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I wanted to let you guys know a little bit about what's been done and what's kind of in the works over at the JBRCE. u/-searchinGirl has been doing some editing as well as what this post announces.

One thing that someone expressed was that citations in certain sections aren't well rounded enough and don't incorporate some of the newer books and materials. I feel the best way to do this quickly is to crowdsource the work.

We need to get citations and material from two of the newer books, specifically Kolar's and Woodward's. What I propose is that we do like a book club here and we can kill two birds with one stone.

We'll start with Kolar and as we read each week, we'll discuss the book as well as hopefully harvest citations for the JBRCE.

The previous mod wanted to do a book club and it went about 3 weeks and stopped. I'm not going to let that happen this time. We'll see this one through to the end.

If you don't own James Kolar's book and you want to be a part of this book club, go ahead and buy it now so you'll be ready. It appears his website is out of them right now, but Amazon has them in stock for around $14 and up.

We'll get together and devise a schedule and some other organization and we'll figure out how best to go about it.

After we do that one, we'll do Paula Woodward's book. I know that lots of people dislike Paula Woodward. I understand that. Still, it is a book that is about this case by a well known figure in the orbit of this case. It's noteworthy even if you disagree with Paula or her book.

I think this is a good opportunity for everyone to have a good discussion. It's one book from each 'side'. I would be interested in any ideas or suggestions anyone might have regarding this project.

Yeah I thought that was a great quote!!

That's why the RN was so clever as well as calling all the friends over. The whole house was contaminated.

The name of the book is, "I Will Find You."

https://www.amazon.com/Will-Find-You-Fighting-Homicide/dp/1478922427

Idk about you but Homicide Hunter is one of my favorite shows. :)

> It doesn't matter whether Mary Lacy believed him or not.

Team Ramsey hired him.

I recently read the JBR chapter in his book

https://www.amazon.com/Cases-That-Haunt-Us/dp/0671017063

The Cases that Haunt Us.

I like John Douglas a lot, but this was written in about 2000 or so, and he makes some "deductions" based on his experience that turn out to be erroneous in retrospect.

As I recall, one was "strangulation before head injury", and I am pretty sure forensic scientists have determined it was head injury, then strangulation as coupe de gras. He made some assumptions based on his presumed sequence that I do not think fit.

>Edit: It was mentioned they put up a reward,

I think the reward kind of faded away many years ago?

Madame, it is on Kindle Unlimited in USA:

https://www.amazon.com/Foreign-Faction-Really-Kidnapped-JonBenet/dp/098476321X/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=james+kolar&qid=1574910037&sr=8-1

> Get the free trial, grab the book

Note: I suspect Ms. Vanessa Clark Love may be Lin Wood in disguise! She is VERY clever!

That is what authors do, promote their book. This isn't just about the murder of his daughter but his journey to find his faith and survive his grief. It's a wonderful book actually.

https://www.amazon.com/Other-Side-Suffering-JonBenet-Journey-ebook/dp/B004QX07F0#reader_B004QX07F0

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Your continuing posts that increasingly reveal your abysmal grasp of DNA I am finding increasingly tedious. So much so I've given up replying - almost. I was so intrigued by the 'Gordon Coombes and the 4 markers' comment that I had to go google it. And look what I came up with - your source - SuperDave! Highly acknowledged guru from Websleuths on all topics JonBenet related. Also author of self published highly acclaimed book 'An Angel Betrayed' https://www.amazon.com/Angel-Betrayed-Corruption-Destroyed-Investigation/dp/1618977083

Here it is - the quote from the man himself, where does he come up with such pronouncements? - "Thanks to Gordon Coombes, we know that they were only using a four-marker standard to "match" the touch DNA to the underwear DNA. WHICH, it's helpful to point out, only had the 9-1/2 markers, and they had to amplify it to get THAT many." http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?142791-Possible-NEW-Suspects-In-JonBenet-Ramsey-Case/page35

Oh SuperDave!! I can't believe it!! We meet again

Cindy was serious.

Source is this book which I think
Is really good

https://www.amazon.com/Mommys-Little-Girl-Anthony-Daughter-ebook/dp/B003H4I4LI/ref=mp_s_a_1_10?keywords=casey+anthony&qid=1573608097&rnid=2941120011&s=books&sr=1-10

Little Girl Blu

I bought and read most of the book:

https://www.amazon.com/Ruled-Solving-JonBenet-Ramsey-Case-ebook/dp/B00HNWYIEM/ref=sr_1_16?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1519062118&sr=1-16&keywords=jonbenet+ramsey

https://www.amazon.com/Fatal-Justice-Jerry-Potter/dp/0393315444

READ

Ok, but removing the middle track means the train is useless as a toy, it will not work. It also not meant to be removed, which means you'd have to use tools. It doesn't just snap off.

Lionel track
http://www.trainsontracks.com/lionel-model-trains-lionel-o-1-2-straight-track-6.html

HO track
https://www.amazon.com/Nickel-Silver-Straight-Atlas-Trains/dp/B000H6XL9O

The reason one rail looks longer is there is a "connector" that must be used to connect the tracks together. You need one for each rail at each connection.

>I'm not sure why it's such a problem for me or anyone to have an opinion like this.

It's not a problem but also realize that you're holding a position, it's not an opinion like "strawberry ice cream is the best ice cream flavor". I disagree that it's pointless to "argue" about things that are "only theories". This isn't a philosophy class, it's a murder case with real-life evidence. Even if all we can do is speculate with limited evidence, one still has to use verifiable information and evidence and reason to uphold one's position.

>Know anymore good books dealing with this?

Schiller's book, Steve Thomas's book, Kolar's book are essential reads.

The latter two worked officially on the case and had access to the full spectrum of evidence, unlike Douglas who was hired privately by the Ramseys and was given cherry-picked evidence by their attorneys.

One solid documentary that takes an even-handed -- yet realistic -- look at the spiraling Ramsey case saga appeared on Reelz network a few years ago. It's called, Overkill: The Unsolved Murder of JonBenet. The Executive Producer is Lawrence Schiller (Perfect Murder, Perfect Town).

>This would explain the books found in the Ramsey's home about kids behavioral problems

The Hurried Child--Growing Up Too Fast, by David Elkind

https://www.amazon.com/Hurried-Child-Growing-Fast-Third/dp/0738204412

Dr. David Elkind eloquently called our attention to the dangers of exposing our children to overwhelming pressures, pressures that can lead to a wide range of childhood and teenage crises. Internationally recognized as the voice of reason and compassion, Dr. Elkind showed that in blurring the boundaries of what is age appropriate, by expecting-or imposing-too much too soon, we force our kids to grow up far too fast.

Children at Risk, Dobson/Bauer

https://www.amazon.com/Children-at-Risk-James-Dobson/dp/0849934141

In this hard-hitting and empowering book, James Dobson and Gary Bauer expose the cultural forces endangering today's children and show what you can do to defend your family, your faith and your traditional values.

Why Johnny Can't Tell Right From Wrong, Kilpatrick

https://www.amazon.com/Johnny-Cant-Tell-Right-Wrong/dp/0671870734

America today suffers from unprecedented rates of teenage pregnancy, drug abuse, suicide, and violence. Most of the programs intended to deal with these problems have failed because, according to William Kilpatrick, schools and parents have abandoned the moral teaching they once provided.

>his toileting issues

A former nanny who got paid by the tabloid that carried the story, gave an account of BR smearing feces on a bathroom wall during PR's first bout with cancer, years before the murder.