(Part 2) Best true crime biographies according to redditors
We found 4,248 Reddit comments discussing the best true crime biographies. We ranked the 1,473 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the products ranked 21-40. You can also go back to the previous section.
I'm the author of the book Case Files of the East Area Rapist / Golden State Killer: https://www.amazon.com/Files-Rapist-Golden-State-Killer/dp/0999458108/
More on Project MKULTRA, as well as its precursors, sub-projects and alleged continuation:
Actually, it was David Kahn's The Codebreakers that was going to reveal the UKUSA agreement when is was first published in 1967, which would have revealed the way the US and UK could spy on their domestic populations by swapping data. The NSA persuaded the publisher to strike that page from the finished product, the first time that the US ever pre-censored a civilian publication. Technically "legal" in that the publisher did it "voluntarily" rather than coerced.
In 1983 James Bamford reproduced the missing page in The Puzzle Palace. At this point it was now formally known that the US and UK could spy on anyone, anywhere in the world, and get away with it. (Each organization can spy on everything-minus-their-own-country. All it takes is two countries to agree to fill in the holes for each other and both can "legally" know everything.)
NSA has been doing this for over 50 years. It has been known to those who cared to look for over 30 years. Snowden really only revealed their tactics and technology, not their strategy or goals. Their goal has always been Total Information Awareness.
If the Brock Turner case (and, really, the way rich, white, male college kids are treated when they do anything, much less rape someone) is starting to piss you off, read Missoula. https://www.amazon.com/Missoula-Rape-Justice-System-College/dp/0385538731
The DoJ had to intervene in Missoula because the cops were believing the guys, not the girls, mostly because of college athlete culture.
great book!
For the most part they solved the case. It's just that that absolute wacko nut job of a prosecutor They have over there refused to do his job.
also, this is the same prosecutor that prosecuted the Amanda Knox case. The guy is informed by conspiracy theories, numerology theories related to Satan worshiping, and other crazy nonsense. he is batshit insane.
The suspect they pegged the book you are referring to, linked here.
https://www.amazon.com/Monster-Florence-Douglas-Preston/dp/1455573825/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498144569&sr=8-1&keywords=monster+of+florence.
Is almost certainly guilty of those murders. He fits the FBI profile perfectly, he had the motive and ability, he had the proper psychological history, he was living near the murders every time, etc. etc.
There's a fascinating book by the journalist Mark Ames about the rise of workplace/school rage shootings (at least in the US) and their correlation with intensely increased economic and social pressure on middle-class America over the last 30-40 years. He compares their perception by media and government (and those sympathetic to the shooters) to slave rebellions of the 18-19th centuries.
Didn't necessarily agree with all of his conclusions, but worth a read if interested.
You can try sorting by "top" on this sub though I just did that and didn't exactly get a ton of longer ones.
Off the top of my head, I know there's also a long write-up on Casey Anthony on the sub.
Then I've found I've stumbled upon a few longer write-ups online that I have really been engaged in.
Sneha Philips
Maura Murray
The murders of Jo Rogers and her daughters Michelle and Christe
(this one has a resolution but I was drawn in by the writing)
Also try going to longreads.com and I think you can sort by "crime" there.
Then.. if you really get into it, a few book recommendations!
Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil
The Monster of Florence
People Who Eat Darkness
The Lost City of Z
they both apologized to their parents, they weren't sociopaths (though it may be easier to label them as such), and they were, in fact, bullied:
>As one member of the Columbine High School football team bragged after the massacre, "Columbine is a good, clean place except for those rejects. Most kids didn't want them there... Sure we teased them. But what do you expect with kids who come to school with weird hairdos and horns on their hats?... If you want to get rid of someone, usually you tease 'em. So the whole school would call them homos."
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>Former columbine student Brooks Brown recounted one incident: I was smoking cigarettes with [Klebold and Harris] when a bunch of football players drove by, yelled something, and threw a glass bottle that shattered near Dylan's feet. I was pissed, but Eric and Dylan didn't even flinch. 'Don't worry about it, man,' Dylan said. 'It happens all the time.'"
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>Once, a student reported them to the administration for allegedly having brought drugs to school, just to humiliate them for a laugh.
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>They were so marked for abuse that even talking to them was dangerous. One female student recounted how, when she was a Columbine freshman, some jocks spotted her talking to Dylan Klebold in the school hallway between classes. After she walked away from him, one of the bullies slammed her against the lockers and called her a "fag lover."
source (an excellent read by the way)
these were kids deeply disenfranchised by the institutions that surrounded them -- high school, suburbia, etc. -- and rebelled. in eric harris' own words, "we're going to kick start a revolution, a revolution of the dispossessed!"
>the record now shows Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold hadn't been bullied — in fact, they had bragged in diaries about picking on freshmen and "fags."
yes, if experience shows us anything, it's that bullied people can't bully others.
p.s. usatoday is shit publication. wtf@"not videogamers", they played doom 2 and that's well known
> The murder of Jonbenet Ramsey would also bother me but at least they could prove it wasn't the family.
Err...read Foreign Faction and then tell me if you think it wasn't the family. The family is the first people I suspect in that case.
He's a pretty neat guy. He first became fairly well known for discovering one of the earliest cyberspying cases:
> A 75-cent discrepancy in billing for computer time led Stoll, an astrophysicist working as a systems manager at a California laboratory, on a quest that reads with the tension and excitement of a fictional thriller. Painstakingly he tracked down a hacker who was attempting to access American computer networks, in particular those involved with national security, and actually reached into an estimated 30 of the 450 systems he attacked. Initially Stroll waged a lone battle, his employers begrudging him the time spent on his search and several government agencies refused to cooperate. But his diligence paid off and in due course it was learned that the hacker, 25-year-old Markus Hess of Hanover, Germany, was involved with a spy ring. Eight members were arrested by the West German authorities but all but one were eventually released.
His book on the incident is an outstanding read.
Another example of how crazy the Italian justice system is, is The Monster of Florence http://www.amazon.com/Monster-Florence-Douglas-Preston/dp/1455573825/
A story of murder, superstitious prosecutors, incompetent detectives, much like the Amanda Knox case.
Fuck this BS. At least my state said they are keeping the "preponderance of evidence" rule because that makes the most sense. You are being expelled not fucking sent to prison. Just like they use that standard of evidence in civil trials. Which is why O.J. lost at civil trial but won at criminal trial.
But I guess those rules are okay when we are taking your money but not kicking you out of school. Fuck them thinking due process applies to schools, but only in rape cases. Not in plagiarism or cheating or vandalism or the dude I know who got kicked out for smoking weed. Did he get a trial of a jury of his peers that were asked if he was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt? Fuck no.
I might be biased because the city close to me was a big impetus for this letter and a bit of a precursor. They were doing so bad with rape (both the school and the sheriff's office) that the Feds basically came in and changed things. Before if you had been raped outside the city you were told not to go to the sheriff unless you wanted to be victimized more. Wrote a book about it.
I've read his manifesto and some of his other writings. They were published in book form here: https://www.amazon.com/Technological-Slavery-Collected-Kaczynski-k/dp/1932595805
He's probably not crazy. He looked crazy when he was arrested, for sure. And his manifesto sometimes reads like he's unhinged, but that's mostly because he had to use all caps a lot for emphasis because his typewriter didn't have itallics, and so it sounds like he's shouting. But he's actually just extremely anti-technology to the point of violent resistance. Court psychologists had mixed opinions.
Thank her for what? She didn't do anything other than write a book on the case that was filled with info that's been around for years.
There are also other people that wrote books about the case much better than she did, two of them being detectives that worked on the case:
Michelle McNamara had nothing to do with solving the case, yet for some strange reason certain people seem to think that it wouldn't have been solved without her. Or course that's just ridiculous because she had nothing to do with investigating or solving it. But now I almost can't read any article about earons with out her name being mentioned even though she had nothing to do with the case.
The only people that deserve a thank you in this case are the police that finally solved it.
There have been plenty of good suspects, but they were ruled out through various means. At the time, many suspects were ruled out due to secretor statuses. Now, law enforcement has been going back looking for those ruled out in that manner to re-check them, since it was faulty back then. That may or may not be a huge deciding factor in this case. Sadly, Sacramento tossed a lot of the evidence they had -- even a list of possible suspects -- when the statute of limitations expired for the sexual assault crimes. This was done long before EAR was connected to ONS. It was still premature, though, considering the wide array of officials believing he was behind the Maggiore killings in Rancho Cordova in 1978. Nevertheless, things are looking up for this case. There are certain POIs being looked at heavily; some have been phoned in by the public, sleuths, and others.
If you have any more questions regarding the case, I'd be glad to help answer them if I can. You can also check out my friend's website, http://www.coldcase-earons.com/
She also has a book in the case, which is the most accurate, up-to-date book on the market right now. https://www.amazon.com/Files-Rapist-Golden-State-Killer/dp/0999458108/
Is This it?
It's probably not these, but perhaps you'll find them interesting:
Serial Killers: The Method and Madness of Monsters
Serial Killers and Mass Murderers: Profiles of the World's Most Barbaric Criminals
Edit: UnicornScarf beat me to the punch! s/he replied while I was still compiling my response!
It is called "Case Files of the East Area Rapist/Golden State Killer."
https://www.amazon.com/Files-Rapist-Golden-State-Killer/dp/0999458108
Lee Harvey Oswald. There is actually plenty of clear evidence that Oswald was the one responsible, and almost no credible evidence that anyone other than Oswald was responsible or involved. And while there might be a lack of public consensus as to JFK's death, there is an almost completely universal consensus on this point among actual academic historians. If you're interested in separating the pop-culture conspiracy bullshit from actual historical evidence, there are two books I can recommend that will leave you with pretty much zero doubt as to what the evidence suggests: Gerald Posner's Case Closed, and Vincent Bulgosi's Reclaiming History.
The hard evidence is for a lone gunman. Also, the conspiracy theories usually don't look closely at Oswald's murder of Officer J.D. Tippit, which is the rosetta stone of the case. http://www.amazon.com/Case-Closed-Gerald-Posner/dp/1400034620/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1414167452&sr=1-3&keywords=case+closed
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>Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, The Communist Manifesto — the manifesto of a movement that murdered more than 100 million people, specifically targeting an entire class of people — the bourgeoisie — for destruction; for sale in many editions from the richest capitalist in the world
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>Leon Trotsky’s Terrorism and Communism — a defense of political terrorism
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>Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf — also available in many editions — which is apparently less threatening to the current world order than my book.
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>The Unabomber’s Manifesto — which does seem to create a moral hazard. Want to get your book published? Start mailing out package bombs. Kill three people and injure 23 others, and your book might also be fit to stock at Amazon.com.
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>Valerie Solanas’ S.C.U.M. Manifesto — S.C.U.M. being an acronym for Society to Cut Up Men. Solanas published her manifesto in 1967. In 1968, she attempted to murder Andy Warhol.
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>The Anarchist’s Cookbook — corrected and updated to make it extra lethal
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>Osama Bin Laden’s Messages to the World — mastermind one of history’s greatest terrorist attacks, and you too might be fit to stock at Amazon.com
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>Voice of Hezbollah: The Statements of Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah — apparently there’s a whole library of books by Islamist terrorists for sale at Amazon.com
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>Theodor Herzl, The Jewish State — the blueprint of the Zionist movement, which spawned the creation of a Jewish state in Palestine through terrorism, ethnic cleansing, and wars that continue to this day
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>Black Nationalist Manifestos by such writers as Marcus Garvey and Elijah Muhammad
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>Everybody Talks About the Weather . . . We Don’t: The Writings of Ulrike Meinhof
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>Ernesto “Che” Guevara, Guerrilla Warfare
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>Al-Qaida’s Doctrine for Insurgency: Abd al-Aziz al-Muqrin’s “a Practical Course for Guerrilla War”
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You’ve decided that your friend is a liar. So just stop being her friend. You value this guy more than her, so just cut her loose.
Then please read https://www.amazon.com/Missoula-Rape-Justice-System-College/dp/0385538731. Your understanding of acquaintance rape is dated and inaccurate.
If you worried about rape in Missoula you should start arresting the football teams.
http://www.amazon.com/Missoula-Rape-Justice-System-College/dp/0385538731
This guy has a degree in law, and an impressive track record. It would seem this isn't to be taken lightly.
From The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder (Hardcover)
by Vincent Bugliosi:
> About the Author:
> Vincent Bugliosi received his law degree in 1964. In his career at the Los Angeles County District Attorney's office, he successfully prosecuted 105 out of 106 felony jury trials, including 21 murder convictions without a single loss. His most famous trial, the Charles Manson case, became the basis of his true-crime classic, Helter Skelter, the biggest selling true-crime book in publishing history. Two of Bugliosi's other true-crime books-And the Sea Will Tell and Outrage-also reached #1 on the New York Times hardcover bestseller list. No other American true-crime writer has ever had more than one book that achieved this ranking. His latest book, Reclaiming History: The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy, was also a New York Times bestseller, and is being made into a ten-part HBO miniseries, for which Tom Hanks will be a producer. Bugliosi lives with his wife of many years in Los Angeles.
Mark Ames [floated] (http://pando.com/2015/03/26/the-one-wild-possibility-missing-from-most-of-the-equally-baseless-germanwings-speculation/) the idea that this was a disgruntled worker massacre. [And he would know] (http://www.amazon.com/Going-Postal-Rebellion-Workplaces-Columbine/dp/1932360824).
Sons of Cain
Serial Killers: The Method and Madness of Monsters
Ted Bundy : Conversations with a Killer
Sure! It’s been along time since I’ve read it… It actually I think is more about the “monster of Florence” case than the Amanda Knox case. It’s similar in that the same prosecutor is involved. This crazy guy accused the American author and his friend of being the murderer out of thin air. And then he did the same thing to Amanda Knox and her boyfriend and others. After his experience in Italy, author Douglas Preston spoke out for Amanda because he had been put in the same situation.
You can read the reviews and see what you think!
The Monster of Florence https://www.amazon.com/dp/1455573825/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_oEC9BbT80TJKD
I'm not sure that it ever really existed (Monarch, that is). Quite frankly, the whole thing sounds pretty loony tunes to me.
MKUltra, on the other hand, was VERY real, and I'm convinced that it continued long past the 70's. Read The Search for the "Manchurian Candidate": The CIA and Mind Control: The Secret History of the Behavioral Sciences by John Marks - it's a mind-blower.
Helter Skelter has been strongly called into question in recent years. While Manson was for sure nuts, so was the prosecutor Bugliosi. The dude just made shit up and lied and concealed facts to present a tighter narrative and get himself fame with such a big wild case.
This book sheds a lot of light on the real complexity of the Manson case, and makes it pretty clear that the Helter Skelter motive was basically whole cloth nonsense made up by the prosecutor.
https://www.amazon.com/Chaos-Charles-Manson-History-Sixties/dp/0316477559
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http://www.amazon.in/Hells-Angels-Strange-Terrible-Saga/dp/0345410084
Great read, highly suggest it.
Personally, I read for fun in my spare time and usually learn about other things (which inevitably I manage to relate back). I've also found that audiobooks are awesome for law school. I have to cook, I have to do laundry, I have to clean the house, walk to the grocery store, and all of those things can be done while listening to an audiobook. Some of the below were listened to, others were read traditionally.
That being said, this book on the Warren Court was "recommended" in Con Law and I found it short and revealing about a significant era in SCOTUS history.
I adored Sonia Sotomayor's autobiography, which was more about her youth and early career but felt like listening to a bad ass Aunt talk about her life choices when she was my age.
Gideon's Trumpet (Although if, era of the book be damned, if it described lawyers as "young men" one more time, I swear to god...)
Sisters in Law also felt like a nice preview of Con Law - a lot of the cases we read in Con Law were familiar to me as I'd read that before then.
Pop-crime books that I nevertheless got me thinking about law when I read them include In Cold Blood (which I listened to while in Evidence class and found myself being like - wait, why isn't this a 403 violation or hearsay? and then looking the law up to clarify the rule I hadn't quite started learning yet) and Missoula: Rape and the Justice System in a College Town.
I also highly recommend the podcasts Radiolab: More Perfect (spin off); the Radiolab episode The Buried Bodies Case; and the podcast Stuff You Missed in History Class, many episodes of which are either explicitly about a court case (they have several on like, Loving v. Virginia, Brown v. Board, the cases about special education) or more related to lesser known policies that didn't really make it to Court (e.g., the Bracero program).
Edit: typo
Edit 2: The More Perfect episode, "The Political Thicket," which came out two weeks after I took my Con Law exam, was pretty much straight up the answer to question #3 on my exam.
Uh-huh... I'm full of shit, for repeating her conspiracy theories that she lays down word for word in her own book Trance formation of America.
https://www.amazon.com/Trance-Formation-America-Cathy-OBrien/dp/0966016548
>Bush apparently activated a hologram of the lizard-like "alien" which provided the illusion of Bush transforming like a chameleon before my eyes.
The effect of Bush's illusion hologram on such victims is binding and strong.
De la Madrid claimed to have Mayan/alien ancestry in his blood, whereby he transformed "back into an Iguana at will." De la Madrid produced a hologram similar to the one Bush did.
His hologram of lizard-like tongue and eyes produced the illusion that he was transforming into an Iguana.
I will say this, she doesn't necessarily think Bush is an alien, only that we have the technology to make it look like he turns into one.
This was touch DNA. Meaning it was a tiny trace amount. It could have even come from the person who packaged the underwear.
It was the Ramsey family who covered up another family member. The intruder hypothesis was dismantled by Kolar in his book Foreign Faction step by step.
There was a spiderweb across the broken window they said the intruder gained access to. It is the police crime scene video.
Their sons prints were all over the bowl of pineapple yet neither of the parents claimed to have given her pineapple. Pineapple was in the autopsy report.
Whoever wrote the note and made the meal put everything back in the exact same place it was taken from. Note was done using a pad from the home.
Kolar explains this all step by step.
Moral of the story, don't tell your wife your Christmas bonus when she is writing the ransom note.
As a bonus you should watch the parents denying Patsy's handwriting in their family photo album with captions on what each photo is about. They claim they don't know who wrote in their own family photo album. That a stranger could have done it. The clip is 30 min long and you can see them deny it in this deposition at around 9 minutes 30 seconds. It sort of makes you cringe.
For anyone interested in learning more about "Italian justice", I strongly recommend the book The Monster of Florence, a real-life tale of a novelist getting caught up in the bizarre machinations of Italian criminal investigations while studying a long-standing unsolved crime. Fascinating, and it has a tie-in at the end to the original Knox trial.
I ache for this poor girl as I truly think her life is lost, unfairly and irrevocably, to a despicably corrupt justice system.
Something that's not on there but which I would heartily recommend is The Cuckoo's Egg, which is 100% hard computer storytelling because it's a true story of a thing that actually happened, and the sneaky espionage / counter-espionage that a sysadmin and a hacker got in to against each other.
In Cold Blood by Truman Capote is non-fiction, but parts are written in a fiction-esque manner based on interviews with both witnesses and the murderers themselves to flush out some detail. It gets into the mindset of the murders, why they did it, what kind of people they were, etc. and is considered a classic.
I hope that helps.
You read Trance-Formation of America? Apparently he likes them very young...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Trance-Formation-America-Story-Control/dp/0966016548
https://www.amazon.com/Foreign-Faction-Really-Kidnapped-JonBenet/dp/098476321X
>I'm not sure why it's such a problem for me or anyone to have an opinion like this.
It's not a problem but also realize that you're holding a position, it's not an opinion like "strawberry ice cream is the best ice cream flavor". I disagree that it's pointless to "argue" about things that are "only theories". This isn't a philosophy class, it's a murder case with real-life evidence. Even if all we can do is speculate with limited evidence, one still has to use verifiable information and evidence and reason to uphold one's position.
>Know anymore good books dealing with this?
Schiller's book, Steve Thomas's book, Kolar's book are essential reads.
The latter two worked officially on the case and had access to the full spectrum of evidence, unlike Douglas who was hired privately by the Ramseys and was given cherry-picked evidence by their attorneys.
Think your best bet would be a book like this one-
Case Files of the East Area Rapist / Golden State Killer https://www.amazon.com/dp/0999458108/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_IWFYAbFA2VHT9
The recent 40th anniversary press release by investigators would probably be the next best.
http://www.amazon.com/Case-Closed-Gerald-Posner/dp/1400034620/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1314662482&sr=8-1
Dr. Mary's Monkey. (Appropriate on the anniversary of the assassination of JFK)
http://www.amazon.com/Dr-Marys-Monkey-Cancer-Causing-Assassination/dp/1937584593
There's a few nice books on the topic (anonymity, how 4chan ended up keepin the anon system, how long term users saw much less homophobia and racism than new acceptance for things they never had been exposed to). I was on 4chan for a little while. Can't remember other author names but I find the take of Parmy Olson to be very close to how the thing felt. She's presenting the history of 4chan as a total outsider, but she did do the research, and she makes the whole Poole/Anonymous/LulzSec thing sound like a nice suspens story. It's easy to read. It's still very, very much contemporary and it's very strange for me to call it history but it is and I don't know how people can use the internet without having at least some idea of what went on around 4chan (but they can I'm just being old).
Chaos : Charles Manson, The CIA and the Secret History of the Sixties has just come out this year and confirmed absolutely that the Helter Skelter motive was a lie. Tom O'neill has done some amazing research and genuinely delivered on publishing information not before seen. https://www.amazon.com/Chaos-Charles-Manson-History-Sixties/dp/0316477559
Another enlightening read on a much misrepresented case is The Life and Time of Charles Manson by Jeff Guinn whose extensive research also proved that much of what is 'known' about Manson was not true https://www.amazon.com/Manson-Life-Times-Charles/dp/1451645171
The Family by Ed Sanders is also considered by many to be an alternative to Helter Skelter and essential reading on the Manson case https://www.amazon.com/Family-Ed-Sanders/dp/1560253967
The prison biography of Tex Watson who actually committed the murders is available to read free online https://www.aboundinglove.org/main/images/bookPDFs/Will_You_Die_For_Mesmall.pdf
But the crime rate in the US isn't much different than most European countries. The only thing really different is that the US has a higher murder rate, though that difference long predates the introduction of gun control in Europe.
broke: Manson was a hippy
woke: Manson was a nazi
bespoke: Manson was GLADIO
Tom O'Neill's newly-released book Chaos: Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the 1960s also reveals new documents O'Neill dug up about previously-denied MK-ULTRA correspondence & cooperation between Sidney Gottlieb & Louis Jolyon West.
That's two major landmark books about MK Ultra in the past 3 months. Probably the top 2 books about the subject. Coincidence?
Thanks for the heads-up on the Kinzer book; gotta wonder what Kinzer thinks of being scooped by O'Neill.
There are actually a number of sources that have documented the event in Pont-Saint-Esprit as well as a number of other incidents involving different government organizations dosing people without their knowledge and studying the effects. See The Search For The Manchurian Candidate as a good starting point for the US government's experimentation with mind altering substances.
I’ll be gone In the dark:
https://www.amazon.com/Ill-Be-Gone-Dark-Obsessive/dp/0062319787
In cold blood
https://www.amazon.com/Cold-Blood-Truman-Capote/dp/0679745580
Bad blood
https://www.amazon.com/Bad-Blood-Secrets-Silicon-Startup/dp/152473165X
I know you're joking but GWB does seem to exude a lot of the characteristics of a child abuse victim. His own father is painted as a manipulative pedophile by MK Ultra survivor Cathy Obrien in her book, "Trance: Formation of America".
Thanks, I just looked it up. https://www.amazon.com/Trance-Formation-America-Cathy-OBrien/dp/0966016548
Madame, it is on Kindle Unlimited in USA:
https://www.amazon.com/Foreign-Faction-Really-Kidnapped-JonBenet/dp/098476321X/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=james+kolar&qid=1574910037&sr=8-1
> Get the free trial, grab the book
Note: I suspect Ms. Vanessa Clark Love may be Lin Wood in disguise! She is VERY clever!
Get her a good serial killer book. Here's some of my favourites:
Sudden Terror East Area Rapist
In the Wake of the Butcher [revised] Mad Butcher of Kingsbury Run
Monster of Florence
The Prosecution of George W. Bush
For Murder
-- Vincent Bugliosi
I will let a retired DA explain why President G.W.Bush is the worst president ever.
Bugliosoi has made a compelling case, let's just say. In fact this book is the case material.
http://www.amazon.com/Prosecution-George-W-Bush-Murder/dp/159315481X
From inside leaf:
"Vincent Bugliosi received his law degree in 1964. In his career at the L.A. County District Attorney's office, he successfully prosecuted 105 out of 106 felony jury trials. His most famous trial, the Charles Manson case, became the basis of his classic, Helter Skelter, the biggest selling true-crime book in publishing history."
empiricism implies that we cannot trust our brains. it eventually leads to reductionism (IMO) which implies everything can be (objectively) be boiled down to numbers as a final truth. its a very toxic and very new idea. when numbers become truth it has no other option but to turn society away from God (an atheist society is weak and foundationless) if you are really interested more about my viewpoints on this heres some reading that explains some of it better than i ever could:
https://www.amazon.com/Metaphysical-Foundations-Modern-Science/dp/0486425517
https://www.amazon.com/Technological-Society-Jacques-Ellul/dp/0394703901
https://www.amazon.com/Last-Superstition-Refutation-New-Atheism/dp/1587314525
https://www.amazon.com/Libido-Dominandi-Liberation-Political-Control/dp/1587314657 (this one is slightly less relevant but does go into how often empirical science's end goal is looking at humans as machines and how that is dehumanizing and controlling)
https://www.amazon.com/Revolt-Against-Modern-World-Julius/dp/089281506X
https://www.amazon.com/Technological-Slavery-Collected-Kaczynski-k/dp/1932595805/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_14_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=11DZHECERPHPBMFXWJKR
HERE (PDF)
Link is found on the author's (Gary Greenberg's) website.
Ted K. did not write a "memoir" himself. According to Greenberg; "In the Kingdom of the Unabomber is my account of my attempt to break into the writing racket by making friends with Ted Kaczynski."
If you mean Ted K's own "unabomber" writings (the manifesto), they are HERE
EDIT: he/him clarity
Further reading:
Dr. Mary's Monkey: How the Unsolved Murder of a Doctor, a Secret Laboratory in New Orleans and Cancer-Causing Monkey Viruses Are Linked to Lee Harvey Oswald, the JFK Assassination and Emerging Global Epidemics
Me & Lee: How I Came to Know, Love and Lose Lee Harvey Oswald
Here's an overview of Me and Lee I wrote a while back.
Also, watch this lecture: The Exploding Autoimmune Epidemic
Here's a summary I put together of this excellent video.
You can read the book, too! It's one of my absolute favorites; I read it every couple of years. The Cuckoo's Egg
Not sure if you are into security tech but some of my favorites....
Also thought I'd include some that I have purchased but not finished yet in case you'd be interested.
The whole point of this article is to get people to wander off into useless details after they lead you past the correct path right at the beginning. Read the Cuckoo's Egg. It's about a very early internet hack job by the Russians that was tracked down by a random sysadmin who wanted to figure out who was relaying shit through his server. See, even back then the Russians were making their connection through many hops. They compromised MANY servers in order to make it difficult to trace their activities back to their origin. No hacker worth a shit would only compromise one server directly from his address in Romania. It's just too stupid to even think about.
My reading recommendations include, mainly, a lot of textbooks! Unlike a lot of the true crime novels, I've found that criminal psychology, criminology, victimology, forensics and other academic textbooks and research journals are generally far less sensationalistic than the true crime novels tend to be. here are some of the ones that I highly recommend.
Serial Murderers and Their Victims by Eric W Hinkley is a fantastic resource for the latest studies concerning serial murder, focusing on both the perpetrators and their victims. Now in its seventh iteration, this text has some of the most up to date statistics on serial killers in the US and worldwide.
Serial Killers: The Method and Madness of Monsters by Peter Vronsky is another similarly great book full of real life case studies of serial and spree killers and delves into the motives behind such aberrant behavior.
The Encyclopedia of Serial Killers by Michael Newton has entries on hundreds of convicted serial killers.
The Serial Killer Files: The Who, What, Where, How, and Why of the World's Most Terrifying Murderers by Harold Schechter undoubtedly possesses a sensational bent, but I can't deny that the book is certainly thrilling to read in a morbid way, and I think any fan of true crime will like it very much.
Female Serial Killers: How and Why Women Become Monsters by Peter Vronsky explores the rare phenomenon of female serial killers.
Sexual Homicide: Patterns and Motives by Ressler, Burgess and Douglas is an important and easily-read psychological textbook on the sexual impulses that lead to violence.
Sexual Murder: Catathymic and Compulsive Homicides by Louis B Schlesinger is a similar book by a prominent forensic psychologist.
Sex-Related Homicide and Death Investigation: Practical and Clinical Perspectives, Second Edition: Practical Aspects of Criminal and Forensic Investigations by Vernon J Geberth is a manual for law enforcement professionals investigating sexually-motivated homicides by a renowned former-detective. The images and case studies are directly from the author's archive of case files. I will warn readers that some of the content in this book is highly disturbing, even for I, a person with an interest in the psychology of serial killers. All in all, a fascinating book for those who can stomach it.
Ted is still pretty scary but yah there are others that are scarier. I really liked this BOOK if you wanna hear about some others. I find the scariest ones are the ones whom you could be a victim to and I think that’s why bundy scares people...who wouldn’t help a normal looking guy in a public place carry something when he has a broken arm. My favourite quote from this book ‘better to be thought of as rude than to have the police sampling seminal fluid from your cold dead rectum’ 😳
Project Soul Catcher
Inside Track
Pentagon's Brain
Trance:Formation of America
Please read this book dude!!!! https://www.amazon.com/Trance-Formation-America-Cathy-OBrien/dp/0966016548/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481638058&sr=8-1&keywords=trance+formation+of+america
So important
I wanted to let you guys know a little bit about what's been done and what's kind of in the works over at the JBRCE. u/-searchinGirl has been doing some editing as well as what this post announces.
One thing that someone expressed was that citations in certain sections aren't well rounded enough and don't incorporate some of the newer books and materials. I feel the best way to do this quickly is to crowdsource the work.
We need to get citations and material from two of the newer books, specifically Kolar's and Woodward's. What I propose is that we do like a book club here and we can kill two birds with one stone.
We'll start with Kolar and as we read each week, we'll discuss the book as well as hopefully harvest citations for the JBRCE.
The previous mod wanted to do a book club and it went about 3 weeks and stopped. I'm not going to let that happen this time. We'll see this one through to the end.
If you don't own James Kolar's book and you want to be a part of this book club, go ahead and buy it now so you'll be ready. It appears his website is out of them right now, but Amazon has them in stock for around $14 and up.
We'll get together and devise a schedule and some other organization and we'll figure out how best to go about it.
After we do that one, we'll do Paula Woodward's book. I know that lots of people dislike Paula Woodward. I understand that. Still, it is a book that is about this case by a well known figure in the orbit of this case. It's noteworthy even if you disagree with Paula or her book.
I think this is a good opportunity for everyone to have a good discussion. It's one book from each 'side'. I would be interested in any ideas or suggestions anyone might have regarding this project.
It's from Kat Winter's (who posts on reddit, /u/winters_vw), Case Files of the East Area Rapist/Golden State Killer it might be new information. She'll definitely know more about accents and if any others were used (hence why I tagged her).
I didn't hear an accent in any of the calls though, you're right about that.
With regards to the dog, there's some speculation that he "borrowed" the dog (a woman reported that someone had apparently been taking her dog out at night without her permission) or that it was a local dog that came over to investigate what EAR/ONS was up to, and so thus wasn't actually his dog.
I haven't read it myself, but I've heard that Kat Winters' book is extremely detailed. https://www.amazon.com/Files-Rapist-Golden-State-Killer/dp/0999458108
The Monster of Florence by Douglas Preston and Mario Spezi
https://www.amazon.com/Monster-Florence-Douglas-Preston/dp/1455573825
This book was so amazing and an interesting look into the Italian justice system through the unsolved murders of a serial killer from the 70s. It also includes other issues at the time of the publication of this book including censorship of the press. I honestly loved this book through how it personally affected the author of this book (which I won’t spoil how). I feel like it is also important to note that while this book is based on crimes that aren’t world famous and so reading about it for the first time is so eye opening and interesting.
There's another good reason to do this one. One of the main investigators also worked on the monster of florence case. Its a crazy story
The police were super incompetent, part of hannibal lecters story is based on theories about the killer, it must be a physician, its the top journalist covering the case, its a secret satanic cult, so much stuff.
Theres a great book by two jouranalists that investigated the case. The American was charged and banned from the country for obstruction of justice and the Italian journalist was imprisoned on suspicion that he was the killer. Its bonkers.
https://www.amazon.com/Monster-Florence-Douglas-Preston/dp/1455573825
e: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuliano_Mignini This is the batshit Italian prosecutor involved in both cases. He's ripe for LPOTL
http://www.amazon.com/Prosecution-George-W-Bush-Murder/dp/159315481X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1212269577&sr=8-1
The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder
by Vincent Buglioso (author of Helter Skelter and a very competent prosecutor himself)
> The answer is not more gun control, it is broad social reform that actually improves quality of life in a general sense.
You nailed it. It seems likely that these rampage-killings are acts of desperation in response to various forms of oppression/social repression. Eventually, it becomes so overwhelming that people snap. Have you by any chance read, Going Postal?
>The butchery carried out by the capitalist class is the most unfettered in states like my own (Alabama)
I suppose what happened to Jefferson County is probably the worst example of this exploitation.
Non-fiction. A lot of people seem to discount anything that's not fiction, on the grounds that it will be boring, 'hard', or extraneous to their lives. What's I've found is that I'll often pick up a book because I'm interested in a particular topic, and 'new' non-fiction often takes you into many other related topics, how they've influenced/been a symbol of that society, etc.
A few of the books that really stick in my mind are
The Devil in the White City: A Saga of Magic and Murder at the Fair that Changed America. I'd originally picked it up because I've got an interest in serial killers (yeah, I know), but all of the information about engineering, the history of the World's Fair, Chicago etc. was just fascinating.
Last Call: The Rise and Fall of Prohibition. It's supposedly about Prohibition, but it says a lot more about the political/religious climate of the U.S. from the mid-1800s on, ties prohibition in with women's rights, churches, gangsters etc. And it's a great read.
Pretty much anything by Jon Krakauer. A lot of his books are about 'individualism vs. society', but they cover a lot of ground. Into Thin Air is one of the best extreme sports books I've ever read, Into the Wild is incredibly sad, Under the Banner of Heaven was a very interesting look at Mormon-related culture, etc.
At Home: A Short History of Private Life is just interesting, accessible reading, that touches on everything from why we have closets to when the desire for privacy influenced house design.
Quiverfull: Inside the Christian Patriarchy Movement is ostensibly about a splinter fundamentalist group that started in the U.S., but eventually ends up touching on everything from PACs, to racism, education styles, women's rights, how Catholic/Protestant/Jewish/Islamic fundamentalists are coming to an accord on some fairly major issues, and how that's likely to play out.
And because I'm a Tudor history nut, Henry VIII: the King and his Court, and The Creation of Anne Boleyn: A New Look at England's Most Notorious Queen were both very interesting, and go well beyond the standard royal biography. I think that it's pretty awesome that so much new information and scholarship is turning up around facts that we've 'known' for centuries.
Pretty much anything by Nathaniel Philbrick or David McCullough.
Non-fiction is just great, especially right now. I think that we're in a bit of in a Golden Age of non-fiction right now, as there's a demand for it, and authors are making it more accessible and interesting than ever.
Devil In The White City by Erik Larson
"In The Devil in the White City, the smoke, romance, and mystery of the Gilded Age come alive as never before.
Two men, each handsome and unusually adept at his chosen work, embodied an element of the great dynamic that characterized America’s rush toward the twentieth century. The architect was Daniel Hudson Burnham, the fair’s brilliant director of works and the builder of many of the country’s most important structures, including the Flatiron Building in New York and Union Station in Washington, D.C. The murderer was Henry H. Holmes, a young doctor who, in a malign parody of the White City, built his “World’s Fair Hotel” just west of the fairgrounds—a torture palace complete with dissection table, gas chamber, and 3,000-degree crematorium.
Burnham overcame tremendous obstacles and tragedies as he organized the talents of Frederick Law Olmsted, Charles McKim, Louis Sullivan, and others to transform swampy Jackson Park into the White City, while Holmes used the attraction of the great fair and his own satanic charms to lure scores of young women to their deaths. What makes the story all the more chilling is that Holmes really lived, walking the grounds of that dream city by the lake.
The Devil in the White City draws the reader into a time of magic and majesty, made all the more appealing by a supporting cast of real-life characters, including Buffalo Bill, Theodore Dreiser, Susan B. Anthony, Thomas Edison, Archduke Francis Ferdinand, and others. Erik Larson’s gifts as a storyteller are magnificently displayed in this rich narrative of the master builder, the killer, and the great fair that obsessed them both."
If you want to know what it was really like, from two perspectives, read this http://www.amazon.com/CYBERPUNK-Outlaws-Hackers-Computer-Frontier/dp/0684818620 and http://www.amazon.com/CUCKOOS-EGG-ebook/dp/B0083DJXCM/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1381774834&sr=1-5&keywords=cuckoos+nest
I didn't know many women into it, but mostly it was just guys, sitting around Denny's all night, trading disks and showing eachother tricks all night. After the movie, it seemed like everyone was interested, but they all wanted it to be like a video game. My friends, for decades, got together once a year or so and watched the movie making fun of it. Some of the stuff is close ... but either exaggerated, or just 'hey, they just opened a copy of Phreak and took it verbatim'. Lot's of that stuff was bullshit.
It's weird to have to explain to someone, but back in the day, with BBS systems, people could write up entire 'zines, and never really have them fact checked. You would see one Zine that would swear playing tones from a mincro-recorded into a phone would work, but it almost certainly never did. The tones were nearly inaudible, and needed to be generated at home, on a tone generator, and recorded digitally, to have the volume and quality to have any effect. Even then ... well, it would have been more realistic if they'd shown them doing it several times to get it to work once.
They had 'phone couplers', what we called them, but the way they were used in the movie was fiction.
Phreaking was mostly about boxes, but by the mid-ninety's, most phone companies had pretty much figured out how to fix those problems.
If you wanted to see phreaking, you should have seen weird boxes soldered together and a few guys nervously standing around a phone line. Seldomly a payphone, which was seriously overused in the movie. You know, most buildings phone wires just ran out through a hole in the wall, to a box that MIGHT have a padlock on it. If you wanted a line, all you had to do was walk in an alley, late at night, and strip some wires. Payphones would be stupid to use, by comparison.
I could go on, forever it seems, but the bottom line is that it wasn't very realistic. It got the details all wrong, no one wore clothes like that, there was no 'cyber-club' that anyone knew about, the only realistic 'hacking' scene is in the bedroom where they have five people pouring over one keyboard, trading ideas and fucking around all night. Hell, if the whole movie had been just THAT, it would have been the most realistic old school hacking movie ever made.
The concept may have been first practically demonstrated by some German hackers who found ways to link several separate international education and military webs illegally.
I read this years ago: The Cuckoo's Egg
Anyone interested in the history of the web and how it developed should read it.
It's a book published in 1983.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Puzzle-Palace-Intelligence-Organization/dp/0140067485
Read Puzzle Palace. While it predates Snowden by several decades, it's still probably the best book written about the organization.
You should try to understand an issue before you become outraged about it. Google, and every other telephone and internet company that does business in the US, must abide by the laws of the US. One of those laws permits the government the right to see information relevant to an investigation, if they first get a warrant from a judge. Google's system was designed to give access to only what they were legally required to show when a warrant was issued, not to allow warrant-less, widespread surveillance.
Of course, the sad fact is that since WWI many companies have been willing to allow warrant-less surveillance to the US government. Puzzle Palace describes some instances. However, there is no evidence that Google has done so.
Finally, IANAL but I believe that the answer to your last question is that there is no difference between US citizen and non-US citizen email in the context of a police investigation. The data is stored on a US server, and with the correct warrant issued by a judge the US government can get the right to see that data.
Anonymous is/was a small group of highly skilled hackers, that were loosley organized together and somewhat activist or "hacktivist". They did some notorious hacks and denial of service attacks, and other cyber attacks. As well as being given hacked info that others did to help them and to distribute the hacked info. They were also known as LulzSec a group that existed before, though that name is less familiar than the iconic "Anonymous" and not all members of LulzSec moved over to the new group
They also popularized the use of the Guy Fawkes mask, commonly known from the dystopian movie V for Vendetta.
Most or all of the original members of the small group were eventually caught and charged with various crimes, with quite little fanfare, they were caught pretty solidly.
After this, many other groups, related or not to the original group have also taken the "anonymous" title and headline as their names or who they represent, and often perform similar acts to the original group
A good source for reading up more on the group, its origins, its people, and its begining, fall, and re-rise: We Are Anonymous by Parmy Olson
>I'm pleasantly surprised to see The Warmth of Other Suns on there. Though it got a lot of publicity and was moved around in academic and literary circles, I haven't seen much public love for it. I read it last year and thought it was great, though a bit arduous. Wilkerson came to the university I attended soon after the book was published and gave a great lecture.
I completely understand why it hasn't gotten much love from the public - it's pretty long (but sssssso captivating and beautifully written).
>I've heard good things about Hillbilly Elegy and I've stayed at a bit of a distance.
>I was raised in the South, the Deep (sorta place where the grass is sharp to walk on because it's so bone-dry) South, though I haven't lived there for a bit. And while I understand the plight, having grown up in it and having most of my family still in it, I have a hard time with some of it.
>When I left the South, I moved outside of Flint, Michigan, another run-down, abandoned Rust-belt town, plagued by a dark history, near insurmountable corruption, and testy racial politics.
>This move definitely colored my approach to hearing from many of my family members that people like them have been forgotten when they give no sympathy to places like Flint. On top of this, many of these places have spent their time electing people who, while representing their moral/religious interests (on issues such as abortion, gay marriage, etc.), only preserve their declining economic state.
>I worked for a company where I mostly made workers' comp. payments to former employees, many of whom were from West Virginia and had one of a handful of diseases from their time at the company. When I spoke to them, they often complained that their healthcare (through the ACA) wasn't good enough (I agreed) and the evils of regulations, not recognizing that had more, or better, regulations been in place, perhaps their private employer wouldn't've had them doing work which would injure them so substantially.
>After the election, I heard so much about "Nobody was listening to their concerns," even though one candidate had policy for how to address changing economies and get people better healthcare and the other one lied to them about the mills coming back. I heard "We need to understand them," when some of us were bred in that and recognize that however little interest/sympathy "coastal elites" have for the struggling rust-belt, the struggling rust-belt has equally as little interest/sympathy for the "coastal elites."
>I'm sure Vance parses some of it in his book, but I've been hesitant to have a go, mostly because my reading list is so damn long as is. Strangers in Their Own Land looks pretty good, on a similar topic.
I was born and raised and still live in the South and I agree completely with your interpretation. The only thing I'll add is another book recommendation (haha) and that is Hunter S Thompson's Hell's Angels because of his pinpointed description of the "politics of revenge" that I think you alluded to. Strangers in Their Own Land is on my list for when I finish Hillbilly Elegy.
>I appreciate your optimistic view, though, around coalition building and the future. It's not, I'm afraid, one that I share. I was pessimistic about the future before the election and am even more so now.
I also completely understand the pessimism - I lived there during the Bush Jr years and it did nothing for me except lead me to the wellspring of depression. I refuse to allow something external, like the shit heads we have for political leaders today, drag me back there again. I won't give in to the temptation to dive into the void of nihilism because that just makes life easier for the shit heads, and I hope you and anyone else who feels the pull won't either. They might take our healthcare, clean environment, funding for the arts, and international standing, but I'll be damned if I let them take my soul (read as drive for humanist way of life, not the religious context of the word). Stay strong ❤
> Pro tip: If you're going to fuck with 1%'ers like that, be prepared to accept an ass kicking.
From the Wikipedia article on Hunter S. Thompson's 1967 book, Hell's Angels:
> Thompson remained close with the Angels for a year, but ultimately the relationship waned. It ended for good after several members of the gang gave him a savage beating or "stomping" over a remark made by Thompson to an Angel named Junkie George, who was beating his wife. Thompson said: "Only a punk beats his wife." The beating stopped only when senior members of the club ordered it. Thompson had essentially ended his time with the Angels by then, but he would later note in letters to friends and Sonny Barger that the members who had participated in the beating had not been those with whom he had most closely associated. He continued being fond of Barger and others in the club.
So, basically, yeah, this.
>I can and will say it, because despite what Tumblr would have you believe, it actually is true, for the most part. Don't confuse investigating a crime with placing blame and passing judgement.
When we're having a serious discussion about this -- and I'm going to insist that we do -- you need to accept we live in a world complicated and hairy enough where you can still point to all sorts of rape convictions and long prison sentences and still have it be true that the level of blame and complicity assigned to rape victims -- by default -- is disproportionately higher than the victim of many, many, many other crimes. Especially ones that are anywhere near the same ballpark of (psychological or physical) violence as rape.
If you can't, if you just aren't willing to wade into this with that much nuance and plastic thinking, then let's not bother.
>Not exactly, but I guess I don't understand what rape culture really is. Would you care to educate me? Honestly, I really am wondering.
Okay, fair enough.
Rape is a terrible thing. So much so that it's the Hitler of verbs. When you need to go to 'the worst person you can think of', you go Hitler. When you need to think of 'the worst verb you can think of', you don't go murder. You go rape. Right?
Rape is so heinous that when we hear that rapists (and child molesters) have a particularly unpleasant experience in prison, we think, "Fuck yeah other prisoner guys. Do that. Make it hell."
Rape, like child molestation, is so heinous that one of the many ways we as individuals deal with it, especially at first glance, is emotional distancing, denial, and minimization. This is the key point.
Surely you don't have a problem believing that the trope of familial minimization and denial of molestation is something that happens ever, right? Like, you can think of that Duggar scandal right away to summon up an example of that happening, right?
You can imagine a parent (perhaps easier if you tell yourself, a shitty parent) being in denial, in the veins of 'You're making that up', 'It wasn't that bad', 'He's sorry can we put it behind us', 'Look we'll make sure you're never alone with them, but..' I understand you can also imagine the opposite happening and someone, let's say a father, going to prison for a long time.
This is very, very similar to responses that people / groups / agencies / society often responds to rape victims with. "Are you sure it was rape? Maybe it just was ____" "Well you were walking around like that, what did you think was going to happen?" "You were walking around like that, I'm pretty sure you wanted to have sex but now you don't want to feel dirty." "Did you actually tell him no or just expect him to be a mind reader?"
I imagine you'll be tempted to say something like "Well come on!! It can be murky! It's not like other crimes! It's not like breaking someone's window, no one ever consents to having their window broken -- but people consent to having sex all the time, and rape is almost the same act as that legal activity, except a differing mental state! It's horrible if that happens to you, but cmon! Surely we should be able to ask questions to discern one from the other, since it's something so murky as to whether or not it happened!"
Well, okay. (Well. Not really okay, but..) But the problem is it it's even murkier than that, especially historically.
If you're a woman in 1930, and your husband wants to have sex with you, and you don't, and he slaps you around until you go still, and then forces himself onto you, that's pretty fucked up. Right?
But you know what's even more fucked up? It's not a crime.
Do you know what's further fucked up still? The word 'rape' doesn't even apply. I'm not merely saying, a cop won't take a report and check off a box that says 'raped'. I'm not merely saying your husband doesn't think he raped you. I'm not saying your mother or your friends won't think he raped you and it was your wifely duty.
You won't think he raped you.
You know something horrible happened, you know you were violated, but you yourself don't file it under rape.
You're a woman in 1930, and in your own mind, rape is something that a stranger does to you in an alley and that's it. Your husband raped you and you live in a society where not only is that not a crime, not only do you live in a society where you have to know most people will consider it your fault, you live in a society where you yourself don't count it as rape.
Now you're going to say 'Okay well that was 80 years ago'.
Well A) It wasn't just 80 years ago, if it was 1950, 1960, even 1970, you almost certainly still wouldn't have you yourself called it rape. Rape was, to a lesser and lesser extent, still something a strange man did to you at knife point.
And B) It was still legal in many parts of this country until 1989.
You're going to tell me that this society, where there was a giant, scotfree loophole for completely kicking-and-screaming raping a woman as long as she said 'I do' in a church at some point, as recently as 1989, has in those short couple of decades has reversed all of its inertia in terms of how shittily it treats that murkiness?
The ancestries of our civilization and society has, in its past, included times when soldiers sacking a town in the name of geopolitical manuevers considered raping the towns women to be part of their combat pay, and that was the acceptable way things were.
Slowly, through almost Sisyphean effort of moral reckoning, we got from there to the point where (again) as recently as 1989 it was no longer fucking legal to rape a woman because you paid for a marriage license.
And you think we're all good? That if anything the murkiness is now against the man's favor? You can't be.
That history, that murkiness, that eager to distance and deny and minimize, the way we supposedly-remember 'Oh hey being a victim is a powerful thing I could see why someone would lie about that' so so much more often with rape than any other crime (even though literally every crime has false reports).
Listen:
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/581/anatomy-of-doubt
Read:
http://www.amazon.com/Missoula-Rape-Justice-System-College/dp/0385538731
That's rape culture.
I obviously can't speak for the alleged victims in this case, but rape cases in general can be pretty damned complicated with regard to:
Even in cases where criminal investigators are called (IDK if they were involved at all here), it's often pretty hard to make an air-tight case that can be taken to prosecution. "Yeah, we had sex and that's my DNA you found, but it was totally consensual, and here's my plausible side of the story..."
So, I think some significant fraction of reported cases end up being adjudicated in a kangaroo court (if at all) -- more or less so that the institution can avoid non compliance with title IX (namely the "deliberate indifference" liability).
If you're interested in more background, you may want to pick up a copy of this: http://www.amazon.com/Missoula-Rape-Justice-System-College/dp/0385538731
Anyone with a brain who had ever read a book about the CIA or NSA would KNOW fucking KNOW that all those communications are monitored. Trump and his idiot know-nothing family deserve everything that happens to them from this point on.
Two books everyone should read.
The Puzzle Palace: Inside the National Security Agency, America's Most Secret Intelligence Organization
[Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA](
https://www.amazon.com/Legacy-Ashes-History-Tim-Weiner/dp/0307389006/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1495854882&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=leagecy+of+ashes)
We have hung spies in this country before. We should continue that practice.
Ha, I knew right away from the title this was about Sabu. Everyone who hasn't should read We are Anonymous if you are at all interested in the rise and fall of anonymous and lulzsec. Sabu plays a pivotal role in the events that unfold, eventually culminating with his arrest and subsequent informing.
Awesome, thanks for posting the quotes. I really should read the whole thing.
If I may add a couple of additional sub-topics for discussion:
>Carder-pretending-to-be-Anon: Hey, let's all DDoS this bank website in support of Occcupy Wall Street!
>Anons: *DDoS bank website
>Carder: *chuckles Lol, dumb skiddies! *hacks in while bank is distracted by DDoS, steals customer information
>Bank: We've been DDoS'd and hacked by Anonymous!
>LE: Anons, you're under arrest!
>Anons: But it was a social protest!
>Carder: *Heh heh *enjoys $$$$$$*
Should the Anons have any liability for being gullible skiddies?
Read [this] (http://www.amazon.com/We-Are-Anonymous-LulzSec-Insurgency/dp/0316213527) book if you get a chance.
Parmy Olson - We Are Anonymous: Inside the Hacker World of LulzSec, Anonymous, and the Global Cyber Insurgency (2013)
https://www.amazon.com/We-Are-Inside-LulzSec-Insurgency/dp/0316213527
I'd look into Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the 60s. New book by Tom O'Neill and the show seems to be nodding toward it in the ep 5 interview with Manson.
" Author and investigator Tom O’Neill has shed uncomfortable light on the Tenerelli case in a chapter of his new book “Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA and the Secret History of the Sixties” – a 550-page profound dive, 20 years in the making, into the plethora of inconsistencies and glaring holes punctuating the formal Manson narratives to date "
Actually there was an interview on NPR last week that i remember, someone wrote a book,
CIA and Charles Mansonor something similar, saying he had a close relationship with I think CIA or FBI, who were doing research on psychedelics and their influence on mind control / mkultra. It makes a connection that the tactics he used on his followers were identical to the tactics of mkultra.EDIT: Here's the book. "Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties"
https://www.amazon.com/Chaos-Charles-Manson-History-Sixties/dp/0316477559
For the background of these experiments see:
Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties
https://www.amazon.com/Chaos-Charles-Manson-History-Sixties/dp/0316477559
link to US Amazon page for this book:
https://www.amazon.com/Hells-Angels-Strange-Terrible-Saga/dp/0345410084/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1469656790&sr=1-1&keywords=hells+angels
If you're interested in the Hell's Angels in their heyday, then look nowhere else but Hunter S Thompson's madcap deconstruction
If you enjoyed that movie you should check out some of his books.
The curse of lono is one of my favorites. It's one of his most underrated pieces of literature imo: https://www.amazon.com/dp/3836548968/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awd_xs_dDpnybT6Y0QEV
Also the book about him hanging out with/pissing off the hells angels is considered one of his best works: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0345410084/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awd_xs_WEpnybFQCTV2Y
If you didn't find out about it by reading The Search for the Manchurian Candidate, you really should find a copy.
It's a great book in and of itself, but there's an added bonus. The book was subject to extensive censorship by the CIA prior to publication. Instead of suturing the remaining portions together into a lesser book, the author and publisher decided that it would be more meaningful to just leave blank spaces where the excised text had originally been, sometimes just a word or a line, sometimes large chunks.
That was awesome enough in itself, but it gets better. They then used any number of freedom of information requests to find the information that had been censored. They didn't get it all, but they did get a lot of it. Of course they put it back into the book, filling in parts of the blank spots, but they used bold type and different fonts so that you can still tell what had originally been censored. This way you can actually see what the CIA thought had to be censored and you can see each stage of it being returned to the text. Sometimes you can see why the stuff was ordered removed, sometimes it's ridiculous.
As far as shedding some real light on the CIA in that period there's just nothing to match it (or maybe it's in a tie with Inside the Company by Philip Agee, who was Mexico City station chief for the CIA before he decided it was a negative force in the world and wrote a book in which he named every covert agent he knew and revealed every operation he was privy to, refusing to subject the book to the type of censorship that the CIA applied to Manchurian Candidate).
http://www.amazon.com/Search-Manchurian-Candidate-Behavioral-Sciences/dp/0393307948/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1302055095&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/INSIDE-COMPANY-DIARY-Philip-Agee/dp/055326012X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1302056184&sr=1-1
A more serious addendum:
Carol Rutz's book on her experiences in MKULTRA/ARTICHOKE
And John Mark's book as well
There are many serial killers that are incredibly interesting, but my two favorite definetly have t be H.H. Holmes (credit to /u/Dr_Helicopter for posting the name first) and Elizabeth Báthory.
H.H. Holmes opened a hotel during the Chicago World Fair with the sole purpose of murdering it's inhabitants. It had a labyrinth of twisting halls and doors that went nowhere, its guests often ended up starving or being gassed to death. He would then sell their bodies to medical schools, which was a relatively common and unquestioned practice at the time.
Elizabeth Báthory of Transylvania was a female serial killer from the 1500's. Although not the very first, she was one of the first recorded serial murderers, and killed hundreds of young women before she died at the age of 54. Legend says that she bathed in the blood of her victims, as she thought it would bring a youthful appearance to her skin. However, this might have just been witness accounts saying that after she had finished torturing her victims she was so covered in gore that it appeared as though she had bathed in their blood. She has a pretty cool story, I can go into more detail if anyone is interested.
An extra just for fun: Ed Gein's story is more sad than brutal...he was considered a generally really nice guy, but had the unfortunate hobby of collecting body parts. Usually he would dig up dead bodies for this habit, but when the ground became too cold to dig, he turned to killing. He only has a death count of two people (Mary Hogan and Bernice Worden), but when he was apprehended he had:
Pretty cool, huh?
Edit: If you're interested in serial killers, I would suggest picking up a copy of Serial Killers: The Method and Madness of Monsters and Female Serial Killers: How and Why Women Become Monsters both by Peter Vronsky. He's a good writer, and they're both fabulously interesting. :)
You will read a book in a day/two days I'm telling you. It's too interesting and fucked up and true to put down.
Absolutely -
The Last Victim by Jason Moss This dude corresponds with Gacy (this is all true) it is definitely something to read, quite disturbing.
Gift of Fear by Gaven de Becker This due has worked with John Douglas. We read his book GoF along side Douglas'
Serial Killers and Mass Murderers by Nigel Cawthorne
Charles Manson's Autobiography Now I read this in 8th grade --- way too old for a 12 year old [young for my grade] um - I'm not positive this is what I read. Only because when I read it I had found it in the library in a dark corner and it was a solid red hardcover that just said "Charles Manson Autobiography" but I couldn't find anything else so I'm assuming this is it. It should be written from his perspective if it's the right one. (A lot of sex too)
Serial Killers: The Method and Madness of Monsters
yes, I have read all of these. And in searching for links for you I found that John Douglas released a book I had not read yet about internet crimes. Interesting, especially because the serial killer roaming around on Long Island, well the first four girls identified were Craigs List prostitutes. Anyway there's a couple more books I want to recommend but I have to check my bookcase (all the names start to blur after a while..)
Ooh, I LOVE The Stranger Beside Me. :D Give this one a go; it's absolutely wonderful (in a horrific kind of way.) It's very informative, and the writer has a really dry and kind of terrible sense of humour that manifests itself once in a while.
the only suggestion i have is "In Cold Blood" by Capote. it's non-fiction. his use of descriptive language, i feel, is unparalleled.
although not on your roster, i would also vouch for 1984. everyone should read it at least once in their life. it will give you a new perspective on things, particularly present day issues.
edit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_cold_blood
http://www.amazon.com/Cold-Blood-Truman-Capote/dp/0679745580/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1376609328&sr=1-1&keywords=in+cold+blood
Try In Cold Blood from Truman Capote. It’s nonfiction, but reads like a fiction novel (and this is coming from someone who prefers fiction). Very detailed - Capote spent a lot of time researching.
Without giving much away, I will tell you that it meets your criteria of a murder mystery set in a small town. It is set in the early ‘60s. The only differences from what you wanted is that the murder happens in Kansas, and it’s not your typical mystery because you learn very quickly who (most likely) did it - but not how and why. And there’s still some doubt about who exactly did it.
It’s a bit hard to get into at first, but trust me, it’s well-worth the read.
https://www.amazon.com/Trance-Formation-America-Cathy-OBrien/dp/0966016548
Good book, can find free pdf online. It’s basically about high level officials controlling kids with mk ultra.
There are at least two quite convincing books that point to the Ramsey's as being involved in Jonbenet's death.
Steve Thomas
Jim Kolar
Here is an old news link about the grand jury voting to indict.
Here is a wiki thing about the case I dont know how accurate it is.
I just saw this post, so you may have already found the info, but for any of our new members:
-My understanding is that the best single source in print is Kat Winter's book Case Files of the East Area Rapist / Golden State Killer, as it apparently has a number of pages devoted specifically to the VR.
-The best source in audio is the "12-26-75" podcast at 12-26-75.com.
-The best online webpage is the Podcast VR Google map, which features Google map push pins showing the sites of incidents with very, very brief descriptions of said events.
-There is no sufficient VR-themed stuff available through the video medium, although 12-26-75 does in fact have a YouTube channel, for what it's worth...
So, in summary, you should probably stick with Winters for the most info.
These are Winters' two books:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0999458108/
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0999458116/
I still have all my books from that class, and it was a decade ago! Keep in mind that many are rather dry because they're from a historical detail standpoint versus something Dan Brown would write (but the professor was just amazing and made it so interesting).
The Lincoln Murder Conspiracies
Case Closed: Lee Harvey Oswald and the Assassination of JFK. We did a bit of critiquing of the author here as well.
Conspiracy Theories: Secrecy and Power in American Culture. Looks like there's a newer edition that has 9/11, but this one covered conspiracies
The Paranoid Style in American Politics
As far as what I'd recommend, the first two are probably the most engaging, especially the JFK one. I also enjoyed the third one, mostly because it had a little bit about everything, including a conspiracy about Fox Mulder from X-Files and I love that show haha
Loved how one of the guys brought up the Posner book. That did it for me as well. Hits every major theory head on and goes into great historical detail.
https://www.amazon.com/Case-Closed-Harvey-Oswald-Assassination/dp/1400034620
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Communists are invested in the idea of violent revolution, so yes.
Parts of Douglas Preston's and Mario Spezi's The Monster of Florence seemed hard to fathom. Not their theories about the killer, mind you, but the sheer ridiculousness and awfulness of the Italian judicial system. The absurdity of their situation reached Catch-22 heights.
there was recently a well publicized paper that touched on some of this, about how cutting taxes for the wealthy and cutting social programs shifts cost to more need for police patrols etc, there was even a term used I think, not "defense spending" but something along those lines that refereed to this extra "protection" spending needed to control the masses -- you don't happen to know the paper? why is it so hard to understand that when people don't have certain basic needs it will always manifest itself in some way.
I want to read this -- although the author who runs http://exiledonline.com/ is sometimes too left for even me I think it would be a good read.
The last time I looked for Kazcynski's books on amazon there was nothing. Now there is a title:
Technological Slavery: The Collected Writings of Theodore J. Kaczynski, a.k.a. "The Unabomber"
The cover is a cutaway of a box bomb photo. I wonder if anybody would get alarmed if you pulled that out and started reading the thing on the airplane or on the other side of the security check-in at the airport.
The Alston Chase book is really good and there were long excerpts published in the Atlantic which you can see online. The part I will never forget is he went to a shrink when he was at U. Michigan and told the shrink he wanted to sex-change because:
> "only by becoming a woman could he hope to touch one".
p 305 on my copy
Ouch
Absolutely this. Spot on.
> Use TOR or something to read it.
Oh, just read it on the Washington Post website. Do you really think swat teams will descend on you if don't anonymise your access? (and do you really think TOR will keep you safe if they seriously want to know what you're up to anyway?)
Or you can buy it on Amazon, and get several other excellent works in the same volume.
His violent methods were deluded and inexcusable (not least because they were always doomed to fail, and his targets were pointlessly random,) but his analysis is some of the most insightful I have ever read. Everyone should read him as part of a balanced political education, whether they ultimately choose to agree with him or not.
Because that is how we learn to use our brains (not by the thought-free yammering of politically correct slogans like too many of the left engage in.)
I know the ideas of balance, challenging one's own viewpoints and reading anything originating outside the progressive bubble are anathema to the leftards who've been running the asylum lately, but that is exactly the problem. And it's completely unhinged and infantilised our society over the course of the last several generations.
There's no coming back from this I'm afraid - the damage is done, and it's terminal.
Dr. Mary's Monkey
Many vaccines such as the mmr vaccine do more harm than good.
I recommend reading this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Dr-Marys-Monkey-Cancer-Causing-Assassination/dp/1937584593
>This is the best kept secret of the last 60 years with more subplots and surprise situations (with no endings in sight). Haslam is a very modest and humble man calling for what should be an obvious formal investigation into many issues still unresolved. He claims he's NOT the investigation, but his exposure is enough that if one reads the work entirely with an open mind, they will understand why 60 Minute TV Magazine Producers call this the "story of the century." Haslam introduces us to an unsolved murder of one of the leading cancer researchers of the last 75 years, Mary Sherman. Her autopsy was sealed for around 30 years, and Haslams explanation of how she died makes far more sence than the official police report written under questionable police procedure. Most importantly, Haslam introduces us to the dark side of the Polio Vaccine and the complications it went through during it's development and the lasting problems we are now struggling with because of it -- the SV-40 VIRUS. It's all over your interest, but ask your doctor or a med school faculty doctor about the SV-40 Virus, and you'll learn, they know nothing about it. Their education and training has been so carefully compartmentalized and they know nothing of these issues, but they are all over the internet if you choose to look. Haslam teaches us about many doctors who lost their careers trying to blow the whistle on these issues.
In short the polio vaccine made from monkey kidneys carried the SV-40 virus which remains dormant inside baby boomers who received the polio vaccine until the immune system is weakened to the point where the SV-40 Virus can transform into one of the major cancer's: lung, breast, soft tissue, bone cancer, etc. In the early 50's 22,000 new cases of polio was called an epidemic, and Ed Haslam now ask, how come around a million new cases of cancer each year is NOT being called a cancer epidemic? I think it's a fair question.
Hopefully, you will read Haslam's work and get your family, friends and associates to read it. Main stream media had a chance to share this with us in 2000 when 60 Minutes had spent more time and money on this story than any other segment of the TV Magazine's history according to their producer, but the network producers would not permit the program to air. Hmmm? Don't you want to know why? Read DR MARY's MONKEY, and you'll begain to have your eyes openened. Edward T. Haslam and Judyth Vary Baker are modern American heros, and only until you have read their works will you even begin to understand why I hold them in such high esteem. Only until you read their works can you begain to understand the price they have paid, the risk they bear; so you and I can learn the truth and demand something be done about it for us, our children, and our children's children to the nth generation.
If we have evidence they put cancer causing viruses in vaccines back in the 60s, what do you think they are sneaking into vaccines now?
Only the most crucial diseases should possibly be vaccinated for, and even then it's questionable if it's worth it given immune system damage and other side effects.
Not to mention, herd immunity is a total myth.
Here's another fantastic link:
https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/
Syncronicity.... Because of the Judyth Vary Baker AMA that was scheduled for last week I just picked up Dr. Mary's Monkey: How the Unsolved Murder of a Doctor, a Secret Laboratory in New Orleans and Cancer-Causing Monkey Viruses Are Linked to Lee Harvey Oswald and the JFK Assassination and Emerging Global Epidemics by Edward Haslam.
How's it goin? How was church Sunday?
Your favorite animal is the bonobo. You know, because username.
From your list
From my list
Hi!
I will say.. Panda bears. :3
Your list!
My list! (Used please!)
After loads of reading on the bus to work every day, here follows my reading list for military aviation:
Modern
Vietnam
WWII
Overall/Other
Bonus non-military aviation
I highly second the recommendations of Snow Crash, Cryptonomicon, and Diamond Age. I would also recommend:
Can I give you a list? Imma give you a list with a little from each category. I LOVE books and posts like this!
Non-fiction or Books About Things:
The Lost City of Z: In 1925, the legendary British explorer Percy Fawcett ventured into the Amazon jungle, in search of a fabled civilization. He never returned. Over the years countless perished trying to find evidence of his party and the place he called “The Lost City of Z.” In this masterpiece of narrative nonfiction, journalist David Grann interweaves the spellbinding stories of Fawcett’s quest for “Z” and his own journey into the deadly jungle, as he unravels the greatest exploration mystery of the twentieth century. Cumberbatch will play him in the movie version of this.
Stiff: The Curious Lives of Human Cadavers: Hilariously gross and just super interesting. Her writing is like a non-fiction Terry Pratchett. Everything she's written is great, but this one is my favorite.
Devil in the White City: All about HH Holmes and his murder hotel during the Chicago World's Fair. Incredibly well-written and interesting.
The Outlaw Trail: Written in 1920 by the first superintendent of Capitol Reef National Park (aka, the area around Robber's Roost). He went around interviewing the guys who were still alive from the original Wild Bunch, plus some of the other outlaws that were active during that time. Never read anything else with actual interviews from these guys and it's a little slice of life from the end of the Wild West.
Fiction, Fantasy, Sci-Fi:
Here I'm only going to give you the less known stuff. You can find Sanderson (light epic fantasy), Pratchett (humor / satire fantasy), Adams (humor fantasy), etc easily in any bookstore. They are fantastic and should be read, but they are easy to find. I suggest:
The Cloud Roads: Martha Wells is an anthropologist and it shows in her world building in every series. She creates societies instead of landscapes. These are very character-driven and sometimes emotional.
The Lion of Senet: Jennifer Fallon starts a great political thriller series with this book. If you like shows like House of Cards or things where there's a lot of political plotting, sudden twists, and a dash of science v. religion, then you'll love these.
The Book of Joby: Do you want to cry? This book will make you cry. Mix arthurian legend with some God & Devil archetypes and it's just this very powerful story. Even though it deals with religious themes and icons, I wouldn't say it's a religious book. Reads more like mythology.
On Basilisk Station: Awesome military space opera. Really good sci-fi.
Grimspace: Pulpy space opera. Brain bubble gum instead of serious reading. But that's fun sometimes too!
Because despite the privacy issues of previous bills, cyberattacks are an ongoing problem, especially for U.S. companies, and solutions of some sort are needed.
Right now it's not even clear if a company like Google could legally cooperate with a company like Microsoft on detecting and responding to cyberattacks on their networks, and these problems are not theoretical.
For all that you guys are worried about NSA, don't forget that there are other nations with perfectly good foreign intelligence agencies, such as Russia and China, and these nations have been trying to break into U.S. company networks since the Internet existed.
It's hard enough to defend corporate networks when you have employees who will click on random stupid emails and when finding software vulnerabilities seems to be simply an issue of digging for long enough, without the problems introduced by preventing companies from cooperating. In the military we'd call this "defeat in detail", but you probably could see this in those fancy online multiplayer games too, where your team cooperates to gang up on one opponent at a time to bring them all down. It works with networks too, since we're all interconnected to each other, we are as vulnerable as our weakest link.
This is doubly troubling because the U.S. is almost completely dependent on cyber technologies in a way that many other nations are not, so the U.S. has much more to lose than nations like Russia and China.
The fact that previous bills have been used to try to enforce copyrights from the MPAA/RIAA and other such shenanigans has never meant that there wasn't a need to give U.S. businesses and ISPs the ability to defend themselves (since the U.S. government can't protect them by itself). If they've finally delivered a bill that focuses on that and only on that I'd probably support it; it will have been long overdue.
This book any good? I've got the sample sitting on my kindle but haven't actually cracked it open.
I was personally a fan of Cuckoo's Egg by Clifford Stool, as well.
The dysfunctionality of our society is obviously ANYTHING but accidental.
The article suggests that these experiments provided chemical substances that would create negative symptoms, not only in society at large, but designed to do so within every type of personality in that society-resulting, in addition to the symptoms you cite, the IMPOSSIBILITY of such desperate personalities ever successfully working together-eventually being unable to communicate effectively on ANY LEVEL.”]
Drugs to transform individuals…and even, by implication, society.
Drug research going far beyond the usual brief descriptions of MKULTRA.
The intention is there, in the record:
A CIA document was included in the transcript of the 1977 US Senate Hearings on MKULTRA, the CIA’s mind-control program.
The document is found in Appendix C, starting on page 166. It’s simply labeled “Draft,” dated 5 May 1955: http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/history/e1950/mkultra/appendixc.htm (note: scroll down to #123-125 in the document).
It states: “A portion of the Research and Development Program of [CIA’s] TSS/Chemical Division is devoted to the discovery of the following materials and methods:”
What followed was a list of hoped-for drugs and their uses.
First, a bit of background: MKULTRA did not end in 1962, as advertised.
It was shifted over to the Agency’s Office of Research and Development.
John Marks is the author of the groundbreaking book, Search for the Manchurian Candidate, which exposed MKULTRA. [https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0393307948/]
Marks told me a CIA representative informed him that the continuation of MKULTRA, after 1962, was carried out with a greater degree of secrecy, and he, Marks, would never see a scrap of paper about it.
I’m printing below, the list of the 1955 intentions of the CIA regarding their own drug research.
The range of those intentions is stunning.
Some of my comments gleaned from studying the list:
The CIA wanted to find substances which would “promote illogical thinking and impulsiveness.”
Serious consideration should be given to the idea that psychiatric medications, food additives, herbicides, and industrial chemicals (like fluorides) would eventually satisfy that requirement.
The CIA wanted to find chemicals that “would produce the signs and symptoms of recognized diseases in a reversible way.”
This suggests many possibilities—among them the use of drugs to fabricate diseases and thereby give the false impression of germ-caused epidemics.
The CIA wanted to find drugs that would “produce amnesia.”
Ideal for discrediting whistleblowers, dissidents, certain political candidates, and other investigators. (Scopolamine, for example.)
The CIA wanted to discover drugs which would produce “paralysis of the legs, acute anemia, etc.”
A way to make people decline in health as if from diseases.
The CIA wanted to develop drugs that would “alter personality structure” and thus induce a person’s dependence on another person.
How about dependence in general?
For instance, dependence on institutions, governments?
The CIA wanted to discover chemicals that would “lower the ambition and general working efficiency of men.”
Sounds like a general description of the devolution of society.
As you read the list yourself, you’ll see more implications/possibilities.
Here, from 1955, are the types of drugs the MKULTRA men at the CIA were looking for.
The following statements are direct CIA quotes:
A portion of the Research and Development Program of TSS/Chemical Division is devoted to the discovery of the following materials and methods:
At the end of this 1955 CIA document, the author [unnamed] makes these remarks:
“In practice, it has been possible to use outside cleared contractors for the preliminary phases of this [research] work.
However, that part which involves human testing at effective dose levels presents security problems which cannot be handled by the ordinary contractors.
“The proposed [human testing] facility [deletion] offers a unique opportunity for the secure handling of such clinical testing in addition to the many advantages outlined in the project proposal.
The security problems mentioned above are eliminated by the fact that the responsibility for the testing will rest completely upon the physician and the hospital. [one line deleted] will allow [CIA] TSS/CD personnel to supervise the work very closely to make sure that all tests are conducted according to the recognized practices and embody adequate safeguards.”
In other words, this was to be ultra-secret.
No outside contractors at universities for the core of the experiments, which by the way could be carried forward for decades.
A secret in-house facility.
Over the years, more facilities could be created.
If you examine the full range of psychiatric drugs developed since 1955, you’ll see that a number of them fit the CIA’s agenda.
Speed-type chemicals to addle the brain over the long term, to treat so-called ADHD.
Anti-psychotic drugs, AKA “major tranquilizers,” to render patients more and more dependent on others (and government) as they sink into profound disability and incur motor brain damage.
And of course, the SSRI antidepressants, like Prozac and Paxil and Zoloft, which produce extreme and debilitating highs and lows—and also push people over the edge into committing violence.
These drugs drag the whole society down into lower and lower levels of consciousness and action.
If that’s the goal of a very powerful and clandestine government agency…it’s succeeding.
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2016/11/29/cia-mkultra-drugs-to-take-down-the-nation/#comment-192948
I love learning about serial killers and murders. My sister got me this book. I really enjoyed reading it. I went to UC Santa Cruz where the Santa Cruz Coed Killer, Edmund Kemper, murdered some girls from UCSC. I even asked a professor who was teaching during that time in Santa Cruz and he told me he wasn't worried about being murder that he was more likely to die on highway 17. I even visited the bar where he would hang out at and talk to the police. It was right next to this place that sold good pupusas. I even found his house. I never went to the place where he used to live, but it was all interesting. I always watch documentaries and read books on serial killers. You should read my friend Dahmer. I haven't read it, but I want to. They recently turned it into a movie.
So I'm a little late for this, OP. I will say none of this is your fault. Your son is, far as I can tell, a textbook psychopath. You didn't make him that way.
Now, I'm not going to suggest your son is anywhere near on the level of the people I'm about to mention, but he shares certain characteristics that are telling. Namely the inability to separate fantasy from lived experience, a complete disregard for consequences, and a sexual obsession with dominance and control.
I recently read this. That, on top of my general interest in...how do I put this? "Abnormal people", has given me more knowledge about the darker habits of certain individuals then I ever wanted or needed. A recurring theme in the lives of serial killers is a fetishistic obsession with violence and control. The rape fantasies, the weird incest shit, the obsession with young girls, all that comes from the same place. Somewhere along the line your son started to associate sex with domination rather than something loving. He probably enjoys things like stealing underwear or taking pictures of underage girls and shit more because he knows it's wrong then because he doesn't. It's possible he gets off on flouting societal standards and spitting in the face of good taste.
Usually this sort of behavior (keep in mind however I'm not a shrink, so don't take my word for it) has its roots in a deep, profound, insecurity on the part of the individual. For example serial killer Andrei Chikatilo blamed his murders on his inability to get an erection with women. Ed Kemper thought the living would never love him, so he figured the only way he could get laid was to kill somebody.
There's a lot of factors that go into making a psychopath. Some of it genetics, some of it is environment. In your case your son stumbled into an environment on the internet where hatred, violence, and abuse were conflated with something positive.
I don't know what could help in your situation. I'm tempted to say you should cut this guy off entirely, but if he's living with somebody he met on one of these forums that's a recipe for him getting involved in some seriously sick shit. Your son, again, seems to be some manner of psychopath. Lack of empathy or remorse, manipulative behavior, extreme internal fantasy life, disregard for social norms, etc etc. Those are all markers of that shit. He needs help. And not a therapist, not even a psychiatrist. Somebody who's experienced in dealing with people who are like this. I'm not saying this because you should be in his life (indeed, keep him the fuck away from your family), I'm saying this because this is obviously a disturbed individual and for the rest of the world's sake he needs a check on his worst impulses.
Beafka, the problem I often find with nonfiction books are that they're written so dryly. In Cold Blood, by Truman Capote Escapes that stigma by having Capote's innate talents as a writer. Though it is very much clouded by his vices as a person, it is still considered True Crime.
Natural Born Killers. I think it's interesting for the dynamic of a couple who are both into the killing.
Not exactly about a serial killer but In Cold Blood by Truman Capote is a very compelling account of the brutal murder of Kansas family. It reads like a work of fiction, but is very well researched and accurate. The movie, Capote is also very good but it is more about the writing of the book than the book itself. Also, Philip Seymor Hoffman does an amazing job as Truman Capote.
Well if you are into true crime at all, then two that jump to mind are In Cold Blood by Truman Capote and The Devil in the White City. The first is an older book written about a small town murder while the latter is about the serial killer H. H. Holmes. Both are fantastic reads despite their subject matter.
Speaking of serial killers, Gary Stewart makes a compelling argument in his book The Most Dangerous Animal of All that his biological father might have been the Zodiac Killer. What started out as a simple story of an adopted son trying to find his biological parents turns into a quest of discovery of a murderer. Many "experts" on the subject aren't sure about Stewart's claims, but his discoveries make a compelling argument.
Lastly, Unbroken by Laura Hillenbrand was recently made into a pretty decent movie, and In Harm's Way: The Sinking of the U.S.S. Indianapolis is often featured on shark week and will soon have a movie made as well. Both are fascinating WWII-related reads that seem to cross the line from being biographical to novelized due to the content and excellent writing.
I can't find original news articles, but there were a series of robberies in Indianapolis when I was growing up. The robbers would bind the victims with duct tape, and slit their throats on the way out. One of the robberies was of a toy store at closing time. Another was a home invasion where they killed a friend-of-a-friend from high school.
I thought about those killings a lot in 2000 when a pair of robbers in Queens tied up seven Wendy's employees, stole about $2400, and shot every one of them in the head.. It's one thing to talk about "leaving no witnesses" in a crime movie, but in real life I don't think it's the product of that sort of calculation. Especially since there are other, higher-yielding/less-violent types of theft, I think that what drives one person to tie up another and slaughter them like an animal is a long-festering sadistic impulse.
This is a minority of robberies. Most thefts are committed by some fuckup who needs quick cash. I'm actually impressed how rarely stickups end in bloodshed. But these aren't isolated incidents either. You can find some horrible stories by googling robbery + "execution style". Also, there's a book with a similar story.
I'm a little baffled by your assertion that violent criminals are imaginary.
Here are some names. You can find Youtube videos of most of these people giving testimony if you search their name.
Cathy O'Brien's book claiming abuse by Clintons: https://www.amazon.com/Trance-Formation-America-Cathy-OBrien/dp/0966016548/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484860704&sr=8-1&keywords=cathy+o%27brien
Epstein's co-abusers and victims, the latter redacted since they were under age: http://gawker.com/here-is-pedophile-billionaire-jeffrey-epsteins-little-b-1681383992
Many of the court documents with testimony about the blackmail ring are available if you search.
Fiona Barnett, abused by Ninth Gate members, including Nicole Kidman's father: http://illuminatiwatcher.com/nicole-kidmans-father-satanic-pedo-ring/
And then there's the guy who posted on Voat and Reddit that he and another teenager were raped by Alefantis of Comet Ping Pong. It was censored in minutes from both sites. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1576050
Everyone should see Cathy O'Brien's story as well. A very good starting point for people new to MKUltra.
Edit: She has a book as well. And I should also mention Bill Cooper's book from 1991. People are mentioning that one a lot in light of recent events.
read "trance formation of america" by Kathy O'Brien and Mark Phillips.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0966016548?ie=UTF8&tag=qbitcc-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0966016548
here's a video about it. http://qbit.cc/mk-ultra-in-canada-secret-mind-control-experiments-on-humans-vid/
there's more like this on my blog.
Interesting and helpful to my understanding - thanks for this. I may or may not agree with the conclusion, but spelling it out is how you greatly increase your risk of getting sued for slander. Foreign Faction laid out the evidence, but refrained from a final conclusion statement to avoid litigation.
He's a police chief and author. He's best known for this book:
Foreign Faction
I believe Oswald acted alone.
See Case Closed for an extensive debunking of alternative theories.
This is a good read, and it really shows how awful the Italian justice system was. https://www.amazon.com/Monster-Florence-Douglas-Preston/dp/1455573825
GWB(and Co.) lied so bad The California AG that prosecuted Charles Mansion thinks GW should be charged with murder.
This book might be more interesting that I thought if it's as you described.
Don't forget about this book too.
Impeachment is one thing - the murder charges will be where the real fun starts.
I've not read it but I heard about the book "the prosecution of GWB for murder" has the information you are looking for: http://www.amazon.com/Prosecution-George-W-Bush-Murder/dp/159315481X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1255061368&sr=8-1. As I understand it the book is a very serious, scholarly and legally sound description of how to mount such a prosecution.
Mental health problems doesn't mean "mentally ill", dissociative disorder etc. it can also include issues like depression.
> Suicides spiked in Japan in the 90s and 00s after their economic wave from the 70s and 80s finally crashed.
Which is also when homicides in the US spiked. Mark Ames argues that economics also factors into school and workplace "rage" violence.
“[Going Postal] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/1932360824/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_WOMfAb38J2T68)” - by Mark Ames Milton’s manifesto.
I just leave it here
The phenomenon is easily found in history.
A clear example would be the conduct of black slaves during the plantation slavery age of North America. The slaves would go so far as to fight other slaves to protect their master, despite common sense dictating that they should instead uprise against him.
bibliography:
http://www.amazon.com/Going-Postal-Rebellion-Workplaces-Columbine/dp/1932360824/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1290383000&sr=8-2
David Skrbina, a professor of philosophy at the University of Michigan, Dearborn kept up a correspondence with Kaczynski (while he was in prison) for years, collected his responses and published them in this book:
Technological Slavery: The Collected Writings of Theodore J. Kaczynski, a.k.a. "The Unabomber"
Technological Slavery: The Collected Writings of Theodore J. Kaczynski
http://www.amazon.com/Technological-Slavery-Collected-Kaczynski-k/dp/1932595805/
http://www.libgen.info/view.php?id=535770
"Following a trail of police records, FBI files, cancer statistics, and medical journals, this revealing book presents evidence of a web of medical secret-keeping that began with the handling of evidence in the JFK assassination and continued apace, sweeping doctors into cover-ups of cancer outbreaks, contaminated polio vaccine, the arrival of the AIDS virus, and biological weapon research using infected monkeys."
https://www.amazon.com/Dr-Marys-Monkey-Cancer-Causing-Assassination/dp/1937584593
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The book; Dr Mary's Monkey
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I haven't read this one yet (just bought it) but Devil In The White City by Erik Larson looks like it's going to be good.
oh I like your taste :)
For true crime, I recommend the best of the best, IMO... Helter Skelter
If you want to combine that with a little more history (not really fiction), try Devil in the White City
Murder mysteries, I personally like James Ellroy though I have heard complaints about his style from lot of people.
My favorite historical fiction is usually "alternate" in some way, but if you don't mine war stories, try these -- easily the best historical interpretation of the Civil War.
the only one I would have to look into or ask around for are the psych books... those aren't my usual fare :)
The other replies have shown you what it is used for in astronomy. If you want a fascinating real-world example of what else it is used for, check out Clifford Stoll's book The Cuckoo's Egg:
>Cliff Stoll was an astronomer turned systems manager at Lawrence Berkeley Lab when a 75-cent accounting error alerted him to the presence of an unauthorized user on his system. The hacker's code name was "Hunter"—a mysterious invader who managed to break into U.S. computer systems and steal sensitive military and security information. Stoll began a one-man hunt of his own: spying on the spy. It was a dangerous game of deception, broken codes, satellites, and missile bases—a one-man sting operation that finally gained the attention of the CIA . . . and ultimately trapped an international spy ring fueled by cash, cocaine, and the KGB.
PBS did a really cheesy (but good) documentary of his book if you want a taste before you dive all the way in, but the book is better.
That's your own fault – all of this has been documented and explained for years before Snowden started his data leaking. Someone that seems to be well-respected by lots of Snowden followers is James Bamford. Check out his books – any of them, but I'd start with The Puzzle Palace[1] – and you'll read about data collection programs that date back to Black Chamber[2][3] and analog recording of phone conversations through phone cable routers. Incredible books that I enjoyed reading, and anyone seriously interested in intelligence/security studies should read, too.
It's nothing new. Just because you didn't read the book doesn't mean it isn't out there. I wouldn't dare dispute that Snowden has given these topics a higher profile than they've ever had, but I would be equally reluctant to give him credit for exposing the existence of sophisticated data collection programs. It's an absolutely essential dialogue to have and I'm glad that the country is engaged in it, but Snowden is not the savior or intellectual that people are making him out to be.
You're right that there's nothing to prove that the content of every call in the US is being monitored. There is evidence that every call entering or leaving the US has been monitored since the 70s, and we know that they sometimes monitor people with three degrees of separation from a suspect, but they aren't saying if that means metat-data or actual phone calls.
What's old is new again... 1983 book published on NSA's intelligence gathering The Puzzle Palace. James Bamford has a couple of follow up books from 2007/2008 also.
http://www.amazon.com/American-Black-Chamber-Bluejacket-Books/dp/1591149894/ref=sr_1_1/189-5393201-2174227?ie=UTF8&qid=1414715465&sr=8-1&keywords=the+black+chamber
And
http://www.amazon.com/The-Puzzle-Palace-Intelligence-Organization/dp/0140067485/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1414715506&sr=8-1&keywords=puzzle+palace
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This book: "The Puzzle Palace", was written in 1983 and is still amazing today. At that time, the source indicates that it took 14 acres of cooling equipment to keep the NSA's computers from overheating (as I remember).
The worst part is that one of his novels, The Puzzle Palace, shares its title with a nonfiction book about the NSA by James Bamford which happens to be one of the best books written about the NSA... so now you have to be careful when mentioning it, so people don't confuse it with the Dan Brown novel (which is also about the NSA, 'The Puzzle Palace' being one of the real nicknames for the agency)
1% in gun ownership correlates with 0.9% rise in firearm homicide rate
Australia's buyback program was incredible successful in saving lives.
Buying back 3,500 guns per 100,000 people correlated with a 74 percent drop in gun suicides.
Robbery and assault is similar in other countries, but American violence is the highest.
[America doesn't really have a significantly higher rate of crime compared to similar countries. But that crime is much likelier to be lethal: American criminals just kill more people than do their counterparts in other developed countries. And guns appear to be a big part of what makes this difference. They go on later in the book with recommendations. A response to lethal violence in the U.S. should include widening the punishment gap between non-violent burglary and armed robbery. It should also include a wide variety of strategies to make crime safer in the U.S., says Zimring.These would include serious efforts to reduce hand gun ownership and use, environmental deterrents to robbers and violent assaults--such as cashless buses and bullet-proof vests--and training potential crime victims to minimize the chances that violent crime will end in death--such as not resisting a robber. ]
(https://www.amazon.com/Crime-Is-Not-Problem-Violence/dp/0195131053)
No worries - always fair to ask for sources. That comes from a study from UC Berkley. Hard to find the original source that's not behind a paywall or without logging in. Here are a few options for you:
If you're interested, here's a really good source (Amazon link, but your library probably can get it):
https://www.amazon.com/Crime-Is-Not-Problem-Violence/dp/0195131053
There are articles about this as well, I can dig one up if you don't want to read the book. Cheers.
Check out this book: https://www.amazon.com/Crime-Is-Not-Problem-Violence/dp/0195131053. America's problem isn't crime, or gangs. It's guns. Take a look at the crime rate per capita: http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Total-crimes-per-1000. Yet the lethality of violent crimes in the US is much, much higher. Why? Guns. It keeps coming back to that, despite the misinterpretation of facts by you. Did you stop to think about why more gun-related crime is happening in these big cities? It's because they have more guns. You mention gun control in these areas. There are so many loopholes though - take a look at how proper gun control works in other countries, say, the ones that you've previously mentioned. Canada prohibits fully automatic weapons, short-barrel handguns, military rifles, and restricts some semi-autos. Switzerland bans fully automatic weapons, and each gun requires an individual license. For self-defense, gun owners must demonstrate the need and pass an exam. Germany requires an individual license for each gun, and gun owners must carry gun insurance. Guns may only be used on private property, and must securely store the gun. So I ask again, what's different? The number of guns, which is directly tied to gun control laws.
What you're describing is pretty impractical in terms of implementation; a total elimination of economic differences requires a planned economy to the degree which doesn't exist in western society. I daresay you'd assume that things are more equal in Europe, but other than homicides, their crime rate is similar to the US.
It's easy to blame capitalism for crime and poverty, but it's also untrue. I also notice blaming social class as the factor at play, not poverty. Poverty rates have plummeted globally as the result of capitalism. If you're arguing that the factors which create crime are social, not economic, then economic equality won't solve that by your own standards.
I don't think crime is the result of a (conscious or otherwise) uprising of class, rather an opportunistic occurrence whereby the economically limited person can make a substantial increase in net worth by very little effort. It's worth mentioning that most crimes occur within the same communities in which the criminals reside.
I was momentarily excited to see a link in your post, assuming it was a source to any of your claims, but it was instead a link back to one of your own posts.
>Again, this presumes that a vast number of DGUs involve people stopping a perpetrator under threat of death.
I guess you aren't reading my replies since I have said, multiple times across multiple posts, that I am referring to serious crimes including rapes and assaults, not just homicide.
>"only assume 50%", insinuating that half is a reasonably small amount - I'd argue that to be an extremely high percentage
50% is a reasonable number for serious crimes and it is especially reasonable given the massive latitude I've given your side of the argument. I have taken the numbers for Defensive Gun Use from an openly hostile publication giving you the lowest possible estimate, I have disregarded that an EXTREMELY large number of gun homicides every year are committed by criminals killing other criminals, I have included in gun deaths those that were ruled accidents and justifiable shootings by police officers, and I have even included suicides just to placate your claim that guns increase suicide rates despite the fact that US suicide numbers are below Japan, South Korea, Finland, and France (as well as 46 other nations) which means that you think the US would fall even further in the suicides per capita ranking without any guns, how much further? Would there be 50% fewer suicides? Because that would put us as one of the lowest suicide rates in the entire world, strange for a country with so much socio-economic inequality and large regions of poverty but if we accept your argument that suicides would drop dramatically then we're forced to accept that the US should have one of the lowest suicide rates in the world without guns.
>You're also presuming that "gun violence" only equates to deaths, leaving out the rest of violent crime committed with guns.
Other crimes aren't particularly relevant since the US doesn't have significantly more crime than other wealthy countries and actually has less violent crime than many western countries, including the UK with the exception of gun homicides.
>a perusal of /r/dgu
You keep saying this like it means something. I don't know what your point is supposed to be. It's like you're arguing from a fantasy world where you think people should allow themselves to be attacked and hope for the best rather than defend themselves with a gun. If you are attacked you do not wait and see if you "need" a gun to defend yourself. You don't wait and hope the attacker is going to beat you half to death and put you in the hospital before you decide to shoot them. If someone attacks you, you shoot, if you do not wish to be shot then do not attack people. Your repeated argument that it's not mostly little old ladies defending themselves isn't relevant at all and even if it was relevant your casual browsing of a subreddit doesn't constitute a reliable evaluation of any kind of claim at all.
I've put a lot of effort into trying to have a conversation with you about this, including sources and detailed explanations, you have linked to your own post as if it was meaningful and to another subreddit. You repeatedly proclaim things as facts without any supporting evidence, and you conveniently ignore huge swaths of the discussion when it suits you.
Thanks for the conversation, it gave me a lot of data to play with and I may consider starting a little blog based on what I learned today but unless you come back with some sources, some reasonable replies to the core arguments, and a distinct lack of "my opinion is a fact" comments, I'm done replying now.
These guys are a bunch of idiots! Seriously, 4chan is someone? Not only that but password app? Really? Even before I took cybercrime I knew it wasn't something so simple as a app. They are the worst at explaining how someone gets hacked. There are many many ways to get into someones account. Social engineering is the best way than to just guess someones password. They should really read We are anonymous or even look up how people found out they got hacked when a white hat hacker told them how they did it.
It's not my opinion it's fact. This book does a great job of telling the whole story. I totally recommend it.
> As a side note, it was Jack Nicholson's house where Roman Polanski raped a 13 year old girl.
This will be a good book for you to put few more puzzles in place:
https://www.amazon.com/Chaos-Charles-Manson-History-Sixties/dp/0316477559
Chaos? Good luck with your search if this is not it!
It's a great read, I highly recommend it.
Edit: I don't care to copy the exact quotes from the book because it'd make a huge wall of text, but Hunter Thompson witnessed gang members gangbanging a young woman fucked up out of her mind on drugs. Several members of the gang admit to him that it's usually a regular occurrence at their parties, and don't seem to think anything of it. This was quite a while ago.
Read this book if you’d like to learn more on how this is a very probable statistic. Missoula by John Krakauer, https://www.amazon.com/Missoula-Rape-Justice-System-College/dp/0385538731/ref=nodl_
Well, that's a step up from their most recent top google result.
> Does anybody know where I can find official documents about the various methods the CIA used in the 1950s/60s to mind control people, especially children?
You can download the documents here. I'll warn you, most of these documents are incredibly boring. You're going to go through about 100 pages of budgets and expenditures for every one page about experimentation.
Use the wiki over at /r/MK_Ultra. It attempts to index and transcribe the documents, so it'll give you a starting point on which ones to read--though there's a lot of work still to be done. If you update it, it will help serious researchers in the future.
Check out the book The Search for the "Manchurian Candidate", by John Marks. Marks is the guy who got these documents released to the public to begin with, and he also tracked down many of the people mentioned in these documents, and interviewed them about their involvement. The book is very readable, informative, and accurate.
> So far I’ve only found personal testimonies from people like Cathy O’brien, Brice Taylor
In my humble opinion, neither of these two was an actual victim. A lot of people with schizophrenia convince themselves that they were experimented on when they were not. In O'Brien's case, she's married to Mark Phillips, who has a history of abusing--google it. I think he's encouraging her delusions because he's making lots of money off of it.
During the MKULTRA program, a bioweapon specialist who was drugged with LSD by the CIA committed suicide. The wikipedia page doesn't go in detail, but if anyone wants to read more about MKULTRA, Frank Olson, and the filthy shit that the CIA was doing at the time, I'd highly recommend the book "The Search for the Manchurian Candidate" by John Marks.
Well I'm not sure, is what I'm saying. When it comes to MPD I tend to think that yes, that is the case. The experiments of US government agencies into dissociation and mind control during the 1960s are quite well documented and not really in doubt, except by hard-core "never suspect malice" see-no-evil monkeys. A Terrible Mistake by Hank Albarelli is a good read on that, as is of course The Search for the Manchurian Candidate. On the other hand I doubt very much that it was ever as widespread as is claimed in certain circles. But then I wonder whether the most hysterical theories aren't encouraged by the spooks in order to discredit the idea itself, because that does happen.
As for human-sacrificing Satanists I'm a lot more sceptical than I am about the MPD, but at the same time there is the occasional case of a concerted group of people murdering a victim in a ritual manner. In those cases I think an analysis that takes into account the influence of Christian myths is more useful than theories of actual underground Satanist networks (the murderers tend to look like they operate independently), but some of the revelations around the Dutroux trial in Belgium do seem to show that in that country, at least, there exists a network of powerful men who rape and murder children ritually.
can't buy from a neighboring state? no problem, have your buddy who lives there buy it for you.
>Can people stop quoting the Small Arms Survey? . . . thoroughly proven (by multiple nations) to be complete bullshit.
not true. given the lack of standardized data and/or reporting it's not surprising that a few countries have been off were off but for the great majority the numbers hold up very well and have been confirmed by other research.
in any case, there is no doubt that the US has more than double the guns per capita (civilian) than any other nation on earth
a 1997 study showed that there isn't more crime in america, but that crime is far more lethal. why? because guns are so prevalent
earlier today i read that of a road rage incident in baltimore where a two year old kid was shot in the stomach. wouldn't have happened in japan because guns are so regulated there (there are more americans killed by gun before breakfast every day than are killed in japan in an entire year)
I have no idea why your're getting downvoted for this. Hunter drove on LSD all the time and this post is directly related to Hunter S. Thompson. Not condoning driving while high but people need to know the guy they look up to
1)didn't want to be looked up too
2)drove while on drugs all the time
3)shot guns on drugs all the time
4)HATED hippies
5)didn't want to be looked up to.
People in this sub need to read Hunter S. Thompson and stop quoting the two movies they saw in college.
https://www.amazon.com/Great-Shark-Hunt-Strange-Papers/dp/0743250451/ref=pd_sbs_14_img_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=7B2FXJEE5BNJBM2AZ3BH
https://www.amazon.com/Hells-Angels-Strange-Terrible-Saga/dp/0345410084/ref=pd_sim_14_4?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0345410084&pd_rd_r=019F95WVT6E8D292DE46&pd_rd_w=Q1Bup&pd_rd_wg=RHNh7&psc=1&refRID=019F95WVT6E8D292DE46
https://www.amazon.com/Generation-Swine-Tales-Shame-Degradation/dp/0743250443/ref=pd_sim_14_6?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0743250443&pd_rd_r=4JTJ8433G260ZAXRY8FY&pd_rd_w=sT42l&pd_rd_wg=TAnJC&psc=1&refRID=4JTJ8433G260ZAXRY8FY
And any conspiracy leaning people here doubting Oswald should read [Case Closed] (https://www.amazon.com/Case-Closed-Gerald-Posner/dp/1400034620/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1466199361&sr=1-1&keywords=case+closed)
Ok, so I'm back. Did you miss me?
ignoring some of the blatant contradictions, and reversals in that lasts response, lets just review.
You have already conceded that The TSA was intentional set up with foreknowledge that it would do no good. A conspiracy to fool America, that has the effect of subjugating travelers.
But you don't want to call it what it is. you have an aggressive reaction to people who do. trying to bully them into the same denial.
If I understand you right, it's because you think they had honorable intentions. you won't believe that they where being malicious, and insist that they where just trying to do the right thing.
Even if that where true (though every indication says it's not). Would it justify any of those crimes of which the TSA is just a small part? Of course it wouldn't. All villainous acts throughout history have been done by people who thought they where doing the right thing. I'm sure behind all the lies and manipulation, they really do believe they are trying to do something good. The thing you have to realize is that their idea of good doesn't include democracy, or liberty of any kind.
So, why do you yell at people and try to stifle open conversation?
I think it is because you are that little boy in the video. You don't want to have to admit to yourself that you went through subjugation rituals just like him. At your school, at your church, where ever it came. you where manipulated by people you where told to trust. people who you thought where there to take care of you, help raise you, protect you. They didn't care about you at all.
That is a hard thing to come to terms with I'm sure, but the least you could do is have enough respect for others who are trying to raise awareness about this group of ideologues who are trying to take over. even if you don't agree with them yet, because you can not deny that they are speaking truth. You just don't like the conclusion.
The most disgusting thing is that you seam to buy into the ideology itself. You say that We would be justified in using force, and manipulation just to maintain dominance, but none of that is justified. You say that people are just stupid and that it's ok to manipulate them if you think you know better than them, but that flies in the face of everything we know of as ethics.
I would hope that in the future you would think about what people are actually saying instead of just judging their validity based on their perceived authority, or rank in your community.
In any case. I will give up here I don't think I could do anything else for you except antagonize you, and while that might be fun, it's not very honest of me.
You should really watch that video. I would hope that you couldn't dismiss a whole TV network with such a long history as conspiracy nuts. They also even try to make concessions for conservative minded people. You could also read this book. It is full of cold facts, and is actually very bipartisan.
You should read Martin Ame's book, "Going Postal", which comprehensively documents what is wrong with US society.
Here's why I am worried about GMO and don't think it should be done: We have this japanese weed, an alien basically that ended up over here somehow. Our plants are used to fighting each other for survival. It's used to struggling for survival in its own ecosystem. Those are 2 different worlds.
So this weed has been growing like crazy, outgrowing everything we have. It strangles our plants. The garden people have to do culls where they go rip tonnes of it out of the ground and throw it away.
Legions of science autists that scraped through their exams with sleep deprivation on excesses of adderal might be able to hyperfocus on a DNA code and rearrange it to make the most optimized wheat possible. A "zippy-wheat" if you will. But they can't understand mother nature and it's ecosystems and all the plants and their interrelationships. It's a culture of people with their eyes open but they're asleep at the wheel.
Remember the bit about cybernetics in 'All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace' where they put all this information about what type of grass each animal was eating each day and they thought it would predict the future? People are smart but we aren't gods. We cannot meddle with the primal forces of nature. DNA is sacred. Controlling it is far far to powerful, it could create an ultraweed that is completely alien to our planet and completely unstoppable. It's too easy to drop a match and burn down the entire city of london.
People like carl sagan talked a lot about how we safely navigated through nuclear proliferation and didn't end up destroying all life on the planet. It makes us feel like we can do anything and get away with it, but this isn't true. There are 'doomsday' seed vaults to help us survive a catastrophe like some crazy GM plant swamping everything else out of existence but catastrophe can be avoided all together by having caution and accepting our human limitations.
Buy my book on amazon where i go into more detail on this
Lol sure. You are a rape apologist if you refuse to believe victims who far outnumber false accusers. The right of a likely rapist to attend school is not as important as the right of students to be safe from them.
Read this and all of these so you can ignore the real evidence and continue crying tears for likely rapists.
It's not crime rate that's interesting here. It's level of violence when crime occurs.
The crime rate in the US is similar to first world countries such as the UK. It's just that with more guns, you get more violence out of that crime.
https://www.amazon.com/Crime-Is-Not-Problem-Violence/dp/0195131053