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REI has a very good camping checklist. Of course it's a US site and REI sells high quality stuff that is usually out of the price range of most beginners, so use it as a general guide on what you need, not necessarily the exact items you want to buy. Last time I was down under I was a shocked at the markup on imported US brands, so make do with what you can get down there.

I'm assuming you're going car camping; driving up to a campsite and unloading the gear. And I'm going to assume family of five means three kids say 8-14 or so. With older teens or more adults you'll need to pack more food and might need a bigger cooler, need a bigger tent or different sleeping arrangements.

Here are some recommendations for the basics. I'm linking to Amazon so you can see the products, and hopefully find something similar locally.

Tent - Coleman Montana 8. It's a well regarded tent for the price. Big enough for a family, can fit a couple of queen size air mattresses in there (kids can share a full size mattress or bring smaller inflatables). Whatever tent you get, make sure you take it out of the bag and try setting it up a few times. When setting up the tent, make sure you take out the poles and stakes and set them in a specific location, so they don't get lost and they don't get stepped on (and broken). If anything is confusing, get it sorted out before you go!

Sleeping bags - depends on where you are going and when. You can buy Coleman synthetic bags pretty cheap at most outdoor stores. Synthetic bags are generally heavy and bulky, but will get the job done. The rating on the bag is generally the extreme rating... as in you probably won't die at that temp but it might be a cold miserable night. Mummy bags save some weight and some bulk and are warmer, but some don't like the constrictive nature of the bags. Bring pillows from home to make things more comfortable (but note that you may have to wash them when you get home). Throw pillows will work, probably better than "backpacking" pillows. Or you can bring pillow cases and stuff them with spare clothes and jackets... I generally use throw pillows car camping.

Mattress pad - if you're car camping, don't bother with backpacking pads. Bring full size Coleman air mattresses, or even a queen. Remember you'll need some way to inflate the pad; a battery operated pump will work but is slow. You can get a pump that plugs in, but you 1. need an inverter in the car, 2. need an extension from the car into the tent since the inflated mattress probably won't fit through the door of the tent. Make sure you get the dimensions of all the air mattresses and the dimensions of the tent and make sure everything fits with some room to spare. Remember that you also need room for gear; of course the car is right there and you can always leave gear in the car, but on a chilly morning it's nicer to just open your bag and get a hat rather than run out to the car.

Stove - Camp Chef Everest dual burner propane stove. The Coleman dual burner stove is a classic and works well.

Cookset - I use full size pots and pans for car camping. You can just bring what you have at home (not too big, the stove won't fit big pots and pans), or maybe find cheaper stuff in the clearance section of some stores (if the stuff at home is too nice to bring camping). Along with the pots and pans, bring your usual utensils. You can bring paper plates, plastic cups and forks/knives, or buy "camping" stuff. Don't forget the spices and condiments, trivets for hot plates, coffee, tea, bottle/wine opener...

Water - Is there potable water at the campsite? Are you bringing your water or do you need to filter? I generally bring a couple of Coleman 5 gallon water jug. They collapse until I need them... but you really can't fill them all the way up since they're really difficult to carry. Or you might be able to buy water at the grocery store and just bring what you need - 1 gallon per day per person should be fine, more if it's hot and you're being very active.

Washing - if there's no washing facilities, you want to bring a wash basin to clean up the dishes and utensils. Don't forget the dish soap and sponge for cleaning pots and pans.

Cooler - Coleman Xtreme 70quart. Or the Igloo Max. I prefer something smaller since I've got a smaller sedan and will run into town more frequently. If you're only going overnight, you may only need a small cooler, but if your kids drink lots of milk or only cool juice, you may want to invest in a good size, well rated cooler.

Headlamps - it's good for everyone to have their own headlamps. The Black Diamond Spot is a good headlamp from a great company. You can a cheap Energizer Headlamp for under $15 for young kids, they're not great but work well enough.

Camp lantern - Coleman propane lanterns are the ol' standard, work great and cast great light. Uses the same 1lb propane tanks as the stove. But many are going with LED lanterns... these Cheap camp lanterns on Amazon seem like a pretty good deal, I've got some like them and they work fine. Very bright and very white, but cheap and effective.

Packing/hauling - Rubbermaid tote. These tubs make a great way to haul and store gear. I also store food in my tubs; make sure you can secure them so critters can't get in.

Tarp - bring a couple. It's good to have one tarp to hang over the cooking / eating area. You'll need some rope or cord to tie these up.

Folding chairs and tables - bring 'em if you've got 'em. It's much easier to cook standing up at a table.

Firewood - call ahead or check online, some campsites have firewood restrictions; some places you can't forage for wood and you need to buy it locally.

Garbage bags - bring a couple of big ones, a bunch of smaller bags if you need to pack up smelly stuff.

Well, I hope that enough for a start. Good luck!

1. Tent: Eagles Peak II Two person tent - http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=50802926
   -This was generous gift from my SO's mom. It may not be the best tent out there, but at free it can't be beat.
   
   
2. Sleeping Bag: Marmot Aspen Minimalist 40 - http://www.trailspace.com/gear/marmot/aspen-40-ultralight/
   -Got this for its small size and light weight. Future winter camping trips are a possibility, in which case I plan on snagging a wool blanket of sleeping bag liner.
   
   
3. Sleeping Pad: RidgeRest Classic - http://www.amazon.com/Therm-A-Rest-6433-Parent-RidgeRest-Classic-Mattress/dp/B00HZ13OYG
   -Simple basic sleeping pad, I've been using these since scouts and have wanted for nothing more, especially because of its light weight.
   -In the event of winter camping, is this enough to insulate from the ground? If not, what could be added to my sleep system to keep me insulated from the ground?
   
   
4. Cookware: Pot Pan stackable combo - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FQZEYWE?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00
   -Lightweight and simple, these were cheap and seemed straight forward.
   -They stack with the majority of either piece's empty space facing each other, allowing for decently dry storage for matches etc. inside.
   -Comes with a tight fitting mesh ditty bag
   
   
5. Small Camp Grill - Coghlan's Camp Grill - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001OPHA0S?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
   -Another straight forward and cheap piece,
   -This is really an optional piece, I plan on bringing it along on trips with big groups or when cooking meat is in the cards.
   
   
6. Plates x2: Coleman Enamel plates - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009PUSPI?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
   -These are the camping gold standard in my book, been using them since scouts.
   
   
7. Stuff Sacks x3: REI pack of 3 Ditty Sacks 2, 3, and 7 liter. -http://www.rei.com/product/795047/rei-ditty-sack-package-of-3
   -Came in a decently affordable combo pack, plan on using them for food/toiletries storage and bear bags.
   
   
8. Knife: Morakniv Companion Straight Knife - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004TNWD40?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
   -Love this little knife, cheap but durable and was a shaver straight out of the box.
   -Came with a super thick plastic sheath
   
   9)Hatchet: Estwing Hatchet - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004TNWD40?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
   -Heard this was a classic, people say they've still got the one's their grandfather's used. It's heavy, but I'm happy with the tradeoff.
   -Got it sharpened well enough to cleanly slice through paper at the moment
   
   
9. Axe Sharpener: Lansky Dual Grit Sharpener - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000B8FW0Y?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00
   -Great sharpener, pretty much the go to field sharpener from what I've gathered.
   -Only took a couple minutes to learn how to use, the only hard part is consistently following the bevel through each stroke, but it gets easier.
   
   
10. Camp Towels x2: Microfiber quick-drying towels - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000B8FW0Y?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00
    -Very great, medium size towels with their own tote
    
    
11. Collapsible Water Jug: REI 2.5 gallon collapsible water jug - http://www.rei.com/product/402099/reliance-fold-a-carrier-water-carrier-25-gal
    -Seems great, picked it up at REI physical store then read reviews and got spooked, we'll see though, a minority of the reviewers swear by it.
    -Just in case it sucks, any suggestions for a collapsible water container of equal size/price?
    
    
12. Water Bags x2: 33 oz Bag style canteens - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010OLZ3E2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00
    -These came free with my water filter, and they have many good reviews. If they do well, I may buy some extras.
    
    
13. Wine Skin: 2L - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CN4RN42?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00
    -More showing of my primitivist ass, and I thought I could take some weight off of my SO by carrying enough water for the two of us.
    
    
14. Pillows x2: Field and Stream - http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=33581126
    -Got these a long time ago when I knew less, they are pretty bulky and my first item I want to replace
    
    
15. Pack: Kelty Redwing 50L Black
    -SO's mom gifted this this Christmas, so amazing and thoughtful, one of the best gifts I've ever gotten and I love the color
    
    
16. Shoes: Skechers Trail Runners - I found these at the thrift store for a stunning 12 bucks and they fit perfectly
    
    
17. Lighting: Outlite Lantern -http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01178FLM0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00
    -Pack of flashlights (might not bring all four) - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00V639BNC?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01
    
    
18. Extras: Tarp as groundcloth, some extra stakes.
    
    Items not shown:
    -Always a tin or bag of Drum Tobacco and papers
    -Kindle, old generation one
    -Collapsible trowel
    -Paracord
    -Burlap shoulder bag for gathering kindling etc
    
    Items still wanted (suggestions greatly appreciated):
    -Knife for SO
    -Work gloves
    -Plastic flasks for booze
    -Belt pouch
    -Higher quality tarp
    -Knife Sharpener
    -Sleeping bag liner or wool blanket
    -Any food suggestions!
    -Rain cover for pack
    -Smell proof food bags
    
    I don't have much experience outside of scouts, so I'm very open to critique of my setup. I will warn that I am very much into primitivism, and camping for me is a gateway to a backcountry, esthetic lifestyle I one day I hope to live, so some of my gear choices may not always be the most efficient. Any advice from a primitivist or purist standpoint is doubly appreciated.
    
    

OK, here is a brain dump of whatever comes into my mind. Just hoping to spark your memory so don't get mad if I say a bunch of stuff you already know...

Put all the pieces into a lighterpack.com account and checkout r/Ultralight before you buy (head over there and burn down the sidebar reading list and the incomplete-wiki, it's worth it).

Is that Osprey really 70 L? That's huge. Probably weighs a ton, what are you bringing that fills up 70 L on a 3-5 day summer trip? A 50 L beer keg? Maybe you have some sweet luxury items that take up a lot of space in the pack, but I'd drop the volume on the pack to at least 50 L. If you can manage it, Try a Ultimate Direction Fastpack 30. But if you just can't get your volume that small, get what works. Weight is an issue too, in frameless packs the straps are uncomfortable over 30 lbs, sometimes less. But if you make some smart choices right now, you shouldn't bust 30 lbs. (It's also smart to get the rest of the gear first to get an idea of how much volume you'll need in your pack and if you'll need a frame.)

Research quilt vs sleeping bag. Quilts are big these days unless you are a crazy sleeper. Enlightened Equipment is the shiz. I've bought 4 quilts and made 3 DIY and EE are the best I've tried. EE also sells a synthetic quilt called the prodigy which I use in the summers or as a layer in the winters. I hear that Katabatic quilts are truly the best if the price tag doesn't scare you away. And a super cheap, but quality option though on aliexpress, it's buy at your own risk. Worked for me last time, doesn't mean it will next time.

Massdrop is selling a skinny UL static V (and the insulated verion) right now for cheap. (I own the insulated option and bought it from massdrop.) But there's a lighter not-as-skinny pad called a Thermorest Neoair Xlite. Also the sea to shining sea ultralight pad gets high marks. So look at those, see what other pads are popping on r/ultralight, the balance the weight and costs to your preference. (Assuming you know about r-values and what your needs will be in Maine/Vermont. I'm guessing spring is a little cold so maybe r=~4 in the early spring or high altitude?)

Nemo tents are great. If you're only camping spring/summer I'd get a much lighter weight tarp tent. Like 3 lbs or less including stakes/cords (and footprint if your tent has a bathtub floor).

11-14 oz MSR Whisperlite is awesome. Stoves are pretty personal, it's best to go with one you trust. MSR is probably the right choice for you. I use a tiny 2oz stove and a homemade windscreen. My stove is finicky and too small if you're cooking for 2 or more. However, there's a whole mess of stoves between the 2oz and 14 oz which might still cover you and save you a few ounces or half a pound. Like the Kovea Spider which I also have, and use in the cold (gas liquefies and fuel can must be inverted, so I need a freestanding stove with a tube). I'm personally biased against the jetboil because of how much space it takes in my pack, but I own 2. They are fast, good for groups. Again the MSR is NOT a bad choice.

You also need a cook pot. Titanium is a waste of money, find a cheap Aluminum one for the same results. Like the olicamp ones, or if you want a real lid, you'll have to spend more (the metal lids cost way more for some odd reason).

Water filtration. Everybody ravs over the Sawyer Squeeze and I guess I'm out of the loop having never tried it. Fretting about making sure my filter doesn't freeze seems like a source of anxiety. I'll try it eventually though. I like the hand pump water filters. I rock an MSR hyperflow. And if I'm in a big group, I'll break out my Katadyn 6L Gravity Filter.

Get a down jacket from costco or sams for 20$, if you're camping in it, you'll wear it out so no use spending a ton there. (Down packs small and won't take up nearly any pack space)

Get a headlamp, I prefer blackdiamond or Fenix. For BD this image sums it up very nicely. For fenix there's a variety but I am currently using the HL55 (900 lumens). Again look at the weights, but also look at the battery requirements and the longevity/efficiency. Find what you like.

Ok my brain is dumped. Hopefully I hit on something worth your time. If I were you, I'd go as cheap as possible, then put the savings into funding your travel for hiking or buying a kayak. Random, I know, but having blown tons of money on gear I feel like there's quality for a good price if you look for it. And using the extra money to break into a new hobby opens the door to a potentially mind altering experience. Especially a related hobby like kayaking, fishing, snowshoeing, rock climbing, diving (though this one is lots of money), or whatever's clever.

I don't know too much about that backpack, so I can't comment, but you should be able to pickup a pack in that price range if you're just getting started.

water

A lifestraw will work, but essencially you need to go source to mouth, so if you need water for anything but drinking (i.e. for cooking) I don't know if the lifestraw will be best. Sure you can suck in, spit out, but there is a better solution: the sawyer mini is about the same price point: http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398890779&sr=8-1&keywords=sawyer+mini

meals

and that brings me to water for cooking. MREs are heavy, and while you won't be hiking far carrying that weight even for a short distance might not be the most fun (especially if you are saving money on your pack) - there a many commercially available freeze dried meals which are very light and you simply add boiling water to. Mountain house is the most common - http://www.amazon.com/MOUNTAIN-HOUSE-Beef-Stroganoff-4-80oz/dp/B0002YRNJK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398890892&sr=8-1&keywords=mountain+house

besides mountain house there is backpackers pantry (better IMO):
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=backpackers%20pantry&sprefix=backpacke%2Caps

and finally if you want to try some of the best I recommend packit gourmet:
http://www.packitgourmet.com/CookInBagMeals.html

clothes

wool is good because it keeps it's insulation warmth when wet. wool can be expensive though. If the weather is going to be good I'd recommend a couple quick drying shirts (which are pretty affordable)
http://www.amazon.com/Russell-Athletic-Sleeve-Dri-Power-3X-Large/dp/B00719Y8HO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1398891200&sr=8-3&keywords=quick+dry+shirt

and be prepared to own the worlds best pair of underwear - buy two pair wear one, wash one in a river:
http://www.amazon.com/ExOfficio-Give-N-Go-Boxer-Brief-Medium/dp/B001M0MN02/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398891283&sr=8-1&keywords=exofficio+boxer+briefs

tools

this is probably one of the first things that gets "over packed" what to you anticipate needing a tool for? On the hand saw if you will be collecting fire wood there is a very nice lightweight handsaw that is perfect for backpacking, the Sven Saw:
http://www.amazon.com/SVEN-SAW-Sven-Saw-21/dp/B002J900EQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398891413&sr=8-1&keywords=sven+saw

cookware

on cookware it all depends on what you'll be cooking. on a budget I'd recommend this cup:
http://www.amazon.com/GSI-Outdoors-Glacier-Stainless-Bottle/dp/B001LF3IB6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398891523&sr=8-1&keywords=GSI+cup

and this stove:
http://www.amazon.com/Ultralight-Backpacking-Canister-Ignition-silvery/dp/B00ENDRORM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398891563&sr=8-1&keywords=backpacking+stove

with that you'll be able to boil water for your freeze dried meals, make ramen, and you can also make hot drinks like tea.

You'll need to list a budget if you want valuable advice. Like most camping gear - these items can go for a wide range of prices / quality. You generally get what you pay for - so the bigger budget the better quality.

Are you shopping in the USA or abroad? Online or local shops? Different areas have different brands available.

When / where will you do the majority of your camping? Don't need to list the specific parks - but a general idea of the temps and terrain you'll be using this equipment would be idea. Warm beaches or snowy mountains, Windy plains or thick forests, etc.

You said car / base style camping - that's a valuable distinction. Backpacking / wilderness style gear would be very different.

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Tent - 4-person tent for 2 people is best for car camping, you could even go higher for more room/comfort.

Stove - a 2-burner propane stove would be ideal. Coleman brand is classic.

Lantern - a propane lantern is old-school, but bright / effective. I'd probably go with a battery powered option though, easier to deal with.

cookware - tons of options here. You could start by going to your local Thrift Store. Get the basics, they even have cast iron there often. Then get a plastic tub to store it all in - as your kitchen kit grows it will be valuable to store it all together for transport.

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Without knowing the answers to my above questions, I'll throw out some basic gear options for you to check out:

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Tent

• https://www.rei.com/product/894015/rei-co-op-kingdom-4-tent
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Sundome-4-Person-Tent-Green/dp/B004J2GUOU
  
  There are other top brands, but the REI one is good quality for the cost. The Coleman one is cheap, but highly popular and good enough for most. Kind of 2 ends of the spectrum there.
  
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  Stove
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Stove-Ppn-BRN-Triton/dp/B00VTJGWNU
  
  This one really is the standard, I don't recommend any other option personally.
  
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  Lantern
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Northstar-Propane-Lantern-Case/dp/B00HUG7OZQ
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Etekcity-Portable-Camping-Flashlights-Batteries/dp/B00XM8HTIS
  
• https://www.amazon.com/rechargeable-camping-batteries-EdisonBright-Batteries/dp/B01HB4WK3M
  
  Tons of options in the battery category. Might as well start cheap and see if it works well enough. I rarely even use my lantern anyway. I sit by the fire or use my headlamp. Better to invest in a good headlamp I'd say.
  
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  Cookware
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-Adventure-Base-Stainless-Steel/dp/B01MTFIMUC
  
• https://www.amazon.com/GSI-Outdoors-Superior-Backcountry-Cookware/dp/B006ERSCNA
  
  Kits are a good way to get started. Then add single items like tongs, knives, wash buckets, etc. as needed. I really do suggest using items from the thrift store whenever possible. That way you don't care if it gets dinged up or burnt while camping.

I don't think you'd find a -5C sleeping bag that will pack small enough to backpack easily for $100CAD unless you find some very good sales. You'd need to choose a synthetic and it would likely be quite bulky and heavy, or it will be rated very liberally and wouldn't keep you as warm as it says.

Personally, I wouldn't cheap out on a sleeping bag anyways. Especially in cold weather, you want to be comfortable and warm away from civilization. You can check for deals on websites, I like TheLastHunt for past season gear but the good stuff gets snapped up very quickly and there are no returns unless the product comes damaged or different than what is ordered so you need to do your research in advance.

At full price, you'd probably need to spend another $50 minimum to find something rated to keep you warm at -5C. However, if you take care of a well made sleeping bag, it should last 10+ years with little loss of loft.

You may want to consider saving up a bit more and just purchasing a nice sleeping bag. You do have something like a Coleman or a Teton brand as an option, but it's going to be absolutely massive and the temp ratings are likely not very accurate.

Personally I chose a MEC brand (the Draco -9C) down sleeping bag. They are quite a bit past your price range (even the cheapest that fits your needs is about double your range.) I also have a 2C Chinook brand bag that I got for very cheap, but it's a summer bag.

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If you want my honest opinion, don't cheap out on a cold weather sleeping bag. Other pieces of gear failing might be fine, or if you are car camping you have a safety net, but if a sleeping system fails you when backpacking, you could possibly be in a lot of trouble. If you can, spend a bit more and get something you can trust and enjoy your time in. $200-300 for something that will last you years and years is worth it.

Otherwise, buy a cheap bag and bring a whole lot of layers to sleep in and prepared to sleep quite uncomfortably and take up 50%-75% of your backpacks capacity.

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Also make sure you use a sleeping pad, as it will add a lot of warmth to your sleep system. A friend likes this one that is fairly inexpensive and robust, with a good r-value for 3season use.

I'm going to be trying out my Aegismax bag next week when I hike the Loyalsock Trail. I'm expecting highs in the 80s and lows in the 50s, but wouldn't be surprised if it got into the 40s. Aegismax says the comfort zone is +2-8C (35-45F). I tried it out overnight last weekend and was right on the edge of comfort during the coldest hours of the night. I think it was in the low 50s or so, but I didn't have a thermometer. I didn't use a liner, and I was sleeping in my skivvies. I'll admit I was a tad disappointed that the comfort zone wasn't anywhere near 35F, but I know I could improve on that by wearing long underwear and/or using a liner.

The point is it's going to depend on the quality of the bag, your sleeping clothes/liner, and your pad. The latter is very important. The Aegismax is super cheap and super light (under a pound), but relatively low quality. A fleece blanket becomes a viable option when it's warm enough.

As for combining two bags for winter, I can't tell you for sure, but I would imagine that it wouldn't work very well. Sleeping bags work by trapping warm air, and I think that using two quilts on top of each other would cause too much air to escape. I use a 20 degree bag, liner, and base layer in the winter on top of a CCF pad and an inflatable pad. It works pretty well because I can keep the warm air inside the bag, although my shoulders get cold because it's a rectangular bag. A mummy bag may work better.

The closest thing I used to a life straw is the "Soldier water filter". An ultra small membrane type filter built inside a real tiny hand pump.

While it worked incredibly well as a filter, as a pumping device it sucked. Took circa 30 minutes of minutia pumping while crouched by a water source to suck up a single liter of water.

To me those straw, look more like a last resort type of water filter for similar reasons. They probably work well as a filter but are rather tedious to use. They have a truly limited use scenario.

Also because of it's method of use you are likely not to be fully hydrated as you will likely not drink as much as actually needed for long hikes in hot weather, as it's designed to be only used at the water source. Water sources can be rather far apart. Good sucking skills are also required.

I have images in my head of sucking that straw until I turn blue with my face suspended a few inches above the lake or river bank attempting to suck water then sliding and falling into the water while simply attempting to have a drink.

I don't know about you but it seems likely to produce some rather comical photo opportunities for other hikers while simply attempting to get a drink.

I personally used the Katadyn 6L base camp water filter (The revised Version #2) and found it an amazing high speed device that allowed me to filter enough water to fill my 3L bladder and cook dinner and breakfast as well as provide water for other hikers with me. This each and every night at base camp. This in a mater of minutes. it filters really fast. An entire days supply only takes minutes.

Aside this I would perhaps consider the Sawyer squeeze filter, which is somewhat similar but designed for smaller quantities of water. You don't have to suck until you turn blue.

Simply fill bag and squeeze, Around a liter per squeeze bags and is about the size of a life straw while stored in your bag. This is the real economical yet highly functional solution. Small, compact. The only draw back is you have to do this multiple times a day. Other than that it's the perfect kit.

Katadyn and a few others make better hand pump type water filter that are more usable than what I had. However they are truly cost prohibitive and I personally cant see why pay this much makes sense for me.

In the end for me it's a gravity filter, less work, fast, more quantity per water pull from lakes and rivers and fast easy filtering. It is a real blessing to have ease of use, when tired and having to setup camp and prep food etc. I cant say a single bad thing about that filter, yet.

Albeit I have read some rather bad reviews on the same filter I use, but so far it's not my experience with them. Not a single issue ever...

I haven't used that backpack you're looking at but I can tell from its design, that it doesn't look like it'll carry the weight comfortably if you're planning on a 3 day backpacking trip in wilderness. This pack is probably better for normal travel so if you're car camping and have access to amenities then this pack should do fine. It also doesn't look big enough to carry a tent, sleeping bag, food, water, etc.

Assuming you'll be deeper in wilderness and using a tent, sleeping bag, pad, etc., I would recommend something that will carry comfortably (aim weight toward your hips and reduce weight on your back) and there are better options out there. You'd want a backpacking backpack at least and you can probably find lots of options within (or close to) your budget.
Below are a few suggestions within a few different price ranges (not sure how strict your budget is).
Side note: I used to own the previous version of the Teton - it was my first backpack - for the price it did a pretty good job and never had any major complaints:

TETON Sports Scout 3400 60L

Mountaintop 55L Backpacking Pack

Mountaintop 65L Internal Frame Backpack Hiking Backpack with Rain Cover

50L Hiking Backpack EocuSun Waterproof Camping Backpack Outdoor Sport Lightweight Backpacking Bag

Hope this helps - have fun on your trip!

I would not recommend this. choices differ between if you are backpacking/hiking to a camp or just driving in/car camping. Gear can be expensive or reasonable but If you are just starting out, I would not recommend buying expensive gear before you know what provides you value. Everyone's different so some questions only you will be able to answer once you go a few times. I would recommend going conservative on cost to start out until you know what you prefer (Checking out other peoples gear on camping trips/ REI browsing sessions are a gold mine)

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Sleeping Bag depending on what the night time low temps are (based mostly on how high the elevation youre going to be sleeping at this time of year) you don't need a sleeping bag, I would instead recommend a light packable down quilt like the one from Costco or This cost: $20-$40

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pricier sleeping bag option

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XE2SKG2/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=darwionthe-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00XE2SKG2&linkId=faa0813c08ae84dc66e192d16eef9fde

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Sleeping Pad Basic sleeping pad :https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LZWW2FD/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=darwionthe-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01LZWW2FD&linkId=7f466defe405f13e4d8f457436a33b6c $35-$40

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I personally use the Klymit Static V, You can get them refurbished for very little on Amazon/Ebay

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Tent Lots of options here, a few of them good for a low price. Decision is if you're going to be going solo or taking company (Size) and again how light you want to go on the weight. Freestanding tents generally provide more shelter but can be hotter in the summer and generally heavier. Some people choose only a light tarp setup for ultralight backpacking. its a personal choice but I would definitely take some time to think what suits your need on this. A few options.

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(requires trekking poles) light

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01J9XWJEI/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=darwionthe-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01J9XWKHY&linkId=df511cfe28f404892810dfcda5f5560d&th=1&psc=1

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Freestanding option $112

https://www.amazon.com/Kelty-Salida-Camping-Backpacking-Tent/dp/B00NFCFO0Q/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1563337921&s=gateway&sr=8-1

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Cheaper $95

https://www.amazon.com/ALPS-Mountaineering-Lynx-1-Person-Tent/dp/B00BMKD1DU/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=1p+tent&qid=1563338006&s=gateway&sr=8-3

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For the tent I would recommend spending a little more if you are strictly buying for car camping, itll have more longevity and youll be using it for a few years. This is my car camping tent. $260

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M87LPMU/ref=twister_B07BWCR88J?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

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I would highly recommend investing in some permethrin/bug spray, a good hat and a Head Net to go along with it.

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Happy trails.

Mountaintop 40 liter pretty good for 40 bucks, however I'm upgrading again soon. This one is great and I've had it for about two years now with no sign of wear and tear but I wish I had gone with a 50 or 60 liter bag as the 40 really strains for space on a week long trip. Its perfect for about three days however and that's usually what I do anyway. here's some pics of mine the thing I was most concerned about was support and this does a decent enough job, I'd say 7/10. It has molded foam support which is good but a external frame style seems better to me ( however that's a opinionated subject ) id reccamend going ahead and getting either this one or a larger Teton, or the larger version of mine if your planning on staying out for more than 5 days or so. Less than that and I'd highly recommend mine :)

https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Powerhouse-Dual-Fuel-Camping-2-Burner/dp/B00006I56J/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1MJLK6B5SM31I&keywords=coleman+powerhouse+stove&qid=1556851905&s=gateway&sprefix=coleman+powerhouse%2Caps%2C146&sr=8-1

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I like this stove, if you are car camping, as you can use gasoline and don't need to carry around propane tanks.

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As others said, leverage the REI beginner packs such as:

https://www.rei.com/product/127720/rei-co-op-backpacking-bundle

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https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Sundome-4-Person-Tent-Green/dp/B004J2GUOU/ref=sr_1_3?crid=28ZQTQZ7X04R3&keywords=coleman%2Bsundome%2B4%2Bperson&qid=1556852004&s=gateway&sprefix=coleman%2Bsun%2Caps%2C143&sr=8-3&th=1&psc=1

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Is a fantastic starter tent.

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As others said, totes are your friend. Remember to bring TP and sanitizer. Water storage is useful too https://www.walmart.com/ip/Ozark-Trail-Desert-Patrol-6-Gal-Water-Jug/16537207

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Do some research on fire starting to save yourself some headaches. Try to save up some newspaper or packing paper to make your lives easier.

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Good luck and have fun. Sounds like an amazing trip!

Those are the poles, I actually edited my reply, perhaps while you were typing out yours.

I cant really say anything about the tent, you will have to trust the reviews. It still looks a bit heavy at almost 7lbs but with your budget I am not sure how much better you can do. You would need to bump up to probably close to $200 just for the tent. (For example: my wife and I took the marmot limelight 3 person tent out and it weighs in at just under 7lbs, I still felt it was really heavy splitting the cost.)

That sleeping bag has actually been debated recently. For the price it is hard to believe the claimed rating, there are concerns that it wont be warm enough. If you do go with that one you might want to try it out somewhere close to home/car first if you can.

I don't have a lot of experience with specific sleeping pads but the klymit static V insulated is a pretty popular budget option and has a 4.4 r value. It is currently $55. Its comfortable enough , my wife used that one when we went out.

If you happen to be near an REI check and see if they are having a members garage sale on December 1st, many locations are. They can have some huge discounts on gear, you just have to be careful before you buy as there are no returns. I got a 3.4lb 2 person tent for 60% off and the REI magma 10 sleeping bag for 50% off. The prices might be a little more than your current budget but you can really find some awesome prices on quality gear. If you aren't already a member it will be $20 to join (lifetime membership).

hey man welcome to bushcrafting so far you have a pretty decent list but i'd like to give you suggestions from what I learned throughout the years.

knife- good choice for chopping and batoning but too much blade to use whittling and making small cuts. generally you want to use either large blade/small blade or axe/ small blade combos.

backpack- 65L is very overkill unless your doing 5 day+ with clothing for every day. I would suggest something in the range of 45L max.

compass- do you know the area your going to or do you really know how to use it? I know every person says to just have one just in case but if they already know their terrain or dont even know how to use the dang thing its just wasting space.

ferro rod- generally stay away from things like multi use gear. also just from my experience you want a long rod (5"+) for more surface area to generate more sparks for an easier chance to catch fire.


pillow- I would not use hammock pillows for on ground sleeping. they're extremely small and have almost no support on the count of your body is in a curling position in a hammock. I would suggest something like an inflatable pillow for you to adjust for your support and then covering it with something like a shemagh or t-shirt.


first aid- your going to get more cuts, scrapes and burns so I would buy extra of that stuff, but I would also add some quick clot just for the off chance of having a serious injury out in the field. and also some moleskin for your feet and pain relievers. and dont forget sunscreen.


now for some additions for your gear loadout.

saw and stay away from those stupid hand chainsaws


cooking vessal


cowhide gloves


Again; welcome and I hope you enjoy yourself and grow with your errors out in the field.

I'm not sure where you live, but buying gear in Scandinavia will cost a pretty penny. You probably need an ~15F/-10C bag to be comfy (as the weather looks to low around freezing). Else look for a COMFORT RATING around freezing (32F/0C). While a $300+ bag will probably be "better" (by better I mostly mean lighter) you should be able to find something reasonable for quite a bit less assuming you don't live in Scandinavia. Both of the bags you were looking at are from reputable companies, I can't read them (google translate isn't working for the site) but if they are within the ratings above and are acceptable in size/weight they will be fine. Make sure to get a good mat if you don't have one. I recommend klymit. Hope this helps!

I'm loving these poles so far. Great price for the quality.
Kelty Cosmic Down is a great down bag that comes in lots of flavors. Not sure how cold it gets at night in Australia. A down quilt would be a good option if it's warm at night. This is a good down throw a lot of people use as a summer quilt.
Here's a great stove option that's a good price for the quality

As for tents and sleeping pads, that depends on how you sleep and if you're looking for a 1 or 2 person tent. The weather also is a factor for sleeping pads.

I've been using a Kelty Salida 2 for about 7 years now. It's a solid tent that didn't cost an arm and a leg.

I've eyeballed other tents but honestly, I like it because it's not too heavy, and can be set up in a pinch (there are just two poles, and the tent snaps onto them).

I've used it only a couple of times in the rain and it held up well. I've used it in the snow as well and it works just fine.

https://www.amazon.com/Kelty-Salida-2-People-Grey/dp/B00NFCFO0Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1522942630&sr=8-1&keywords=kelty%2Bsalida%2B2&th=1&psc=1

EDIT: I did immediately buy better stakes (the red MSR ones). It's worth the expense.

You and a hand warmer in a reflective bivvy bag, in a synthetic sleeping bag, under a cheap down quilt. You can probably put it together for near or under $100 (these links total $114.66), and you have options to adjust how warm you need it to be, so it works winter and summer.

I used this setup (with a different synthetic bag that was on sale at the time) for some very cold nights. The heat reflective bivvy is a little uncomfortable sometimes, but it makes things so much warmer (and it’s much more comfortable than a Mylar space blanket). I now have better down quilts and no sleeping bag at all. Synthetic bags often provide better insulation, but are also bulkier and heavier than down. I needed smaller, lighter insulation. I also now use a USB hand warmer instead. Never tried hot water in a Nalgene bottle. 🤷🏼‍♂️

This setup’s warm enough that I didn’t need to wear a lot of layers, just my base layer, wools socks, and a down jacket.

Spend the extra $20 on a Kelty tent if only for their customer service. My gf, myself and our dog fit in a Grand Mesa 2 we got for $125 CDN on Amazon. It's 4lbs even and the design is smart, I have nothing but good things to say about it.

https://www.amazon.com/Kelty-Salida-Camping-Backpacking-Tent/dp/B00NFCFO0Q/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=grand+mesa+2&qid=1563807872&s=gateway&sr=8-2

There is the Salida 2, I believe the difference between it and the Grand Mesa 2 is that the door on the Mesa is by your head rather than the side, so you can slide out instead of having to crawl over your partner.

For car camping I have a cheap-o $40 Walmart 4-5 person tent that can fit a double air mattress, and a bunch of packs. It's whatever the equivalent to Ozark Trail was 7 or 8 years ago. Super simple design but it's been dry through rainstorms as long as you stake out the fly. We use it several times per year, it takes like 5 minutes to set up.

We wouldn't want to use the backpacking tent (or sleeping pads) when we don't have to, so it's worth it for us to carry around the extra tent and cheap $10 air mattress but YMMV.

Get the Sawyer mini instead for $19: http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2

Anyone looking at this should look at the Sawyer as a (better) alternative.

Lifestraw:

• 264 gallons total filtration per straw.
  
• Shelf Life: 5 years when stored at room temperature (package may say 3 years).
  
• .2 micron filtration
  
  Sawyer filter:
  
  
• 100,000 gallons (actually more, but this is the guarantee)
  
• Shelf life: no limit on shelf life. Only temperature constraint is it should not be allowed to freeze.
  
• .1 micron filtration
  
  Lifestraw is $20. Sawyer is $20. I own the Sawyer and the flow through it is easy. It comes with a squeeze bag, but also attaches to regular bottles. Fill an empty Pepsi/Coke/Water bottle with nasty water, screw on the Sawyer and you are good to go. It works with Platypus bags, and as an inline or end filter for any hydration bladder.
  
  
  If there is something special about the Lifestraw that I am missing, please let me know. I see tons of news, charaties buying them for 3rd world countries, and outdoor enthusiast recommending it. I do not see any advantage it has over a Sawyer filter.
  
  Edit: One comparison: http://prepforshtf.com/sawyer-mini-water-filter-vs-lifestraw/
  
  For me, the multiple ways of using the Sawyer have been the biggest benefit. I've used my Squeeze in a bucket gravity system, attached to bottles (ultralight backpacking) and with a straw (like a Lifestraw). I will often squeeze enough water to fill a Gatorade bottle or two before moving away from the water source. Now I have the mini and the flow rate is even better - best of any filter I've ever used, and it is still incredibly versatile.

I'm doing my first camp in a long time next week with the scouts too. We are in Utah, but expect 30s overnight.

I am taking a cot, with an insulated sleeping pad, and a 0° bag. My son is fine in his 0° bag in a hammock, he's done a few at this temp without being too cold (even without an underquilt or pad).

I'm also a side sleeper, and feel too tight in mummy bags. I picked up a Teton Sports Polara bag, it was a little cheaper a month ago when I bought it. It's really nice. I tested it out with the cot and insulated pad, and it was very comfortable. It has a built in fleece liner that won't get all twisted because it clips and zips into the bag. They unzip fully, so you can get 2 and make a double bag. You can remove the fleece liner for warmer weather.

I will also be trying out an inflatable pillow for between my legs instead of a body pillow.

Check with your local REI store, see if they have a garage sale between now and the camp. You can get lots of stuff at about 70% off. I got my insulated stratus pad for $20 that's normally $100. Klymit makes a decent one that's well reviewed on Amazon and cheap.

Because I am rusty with camping, and getting involved with the local scouts, I will be camping more in the future, but have little to no supplies. I'm building my new supplies now. I have been reading a lot of Outdoor Gear Lab reviews, I like their reviews, they compare different brands instead of just reviewing one product at a time. That's what lead me to the Polara sleeping bag. They also usually have a budget pick.

Is the Coleman stove you use one that uses white gas? If so, look into getting one of their propane stoves instead. Much easier to use. Cooking for a family, I’d think you’d want something with two burners, so that rules out the backpacking stoves. I use this one and it works great. The temp control is a little finicky, but once you get used to it it’s not an issue.

For cookware and utensils, GSI and Stanley both have decent options that pack away nicely. I use a Toaks Titanium spork when camping as pretty much my only utensil and it works surprisingly well. I know Snow Peak makes a similar one, and Light My Fire has plastic spoon/fork options. For plates/bowls when car camping I just use cheapo plastic ones from Walmart. I think they were a couple bucks for five of them and they’re pretty bulletproof.

If you're really just wanting a tent for easy car camping, go with a Coleman Sun Dome 4 Person from Amazon. $65 bucks for the green model. I have this exact tent and bought it for this exact reason.

Took it to burning man twice, held up great. Took it to a car camp in the Sequoias, hailed on us hard, no rain leakage at all. Road tripped in September with it--Yosemite, Grand Canyon, Glacier, Mt Hood--worked great in every scenario.

Sets up quick and plenty durable. Only real issue is the weight, but that shouldn't be a problem for you. I'm pretty sure a queen blow up can fit inside.

Nice overview of your chargers. Good spread of sizes, weights and capacities and their applicabilities for different hikes! Ignore the complainers on here. They can do their own research if they don’t have the time watch your video!

Just for reference and info, I have the following banks for my treks:

Klarus CH1X

• This is my short trip charger, but can be expanded with swappable batteries.
  
• With battery, comes in at 2.9oz. I can add a second battery to double the capacity to 7k mAh and 4.7oz, or a third battery for 10.5k and 6.5oz
  
  Anker Powercore 10k
  
  
• When I just want to toss in a bank for the weekend and have enough juice to run my iphone, AppleWatch and headlamp while tracking my route with a GPS app.
  
• The lightest integrated bank that I’ve found, and regularly $25 on Amazon.
  
• 10k mAh and 6.35oz
  
  Anker Powercore 10k PD
  
  
• I recently went on a 2 week backpacking trip on the John Muir Trail, which requires stopping in at resorts periodically to charge up batteries. The standard battery banks take the better part of a day to recharge, but these newer “PD” banks use USB-C connections and higher wattage charging adapters to cut that down to less than 4 hours.
  
• A tad heavier than the older powercore and at a price premium of $45 (got mine on Amazon Day sale though), plus the price and weight of an 18W charger.
  
• 10k mAh and 6.7oz.
  
• I can also add the other Anker for a total of 20k mAh and 13oz
  
  Bonus item: Lixada “10W” Solar Panel
  
  
• Im not a fan of the bulky and heavy name brand solar chargers, but I f you’re not sucking down huge amounts of power every day, a cheap and light supplemental solar panel like this is a great addition. I’ve tested this several times on open (minimal shade) trails, plugged into the Anker while I hike and it does a surprisingly good job of topping off the bank or getting extra mA before needing to recharge on longer trips. Just remember to only plug this into a battery bank and not your phone directly.
  
• Trim some of the extra plastic off to save another ounce of weight. Do the math by pairing it with a smaller bank and you can come in at the same weight or less than a heavier bank.
  
• Real world output of 3W and 3.5oz

The Coleman Classic is $43 on Amazon.

That said, I really like my Camp Chef Everest. At its high end, it definitely puts out more heat than a Coleman Classic, and the Everest goes lower and simmers better, too. (Though the Coleman isn't horrible at simmering. I've certainly used other stoves that were worse.) The piezoelectric igniter on the Everest is a nice feature, too, though lighting a Coleman manually isn't really a problem.

If you just want something to cook on and don't want to spend too much money, the Coleman is perfectly fine. If you do a lot of fancier cooking and $100 isn't too much, go for the Everest.

I own a Snugpak TravelPak 2 sleeping bag. It's less bulky than some bags I've owned, I think it's around 2.5 lbs (which is very heavy for a 40° bag). It's rated to 30° but you'll freeze your butt of below 40. Upgraded to a down quilt and don't touch the TravelPak anymore. Not bag for a heavy beginner bag but I'd go with this bag if I could do it over again.

Right around November I purchased a Bunker 3 tent as well. It's a really nice tent. I like the fly-first pitch, I could see that coming in handy. I've used it a couple times and now have it up for sale. I'm getting into backpacking which means lighter stuff is preferred so at 7.5lbs the tent is just overkill. A great tent but I think you could grab a lighter weight Kelty for half the price.

My wife and I recently got a bum h of new gear for a trip we have coming up in April. In deciding what to get I did a lot of research price comparison and review reading. My eye was towards price for performance. When I looked at items I looked at online reviews the questions section on amazon(this is a great tool) and even looked up some of the manufacturers. Here is what I came up with and perhaps can help you with gear selection.

Tent I chose NTK Colorado I looked at tents from Coleman, Kelty and a few others and kept coming back to this one. It fit my budget and all the reviews for all their tents were very high. I looked up the company and it said they have been making tents for 40 years in Brazil. I will be test setting mine up today but it looks like a really solid tent for the money.


Air Mattress sound asleep this one I do have experience with as my kid has one and sleeps on it all the time. She has abused the heck out of it and it is still going strong. It was a no brainier for me on this one.


Cooler frosty cooler I wanted a yeti but 600 bucks is crazy for a cooler but still needed something better then a plastic Coleman. After looking at all the yeti clones this one seemed to stand out from the rest.


For sleeping bags what ever fits your budget I wouldn't spend a lot since your car camping you can bring blankets with you for both comfort and warmth.

Camp stove Coleman classic I have had mine for years and the damn thing keeps on going. No need to get fancy the classic Coleman does it well.


My trip is coming up the second week of April we will be going to Zion for four nights then the Grand Canyon for 4 nights then across to Texas where we will be camping just outside of Austin for the Moto GP race. For the tent and the cooler that I have not tested yet I will let you know how they preform.

Probably not, unless you have something to insulate you from the ground. You need a sleeping pad, and not just a regular air mattress. Something that is specifically designed to keep you warm when sleeping on the cold ground. Sleeping pads are usually rated by an "r-value". The higher the "r-value", the warmer it should keep you. There are cheap foam pads to very expensive inflatable pads. Doesn't look like you're form the US, so I am not sure how hard it would be to get your hands on a Klymit Insulated Static V, but they're pretty affordable, comfortable, and warm. They're not great for backpacking but they are great for car camping.

I'm not a fan of Coleman, but I spent a month in Africa with this Coleman North Rim 0 Degree Mummy (not a referral link), with night temps down near freezing, and it worked out great. $64 + 15% Off = $54 and free shipping. Allegedly only 3.5lbs, too. I liked this bag for sleeping on a stretcher as it was nice and wide and long enough to fit tall people, but I was able to use some of that extra space to roll up the top into a pillow. The construction also kept the wind off me.

Some of the reviews mention quality control problems with the zipper getting stuck, but I didn't have that issue, so perhaps they've since resolved it or it's isolated to production at a specific factory.

r/ultralight reporting

This stove is my pick. Uses canister fuel, very fast boiling time (about 3 minutes, but will vary by altitude) and only weighs 25g with an adjustable flame. I pair it with the toaks light 550mL pot.

That said, it's pretty much only suitable for boiling water. If you're car camping, you could still use it to make poached eggs or soups if you have the right ingredients. Cooking food inside a plastic bag is also a great option that allows you to get more creative.

I'll second the Mora blades. I have a couple like http://www.amazon.com/New-Swedish-Mil-Mora-Knife/dp/B004TNWD40 this one. If you poke around, you should find different colors in the $12-15 range. Very good steel on that blade - used it to field dress a couple deer and was still sharp.

Since space may be at a premium - many butcher shops in grocery stores will sharpen non-serrated blades for free.

I'd skip the flashlight and get a headlamp. The simpler ones without the battery pack on the back side of the head work nicely and double as a hand held light if you need it too.

For the mattress, hard to beat this price - Intex Inflatable Fabric Camping Mattress with Built-In Pillow, 72.5" x 26.5" x 6.75" https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00005BAIB/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_WLB6xbKDWT2SS

I've used them and they are quite comfortable. And only $8!

For the tent - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004J2GUOU/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_aHA4xbNBG6KXX. $60

Technically only a 4 person but 9x7 is pretty roomy for just four.

For the sleeping bags - All Season Mummy Sleeping Bag [87x32in] - Comfort Temperature Range of 32-60°F. Constructed with a Ripstop Waterproof Shell, Woven Polyester Liner & High-Loft Fill. Comfortably Fits Most up to 6'6. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DFT0R00/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_MRB6xbG9GZKH7. $42

Trust me when I say you don't want to cheep out on your tent, I learned it the hard way haha.
But if you are looking for a new tent I recently bought this one https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Sundome-4-Person-Tent-Green/dp/B004J2GUOU/ref=as_li_ss_tl?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1550065392&sr=1-3&linkCode=ll1&tag=ogman-20&linkId=76e6709343313199c8feb3459705a571 and I'm pretty happy with it.
I took it for a spin last week and I can say that it's very roomy and it stayed dry and warm even though it was raining all weekend.

Here are a couple options with brands that have a bit better of a reputation. Ultimately it’s your choice, but I would recommend going for a company that has a bit more of a following:

Kelty Salida 2:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NFCFO0Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_PhXyCb0V6QC8Y


Kelty Acadia 2:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JBSFI1M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_RiXyCbT3QEMH0


Alps Mountaineering Lynx 1 (also has a 2 person available):

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BMKD1DU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_pdXyCb85G6NR9


I don’t personally own these tents, but I know the quality should be there and the price point is in line with what you were thinking. Hope this helps ✌🏻

The quality is all pretty similar. The real difference is in feature set and ability to control the flame-for example there's a world of difference in flame control between a Primus Omnilite and a MSR Whisperlite even though both are high quality products with a proven track record of reliability.

Some of the cheap canister stoves are also pretty good quality, since there just isn't too much engineering that's needed to make one. The BRS stove is a good example of such. These things are really just a screw on valve assembly and a burner, not much else is needed.

I came here to post a similar question. I hope you don't mind if I piggyback with my questions since I am looking for very similar specs.

I've been looking at the featherstone, TNH, and the Kelty Salida 2-person tents. I've gone though a lot of the reviews on amazon's site, but I'm hoping reddit can point me in the best direction of these (or if there's another that is superior).

I use the ALPS Mountaineering Lynx 1. It's 3 pounds 8 oz and only $78. Not the absolutely lightest, but I've used it for dozens of nights camping in all conditions and it has never let me down. I also have an ALPS 20 degree mummy bag that is fantastic. I love their gear

For $6 you could buy this stove 15 times before buying a $100 MSR once. I'm pretty happy with it. Worth getting and trying for a weekend. if you don't like it it's a great stocking stuffer.

These things are a gimmick. Trust me, you'll have a decently hard time charging up 10000 mah with a 21watt anker folding solar panel, but these things dont do jack. Not only that, but lithium ion batteries are not build to withstand the heat that would be required in keeping that battery in direct sunlight for the extended amount of time it would require to actually charge it. I played this game already and learned the hard way. Get THIS and a multipurpose battery like THIS and save yourself the heartache.

The best bang for you buck:

Anker PowerPort Solar (21W Dual-Port USB Solar Charger) for iPhone 7 / 6s / 6 / Plus, iPad Air 2 / mini 3, Galaxy S6 / Edge / Plus and More https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B012YUJJM8/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_.lEJzb0EJVEEZ

High wattage, durable and a good price.

Edit: I didn't realize you were into options other than a solar panel. I personally have an Anker 10,000 mAH and an Aukey 10,500 mAH power banks and they're both awesome. I prefer the power banks over the solar charger.

My friend has the Teton 4000 65L pack.

Material is most certainly a cut above the thin stuff you'd expect on a Walmart pack but not quite the same level as mainstream packs like Osprey, Gregory etc. Don't abuse it and you'll be fine.

They make a 55L, the 3400 series, as well.

Double to triple the budget of the Teton packs and you're into the Osprey Volt (60L or 75L) or the Atmos (50 or 65L).

Try to get a pair with flip locks, instead of twist locks. Twist is the old tech, doesn't work well, and you'll wish you had flip if you put them side by side.

These cost more than the ones you link to, but are worth the price (still reasonable considering.) Have cork grips (better in sweaty hands), carbon fiber (lighter in weight but stronger than aluminum), flip locks (way easier to adjust and more trustworthy).

I've been very happy with the ALPS Mountaineering Lynx 1, which is less than $100.

However, since you have the van for when the weather gets rough, why not get an inexpensive 2-person tent at Walmart or Target? If you look at these links, you'll see some decent ones for around $50 or less. It would certainly be roomier for you and your furry pal. :)

Yeah I'm thinking I might start with a pair of the cheapest trekking poles I can find to see if I like using them. From what I've read, I'm not sure I'll actually get much benefit out of using them since I row (leg sport) and I have good knees. There's a Chinese brand that has $40 carbon poles on Amazon that actually look like decent quality. Apparently they can sometimes be found cheaper at Costco.

I also saw the Big Agnes Fishhook UL 2 on steepandcheap for $184. It's heavier (58 oz. vs. 41 oz.) and bulkier, and I'm trying to decide if that is worth $100.

I checked out the HG Burrow 40 with overfill, and it configures a bit lighter than the EE Rev 30 w/ treated down (and is basically the same price). So HG is the clear winner for a treated down bag, but EE has a cheaper untreated option. Basically the question becomes "Do I want to spend $20 more for treated down?".

Thanks for the link. I was about to pull the trigger on the Cascade Mountain poles on Amazon that have solid reviews, these look like they may be better and cheaper.


Link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00XM0YGW8/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1&th=1


Anyone have any recommendations between these 2?

FWIW, I am around 250 and 6'1" and I bought a Klymit Static V Insulated for less than $60 new and when I'm on my side my hip and shoulder don't touch the ground. Its R-Value is 4.4 vs 5 for the StoS, so real close. I have nothing bad to say about the Klymit air mattress- its sturdy, lightweight, and packs smaller than a water bottle. I even bought the non-insulated version for summer camping.

I absolutely love Sea to Summit stuff like dry sacs, pack covers, sleeping bag liners, and pillows, but I couldn't imagine spending that much on an air mattress when one half the price is fantastic.

We are in Texas so i think that will help in some aspects. It can get cold but the "comfortable" temp zones will be around a fair bit this fall.

This is the tent ive been leaning towards. Not full on tarp only but light enough to get the job done and with good reviews. Affordable enough to not hurt too much.

River Country Products Trekking Pole Tent, Ultralight Backpacking Tent, 2 Person All Weather Tent https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07537XGKQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_NDcXBbSG9JNKH

I have this, and the 4oz tank and stove pack perfectly into it if you take the cups out. Pretty much any cookset of the same form factor should work as well. Optimus Terra, the Esbit set, etc.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005188T90/ref=gl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=I0MRPGUG5HSP&coliid=I25X27QEKXLUNF&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-2-Port-Universal-PowerPort-Charger/dp/B012YUJJM8

I bought this after doing some research. In full sunlight it will charge my portable battery like it was plugged into a wall. But just be aware that solar chargers need solid sunlight to work well. You would probably be better off buying an EasyAcc 26000 mah portable battery which will be able to charge your phone for a week easily.

https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/family-camping-checklist.html

https://www.mec.ca/en/explore/camping-checklist

Nothing wrong with going with the classic green Coleman double burner propane stove. https://www.amazon.ca/The-Coleman-Company-2000020943NP-Classic/dp/B00005OU9D

But whatever cheap folding chairs you want since you only need two, figure out what you like and hate, then buy a better chair with that new knowledge. Cheap chairs that won't break if you don't abuse them cost about $10, so I think that's the way to go over spending $50+ right away.

For car camping, we've never had issues with Coleman coolers either. They're not expensive, you can buy ice at the camp store, and some of them are quite large. Really, any cooler should be fine for car camping because you can buy ice, so the more important factors in choosing one are probably capacity and ease of use (separated half lids, drainage, handles).

$100 tent is hard to come by, especially a backpacking size one, especially one that will be used daily for over a month.

I would check REI garage, classifieds/craigslist, /r/geartrade, ebay, etc. Otherwise your money won't go far.

This is about all I can recommend, but I'm not necessarily recommending it.. Kind of the lesser of all evils

https://www.amazon.com/Kelty-Salida-2-People-Grey/dp/B00NFCFO0Q

I have a Kelty tent and it's fine, but the stitching has come out in places, the fabric can rip more easily than a nicer tent, and it isn't my favorite thing to set up. The price can hardly be beat for a new tent though.

I am looking at some budget pads like the Trail Scout or the Klymit V Lightweight. Sounds like the consensus so far is manual. Might wait until I can afford a better manual one.

http://www.amazon.com/Ultralight-Backpacking-Canister-Stove-Ignition/dp/B004U8CP88
Bam. My friend has one and it works just as well as my PocketRocket. The Piezo ignition doesn't work for shit but who cares, you should have matches or a lighter with you anyway. Less than $8. Can't beat it.

Truth. I've backpacked for years with a $100 Kelty tent - heavy rains and wind no problem - and a $100 Marmot bag. Somewhere around 2005 it suddenly became easy to get good, cheap outdoor gear. It's not ultralight, but it's close enough.

The pad is a different story. Until recently you had to spend big to get something comfortable and reliable. Now that Thermarest has competition, prices have been halved. Our Klymits have lasted many nights outside with no problems, and I see great reviews for similar pads at half the price.

Stanley Adventure Camp Cook Set 24oz Stainless Steel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005188T90/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_gmXsDbDGKCPZV

This one has been great for me! Also comes with two cups.

I use an Anker battery. I'll bring the 1000 for shorter trips and the 20000 for anything over 5 days. Most people don't need the 20000 but I end up shooting and editing photos a lot on longer trips. Plus I love listening to podcasts/audiobooks and use Guthook or other phone maps depending on the trail. The Ankers are bomb proof, I brought one on the entire PCT and it's still going strong today.

Check out r/Ultralight for more suggestions. They get really serious about straight gear talk and no one will tell you to disconnect when you ask about electronics. Look how insane this thread is about battery chargers haha.

Were you sleeping on a pad? That makes a world of difference between staying warm or freezing at night. Most inflatable air mattresses suck heat away from you, so a closed cell foam mat would help. Also, what you wear in the bag helps. I usually sleep in long sleeve merino base layers, wool socks and even a hat.

I have this big, heavy Coleman North Rim bag for cold weather car camping duty. Pretty cheap too.

https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-North-Adult-Mummy-Sleeping/dp/B0009PUSO4

I recommend this one: http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000007827-Sundome-4-Person-Tent/dp/B004J2GUOU/

Amazon Deal of the Day, normally $65 on sale for $40 today only, tons of good reviews. I'm getting one.

morakniv is the way to go

Edit: they have other variations, but all of their knives are excellent for price points

These are pretty popular over at /r/ultralight

you can still get those on amazon for $43 I have them and they are pretty nice

I have this tent in 1 man and 2 man and they're both awesome! Top notch qulity for the price. Just read the reviews for yourself. Don't sleep on amazon. Plus you'll have extra money to spend on other camping gear that you'll need. https://www.amazon.com/ALPS-Mountaineering-Lynx-1-Person-Tent/dp/B00BMKD1DU

These are a pair of poles I picked up as my first pair. They are generally recommended for beginners. You should pick up a pair, they are great.

The Klymit Insulated Static V might be a good option, especially for colder temperatures. I just bought one for an upcoming trip and have tried it out but haven't slept on it yet, but it seems to get a lot of good reviews.

This is a solid budget friendly pot I use (ditch the green cups). It boils water for backpacking meals and will take a beating.

this one



Now if you have deep pockets get any titanium pot from Amazon and save 4/5oz's

I've been using this $8 stove I got on Amazon, and so far it's been working just as well as my friend's Pocket Rocket. Just putting that out there.

But out of curiosity, where would you recommend finding used gear?

For a cheap, lightweight cook kit, get the BRS Ultralight stove for $15, the Imusa 10cm aluminum mug for $10 and fashion a lid out of a pie tin or something.

• Stove weight = 0.95 oz
  
• Mug weight = 2.5 oz
  
• Full gas canister weight = 7.5 oz
  
• Total = 10.95 oz
  
• Total cost = $30
  
  This type of system works best for boiling water to hydrate freezer bag meals or Mountain House-type of freeze-dried meals.

https://www.amazon.com/River-Country-Products-Ultralight-Backpacking/dp/B07537XGKQ/ref=asc_df_B07537XGKQ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=217987956883&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1535760388204293514&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9009575&hvtargid=pla-385289970155&psc=1

I have one of these even though I've only used it once. Quality feels amazing compared to some shit like a coleman...Homemade Wanderlust on YouTube reviewed one and liked it.

I ordered directly from the manufacturer tho. I just pulled up the quickest link.

So I am going to get a Mora blade, it is between these three, that are all close to each other!

http://www.amazon.com/New-Swedish-Mil-Mora-Knife/dp/B004TNWD40

http://www.amazon.com/Mora-Companion-Heavy-Duty-Knife/dp/B009NZVZ3E/ref=pd_sbs_sg_2

http://www.amazon.com/Mora-HighQ-Robust-Knife-Carbon/dp/B00816PZ8W/ref=pd_sim_sg_1

At this point the $5 differences aren't an issue, what would be my best bet of those three?

Personally, I'd go with a portable charger instead of solar. I use the Anker Powercore 10000 on long trips and it's rock solid. 6.5 oz weight ding but as I use a rechargeable headlamp it's more than worth the weight. Only 24 bucks marked down from 50 on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerCore-Ultra-Compact-High-speed-Technology/dp/B0194WDVHI

http://www.amazon.com/Morakniv-Companion-Outdoor-Military-4-1-Inch/dp/B004TNWD40/

I like carbon steel blades, but I also like sharpening knives....

I can't comment on the MSR but I figured you wouldn't mind someone else's comment about their gear. I use the ALPS Mountaineering Lynx and have been nothing but happy with it. Of course since the top is a mesh you need a very warm bag in the winter, but it's light, freestanding, and has kept me dry in the rain.

Unfortunately, the only vestibule for gear is a small hanging pouch that came with it. But it's actually on sale for about 90 bucks on amazon if you want to check out some other reviews.

(http://www.amazon.com/ALPS-Mountaineering-5024617-Lynx-1-Person/dp/B00BMKD1DU/ref=sr_1_1?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1452111816&sr=1-1&refinements=p_n_size_browse-bin%3A2204488011)

I suggest Stanley Adventure Camp Cook Set 24oz Stainless Steel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005188T90/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_tPdSAb2ZQ65Y6

And a small plastic plate. Remove one of the cups and you stove will fit in the pot when packed.

I just bought these and they are amazing. Also only $29 at Costco. http://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Carbon-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI

Everyone loves a Morakniv

I use an older Klymit Insulated Static V with my 20° backcountry bed. Fits nicely. Amazon says I bought it in 2016 so it has held together for some time with frequent use.

I'm thinking it's this? I guess it's sold at Costco as well for like $20 or something.

http://www.amazon.com/Double-Black-Diamond-Packable-Throw/dp/B015D47MVW

Yes. So will $5 stoves from Amazon.
Stove

Titanium mug and a mini gas burner? Then buy your own butane in Reykjavik.

The smallest 100g canister will be good for 15-20 cups of smoking hot coffee.

Maybe he means the BRS stove on Amazon that sells for like 13-15$
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00NNMF70U/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1478337502&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=brs+stove&dpPl=1&dpID=31OzI0vXTFL&ref=plSrch

I've used pocket rockets and alcohol stoves for a good while. Lately I've been using the BSR Ulralight stove http://www.amazon.com/BRS-Ultralight-Camping-Outdoor-Cooking/dp/B00NNMF70U. Really cheap and light if you go the canister stove route.
Any stove you use will need to kept steady and level. As long as the canister isn't rocking you shouldn't have an issue.

This is lighter then the micro rocket and much cheaper then both the pocket rocket and micro rocket.

http://www.amazon.com/BRS-Ultralight-Camping-Outdoor-Cooking/dp/B00NNMF70U

Others on the Ultralight subreddit have recommended this stove as well.

For hikes under a week getting power banks are going to be your optimal option. Works rain or shine, less expensive, less risk of breaking, lighter, more power for the weight, and less expensive. I've had a lot of luck with my anker so I would recommend it to someone else. At less than half a pound you'd still 3+ cell phone charges per unit which I can attest to. Anker 10k mAh

It's one of these. However, at Costco (US) they're only like 20 bucks!

http://www.amazon.com/Double-Black-Diamond-Packable-Throw/dp/B015D47MVW

All of the items below are very inexpensive but not necessarily cheaply made. You can get lighter, but you’ll pay a lot more.

This tent:
Featherstone Outdoor UL Granite... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0727Y4XLT?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

This stove:
Hamans BRS BRS-3000T Ultralight... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H77FV4C?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

This cookset:
Stanley Adventure Camp Cook Set 24oz Stainless Steel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005188T90/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ybHgDb62GJ9VQ

Could someone help me compare this pack and this one. I'm looking for an entry pack that I can take on a 2-3 (at most) trip.

All you need is this Stanley cook pot (just don't use the extra cups) and you can fit your fuel, stove, lighter, a small sponge, and still have a little room. Only $14.

EDIT: Also, if you're looking for a mug in addition to a pot, there are designs that match the popular GSI for half the price...I think it might nest in this set-up too.I heard Wal-Mart has them but I can't remember the name.

I would think something like a down throw blanket. Something along the lines of this: https://www.amazon.com/Double-Black-Diamond-Packable-Throw/dp/B015D47MVW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1472963036&sr=8-3&keywords=down+throw

This used to be my go-to stove until I discovered the BRS3000T. Weighs less than an ounce and functions quite well for an ultralight $17 stove.

BRS Outdoor Camping Gas Cooking Stove Portable Ultralight Burner 25g https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NNMF70U/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_E-FJAbMW831GN

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XM0YGW8/

These are the costco ones, a bit cheaper and well regarded.

Of course!

Kelty Salida Camping and Backpacking Tent https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NFCFO0Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_eb3OCbGBMPAFE

I just got mine on amazon

Just thought I’d chime in here and say if you are looking at getting the klymit static v Amazon has it on sale today for 41 bucks and some change

Klymit Static V Lightweight Sleeping Pad, Green/Char Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007RFG0NM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_4wRTzb65DNP21

While it goes down to around this price every now and then, it's not the usual price. You can track prices for any Amazon product using camelcamelcamel.com, BTW. Here's the price history for this product.

If you want lightweight and small, you can't beat the BRS 3000T. It's also cheap, too. You can also get it on Aliexpress for a few bucks cheaper if you don't mind waiting longer to get it.

I bought an Anker 14W Solar Charger earlier this year for emergency backup to charge my external battery (updated version here). It works great. But I end up just using my KMASHI 15000 mAh external battery and leave my solar panels at home when camping/hiking. I get about 5 full battery charges on my Nexus 5 with the 15000mAh battery. More than enough for my uses.

$72

https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000007827-Sundome-4-Person-Tent/dp/B004J2GUOU/ref=sr_1_1?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1506452413&sr=1-1&keywords=4+person+tent

http://www.amazon.com/Morakniv-Companion-Outdoor-Military-4-1-Inch/dp/B004TNWD40

Now personally I would sy you dont need a firestarter. What I've always carried is a zippo lighter, with a butane insert from thunderbird.

http://www.amazon.com/Zippo-236-Black-Crackle-Lighter/dp/B0006L8MTY/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1459002537&sr=1-1&keywords=zippo+black+crackle 13$

http://www.amazon.com/Thunderbird-Vector-Lighter-Insert-Regular/dp/B009Z2GB16/ref=pd_sim_121_3?ie=UTF8&dpID=31pq1fa90ML&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR118%2C160_&refRID=1PQJGAE9NZ4JFTX7E6YS 13$

The butane insert isnt really necessary, but I prefer butane over the liquid that zippos typically use because they don't evaporate.

http://www.amazon.com/Ultralight-Backpacking-Canister-Stove-Ignition/dp/B004U8CP88/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1368227199&sr=8-1&keywords=ultralight+stove

New king of bang for the buck stove, and it's reliable. When do you see both those checked off for any product.

Stanley cook set, DZO cup , gsi cup , snowpeak life max stove , jetboil canister holder , Keith ti spork . MSR fuel, lighter, small bottle, and micro fiber rag were found at either REI or Walmart.

Is this better?

https://smile.amazon.com/Klymit-Static-Lightweight-Sleeping-Green/dp/B007RFG0NM

deals end in 4 hours

There is a 4-season version that is also on sale today.

This one: Alps Mountaineering Lynx
https://www.amazon.com/ALPS-Mountaineering-Lynx-1-Person-Tent/dp/B00BMKD1DU?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_1

Sawyer Mini water filter. 1 for $15.46, 2 for $29.47
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=twister_B06XVV54DF

For that price range, here are a few I’d consider, if I was buying.

Eureka Amari Pass 3 Person Tent Lime/Grey Green One Size https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AA25TRM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_BP83BbMDPJ1B4

Kelty Salida Camping and Backpacking Tent https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NFCFO0Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_AL83Bb5EHFQ0Y

Cabelas brand tent.
https://www.cabelas.com/product/null/2437120.uts

For a few bucks more, I’d go with:
Eureka Suma 2 Backpacking Tent - 2 Person https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078T2NVSP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_JW83BbMJJTY8Q

What about these?

https://www.amazon.com/BRS-Outdoor-Camping-Portable-Ultralight/dp/B00NNMF70U

https://www.amazon.com/Etekcity-Ultralight-Portable-Backpacking-Ignition/dp/B00B4FY8YO/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1511994082&sr=1-3&keywords=backpacking+stove

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charger-PowerPort-iPhone-Galaxy/dp/B012YUJJM8

River Country Products Trekking Pole Tent, Ultralight Backpacking Tent, 2 Person All Weather Tent
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07537XGKQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_m.yMBbZYTM1B6

Ridge rest classic $20:

https://www.amazon.com/Therm-A-Rest-6432-Therm-a-Rest-RidgeRest-Classic/dp/B00HANOY9I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492572762&sr=81&keywords=closed%2Bcell%2Bfoam%2Bsleeping%2Bpad&th=1&psc=1

 

Eureka Solitaire $85:

https://www.amazon.com/Eureka-Solitaire-Tent-sleeps-1/dp/B000EQCVNY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492573017&sr=8-1&keywords=eureka+tent

 

AEGISMAX Down Bag $65:

https://www.amazon.com/AEGISMAX-Outdoor-Urltra-Light-sleeping-Urltra-compactable/dp/B00XE2SKG2/

 

Not the best gear on the planet, but serviceable if that is a hardline budget.

This tent is great, haven't tested it in the winter yet but I have no doubts with a proper mat and bag you'd be fine.
If wind/cold is a concern I would reccomend the first gen version which is what I have.
2nd gen has large ventilation cutouts.

1st Gen
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07537XGKQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_B3RHDb68ZAT6K

2nd gen
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FNVTNSL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_w1RHDbGDDW747

https://www.amazon.com/TETON-SPORTS-121-High-Performance-Backpacking/dp/B000F34ZKS/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?adgrpid=57608577553&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhLSEicWt4gIVFbbACh1hUg4hEAAYASAAEgLdifD_BwE&hvadid=274684609815&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9052573&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=b&hvrand=16934333135453329411&hvtargid=aud-648278611385%3Akwd-299276976955&hydadcr=17110_9496591&keywords=teton+hiking+backpack&qid=1558473204&s=gateway&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1

I have a Teton and I have no complaints of the bag. Seems to receive good ratings and very affordable.

Only gets as low as low-sixties in the summer here and I'm going in a few weeks. Not too sure if I'll camp much in the winter (or at all, really). I want to get back into it, but unsure of how much time I can invest into camping again. Not sure if I should get this, or just go cheap and get a cheap synthetic Coleman. Generic question, but thoughts?


Realistically, I would probably only need something that will be fine in warm-weather camping. In the spring, it can get as low as 40 in the mornings, and in the summers, it's around 60.

I like down because of how lightweight and long-lasting it is, but it does get humid in the summers here. And I probably would only take the bag out 1-2 times per year.

My wishlist for this year:

• ZPacks 900 Fill Down - Lightest warmest 900 fill down sleeping bag on the market and for a reasonable price! Sadly I can't afford it for my 6 month bicycle tour that I'm going on this year :'( I'm stuck lugging around a 4lb synthetic sleeping bag that takes up about 25L of volume - If I had the ZPack sleeping bag I wouldn't need a front rack and two front panniers which would save me considerable weight as well.
  
  
• Ortlieb Folding Bowl 5L - This folding bowl serves multiple purposes and can be used for doing laundry, washing dishes, washing smelly feet, and can even be used reverse side for food prep.
  
  
• Sawyer Mini Water Filtration System - Most versatile compact water filtration system (I don't really need this one yet but it will come in handy for future trips outside of North America)
  
  
• Keen Commuter 3 - Hiking/Biking sandal with SPD cleats (Apparently Keen Commuter 4 is coming out this year so I will wait and see how much that one has improved)
  
  
• Icebreaker Anatomica Boxers - I would have bought these for only $18CAD but they don't have any in my size :'( I can't justify spending $30+ on a pair of boxers on my budget
  
  
• Therm-a-rest Evolite Plus - I have a feeling this is going to be on par if not better than the NeroAir XLite because apparently it doesn't crinkle nearly as much! If I didn't already buy a Trail Pro this year then I would be purchasing the Evolite Plus
  
  
  Future trips wishlist:
  
  
  
• MSR Dromedary Water Bladder 4L
  
  
• dhb Merino Zip Neck Base Layer 200
  
  
  Stuff I bought this year:
  
  
  
• Hennessy Hammock Expedition Asym Zip - Can't wait to try this out, it only weighs 2.4lbs, takes up little space since no tent poles, and it can be used virtually anywhere
  
  
• Thermarest Trail Pro Sleeping Pad - I don't why it's marked "Irregular"? There's nothing wrong with it, no blemishes or anything
  
  
• Eureka Cimarron 15 Degree Sleeping Bag - This sleeping bag is stupidly heavy, but cheap and very warm
  
  
• Marmot Zeus Down Vest - 700 Fill Power - Lightweight warm high quality down vest that I got for stupidly cheap (Originally $200CAD got it on sale for $76CAD 61% off!)
  
  
• Icebreaker Tech Lite National Park Shirt - 100% merino wool T-shirt for only $40CAD, nothing to complain about there
  
  I actually have a Green MSR Hubba Hubba with Gear Shed that I bought last year and only used for a handful of days last Summer - no wear N tear at all. I'm going to be selling it soon for a steal at $420CAD on Amazon.ca (would cost you $620CAD+ to buy new) if you are interested feel free to let me know. Here is what it looks like http://i.imgur.com/hSjfpZb.jpg except the gear shed vestibule expands more than that http://i.imgur.com/ePVtarF.jpg

Gear sellers on Amazon are fast and loose when it comes to calling something 'lightweight'.

It's probably fine for what it is. Says it's pre-waterproofed with silicone, which isn't anything fancy but a matter of convenience (I do that to tents as a matter of course). But for the weight and features it looks roughly comparable to a Coleman-style tent you'd find at any big box retailer, and for a similar price (at least on the left side of the pond).

If you're only attracted because of the price, check out the River Country Products trekking pole tent:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07537XGKQ/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_rWFbBbH2DYHTY

I bought this a few months ago. It's currently on sale for crazy low because it's not available again until June, and they've upgraded it to lightweight aluminum stakes since I bought it (I had to buy those separately) which puts the weight at 2 lbs and some change (roughly a kilo). It doesn't come with poles though - it's designed to be used with trekking poles or sticks you find (or poles you add yourself).

Don't know what shipping to the UK would run you, but the thing is so cheap right now it's probably worth it. I found it because I'm a tall dude who was tired of dome style tents - my head is always at the edge of the tent so the walls slope a few inches above my face - and I wanted something with vertical side walls; then I noticed how lightweight it was, and I think I have accidentally discovered the best deal in lightweight tents out there right now.

Thought about posting about it here or/and at /r/ultralight, but there's so much spam here, I didn't want to be accused of being a spammer. :(

I'd love to be able to recommend good cheap gear I've found without feeling like a corporate whore.

It costs 37€ in Germany.... Wtf Amazon... :/

http://www.amazon.de/Sawyer-Wasserfilter-Wasseraufbereitung-Outdoor-Filter/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407264857&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=sawyermin

I know Coleman isn't the sharpest tool in the shed when compared to some high tech hiking/camping gear companies but here's my .2 cents. I started hiking this year. I bought this bag https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004HTYU2Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1, it's a 40 degree, $50(at the time) bag that weights about 3lb. I wrap it in a tarp which also serves as my tent pad and strap it under my 33L osprey. I have gotten used to it and see no issues with the setup. now moving into the winter I'm getting the winter version of this bag https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009PUSO4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1. I'll have it this week so if ur still in the market i can give u the rundown of what I see.
I guess the take away here is that some gear is meant to last for a LONG time. I prefer to know what I want before I make a bigger investment so when I start having problems, I'll upgrade.

Out of convenience, I usually use an artisan instant coffee like Voila.

If I really want actual coffee grounds, I’ll bring the grounds in a plastic bag and use a tea strainer. It works well. Just get water near boil, drop in tea strainer with grounds, lightly stir. This is the exact one I use: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075K57B73/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_UUA6BbJCMDBJN

As for a stove, I use this ridiculously light and cheap Chinese stove. Quantity is not great but it’s dirt cheap and I’ve never had one show up not functional. Some will leak gas for an instant when you screw the stove on (more than you’d expect), some don’t. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NNMF70U/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_2VA6BbGGSBA02

But it's become so popular on Amazon and eBay that now there are sellers with "BRS-3000T" in the description or title selling an entirely different small stove that weighs twice as much and, in one type I tried, conducted so much heat to the stem that the valve geometry changed and stopped the gas flow until it cooled of.


Here's one on Amazon that has (at least has a photo of) a real BRS-3000T:https://www.amazon.com/BRS-Outdoor-Camping-Portable-Ultralight/dp/B00NNMF70U/ref=asc_df_B00NNMF70U/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198072135009&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16301542988954434560&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033901&hvtargid=pla-317875287747&psc=1#customerReviews and the price looks right (currently $17-$19, it was $13 several years ago).


Here's a listing on Amazon for a "BRS-3000T" that isn't. That brass stem is both a warning sign and part of the problem (it conducts too much heat downward). You'd think "How can you go wrong for $6?", but you can. A stove that shuts off after 2-3 minutes is not only super annoying but also potentially VERY dangerous because once it's cooled off, it will vent unburned gas through the stove head: https://www.ebay.com/i/273601044072?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=273601044072&targetid=595076215808&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9033901&poi=&campaignid=6470636535&mkgroupid=77538519077&rlsatarget=pla-595076215808&abcId=1140476&merchantid=118868785&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1uaEj8um5QIVj_hkCh2nCwTLEAQYAyABEgI_rvD_BwE