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u/kantbot · 2 pointsr/DarkEnlightenment

Shakespeare is a bad analog, because very little is known about Shakespeare, Shakespeare's life isn't documented in the same way that Goethe's is. Goethe's entire life was a work of art:

>After he moved to Weimar the daily chronicle of his doings, now being put together for the first time in seven large volumes by Robert Steiger, is practically continuous, especially once he began to keep a regular diary in 1796. Accounts of conversations with him, excluding Eckermann's famous collection, run to some 4,000 printed pages, over 12,000 letters from him are extant and about 20,000 letters addressed to him. His official papers run to four volumes, and Wilhelm Bode filled another three with contemporary gossip about him, extracted from the correspondence and diaries of third parties. There may be parallels to this flood of documentation for an individual life, though few surely can be sustained over so long a period -- Voltaire or Gladstone perhaps? certainly not Napoleon. What makes Goethe's case manifestly unique is the quantity, quality, and nature of the literary and scientific writing which caused this interest in him and which expands indefinitely our potential knowledge of his inner life through its unceasing stream of reflection on the events and projects of his outward career."

>-Introduction to Volume One of Boyle's "Goethe"

Goethe's career is difficult to pin down, which is why attempts to summarize it (wikipedia) always fail to really convey the true spirit of his accomplishment, he is the modern thinker par excellence, and he was much much more than just a writer.

He was an artist for one, a fairly good one at that, who studied in Rome and taught drawing at the Weimar academy. This is really nice little work he did that I especially like, from 1810, a collection of twenty two drawings of landscapes around Jena. Besides painting and drawing Goethe was also involved in a wide array of engineering, architecture, and design projects. He designed the theater in Weimar (which burned down in 1825), the Roman house, he oversaw the reconstruction of the Ducal Palace, he toured mines across Germany, made mechanical sketches of the first steam engines, and headed the opening of silver mines in Ilmenau. He was also an insatiable collector and connoisseur of mineralogical specimens, incised gems, coins, and artistic prints and drawings, and was the Weimar librarian to boot.

He lived a hearty, active, and masculine life, he climbed an active Mount Vesuvius, he accompanied the Duke during the War of the First Coalition. He loved ice skating, and would throw outdoor masquerade balls on the frozen Ilm river during the winter, where he would wear a devil mask and skate around with roman candles taped to each of the horns. Every year he would throw an Easter egg hunt for the children of Weimar in his garden home. He was a loving husband and father of four children (only one of whom survived infancy sadly). When in Jena his son August would play with Schiller's son beneath his window, and he would tease them by dangling treats over their heads on lengths of string.

He sat on the war and highway commissions as Privy Councilor, he acted in the capacity of diplomat and mentor to the Grand Duke. He served as managing director of the Weimar theater for more than twenty years, staging everything from Shakespeare to Schiller to the Magic Flute. As administrator of the University of Jena he was the one responsible for bringing people like Schiller and Fichte there as professors, he "collected" them, he collected friends and colleagues like he collected works of art, he was a connoisseur of contemporary intellectuals.

And all that's not even counting his writing. In the English speaking world most readers have little idea of who Goethe was or what his actual literary accomplishments were, besides Faust I that is, but make no mistake, Goethe was a master of every genre and style of literary writing known to man. Besides Faust he wrote several other Shakespearean-level classics, "Egmont", "Iphigenia in Tauris", "Tasso", and "The Natural Daughter". His real genius was for the novel however, Goethe is probably the greatest novelist, aesthetically speaking, who ever lived. His three mature novels, "Wilhelm Meister's Apprenticeship", "Elective Affinities", and "Wilhelm Meister's Journeyman Years" are absolutely astonishing works of creative brilliance. The Journeyman Years especially is experimental and forward-thinking beyond the novel-writing of our own day even...

As a lyric poet his verses are the cornerstone of an entire genre of classical music, the "lied", the 19th century art-song. Schubert especially is renowned above all else for his settings of Goethe.

Sorry, there's just too much to say about him, you can't even begin to do him justice in a wikipedia article or reddit post.

u/HyperboreanNRx · 1 pointr/DarkEnlightenment

>No, it's that modern people score ~120 on older tests. We can test living people with older tests, we can't test dead people with new tests.

No, the implication is also that older people score lower on modern tests. In the Dumfries and Des Moines tests this was shown to be the case when comparing similar population groups across generations when testing on the new full-form tests like the WAIS-IV but the Raven's Progressive Matrices tests showed very little or negative gains in crystallized IQ and slight gains in both in fluid intelligence.

Re-norming of tests is designed with this in mind because they are re-normed on a culturally-adapted basis.

>How would that work? The flynn effect has been observed in people taking THE OLDER TESTS.

You're misunderstanding how tests are normed. When I started administering IQ tests in 2006 we had fewer sections and a greater focus on actual IQ, which is to say arithmetic and verbal ability.

You have obviously not read enough data regarding the Flynn Effect if you don't understand how it work. The Flynn Effect heavily uses g as a basis for comparison in the absence of actual testing.


>Flynn found that the highest gains are not on subtests that measure vocab and arithmetic, but rather on culturally-loaded subtests with questions like “How are dogs and rabbits similar?” that can illicit different answers depending on one’s everyday life experience.

>Flynn says our modern lives are more cognitively demanding and so we’ve acquired something he calls, “scientific spectacles.” Today, we are more likely to answer using abstract categories, like, dogs and rabbits are mammals, rather than the more concrete, like, dogs and rabbits are pets.

Culturally adapted tests provide these new and differing results thanks to their innate cultural bias.

Strict IQ tests do not favor the new generation or show a great increase except in theory and with test comparisons and not in result comparisons.

>Good to know you are an old person. Because one thing hunting another something does make them similar.

The point is to note they are both animals used in a sport or that they're pets of some sort and not that they are both the abstract, "animal," as such.

>That study you gave at the bottom is full of it. IQ cannot be determined by reaction time only. I have a fairly low reaction time, but above average IQ.

Did you read it? People had worse scores on digit spanning tests. Digit spanning is a direct test still used today to test memory. The abstract only seems to note the basic psychometric measure they use to derive g differences and not where they get the actual IQ differences but the average differences in abstracts in their place.

g is an abstract form of crystallized IQ measure that is best suited in giving averages and curves and is not necessarily indicative of your exact IQ.

I recommend reading the whole thing and the rest of The Flynn Effect Re-Evaluated in it's entirety.



You've entirely missed the point in how these tests are created, what they are based upon, or how they are developed and how that development has changed in recent years.
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I didn't want to wholly offend you with how I stated it but that is how I saw it so I've decided to link some excellent books on the matter.

Here are...

The g Factor: The Science of Mental Ability by Arthur Jensen

What is Intelligence?: Beyond the Flynn Effect by James Flynn

A Negative Flynn Effect in Finland by Edward Dutton and edited by Richard Lynn

A Beautiful Theory, Killed by a Nasty, Ugly
Little Fact
by Alan Kaufman, Thomas Dillon, and Jeffrey Kirsch

IQ and Global Inequality by Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen

Ethnic Conflicts: Their Biological Roots in Ethnic Nepotism by Tatu Vanhanen

IQ and the Wealth of Nations by Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen and Ron Unz' critiques, Lynn's responses.

u/Atavisionary · 2 pointsr/DarkEnlightenment

Men and women aren't equal for mostly biological reasons. It may be more subtle than racial differences but it is there and knowable. Feminists have campaigned for and gotten laws which privilege women in ways that are socially, culturally, economically and demographically destructive. It is far more destructive than you are giving it credit for. Yes they can and should be held to account for this, and this is why there is substantial overlap between the red pill and DE, with the main difference being a desire on our part to restore more traditional and healthy gender relations while the red pill more usually supports exploiting the new environment maximally for personal benefit. Even if the goals are different, it is clear that that community has put in a lot of work sussing out the realities underpinning sex differences to a significant degree and any factual information should be used regardless of the source.

There is not much if any risk of theredpill users coming here en masse. Hasn't happened yet and there is no good reason why that would change.

u/theshadowonthewall · 2 pointsr/DarkEnlightenment

There has never been a collapse everywhere at once. So when one region collapses, another is in a rebirth.

Naill Ferguson simplifies things with his "Six killer apps of Civilization". When this article was written, China had 5 out of 6 of the apps. They are now getting the 6th.

http://www.npr.org/2011/11/02/141942357/how-the-west-beat-the-rest-six-killer-apps

"Why the west rules for now" this author is interesting in that he divides humans into 7 major groups. But the then goes PC correct and says geography determines things.

But he again shows there is a similar pattern.

http://www.amazon.com/Why-West-Rules-Now-Patterns/dp/0312611692

The speed of rebirth is a lot quicker. Mao drove China into the stone age, less then 40 years later they are building projects like these.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/13/business/international/in-china-projects-to-make-great-wall-feel-small-.html?_r=0

Snide comments like that where made about the Empire state building, Hoover dam etc 80 years ago. What the critics failed to reason is that the project itself might be useless, but it is what is learned in the process.

In the book "Why the west rules for now" is people forget the amount of ideas that where transfered from India/China to Britain. A civil service is an Indian/Chinese invention. The Brits go ahold of the idea and improved on it. By the same token, China is getting western ideas that work, fusing them to their own culture and improving on them.

Later the "west" when it rebirths, will take the new and improved Chinese ideas and improve on them.

u/un_passant · 2 pointsr/DarkEnlightenment

> For the agent provocateur, I am just pointing out that we do not know the details.The agent could either be from a law enforcement group or possibly a media outlet who wants a story. The book www.amazon.com/Trust-Me-Lying-Confessions-Manipulator/dp/1591846285 talks about how he went and slapped sexist posters around town and then took pictures of them to create a story.

Of course you'll never know the details. That is why you have to use your brain. What were the outcome for those involved ? Where those outcome predictable ? You can then probably assume that the predictable outcomes where the goals of the perpretretors and infer their motives / identity.

Have those threads resulted in a crackdown on videogame misogyny ? Have they helped the target or harmed/destroyed their (professional) life ?

>Personally I would say the elites have shifted from supporting the right wing to supporting the left wing since they see them as less of a threat.

The elite support both right-wing and left wings on social issues (gay marriage), so as to pretend that we have a healty democracy, laughing all the way to the bank.

u/chewingofthecud · 3 pointsr/DarkEnlightenment

It's probably best to start with an overview by someone other than Jung himself. In that case maybe start with Jung: A Very Short Introduction.

If you want to read the man himself but aren't too familiar with him, try this in order:

u/ikacer · 2 pointsr/DarkEnlightenment

I've read some Jung, but am not an expert.

Jung wrote about a million essays and there is no single definitive work. Both parts of volume 9 of his collected works are generally considered to contain his most important essays, but they also contain some unimportant stuff and are expensive.

I'd say start with this:

https://www.amazon.com/Modern-Search-Soul-C-G-Jung/dp/0156612062/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8

It is popular and all the essays are good.

u/MiyegomboBayartsogt · 2 pointsr/DarkEnlightenment

Albion’s Seed by David Fischer: Scottish Presbyterians used to wear red cloth around their neck to symbolize their religion; other Englishmen nicknamed them “rednecks”. This may be the origin of the popular slur against Americans of "Scots/Irish descent, although many other etiologies have been proposed.

u/Nemester · 5 pointsr/DarkEnlightenment

For people who are interested in more information on AIPAC, there was a book published a few years ago by a Harvard and a university of chicago professor:

http://www.amazon.com/Israel-Lobby-U-S-Foreign-Policy/dp/0374531501

Here is the wiki on it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Israel_Lobby_and_U.S._Foreign_Policy

u/sir_wankalot_here · 0 pointsr/DarkEnlightenment

> Ferguson and aftermath so far shows that cops CAN crack down on what was intended to be a serious racial uprising.

Cause a problem and then fix it, in the process take away more rights. Have morons like you cheer. Read naill Ferguson's book on Civilization, the weat and the rest. Western countries are going to enter a new form of feudalism. In the old form of feudalism Catholism ruled things, the new form of feudalism will be ruled by political correctness.

www.amazon.com/Civilization-West-Rest-Niall-Ferguson/dp/0143122061

u/Trumpspired · 1 pointr/DarkEnlightenment

There is no such thing as Einstinean 4D space. The thing is completely insane. Einstein is/was mainly pushed by the (((media))).

https://www.amazon.com/Relativity-Reexamined-Leon-Brillouin/dp/0124337783

https://www.amazon.com/Causality-Electromagnetic-Induction-Gravitation-Gravitational/dp/0917406230/

Matter/space are both polarities of one thing. They are inextricable not time which is just a measurement. You can't have space without matter. Time is simply the measurement of movement. Objects are born, reach, maturity and then die in a cycle. That is what time measures.

Read Walter Russell. Real science which is based on the never ending movement between the two polarities underlying existence. Masculine/feminine, contraction/expansion, yin/yang, centripetal/centrifugal. Order collapses into decay and is reborn.


u/tofurocks · 33 pointsr/DarkEnlightenment

----------------Diversity and Ethnocentrism Hate Facts------------------

More diverse neighborhoods have lower social cohesion. http://www.citylab.com/housing/2013/11/paradox-diverse-communities/7614/

Diversity increases psychotic experiences. http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/201/4/282.abstract?etoc

Diversity increases social adversity. http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/201/4/282.abstract?etoc

A 10% increase in diversity doubles the chance of psychotic episodes. http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/201/4/282.abstract?etoc

Diversity reduces voter registration, political efficacy, charity, and number of friendships. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-9477.2007.00176.x/abstract;jsessionid=279C92A7EB0946BBA63D62937FC832A9.f04t03

Ethnic diversity reduces happiness and quality of life. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-9477.2007.00176.x/abstract;jsessionid=279C92A7EB0946BBA63D62937FC832A9.f04t03

Diversity reduces trust, civic participation, and civic health. http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity/?page=full

Ethnocentrism is rational, biological, and genetic in origin. http://www.pnas.org/content/108/4/1262.abstract

Ethnic diversity harms health for hispanics and blacks. http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.2012.300787

Babies demostrate ethnocentrism before exposure to non-whites. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-7687.2012.01138.x/full

Ethnocentrism is universal and likely evolved in origin. http://www-personal.umich.edu/~axe/research/AxHamm_Ethno.pdf

Diversity primarily hurts the dominant ethnic group. http://www.theindependentaustralian.com.au/node/57

Ethnic diversity reduces concern for the environment. http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10640-012-9619-6

Ethnic diversity within 80 meters of a person reduces social trust. http://curis.ku.dk/ws/files/130251172/Dinesen_S_nderskov_Ethnic_Diversity_and_Social_Trust_Forthcoming_ASR.pdf

Ethnic diversity directly reduces strong communities. https://www.msu.edu/~zpneal/publications/neal-diversitysoc.pdf

Ethnically homogenous neighborhoods are beneficial for health. https://www.mailman.columbia.edu/public-health-now/news/living-ethnically-homogenous-area-boosts-health-minority-seniors

Diversity in American cities correlates with segregation. http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-most-diverse-cities-are-often-the-most-segregated/

Races are extended families. Ethnocentrism is genetically rational. http://www.amazon.com/The-Ethnic-Phenomenon-Pierre-Berghe/dp/0275927091

It is evolutionary rational to be friends with someone genetically similar to you. http://www.livescience.com/46791-friends-share-genes.html

Racism and nationalism are rational and evolutionary advantageous strategies. http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/16/3/7.html

Homogeneous polities have less crime, less civil war, and more altruism. http://www.theindependentaustralian.com.au/node/57

States with little diversity have more democracy, less corruption, and less inequality. http://www.theindependentaustralian.com.au/node/57

There is extensive evidence people prefer others who are genetically similar. http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/n&n 2005-1.pdf

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-----------------------Gender and Sexuality Hate Facts-----------------------

Gay men are 60x more likely to have HIV than straight men. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3462414/

Women with more sexual partners are more likely to divorce. http://s3.amazonaws.com/thf_media/2003/pdf/Bookofcharts.pdf

Women with more than 20 sexual partners have an 80% chance of divorce. http://s3.amazonaws.com/thf_media/2003/pdf/Bookofcharts.pdf

White and Asian women have more successful marriages than black or Hispanic women. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr049.pdf

Gay people are 2-3x more likely to abuse alcohol than straight people. http://www.amazon.com/Unequal-Opportunity-Disparities-Affecting-Bisexual/dp/0195301536

A women’s number of sex partners is linearly linked to alcohol and drug abuse. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3752789/

Gay men are six times more likely to commit suicide than straight men. http://www.amazon.com/Unequal-Opportunity-Disparities-Affecting-Bisexual/dp/0195301536

Gay men are 12x more likely to use amphetamines than straight men. http://www.amazon.com/Unequal-Opportunity-Disparities-Affecting-Bisexual/dp/0195301536

Gay men are 10x more likely to use heroin than straight men. http://www.amazon.com/Unequal-Opportunity-Disparities-Affecting-Bisexual/dp/0195301536

Liberal arguments in favor of homosexuality are based on logical fallacies. http://hrcak.srce.hr/index.php?show=clanak&id_clanak_jezik=19028&lang=en

Transsexuals who undergo sex reassignment surgery are more likely to commit suicide. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21364939

College majors with a greater proportion of women have lower average IQ’s among their students. http://www.randalolson.com/2014/06/25/average-iq-of-students-by-college-major-and-gender-ratio/

Less attractive women are more likely to want careers. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2129456/Do-girls-want-career-attract-man-Provocative-study-casts-high-fliers-new-light.html

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35% of Palestinians have a favorable opinion of Al Qeada. http://www.pewglobal.org/files/2013/09/Pew-Global-Attitudes-Project-Extremism-Report-Final-9-10-135.pdf

40% of British Muslims want Shariah law. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

1 in eight Muslims worldwide has a favorable view of al Quaeda. http://www.pewglobal.org/files/2013/09/Pew-Global-Attitudes-Project-Extremism-Report-Final-9-10-135.pdf

1 in 3 Muslims favorably views Hamas, a known terrorist organization. http://www.pewglobal.org/files/2013/09/Pew-Global-Attitudes-Project-Extremism-Report-Final-9-10-135.pdf

25% of Egyptian Muslims support terrorist attacks to enforce Shariah law. http://www.pewglobal.org/files/2013/09/Pew-Global-Attitudes-Project-Extremism-Report-Final-9-10-135.pdf

1/5 British Muslims sympathize with the 7/7 terrorist attack. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

65% of European Muslims believe that Shariah law is more important than the law of the country they reside in. https://www.wzb.eu/sites/default/files/u6/koopmans_englisch_ed.pdf

European Muslims are 7.5x more likely to be fundamentalists than Christians. https://www.wzb.eu/sites/default/files/u6/koopmans_englisch_ed.pdf

45% of European Muslims believe that Jews cannot be trusted. https://www.wzb.eu/sites/default/files/u6/koopmans_englisch_ed.pdf

60% of European Muslims are explicitly homphobic. This is not due to poverty or education. https://www.wzb.eu/sites/default/files/u6/koopmans_englisch_ed.pdf

40% of Palestinians support attacks on US civilians in America. http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

87% of Egyptians agree with Al Qaeda’s goals. http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

78% of Egyptians support attacks on US soldiers in the Middle East. http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

62% of Palestinians support the use of suicide bombings. http://www.pewglobal.org/files/2013/09/Pew-Global-Attitudes-Project-Extremism-Report-Final-9-10-135.pdf

28% of British Muslims would like for Britain to become a fundamentalist Islamic state. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/many-british-muslims-put-islam-first/

68% of British Muslims support criminalizing criticism of Islam. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/many-british-muslims-put-islam-first/

3 out of 4 British Muslims support criminalizing drawings of Mohammed. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/many-british-muslims-put-islam-first/

9% of British Muslims define themselves as “hardcore Islamists”. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/many-british-muslims-put-islam-first/

Only 3% of British Muslims support free speech. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/many-british-muslims-put-islam-first/

0/500 British Muslims believe that homosexuality is morally acceptable. http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/may/07/muslims-britain-france-germany-homosexuality

38% of Muslims believe 9/11 was partially or wholly justified. http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/just-like-us-really

62% of Canadian Muslims want Shariah law. http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01/strong-support-for-shariah-in-canada

More than 1 in 3 Canadian Muslims refuses to repudiate Al Qaeda. http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01/strong-support-for-shariah-in-canada

Britain will become a Muslim country by 2050 if demographic trends continue. http://www.thecommentator.com/article/3770/the_islamic_future_of_britain

At least 85 legally binding Sharia courts operate in Britain. http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf

85% of rapists in Sweden were non-Swedish immigrants. http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

North African migrants to Sweden are 23 times more likely to rape than native Swedes. http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

African migrants to Sweden are 16 times more likely to rape than ethnic Swedes. http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

Iraqi migrants to Sweden are 2000% more likely to rape than real Swedes. http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

More than 1/2 of rapists in Denmark are immigrants. http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape