(Part 2) Best plant growing light fixtures according to redditors

*Except for the mint plant - mint made it in there because the windowsill for herbs is full.

EDIT: Per request, here is the whole collection.

EDIT #2: This is the book I ordered to learn how to care for succulents: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0848749472/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_s4dFgKYV5Jbb1
This is the grow light I bought to help them thrive: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01E9IO770ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_owIchtK8pcOZ7

I don't see a link in your comment but I found your other post where you did comment it, here it is for others!
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01E9IO770/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_zLHrB3ypynqba

If anyone is interested, here is the grow light I decided on: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007FGE6C0

First grow.

This took 2-3 months. Seems like I ran into a number of first-timer pitfalls along the way. Good learning experience though.

Can't wait. So god damn tired of shady, undependable hook ups.


Edit 2:

Photos of my setup.

• http://i.imgur.com/fc8wn1B.jpg
  
• http://i.imgur.com/HmUWGgR.jpg
  
• http://i.imgur.com/nOcwlPm.png
  
  
  
  Edit 1:
  
  Some have asked about my setup. This is about everything. This is my first grow so take my suggestions with a cup of salt but this stuff has worked well for me.
  
  Tent:
  
  Zero complains. Very happy with this. It just fits perfectly into a closet (had to remove the hanger bar though).
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004U6WCMY
  
  
  Air
  
  
  
  Carbon filter:
  
  The inside of my tent stinks. I smell absolutely nothing outside. Don't get caught. Get a good carbon filter. Maybe not this one, but something.
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004FVJK60
  
  
  Inline fan:
  
  I hand this outside the tent. No need to take up any space or add any heat inside the tent.
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002JQ14F8
  
  
  Variable xformer for fan control:
  
  This allows me to control the noise and airflow. Every other fan controller made the fan buzz. This thing is quality built. I keep it around 50v.
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006NGI8VS
  
  
  Circulation fans:
  
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004RTMD8C
  
  
  DWC
  
  
  
  
  Bucket top net pots:
  
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0049XIIGC
  
  
  Air pump:
  
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002JPEVMC
  
  
  Airline:
  
  The black just prevents light from getting into my res.
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001D4XTUU
  
  
  Air stones:
  
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0050HJ7Q6
  
  
  Check valves:
  
  You NEED these. Many airlines are thin enough that if the power goes out or a hose becomes disconnected, capillary action might permit water to back-flow into your electrical air pump and/or just flood your room. Don't take chances when a .50 cent valve will protect you. There are some horror stories in the aquarium hobby about this. Note, even if the air pump is higher than your res, capillary action can pull the water up through the air hose. This is the same principle that allows 100ft trees carry water from the roots to the canopy.
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00977J508
  
  
  Lighting
  
  
  
  Lights:
  
  Word of warning. Start off a good distance between the lights and your canopy. These product more light than you think and I have burned and cooked plants from keeping these too close. They don't product a ton of heat or anything. I think it's just too much light if they aren't a good foot or so away from the canopy. I assumed I could practically lay LEDs on top of my canopy. Not so.
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FGFLCXS
  
  
  Adjustable ropes for lights:
  
  Chains work, these are just faster/easier to adjust.
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0098R0600
  
  
  Tools
  
  
  
  Temp/humidity sensors:
  
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013BKDO8
  
  
  pH pen:
  
  I used to do chemical reagent tests (I have tons of aquariums so I had it laying around). Never again. A pen is fucking awesome for dialing in pH every morning. Get one!
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EQISYQO
  
  
  Pruning snips:
  
  These are great. Sharp as fuck and solid.
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004SD76
  
  
  Training wire:
  
  What I use for my scrog screen and early training before the screen goes in. Also good for random shit that's temporary enough I don't want to waste a zip tie.
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001EXJ652
  
  
  Nutes/Water changes
  
  
  
  
  Pond pump:
  
  This is another must have! I've been using these for a while now to handle water changes in my aquariums. It's also awesome for mixing nutes before they go into your DWC. I drop one in a bucket without a hose attached and then just dump all my nutes and such in. The pump does all the mixing. Then I adjust the pH a little. Give the pump about 10-20 seconds to mix my pH up or down in and test again. I don't have to worry my pH adjustment isn't probably mixed yet. I makes the mixing process so easy and fast. I also use these to pump out my res once the scrog screen is in place.
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006M6MSL0
  
  
  Root protectant:
  
  One of my early problems was with brown algae. This cleared it right up after a week.
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IGFH3FG
  
  
  Syringes:
  
  No guess work. I know exactly how many ml I'm adding.
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000RB3CV6
  
  
  Cal-mag:
  
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000J2CUPW
  
  pH control:
  
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BNKWZY
  
  
  Nutes:
  
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000COBT54
  
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CO7U02
  
  
  
  
  

Not enough light for the size of the tent on any of those kits, you're better off getting tent and light by separate, get a 70x70cm tent and this light or this one, it'll be the best bang for your buck, you'll need to spend a lot more for top quality LEDs but these are good enough.

Lastly here's the Mars website but with a better option if you still I want to go that way for some reason, it's cheaper than your links like u/quadragintaduo mentions, https://mars-hydro.com/grow-kit/mars-reflector-96-70x70x160cm-grow-tent-usa.html

If you can't hang lights from the ceiling I think this is a good option especially if you have a lot of plants. I found it through this post

Think of these buckets as a template, every grower solves problems differently and that is why you won't find two identical setups. That creative freedom is part of the beauty of the space bucket experience :D

It is really a simple design, you can build one with little effort. I don't know what your budget is, but if you get a UFO LED light you just need to put it on a lid and add some PC fans on the side. If you go the CFL route you can get something like this 4-way adapter that is very easy to install and comes already wired with a plug (and a fuse actually). You'll need to do some benchmarking and debugging but those parts have been bucket-tested and will make your build easier.

we're software engineers / growers of pilea + succulents. have tested most of the LED lights on the market. most aren't great - main stat to check with lights is photosynthetic active radiation (PAR) - i.e. how many photons emitted in the spectra where the plant can consume it for photosynthesis. we've tested many lights with PAR sensors to validate quality; good value for money is galaxyhydro: https://www.amazon.com/Galaxyhydro-Spectrum-Indoor-Greenhouse-Plants/dp/B00INM0DSG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1506741458&sr=8-2&keywords=galaxyhydro. many have purple light because chlorophyll is most efficient in blue & red spectra of light though some research supports whiter light. If light held >12" away from the plant, the heat shouldn't be a problem. hope info is helpful - absolutely love science of growing so happy to chat much more on subject :)

Welcome to growing weed. It's the very best hobby in the world. The light that you bought will get you through your first month or two of growth, but you're going to need to upgrade before you switch to flower if you want to grow dense, potent bud. A 600 watt HPS/MH like this is your least expensive option that will max out that 4x4 with light and keep it warm too. You can put your oil filled radiator directly in the tent to keep it warm at night. Don't let your temps inside the tent drop below 65F if you can avoid it. Good luck! I hope your first harvest is dank and delicious.

VIVOSUN 48"x24"x60" Mylar Hydroponic Grow Tent with Observation Window and Floor Tray for Indoor Plant Growing 2'x4' https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DXYMQ9M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_dx13BbGGT8164

VIPARSPECTRA Reflector-Series 300W LED Grow Light Full Spectrum for Indoor Plants Veg and Flower https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B4GQ6MO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Hz13BbPVVN2TK

This light is good for 2 plants but you’ll eventually want to add a second for your tent. You definitely can’t fill the tent with just this light, but it’ll get you started.

iPower 2-Pack 1/8 Inch 8-Feet Long Adjustable Heavy Duty Rope Clip Hanger, Reinforced Metal Internal Gears,150lb Capacity https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018WIOEDA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_wA13Bb58ZJ5GD

Century 7 Day Heavy Duty Digital Programmable Timer - Dual Outlet (Indoor) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MVF16JG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_XA13Bb9NQJDG1

Comfort Zone CZ6C 6-Inch 2-Speed Clip-On Fan (White, 2 Fans) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JLUZSPC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_.E13Bb05JK7B1

247Garden 5-Pack 3 Gallon Grow Bags/Aeration Fabric Pots w/Handles (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013JM3JAI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_VG13Bb7MGJS2R

https://www.oregonsonly.com/samples/

These are great nutrients and basically foolproof. This free sample kit will get you through 4 plants full grows. I love these nutrients and even now use them in a reservoir (which people claim you can’t do but works great).

Dr.meter 0.1pH PH002 High Accuracy pH Meter/pH Pen Tester with ATC LCD 0-14 pH Measurement Range (PH002 pH Meter for Water) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PU0W35K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_fI13BbNRES1BK

That will get you started on your first grow or two. I recommend auto blue mystic from nirvana for your first run. They are very low smell while growing so you can get by without a carbon filter. They’re autos so you can leave the light on 24/7, and they finish fast. Also turns out a great finished product.

https://www.nirvanashop.com/marijuana-seeds/815-blue-mystic-autoflower.html

Less than $40 for 5 seeds and very discrete shipping.

When you have a bit more $ you can add on additional items. Eventually you’ll want to upgrade to PFD sun boards or quantum boards, but you’ll probably want to get a fan and filter first:

6" Inline Fan - 395 CFM Exhaust Duct Fan, Built-In Speed Controller, ETL Listed, Pre-Wired 6 FT Grounded Cord - Great Use In Grow Tent With Carbon Filters, Light Fixtures, Intake. Fits 6 Inch Ducts. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01L0D0UEQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_TM13Bb5170NC1

Activated Charcoal Carbon Filter 6" x 16", Up to 400 CFM, Premium Grow Tent Odor Scrubber, 1.8" Extra Thick Layer of Top Grade Activated Australian Virgin Charcoal-Great for Hydroponics and Growing https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M0VN4I5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_qN13BbEH9AG9W

Maybe you can upgrade to a 2x4 tray with reservoir so you can automate feeding.

If you don’t want autoflowers you can just do 12/12 from seed for faster harvest. https://www.royalqueenseeds.com/blog-how-to-grow-cannabis-from-seed-under-12-12-lighting-n330

But I really recommend doing the auto blue mystic for your first round or two.

You can get adjustable rope hangers from amazon so you can continue to adjust the height. Will be a lot easier than chains. I’ll edit with the link.
Link : iPower 2-Pack 1/8 Inch 8-Feet Long Adjustable Heavy Duty Rope Clip Hanger, Reinforced Metal Internal Gears,150lb Capacity https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018WIOEDA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_BuNUAbA3Z4RHS

You don't need to spend anywhere near that. Just look for some 6500k compact florescent bulbs and use any desk or clamp lamp. That should be fine for the amount of plants you have. Just keep it about 6 inches from them.

If you want to go bigger you could invest in an overhead T5 fixture like this and spend 70ish.

I just set up my overwintering corner in my kitchen under some cabinets. I got the LED light panel off of Amazon and used hooks to put them under the cabinet. I have a curtain I can put around the whole thing so the light isn’t so obtrusive. I have another set of lights in a window set to a timer for when the sun shines and they can shut off. I just set up the kitchen corner one two days ago so you’ll see that some plants were starting to stretch.

In my experience fox farm happy frog and ocean forest soil don't need anything added until week 3-4. That's about when the bottom leaves become N deficient. Maybe pick up the trio of fox farm nutes. Add in these adjustable ratchet light hangers too.

https://www.amazon.com/iPower-8-Feet-Adjustable-Hanger-Capacity/dp/B005CY100I

The 300w would probably be enough light, if not you can always daisy chain another 300w. Two 300w lights are cheaper than the one 600w and would be easier to adjust the lights to the canopy.

I'm bad with electrical things, maybe someone else can chime in on that. I just use those 6 inch clip on fans.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00INM0DSG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1

What do you think?

Edit: Thank you!

I use something like this to rachet my grain bag up, and it's super easy. Only really works if you have something to hook it up to; I use a rafter above my brewing area.

As the plants grow you may want to use something like this to easily adjust the lights. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005CY100I/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_78?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AXC6VLRHTOFD2

Try to get them in a south facing window if you can. If you do not have that, west, then east, then north. North is the worst, and you will want to avoid that if possible because they will never get direct sunlight in a north window.

The window will be the biggest difference because you can't beat the sun in terms of light.

Once they are in a good window, get a light above them if they are still stretching. I try to get daylight spectrum flourescent bulbs in as high of a wattage as I can find. 6500k, 100watt equivalent florescents do great for plants. You might find a T5 HO setup that uses the long skinny flourescent bulbs. I prefer the T5 setup because it is brighter and cleaner looking in my house than a bunch of metal cone reflectors for standard light bulbs.

Put the lights on a timer so that they are on for about the same amount of time that the sun is up. Adjust the timer once a month or so to match the changing daylight hours. Mid summer the light should be on ~16 hours a day, and mid winter just under 12 hours a day. You want to do this because plants are sensitive to seasonal day length, and will grow, flower, or be dormant depending on the amount of light they receive per day.

I like to put lights about 2 feet above plants so that I can still see the plants instead of the light fixture.

I avoid LED lights because I find the purple glow to be ugly.

Depending on the setup, I find ~25 watts of supplemental light per square foot to be adequate, but it's really hard to say how much light actually makes it on the plants...

I have a 330 watt fluorescent light about 2.5ft above a 12 square foot table in a shady west window. A ton of the fluorescent light spreads out to the sides, so it's hard to say how much light I actually supplement. The plants do fine, though.

I use this

50 seedlings shouldn't be overwhelming. You can use a typical T5 or T8 fixture with the right bulbs.

[This should do the trick.] (http://www.amazon.com/DL822-Fluorescent-Hydroponic-Fixture-System/dp/B009GU4QPU)
Comes with the right bulbs.
Just invest in some cord to adjust the height, those lights must stay as close as possible to your plants.

If that won't ship to Oz, any hardware/garage type store will have them.

I'd recommend a T5 setup, but others may have better suggestions.

I started describing myself in the "Meet your /r/GrowTents mods!" post (quoted below), so I'll build off that :)

> After moving to a legal state in the Summer/Fall of 2015, /u/Ser_NSFW started growing indoors using SpaceBuckets and enjoyed it so much that grow tents were the next logical step. /u/Ser_NSFW has picked up a ton of helpful information and is usually willing to help out individuals via PM with any marijuana/growing related questions. /u/Ser_NSFW created this sub after finding no other grow tent related subreddits.

I'm low-key and usually good-natured, spending most of my days at home/school and hanging out with roomies. I'm a computer science student and recently applied at a local garden supply store to learn more about gardening and available products, as well as to help others figure out what gear will work best for them, so I'm excited to start working in my new home state! I've made a few casual acquaintances but no real friends yet (apart from roomies, I mean), so my time mostly goes to maintaining my plants and doing productive stuff like cooking pot roasts and batches of chili, or knitting. I play the drums and enjoy the outdoors, and trivia is always a riot after a couple beers :)

I really like the idea of growing all-natural marijuana - that is, healthy soil and plain water, with as little extra nutes as possible - so I'm excited for warmer temps that allow outdoor growing! In the meantime, I'm getting an Apollo grow tent (36"x20"x62") and an LEC light with my tax return. You read that right, "LEC" (Light Emitting Ceramic), apparently it's a new light technology that's equally or more powerful than equivalent HPS lights and generates relatively low amounts of heat, reducing or outright eliminating the need for extra vent fans! I'm excited to give it a shot, since my 132W LED panels have proven to be a tad underpowered when used alone. If all goes well, I'll have a 315W LEC light and two 132W LED lights in a single grow tent, if possible!

I've started using a locally-made soil and nutrient line called Nectar For The Gods that has proven extremely worthwhile, it blows Fox Farms out of the water from what I've seen so far. No major pH issues, no nutrient lockouts/deficiencies (except a tiny bit of what appears to be Magnesium deficiency, which I've been countering with regular nutrients successfully), overall I'm very happy after making the switch. I forgot to mention that while a 12 qt bag of Happy Frog soil costs ~$14 on Amazon, I can get a larger bag (maybe 20 qts, not sure) of Nectar For The Gods soil for the same price, maybe a dollar cheaper!

I'm looking forward to becoming a true grow tent user, and I'm eager to learn and share as much info as I can with the rest of you fine folks!

Going to piggyback my own question on here.
3x Roleadro LED Grow Light Full Spectrum 400w vs 2x Roleadro LED Full Spectrum 600w White 9-band LED
The cob option should be better, right?

I can't find the apollo light fixtures on amazon currently but this one is similar. Chalk it up to Amazon.ca being hit and miss with supplies/prices sometimes but the apollo's should reappear in the future. These would work in a 2x2 - 3x3 tent with up to 4 medium sized, trained plants. The smaller the tent, the warmer it'll be.

I'm actually buying this one: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B00P8PDDEM/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1527083256&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=600w+hps&dpPl=1&dpID=51YcFgJYsLL&ref=plSrch

I'm trying to reach out to the company to get disscounts with coupon codes for this subreddit for people like me who
start growing indoor.

I have something like this:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T0CPI6A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_iclxCb9Z5QT33

Seedlings need light that is close and strong, otherwise they will become “leggy”, which basically means they are stretching towards light. If they become too leggy, they will be weak and probably non-viable.

Anything like these will work real nice

When I switched mine over to artificial light, I did two hours for the first few days, then five hours for a week and then 8 hours every other day.

I also use [these.] ( https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019J3UPUS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_afMBDbNJK9NQE). I guess what I'm trying to say is, you're not over complicating it. I think we just care a lot. 👍

I actually didn't tally up the cost as that wasn't really of a concern to me, but I'll try my best to provide links to the things I bought for this. Feel free to add it up for me!

• Lighting
  
  • T-5 Grow light (came with 6500K bulbs)
    
  • 2700K bulbs
    
  • Grow light hangers
    
• Grow medium
  
  • Net Cups
    
  • Black Buckets
    
  • Black lids
    
• Nutrients
  
  • General Hydroponics Flora Series
    
  • General Hydroponics pH control kit
    
  • pH/EC/Temp Meters
    
• Grow tent
  
• Air ventilation
  
  • The only thing I ended up using from this kit was the cheapest part, the ventilation duct...
    
  • The fan from this kit is way too powerful for my setup because my humidifier couldn't keep up
    
  • I didn't use the carbon filter because I'm not growing weed.
    
• Water Distiller
  
• Humidifier
  
  • The cheaper the humidifier, the better. I first bought (and destroyed) one that had some sort of digital switch, so it would always be in the off state when you first supply power to it, meaning you can't turn it on/off with just a relay.
    
• Plumbing
  
  • Aquatec 8852 booster pump
    
  • 2 Gallon accumulator tank
    
  • Pressure relief valve
    
  • Tubing
    
  • Inline Pre-filter (Sorry they must have taken the product down...)
    
  • Misting nozzle T's
    
  • Tube ball valves
    
  • Analog pressure gauge
    
  • Misting Nozzles
    
    • Note that these nozzles are meant for WAY higher pressure systems (~1000psi) and I actually had to take out the spring for them to operate correctly, but they never clogged up, are easy to clean, and worked perfectly for me!
      
• Electronics
  
  • Raspberry Pi 3 kit
    
  • Humidity sensor
    
  • Pressure sensor
    
  • Water solenoid valve
    
  • 5V 4-channel relay module
    
  • Analog-to-digital converter
    
  • 24V to 12V converter
    
  • 24V Power supply
    
  • Resistor kit
    
  • Semiconductor kit
    
  • Circuit boards
    
  • Standoffs
    
• Wiring
  
  • 22 gauge stranded wire
    
  • 22 gauge solid wire
    
  • Power supply cord
    
• Connectors
  
  • Electronic Connectors
    
    • JST-XHP Connectors
      
    • JST-SM Connectors
      
    • Dupont Connectors
      
  • Plumbing Connectors
    
    • Bulkhead connectors
      
    • Quick-connect kit
      
    • NPT to quick-connect connector
      
      I also bought various tools, like crimpers, Dremel kit, drill, etc, but I don't consider those to be project-specific as I'll have them for the foreseeable future. Let me know if there's anything you see that you think I missed!
      

Unless you are going to buy several, its not big enough for more than 1 or 2, much less your entire collection of 10-12.
If yours are larger plants, and/or you think you'll be getting more, I would make sure to get one thats larger. I started with a 2-bulb T5 setup, below, but moved to a 4-bulb LED encasement, using the stand from the first one to hang it.
Whatever you choose, there are inexpensive options out there, so don't feel like you have to pay for over-priced LEDs panels, unless of course you don't mind it.

Grow Light Stand Rack for Seed Starting Plant Growing, 6400K https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01E9IO770/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_jC1PDbEXD451B

I just bought this:

iPower 54W 4 Feet 2-Bulbs T5 Grow Light System with Stand Rack for Plant Growing, 6400K https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01E9IO770/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_dGcSzbK0SMPNH

Another Reddit user on here recommended it. I can't remember which post it was under though. I got the 4ft one with two bulbs for $66.

I also have two of these which seems to work well too. I think it brings out the stress coloring in my plants

TaoTronics Led Grow lights Bulb , Grow Lights for Indoor Plants, Grow Lamp for Hydroponics Greenhouse Organic, Plant Lights ( E26 12w 3 Bands) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GNWK2XO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_xIcSzbZDK1MDN

A couple more pictures: https://imgur.com/gallery/8u01A

• Strain(s): Fire OG (Dispensary Bagseed)
  
  
• Grow medium: Attempting 1st No-Till Cycle with my own blend of Black Gold products such as, Earthorm Castings, Garden Compost, Regular Potting Soil WITHOUT 'Slow Release Fertilizers', & Perlite.
  
  
• Light size & type: Generic 130 Actual Watt LED: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MPY7YC2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_BnXOzb741TEFQ
  
  
• Pot size & type: 5Gal Smart Pot
  
  
• Nutrient type and schedule: None
  
  
• Watering schedule and pH: Dechlorinated Tap Water ph'd between 6.5-6.8 about every 4-5 days
  
  Sprouted July 16th. Currently by herself in a 2x2x5 tent. Temps stay between 75-77F. RH 40-55%.
  
  She's entering her first week of flower & no signs of any hairs or balls yet. Fingers crossed, because she grows like a beast. 🙏🏽
  
  

Thats just a bulb. You need the whole setup.
http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GLK600CT24E-Digital-Dimmable/dp/B00521B894/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1457634882&sr=8-1&keywords=600+watt+cool+tube

I use something like this for my bow/stern lines. Mine look about the same but less shitty that those. I think mine were like $20 for the pair. The B/S lines are just to prevent the yak from being able to shift around, I like to set mine to pull at an angle, the front rope pulling to the passenger side and the rear to the drivers.

I looked up the Malone Wings and it looks like they have cam-lock straps, not ratcheting straps. I don't like cams for anything and strongly prefer a quality ratcheting strap. You have to be careful as a good strap will have enough strength to damage some yaks but it's very simple to get them set correctly.

Hi - it looks good to be honest. Depending on what you will be growing, and from what stage you will be growing (ie. seeds vs seedlings vs mature plants) you will want to be able to move the lights closer to the plants, since T8 bulbs are not particularly strong.


Instead of those pink strings, look into something like these from amazon:


https://www.amazon.com/iPower-GLROPE-Adjustable-Improved-Resistant/dp/B005CY100I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496247379&sr=8-1&keywords=ratchet+light+hanger


That way you can easily adjust the level the lights hang at.


The lights really don't generate much heat, so it's not going to light your wall on fire. If you want to increase efficiency of the light, you could put something reflective on the wall. The previous poster is correct in that it would be a bit more effective if it was sitting centered over your plants instead of against the wall.

HPS/MH - Cheap, good yield, Electricity$$$, Heat, need vented hood ideally, electronic ballast are ofter power adjustable, regular magnetic ballast are last long and are reliable.

best source in canada : amazon, your hydro store, a few hydro online store.

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,Quantum board: Expensive, good yield, about half wattage usage as a hps for same efficiency, not much heat, diy to save money, Chinese (alibababa) alternative is half the price, Not much complaint anywhere from ppl using chinese qb

550w HLG : around 1400$ .... 550w alibaba around 550$ all in

best source in canada: HLG Canada, sometimes amazon.ca, alibaba to get same parts as hlg from supplier directly.

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Cheap led (blurple) (purple light you see in some pics): older technology, probably does an ok job but not sure its worth it for the money, but they are very cheap but don't output wattage advertised. ok as first buget grow but there is better options for not much more money

best source in canada : Amazon, ebay, aliexpress etc

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T5 (and cfl i guess) : great for clones, seedlings and veg but not convinced yet they are better and cheaper than going the chinese quantum board way. big and a bit bulky. Perfect for seedling and cloner,

easily find it anywhere. Amazon, hardware store, hydro store.

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CMH : have no info

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with everything running and around 1700w of light electric bill can be a bitch...

so going with qb led is a good way of keeping long term cost down and pay for itself fast.

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Get 1 room for flowering, one for Veg+clones. harvest every 60days

-I would go with T5 for seedlings

https://www.amazon.ca/SunBlaster-0900302-Nanotech-Reflector-Medium/dp/B0748CH4B9/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1549218126&sr=8-10&keywords=t5+24

https://www.amazon.ca/DL822-Fluorescent-Hydroponic-Fixture-System/dp/B009GU4QPU/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1549218196&sr=8-9&keywords=t5+fixture

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-small quantum board for veg 135w or 240w (id get the alibaba version via King Brite supplier)

this is for 3x3

https://www.horticulturelightinggroup.ca/collections/all/products/135w-led-board-kit

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For flowering , 320w or 550w qb led, HLG if money is no problem, Alibaba if on a budget. the 320 is equivalent to a 600w hps and the 550w a 1000w. Or 600w HPS is always a good option in my opinion.

https://www.horticulturelightinggroup.ca/collections/all/products/320w-xl-qb-v2-led-kit

https://www.horticulturelightinggroup.ca/collections/all/products/hlg-550

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This one may have a little better reflector but not sure it's worth the extra $10 for 3 of them: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DuroLux-DL822N-2Ft-2Lamps-T5-Grow-Lights-with-5000-Lumens-and-6500K-Sunlight-/162270037390?hash=item25c80c458e:g:lcwAAOSweXhXmJDS

Or this is same model with better reflector (like some of my DL824 fixtures) but again unless you could find same price I don't know it's worth it. https://www.amazon.com/DL822-Fluorescent-Hydroponic-Fixture-System/dp/B009GU4QPU/ref=pd_sbs_86_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=MJQ4MX9GP4X70A81JSKC

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009GU4QPU/ref=ya_aw_oh_bia_dp?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I really like this one! I thought the price was ok and it was easy to set up. They sell different sizes too!

So I suppose that depends in your definition of best. This light off amazon is $120 - but 600 watts of hps. The "300 watt" cheap blurple lights are usually around 100-150 watts and about the same efficiency; meaning the 600 hps should yeild 4x the amount of the blurple.

That really helps, thanks. I want to do my girls proud when the time comes.

I looked at the sidebar on MicroGrowery and saw the brand recommendation is iPower for HPS. I have these choices available to me.

iPower GLSETX600DHMAC6 600W Light Digital Dimmable System for Plants-Air Cooled Hood Set

iPower GLSETX600DHMWING20T 600W Light Digital Dimmable HPS MH Grow Light Ballast System for Plant with Wing Set

iPower GLSETX600DHMCT6 600W Light Digital Dimmable HPS MH Grow Light System for Plants-Cool Tube Set

iPower GLSETX600DHAC6 Digital Dimmable HPS Grow Light System for Plants with Air Cooled Hood Set, 600W

iPower GLSETX600DHCT6 Digital Dimmable HPS Grow Light System for Plants with Cool Tube Set, 600W

Which do you think would be the best for the 47x47 area?

And I will follow your advice about getting the inline fan with carbon filter.

For a 4x4? No way man... that will barely veg 1/4 of the tent. You want something like

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CQ8ROYO/ref=nav_timeline_asin?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

at minimum.

Check out

https://www.growweedeasy.com/cannabis-grow-lights

iPower 600 Watt HPS MH Digital Dimmable Grow Light System Kits Wing Reflector Set with Timer https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CQ8ROYO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Xy6QDbJXSBWGP

This one is similar to The one I have, they put off a lot of heat so in the garage or something like that works best. T5 fluorescent lighting works good indoors and doesn’t put off nearly as much heat. T5 uses a lot less power too.

Sorry I'm Canadian , used to our measurements. It's 5 gallons* (~20L) I will be using this light for my grow. Are you sure that fan is okay? The other guy seemed so sure .
Light: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FGFLCXS/ref=aw_wl_ov_dp_1_4?colid=2XHLEJUA6N9AQ&coliid=I31FONFY14DPK

here it is on amazon if you'd like to see

http://www.amazon.com/Sun-System-Emitting-Ceramic-Fixture/dp/B00HBCV8TM

Look into LEC lighting, it puts off less heat and hits plants with UVA and UVB it is supposed to be very close to the suns spectrum I think.

https://www.amazon.com/Sun-System-Emitting-Ceramic-Fixture/dp/B00HBCV8TM/ref=pd_ybh_a_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=PN4SM4QPQ8V1AQ89P8H5

Your list looks fine. These suggestions are based on personal experience:

• If you have space, consider a larger tent. I bought a 4x4 a couple years ago and have wished I went with 5x5 ever since. Not to grow more plants, but to have more room to work and place things like fans.
  
  
• I used FFOF and the FF trio for my first two grows and then switched to NFTG soil and nutes. The nute line is a little more costly, but I've had much better results since ditching FF. NFTG will send you a free sample kit of their nutes which should get you through a grow or two. Their nutes are fully organic and not salt based like FF
  
  
• I have not been very happy with my 'blurple' marshydro LED. I bought it for my veg tent, but a T5 has worked much better. If I were to go back and buy one light, it would probably be a CMH. (Budget, High End). If you are handy, DIY COB is a great option as well.
  
  What is the ambient temp where you will be growing? Relative Humidity? An AC unit and/or dehumidifier may be necessary. Better to get them from the start and not run into heat/humidity issues than to purchase them after problems appear.
  
  If you have a local grow store, I'd stop there before ordering anything. They may have everything you need and are a great source of information as well.

haha you just saved me a mistake
so i changed it to -
which is cheaper -
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HBCV8TM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2CXIDXPR1SRQR&psc=1

VIVOSUN Hydroponic 400 Watt HPS MH Grow Light Bulb Digital Dimmable Ballast Wing Reflector Set https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00P8PDBY4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_8CR3Cb3C0CMZ3

Canadian?

https://www.amazon.ca/VIVOSUN-Hydroponic-Digital-Dimmable-Reflector/dp/B00P8PDDEM/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?keywords=vivosun+hps&qid=1559237532&s=gateway&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1

Im in the US, but I bought the 2' version of this as my first grow light and so far so good https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T0CPI6A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_x7bbzbMVPDGYX

Make sure whatever light you buy goes to 6500k light temp, that is the same brightness as regular sunlight. I also suggest investing in a timer for the light of you don't already have one!

For this grow box I would contact the seller and ask about it as I can't find any information on the light itself. As an example,https://www.amazon.com/VIPARSPECTRA-V1200-Spectrum-Indoor-Plants/dp/B00UORXUBA?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_4. This light is advertised as as 1200w light because it supposedly produces the equivalent light of a 1200w HPS, but if you scroll down you'll see that is actually has a Avg. Power Draw of 520W±3%, that's how much true wattage is being consumed.

I was considering this 1200W LED
https://smile.amazon.com/VIPARSPECTRA-Spectrum-Indoor-Plants-Flower/dp/B00UORXUBA/ref=sr_1_16?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1498707934&sr=1-16&keywords=Led+Grow+Light

What is your grow space?
The LED market is flooded with low quality grow lights, they are usually recognizable by the fact that they lie and give way higher wattages than they actually provide.
For example the 'VIPARSPECTRA 1200W' actually consumes only 524w.
HPS or CMH lamps will outperform these lights at comparable wattages.
There are high quality LED lights which are capable of outperforming HPS and CMH at comparable wattages.
High quality LED > HPS/CMH > cheap Amazon LED lights.
There are some manufacturers like 'Pacific Light Concepts', 'Horticulture Lighting Group' and 'Timber Grow Light' who offer high quality LED fixtures for a reasonable price ($1.25/w-$1.50/w) based on white LED.
Companies like 'ChilLED Tech' offer even more expensive builds which are more sophisticated with modified spectra, network control etc.
These are more in the ~$2.00/w range.
Most of the higher quality light meet high safety standards like IP65 up to IP67 ratings. These are especially interesting for commercial grower who are regulated and insured.
Depending on your craftsmanship, you can also build high quality lights on your own and reduce the price to about $1.00/w.

Try these boss.

iPower GLROPEX2 2-Pair 1/8 Inch 8-Feet Long Heavy Duty Adjustable Rope Clip Hanger (150lbs Weight Capacity) Reinforced Metal, 2 Pack, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018WIOEDA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_VmLlDbMHB1X7C

Go buy a 4x4 tent, ideally gorilla but can get cheaper.

https://growershouse.com/gorilla-grow-tent-4-x-4?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=1o1&scid=scplp6055&sc_intid=6055&gsacid=952890155&keyword=&gclid=Cj0KCQiAw4jvBRCJARIsAHYewPMdnaA3pI_kaqr7hDDtRfQzZ5-nIJ_myYwy_RzlSfPlTYAKJuHyn5MaAotOEALw_wcB#!

Order the light


https://growershouse.com/horticulture-lighting-group-hlg-600w-qb288-v2-r-spec-led-kit?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=1o2&scid=scplp15744&sc_intid=15744&gsacid=952890155&keyword=&gclid=Cj0KCQiAw4jvBRCJARIsAHYewPMp8yJqTkQMEmC5Db2_3fMT73eIoyEVEXZMPbEIJIB_wpvPAEW537saAsyFEALw_wcB

Inline fan


AC Infinity CLOUDLINE T6, Quiet 6" Inline Duct Fan with Temperature Humidity Controller - Ventilation Exhaust Fan for Heating Cooling Booster, Grow Tents, Hydroponics https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074XBXFPD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_LMT4Db95YN9QZ

Carbon filter


VIVOSUN 6 Inch Air Carbon Filter Odor Control with Australia Virgin Charcoal for Inline Fan, Grow Tent Odor Scrubber, Pre-Filter Included, Reversible Flange 6"x 18" https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01731MLFK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_HNT4Db23PB3M8

Flex duct

VIVOSUN 6 Inch 25 Feet Non-Insulated Flex Air Aluminum Ducting for HVAC Ventilation w/Two 6 Inch Stainless Steel Clamps https://www.amazon.com/dp/B010UCCMW6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_yPT4DbNQFABKE

Fan


SPT Wall Mount 16" Fan with Remote Control https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071Y8CN45/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_oQT4DbV2ANXJG

Temp/hygrometer

AcuRite 00613 Indoor Thermometer & Hygrometer with Humidity Gauge, 3" H x 2.5" W x 1.3" D https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0013BKDO8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_xRT4Db8N3X0K6

Rope hanger

iPower GLROPEX2 2-Pair 1/8 Inch 8-Feet Long Heavy Duty Adjustable Rope Clip Hanger (150lbs Weight Capacity) Reinforced Metal, 2 Pack, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018WIOEDA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_iST4DbF0EQJAK

Light timer

BN-LINK 7 Day Outdoor Heavy Duty Digital Programmable Timer BND/U78, 125VAC, 60Hz, Dual Outlet, Weatherproof, Heavy Duty, Accurate For Lamps Ponds Christmas Lights 1875W 1/2HP ETL Listed https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G9RK4VV/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_wWT4Db5Q74NPA

PH meter

Digital PH Meter, PH Meter 0.01 PH High Accuracy Water Quality Tester with 0-14 PH Measurement Range for Household Drinking, Pool and Aquarium Water PH Tester Design with ATC (2020-Yellow) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08197LX6H/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_TXT4DbZ8TF1W

Tower of Power

Hydrofarm TMTOP6 Tower of Power https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001WAL58I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_f1T4Db88GD2GE

Loupe

VIVOSUN 30X 60X Illuminated Jewelers Loupe Foldable Magnifier with LED Light for Jewelry Gems Watches Coins Stamps Antiques Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VK1LVKX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_62T4DbR2KDDY4

Measuring cups.

Garden Smart Measuring Glass (1, 1 ounce) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073C6S1LS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_o5T4DbQFTS4FY


Fox Run Brands 4892COM 4-Ounce Mini Measuring Glass, Regular, Clear https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000N4CQWI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_95T4DbTWPWNMP


Get some short heavy gauge cords

Still haven’t said what medium, so I can’t recommend anything there for nutes or pots. Since your new, I’d consider soil and airpots.

You’ve got lots to learn, buy the grow encyclopedia.

The Cannabis Encyclopedia: The Definitive Guide to Cultivation & Consumption of Medical Marijuana https://www.amazon.com/dp/1878823345/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_9RIDjvgDjnPoc

I’m sure I forgot something, it’s off the top of my head, you’ll always be running and picking up a trinket or two. That said, this will get you far down the path.

Need to decide medium and I can help point you towards genetics. Probably clones to start off.

These are the ones I currently have for my 4x4 that work well https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HEYCRI8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1.

Within the next month i think i'll be binging on these https://www.amazon.com/HydroplanetTM-Fluorescent-Included-Horticulture-Gardening/dp/B019J3UPUS/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1487146972&sr=1-1&keywords=t5

Proper trimming and branch management...grow it upwards not outwards

Look into a DWC bucket system, they make 5 gal bucket lids that are hydroponic planters...Found on Amazon. Some even have a built in tomato / pepper cage that's about 3 ft tall.


Just need a power source for an aquarium air/bubble pump and some sun or T5 lamps. Even an Apt balcony works

As far as lights go, I have seen amazing results with these while growing coral (Aquarium). For 130 bucks an 8 lamp t5 High Output fixture that has a broad color range is a steal


here's a link to the overall DWC system (Deep Water Culture)

LINK

I have these hanging from above, and these where I need something freestanding.

... My previous comment was actually kinda sarcastic. You see, these provide white light, which includes all (visible) colors.

• Soil Medium:
  Fox Farm -Happy Frog
  
• Lights
  3*45 watt 6-band LED grow lights
  
• Strain
  Mendo Breath clones
  11-14 weeks old
  
• Pot size
  10 gallons
  
• Nutrients added (once):
  Mykos - Mycorrhizal inoculant - ½ cup
  Bone Meal (1-12-0) - 10 tsp
  Blood meal (12-0-0) - 10 tsp
  Kelp meal (1-0.1-2) - 10 tsp
  Mocha bat guano (4-6-1) - 10 tsp
  DE -added to the surface once, no pests so far
  Watered with humic acid once
  Regularly water with 1 tsp unsulphured molasses per every 2 liters
  
• I really want to decide when I should induce flowering. Was thinking about moving 1 or 2 outdoors. The plants have purple stems, I think from a number of causes like nutrient burn and being in such tiny containers. Any advice or opinions are welcome. Thanks!
  

As someone who's considered this before, here's what I'd generally plan for:

Get a square light like this.

Work the top shelf to be on top of the lights with a slot for the light to slide into.

Look at the light distribution from the top down. Maybe it's just using that light on the top shelf, having high-light plants directly beneath, and low light plants on the second row beneath. This could be better done if the first shelf is made of acrylic or glass.

Adjust accordingly. Like I said, I've never actually done this. Set up in a window you might have plenty of light without a grow light at all, or maybe you even need an array on each shelf! It would be easier to tell by the plants as well. An Echeveria would like being directly below that array, but a Haworthia or Kalanchoe might like a degree of separation.


Hope I was of some help! Always here if you have other questions!

I bought this one and it came with a free 20w bulb as well. I currently use both of them.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MPY7YC2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_HO1IAbWMPFXD2

Plant LED Grow Light Full Spectrum 300W, Reflector LED Grow Lamp with Heatproof Casing, for Greenhouse Hydroponic Indoor Plant Growth by Lightimetunnel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MPY7YC2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_XG0IAbPYVTFB0

It's a combination of red and blue. And I actually checked Amazon after I posted that comment and it's back in stock currently. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MPY7YC2?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

I have two of these - Lightimetunnel LED Grow Light Full Spectrum 300W, Reflector LED Plant Growing Light with Heatproof Casing, for Greenhouse Hydroponic Indoor Plant Growth https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MPY7YC2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_kQ.JBbSCHR45H

They were cheaper than that at the time

I am in chicago, my windows are just in a lot of shade and its tough to get direct light. but yes they are incredible.

i have a few of these on an ikea shelf that i have up against a big window and everything has gotten far more stressed and fat

https://smile.amazon.com/2-Pack-Grow-Light-Fluorescent-Hydroponic/dp/B06XPKQPSL/ref=sr_1_9?crid=WY0M9PSX830D&keywords=2ft+grow+light&qid=1564499918&s=lawn-garden&sprefix=2ft+grow+%2Clawngarden%2C138&sr=1-9

Heyo! I’m in the Northeast as well. My house also gets the worst natural light. I have been eyeing one of these T5 mini hoods from Home Depot and setting up a table in our spare room. I’ve also seen some similar T5 light set-ups that daisy chain, but I honestly haven’t decided yet.

If you look on Amazon there are LOTS AND LOTS of grow lights. I have bought several. I have had good luck with the LED grow lights. They are more energy efficient and the plants seem to do well. If you get some just make sure they are FULL SPECTRUM.


You can also get flourescent T5 grow lights. They do fine but just use more energy. They also tend to run hotter so be aware of how close they are to your plants so they don't burn.
Here's some links to check out.


2-Pack T5 HO Grow Light - 1 Bulb Light System - Fluorescent Hydroponic Indoor Fixture Bloom Veg Daisy Chain with Bulbs (2 Foot & w/Reflector (DL8021R 2pack), Cool White | Vegetative) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XPKQPSL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_AH8ZCbAC10EX4


Winjoy Grow Light, 30W LED Grow Lamp Bulbs Plant Lights Full Spectrum, Auto ON & Off with 3/6/12H Timer 5 Dimmable Levels Clip-On Desk Grow Lamp for Indoor Plants https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JLJFWNY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_vI8ZCbNC3C5D4


JCBritw LED Grow Light for Indoor Plants Full Spectrum UV Red Blue 100W Pro B Plant Grow Lamp Panel Bulbs Greenhouse Hydroponic Hanging Kit for Seedlings,Veg and Flower https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GWTT39T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_XI8ZCb2E7EYCN

Look at the specs of the light. You need 6500k for color temperature and at least 2000 lumens. You can use any light it doesn't have to say it's a grow light. Bulbs can works but will probably need a deflector to focus the light on the plants.

Here's some i can recommend:

Bulbs 1

bulbs 2

LED light

4 foot long lights

2 foot long lights

another 2ft-er

If I had 1 or 2 beginner tips for you it’d be to pop your seeds with rockwool if you decide to grow in coco or soil. Also, if using led’s I’d highly recommend a cob setup over the more common “blurple” led’s. Growing cannabis is a science basically. You’re not gonna learn the entire process of how to grow top shelf cannabis from a reddit thread, but it does come in handy for specifics.

A couple starter lights I’d recommend

https://www.amazon.com/Niello-Spectrum-Dissipation-Hydroponics-Greenhouse/dp/B07H3WPVL6/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?keywords=led+cob+grow+light&qid=1557443369&s=gateway&sprefix=led+cob+&sr=8-6
Or
https://m.alibaba.com/product/60779137391/Meijiu-Big-discount-240w-Quantum-Board.html?s=p&spm=a2706.wap_new_search.1998817009.7.2a91284faAB2MK

I'm telling you, get the package with the cool tube or your tent is gonna get real hot

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00521B894/ref=twister_B01N30KRTU?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

get the one with the cool tube https://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GLK600CT24E-Digital-Dimmable/dp/B00521B894/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1494091901&sr=1-1&keywords=apollo+horticulture+cool+tube

> Or you could hop on Apollo Horticulture 600w air cooled digital MH/HPS ~200$ and get a higher yield than that

Yeah, price & yield are definitely factors.

On the Apollo, would you recommend the cool-tube model

• http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GLK600CT24E-Digital-Dimmable/dp/B00521B894/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1421257310&sr=8-3&keywords=Apollo+Horticulture+600w
  
  Or the standard air-cooled version:
  
  
• http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GLK600LS24-Digital-Dimmable/dp/B005ECZQTY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1421257559&sr=8-2&keywords=Apollo+Horticulture+600w
  
  Definitely worried about heat in the smaller tent.

So. I could put a cooling tube http://www.amazon.ca/Apollo-Horticulture-GLK600CT24E-Digital-Dimmable/dp/B00521B894/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1427552022&sr=8-3&keywords=600+watt+hps run it horizontally (front to back) with the booster fan only for the tube. Then run an actual fan http://www.amazon.ca/iPower-GLFANXINLINE4-Ducting-Hydroponics-Applications/dp/B0085GTELM/ref=sr_1_5?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1427552199&sr=1-5&keywords=fan with filter for smell venting? I want get away from building a glass enclosure for the light, hence the cooling tube or full hood, want.

This ones only $10 cheaper but I'd go with it over the other one.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00521B894/ref=pd_aw_sbs_2?pi=SS115

I just use rope with a double half hitch tied to the top bar of my tent. The knots aren't hard to loosen from the short end of the rope and stay tight enough from the long end with the light on it. You can also get these or something similar on amazon

iPower GLROPE Pair of 1/8 Inch Heavy Duty Adjustable Grow Light Rope Clip Hanger w/Improved Metal Internal Gears,8-Feet Long(LONGEST EVER),150lb Capacity,Fully Locking;Tear&Rust Resistant. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005CY100I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_Gf4.ybRFEZ0MA

i use these http://www.amazon.ca/iPower-GLROPE-Adjustable-Ratchet-Hanger/dp/B005CY100I for my fan and light. lets you raise or lower easily and holds up to 150 lbs.

I'm going to use some extra ratchet light hangers I've got laying around. They are the best thing ever.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005CY100I/

iPower 1000 Watt HPS MH Digital Dimmable Grow Light System Kits Air Cooled Reflector Hood Set https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005F6BI1Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_gjlRDb097ZG7E

iPower 1000 Watt HPS MH Digital Dimmable Grow Light System Kits Air Cooled Reflector Hood Set https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005F6BI1Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_.SXZDb07SC35G

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H9NGP8C/ref=sxr_rr_xsim_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=3008523062&pd_rd_wg=BM7WC&pf_rd_r=5HDHM2VT2EVTQEFVYJF6&pf_rd_s=desktop-rhs-carousels&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_i=B00H9NGP8C&pd_rd_w=NEcOL&pf_rd_i=viparspectra&pd_rd_r=2VKD5H21FZJT54C0E441&ie=UTF8&qid=1506618385&sr=2
tent, and here's one option for lights

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005F6BI1Y/ref=sxr_rr_xsim_1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=3008523062&pd_rd_wg=mNlFQ&pf_rd_r=KH87EFCSCK6R659Z5GK3&pf_rd_s=desktop-rhs-carousels&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_i=B005F6BI1Y&pd_rd_w=CB6PU&pf_rd_i=viparspectra&pd_rd_r=KE8ZKYHFPQTZVBYKG9F1&ie=UTF8&qid=1506619252&sr=1

Thx for replying :)

Is this what i'am looking for ? and is it decent quality ?

https://www.amazon.com/iPower-Digital-Dimmable-System-Reflector/dp/B005F6BI1Y/ref=sr_1_6?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1525986729&sr=1-6&keywords=Air+cooled+hood+set

Thx

Looks like I'll just keep the light at the very top since it's a 1000w https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005F6BI1Y/ref=ox_sc_act_image_12?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Thanks for that. I try and educate myself before bothering you good folks.

As for the 40,000 lux of this unit.
How does this unit compare to a 4ft 4 tube T5HO

I know lux isn’t a good measurement for light that plants use, I’m just wondering how this compares to this light

If energy cost savings is the only real factor that differs, I’ll go with the t5.

I have both an LED Ebb and Flow system running and i do basil, bib and Paris Island lettuce's in that system and i am growing some leafy salad bowl lettuce on a rack under T5 lights on the side of the room by just watering the flat each day. The T5's are legit and will indeed grow herbs and lettuce with ease but you want to keep the lights close so it may be best to do similar sized herbs under the T5 and like the above poster stated, the light penetration into tall plants may not be the greatest. Stuff like cilantro, perhaps a dwarf basil, dill, chives would grow like crazy under a well placed T5.

A good $250-$500 range LED is going to be stronger then a T5 and i am not suggesting a T5 is better then a real deal LED im just suggesting that a T5 is an easy entry option that will indeed work well.

Want my opinion? Start out by getting a light and a few 1020 flats, 2 sheets of grodan rockwool cubes 1.5" some nutes, ph stuff, tds pen and grow them for a bit outside a system and under lights by just watering the flats with the rockwool cubes each day. In like 3 weeks you can be using your new herbs to cook and its cheap to start out and could even move them into a system at a month or so into it if you wish to do so.

Here are the gold standard T5 lights below - both are gold standard hydroponic T5 lights widely used and time tested and are both great.

https://www.amazon.com/Hydrofarm-Agrobrite-FLT48-Fluorescent-System/dp/B005H1C7NA/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=t5%2Blights&qid=1569300542&s=gateway&sr=8-10&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007FGE6C0/ref=twister_B01N7P0ZSB?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

If you can make a teeny jump to just above $100 I really like this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Hydrofarm-FLP44-Agrobrite-Designer-Fixture/dp/B007FGE6C0/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1539273308&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=agrobrite+designer+t5&dpPl=1&dpID=41x5gViSbFL&ref=plSrch

That does look nice. I did consider Bright Agro's Farm Wall, but those things are insanely expensive and hard to find in Canada -- although they do kind of take care of all the filtration and structure as well. One downside though is that my room only gets sunlight in the AM, so I would have to put my lights up vertically, which ends up ruining the aesthetics anyway.

That's a good point about elevating the tank. I'm a tiny Japanese guy, so both physically and culturally, I'm used to things being closer to the ground. I actually wouldn't have very good access to the plants if I were to stack a grow bed above the height of the tank as it is now.

I have one fixture that holds four 4 foot T5s. Could eventually expand to a second one.

What would you suggest for solids filtration? It seems like a swirl/radial flow filter would be overkill for somethign like this.

100W per sq. foot is more than adequate but if you insist you should go with LED lights that have 3W per diode. The one you have listed is a cheap chinese one that drive the diodes at .062W per diode. For light penetration that is going to make a difference 3W per diode is advised but I think it would be better for you to just put T5 bulbs running horizontally. http://www.amazon.com/Light-DL822-Fluorescent-Hydroponic-System/dp/B009GU4QPU/ref=sr_1_14?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1371282871&sr=1-14&keywords=T5+2+foot

or

http://www.amazon.com/Sun-T5-Supreme-Fluorescent-21/dp/B004CMPHV4/ref=sr_1_24?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1371282871&sr=1-24&keywords=T5+2+foot

T5 HO Grow Light (2 FT 2 Lamps) DL822 Fluorescent Hydroponic Fixture Bloom Veg Grow Light System 6500k bulbs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009GU4QPU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_6ob.Bb5SQD0NB

This is what I have and I like it a lot. Might be over kill for what you need but will serve you well. I have never dealt with bulb grow lights so I can’t say much about them. I did have two led bulbs in my early days. One was 6500 k and the other was 4000 k if I remember correctly.

Also might want to try to Facebook cp community. It’s much more active.

Ekrof on the article you talk about UFO lights and you posted a link to an 'Apollo 180W' light. You also state that 135W lights are recommended, but when I go to the 135 Apollo light link on amazon there is a section where it says "Actual Power Draw: 90 Watts" Should we consider to choose the 135 watt light based on the "Actual Power Drawn" or the wattage that is advertised on the tittle of the product? For example

Was wondering what would be my best option.

Currently looking at this:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FGFLCXS/ref=pd_aw_sims_7?pi=SS115&simLd=1

Curious if this is my best option if trying to conserve energy and is this a good option for minimum heat.

Also took a glance at this:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0091HO0FY/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0091HO0FY&linkCode=as2&tag=spacbuck-20


Opinions?

Hmmm... I did not. Though, I thought it was typical to have 12 on, 12 off light cycles. Is that not correct? Should I just get one that is ideal for longer hours? Thanks for the help!

Edit: This looks like a better option, no?

The exact one i have
https://www.amazon.com/Sun-System-Emitting-Ceramic-Fixture/dp/B00HBCV8TM

Ok thanks bro. So is this in DWC?

My fault..
https://www.amazon.com/Sun-System-Emitting-Ceramic-Fixture/dp/B00HBCV8TM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482904300&sr=8-1&keywords=lec+315+grow+light

What's the advantage of COB vs individual? In Canada I can't seem to find the one you recommended with 5w bulbs. That makes a difference?

Here the 3w blurple ones are availab. 300w $140 each, 600w is $300 and the 400w COB is $180.

Is it light burn? I moved my lights closer for a few days to see if it would do better and i noticed the tips of most of the plants yellowed a bit so i moved the light back up. This is after another week of growth.



Liberty Haze Strain

Grown in 5 gal of FFoF + Perlite


Alternating watering with plain water and water + nutrients, using a General Hydroponics Flora Grow, Bloom, Micro, CaliMagic mix


Light is a https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00INM0DSG

kept about 2ft above the plants.


They're kept in a closet http://imgur.com/a/M9cju

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00INM0DSG/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
They're in a small 10oz cup so usually water about 3-4 tbsp of water each time. Do you think that's too much or too frequent? I don't see runoff. Should I wait until the top is completely dry before watering?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00INM0DSG/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?qid=1453187404&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX118_SY170_QL70&keywords=led+grow+light&dpPl=1&dpID=511GC8bCmqL&ref=plSrch

This looks like better deal. I only have 300w panels same brand.

Tell me about this overdrive I am willing to shop around There very close to same price

Okay, thanks. I didn't realize that as thought it was 300w. What do you think of this one?

https://www.amazon.ca/VIVOSUN-Hydroponic-Digital-Dimmable-Reflector/dp/B00P8PDBY4/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=high+pressure+sodium+grow+light&qid=1549752927&refinements=p_72%3A11192170011&rnid=11192166011&s=gateway&sr=8-2

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Ok, well I guess I'm looking at HPS now...
Hows this:
https://www.amazon.ca/VIVOSUN-Hydroponic-Digital-Dimmable-Reflector/dp/B00P8PDBY4/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=ballast&qid=1555032810&s=lawn-garden&sr=1-4&th=1

Hi! Im looking for my first setup. Ill have a 4x8 tent. Im about to put 2 of these in it :
https://www.amazon.ca/hydroponique-numérique-intensité-variable-réflecteur/dp/B00P8PDDEM?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_1

Im leaning toward hps because my friends swears by them. But none of them are growing in tent. Im interested in leds and qb but i know nothing about them. What would you recommend for my tent ?

seriously i get it qb are great but i would need to spend double upfront and i might need to supply more heat anyway at the since this place is hard to keep warm in cold winter. i think i'll try with an hps instead.

do you think a kit like this would be good? and what is a good sized tent to go with it?

Last year I kept them in the furnace room in the basement with this light https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T0CPI6A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_0J6RBbW7N5H8Y but it always felt like I was going to visit my plant children in prison.

The window faces south, it gets a fair amount of light after the trees lose their leaves but it’s not completely unshaded. I might try that for a bit.

Thanks for the advice :)

Yeah, those are definitely easier to find & less expensive. My current lights are hanging from one of these stands, though, and I would have to figure out how to make those shop lights work with that setup. I dunno if I'm that creative lol

I got mine on amazon : iPower 54W 4 Feet T5 Grow Light... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T0CPI6A?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

About $50 on Amazon! It had some reviews that made me weary, but I have not had any issues.https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T0CPI6A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have read that full spectrum wastes energy bc the plants can only utilize certain spectrums. Is that true? Here is another I was looking at that uses the more red spectrum. Is this one any good? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UORXUBA/ref=psdc_14252941_t2_B078P484HD

I’m doing soil, was planning on 8 plants (I’m allowed 12), possibly 10. I know a heater/humidifier will be in the room-doesn’t need to be in the tent. Would the lights I have be good for 8 plants?

Would 2 of these fill the tent if with the lights I have if I wanted to do 10?
https://www.amazon.com/VIPARSPECTRA-V1200-Spectrum-Indoor-Plants/dp/B00UORXUBA/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1536785789&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=viparspectra+1200w&dpPl=1&dpID=41E5Hk6H7eL&ref=plSrch


Idt you’re being a dick I appreciate the response

The viparspectra's have a pretty good name as an alternative, for 600 you could get this or this
More bang for your dollar. You could definately do 4 plants with either of those I suspect. Others may chime in with suggestions as well if you're not in a hurry.

MARS HYDRO TSW 2000W Led Grow Light 4x4 Coverage Full Spectrum Grow Lamps for Indoor Plants Veg Bloom with Updated LED White Growing Light with Timer https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PLYR5HG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_KNDSDb1GA6J5A

So I’m better off with the QB above than the one below?


VIPARSPECTRA UL Certified 1200W LED Grow Light, with Veg and Bloom Switches, Full Spectrum Plant Growing Lights for Indoor Plants Veg and Flower https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UORXUBA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_jQDSDb8WQAG9H

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00UORXUBA?psc=1

This is pretty good. 350€, draws about 500 true W of LED

Yes, that would be a perfect size for two or three plants. My first was 36” x 36” with 4 plants, but it was a little tight.

You can use a couple of carabiners to hang the lights from the aluminum tube frame. I use these. Makes it super easy to adjust the height.

Not sure how many holes are on that reflector but these rope hangers and a combination of zip ties/caribeneers/s-hooks will be an affordable solution for hanging your light. Only $9.99 for a set of 4!
https://www.amazon.com/iPower-GLROPEX2-Adjustable-Improved-Resistant/dp/B018WIOEDA

Looks like your standard T5HO grow light and reflector combo to me. Perhaps a Sunblaster T5HO?

Sunblaster tend to be slightly more pricey than other manufacturers so you can probably bag a cheaper bargain if you look for other T5HO grow lights online. You can also get different setups i.e. from single tube with a reflector right up to significantly larger 8 tube combos.

The one you linked draws 180 watts from the wall. It would do but for a couple dollars more you could get something better. I see a lot of people using the Mars hydro 2 lights with decent results.

I personally grow auto flowers with this light. It’s not a LED though but it fits our purposes. it covers a 4x4 area, has switches so you can run it at half or full power which is around 450 watts. The advantage I see to it is the bulbs are serviceable unlike the LEDs so I can swap out different bulbs to adjust my spectrum exactly how I want it for different stages. Until your ready for plants 4’ or higher it would do you well.

https://www.amazon.com/Hydroplanet-Fluorescent-Included-Horticulture-Gardening/dp/B019J3UPUS?keywords=led+grow+lights&qid=1538324212&sr=8-1-spons&ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa&psc=1

No regular cfls are not sufficient. This is the one I use and love Hydroplanet T5 4ft 8lamp Fluorescent Ho Bulbs Included for Indoor Horticulture Gardening T5 Grow Lights Fixtures (8 Lamp, 4ft) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019J3UPUS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fKD.Bb41YCHBJ. You can even bloom under it but you must change out the tubes to a low kelvin spectrum bulb.

I do use lights, yes! My plant room faces northeast, so it's certainly not the best for most succulents. My apartment doesn't have much direct light at all, so I've had to improvise.

I have something almost exactly like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Hydroplanet-Fluorescent-Included-Horticulture-Gardening/dp/B019J3UPUS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1496341402&sr=8-3&keywords=t5+4ft

I have it suspended from my ceiling with some pulleys. I'm actually in the process of trying to get a second lamp going as well-- but the electric bill isn't pretty because of them!

Do a little more research. There are better options out there for a little bit more money that will work way better. What is your budget? How much space are you looking to light? What crops are you trying to grow? These all matter quite a bit.

Personally- this is the direction I would point you towards:

https://www.amazon.com/Light-LM301B-Quantum-Board-660nm/dp/B07W6YSYL2/ref=sr_1_34?keywords=quantum+led&qid=1572735505&sr=8-34

But a decent T5 fixture will work well for starters. An added benefit is that you can change bulbs out across your grow cycle for proper spectrum for the plants at specific growth stages.

https://www.amazon.com/Hydroplanet-Fluorescent-Included-Horticulture-Gardening/dp/B019J3UPUS/ref=sr_1_5?crid=I625429FQV30&keywords=t5+led+grow+lights+4ft&qid=1572735678&s=lawn-garden&sprefix=t5%2Clawngarden%2C190&sr=1-5

Lola prefers this one: Growstar 45W LED Grow Light UV IR Full Spectrum LED Grow Bulb for Indoor Plants Hydroponic Greenhouse Plant Seedling Flowers (45W 225 LEDs) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LYOL5QU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_zExACbJTZJ26V

Probably the lighting. I'm just using a generic 45W led panel I got from Amazon.

Edit: I can't find the exact one but this one is identical. [Here.](LED Grow Light Growstar 45W Plant Lights Bulbs Panel Series Full Spectrum for Hydroponic Aquatic Indoor Plants 13" 225 LEDS https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LYOL5QU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_dzlMybXEAE0DM)

Amazon. I have the ones that are just a square with the pink/blue/white lights. Works like a charm. No etoliation over an Illinois winter that won't end. I only have them on 12 hours a day.

I'm using the Full Spectrum 45W growstar LED from amazon. I keep them on ~15 hours a day and ~24" above the solo-cups, seems to be enough to keep my plants growing happy. At least until they can go outside!

Heres the one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MPY7YC2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_AuFgzbX25380W

Maybe, but you could get a better light for $70.

These LED panels will work for veg and flower.

I use [these] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XPKQPSL?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf) and am happy with the results.

The problem is it needs to be 3 ft and i can only find 2 ft and 4 ft fixtures. The only 3 ft fixture i can find is direct connection not plug in. Basically i need these, but 3 ft long.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XPKQPSL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_EaPZBbJC1WKAB

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KZKW73S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_6.OZBbG8TE3J4

Any ideas?

Thank you! This was very helpful :) I ended up going with https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XPKQPSL/ref=psdc_14252961_t2_B015TL6RH4 for now, I only have one lamp per shelf- do you think that's enough without supplemental natural light? I'm in zone 9b but my place has poor natural lighting and only direct, hot sunlight outside. I wanted to start without a huge investment just in case I kill everything somehow haha but plan to add more or at least 2 per shelf later on. Thank you again!

There's a single t5 high output bulb above each shelf. They're around 6500k. Reading some more, I may need two bulbs per shelf, but I'm gonna see how they do for now. but there is room under the shelves for it if I wanted to add more.

The shelf was found on amazon, but I wish I bought the one that my costco had on sale for only $20 more, it was a good bit nicer, but this one is solid wood and not bad looking.

Full view of the setup There's more shelves that would hold more fixtures, but since it's in a living space I didn't want to install a sun right where we spend a good deal of our time. I'll try and post updates in a few days/week, since the propagations have been growing quickly, I should be able to see if they're progressing/happy fairly quickly.

I hate asking you to do my homework for me, but do you think you can reccomend to me some grow lamps to have in my tent?

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This is what I ordered

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https://www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Reflective-Indoor-Hydroponic-Growing/dp/B07HQMX3S1/ref=pd_ybh_a_14?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=WRQP0659XB8JMPFFNS5D

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I looked at this,

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https://www.amazon.com/Niello-Spectrum-Dissipation-Hydroponics-Greenhouse/dp/B07H3WPVL6/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=cob&qid=1561939034&s=gateway&sr=8-1

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and this.

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https://www.amazon.com/Double-Spectrum-Greenhouse-Indoor-Flower/dp/B0185OLBPK/ref=pd_rhf_dp_s_cr_simh_0_8?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0185OLBPK&pd_rd_r=08b35f2c-7e42-4923-a741-db427e372e14&pd_rd_w=fg5nM&pd_rd_wg=9sXJL&pf_rd_p=67aa5820-8762-4202-90ba-881bb99c913c&pf_rd_r=P503HNVMP0KBFTX09G19&psc=1&refRID=P503HNVMP0KBFTX09G19

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I would love your reccomendation. I'm growing just a few plants currently. Also, I think my tent is pretty cold. It's at 75F currently, i'd like to bump it up to 82F. Do you have any suggestions?

Could you suggest a decent QB for my setup? Browsing a few on amazon but I'm having a bit of trouble telling them apart, maybe something like this? it's not listed as a quantum board but is there much of a difference?

I think the 150 and 600 are both equivalent and not actual wattage

Oh good to know! I was looking at this as well but with it being a small space and all (about 27 inches high and 22 inches wide) I'm hoping I don't fry my plant.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H3WPVL6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2D3OVQZ1H4YHJ&psc=1

600w hps with a fan and filter. you're going to want a fan and filter regardless of the lights you use, and the 600 hps will beat those two panels at a fraction of the cost. just duct the exhausted air out of a window and you won't be running much hotter than the leds.
if you're dead-set on led, look into cobs or go with a couple cheaper panels imo. maybe a couple of these. the ones you linked are really expensive and aren't going to be enough light for that 4x4 tent.

I guess it depends on what your definition of break the bank is. I've been using the 600w one for a year with no problems.

So something like this? amazon 600w hps bulb