(Part 3) Top products from r/Israel

With respect to the Haredi community, you're probably right; however, the question arises: Is it possible to evoke pressure from the inside? Put differently, is the Haredi community so well isolated that it will be essentially unresponsive to any outside influence whatsoever? On the other hand, are there ways to effectively appeal to change?

I'm thinking of some parallel to Slavenka Drakulic's description of the true Iron Curtain during the Soviet era being made up of "glossy pictures of beautiful women in amazing clothes," i.e. representing a winsome boundary with the West marked by appeal and not just partition. (Can't remember if this was in Cafe Europa or How We Survived Communism and Even Laughed.)

Thanks for finding the source of the quote claiming that "Israel is worth five CIAs". Looks like it originated in Wolf Blitzer's book Between Washington and Jerusalem: A Reporter's Notebook. Blitzer interviewed Keegan.

The quote itself is a distortion of what Blitzer cites the general as saying. Which was that he could not have gotten the same amount of intelligence about Soviet weapons capabilities "with five CIAs". Only to the logic-challenged does this amount to the blanket generalization that "Israel is worth five CIAs".

As for Keegan's having been the "head of Air Force intelligence", clearly he was not. Unless "assistant chief of staff" equates to "head". For hasbara, anything is possible. To be fair, the NY Times reviewer in your link does use the phrase "Air Force intelligence chief", so perhaps we should blame him, or maybe that is how Blitzer (wrongly) described him. Don't forget Blitzer's origins as a journalist and his time at AIPAC. Blitzer usually does a pretty good job of pretending to be objective.

Ironically, exactly at the time Blitzer's book was published (November 14, 1985) the American Jonathan Pollard was less than a week away from being arrested for perpetrating one of the most damaging security breaches in American history. Of course he was not working for America, he was working as a spy for his favorite country Israel. Israel worth five CIAs? What a joke.

http://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Type-2nd-revised-expanded/dp/1568989695/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1320103677&sr=8-3

http://www.amazon.com/Interaction-Color-Expanded-Josef-Albers/dp/0300115954/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1320104020&sr=8-1


http://www.amazon.com/Power-Center-Composition-Visual-Anniversary/dp/0520261267/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1320103713&sr=8-1 (this one can be a bit esoteric but if you stick with it, its good)

There are also roughly 6 elements to keep in mind when making compositions and you will have to read more about them and seek out examples. they vary depending on where you look but this has some: http://www.wiu.edu/art/courses/handouts/princdesign.html

This also has some good material: http://photoinf.com/General/Robert_Berdan/Composition_and_the_Elements_of_Visual_Design.htm

None of those links are perfect, and they are not quite the way I learned it either, but you should just do exercises to work on them. For example, In a 5x5 square, do compositions using just 10 dots of the same size. Make each composition represent a word such as unity, variety, movement, stillness, and others like that. Thats just a quick example.

jewish israel is a very much militaristic society, so pretty much everything/everyone that somehow contributes to army is viewed very positively.
this is a very good book on the topic: https://www.amazon.com/Making-Israeli-Militarism-Uri-Ben-Eliezer/dp/0253333873?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0

I don't know why you just quoted that part, but the fact that Palestinian newspapers (1911) were using the term Palestinian is enough textual proof that the people of the land called themselves Palestinians, including Jews and Christians. That is fact.


I hope you're not trying to perpetuate the myth behind the slogan "A land without a people for a people without a land." It's a defunct view. There was a civilization already in place on that land, a civilization that endured many significant historical events, such as the Crusades. As the Ottoman census records show Palestine was widely inhabited in the late 19th and early 20th century, especially in the rural areas where agriculture was the main profession. According to Justine McCarthy (p. 26), an authority on the Ottoman Turks, Palestine's population in the early 19th century was 350,000, and in 1914 Palestine had a population of 657,000 Muslim Arabs, 81,000 Christian Arabs, and 59,000 Jews (including many European Jews from the first and second Aliyah).


As for common culture, language, and sense of nationality I hope you're joking about that. It really does make me doubt that you have Arab friends or even live in Israel since it demonstrates such a gross ignorance of the Palestinian people. But at the same time, the Israeli educational system is typically weak when it comes to teaching about the history of the land. I could list a hundred distinct Palestinian customs particular to their culture that are not found anywhere else in the Arab world. And I could point out to you a great number of linguistic differences in their Arabic. That doesn't even include the distinct and ancient languages found among Palestinians, although most of them are pretty much dead now.


Why would I ask the Sunni and Shi'a in Iraq about Palestine?

IMHO Michael Oren's Six Days of War is the best book on the '67 war.

But then again, Michael Oren is one of my personal heroes, so I'm biased.

If you really want to know, I recommend this book: 1948: A History of the First Arab-Israeli War by Benny Morris.

Per the article, he ended up self-publishing. The book is available on Amazon here. I'm about to grab a copy myself.

Palestine Betrayed, by Efraim Karsh

https://www.amazon.com/Brigade-Epic-Story-Vengeance-Salvation/dp/006093283X

It sounds very much like you're a recent graduate of Alan Derschowitz/ADL School of Middle Eastern "History".

The fact is mainstream Israeli historians have accepted that ethnic cleansing (including massacres) occurred. The main focus of debate is now on the extent to which it was planned and orchestrated by the Israeli leadership.

See for instance Schlomo Ben Ami -Historian and former Israeli foreign minister:-

>reality on the ground [during the 1948 war:] an Arab community in a state of terror facing a ruthless Israeli army whose path to victory was paved not only by its exploits against the regular Arab armies, but also by the intimidation, and at times atrocities and massacres, it perpetrated against the civilian Arab community.

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>philosophy of transfer, [which] had a long pedigree in Zionist thought, provided a legitimate environment for commanders in the field actively to encourage the eviction of the local population.

Israeli lobbyists have nothing to do with the drone strikes in Pakistan. Take some responsibility for what your country does. You probably voted for Obama, didn't you?

> I just don't see any good reason why Israel deserves all these money more than other countries? Do you have one? WHat makes them so special or so chosen?

Ah, a teachable moment. I suggest the following book. It's a bit dated, but the overall points still hold up.

http://www.amazon.com/The-36-Billion-Bargain-Assistance/dp/0231071973/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406745516&sr=8-1&keywords=the+36+billion+bargain

Read before you blabber.

Bitch.

Here is a good place to start: [The Fatal Embrace: Jews and the State]http://www.amazon.com/Fatal-Embrace-Jews-State/dp/0226296660)

>Editorial Reviews
From Publishers Weekly
Ginsberg's inquiry into the rise of anti-Semitism in the United States is sensitive, unflinching and lucid. He predicts that the "unthinkable" could happen--a political alliance of radical populists and respected conservatives who make vigorous use of virulent anti-Semitic themes to attack liberal Democrats. A Johns Hopkins political science professor, Ginsberg bases this conclusion on a broad analysis of Jews' shifting relationship to state power, from the Civil War through the New Deal to the collapse of the Jewish/Republican alliance as the Bush administration downgraded the importance of the state of Israel in U.S. foreign policy. The opening chapter shows how Jews have played key roles throughout history in building liberal, absolutist, monarchist and socialist regimes, offering their services and skills in exchange for protection and opportunity--a sometimes "fatal embrace" that, in Ginsberg's analysis, often provokes organized anti-Semitism.

Please feel free to read the other reviews - or the book itself.

In a nutshell, it is the perpetual clanishness, ethnocentrism, xenophobia, racism, and constantly viewing all host nations as either enemies to be vanquished or marks to be exploited for the gain of your tribe that has brought Jews to calamity time and time again throughout their history.

As the Ginsberg (Jewish) clearly demonstrates, Jews are not oblivious to the turmoil that they habitually create time and again, yet they continue on the path.

Strange behavior indeed.

It was the Israelis who sought to portray Iran is an implacable threat because they wanted to prevent the US and Iran from getting along

https://www.amazon.com/Treacherous-Alliance-Secret-Dealings-Israel/dp/0300143117

Netanyahu exaggerates the "Iranian threat" because it distracts from his political problems at home

http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-02-27/israeli-government-has-exaggerated-iranian-nuclear-threat-years

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/11431083/Israels-Netanyahu-exaggerated-Iranian-nuclear-threat.html

> During the Second Intifada, Dr. David Applebaum invented a special method to treat wounded people transported to the emergency room. In New York, Dr. Applebaum showed slides illustrating how it is possible to treat “44 injured people in 28 minutes,” as he had done after a terrorist attack in Jerusalem. Then he returned to Israel and took his daughter Nava to Cafe Hillel, the day before her wedding was supposed to take place. Both of them were killed by a suicide bomber. Applebaum’s method has been copied around the world.

This was a really sad story, there is a good book that talks about it in greater detail its http://www.amazon.com/Terror-Israel-Coped-America-Learn/dp/0253349184 used for .99 cents