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I honestly can't imagine how hard it must be, but I offer you my empathy, solidarity and respect. It is awesome that you are speaking out and I really hope it helps your healing process. I totally agree with you (and many other exited people) who speak to the fact that most of those trapped in the system of misogynistic sexual exploitation are silenced by the demands of survival-- which is why it always just stuns me when someone -is- able to speak out.

I guess this is probably more for readers than for you, as you probably already know it, but on the off chance you haven't heard of it yet I highly recommend Rachel Moran's memoir about her journey through prostitution: http://www.amazon.com/Paid-My-Journey-Through-Prostitution/dp/0717156028

Again, best wishes and thank you for your insight!

There have been a lot of studies that find that school teachers give more attention to boys: they call on boys more frequently, they wait longer for boys to articulate their thoughts, they use more eye contact with boys, they reward boys more often for speaking out while punishing girls for the same behavior. Here's a book about it. The authors, Sadker and Sadker, wrote another article in 2004 about the same stuff, but I can't find a copy of it online.

There was a study that came out of Israel a couple of years ago where they found that teachers gave girls lower grades on a math test when they knew the kids were girls.

MtF trans people benefit from these sorts of teachers' biases as long as MtF trans people are in the closet. What I mean is: until a trans person comes out as trans--at 15, at 26, at 50--everyone around them will treat them as their birth sex, and so even if a MtF trans person doesn't feel like a boy inside while they're in school, the teachers around them will still treat them like boys, not like girls.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Red_Book_(Jung)

The Owl Was a Baker's Daughter : Obesity, Anorexia Nervosa, and the Repressed Feminine, 1980 Inner City Books. ISBN 0-919123-03-1

Addiction to Perfection : The Still Unravished Bride, 1982 Inner City Books. ISBN 0-919123-11-2

The Pregnant Virgin : A Process of Psychological Transformation, 1985 Inner City Books. ISBN 0-919123-20-1

The Ravaged Bridegroom : Masculinity in Women, 1990 Inner City Books. ISBN 0-919123-42-2

Leaving My Father's House : A Journey to Conscious Femininity (co-authored with Kate Danson, Mary Hamilton, Rita Greer Allen), 1992 Shambhala Publications. ISBN 0-87773-896-3 (PB edition)

Conscious Femininity : Interviews With Marion Woodman, 1993 Inner City Books. ISBN 0-919123-59-7

Dancing in the Flames : The Dark Goddess in the Transformation of Consciousness (co-authored with Elinor Dickson), 1996 Shambhala Publications. ISBN 1-57062-313-9 (PB edition)

Coming Home to Myself : Daily Reflections for a Woman's Body and Soul (co-authored with Jill Mellick), April 2001 (paperback ed.) Conari Press. ISBN 1-57324-566-6

The Maiden King : The Reunion of Masculine and Feminine (co-authored with Robert Bly), November 1998, Henry Holt & Co; ISBN 0-8050-5777-3

> Can you give sources on gender identity's derivation of sexual functions?

It is philosophy of mind called functionalism. There are plenty of papers where authors claim that every feeling is derivation of functions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functionalism_(philosophy_of_mind)

>Your explanation doesn't really explain why the development of agp makes evolutionary sense.

Poiani in this book https://www.amazon.com/Animal-Homosexuality-Perspective-Aldo-Poiani/dp/0521145147 explained the role on self domestication and neoteny in the evolution of primate sexuality.


>Why would the development of hsts trans people be the same as the evolution of homosexuality?

Because HSTS are essentially homosexuals.

>What separates the two groups?

Social context. In one social context homosexuals are third gender, in another they are trans women, in another - gays, in another - abomination.

Start by taking a look at the work of Brown University's Katharine A. Phillips, MD (https://iocdf.org/providers/phillips-katharine/). She's a psychiatrist who has written extensively on body dysmorphic disorder (BDD), its relationship with obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) and the high suicidality rate of BDD sufferers. Also, she directs the Body Dysmorphic Disorder Program at Rhode Island Hospital.

Here's an easy to read 2006 news article about some of Phiilips work surrounding BDD:

(http://banderasnews.com/0608/hb-highrisk.htm).

A more academic paper by Phillips (2007) on the suicidality of BDD sufferers is available for free here:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2361388/

It's only a hop, skip and a jump from BDD to Gender Dysphoria (GD), in my opinion, despite some protestations to the contrary. The leap from Body Identity Integrity Disorder (BIID) to GD isn't that big either. As Phillips (2007) points out regarding BDD:

> Although individuals with BDD appear normal looking to others, they are preoccupied with distressing and time-consuming thoughts that some aspect of their physical appearance looks flawed or defective. They may worry, for example, that they have very noticeable acne, their skin is too red or terribly scarred, their hair is thinning, their nose is too large or misshapen, their head is too big, or their stomach is huge and protuberant. The appearance
concerns can focus on any body area, and preoccupation with multiple body areas is common. The appearance preoccupations are obsessional, occurring on average for 3–8 hours per day. The beliefs about the perceived appearance defects are usually delusional or characterized by poor insight.


These clinical features of BDD should sound very familiar to anyone familiar with GD. The latter are obsessed with their genitals among other things. The delusional beliefs and the poor insight of BDD sufferers particularly intrigue me. You could say the same about many transwomen (TW) regarding GD.

Given trans people love to point out their high suicide rate (or attempt rate), notice that BDD sufferers are prone to suicide, too. Per Phillps (2007):

> Suicidal ideation, suicide attempts, and completed suicide appear common in individuals with body dysmorphic disorder (BDD). Available evidence indicates that approximately 80% of individuals with BDD experience lifetime suicidal ideation and 24% to 28% have attempted suicide.

As for any relationship between OCD and GD, Phillips and Kaye (2011) explain in a book on obsessive-compulsive spectrum disorders (OCSD):

> Body dysmorphic disorder (BDD) and eating disorders have long been hypothesized to be related to obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD). More recently, since the advent of the obsessive-compulsive spectrum disorders (OCSDs) concept, they have been considered candidates for inclusion in this grouping of disorders....Body dysmorphic disorder (BDD) has been considered closely related to OCD for more than a century, and it is widely conceptualized as an OCSD....

(See chapter 2 in http://stop-abuse.ru/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Eric_Hollander_Obsessive-compulsive_Spectrum_DisBookZZ.org_.pdf)

Unsurprisingly, brain imaging is popular among OCD researchers, too:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29159060

Everybody wants an easy answer regarding the cause of a medical problem -- be it OCD, transgenderism, homosexuality or god knows what else. Easy answers rarely exist.

p.s. Katherine Phillips wrote a book called The Adonis Complex. I haven't seen it yet but it sounds interesting. Maybe the complex is relevant to some transwomen claiming that they couldn't fit in and function as a man.

https://www.amazon.com/Adonis-Complex-Identify-Prevent-Obsession/dp/068486911X