrum for Indoor Greenhouse Hydroponic Plants Veg and Flower https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IVQ96MW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_8bqjDb2MM8P40

This is the light I was looking at, supposed to output 250 Watts.

I’m down for getting a QB, I just wanna find one that would give me the same output for the same money

That would work, although for the same price as two of those you could get Roleandro 2nd Gen 600 watt ~250 watt actual draw

I think the Roleadro would be better.

I use a 400w HPS ($140 on Amazon and 2 of the cheapest Chinese "1000w" grow lights like [this one](https://www.amazon.com/Thermometer-Humidity-Adjustable-Spectrum-Consumption/dp/B07BV3KQMM/ (Link is just an example, I'm not recommending that product) that I can find in my 5x5 tent.

I haven't done any clinical study or anything, but they seem to perform better than the Mars Epistar (IIRC, not 100% sure what model I had. It was 3 years old when it was killed) I had before a direct lightning strike at my house murdered it last year. I'm sure I'm paying a few cents an hour extra as the Chinese lights are likely far less efficient, but for a personal grow tent, they're fine.

If LED tech ever stabilizes, I'll definitely go for a more efficient, expensive light again. But currently, a new $70 chinese light is often about as good as a $700 light was 3 or 4 years ago, so it's not worth it for me in my personal grows as I'll never get a return on my investment before the tech evolves again.

That said, since you're starting from the beginning, I'd take /u/iShatterBladderz's suggestion and get a quantum board from Kingbrite if you have the means to do so. As long as you aren't a moron like I was and include a good surge protector in your setup, it'll likely be a better investment in the long run.

Well a gift card u just scratch off and put in the code.. I could give scratch it off and give you the code myself.. But I mean I'm sorry I don't mean to insult.. I'm just not very patient lol.. And have like no experience with reddit either..
Now I came across this fairly cheap LED light... Will this work?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FGFW0XO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1412955760&sr=8-1#

And also I heard the wattage per sq foot is different depending on what kind of light.. Is that true? And it doesn't matter how many plants, just sq ft? And how far away do I out them from the plant?
And what do u mean by extraction and a filter exactly?

watts don't apply to LEDs in the same way as cfls or HPS/MH. and these are reflector series which are different than regular LEDS. companies have come out with newer reflector series recently.
for example with mars hydro
they have regular

and new reflector series

wattage is lower but they are more powerful or the same power while using less energy, check the ratings on both. they direct the light more intensely with the reflectors.

i have 2 viparspectra 450 watt reflector series and they work great for my 4x2x5 tent.
and 2 smaller lights are generally easier than one big one. more evenly distribute the light to your girls

when I upgrade should I go for a 300w or the 600w?

600w hps with a fan and filter. you're going to want a fan and filter regardless of the lights you use, and the 600 hps will beat those two panels at a fraction of the cost. just duct the exhausted air out of a window and you won't be running much hotter than the leds.
if you're dead-set on led, look into cobs or go with a couple cheaper panels imo. maybe a couple of these. the ones you linked are really expensive and aren't going to be enough light for that 4x4 tent.

Sorry, I didn't mean that brand wasn't important. I meant I'm not brand biased and open to any suggestions. But yes, I'll share with you the links to the lights I was considering.


SpaceTote2 Lights:

Philzon 600w LED Grow Light

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0752CL6KJ/ref=emc_b_5_i?th=1

VIPARSPECTRA Timer Control PAR600T 600W LED Grow Light
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RTG4H1J/ref=cm_sw_r_fm_taa_eagCDb5MWT707


5x5 Grow Tent:
-Was going to buy

Phlizon 1200w Grow Light

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07527N1F7/ref=emc_b_5_i

-Interested in buying now

Phlizon 1800w LED Grow Light

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075SRR8ZD/ref=emc_b_5_i?th=1


VIPARSPECTRA 1350W LED Grow Light

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078B4VJ35/ref=twister_B07N66DGXN?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

VIPARSPECTRA Dimmable Series PAR1200 1200W LED Grow Light - 2 Dimmers
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N7CEW5Q/ref=cm_sw_r_fm_taa_-9fCDbVAK62AB

King Plus 1500W Double Chips LED Grow Light
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LZ8C34S/ref=cm_sw_r_fm_taa_9NfCDb5APW8K3

King Plus 2000W Double Chips LED Grow Light
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MY27Q9H/ref=cm_sw_r_fm_taa_aOfCDbCPXWYN8

I will have one 5x5 with either setup mentioned above and two space totes using a 600w led light each. I'm trying to use all of the same brand equipment to limit the amount of manufacturers to keep up with and monitor warranties with. Any suggestions, experiences and advice welcome.

Maybe a few of these?

https://www.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-High-Efficiency-Upgraded/dp/B076QDKVDZ/