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u/mrpoopsalot · 9 pointsr/ArtFundamentals

I have not tried other ones yet. I have been considering Schoolism or Society of Visual Story telling. I have opened and started fidiling with Michael Hamptons figure drawing book, but i felt that i needed to concentrate on boxes a little longer. I wanted to be able to rotate a box freely and make each one look like the one before, just rotated, before i started to try to build more complex shapes like faces and torsos and then rotate them. I have gotten to a point im almost satisified with rotating boxes and cylinders and have moved onto building my own complex shapes, then rotating them. No other courses have the perfect structure that drawabox has (to my knowledge at least). I really liked the structured learning.

I dont know what to say about motivation/perseverance. I see it come up a lot on /r/ArtistLounge as well as here and i never know what to say. I feel like it is a question for /r/selfimprovement or something like that, because it is really more about how you approach life vs. about drawing. Its easy for me because its basically the main thing i enjoy in life and its my main motivation to stay alive lol. All i want to do in this world is be able to create amazing images as naturally as possible and not struggle to accomplish a drawing. I just want it to flow from my mind to my hand and i know that to get there i have to work at it constantly. Good luck and dont let to much negative self talk get involved. Its just a matter of lots of practice and lots of analyzing how you are currently drawing in comparison to where you want to get. I completely struggle with implying form/shadow with a pen, but it gets better every day. Try to take a long view and realize that it will be years and years before you are happy with a drawing and you might not ever be happy because the whole thing is a constant desire to be better and thats where the enjoyment needs to come from.

u/amphibian87 · 4 pointsr/ArtFundamentals

A lot of the people I recommend draw a box to get very OCD about it and take, in my opinion, way too long on the exercises. So yes that's what I recommend but with the exception that you don't get precious about the program- just take as long as uncomfortable recommends.

For instance, I have a friend that will not move on to lesson 2 until he can do rotated boxes perfectly, even though it says right in the tutorial it's introducing more difficult stuff to challenge you. So IMO that friend will likely never do lesson 2, because he got discouraged he couldn't rotate the boxes. The sad part is that I know having done it if he'd just try and fail and move on and come back to it after a few lessons he'd ace the darn boxes.

In difficulty, figure drawing eclipses any other type of drawing, so that's the main reason I suggest do draw a box, it will build motor skills and confidence. As far as realist schools of thought, I can't recommend Robert Beverly Hale highly enough, he preaches constructive art, and not merely drawing what you see but also what you know. In fact, one of the first pages in "Drawing Lessons from the Great Masters" is several men an artist drew which he constructed out of cubes, and even with the simple cube setup the author points out all the anotomical knowledge the artist emphasizes, even on a cube he clearly made points for the sternum, sacrum, 7th vertebrate, etc etc.

Proko and Vilppu can speak more authoritatively on the matter than I can, but from the gist of it naturalist methods are more time consuming because the method is considered arcane (not valueless, just kind of obsolete), because you make a mark, measure your mark, compare, erase. Repeat until perfect. You just keep measuring things and it's kind of formulaic and route.

If you haven't already, check out some Bargue plates. They are not anywhere near drawing from life or a plaster cast, but they are an excellent way to distill form, and to "see" form better than you've ever imagined. Seriously just look at this foot it is the epitome of "footiness" and once you reproduce it and other Bargue plates exactly you just see things different.

Charles Bargue was a virtuoso artist, who rendered 3 sets of plates of, I believe, 100 drawings each, for apprentices to reproduce on the road to mastery. He drew them purposefully with no cast shadows on the model (meaning the nose or other body parts don't interfere with the form by casting a shadow) and they are similar to what you'd see if you stuck a plaster casting in a very bright but also very diffuse pure white lightbox. This obscure and arcane method has been used by Van Gogh, Dali, and even the impressionists Monet and Manet, who were the last people to apprentice under a proper Bargue atelier; after they learned how to be master draftsman, they swore off drawing black and white but went on to change how we see light.

So while definitively a naturalist method, Bargue plates are great learning tools nonetheless. For me they work perfectly for something to draw to stay sharp when I don't feel like producing an original composition, it's a great non-consequential practice tool.

The best figure artist of all time imo is Gustav Klimt and I mention him because I think one can learn a lot just by deeply viewing his work. He would have models lie down on a bed so they looked gravity defying in their stances, just such virtuosity you should check him out, especially the sketch for Medicine which he did in only 30 minutes. He demonstrates the pinnacle of knowing your subject matter.

u/Mrs-Smith123 · 2 pointsr/ArtFundamentals

Well, you are supposed to do them with a felt-tip pen, but you don't need fancy ones for artists. I tried a lot of different ones so far, and honestly, I don't see much of a difference between most brands. Where I live you can get cheap "fineliners" in every store that sells school supplies, even supermarkets. These will do fine.
These are the ones that are most common in my country, but so far I like this one the most from all cheap ones
I have no idea if these are common in other countries as well, so it' mainly just to tell you that cheap pens work completely fine :)

If you can't even get these I guess you could start with ballpoint pens as well, as long as you switch to the recommended supplies as soon as possible :)

Good luck!

u/straw_train · 1 pointr/ArtFundamentals

The first tablet I ever had was a Wacom Bamboo that I got for $70 with a student discount, and it was always pretty reliable. I haven't had one in a while, but Wacom still sells cheap tablets for people who want to start out with digital. Looks like the Intuos is their new cheap tablet and it comes with free downloads of art software. It's $100 on Amazon.
Again, I haven't used one of these in a while since I got a Cintiq, but Wacom is usually considered to have the best tablets.

u/SuinnArt · 7 pointsr/ArtFundamentals

There are a couple different ways for people who struggle with thinking of drawing prompts. I am one of those people as well so don't worry! I am in the same boat!


Anyways, the first would be simply to get a drawing prompt book such as:

Piccadilly Sketchbook, 500 Drawing Prompts Notebook


Another one would be to simply use a random word generator! You can find them pretty much everywhere if you just look it up and they give tons of great prompts such as nouns, verbs, and adjectives. Simply if the word is not an object, base it around what it is. Like if it is "Sad", well, draw a very sad scene. Maybe get a verb and a noun and make something out of that. There are literally endless possibilities!


Hope this helps you out as I struggle with coming up with ideas as well! Good Luck!


*Edit* A word.

u/shalis · 1 pointr/ArtFundamentals

I'm a newbie as well, so take my words with a grain or two of salt. I've been working at it for about as long as you have. Everyone trying to follow an artistic pursuit of any kind struggles with that, and it never goes away neither, as the more you know the more you are aware of what you don't know.

Now keep in mind that, just like me, it sounds like you are still working on your fundamentals. Its easy to get discouraged at this stage (heck I know I am right now, as I keep trying to draw plants and feels like i'm hitting my head against a wall) because you are basically learning how to (visually) talk and listen. Its frustrating when one can't express oneself, we are basically at "gugugaga moma?" stage. Learning to visualize 3d forms in 2d space, being able to see the information that you need from the subject that you are examining, being able to break complex forms into simple primaries, being aware of flow within 3d space, etc, these are the things you should be looking for progress in as that has been your focus with the boxes, organic shapes and even the figure drawing stuff I would think. Pretty pictures will come easy after that skill is comfortably under your belt.

Saying that, I try to categorize my progress in 2 ways. Mechanical and Conceptual. Mechanical skills progress is slow but progressive, all it takes is conscious repetition (conscious as in not in autopilot, you don't learn anything if you are not aware of what you are doing), Conceptual thou... that is what gives you the headaches as it often requires you to change how you think, progress in this is far more sporadic, but when it comes its explosive and completely changes how your art work looks. It takes not repetition, but analysis, reflection and study.

This is a good book that address the struggle : Art & Fear

u/Juanmilon · 2 pointsr/ArtFundamentals

I spent most of the day yesterday doing this exercises, so maybe like 6 or 7 hours... I didn't use any other resources, there's a great book that I have, and I have read in the past about animal constructions:

I'm using Uncomfortable's aproach on the exercises, but there are some great constructions there. One difference is that the guy from that book masses the whole shoulder area together.

In some time I plan on giving that book a re-read.

u/godsanchez · 2 pointsr/ArtFundamentals

Hahaha just realized you mentioned Drawing Lessons from the Great Masters further down below, along with Bargue plates. Thanks again!

u/n3tm0nk3y · 2 pointsr/ArtFundamentals

Any of these are perfect:

I bought a bunch of different ones on jet pens to see how I liked them. I liked the sakura micron and found them at a good price here:

6 should last a damn long time, even though I've already destroyed two of them :P

I was skeptical of these pens making that much of a difference at first, but after using them for a bit they do exactly what they should: force you to use the shoulder because using your wrist with them is impossible; and give you a fat, bold, unforgiving line urging you to get things right the first time and draw with confidence.

u/Jackson622 · 1 pointr/ArtFundamentals

Thanks for the suggestion. I poked around on Amazon a little and found these for basic reference:

Simply put, since I don't understand sometimes the jargon between pen, marker, etc... would you say both these products would fulfill the general requirements here on this subreddit about the type of felt tip pens to be used? Thanks.

u/Ranate · 2 pointsr/ArtFundamentals

Lessons 1 and 2 do permit ballpoint pens, but lesson 3 pushes for felt-tip pens, "For these, I insist you use a felt tip pen, as it will force you to deal with your pressure control - an issue that will help across various other drawing media."

Felt-tip pens die really quickly, yes. You can swap to try out other brands and get them in bundles for a bit cheaper, that's what I did for the Microns, just make sure they're all the same 0.5mm widths. I often went to a local art store with a coupon to get them for cheaper as well, Micheals (in the US) nearly always had some sale with a coupon.

I have heard of the Copic Multiliner SP and got one, though I have not used it, I've read this is the better alternative for Microns, that it lasts much longer and you can swap ink cartridges.

If you're up for some research, here's a good guide for these types of pens, I personally use an Isograph pen after getting tired of dying microns.

u/Burrynter · 1 pointr/ArtFundamentals

From what I've found in the sticky, no:

>Figure Drawing Resources
>Many of you know that I removed my figure drawing lessons a while back, on account of me not being satisfied with my ability to teach that material. While I have taken courses that vastly improved my ability to draw figures, professionally my focus lies with environments, vehicles and props rather than characters, so my grasp of the material just isn't solid enough. That said, here are some resources you may wish to use instead that do approach figure drawing in a more analytical manner. I haven't gone through them myself in any great depth, but from what I've seen, they're a good starting point.
>Stan Prokopenko's YouTube Channel.
Figure Drawing: Design and Invention by Michael Hampton.

u/foxtain · 2 pointsr/ArtFundamentals

No one really has "talent". It's a matter of working hard and putting in the time and effort to developing a skill.

That Huion would be perfectly acceptable though! You also have the option of a Wacom Intuos, which is a similar price.

The difference between these two brands is ultimately a preference, so you can go with either and get fairly similar results. I'd honestly go with whichever one of these is cheaper for you.

u/Shen_an_igator · 1 pointr/ArtFundamentals

Aren't copic incredibly expensive? Iirc my art-prof said those are best for serious sketching but run out very fast.

These are stabilo. They're cheap in Germany, but they might not be widespread elsewhere.

Worth a look imo. Haven't used Faber yet, had no reason to switch so far.

Oh well. Even so, it's an investment in yourself. It will never go down in value and in reality if 10 bucks a month make a serious difference (imo) one should go out and fix finances first by earning (not saving)

u/perlatus · 1 pointr/ArtFundamentals

I spent $14 on an introductory drawing book
($14 for finally convincing myself that I just might be able to draw is a pretty good deal in the long run) that is now collecting dust because I realized midway through the second lesson that I had no idea how to draw circles, and I wanted to be able to draw good circles.

Then I realized I couldn't draw lines either, and that scared me enough to look for other resources.

Drawabox has already taught me how to draw lines and circles (and... boxes), so I think $3 a month is a steal. I think it's certainly worth more than $1, which is why I didn't pledge that amount when I signed up.

u/SphynxKitty · 5 pointsr/ArtFundamentals

I committed to a 365 creative challenge to do this. There are places onine that will give you a prompt or you can get Noah Scalin's book and just do drawings.

On Instagram #100dayproject kicks off today/tomorrow (depending on where you are in the world)

You can grab an ArtBuddy over at /r/ArtBuddy

I set up an Beeminder account that will deduct $5 from my credit card if I do not post my daily art to a site because I was really serious about doing this - and yeah up to day 286 and no deductions yet ;)

u/DrFacemelt · 6 pointsr/ArtFundamentals

You can practice curves or arcs in the same way you practice straight lines. Make lots of them! You goal should be to make fluid, confident strokes from your shoulder. Lots of books go over this including this one from Scott Robertson or this one from Andrew Loomis. Also check out this From Foundation Patreon.

u/isabelle-olivia · 3 pointsr/ArtFundamentals

Drawing is about technical skill as much as it is about learning how to observe. I can't teach you how to draw, cuz I just don't have the time. However I can recommend a book that really helped me out! It's called Drawing From Observation by Brian Curtis. It's gotten way more expensive than when I bought it so I recommend looking for a better price, maybe buy it used if you can.

drawing from observation

u/TheKnobleSavage · 2 pointsr/ArtFundamentals

Pretty sure the Drawabox website has pens for sale now. (They were out when I got started so I purchased these .)

u/krankynico · 4 pointsr/ArtFundamentals

The pen recommended is often refered to as a "fiberpen" "liner" "fineliner". There are several different producers out there so look for example:

Here is some quick amazon links of exampels:

You should be able to find atleast one variant of this in your local artstore, office supply store, etc.

u/shadyedit · 1 pointr/ArtFundamentals

Well there’s a Wacom intuous tablet that’s about $80 (and this one comes with software apparently which is a bonus) . Wacom is a big company and even though they can have incredibly annoying glitches, I’ve been pretty impressed with the customer service on the whole. I had an issue with a charging jack on my last Wacom tablet and they repaired it free of charge as the issue was a manufacturing problem.

For a strict under 70 budget there’s also something called the Ugee . I have zero personal experience but I’ve read the name on a couple “top ten tablets for less $$$” lists.

u/Mhoram_antiray · 8 pointsr/ArtFundamentals

I am not sure if they are global or not, but Stabilo work fine too. I think they are mainly German, but I wouldn't know

Give either a try I'd say. They don't exactly break the bank ;)

u/tilkau · 1 pointr/ArtFundamentals

I would strongly agree with that; IME the longer you go at a continuous stretch making the same kind of effort, the more you suffer diminishing returns -- work harder, make more mistakes, while learning less.

The program of study I'm currently 180+ of 450 hours into, only schedules any >1h block on a single exercise in a single day, in schedule 11, "Long Study of Drapery"; Every other schedule (there are 25 schedules) balances 30 minute, 15 minute, and 1 hour studies within a day, splitting any sustained (>1h) study over multiple days. I have found this pretty effective.

I would also say that different types of study have different 'sweet spots' in terms of time, that more or less match their 'speed' (eg. it is natural to do gestures quickly and vigorously, and natural to build models gradually and carefully. If you do the converse, you tend to lose much of what is good about the exercise.)

u/Zepp_BR · 3 pointsr/ArtFundamentals

> I was just wondering if I should move on to other resources after I finish DaB


Personally, I own this book which is fun for doodling, but the last drawings I did from there were in 2014.

I also own Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, by Betty Edwards, did a couple of exercises but got so frustrated I stopped drawing for another 2 years.

Now I got back to Drawing for the Absolute and Utter Beginner, by Claire Garcia, just did the first tracing contour lesson, and since she wanted me to draw lines and elipses, I thought "hey, /ArtFundamentals has a much better take on drawing lines and ellipses than this book, so I'm here.

Nevertheless, I'm planning to get back into the book and draw from here as well, just so I can produce anything more than lines for a while :P

u/SpaceSuitFurry · 1 pointr/ArtFundamentals

My microns are near a dear to me, and a lethal weapon for inking. Here’s a 6 pack for less than 10$. Go look at any artist on YouTube, they all use microns at some time or another

4.5 stars and 3,000 reviews

u/Sabeta · 3 pointsr/ArtFundamentals

A set of Sakura 08 (.5mm) is similarly priced

A tiny bit more pricy, ($20 USD for 12 compared to $16.5 for 10) so I would really need to know how these compare. The Sakura's have amazing Ink that was able to survive a washing machine. (I accidentally left a sticky-note sketch in my pocket; there wasn't ANY bleeding of the ink, just minor distortions where the warped during drying.) The pens themselves have minor durability concerns (Weaker nibs than Staedtler, an infrequent leaking problem that happens occasional enough to warrant mention, and worst of all imo the labelling can rub off, making it hard to tell which pen is which once you've had them for a while)

Pigma Microns are flawed, but they're my favorite pen especially for the price point.

u/Micky_Garda · 2 pointsr/ArtFundamentals

You can get multi packs of 0.05mm fineliner ink pens [example](pigment liner fineliner 0.05 m

u/bumbletowne · 2 pointsr/ArtFundamentals

I usually get Sakura microns.


Mine have lasted a few years. I dont' draw with pens intensively (I'm a charcoal and graphite kind of girl) however I do 9x11 live drawing of city scenes about once a month.

u/TheGreatPiata · 5 pointsr/ArtFundamentals

I'm going to piggy back off this post and recommend Art & Fear by by David Bayles and Ted Orland:

It's a short read so it shouldn't take too much time from drawing.

The two things that really stuck out for me were:

  • Students graded by the number of pieces produced created more and better art than students graded on one piece at the end of the class
  • What others think of your art is irrelevant. You are going to make stuff anyways so you might as well ignore everything else and focus on making art

    The other thing that really influenced me was Strip Search from Penny Arcade:

    Mike's advice to almost everyone eliminated was to "draw every day". That really stuck with me and I've done it ever since. Making drawing a part of my daily routine is the only way I've managed to grow as an artist.
u/wishingaction · 11 pointsr/ArtFundamentals

i'm 16! and i can see why your friends think like that; so did i when i started drawing. and i regret it hugely. i wish i learned the basics from the very beginning. that's why i'm using drawabox now.

i started drawing when i was in 5th grade, so 10-11. i learned from a how to draw manga book (this one) my little sister had borrowed from the library. it has got to be one of the worst ways to start drawing. if i could go back in time i'd go with drawabox or find an art teacher.

as a kid i wasn't aware of flaws in my drawings. like your friends, i just drew what interested me and learned only what i needed to accomplish that. i also avoided anything difficult, so i have pages and pages of headshots, all facing forward or 3/4s view with mild expressions. i was impatient. i started drawing digitally at 11, using deviantart's muro on an ipad with my fingers or on my mom's computer with a mouse. a year or two later, i pirated paint tool sai and bought a drawing tablet. so i was able to move on to digital art without even understanding how to draw traditionally. oh, and i drew entirely from my wrist.

as a result, i can give you half-decent anime style portraits all day. but i'm lost when it comes to anything else. backgrounds, anything below the shoulders, animals, objects, plants, ears, hands, expressions, perspective, poses, characters interacting, different angles, lineart, etc. i have no foundation to stand on.

it's extremely frustrating and limiting.

i know a lot of people are tempted to start drawing stylistically, especially if that's their end goal. i get that. the anime art style just appealed to me, as it does to most little girls. it's still my preferred style, actually. i love how expressive and pretty it can be. but i would much rather have started out drawing from observation then developed a style.

sometimes people my age tell me, "i wish i could draw like you" or "i could never draw like you" and i always tell them about how much time i wasted dicking around and how little i actually know. then i tell them if they avoided my mistakes and applied themselves, they'd be at my level in a year, traditionally at least, no doubt! especially since they're around my age, so they won't struggle with a child's wobbly hand and lack of self-awareness.