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None really. The AMA one was interesting but your conglomeration of mainstream established conspiracy theory personalities and figures left out the more interesting and more credible whistle blowers and researchers in my opinion. How about an AMA with Senator Mark Dayton who resigned under shady circumstances after criticizing the 9/11 Commission report. Or Max Cleland who actually resigned from the commission. Or Kevin Ryan who blew the whistle and wrote a new book detailed exactly who had the motive and could have pulled off the intricate crimes of 9/11, and he is doing publicity. Cynthia McKinney served in the House and questioned Rumsfeld and Myers directly. Richard Gage founded and leads an organization of soon to be over 2,000 whistle blowing architects and engineers. etc.

This group reads like a who's who of Alex Jones guest list: Alex Jones
David Icke
Mark Dice
G. Edward Griffn
Syrian Girl(Youtube)
Charlie Veitch
Gerald Celente
Max Keiser
Ben Swann

They are all media personalities, not an actual list of credible elected officials, whistle blowers, or great researchers. Bill Still would make a good AMA as well, and has a new movie out. Ellen Brown as well is known to do interviews and publicity. Luke Rudkowski would be interesting for people who enjoy his story of being an upstart independent journalist. Lawrence Wilkerson served at the highest levels of gov't and said he'd testify that the whole Bush Admin knew and knows that the people being force fed in Gitmo are innocent. You list is scant at best and the other questions are banal drivel in my opinion, and I don't see how the collection of that information is beneficial to the subreddit, but would be interested in how you think you can use this information to benefit the subreddit.

There's a really good weekly show called The HighWire with Del Bigtree that is presented by one of the producers of Vaxxed. It is quite well produced and I can't think of a better way to get familiarized with the anti-vaccination side than to watch some of the shows.

For example:

Del Bigtree interview with Al Jazeera

interview with Andy Wakefield


It's also important to realize that the reason so many people - especially parents - have come to question the safety of vaccines is because they have seen first hand one of their children get injured after receiving a vaccine. Most of them will freely admit that until that point, they had no reason to question things and were quite happily following the CDC vaccine schedule. So to understand why this is such a large movement, it's really useful to read or watch some of the testimonials of these parents.

written parent's testimonials

video interviews

2 particularly heart wrenching interviews:

The McDowell triplets in Michigan

Gardasil (HPV vaccine) injury


If you want a couple of book recommendations:

How to End the Autism Epidemic by J.B. Handley

Unvaccinated: Why growing numbers of parents are choosing natural immunity for their children by Forrest Maready

Vaccine Epidemic


Some articles:

No, the Safety of the CDC’s Routine Childhood Vaccine Schedule Has NOT Been Scientifically Demonstrated

RFK, Jr article

Confessions of the Vaccine-Educated

Let's take the collaboration with Hitler and Franco during the lead up to WWII as an example. There were sympathizers with Hitlers cause, and there were collaborators. There were people who knew what Hitler was about, but there were also people who actively participated.

In regards to those who installed explosives in WTC 1, 2, and 7, they may not have known about the plans to invade Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc.

The 19 hijackers did not fly the aircraft that hit WTC 1, 2, and the Pentagon or the plane that went down in Shanksville. Not a single one of those planes activated the hijacking code.

What to speak of what was really going on with Norad on that day, totally unbelievable!

Yes, we already knew about the Saudi sympathies for the 19 hijackers in the LA area and especially in the SW Florida area. That's been documented for years. Or that the Bin Laden family was flown out during the no fly period. Damn it man, there is nothing new in the 28 pages and there is a lot, LOT more we know about the Saudis than that BS.

As far as Bin Laden in Afghanistan, the US virtually protected him. That was a big diversion.

The management of patsies is a billion dollar industry. Have you heard of Gladio? Have you read JFK the unspeakable? https://www.amazon.com/JFK-Unspeakable-Why-Died-Matters/dp/1439193886

Eventually you realize that J Edgar Hoover's FBI, the Gestapo, the Stazi, the Mossad, the KGB, British MI5, etc. etc. on and on are models/case studies for the operation of modern nation states intelligence services. That even corporate security people honor and respect these types as their mentors. Its a damn profession, a damn career choice. The mythology of patriotism goes hand in hand, like a damn religion. The world is crawling with these people. Its a phase of human history. We are in the middle of it.

And lets be realistic. Would you rather have lived in East Germany or in West Germany, the US version of imperialism or the Soviet version? Was Japan better off being occupied by Truman or would it have been better off occupied by Stalin?

Would you rather the world be dominated by Beijing, or by Washington? Do you think there would be a vacuum? If the US was not dominating the world oil trade in dollars, who the fuck do you think would be dominating it? Would they be nice guys?

Its just the mafia on a bigger scale, and sometimes they pull it off pretty well, as in a lot went right for them on 9/11 (but not all!) but a shit load goes wrong for them just as often, with botched operations.

Look at Bush Jr's face in the Sarasota elementary classroom that morning with his goat book. He knew this was going to be one of the most important and stressful days of his life, that his role was being managed. He was not in charge. There was no one in Saudi Arabia who was in charge either. That's like saying who was in charge of the BP oil fiasco in the Gulf. Corporate structures distribute responsibility. The strategy for 9/11 and invading Iraq was laid out at the time of PNAC. It was implemented during Clintons terms. And its execution was already on track by the time Bush Jr. came to office.

I'm so glad you are enjoying it. Enjoying is the wrong word of course, but you know what I mean. The first time I saw it, the police station part with Oswald realizing he was just a patsy was pretty heart wrenching. It's tough to believe they allowed that kind of insanity at a police station, people just milling around, but it was useful.

The individual who came up with all this footage is an interesting person. There is a story about them on the internet, but what I recall is they spent their whole life gathering this evidence, and all of these various clips, even at swap meets, etc.

Part II is about MK Ultra, and I still haven't brought myself to watch it. Thank you for your story about Dealy Plaza. I've often imagined myself there. Been at DFW about a hundred times, but never explored Texas myself.

A great book on this matter is called JFK & the Unspeakable by James Douglass. You might want to read it if you are interested. https://www.amazon.com/JFK-Unspeakable-Why-Died-Matters/dp/1439193886

https://www.amazon.com/Devils-Chessboard-Dulles-Americas-Government/dp/0062276174

https://www.amazon.com/JFK-Unspeakable-Why-Died-Matters/dp/1439193886/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8

https://www.amazon.com/Family-Secrets-Americas-Invisible-Government/dp/1608190064

https://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Economic-Hit-John-Perkins/dp/0452287081

https://www.amazon.com/National-Security-Government-Michael-Glennon/dp/0190206446


Those are the books that you should read.

Here are also some good resources:

Paul Craig Roberts worked in the Reagan administration: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/

This is a good multi-part article excerpted from one of the books above: http://whowhatwhy.org/2013/09/16/part-1-mr-george-bush-of-the-central-intelligence-agency/

Michael Glennon’s abstract about his book: http://harvardnsj.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Glennon-Final.pdf

A PDF of the “Confessions of an Economic Hitman” book if you don’t want to buy it: http://resistir.info/livros/john_perkins_confessions_of_an_economic_hit_man.pdf

This is when the reporter asked Bill Clinton about Mena: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDMktUYvC7k

Article on the coup attempt in France: http://whowhatwhy.org/2015/10/20/jfk-assassination-plot-mirrored-in-1961-france-part-1/

All of whowhatwhy.org is very good. There is probably a lot of good information there most haven’t heard of. The main guy, Russ Baker, is a Pulitzer prize winning journalist.

Bet you didn’t know that Bob Woodward was a state intelligence asset/disinformationist? https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/710466456941686784

All part of the record…. Enjoy.

These aren't mainstream corporate media sources, of course, but if you are interested here's some stuff...

This is a pretty good, but long, article on one ring (which drew a protest of 300,000 people in a city of a million or so - called the White March - because it was clearly being protected by the establishment):

https://isgp-studies.com/belgian-x-dossiers-of-the-dutroux-affair

Here's an article talking about a number of these rings around the world:

http://whale.to/b/pedophocracy.html

It's a way to control people. You make participation the price of getting ahead and you videotape the participation so you own the participant and they will pretty much do anything to avoid being exposed.

William Colby, former CIA director, wrote a forward for a book by John Decamp, a Nebraska state senator, about one ring in Nebraska which involved prominent Republicans.

Where I live there was a serial killer who ended up taking the fall for a likely ring as well. He and his brother ran a pig farm (pigs for body disposal) where police, politicians, and bikers (who predominantly ran the local drug and prostitution trade) alike would party. Women continually went missing and it was an open secret who was doing it. With these kinds of rings police keep investigations from going anywhere and politicians deal with potential public scrutiny. One of the mayors around that time literally got caught in a van with a prostitute who was smoking crack. I think he said that she was struggling with addiction and he was trying to help her or something. ;)

I am not against vaccines, no, but there should plenty more research done on their safety. Even the well-known memed saying "autism is caused by vaccines" is starting to seem more and more real every day.

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>In early December 2017, Dr. Chris Exley of Keele University in England and his colleagues published a paper that for the first time looked at the brain tissue of subjects with autism to determine the level of aluminum (note: they spell “aluminum” as “aluminium” in the United Kingdom) found within their brain tissue. For anyone trying to convince the world that “the science is settled and vaccines don’t cause autism,” the study’s findings are deeply contradictory to that statement. In a blog post written by Professor Exley on the day his study was published, he explained the groundbreaking results:

> “…while the aluminium content of each of the 5 brains [of people with autism] was shockingly high it was the location of the aluminium in the brain tissue which served as the standout observation…The new evidence strongly suggests that aluminium is entering the brain in ASD [autism spectrum disorders] via pro-inflammatory cells which have become loaded up with aluminium in the blood and/or lymph, much as has been demonstrated for monocytes at injection sites for vaccines including aluminium adjuvants.”


I strongly suggest anyone genuinely interested to read the following page, if you wish to see a very different view (filled with research of course) on the vaccine/aluminium link and its possible relation to autism:

-Aluminum in vaccines and the autism epidemic

The man behind this research is J.B.Handley. He has a child with autism and has dedicated his life to solving and researching the issue - and preventing the modern autism epidemic.

He even has a book on this issue, available here:

https://www.amazon.com/How-Autism-Epidemic-J-B-Handley/dp/1603588248/
https://jbhandleyblog.com/home/2018/4/1/international2018

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Here is another link to a research paper connecting the usage of aluminium adjuvants to the rise of autism:

Do aluminum vaccine adjuvants contribute to the rising prevalence of autism?

This research is sadly not freely available, but if you wish to read it anyway, you can get around that with a page like www.sci-hub.tw

In which case it becomes more readily available:

https://sci-hub.tw/https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0162013411002212


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Recently, even a respected (now smeared and his reputation destroyed of course) vaccine medical expert, employed and tasked to destroy the autism-vaccine connection has come out with info that the link undoubtedly exists. There is an interview with him on Shirley Attkinsson that can be found on YouTube.

Full Measure with Sharyl Attkisson: January 6, 2019 - The Vaccination Debate

James Corbett: Vaxx Propaganda in Overdrive as Vaccine/Autism Link Confirmed

1. Fair, the skull fragment they found and kept was found to be that of a female. There was an analysis done on tooth fragments though that were conclusive.
   
   
2. I recall seeing a photo of what was supposed to be the remains of his body after being taken outside of the bunker and burned by the Russians. It could have been anyone though.
   
   
3. I mean, yes there was. That's literally what the Führerbunker was for. It's a place you go when the shit is hitting the fan, and the shit was most certainly hitting the fan. There was no escape, Berlin was falling.
   
   
4. He refused to escape or flee the country. Everything he did in his life (politically at least) was for Germany and the German people. He always said and stayed true to it that he would never leave Germany in the face of defeat and he would die with it.
   
   
5. It wasn't just losing a war, for him it was losing Germany. The whole point of everything he did for Germany was to raise it back to greatness after the disgrace that it was left with after WWI. And he did. He raised Germany out of the greatest depression in its history and make it a world super power to the point where they almost took over Europe. It wasn't just a war that he lost, he lost Germany and in his eyes he led the thing he loved the most to destruction. Not only destruction, but destruction at the hands of Bolshevism and the jews. He lost everything.
   
   That being said! I love the idea of a bold escape to Argentina with a handful of people (and Blondi!) to live out the rest of his life there. There's an excellent book on the subject, Grey Wolf, that makes a very compelling case. There just isn't any real evidence one way or another.

http://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Economic-Hit-John-Perkins/dp/0452287081/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1426248828&sr=8-1&keywords=economic+hitman

>Perkins writes that his economic projections cooked the books Enron-style to convince foreign governments to accept billions of dollars of loans from the World Bank and other institutions to build dams, airports, electric grids, and other infrastructure he knew they couldn't afford. The loans were given on condition that construction and engineering contracts went to U.S. companies. Often, the money would simply be transferred from one bank account in Washington, D.C., to another one in New York or San Francisco. The deals were smoothed over with bribes for foreign officials, but it was the taxpayers in the foreign countries who had to pay back the loans. When their governments couldn't do so, as was often the case, the U.S. or its henchmen at the World Bank or International Monetary Fund would step in and essentially place the country in trusteeship, dictating everything from its spending budget to security agreements and even its United Nations votes. It was, Perkins writes, a clever way for the U.S. to expand its "empire" at the expense of Third World citizens.

I guess this is just a coincidence though.

Thank you, spread the info far and wide.

I've seen Jan's stuff (gnostic media). I'm a fan. It's good work. I generally agree with most of his assertions except that T. McKenna was an agent. If he was, then his role was benign and simply to corral triphead and psychonauts into one forum.

A lot of his cia-psychedelic movement is elaborated in David McGowan's book "Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon: Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops & the Dark Heart of the Hippie Dream". It's an interesting read.

Dave McGowan's amazing "Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon: Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops & the Dark Heart of the Hippie Dream"

http://www.amazon.com/Weird-Scenes-Inside-Canyon-Laurel/dp/1909394122

It's both eye-opening and highly entertaining. Dark, but funny. Both well-researched and convincing in its analysis. The guy is a genius.

Couple different reasons:

1. The "Elites" have been writing down their plans for a New World Order since HG Welles coined the term back in the day. His book with the same name explains how the Elites will evolve and then keep the beta human monkeys as their pets: http://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Wells_New_World_Order-5.pdf
   In the 60s, Carroll Quigley wrote the plan down again in his book Tragedy and Hope More recently, Obama string pullers like Zbignew Brezenski have written down the plan for the NWO in books like the Technotronic Era
   
   
2. Hundreds of elites repeat it over and over in their speeches: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVYBDIkgxKo . Gary Hart is especially egregious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTOCRa9lTZc
   
   
3. There have been hundreds upon hundreds of whistleblowers throughout the years that have come forward. Listen to the story of Aaron Russo. Listen to Naval Intelligence whistleblower Bill Cooper in 1991. Listen to Darrell Hamomoto (trained through the Rockefeller Foundation).
   
   
4. Look at Wikileaks. Hillary Clinton said outright to Wall St insiders that she wants "Hemispheric Government and trade". That's the definition and fear of the NWO (one world global elitist government).
   
   
5. Look at the TPP. 100% undeniable proof that Obama wanted to consolidate Mexico, America, and Canada into a single "Trans Atlantic Union". Look at the European Union. It's all about the consolidation of power. If you think about the NWO simply as the consolidation of power into globalist government hands, then what Julian Assange says in this interview makes the NWO perfectly clear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6qlc3lStM4

Yes, Chomsky offers some great insights that amaze one. In our routine lives we never stop to think of things from different perspectives to really figure things out.

That quote came out of his book "The Common Good" but my favorite is his text "Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media".

source https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/094500110X/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=094500110X&linkCode=as2&tag=humarefre-20&linkId=VK7GP2KQIKF6OK6U

Bank of International Settlements

Their stated purpose is to “promote the cooperation of central banks and to provide additional facilities for international financial operations.”

and is owned by

Federal Reserve, Bank of England, Bank of Italy, Bank of Canada, Swiss National Bank, Nederlandsche Bank, Bundesbank and Bank of France.

BIS holds at least 10% of monetary reserves for at least 80 of the world’s central banks, the IMF and other multilateral institutions.

BIS serves as financial agent for international agreements, collects information on the global economy and serves as lender of last resort to prevent global financial collapse (GEE WHERE HAVE WE SEEN THIS DONE BEFORE??!!!)

BIS promotes an agenda of monopoly capitalist fascism. It gave a bridge loan to Hungary in the 1990’s to ensure privatization of that country’s economy, for example.

I'll let you gather more information from there if you are asking questions in good faith (as opposed to just being a troll). This is plenty of information to start you down the rabbit hole.

Good work.

If there is anyone out there who has already done their fair share of research, i cannot recommend this book enough: Crossing the Rubicon. It's intense, and you're a better man than i am if you can take it all in on the first read, but it is without a doubt a must-read if you really want to understand this thing properly.

There is stuff in there that needs to be read by a lot of people, as it seems to me like people who think they have this whole thing figured out really haven't put the time in, especially the "it was the Israelis" crowd. This is a proper investigation: there is very little conjecture in the book, and everything is sourced.

>Completely agree, especially about anti-Semitic red herrings.

It's pretty effective because there's a number of different claims that get conflated, sometimes on purpose and sometimes out of ignorance. Some of these claims are:

1. Jews are overrepresented in high positions in finance, government, and media.
   
2. Powerful Jews use their connections with other Jews to expand their power relative to the rest of the populace.
   
3. (All) Jews are involved in a conspiracy to gain power at the expense of the rest of the populace.
   
   (1) is pretty much true by any given metric, but doesn't necessarily mean much. (2) is arguably true as well, but not really surprising per se. Any community of people tends to work with others in their community for mutual benefit. Jews are likely more prone to this by the simple fact that they share a history of oppression from the larger societies they've lived in. Cooperation wasn't a luxury; it was necessary for survival.
   
   (3) is the problem because arguments for (1) and (2) are often misconstrued as (3). Many people actually do seem to argue for (3) or a slightly less strong form of the position, either out of ignorance, but there's also documented cases of people pretending to hold this position specifically to discredit (1) and (2).
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   Check out The Creature of Jekyll Island for a different take on the history of the Federal Reserve, or James Corbett's documentary Century of Enslavement.

I agree, that it sounds more like covet, but the word covert makes much more sense in the context of the rest of this speech.

> It requires a change in outlook, a change in tactics, a change in missions--by the government, by the people, by every businessman or labor leader, and by every newspaper. For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

Like the speech "The President and the Press", Executive Order 11110 is usually distorted and important information is missing. Add to this the fact, that one member of the Warren Commission was John J. McCloy, who had also served as the head of the world bank and you get the impression that powerful bankers were the masterminds behind JFK's assassination. Jim Marrs and his prominent book Crossfire is partly to blame. Jim Marrs's interpretation of Executive Order 11110 has been picked up by many other conspiracy researchers and documentaries like Zeitgeist.

Here are two sources which expose the mythical nature of his interpretation. Both sources cannot be qualified as banker-friendly. G. Edward Griffin wrote the classic The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve. He wrote about this misinterpretation here - THE JFK MYTH
Was he assassinated because he opposed the Fed?

Michael Collins Piper wrote an article called Hard Facts Refute
`JFK Greenback' Myth for American Free Press.

What gives the dynamic a particular look is the large population of Evangelical Christians. Now what you have to understand, is while the professed rates of religiosity are extremely high, the general population simply does not know anything about the Bible, or Judaism nor Islam. This goes for the evangelical crowd as well. There are a set of cliches that they all know, you know, 'Jesus saves," type of knowledge. So you end up with stuff like you see in this very thread, with 'we have a Judeo-Christian' background level of rhetoric.

The fact is that people just don't know anything about Judaism or Christianity.

On top of this you had a conscious Zionist political project, to make sure that culturally pro-Israel views dominate the news, academy and churches.

There are two academics who wrote a paper that eventually became a book concerning the influence of the Israel lobby. The book is a must read, but you should give the shorter paper a try for sure.

THE
ISRAEL
LOBBY
AND
U.S.
FOREIGN
POLICY

http://mearsheimer.uchicago.edu/pdfs/A0040.pdf

The book:

https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Lobby-U-S-Foreign-Policy/dp/0374531501

Pew study on religious knowledge.

http://www.pewforum.org/2010/09/28/u-s-religious-knowledge-survey/

Here's a book David Seaman wrote in 2008... Chapter 2 "Rules of Effective Publicity Whoring" is probably relevant. That's not a joke, it's literally the title of the second chapter in his book. Here's another excerpt:
>My technique works for any hot news item. If the media is talking about it, you can learn how to become part of the discussion. Getting publicity boils down to just a set of skills and nothing more. Attracting media coverage becomes easy, even routine, with practice.

You can find that inside the free preview on amazon.

>My child is much safer with vaccines mate, rather trust decades of scientific research than minutes of facebook research.



Well that's just not true at all.


>Seriously scary stuff. When further research is not encouraged in a certain area, then it's clear you are treading in dangerous waters.
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>I do think these debates are important, especially nowadays when people are crucified simply for bringing up the issue of possibly improving vaccines and not simply trusting corporations blindly.
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> As I usually say, vaccines do not need to be abolished, they can and should be improved. The issue is not as black and white as people portray it.
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>The amount of research that has sprung up connecting the usage of heavy metals as vaccine adjuvants to neurological problems, as well as autism is considerable, yet is rarely discussed.
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>>In early December 2017, Dr. Chris Exley of Keele University in England and his colleagues published a paper that for the first time looked at the brain tissue of subjects with autism to determine the level of aluminum (note: they spell “aluminum” as “aluminium” in the United Kingdom) found within their brain tissue. For anyone trying to convince the world that “the science is settled and vaccines don’t cause autism,” the study’s findings are deeply contradictory to that statement. In a blog post written by Professor Exley on the day his study was published, he explained the groundbreaking results:
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>> “…while the aluminium content of each of the 5 brains [of people with autism] was shockingly high it was the location of the aluminium in the brain tissue which served as the standout observation…The new evidence strongly suggests that aluminium is entering the brain in ASD [autism spectrum disorders] via pro-inflammatory cells which have become loaded up with aluminium in the blood and/or lymph, much as has been demonstrated for monocytes at injection sites for vaccines including aluminium adjuvants.”
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>I strongly suggest anyone genuinely interested to read the following page, if you wish to see a very different view (filled with research of course) on the vaccine/aluminium link and its possible relation to autism:
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>-Aluminum in vaccines and the autism epidemic
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>The man behind this research is J.B.Handley. He has a child with autism and has dedicated his life to solving and researching the issue - and preventing the modern autism epidemic.
>
>He even has a book on this issue, available here:
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>https://www.amazon.com/How-Autism-Epidemic-J-B-Handley/dp/1603588248/
>https://jbhandleyblog.com/home/2018/4/1/international2018
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> Here is another link to a research paper (by Tomljenovic, Exley not involved here as far as I know) connecting the usage of aluminium adjuvants to the rise of autism:
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>Do aluminum vaccine adjuvants contribute to the rising prevalence of autism?
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>This research is sadly not freely available, but if you wish to read it anyway, you can get around that with a page like www.sci-hub.tw
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>In which case it becomes more readily available:
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>https://sci-hub.tw/https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0162013411002212
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>Recently, even a respected (now smeared and his reputation destroyed of course) vaccine medical expert, employed and tasked to destroy the autism-vaccine connection has come out with info that the link undoubtedly exists. There is an interview with him on Shirley Attkinsson that can be found on YouTube.
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>Full Measure with Sharyl Attkisson: January 6, 2019 - The Vaccination Debate
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>James Corbett: Vaxx Propaganda in Overdrive as Vaccine/Autism Link Confirmed
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>For an absurdly high amount of research papers, check out this comment here.
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Holy cow - you weren't kidding about it being a thousand bucks. I haven't seen that book or pdf anywhere else, but an excellent examination of the case by John DeCamp (the children's lawyer) called "The Franklin Cover-Up" is on amazon for a very reasonable price.

I highly recommend it, although it is extremely disturbing and sometimes graphic about the crimes committed.

G. Edward Griffin, the author of "The Creature from Jekyl Island"
lecturing on "The Quigley formula". A must see.

My favorite quote from Quigley (supposedly one of Bill Clinton's mentors);

"The chief problem of American political life for a long time has been how to make the two Congressional parties more national and international. The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can “throw the rascals out” at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy … [E]ither party in office becomes in time corrupt, tired, unenterprising, and vigorless. Then it should be possible to replace it, every four years if necessary, by the other party, which will be none of those things but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same basic policies." - from "Tragedy and Hope"

Ishmael (and the rest of the series) by Daniel Quinn opened my eyes in my senior year of high school.

It's about a Gorilla, who has lived beside man for a number of decades and teaches a pupil through stories and analogies about how we are already at the cusp of civilization collapse. It's about a lot more than just that, namely the relationship of humans, animals, the planet, and how humans have a unique, egotistical view of themselves where we deemed ourselves rulers of the planet.

Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins is an eye opener as well.

Other great reads:

Magicians of the Gods by Graham Hancock.

Necronomicon

UFO's by Leslie Keen

Siddhartha - Herman Hesse

I also really enjoyed the Myst series by Rand & Robin Miller (the books the game is based on). It's about worlds within worlds and an ancient race of authors creating worlds through magical ink and books (sci-fi/fantasy).

The creature from Jekyll Island

Just finished this. Also would recommend John Perkins, Confessions of an Economic Hit man if you want something easier to read. Not sure if he is telling the truth about his life but its an easy way to get into the paradigm to understand more complex books.

Also the documentary Money Masters by Bill Still.

This is the book:

http://www.amazon.com/JFK-Unspeakable-Why-Died-Matters/dp/1439193886/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1453045853&sr=1-1&keywords=jfk+and+the+unspeakable

It's a long read but it's the definitive book on the coup. I'd love to know what you think if you read it.

SS: The late, great author of Crossing the Rubicon talks about limits to growth forces on current human civilisation era.

Do yourself a favor and buy [this book.] (https://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499). This is the basics kids, they are far more sophisticated, OP just posted a recent example.

https://www.amazon.com/Dirty-Little-Secrets-Buzz-Attention/dp/1402213379/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1488034199&sr=1-2&refinements=p_27%3ADavid+Seaman


Pretty confident a large portion of the posts about him on here are just him

Be very very careful going against Jewish interests. This is one of the most censored topics.

Stuff like Culture of Critique. Already taken down by Amazon. It had amazing reviews, and averaged around 4.5-5.0

https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2019/03/12/amazon-bans-culture-of-critique-and-separation-and-its-discontents/

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/182136.The_Culture_of_Critique

"MIND BLOWN.
This should be required reading in school.
Exposes a fundamental issue in our society that most are completely unaware of.
Book is well referenced, and have fact checked many of the claims myself, which i've proven to be true."

Stuff by Ron Unz.
http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/

The book the Holocaust Industry
https://www.amazon.com/Holocaust-Industry-Reflections-Exploitation-Suffering/dp/1781685614/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=holocaust+industry+finkelstein
The book the Israel Lobby, written by two Harvard professors
https://www.amazon.com/Israel-Lobby-U-S-Foreign-Policy/dp/0374531501/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=the+israel+lobby

Nobel laureate Solzhenitsyn wrote a book about Jews in Russia, 100 Years Together, that few dare publish.

Roosh V, as a proponent of mens rights, questioned Jews and feminism, and promptly had books deplatformed from Amazon. He was banned from the UK. Books along the lines of Bang, Bang Ukraine, etc.

Check lectures by Michael E Jones. A Catholic that calls out "Jewish influence."
https://youtu.be/uYOcyDRcG1E

Check videos of Alex Jones talking about "globalists", which some say is a codeword for Jews.

If you really want to combat censorship try to find videos that Youtube is about to take down. People keep trying to get the truth out and censors keep taking it down. Look at videos listing 109 countries Jews were kicked out of, as an example.
https://youtu.be/6roAvG02gms

Try to guess the religion of the people usually taking these things down, and not giving people the chance to defend the truth of their work or statements.
https://www.adl.org/blog/pick-up-artist-roosh-v-moves-from-misogyny-to-anti-semitism

Remember, feminism is a Jewish movement:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Feminists_by_religion
...there's much more to say, if the censors don't get you first!

Oh god, he still has believers?

At least this time the account is really gone. He had a habit of deleting his accounts for attention before later restoring them in the hope he'd get more Patreon subscribers. He even deleted his own YouTube videos on Feb 26th last year so this is a nice anniversary.

He's a shill for himself.

http://gawker.com/270281/how-to-be-a-publicity-whore-author-underqualified

https://jezebel.com/270369/self-promotion-guru-david-seaman-totally-got-our-memo-shat-all-over-it

https://www.amazon.com/Dirty-Little-Secrets-Buzz-Attention/dp/1402213379

The 1960's "counter-culture" music scene was rife with military brats, you should check out some of Dave McGowan's work on the subject. Intelligence has been recruiting people for roles in popular culture for a long time.

I say it on a regular basis: Alicia Owen did nothing wrong.

If you haven’t read it, the attorney who handled this case wrote a great book that outlines all the facts: https://www.amazon.com/Franklin-Cover-up-Satanism-Murder-Nebraska/dp/0963215809/ref=nodl_

>AIPAC doesnt spend that much money compared to other lobby groups

They are one of the most powerful lobbying groups in this country and by FAR the most powerful with regards to foreign policy.

Read this book.

A little about the author:

"John J. Mearsheimer is the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor of Political Science at the University of Chicago, where he has taught since 1982. He graduated from West Point in 1970 and then served five years as an officer in the U.S. Air Force. He then started graduate school in political science at Cornell University in 1975. He received his Ph.D. in 1980. He spent the 1979-1980 academic year as a research fellow at the Brookings Institution, and was a post-doctoral fellow at Harvard University's Center for International Affairs from 1980 to 1982. During the 1998-1999 academic year, he was the Whitney H. Shepardson Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York."

He's a brilliant writer and this book in particular lays a very solid groundwork for understanding just how much Israel has us on puppet strings. Oman may been an actual anti-semite, but the points she's making are not anti-semitic.

Funny you say that, because he wasn't pushing people to buy actual, physical gold (which would have been smart), he wanted them to invest in gold through a company called Gold Money. So, digital gold, I guess. He was an affiliate and got paid for referrals, just one of his little get rich schemes. He did bring help give a voice for and raise awareness for Pizzagate, so he hasn't been completely useless, but he is a self promoter who wrote a book back in 2008 detailing exactly how he's been operating since.

Edit: Here it in his own words here.

http://www.amazon.com/Behold-Horse-Milton-William-Cooper/dp/0929385225
I love this book for its use of real government documents. Long, but totally worth the read.

> Popular Mechanics already debunked every single thing that there was to be debunked

The Popular Mechanics article and book has itself been completely debunked 6 years ago. You're a little behind the times.

Debunking 9/11 Debunking: An Answer to Popular Mechanics and Other Defenders of the Official Conspiracy Theory.

https://www.amazon.com/How-Autism-Epidemic-J-B-Handley/dp/1603588248/

the book is already out of stock.

Get your copy if you want to help getting the truth out.

Is there a clear link between vaccines and autism?

Yes.

https://jbhandleyblog.com/home/2018/4/1/international2018

https://www.amazon.com/How-Autism-Epidemic-J-B-Handley/dp/1603588248

Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time by Carroll Quigley a must read for any one looking out for truth.

Here is the full pdf of this book at Carroll Quigley's website.

There are these things called books. I'm sure the nice librarian can explain to you how they work.

Grey Wolf was a great read on the subject.

For greater detail, check out Noam Chomsky's "Manufacturing Consent"

Summary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTBWfkE7BXU

Full Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHa6NflkW3Y

Book:

https://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499

> If someone went to the trouble of putting together a youtube video outlining the evidence in favor of the official story, it would be ten times as long and 100-times better sourced.

No, you would actually find anomaly after anomaly that go against the official story. Youtube videos are not the main source of information, they are just summaries to use as launching points. Just as mainstream news is not, and should not be, a main source. To really research something, to build a base of unbiased facts, and to actually learn things, you must go through the act of "discovery", personally subjecting yourself to all evidence available and forming your own opinions.

As more detailed starting points than simple "Youtube videos", I recommend:

• The History Commons 9/11 Timeline
  
  
• Crossing the Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil
  
  
• Archive.org's 9/11 archive of live TV from the day

Going on a road trip soon, many thanks. And to think I was ready to drop some cash on the $4,789 audio cd.

...but people have been "getting paid to do it" for like 40 years.

I'm old enough to remember Bill Cooper coming to my town, shilling his doctored Zapruder film on the local news to sell tickets to his high school auditorium show, and warming up the audience for the release of his upcoming book six months later.

I'm not even claiming that Cooper's BAPH didn't have amazing insight and prescience... but when you treat these guys like gods, you're only going to be disappointed when you find out that They're Only In It For The Money.

That goes doubly for all the Q-tard paytriots working the grift as we speak.

Tragedy and Hope by Carroll Quigley. Synopsis/analysis by Jay Dyer of Jay's Analysis. Unfortunately only half of each of eight lectures available for free, but interesting all the same.

Amazon link to book purchase

PDF available on web

ok so you either know nothing about this subject or you are working it. if it is the former and you actually have the stomach to face the truth try reading this: [Debunking 9/11 Debunking: An Answer to Popular Mechanics and Other Defenders of the Official Conspiracy Theory] (http://www.amazon.com/Debunking-11-Mechanics-Defenders-Conspiracy/dp/156656686X)

The book is "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" by John Perkins.

It's a very good book.

And relevant to the post yesterday about Obama's work in the 1980s for Business International Corporation as the consulting BIC did (at least officially) may be somewhat similar to the consulting Perkins did.

You cant but help to love Bill Cooper.... and how he destroyed Star Trek for me...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GChemEEDRNM&index=1&list=PL5llvwa-5byTu0wrp9AU_SuC6hK4yKr66

If you read the reviews on his book on amazon, people are woke

https://www.amazon.com/Behold-Horse-Milton-William-Cooper/dp/0929385225/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1522958362&sr=8-2&keywords=behold+a+pale+horse

I don't think information should ever be lost, even if people disagree with that information. Copying/pasting the parent comment just for information sake.




>Seriously scary stuff. When further research is not encouraged in a certain area, then it's clear you are treading in dangerous waters.
>
>I do think these debates are important, especially nowadays when people are crucified simply for bringing up the issue of possibly improving vaccines and not simply trusting corporations blindly.
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>As I usually say, vaccines do not need to be abolished, they can and should be improved. The issue is not as black and white as people portray it.
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>The amount of research that has sprung up connecting the usage of heavy metals as vaccine adjuvants to neurological problems, as well as autism is considerable, yet is rarely discussed.
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>In early December 2017, Dr. Chris Exley of Keele University in England and his colleagues published a paper that for the first time looked at the brain tissue of subjects with autism to determine the level of aluminum (note: they spell “aluminum” as “aluminium” in the United Kingdom) found within their brain tissue. For anyone trying to convince the world that “the science is settled and vaccines don’t cause autism,” the study’s findings are deeply contradictory to that statement. In a blog post written by Professor Exley on the day his study was published, he explained the groundbreaking results:
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>“…while the aluminium content of each of the 5 brains [of people with autism] was shockingly high it was the location of the aluminium in the brain tissue which served as the standout observation…The new evidence strongly suggests that aluminium is entering the brain in ASD [autism spectrum disorders] via pro-inflammatory cells which have become loaded up with aluminium in the blood and/or lymph, much as has been demonstrated for monocytes at injection sites for vaccines including aluminium adjuvants.”
>
>I strongly suggest anyone genuinely interested to read the following page, if you wish to see a very different view (filled with research of course) on the vaccine/aluminium link and its possible relation to autism:
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>-Aluminum in vaccines and the autism epidemic
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>The man behind this research is J.B.Handley. He has a child with autism and has dedicated his life to solving and researching the issue - and preventing the modern autism epidemic.
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>He even has a book on this issue, available here:
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>https://www.amazon.com/How-Autism-Epidemic-J-B-Handley/dp/1603588248/ https://jbhandleyblog.com/home/2018/4/1/international2018
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>Here is another link to a research paper (by Tomljenovic, Exley not involved here as far as I know) connecting the usage of aluminium adjuvants to the rise of autism:
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>Do aluminum vaccine adjuvants contribute to the rising prevalence of autism?
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>This research is sadly not freely available, but if you wish to read it anyway, you can get around that with a page like www.sci-hub.tw
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>In which case it becomes more readily available:
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>https://sci-hub.tw/https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0162013411002212
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>Recently, even a respected (now smeared and his reputation destroyed of course) vaccine medical expert, employed and tasked to destroy the autism-vaccine connection has come out with info that the link undoubtedly exists. There is an interview with him on Shirley Attkinsson that can be found on YouTube.
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>Full Measure with Sharyl Attkisson: January 6, 2019 - The Vaccination Debate
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>James Corbett: Vaxx Propaganda in Overdrive as Vaccine/Autism Link Confirmed
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>For an absurdly high amount of research papers, check out this comment here.

You could read his book. Well worth your time.



https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0865715408/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493192162&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=crossing+the+rubicon&dpPl=1&dpID=41GjBSx5S8L&ref=plSrch

You're new here. Welcome, come see how deep the rabbit hole goes ....

https://www.amazon.com/Weird-Scenes-Inside-Canyon-Laurel/dp/1909394122

Good place to start, Manufacturing Consent.

Good book. https://www.amazon.com/Grey-Wolf-Escape-Adolf-Hitler/dp/1402796196

You read Trance-Formation of America? Apparently he likes them very young...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Trance-Formation-America-Story-Control/dp/0966016548

read "trance formation of america" by Kathy O'Brien and Mark Phillips.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0966016548?ie=UTF8&tag=qbitcc-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0966016548

here's a video about it. http://qbit.cc/mk-ultra-in-canada-secret-mind-control-experiments-on-humans-vid/
there's more like this on my blog.

Yes. Proof

They are all wannabes riding on the coattails of pizzagate helping each other out.

Becki wants to be famous.
Seaman wrote the book Dirty Little Secrets of Buzz: How to Attract Massive Attention for Your Business, Your Product, or Yourself and is now implementing it.

That fucker could have done something useful without playing a victim and people wouldn't have minded as much.

SS: A number of authors, both esteemed academics, like Professor Carrol Quigley, and cranks, have argued that the owners of the franchise are not some amorphous collection of businessmen acting independently at a particular point in time because of similar or naturally aligned economic interests. Rather, some of the esteemed and the less than esteemed, authors have argued that those businessmen actively collude and conspire in secret. They have done so through organizations such as the Milner Group, Rhodes Roundtable, the Council on Foreign Relations, Skull & Bones and other secret societies.


As Quigley and others have pointed out, the World War I era provided a springboard for the owners of the franchise. We would argue that the out-sized profits earned during the World War I era for a leap in control of important industries, politicians and underlying government bureaucracies, and the non-business/non-government institutions.


Was Woodrow Wilson a Victim of Kompromat?

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> I think Hersh is secretly a 9/11 truther as well, but he, like so many others, can't afford to make that jump until the climate is right to accept it

I'm thinking about starting a few new subreddits called r/LusitaniaTruthers, r/RememberTheMaineTruthers, & r/GulfofTonkinTruthers.

Trust me, all of D.C. knows what happened on 9/11.

>The trouble is, we have no idea who the real players are.

On Mole Team Bush we have Harry Reid, Dick Durbin, Claire McCaskill, and Barack Obama. On Mole Team Clinton we had Petraeus, and Rick Perry is captured because of those photographs.

Who the real players are? Rolo Tomassi, of course.

In every single protest instigated by the CIA and American NGO's, they say the same things. "The people are rising up against tyranny. They want freedom and economic opportunity. The government is inept."

There's always some truth to the poor economic issues, because of course part of the CIA playbook is to impose economic hardship on countries whose government they want to overturn. There are many ways they do this, but I would recommend you read this book if you're skeptical that this is a thing:

https://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Economic-Hit-John-Perkins/dp/0452287081

You want some REAL information? Then you need to take the time and read.

http://www.amazon.com/Israel-Lobby-U-S-Foreign-Policy/dp/0374531501

Start there. Its written by the 2 most prominent political theorists of our generation. Waltz and Mearsh have added more to political theory together than all of the other political theorists combined IMO.

These two are not 'conspiracy theorists' - they are acclaimed professors of political theory. Renowned in every respect. They wrote about the "Israeli Lobby" and its impact on US foreign relations. Its an unprecedented amount of support. I know it sounds weird to say "Zionism owns America" but to someone who is IGNORant (not a jab at you, its just the reality) it sounds strange. When you start reading about Zionism/Israel/Jews and their political impact on American foreign relations, every action you see witnessed on your TV or articles you read make contextual sense.

If you actually want knowledge, and not just facts you can peddle but not backup, then by all means go Google away. If you want a grounded understanding of how Israel buttfucks Americans so openly, start with the book.

Correct.

Also worth checking out - https://www.amazon.com/Creature-Jekyll-Island-Federal-Reserve/dp/091298645X

This is an important book for historical context: http://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Economic-Hit-John-Perkins/dp/0452287081/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1422297875&sr=1-1&keywords=confessions+of+an+economic+hitman

Read Grey Wolf, which shows how Hitlers escape was possible.

That was the same conclusion reached in The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy.

It's all there. Granted some of the updates of the initial report have been bumped off of the page, and the top of the page has an editorial by a native american (who knew Mike) that might be what you're talking about that reads like a "crazed rant."

In that respect, I would recommend reading from the bottom of the content (not the comments) and work your way up. You'll see his suicide note and most of the updates that have been made by Wes (his lawyer, business partner, and friend), and Jenna Orkin who has been working by Mokes side for years.

Also, I'm not sure what you are looking to "prove." I've followed this guys career for years so, for what it's worth, this news didn't surprise me. He committed suicide and he did so with the direct intention of making sure there was no controversy surrounding it. He did this BECAUSE he knew that his work in life was more important than people debating about his death.

So, I would recommend reading this page, get the closure you need, and go watch The Truth and Lies of 9/11 read Crossing the Rubicon.

Manufacturing Consent. Start there, here is a video break down, but read the book.

http://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Economic-Hit-John-Perkins/dp/0452287081

Confessions of an Economic Hit Man

His book is an absolute must read.

CONFESSIONS OF AN ECONOMIC HITMAN

http://www.amazon.com/Day-Deceit-Truth-About-Harbor/dp/0743201299

This ^^
I don't know WHO did it.
but I know, through the same process, that it is NOT the story we've been fed.

I highly suggest reading Crossing the Rubicon :
http://www.amazon.com/Crossing-Rubicon-Decline-American-Empire/dp/0865715408

Mike Ruppert's book on 9/11 is epic.
(http://www.amazon.com/Crossing-Rubicon-Decline-American-Empire/dp/0865715408/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1253418085&sr=8-3)

https://www.amazon.com/Creature-Jekyll-Island-Edward-Griffin/dp/091298645X?ie=UTF8&tag=permacultucom-20&link_code=btl&camp=213689&creative=392969

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found this

Get down in it https://www.amazon.com/Creature-Jekyll-Island-Federal-Reserve/dp/091298645X (buy it used or not from AMZ!)

Behold a Pale Horse by Bill Cooper

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0929385225/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_EknJzb4EG2QB5

This book is where I first saw this idea in print. http://www.amazon.com/Behold-Horse-Milton-William-Cooper/dp/0929385225
I've seen it other places but this may be where they got this from.

https://www.amazon.ca/Behold-Horse-Milton-William-Cooper/dp/0929385225

He wrote a book called Behold a Pale Horse

http://www.amazon.com/Behold-Pale-Horse-William-Cooper/dp/0929385225

Behold a Pale Horse

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/094500110X/ref=sr_1_1_twi_har_1_olp?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1458921464&sr=1-1&keywords=tragedy+and+hope

The Franklin Coverup

I think I read about some of that stuff in this book.

I think you mean The Franklin Cover-up. The Franklin Conspiracy is something else.

Sure

different guy?

https://www.amazon.com/JFK-Unspeakable-Why-Died-Matters/dp/1439193886

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srstQVfVNEM

Read this!

http://www.amazon.com/Another-Nineteen-Investigating-Legitimate-Suspects/dp/1489507833

^^^^

I haven't read it personally but this book might cover it:

http://amzn.com/1489507833

I'm not the person you asked, but I would look at David Ray Griffin's book "Debunking 9/11 Debunking", or this video of a talk he gave about the book.

Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon by David McGowan

Here is an interview with the author: Sofia Smallstorm Interviews Dave McGowan

Look into rock n roll and the laurel canyon community

https://www.amazon.com/Weird-Scenes-Inside-Canyon-Laurel/dp/1909394122


https://www.conspiracyschool.com/blog/laurel-canyon-sex-drugs-and-aliens

https://open.spotify.com/episode/58H5HM7fNtDbbRRbRVfyDY

The author converted the site into a book for sale

https://www.amazon.com/Weird-Scenes-Inside-Canyon-Laurel/dp/1909394122

David McGowan uncoverd this years ago before he was killed

This one is probably the most eye opening book available.

http://www.amazon.com/Dr-Marys-Monkey-Cancer-Causing-Assassination/dp/1937584593

Dr. Mary's Monkey

An interview; Guns and Butter:- "Dr Mary's Monkey"

The book; Dr Mary's Monkey

Interesting. Although I initially thought WTC 1 & 2 were controlled demo (back when Loose Change was cool), for awhile I've been more skeptical of it.

I still think it's possible it was at least allowed to happen, given what we do know for a fact.

Recently read Crossing the Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil after Ruppert was a guest on the Joe Rogan podcast... and although I don't really follow all his talk about PROMIS, all the drills and exercises that were happening leading up to the event & as it was happening is pretty interesting.

But it's highly unlikely we'll ever settle this. Any new investigation will be attacked regardless of its result. If it comes to a inside job conclusion, it'll be dismissed as a bunch of kooks, if it doesn't, it'll be attacked for being a whitewash.

I really don't see how anything new happening can settle the argument for both sides, so I don't really spend alot of time thinking about it.

OK this is the author of THE book on conspiracies:

Behold a Pale Horse

I have had this book since it was put out in 1991, at the time I thought it was great reading but bullshit. Now I am freaked out.

Listen to the rest of Mystery Babylon, its incredible.

Then listen to his old show Hour of the Time

Crazy note about his show, it was being done during the time Bill Clinton was elected to president. Many of the tactics we are seeing in the media and the Clintons were in place back then as well.

Have fun going down the rabbit hole.

In the McMartin Preschool trial, they pushed the "no tunnels" line. However, an archaeologist found evidence of tunnels. Dave McGowen claims, in Programmed to Kill, the evidence of the tunnels was know at the time of the trial but withheld from the jury.

I think it is Gerrard Williams, co-author of Grey Wolf: The Escape of Adolf Hitler^ebook.

Here is another interview with Williams.

Sidenote: I just want to say, I thought it was odd that the interviewer in the OP's video brought up holocaust denial when Williams's story had nothing to do with refuting the holocaust.

As documented by this author's discovery of the so-called "McCollum memo" (and other research), after the fall of France, the US gov't had an actual policy of provoking Japan so we enter WWII against Germany via the German-Japanese alliance.

I guess it depends how deep down the proverbial rabbit hole you're willing to go. If you entertain the idea that the entire war was (at least partially) theater in order to justify extravagant military budgets and broad, sweeping societal/industrial changes, then it makes sense that nothing of strategic value was attacked by the Japanese. In a scenario like that, Japan and the US technically aren't "enemies" at all in the traditional sense. Japan would have been told what to bomb and how to bomb it so that nothing truly valuable was lost. The US would be willing to sack a few old battleships if they knew it could/would be used as the justification to enter the war and change the course of the country's and world's history forever (with the US at or near the top of the food chain, of course).

This is one of the only scenarios that makes any sense to me considering that nothing Japan did at Pearl Harbor really made sense from a military strategy perspective. They had every opportunity to do real damage to the US war effort by destroying a substantial amount of the Pacific fleet and infrastructure, and yet all they did was sink a few old battleships and "damage" some others. If you truly look at the alleged damage from Pearl Harbor compared to the amount of equipment, ships, infrastructure, etc. that was typically docked there, the level of Japan's failure is pretty unbelievable (literally).

It all reminds me a bit of how Hitler let the British escape at Dunkirk or how Hitler allegedly canceled all weapons research for a couple years during the war because he thought he could "win with what he had". None of it makes any tactical sense whatsoever, despite how all the mainstream historians try to spin us.

> Do you have any good reads or docs on this?

Most of this is just the overall information I've gleaned from lots of different sources. It's basically my theory of WWII based on everything I've learned with my own speculations peppered in. I just see a lot of details and "facts" surrounding the war that make no sense at all except from the perspective that both sides were ultimately working together.

One more significant detail of that era that I think sheds some light as well: the BIS was crawling with Germans/Nazis all through the late 1930's and '40's - so basically the entire time the war was going on. There was a clause in the BIS charter saying it was immune from seizure, closure, and censure, regardless of what happened and even if its members were at war. Some of the members of the charter were First National of NY, Bank of England, Reichsbank, Bank of Italy, Bank of France, etc. Basically all of the major players and "enemies" of the war. The BIS funneled money to Germany throughout the war with the obvious consent of its member banks. Ultimately, as with everything else, it all comes back to money and power in the end imo.

If you want a book specifically about Pearl Harbor, this one is pretty decent.. The author of the book appears to be a spook and the book itself is likely a limited hangout in my opinion, but it's still a good entry-point and I think a lot of the evidence it compiles actually supports my theory that Pearl Harbor was one act in the Grand Play that is WWII, with Japan "in on it", despite that not being the author's intention.

Uh-huh... I'm full of shit, for repeating her conspiracy theories that she lays down word for word in her own book Trance formation of America.

https://www.amazon.com/Trance-Formation-America-Cathy-OBrien/dp/0966016548

>Bush apparently activated a hologram of the lizard-like "alien" which provided the illusion of Bush transforming like a chameleon before my eyes.
The effect of Bush's illusion hologram on such victims is binding and strong.
De la Madrid claimed to have Mayan/alien ancestry in his blood, whereby he transformed "back into an Iguana at will." De la Madrid produced a hologram similar to the one Bush did.
His hologram of lizard-like tongue and eyes produced the illusion that he was transforming into an Iguana.

I will say this, she doesn't necessarily think Bush is an alien, only that we have the technology to make it look like he turns into one.

This what has been driving EVERYTHING in this country and in the Middle East since Truman recognized Israel as a state in 1947.

Zionists own the US and everyone in the government.

Have doubts? Read The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy by Mearsheimer and Walt.

There is absolutely some nonsense going on with vaccines. My momma always said the truth is somewhere in the middle, and that's probably the case here, too. But here's my theory on why this is happening right now:

1. This book came out in the fall that points to a whole lot of links between vaccines and autism. https://www.amazon.com/How-Autism-Epidemic-J-B-Handley/dp/1603588248
   
   
2. The movie Vaxxed details how Dr Thompson was a whistleblower in the CDC, admitting they covered up data showing a link between MMR and autism in African Americans boys. You can watch Vaxxed free this week here http://vaxxedthemovie.com/24hourvaxxed/
   
   
3. Dr Zimmerman a PRO VAX CDC EXPERT admitted vaccines can cause autism. He was subsequently fired and not allowed to be their expert witness anymore. https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/425061-how-a-pro-vaccine-doctor-reopened-debate-about-link-to-autism
   
   Some people think all of this is easily explained away. But there is a whole lot of smoke.
   
   
   ETA my only conspiracy-type-thought is that maybe there's another bombshell about to drop and they want to get as many people vaccinated as possible before that. Maybe it's something to do with Merck being sued for falsifying the data on mumps efficacy for their MMR. https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/lawrence-solomon/merck-whistleblowers_b_5881914.html

This beat it to it

[Day Of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor](http://www.amazon.com/Day-Deceit-Truth-About-Harbor/dp/0743201299 "Day Of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor")

Rather high up on our horses aren't we? Fact is, by accepting the official story you "rational" thinkers are accepting a set of completely irrational arguments rife with physical impossibilities and contradictions. With respect to the referenced hit piece, the Hearst published Popular Mechanics article and book have both been eviscerated point by point by David Ray Griffin in his book Debunking 9/11 Debunking. One memorable aspect is that many senior staff were suddenly fired for no apparent reason in the weeks prior to the publication, making way for under-qualified people like Benjamin Chertoff, nephew of Michael Chertoff. But that aside, the collection of straw man arguments presented in that article is truly laughable. The degree they bent over backwards to avoid our actual evidence says all you need to know about their intentions. And for the record, Griffin's book is perhaps the most exhaustive work of rationality I've ever read outside of computer science. The man is fricking meticulous.

Always amuses me the similarities (in general) between Pearl harbor and 9/11 and how they were able to get away with the same thing 60+ years later.

If you're bored, grab Day of Deceit....great book on the PH conspiracy

https://www.amazon.com/Grey-Wolf-Escape-Adolf-Hitler/dp/1402796196 I got the title wrong

>I was talking about "The New Pearl Harbor", are they part of the same conspiracy?

"The New Pearl Harbor" was written by PNAC. They are the origin of the phrase.

>I'm going to try to find everyone involed in the set up of 9-11 and research them and see what role each person played, same thing with organisations, and government administrations, etc.

You're biting off more than you can chew. There are dozens of books about this. Your paper would be thousands of pages long.

This book names 19 people "involved in the set-up of 9/11".

If you don't read that book, here are 5 hours of interviews with the author which discuss the 19 suspected individuals:

http://www.kpfa.org/archive/show/34/2013/08

http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/95210

You should skip the first hour -- start with any other hour -- then end with the first hour, which is background information.

If you don't buy the book, the author has many articles on the Internet and his website that contain chapters from the book.

If I were you, I'd skip trying to explain the entirety of 9/11 for your project and work on a much smaller project, such as "Who were PNAC and what did they want". PNAC contains many of the probable 9/11 conspirators who were later in the Bush Administration and government. Looking to explain "everyone in 9/11" will take you years.

Vice suffers from a strange and terrible schizophrenia when it comes to 9/11. It loves to give people who point out the obvious problems with the official story a kicking and yet it rightly worships the memory of Michael Ruppert who was one of the greatest and most courageous 9/11 investigators there's ever been.

Nah... see it's like gill netting. He only gathered the target audience. Some slip through the net, some go over and around.

Back in the early days when AJ went online it was really obvious.

Now let's have some context. I hate the man. I was a listener to THOOT from day 1. Having read his book already.

AJs early web activity was an obvious honeypot and all that signed up were either blind or deluded.

Dr. Mary's Monkey. (Appropriate on the anniversary of the assassination of JFK)

http://www.amazon.com/Dr-Marys-Monkey-Cancer-Causing-Assassination/dp/1937584593

RIP

Edit: He was legit and murdered.

https://www.amazon.com/Behold-Horse-Milton-William-Cooper/dp/0929385225

Programmed to Kill?

https://www.amazon.de/Programmed-Kill-Politics-Serial-Murder/dp/0595326404

I know you're joking but GWB does seem to exude a lot of the characteristics of a child abuse victim. His own father is painted as a manipulative pedophile by MK Ultra survivor Cathy Obrien in her book, "Trance: Formation of America".

The book is actually titled "The Franklin Cover-up: Child Abuse, Satanism, and Murder in Nebraska".

You can get in in physical or ebook form, here.

I chose it for my staff recommends when I was working at Barnes and Noble.

>Countries willingly provide their resources and let American and European multinational corporate conglomerates pillage and rape their lands for pennies.

It is obvious that you are not objective, and it sounds like you are only half awake. US bombs everyone that says "no" to "pillage" and "rape" of their lands. US funds coups to support anyone that allows that.

Read a little, it's good for you.

Again, the point is none of them are killing globally like the Americans are killing non-Americans.

Yeah, since most of these events are creations of the deep state. See Dave McGowan's book: Programmed to Kill: The Politics of Serial Murder.

http://www.amazon.com/Programmed-Kill-Politics-Serial-Murder/dp/0595326404/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1411384184&sr=1-3&keywords=dave+mcgowan

I don't claim to know one way or another, I don't believe anything, but I do find the official story bordering on ridiculous. Just a for instance, 19 Saudis pull off major attack, so we invade Afghanistan and Iraq? I understand the Afghani one to an extent since that is where Osama "was." But every reason for the Iraqi invasion has turned out to be full of shit. So why did we do nothing about Saudi involvement?

If you want a book that will at least make you think about the entirety of the global situation at the time more critically you can try this one: http://www.amazon.com/Crossing-Rubicon-Decline-American-Empire/dp/0865715408 . His claims about peak oil and what not aren't bulletproof but his argument and evidence about 9/11 paints a pretty interesting picture. Again, I'm not a full blooded truther, but I'm not a blind patriot either.

edit: fixed the link

Kaczynski made a lot of sense until he started talking about a violent uprising.

I would add to the list "Tragedy and Hope" by Carroll Quigley.

And anything / everything by Philip K. Dick.

Further reading:

Dr. Mary's Monkey: How the Unsolved Murder of a Doctor, a Secret Laboratory in New Orleans and Cancer-Causing Monkey Viruses Are Linked to Lee Harvey Oswald, the JFK Assassination and Emerging Global Epidemics

Me & Lee: How I Came to Know, Love and Lose Lee Harvey Oswald

Here's an overview of Me and Lee I wrote a while back.

Also, watch this lecture: The Exploding Autoimmune Epidemic

Here's a summary I put together of this excellent video.

you're not arguing. you're posting a link.. here's my rebuttal for your link.. they can go have their own argument.

Debunking 9/11 Debunking: An Answer to Popular Mechanics and Other Defenders of the Official Conspiracy Theory

too bad you can't think or argue for yourself. what a shit job. next.

Those are some old, old official story talking points there man. I mean really, you are mocking NORAD & the biggest military budget, several times over, on the face of the earth? We weren't capable of intercepting/defending against 3 civilian airlines gone hostile? Come on. It's 2014. All the things you've listed have been debunked by researchers - not paid pundits & propagandists.

Testimony from Controlled Demolition Expert Danny Jowenko (deceased) ON WTC7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zHHvo6U4lA

Debunking 9/11 Debunking: 4/5 stars http://www.amazon.com/Debunking-11-Mechanics-Defenders-Conspiracy/dp/156656686X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1410494781&sr=8-1&keywords=debunking+9%2F11+debunking

POP Mechanics Debunking 9/11 Myths (latest 2011 version) 2 1/2 stars: http://www.amazon.com/Debunking-11-Myths-Conspiracy-Theories/dp/1588165477/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1410494819&sr=8-1&keywords=debunking+9%2F11

9/11 commission report: 2 1/2 stars http://www.amazon.com/11-Commission-Report-Terrorist-Authorized/dp/0393326713/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1410494837&sr=8-1&keywords=9%2F11+commision

9/11 New Jersey Police Officer Breaks Silence: Israeli Mossad Involved in 9/11 attacks](https://archive.org/details/9-11CopBreaksSilence-IsraeliMossadInvolvementInAttacks)

Army General Wesley Clark: Wars are Planned RE: Memo to take out 7 countries in 5 years: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw

US MAJOR Stubblebine exposes 9/11 cover up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0xzsbSbVUE



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Every major war started with a false flag or a lie; this includes the Spanish American War, WW1, WW2, Vietnam, and 9/11. The only concern of the powers at be is to maintain control of the world’s resources and the implementation of the petrodollar to our debt holders. NATO is fighting to fulfill Agenda 21/The 2030 Agenda - the controlling of all land and resources, with a much smaller population. This is a 60-100(ish) year long initiative to create a world that is not "for the people".

This guy gives a quick summary of things - I don't necessary think he's completely legit, but research the things he talks about and the people behind them, and the history of the events.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCzR7NCeMYA /

Most people here didn't see a YouTube video or not take their bipolar medicine, they saw some shit; or experienced something, and began to dig into it; the more they dug, the more their view of reality changed. The thing that kept them from feeling crazy, is they found a place like this with people that were drawing the same conclusions.

A few books...

Behold a Pale Horse

Dope, Inc

[The Creature from Jekyll Island](
https://www.amazon.com/Creature-Jekyll-Island-Federal-Reserve/dp/091298645X?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-d-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=091298645X)

Good start. But why would you leave out the 1963 coup in which the power elite murdered President Kennedy? It's the Rosetta Stone. I only see a passing mention of him in the Operation Northwoods section.

For that matter, how about RFK?

Back to JFK--

The motives:

-President Kennedy was ending the Cold War with Russia. He reached out to them repeatedly thru both private letters and public speeches, including his landmark “peace speech” at American University. He signed the Test Ban Treaty with Russia. He even suggested combined US and Russian space programs.

-He saved the world from Nuclear War, in spite of massive pressure from his military hawks, by acting with tremendous wisdom and restraint during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

-He was withdrawing from Vietnam and had drawn up detailed plans to do so as described in NSAM 263--in conjunction with the McNamara-Taylor report, which LBJ reversed with NSAM 273 within hours of becoming president.

-He made peaceful overtures to Castro, including thru back channels on the day he was murdered.

-He rejected his military staff’s proposal of Operation Northwoods, a false flag terrorism scheme to frame the Cuban government for (among other things) crashing planes into US buildings (yeah, like 911) and thereby justify invasion of Cuba.

-He showed incredible resolve and courage resisting war in spite being surrounded by blood-thirsty war mongers like Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Lyman L. Lemnitzer (who proposed Operation Northwoods to JFK), and Air Force General Curtis LeMay (who wanted to attack Russia preemptively with nuclear bombs--and was the inspiration for the Jack D. Ripper character in Dr Strangelove). In fact JFK referred to himself as a “peace at any price President.”

-He wanted to eliminate the CIA and took major steps to lessen their power. He fired top CIA officials Allen Dulles, Richard Bissell and Charles Cabell. He dramatically cut the CIA’s staff. And--most significantly--he issued NSAMs 55, 56, & 57 which stripped large scale covert operations from the CIA and put them under the auspice of the military.

-He was pro-union and stood up to US Steel in support of the Steel Worker’s Union.

-He acted to eliminate tax breaks for the wealthy, including the Oil Depletion Allowance.

-He was against the World Bank/IMF.

-He supported independence of African countries to use their own resources to help their own people. In fact Eisenhower ordered the CIA to murder Congolese leader Patrice Lumumba days before JFK was inaugurated, because of JFK’s support of Lumumba.

-He ordered the US government to print their own money instead of the privately owned Federal Reserve.

-He supported civil rights by sending troops to enforce desegregation of the University of Alabama and ‘Ol Miss.”

-He put all his investments in a blind trust when he became President, so his decisions as President were not affected by where his money was. He did this without making a big deal about it; he simply did it because it was the right thing to do.

-JFK was witty and articulate. He was uplifting, charismatic and inspiring. Watch his press conferences. Watch his speeches.

He was a great great president. A true populist president. He made powerful enemies.

Obviously.

I highly recommend these works on the subject:

“JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters” by James W. Douglass (flawed but good)

“The Devil's Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of America's Secret Government” by David Talbot

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In summation:

Kennedy was the president of the 99% so the 1% despised him.

Kennedy was a peace monger surrounded by war mongers.

Kennedy was ethical in an unethical government.