(Part 3) Top products from r/Libertarian

This is arguably the best book on libertarianism: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

"No legal plunder: This is the principle of justice, peace, order, stability, harmony, and logic."

"But how is this legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime."

This is probably the other classic I'd recommend.
http://www.amazon.com/Road-Serfdom-Fiftieth-Anniversary/dp/0226320618

I would recommend seeing the total picture of Objectivism, and seeing it is a superior ideology than libertarianism (or that Objectivism is in a way libertarianism, plus much, much, much more). Objectivism focuses on ethics, epistemology, and metaphysics which freedom absolutely depends on.

Atlas Shrugged
http://www.amazon.com/Atlas-Shrugged-Ayn-Rand/dp/0451191145

The Virtue of Selfishness
http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServer?pagename=objectivism_nonfiction_the_virtue_of_selfishness

Capitalism The Unknown Ideal
http://www.amazon.com/Capitalism-Unknown-Ideal-Ayn-Rand/dp/0451147952

Objectivism: The Philosophy of Ayn Rand
http://www.amazon.com/Objectivism-Philosophy-Rand-Library-Volume/dp/0452011019

There is a significant difference between libertarianism and Objectivism, and people need to look hard at both sides and choose.

You should read this: https://www.amazon.ca/Debunking-Utopia-Exposing-Nordic-Socialism/dp/1944229396

The nordics made their money from free markets, their bloated social programs are rapidly eroding the success that those free market policies produced.

Also keep in mind that Norway has a population of 5 million, that's less than Colorado. Of course their government will be more efficient than the behemoth that Bernie wants.

I just got Ron Paul's book "A Foreign Policy of Freedom: Peace, Commerce, and Honest Friendship" in the mail the other day. It's a collection of foreign policy speeches he made in the House over the years with updated commentary. Can't wait to read it.

Side note: You can see the book displayed to the left of RP in the reddit.com Interviews Ron Paul video.

The colonies were not libertarian. Many actions taken against native Americans were anti-libertarian. However, many actions between Native American groups themselves were anti-libertarian.

How far back would you go? Multiple groups will have claims against the same lands? Should the Romans still control Carthage?

Tom Woods has a good response to this exact question following that from. Can't find it right now, but here is a good book if interested https://www.amazon.com/Politically-Incorrect-Guide-American-History/dp/0895260476

I would like to take Peter Schiff's advice in Crash Proof 2.0 and purchase foreign stocks that pay high dividends, as well as getting involved with precious metals.

To start an account with EuroPac though it takes 25K, I've almost saved enough, sooooo cloooooose.

I think the best intro book to Libertarian Economics is still Economics In One Lesson by Henry Hazzlit. Nathaniel Branden told me Ayn Rand wouldn't bother explaining economics to him, but told him to just read this book. It's unfortunate that if we are going to have required reading in public schools, that this book isn't required reading also.

Of course Atlas Shrugged serves as a great intro as well.

> Have you read any Ayn Rand? Yes. If so, what is your opinion of capitalism? That has literally nothing to do with the previous question.

Ayn Rand wrote a book called Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal.

> I also don't believe that laissez-faire capitalism leads to the most happiness for the most people.

Then how can you include "libertarian" in the label that describes your political philosophy when one of the primary tenets of libertarianism is capitalism? Me being a libertarian and you being a "left libertarian," how are our political philosophies even remotely comparable?

> No. Communism is not "total government".

I will concede it's possible that anarcho-communists have changed the meaning of the word; I'm talking the modern understanding of the word. e.g. Soviet Union/North Korean communism. As an example, the word liberal is commonly used to describe a statist/authoritarian position, thus we need "descriptors" to define the previous meaning such as "classical liberal" (libertarian) and "neo-liberal" (neo just means "new").

For convenience, here is the book list from Professor Casey, with links:

The Ethics of Liberty by Murray Rothbard (full text)

The Machinery of Freedom by David Friedman (full text)

Anarchy and the Law by Edward Stringham (full text: http://anarcho-capitalist.org/wp-content/pdfs/Stringham%20(Edward%20P.)%20-%20Anarchy%20and%20the%20Law.pdf)

Radicals for Capitalism by Brian Doherty

Lost in the Cosmos by Walker Percy

The Message in the Bottle by Walker Percy

If you are interested in moral psychology and politics I'd recommend reading The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided By Politics & Religion by Jonathan Haidt.

if you don't have time to read the book, watch his TED talk or listen to the interview he gave on Econ Talk recently.

A great book for a truly in depth description and a far more nuanced one than you get from a short TED talk is Johnathan Haidt’s The Righteous Mind.

The Law - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1936594315/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thmariwi-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1936594315

Economics in one lesson - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0517548232/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thmariwi-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0517548232

That which is seen and is not seen - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1453857508/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thmariwi-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1453857508

Our enemy, the state - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001E28SUM/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thmariwi-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B001E28SUM

How capitalism save america - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1400083311/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thmariwi-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1400083311

New Deal or Raw Deal - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1416592377/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thmariwi-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1416592377

Lessons for the Young Economist - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1933550880/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thmariwi-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1933550880

For a New Liberty - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1610162641/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thmariwi-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1610162641

What Has Government Done to Our Money? - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/146997178X/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thmariwi-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=146997178X

America's Great Depression - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/146793481X/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thmariwi-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=146793481X

Defending the Undefendable - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1933550171/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thmariwi-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1933550171

Metldown - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1596985879/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thmariwi-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1596985879

The Real Lincoln - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0761526463/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thmariwi-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0761526463

The Road to Serfdom - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0226320553/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thmariwi-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0226320553

Capitalism and Freedom - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0226264211/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thmariwi-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0226264211

Radicals for Capitalism - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1586485725/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thmariwi-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1586485725

Production Versus Plunder - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0979987717/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thmariwi-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0979987717

Atlas Shrugged - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0452011876/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thmariwi-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0452011876

The Myth of the Rational Voter - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0691138737/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thmariwi-21&linkCode=as2&camp=1634&creative=19450&creativeASIN=0691138737

Foutainhead - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0452273331/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0452273331&linkCode=as2&tag=thmariwi-20

Anthem - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0452281253/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0452281253&linkCode=as2&tag=thmariwi-20

There are of course more books, but this should last you a few years!

Great list! Let me add some more moderate titles:

17. That which is seen, and that which is not seen - Introduces the "Parable of the broken window" that underpins "Economics in One Lesson"
18. The Road the Serfdom - the case against collectivism, and prescient roadmap for collectivist failure
19. Free to Choose - in Print and Video
20. Capitalism and Freedom - and how they are linked
21. Civil Disobedience - Every other sentence is a poem to human liberty

No the famine was not planned by Mao, but it was a direct result of his regime. You realise there was food available, but people were only able to purchase it through the black market.

Fascism is no better than communism, however I do need to correct you. Nazism revolves around racism. Not all fascism is Nazism, but all Nazism is fascism.

Capitalism is an economic system not a government system. You would have to pair Capitalism against Maxism not Communism. The argument is that Democracy is better than Communism.

Yeah, the US government sucks a lot, but the conditions of US prisons are much better than the conditions of Gulags. Yes, most of the people sent to the Gulags were guilty, but the question is should the law have been in place to begin with? Should someone be thrown in a concentration camp for speaking out against the government. If you think the Gulags were any better than concentration camps You should read the gulag archipelago. It is written by a survivor of the gulags.

This bill board doesn't even argue against marxism in the form of 1st world left wing politics. It is argueing against traditional communism.

What is your opinion on North Korea, which is the only communist regime left?

As for your last point that capitalism kills far more than communism. I think there is a difference between not saving someone and killing them. The Communism death toll is calculated by totalling the number of people that were killed via direct government action. The capitalism one just counts all the deaths. Again, that isn't even the right argument because capitalism is not a form of government, but an economic theory. (Which no nation in the world embrasses to it's full extent. Most economies are somewhere in between marxism and capitalism.) The real argument is Democracy vs Communism, that's what the cold war was about. Democracy works much better than Communism and does not kill anywhere near as many people. The reason people put capitalism up against Communism is because it's much easier to make an argument that way. Even though it's not logically consistent.

Now I know this is heading in the direction of an internet argument where people just say shit and no one really wins. I'll leave a couple book recommendations below, and I would really appreciate it if you left me some book recommendations that you think would help me learn. I believe that we should always be challenging our personal beliefs, and I have an audible credit so I'm more than willing to listen to one of your suggestions. Let's make something positive come out of this. I don't want it to just be a digital shouting match.

Battlefield America

Gulag Archipelago

For a New Liberty

I hope sharing this doesn't piss you off too much. I know political discord can easily make people, myself included, mad. I hope you have a good day, and I'm serious about leaving me some links. I'll check them out. Thanks for your imput and feel free to challenge me back. If my view is right then it should be able to take criticism, right?

>Go read a book


I'll just read For A New Liberty: The Libertarian Manifesto by anarchist Murray Rothbard.

Again, [A Foreign Policy of Freedom] (http://www.amazon.com/Foreign-Policy-Freedom-Commerce-Friendship/dp/0912453001) will go a long way.

EDIT - I understand you to be asking, what ought we do about the current threat of ISIL rampaging through our interests over there. To me it is evident that the US is unable to solve any problems in Iraq, let alone restore and maintain a peaceful, stable government. So any solution must come from the people who live there. How odd...

I hypothesized that many of them are just new to libertarianism. Still, maybe my post will help.

By the way, if anyone is interested in a fairly complete (if somewhat controversial) history of the American libertarian movement, check out Brian Doherty's book Radicals for Capitalism. People have criticized if for having some minor inaccuracies, as is to be expected of a history of people still living, but I think it's a remarkable achievement. My only problem is the title, since I don't like using the word "capitalism".

Defending the Undefendable, by Loyola University New Orleans professor Walter Block. Great intro to libertarian thinking.

You may be interested in this book.

There is a study out there somewhere, I’ll try and find it and link it, which shows the cops are generally reluctant to actually use SWAT against armed or aggressive persons but prefer to wait them out. Rather SWAT is disproportionately used when it is an established fact that the target is likely to offer minimal resistance.

*Edit - I couldn’t find the original source I used in my paper years ago but it is referenced in this book which admittedly isn’t the most balanced source.

Entire books have been written on what fascism is. It's funny that you think a google'd definition in one line sums it up. If you don't think the left has fascists, I suggest reading one of those many books

Radicals for Capitalism. It's a big book, but it reads well and has some salient arguments.

There are entire books about most of these topics. You can also watch/read talks/books from David Friedman, etc for many answers. Don't assume there's no answers for these questions when you simply haven't looked.

https://mises.org/library/market-liberty-1

https://www.amazon.com/New-Liberty-Libertarian-Manifesto/dp/1478280719

Capitalism, the Unknown Ideal

This one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0452011876/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1422375266&sr=8-2&dpPl=1&dpID=512cw5PKi1L&ref=plSrch&pi=AC_SY200_QL40

Meant to out a link.... https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Warrior-Cop-Militarization-Americas/dp/1610394577

IT'S MICRO 101. You wouldn't ask for empirical evidence that gravity exists. Don't be a knob.

Read this: https://www.amazon.com/Principles-Economics-Mankiws/dp/0538453052

https://www.reddit.com/r/Economics/wiki/reading

https://www.amazon.com/Principles-Economics-Mankiws/dp/0538453052

https://www.amazon.com/Modern-Principles-Economics-Tyler-Cowen/dp/1429239972/ref=la_B001IXMRS6_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1502038028&sr=1-5

The Politically Incorrect Guide to US History

33 Questions about American History you're not supposed to ask

Privatization of Roads and Highways If only just for the ability to answer people when they ask about those damn roads.

May I suggest a book about that specific subject?
Debunking Utopia: Exposing the Myth of Nordic Socialism

They're not literally undefendable. It's just an expression that I picked up from the book defending the undefendable.

I find them undefendable on the basis that it is very easy to frame the issue as a bunch of trigger happy, paranoid, Christian right wing extremists, and this leaves me to play Devil's Advocate by proclaiming that said trigger happy, paranoid, Christian right wingers should still be allowed to keep their firearms as stated in the 2nd amendment. It's possible, but it's not easy.

As for myself, I'll probably be arrested for some form of hard drug use.

> "socialist-like features" in economy are often arguably beneficial.

No, they aren't. "I like this" doesn't make something economically beneficial on the whole.

> Think of the common example of the Scandinavian countries.

They have higher wealth as a result of capitalism and freer markets. They didn't become richer as a result of welfare statism. This was written for exactly this kind of bullshit. Socialism didn't make them rich.

Nobody has mentioned The Road to Serfdom [Amazon] by Hayek, probably available in your local library.

(note: this is an argument against a centrally planned economy, which is irrelevant to many forms of market socialism, as CasedOutside has already pointed out)

Read a book on the philosophical foundations of the American left, FFS.

Here’s a good starting point: https://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0767917189

Crash Proof by Peter Schiff. He was (I believe) by far the most vocal and well documented person to predict the crisis.

If you are interested in Lincoln without the propaganda and revisionist, I would suggest you read:

The Real Lincoln by Thomas DiLorenzo

Lincoln Unmasked: What You're Not Supposed to Know About Dishonest Abe by Thomas DiLorenzo

Mr. Lincoln Goes to War by William Marvel - a Lincoln scholar coming clean about Lincoln

"Our Enemy, The State" by Albert Jay Nock

> you don't see anything wrong with a city full of people carrying guns at all times? is this the best way toward safety?

I see nothing wrong with that, at all. Except no one has the right to bring anything onto your private property without your consent. And as far as it being the path way toward lowering crime... the answer is a resounding yes. Or Kleck's book. Or this (pdf), pages through 649-694.

I understand your concern. Believe me, I do. Criminals shouldn't have guns. Violent men and women shouldn't have them. But gun control doesn't prevent them from obtaining them. That's the logical failure of gun control advocates. Gun control doesn't prevent criminals from obtaining firearms, it prevents innocent civilians from defending their loved ones and property. At its core, gun control handicaps in favor of the criminal-minded, against the law-abiding citizen.

1. If Mr. Janitor is employed by Mr. Park, then his salary is the appropriate way to compensate him for any and all services he provides. Mr. Janitor using the government to point a gun at Mr. Park's head to force him to pay more is not appropriate.
   
   
2. Is a good reason to greatly downsize the military. Read Ron Paul's A Foreign Policy of Freedom.
   
   
3. Actually, wealth gap or not, the vast majority of all federal spending is in four areas. The first, the military, I addressed above. The other three are Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. These do not help the wealthy in any way since they don't need them--they can easily pay their own expenses. However, the wealthy are forced, through threat of violence, to pay the expenses of others. That is simple theft and it needs to stop.

Any theories for why this is the case?

I’m thinking it’s that people view us as double-agents looking to water down their beliefs while simultaneously siding with the enemy.

I call it the “Anakin” syndrome. E. G. If you’re not with me then your my enemy.

Because the Sith on both sides seem to only deal in absolutes. IMO It’s due to the climate of extremism and tribalism caused by the two-party system gone rampant.

Like... “How dare you have a moderate view? Can’t you see that [other political party] is Hitler!? They just want to murder puppies!”

Lol. Uh. No. They’re Americans with different moral values that believe the are doing what is right.


I’d like to take a moment to plug Jonathan Haidt’s work on Moral Psychology theory —

https://www.amazon.com/Righteous-Mind-Divided-Politics-Religion/dp/0307455777

More Guns, Less Crime: Understanding Crime and Gun Control Laws

> The Constitution of the United States did say this (sorry OP, but there are more countries than the United States on earth), but doesn't now. That's how amendments and court precedents work under Common Law. We also fought a war (see the first point) to ensure the freedom of those restricted by this edict. The war turned-out to be just, though the suspension of habeus corpus was abominable.

Is this what they taught you in history class in your public school? Embarrassing. The Civil War had little to do with freeing the slaves. If it did, why did the emancipation proclamation only free slaves in the southern rebellious states, and only years into the war? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emancipation_Proclamation

But don't take these things by my word. Tom Woods will explain it for me: http://www.amazon.com/Politically-Incorrect-Guide-American-History/dp/0895260476

>Taxes are necessary to ensure unlimited free-use of certain properties. In a free-market, who paves the roads and who owns them?

There's lots of literature out there in regard to private road systems. Walter Block wrote a whole book about it a few years ago:

http://www.amazon.com/Privatization-Roads-Highways-Walter-Block/dp/193355004X

I always think its funny that, when debating libertarians, the thing people first jump to defend and are most concerned about is road building. I think most libertarians would be perfectly content living in a society in which the government did nothing but build roads.

>A government which charges only as much as it needs to maintain a public structure is preferable to a company who can charge any amount and also randomly change policy, in regards to access.

If a private company charges an unfair price, you can choose a different company. The only recourse we have to a government entity that charges too much is jail.

And you think government entities don't "randomly change policy"?

>The only problem is reality. People are going to do shady things, especially when no one is there to tell them "no".

This is the exact reason why I oppose the state.

My favorite: http://mises.org/daily/1533

and the motherload:

http://www.campaignforliberty.org/node/12362
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You need to read this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Where-Keynes-Went-Wrong-Governments/dp/1604190175/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312910350&sr=8-1

The man's policies have been debunked, repeatedly:

-having a centralized authority controlling interest rates (thanks to the Federal Reserve for creating housing and credit bubbles)

-believing (and I kid you not) that "government spending is akin to savings". (WTF) No, actually, it's akin to debt. Sorry, as demonstrated recently, "stimulus" spending doesn't do anything but create extremely short term artificial boosts (economic sugar highs), but obscenely high debt later; along w/ more taxes and raping of the people via cuts. It's actually worse for an economy in the medium to longer term.

-Broken Window Fallacy - he argues that a shop owner who repairs a smashed window is equivalent to putting as much money into the economy compared to if he were take that money and invest it in expanding his business - and not "sitting on it", contrary to your strawman argument you try to use, suggests. No half decent free marketeer would suggest such a silly notion.

Regardless, in that book Keynes is cited verbatim, and then subsequently destroyed.

I would be able to point to a government report but conveniently the government has chosen not preform the reporting that is required by law on this topic... they have chosen to ignore this reporting for over 20 years now

Really this fact is self evident to anyone that is paying attention to the news. Take a look at the reporting of CopBlock, PhotographyisNotaCrime, Radley Balko (and his books)

Cato has been working to establish a few Databases

But the real problem is

>The United States has no database of police shootings. There is no standardized process by which officers log when they've discharged their weapons and why. There is no central infrastructure for handling that information and making it public. Researchers, confronted with the reality that there are over 17,000 law enforcement agencies in the country, aren't even sure how you'd go about setting one up. No one is keeping track of how many American citizens are shot by their police. This is crazy.

And the police are openly hostile (IMO a form of abuse as well) to anyone attempting to compile this data

> Giving people guns doesn't just make everything better.

I'm sorry, I disagree strongly. Violent crime is nearly non-existent in well-armed societies like Switzerland. The US would be a lot better except the main driver of violence is the drug war.

>but I wish people did more training.

I do too. I'd love it if "big government" had free shooting ranges, gun safety videos for kids in classrooms, maybe even free gun safety and marksmanship classes.

Switzerland does things like this. If we brought our troops home from every overseas deployment, and replaced that $500 billion expenditure with $10 billion a year for gun ranges, marksmanship training, and ammo to practice, I think we'd have a much better society.

>Intruders should be punished, but when a gun is involved someone tends to end up dead.

If only more intruders could get shot, they would stop their practices altogether. There are studies indicating strong correlations between the level of gun ownership and whether home invasions are commonly attempted.

>Regardless of being a criminal at that moment, it's stuff worth a life?

That's not the issue. The issue is that many times you don't know if a criminal is armed. That's why castle doctrine exists: if someone is in your house illegally and you genuinely fear they are a threat to kill you, you have the right to shoot first and ask questions later. They initiated the dangerous situation, they bear the risk.

>We do need to figure out how to reduce crime,

End drug prohibition. 50% of violent crime ends tomorrow.

>but giving people guns doesn't make crime stop.

https://www.amazon.com/More-Guns-Less-Crime-Understanding/dp/0226493636