(Part 2) Top products from r/cordcutters

So I had some issue with signal - I had to place my antennas (yes plural) pretty precisely in my attic. As fshagan mentioned Fox is VHF-HI - so different and/or multiple antennas might help.

My setup was... pretty intensive to setup. Probably took me ~40hrs+ over multiple weekends to get just right. But now its rock-solid and I have a lot of capability (e.g. DVR), and I'm not paying for cable. So the cost was high in terms of time commitment (and dollars) but I'm very, very pleased with the value I got. So you need to assess for yourself what you are willing to commit in terms of upfront time and dollar cost for what value you want.

SO back to your situation, if you wanted to somewhat copy what I have...

For UHF channels, pointed at your 105 degree sources, try this in your attic: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CXQO00K
For Fox, pointed 84 degrees, try this in your attic: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014M0XXES
For PBS/CBS: use the one you already have

Now you could probably combine the signal via coax somehow and send through your house. I have heard that is possible but I can't speak to it since that's not my setup. What I did was buy multiple older model HDHomeruns for about $50 each (e.g. checkout this link http://www.ebay.com/bhp/hdhomerun-dual - though at the moment there are only newer models which are pricier)

With the HDHomeruns, you can then get the multiple TV signals on your home network. If you don't have Ethernet you can try the new HDHomerun Extend that alleged works over WiFi - though that is pricier and I can't speak to it firsthand since I haven't used it.

Once the HDHomeruns are on your network, you can use a computer to play TV. I use Windows7+Media Center, with old xbox 360s as "Media Center Extenders". I've also heard good things about NextPVR though I didn't have a great experience with it (I think my computer may have been under-powered though possibly)

The great the about going HDHomerun+Computer is that you get DVR and TV guide capability. I even have a remote control that connects to the computer too - so its all a very nice experience. The down side is that it is a good amount of work to set it all up.

Also - there is an HDHomerun "signal app" - I highly recommend it. It was VERY helpful to me to just use the app on my phone in the attic while positioning the antennas. The instant feedback was REALLY helpful.

Anyway sorry for the long post - but if you want to go "all out" on the OTA TV setup, you might give my setup a try. Alternatively you could just take parts of it (e.g. multiple antennas but just combine over coax) and maybe that will work better for your situation.

its going to be pretty difficult to get signal where you are. Maybe you can get that one spanish channel but thats probably about it.

On the other hand I have an 8bay antenna that gets me stations as weak as some of the ones you want and i use a channel master 7777 amp with it ...

But you are at 40 feet .. what is that calculation anticipating? A pole on top of a 2 story home?

i would save a little money off that db8e which is a great antenna but you can do as well with one third its price

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00CXQO00K/ref=sr_1_2_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1482771311&sr=8-2&keywords=xtreme+signal+8+bay&condition=used

and get a channel master 7777

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000GGKOG8/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1482771386&sr=8-1&keywords=channel+master+7777&condition=used

but honestly .. you are probably better off getting the Direct Now $35 a month streaming package with 100 channels.. it kinda sucks a bit right now but if you get the free apple tv or firestick it will work well enough until they work out support for more devices.

Sure np, there is a $60 tuner available for XBOX One. I picked up a 50-mile Clearstream Eclipse antenna, connected it directly to the tuner, then the tuner plugs into an open USB port on the back of your XONE. If you're like me I already had a port devoted to my Kinect, and another to a 3TB drive so this filled up all my ports (you can buy a hub for relatively cheap that takes care of this problem). Anyway...once you plug everything in the XBOX will recognize your new device and ask if you would like to scan for channels, it also asks for your zip code for the on-screen OTA channel guide that looks quite similar to most cable companies. Finally, it asks if you would like to devote 4 gigs of your HD space to the 30-minute pause function. Very easy to set-up, everything plays right through the XBOX OneGuide app.

Edit: Use this website to see how many free OTA channels you have in your area, as well as how far they are away from you...this will help determine the strength of the antenna you need to buy. https://www.fcc.gov/media/engineering/dtvmaps

4 people streaming regularly on a $40 router is probably asking for reboots and slowdowns. I don't own any of the routers on this review site, but you might want to look that over. Their pick for best cheap router is the TP-LINK TL-WDR3600

You have to think of routers like little computers that literally route network signals to each of your devices within your home. Just like a computer, the cheaper routers have slower processors and less RAM, which can slow things down pretty quickly when multiple people are doing bandwidth-intensive things like streaming.

I'd seriously consider upping your budget if you want a smooth streaming experience in your house.

Personally, I have a ASUS RT-N66U and it's an amazing router, and I've never had a single issue with it, but it's well above your price range.

Since you haven't bought it yet...

Look up the WD TV Live. It's another set top box and really shines when it comes to playing local content. It has greater codec support than the roku and doesn't have to use plex or get things transcoded. You can hook up your hard drives to the WD TV via USB and play files directly, saving you the need of involving your laptop.

The downside is you can't get the prettied up UI of plex, but the basic file-folder navigation style is simple and easy.

Roku is great for accessing official streaming services, but it's simply outdone by the WD TV Live when it comes to local content playback.

http://www.amazon.com/Streaming-Media-Player-Wi-Fi-1080p/dp/B005KOZNBW

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136997

Online shops advertise it as costing $120 but always have it discounted to $100...and I don't know why because Western Digital's official price for it is $99. So don't pay more then that.

WiDi works by acting as a wireless cable. So imagine that it's like the same as connecting through hdmi, since the adapter will likely take in or output hdmi on either end. In this manner, it basically treats the TV as a monitor, so whatever you can do with your current hdmi connection, you should be able to do with the WiDi adapters.

In regards to the product, it'd be more helpful if you gave a direct link, but if you mean this item, then that's a different beast altogether. This one is basically a media player that looks for media shares, so similar in functionality to a Roku or similar.

Which one to get really depends on what your wider preference is. Both will let you stream netflix to your TV and play files from your local media shares, but the media player limits you to those activities. This comes with the benefit of a TV friendly user interface(usually) and a remote, so you don't even need your computer nearby as long as it's on the network.

WiDi will require you to keep a keyboard and mouse handy, wireless is helpful here, since you're basically operating your computer/laptop and the TV is acting as the monitor. However, WiDi allows you do to anything you can do on your computer on the TV screen, whether it's playing games, browsing the internet, doing work, etc.

The name of the game for OTA in SF Bay Area is Sutro Tower - also, a notable landmark, see: http://www.larrykenney.com/sutrotwr.html

Luckily, you are within 40 miles, so you should have good results with a decent attic antenna set up.

You can ignore the other reply about Low VHF stations. Those are low power, extreme niche JUNK channels (think, Shopping Channel in Vietnamese, GOD TV, Korean News, etc.) - worthless to target unless you fall within that narrow particular niche. Here is good list of what these are for SF Bay Area: http://www.choisser.com/sfonair2.html

Sutro Tower gets you Fox 2 (44 real), ABC 7 (7 real), CBS 5 (29 real) PBS 9 (30 real), plus some really good second tiers - CW, and KOFY, MeTV, and ThisTV. Notwithstanding ABC 7 being listed as 7 VHF, I get ABC 7 as strong UHF 35. So, Sutro Tower is bascally a UHF antenna affair.

However, just south of Sutro Tower is Mnt. San Bruno. It has NBC 11 which IS broadcasting in VHF (12 real). It is one of 2 broadcasting 1080 (other is CBS), so definitely worth targeting. Therefore, you should have a good UHF antenna (Sutro Tower stations) plus decent VHF to get NBC.

I have good results with ClearStream 4V: https://www.amazon.com/ClearStream-Indoor-Outdoor-Antenna-Mount/dp/B00SVNKT86/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1517716978&sr=1-1&keywords=ClearStream+4V

(May be superceded by ClearStream 4Max)
This gets you good UHF and VHF. However, you may want to detach the VHF portion and aim independently, since the respective transmitters are at different angles.

Pre-amp is a must, I use this from Channel Master:

https://www.channelmaster.com/Amplify_TV_Antenna_Preamplifier_p/cm-7777hd.htm

I no longer split my signal to various TVs. Instead, I send to digital tuner (HDHomerun Quatro) which can output 4 simultaneous to my LAN connected TVs (just use Powerline).

Finally, not sure how you can be in Napa and within 40 miles of Sutro Tower and not be Line of Sight - as Sutro Tower is 1700’ above average terrain - unless you are hugging Sonoma Mtns or similar. Typically, much of Napa has clear shot to Sutro Tower.

I noticed some have advised replacing the DISH splitters with regular splitters. That may or may not be necessary; if it's an older dish system the splitters it used may be perfectly capable of splitting the signal from your antenna. On the other hand, if the dish had multiple LNB's on it then you probably will need to remove and replace all the Dish Network splitters. If you can post a good, clear picture of the splitter(s) we can probably tell you if they will need to be replaced.

However if you are in an area where all your received signals are a bit on the weak side then you may instead want to replace any splitters with an amplified splitter such as one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001PI09SE?keywords=channel%20master%20splitter&qid=1449601660&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

Note they come in 2, 4, and 8 port models so you can match the number of outputs to the number of TV's you are feeding. The idea is to eliminate the loss normally associated with splitting the signal. On the other hand, if all the signals you want to receive are very strong, then adding one of these would be overkill and you can just get by with a passive splitter. If you post a link to your TVFool report we can give you better advice on this.

There is a way to do it, yes, but it will be a bit more complicated than your description. I had a similar situation in my house when I cut the cord. I put the antenna in the attic with a distribution amplifier similar to this. The in-wall coax is definitely ok to use with either antenna or cable service.

One output of the amplifier was connected to a TV in a room immediately below. The other output went to the original cable which dropped through the walls to the basement where the original cable signal had come in. Another distribution amplifier there distributed the signal to four other rooms with TV jacks. (Note that the line from the antenna became the input signal to the basement amplifier; it was originally connected to one of the outputs.)

If your signals are strong and/or you don't need to split the signal at the antenna, you may not need the first distribution amplifier at the antenna.

This works well for all the TVs, getting about 35 channels. We are about 20 miles from most of the TV transmitters.

Hope this helps!

You want a VHF/UHF designed antenna. WTVD/ABC is on VHF-Hi. Most leaf/flat style (and bay style) antennas aren't designed for VHF. Your optimal direction is South-East. If it will fit pointing in this direction, then I would go for a Winegard HD7698P or HD7694P in an attic. If you have an unused satellite dish J-mount then you could probably give a Winegard FreeVision a test run (easily returnable), but you would probably have the best results with a larger yagi-style antenna.

VHF/UHF designed antennas:

• rabbit ears + loop (RCA ANT111F or amplified RCA310F)
  
• Winegard FlatWave (Home Depot, amplified version available online)
  
• Winegard FreeVision (Home Depot)
  
• Winegard HD-1080/Xtreme Signal HD1080x
  
• Channel Master STEALTHtenna
  
• RCA ANT751
  
• Winegard HD7000R
  
• 1byone OUS00-0557
  
• GE Pro Outdoor Yagi Antenna (Walmart)
  
• Antennas Direct Element
  
• Winegard HD7694P
  
• Winegard HD7698P
  
• Distribution amplifier
  
• Optional preamp: Winegard LNA-100 (indoor), LNA-200, or RCATVPRAMP1R (outdoor)
  
  See this post for more information on connecting an antenna using existing unused coax cables and sharing a single indoor/outdoor/attic antenna between multiple TVs/DVRs. The same applies to satellite coax cable runs or sharing an antenna in another room. Only difference is where you're mounting/connecting your antenna. This is something you can do yourself if the cables are within easy reach, but you can also hire a satellite installer who is willing to install antennas.

Hey, thanks for getting back to me.

Is the antenna connected directly to the HDHomeRun or are there splitters in between?

Connected directly by one long Coax. No splitters in-between.

This is the splitter : https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001EKCGT8

> Are you saying you're experiencing pixelation on NBC or commenting on the signal ratings?

Both Pixelation and strength ratings. What kind of strength/signal should I be looking for? I'm assuming over a certain point, 60/70/80, it should look pretty good most of the time.

Generally speaking you'll always get better results with a higher gain/larger antenna or repositioning the antenna for the best reception. Your optimal direction is South-Southeast, but try slight variations to find a sweet spot.

I get this. I might try a larger antenna to see what happens. I've adjusted in small increments to see if the channel increases. Most are good

I'll see how the amplifier works today.

I own a Boxee Box, 1st Gen AppleTV running crystalbuntu (Linux w/ XMBC + CrystalHD/1080p support) and a little set-top PC running Plex.

Here is my consensus.

Easiest:

If you primarily want to watch streaming content like Netflix, Vudu movie rentals, and other various content from the web, the boxee is a real winner. It organizes and helps you locate content from around the web and puts it into and easy to use 10ft interface. The keyboard isn't backlit which is annoying, and the interface can slow down a bit during load.

I've also found that every once in a while it needs a reboot just because. (Especially after a larger movie like 1080i)
Also, Boxee Box sucks for large high quality files. It locks up with 1080p .ts files, (or at least takes 1-4minutes to load) and lots of .mkv files make it cry/slideshow. Most content on the web is 720p or less.

Moderate skills:

If you primarily watch video content that you have downloaded, a set-top pc is (IMO) the winner. You can put in hardware that can actually handle 1080p without croaking. Your selection of input devices is much, much larger, and you don't have to worry about something coming out that your device can't support.

The other advantage is that you can set up that set-top pc to be your media downloading/storing device. Transmission, Sabnzbd+ w/ Sickbeard + Couchpotato + Headphones can automate the entire process and give you what amounts to an internet based DVR (With music too.) You could even install Subsonic and serve the music to your phone to stream while you're away.

Tech savvy:

If you watch mostly local content, but also want to be able to rent stuff easily, a 1st gen AppleTV with crystalbuntu is the best/cheapest solution. You can pick up a used ATV for around $50 on craigslist and get a CrystalHD card for ~$40. This will handle 1080p files for less than $100 as long as you have some technical know-how and a free usb stick >4GB (Or don't mind formatting the internal HDD) You can even remove the USB stick and boot into ATV to use their rental service for instant access to films giving you a sort of "Best of both worlds"

Of course, with all it's strengths, a set-top PC/Hacked ATV requires you to build/install/configure/modify all of it. For many people, that alone is the killer feature of a boxee box.

Would this be the best one? Its the newest. Amazon Link WD TV
This has no Netflix for some reason..

There is also this one which has older software I believe. Amazon Link WD TV Live

There is also a WD TV Play, but no USB included.


...

Ordering a WD TV Live 3rd Gen WDBHG70000NBK. Seems to be the best.

I had success browsing ebay for a laptop with a cracked screen. I just had to make sure that the laptop screen wasn't so bad that I couldn't windows (to make sure I could change settings to recognize the tv being plugged in) and make sure the laptop had hdmi output. I ended up with a nice hp for just over $100.

It now has xbmc, hot keys to hulu, netflix, torrent sites/client, and I have a vpn (private internet acces, ~$40/year). Soon I'll have Aereo to replace USTVnow that I have setup on xbmc. I bought this keyboard/mouse to make browsing easier. My wife and I are very happy with this setup and never have any sort of issue. The only other thing I buy is NHL Gamecenter to watch on my ps3 (although if there is a similar work around to this as there is NFL games, I'd gladly drop it).

All your popular networks are predicted to be reasonably strong, are from the same direction (east), and are all in the UHF TV band. So things look pretty promising for your experiment.

You would get good performance and would have an easy time with aiming if you used a 4 bay UHF type:

• Solid Signal HDB4X AKA Digiwave ANT2086 AKA Stellar Labs 30-2425
  
• Channel Master CM4221HD
  
• Antennas Direct DB4e
  
  You said cheap; you could give up some performance by going to a 2 bay UHF type and pay a bit less:
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Eagle-Aspen-EASDTV2BUHF-Directv-Approved/dp/B000GIT002/
  
• http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/STELLAR-LABS-30-2420-/30-2420
  

Yes, there is.

You need a ATSC tuner for your PC (see here or here).

Also, you need some sort of DVR software. Some come with the tuner, or you can get a better solution by doing something like this.

The easiest solution though if you have an xbox might be to get the Hauppauge Digital TV Tuner for Xbox One as you can just plug it in and install the app and your xbox is now a DVR.

EDIT: Correction, the Xbox option doesn't have full DVR functionality yet. Read more.

Some other DVR options, like the ChannelMaster DVR+.

You are really close to a ton of towers. Any UHF antenna will get you perfect reception.

If you want a small form factor, I'd suggest something like the AmazonBasics HD antenna. I can get channels that broadcast about 20-30 miles away, and that's with mounting the antenna behind my tv with a window on the other side of the room. Pretty sweet.

If you want better reception and more channels, opt for a VHF/UHF antenna you can mount in your attic or on the roof.

Your antenna is amplified. I have the same one and that little box powers the built-in amplfier.

However, you have a lot of splitting going on. Each splitter decreases the signal, you can see it right on the label. One decreases by 7db and the other by 3.5db, so you are losing up to 10.5db with those splitters. That probably offsets 3/4 of the amplification you're getting from the antenna.

What I would recommend (since you have power nearby) is something like this: https://smile.amazon.com/Digital-Amplifier-Internet-Signal-Booster/dp/B001EKCGT8/ref=pd_cp_23_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=QCZKQFKXXX7SCA9MR4C2 which in contrast to losing signal will maintain or increase the downstream signal to your devices.

Remember: the amplified antenna is improving the signal reception, the signal booster is improving the signal distribution within the house. Remove any other unnecessary splitters to improve the signal distribution (even empty cables can decrease signal).

And check the antenna direction, sometimes pointing just off the strongest signal will allow you to pick up more distant stations or weaker signals. In this case let the amplified antenna do some of the work for you.

EDIT: Make sure there are no splitters between the antenna and that little power box. If so you will lose the antenna amplification. If possible, actually use the cable they provided to run between the box and the antenna (I found it worked better than a cat-6 I had on hand, perhaps it is optimized in some way).

Was hoping for more specifics really, so I could see what wireless protocols they support.

Basically, at the very least your devices all likely support wireless 802.11n, hopefully both 2.4ghz and 5ghz frequencies. To that end, I would suggest at least getting a dual band 802.11 router with external antennas. If you want to future proof or you have devices that support it, I would suggest spending a few more $ and getting an 802.11ac router. Wireless 802.11ac is a game changer as far as I am concerned, with its introduction of beam forming technology.

Personal suggestions:

For an 802.11ac router: Asus RT-AC66U

For a dual band 802.11n router: Asus RT-N66U

There are Netgear equivalents of course, though I do strongly recommend something with external antennas.

Finally, I am sure someone will come here saying how you should hardwire everything, wireless is shit, etc. Point of fact is wireless is a YMMV situation and hardwiring everything isn't always practical. The first step though is buying the right equipment. If you buy a cheap router, you'll have a cheap experience.

Nice work, you will most def get more channels if you mount it up in the attic, depending of course on where you live. I was going to build my own antenna but bailed and decided to buy one after some research.

I just mounted this antenna up in my attic. I bought it on Amazon for around$20 at the time and I must say 40+ OTA HD channels later, $$$ well spent. Expensive does not always mean better. I had a Terk and while it did an adequate job this antenna blew it away and was half the price! OH, and I recommend getting an amplifier too, I bought an RCA 10B+ for $10, and thats all i need. (I did get channels without but picked up a few more with it)

http://www.amazon.com/Eagle-Aspen-Dtv2Buhf-Directv-Antenna/dp/B000GIT002/ref=sr_1_49?ie=UTF8&qid=1312512578&sr=8-49

GL HF! F dem cable companies!

It all depends on what the signal strength is in your area and how many devices you plan to split to. Each of the splits loses 3.5 db of signal strength and if you live in an rural area away from the station source it could have a negative impact.

I just ordered distributed amp because I'm around 60 miles from most stations and preserving signal strength is a must while still being connected to 4 devices. It's essentially a powered splitter so all TVs have the same signal strength that comes in from the antenna.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001EKCGT8/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Your best bet is to do some research on tvfool.com and get an idea what your antenna is getting now for strength then make a choice if a simple split will suffice.

I've never heard of "ahere" as a manufacturer, so I suspect it's a marketing company rather than a company that actually makes and tests the antennas. You have gotten some nice suggestions for antennas people know to be good.

I had good luck with both my ChannelMaster CM4228, but it's large; probably too large for your attic. This ClearStream 4V didn't work as well for me for a very weak VHF station, but my brother in law is using it and likes it. They make a 60 mile version that is smaller and can probably fit in your attic space.

I think upofadown's suggestion for either a Winegard HD7694 or ChannelMaster CM-2018 are good choices. But they are 78" long, and they can be hard to fit into small spaces.

I put a ClearStream 4V in my attic and I've been pretty happy with it. I use a pre-amp with it since I'm running the cable through my basement, along the side of the house, then into the attic (rather than fishing wires through the attic). If your dish's coax runs through the attic/roof then it'd be even easier to tap into that line.

Obviously it would be ideal to have the least amount of obstructions as possible, so if roof-mounting is an option, you should go for it. Get a bigger oldschool antenna (like one of these) and you can probably mount it to the same pole or receiver as your dish.

I've had it for a year now, so I would recommend a newer CPU/Motherboard. And please note that this unit is only up to running old arcade games, not something that takes a lot of display horsepower. Here is the system I built, it is running OpenELEC:

Case - Thermaltake Element Q - $75

Motherboard/CPU/APU - Asus AT5IONT-I - $180

Memory - Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) - $30

SSD - Crucial M4 64GB - $73

Blu-ray Drive - I have a discontinued Sony Optiarc full height unit - I would recommend - Asus Black 12X BD-ROM - $53

A couple of items that made the build easier:

10" SATA Cables - $10

1 Foot Right Angle Power Cord - $9

TOTAL: $430

EDIT: I forgot the remote. Any Windows Media remote works, I chose this one ($21) since its IR unit seemed to have a wide angle of signal capture, which it does. I also have a small mini-keyboard/remote ($37) for those times I need it.

EDIT II: I also forgot that I have a HD HomeRun ($90) to support TV. Storage is handled by a Startech 2 Drive Enclosure ($72) with 2 WD AV-GP WD20EURS 2TB ($120 each) These will be replaced by a server when I can afford it.

This makes a grand total that might not be so attractive: $430 for the HTPC + $460 for peripherals and storage = $890

I recently made this post and went with this antenna based on the recommendation in the comments.

I just installed it this last weekend and I'm happy to say that I got almost all of my desired channels. There are a couple that I lost when I made the run to my house distribution box instead of directly to the TV, but all-in-all, I'm happy (no amplifier was necessary).

It's not under $100, but all I can say is that it worked for me. Seeing as you have 2x groups of stations, using the bowtie would work out well for you.

I'd look something like (top down):

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If it were Me, I'd get this:

http://www.amazon.com/Zotac-ZBOX-1-6GHz-Barebone-ZBOX-AD02-U/dp/B004XYJLY0/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1319408109&sr=1-7

and this

http://www.amazon.com/SiliconDust-HDHomeRun-Definition-Television-HDHR3-US/dp/B004HO58SO/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_title_0

FWIW, this is what I currently own today:

http://www.barrymorrison.com/2011/04/25/my-htpc-coming-soon/

http://www.barrymorrison.com/2011/05/01/my-htpc-its-here/

Only thing I'd do differently, is a dual-tuner. BUT this was at Woot for $80 so I did it! A dual-tuner is a necessity (for me IMO).

Good luck!

I do use the official Xbox One Happauge OTA and it works really well. All the Kinect commands work flawless and I love it. My only complaint is that you can only record/pause for 30 minutes and you cannot schedule to record in advance. Although this is said to change this year in an update (should allow more recording time and scheduling)

Prior to this, I used Mediasonic HW-150PVR. This also worked flawless and Xbox One commands worked as well. The only downside to this box was that it was larger than the Happauge tuner. Otherwise, this is a great DVR/OTA tuner. Just pop in an extra flash drive for the hard drive and you are set to go.

Both work great and had/have great picture quality. I just wish the Happauge would allow for scheduling and longer than 30 minute recording but again, that is rumored to change this year.

Go to TV Fool and run a report. It will tell you what type of antenna you need, how to orient your antenna to pick up stations, and how far away each broadcaster is. Set up your antenna, (ranges from anywhere from free (a paperclip), to around $400 for a CM-3020 a CM-7777 preamp, a rotator, and a mast). and do a channel scan.

Unless you're VERY far away from the transmitting towers, you'll probably not need to spend much money to get a quite a range of selection of channels to choose from. The only way to tell is to run a TV Fool report for your address. Obviously which stations you are able to pick up will vary by location. For instance, if I were to be able to pick up everything within a 100 mile radius of myself, I'd have about 40 channels OTA.

Using an antenna will help greatly for "just noise" TV, or if you have a data cap in place with your ISP. There is no such thing as a "digital antenna". In those days, one channel would take up the whole spectrum, (and in the case of channel 6, bleed over into the FM band).

Today, in that exact same bandwidth where one channel used to be, it is now possible to push out 8 SD channels, or 6 HD channels. (or 4 SD and 2HD). Where you used to be able to get maybe 6 channels on a good day in the NTSC days, you could now pick up 40 channels. This being said, they're known as "subchannels" since they're sharing the same bandwidth that the primary channel is allocated by the FCC. However, on the end user end, the only difference between the subchannels and the normal channels is the presence of the period, or dash button, (instead of 4, it would be 4.2)

Any antenna will work to receive television. If you have an old aerial from 1948 on top of your house, it will be able to pick up everything broadcast today, (so long as it has the proper elements for the frequency you wish to receive). VHF Lo isn't used much anymore, but VHF Hi and UHF are still in wide use. However, because of the FCC reverse auctions, this may change in the future. If you have an antenna manufactured after the 70's when UHF started to become popular, then it will work no problem. I still have my old indoor antenna that I bought in 1994 as a backup to my primary antenna, and it works perfectly fine. It's a full spectrum antenna with the rabbit ears being able to extend up to 8 feet to pick up real channel 2.

http://www.reddit.com/r/htpc/ might be a good place to ask as well.

Can't really provide any input on that card, but it's definitely an OEM device, so drivers could be an issue. Most that are available are pulls or remans, so there's a good chance that they are used, and will have no support or warranty. So the decision is if you want to risk the $$ on a used / unsupported part (that very well could work like a champ), or pay a bit more for something that's guaranteed to work.

Personally, I like the HDHomeRun tuners. They are external network devices, and don't require any space in the machine (or even have to be in the same room).

http://www.amazon.com/SiliconDust-HDHomeRun-Definition-Digital-HDHR3-US/dp/B004HO58SO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1380923301&sr=8-1&keywords=hdhomerun

Of course, they are more than $30.

Good news is you have solid "green" local channels that really any outdoor antenna would get. However, although the big 4 news networks are there, there isn't much more at that 60 degree heading.

This is only my suggestion, but it might not be best. I would consider two antennas. You could put one at the 60 degree heading in the attic, but the other one outside pointed to what specific other channels you are looking for.

You can buy a combiner on Amazon for like $14 so you can still have the signals going to the same tv.

This is my only suggestion, as far as a specific antenna, I haven't used it but the Eagle Aspen is inexpensive and gets great reviews

As /u/upofadown said, if you are already getting the VHF low channels, you want to make sure you get that still.

Do you already get all those "green" channels with the rabbit ears?

Right now I use this in the window of the lowest floor of my house. And this on the main level. They both work pretty well when setup outdoors, but i get nothing if they are inside. This is why I want a dedicated antenna outdoors. I don't think I need a particularly strong antenna for the stations I want to get, and I wanted something that won't be too large. This is my TV fool report. I am only really interested in FOX, NBC, CBS, and ABC.

Thank you all for the help. TVfool doesn't recognize my address, but I used the coordinates. Updated report is here: http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3de6a4573dbc94bd
Honestly, the only VHF channel I want to receive is ABC (WPVI-TV channel 6). Is there any way to receive this without a HUGE antenna? I'm not sure I can fit it in my attic, and my wife won't let me put it outside. Is there any chance something like one of these two antennas would work, or are they garbage?
https://www.amazon.com/GE-Antenna-Compact-Enhanced-33692/dp/B00DNJZ58M/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1487039749&sr=8-3&keywords=attic%2Bantenna&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/1byone-Amplified-Mounting-Extremely-Performance/dp/B01KUXVKK0/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1487039749&sr=8-5&keywords=attic+antenna

The changes a year has wrought:

AppleTV

Roku

Western Digital Live

Vizio Co-Star

Many Blu-Ray players

Many Smart TVs.

Most current gen game consoles (PS3, Xbox 360, Wii)

All support Netflix and all support 5.1 sound. It depends on personal preference to define what is best for you.

It will work. Your tv needs an ATSC tuner to decode digital signal. Most TVs have them built into them. If you are unsure find your tv manual online and look. I bet it does. IF NOT, you can buy an ATSC tuner. (http://techcrunch.com/2011/03/16/the-five-best-cord-cutting-devices-plus-one-bonus/) - see #1

Also, We are rowing the same boat. (TWC internet subscriber here, was doing the same thing as you, live in valley village).

I purchased a small multi directional antenna on amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Ultra-Thin-Amplified-Indoor-Antenna/dp/B00DIFIP06/ref=sr_1_1?s=audio-video-accessories&ie=UTF8&qid=1419278527&sr=1-1

We are fortunate to be close to the towers on burbank mountain 80 deg. from you). all major channels come in from that direction. You could go with a directional antenna if you have clear line of sight in that direction. but you will want to consider your situation (building materials, what floor apt. you are on etc.). I am on the first floor on west side of the building and it is made out of metal so the directional wouldnt work for me.

Good luck!

Do you have the ability to put up an antenna? I have this one hooked up in my back yard on the pole where my old directv dish was. I reused the same coax since it was going directly to my living room and now I have 26 glorious and free HDTV channels. I supplement this with streaming netflix & Amazon Instant to my PS3 via there respective apps. Anything else that I want to see comes via bittorrent then wirelessly to my TV (DNLA compatable) from my laptop via PS3Mediaserver. I know you have xbox & not PS3 but I'm sure there are some similar solutions for your console.

I can watch latest NBC episodes after the day it airs at https://www.nbc.com/ via browser, scroll down to "Latest Episodes". It plays without a login.

You should get a 30 day free trial for Hulu and check if it works for you. I use the $6/month with ADs (but I paid $12 for whole year at Black Friday 2018 which was limited time special, so it like $1/month for me). Usually Hulu has most of NBC shows next day after it airs, like "This Is Us" shows today, it will be available after midnight or server update at night at Hulu app.

Lastly, going offtopic, how is OTA reception in your area? You can get a streaming OTA DVR, like grab a basic $20 OTA DVR and record shows and watch later. https://www.walmart.com/ip/AT103B-Digital-Converter-Box-with-LED-Display-Recorder-Refurbished/285612138 (It requires additional hard drive not included)

I bought a refurbished AirTV from Amazon for like $65 - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QDV78NK , new - https://www.amazon.com/AirTV-Dual-Tuner-Channel-Streamer-Devices/dp/B07BCGXZZ2 . What it does is I can record shows on it and watch it wirelessly on my phone, tablet at home or even outside home using internet (it uses my box as server to stream me video)

Amazon Recast is very popular these days - https://www.amazon.com/Fire-TV-Recast-over-the-air-DVR-500GB-75-hours/dp/B01J6A6H74 but it is quite expensive for me, try it out at Bestbuy or something, or look for Tivo/Tablo OTA streaming boxes.

There is also HDHomeRun Connect, which broadcasts your live TV over Plex which some people like a lot.

I am a fan of the AMD E-350 since that's what I have and it is powerful enough to drive 1080p videos without problem.

Here are a few options:


$279 Zotac Mini PC

• No OS
  
  
• 320GB HDD
  
  
• 2GB DDR3
  
  
• Included case and power supply
  
  
• Remote included
  
  
  $230 Zotac Barebones, Needs Ram, 2.5" drive, OS
  
  
• No OS
  
  
• No HDD
  
  
• No Ram
  
  
• Included case and power supply
  
  
• No remote/keyboard/mouse
  
  
  [$282 Custom PC]
  
  
• $99 Windows 7 OEM Home Premium (Locks to motherboard)
  
  
• $94 ASRock E-350 Motherboard
  
  
• Your choice of HDD (depends on your application how large or small you will need)
  
  
• $23 4GB Gskill DDR3
  
  
• $45 Foxconn case with power supply
  
  
• $20 Rii Mini Wireless keyboard
  
  
  If you don't need Windows, that frees up a good chunk of money for a big HDD.

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Thanks for the reply! I think I can get by with mounting something to the eave and it would be great if I could get both bands in one *modest* antenna. Do you think something like either of the following would yield decent results?

https://www.amazon.com/Element-Bowtie-Indoor-Outdoor-Antenna/dp/B00C4XVOOC/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1550821519&sr=1-3&keywords=bowtie+antenna+hdtv

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SVNKT86/ref=emc_b_5_i

https://www.amazon.com/ClearStream-Indoor-Outdoor-HDTV-Antenna/dp/B002E1UNWS

At 60 miles, you want as powerful as you can possibly get, even with water and flat land, because you're also dealing with the curvature of the Earth at that point.

My father lives in a very hilly area, nearly 50 miles from his nearest broadcast towers. He picks up the entire market at around 70-80% signal strength with this:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BSGCSA/

If you have the ability to mount something that big (I put up my father's with minimal help from him), you should.

I have this box for doing exactly what you described. I would suggest putting custom skins on it which makes it much more visually appealing for organizing all of your media. I havent found any file it cant play. Doesnt have a ton of features but if you just want all the files to play and be able to scroll through your files it works great. If you have any questions let me know.

If you're using Windows for your HTPC, Windows Media Center functions very well as a DVR off an antenna, you'd just need a tuner to be able to get the antenna signal into the pc. What I use, and what a lot of people are fans of is the HD HomeRun, a network connected tuner.


As for your second question, Antennaweb.org is your best friend.

this is ABSOLUTELY the best way to go. I've listed my cable modem and router below. The router is pretty heavy duty, you could absolutely get a cheaper Wireless-N Router without sacraficing much, or any, quality. Just understand that you need to router because the cable modem is JUST a modem.

• ARRIS / Motorola SB6121 SURFboard DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem - $55 refurb
  
• ASUS RT-N66U Dual-Band Wireless-N900 Gigabit Router - $125 refurb

This is what I got,

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DIFIP06/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

ABC and NBC are perfect, Fox is pretty fuzzy and CBS is just in the wrong direction for me to pick it up.

Look over there on the right at the starter guide link that will take you to the site where you can find out what kind of antenna you'll need. It all just depends on how far away you live from the source. Good luck

Hello neighbor, I too live in the shadow of communication hill. I had to put up an external antenna with a preamplifier to get all of the broadcast channels, but it can be done. Fortunately I live in an HOA that all of the CC&R's were invalidated years ago, except the one about paying for our neighborhood pools, so I can have an external antenna. I have seen a lot of people in our neighborhood with the the "ClearStream" type antenna. I haven't taken the opportunity to ask how their reception is. I highly recommend getting a preamp for the antenna you have and trying your luck again. When my preamp was inline, but not powered up, I could only get the channels on the top of your TVFool report, but once I powered up the pre-amp I was able to get KTVU, KRON, KPIX, KGO-TV, KQED. All of which come from Sutro tower in San Francisco. PM me if you want to chat privately about the details.

You, Sir/Ma'am, are my hero! I used a GE 33692 Attic Mount and after failing to get ABC pointing at 198° I switched to 23° and get all of the main networks as well as some random others that are just bonus. Thanks!

> I was wondering if I could put an antenna in my attic or on the roof and connect it in a way the signal would be going to the three coax ports behind the three Tvs in my house.

Yes, but it depends where the coax outlets are ran from. If they come from the attic, you wouldn't have to do much aside from connect your antenna to them. But if they come from the basement, you would need to re-run the coax cables from your attic. You would also need to use a splitter to convert 1 coax from the antenna into 3+ for your rooms.

> Also what are the pros and cons of attic vs roof mounted antennas.

An antenna on the roof will have better reception, but that may not be necessary depending on how far away you are from the broadcasting stations. You can use TVfool to generate a report and try to figure out what kind of antenna you need based on 1) how far away the stations are, and 2) what kind of signal they use. If you get a large antenna, mounting on the roof may be overkill. But if the signals are weak, you may have to mount on the roof.

I have a 14' Winegard antenna like this one in my attic and I get great reception ~45 miles away from the broadcasting stations. I didn't want to mount it on my roof because it wouldn't have looked great, wasn't necessary, and would have been more work than putting it in my attic.

> *EDIT: Than an Ooma VoIP with a wireless adapter at $120 package on Amazon (sweet, sweet Prime pricing)

You can certainly do better than that.

> as for the stations over 100 miles away......forget them

Thanks for the insight. I actually ended up getting an 8-bay multidirectional and even just it laying down in my living room, I'm picking up stations from 100+ miles away. So that's pretty cool.

Can confirm that the ClearStream 4 is as good as it gets for an indoor antenna. But, you might want a pre-amp also. Here's what you need:

https://smile.amazon.com/ClearStream-Indoor-Outdoor-HDTV-Antenna/dp/B001BRXW74?sa-no-redirect=1

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B003P92D9Y/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The amp helps you pick up a few extra channels, as it does for me in a rural area. You can get some coax and jack into your existing cable system if you want to, or re-wire as you see fit.

pretty much any old set of rabbit ears from the local junk shop will get you most of the channels you're looking for. You're really close to a lot of channels, so they will come in with a paper clip stuck in the back of the TV.

For NBC however, you're 70 miles away and listed as wht they call "2edge" which means get the best antenna you can and put it on the longest stick you can.

Consider something like this

I use this thing:

http://www.amazon.com/FAVI-Entertainment-Wireless-Keyboard-TouchPad/dp/B003UE52ME/ref=zg_bs_12879431_2

The battery life is great, it is backlight, has tons of keys, the trackpad works and it is well built. But the receptions BLOWS. I am 8 feet from the receive with a clear LOS and it works 50/50.

You should be looking at the Arris/Motorola SB series.

SB6121 supports up to 172Mbps down 131Mbps up.
SB6141 steps up to 343Mbps max down.

Both are compatible with Comcast.

My recommended router is the Asus RT-N66U because it's pretty much the best bang for the buck router out there. It was a steal at $199 and with the AC routers pushing the price point down, this is the one you want at $120.

I've bought at least 5 different antennas. I can say for me, the Amazon Basics 50 mile range antenna was by far the best. Better than the Mohu Leaf, and several others. That's my 2 cents.

http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Ultra-Thin-Amplified-Indoor-Antenna/dp/B00DIFIP06

You're right about that. The Roku plays h.264 natively; DivX-encoded AVI requires Plex or XBMC to transcode.

This looks like your best option (and it's on sale right now):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005KOZNBW?qid=1343016979&sr=1-1

> I just didn't want those crazy massive silver looking alien and antennas.

Well those silver alien antennas. Are the NORMAL average TV antenna that has been around for decades. Proven tech, and it works.

The newer flat antennas are new designs, and they have their time and place. In a metro environment where the TV signals are practically baking you.

At 50 miles, even amp'd you are pushing your limits.

The first rule of RF, anything RF. If you want it pretty, forget it!

> So my set up is a bit more complex and im still not done. I don't have a clue on how to ground it or anything or what to put where.

http://otadtv.com/installation/index.html#ground

>And I need my antenna to run to every coax cable in the house.

Do you have home runs to each antenna from some place?

You need something like:
https://www.amazon.com/Channel-Master-Distribution-Amplifier-Antenna/dp/B001PI09SE/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1505307172&sr=1-3&keywords=distribution+amp

https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Amplifier-Internet-Signal-Booster/dp/B001EKCGT8/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1505307172&sr=1-5&keywords=distribution+amp

The thing is that you have an ACTIVE ANTENNA which needs power.

Antenna ---- cable--- lighting arrestor --- ground block --- power inserter for amp --- dist amp --- TV's


>Im not sure how u did everything in under an hour

Simple.. EXISTING DBS wiring was reused. Unbox antenna, snap elements into place, go to roof, loosen bolts on dish, pull up, throw off roof. Put in 6ft extension pipe in J mount, drill hole through J mount and pole, tighten. Put antenna on pole, aim, tighten, connect cable. Do scan on TV..Check! Tighten everything up good and tight. Tidy up cables with zip ties.. DONE! 55 channels, gross. That's everything of value and the cruft, minus a few LP/CD stations that are very low power and outside the beamwidth, plus one semi distant sort of next market/same market.

The thing is I've been doing RF work of some sort for DECADES. Antennas, cable, etc. is MY LIFE.

I set a relative up with two Google Voice lines on an Obihai 200. The cost to make the switch is:

• Obi200 = $50 (one time fee)
  
• T-mobile phone port = $10 (one time fee)
  
• Google Voice port = $20 (one time fee)
  
• Anveo e911 service = $15/year
  
  If you do this, you can configure the Google Voice number to ring on the ObiHai 200 device and mobile line. In other words, anyone can call the original landline number and it will ring the home phone and mobile phone.
  
  Before you do this, you need to make sure you meet the following requirements.
  
  

1. Verify that the landline number can be transferred to Google Voice. Go to this page and enter the landline number. If you get this message "Ooops! This number appears to be from an area we don't currently support," then there is no way to port the landline number to Google Voice. However, if you get this message "Ooops! We currently don't support porting from your carrier ..." then you can port the landline to Google Voice (by way of T-mobile).
   
   
2. You must have a reliable Internet connection. I don't know if there is a required minimum speed, but I've used the GV/Obi200 device on plans as low as 5Mbs down/1 Mbps up.
   
   If you meet those requirements, then you need to buy the Obi200 and a T-mobile pre-paid sim card (don't get a post paid sim card). Once you have them both, then you will need to port the landline number over to the T-mobile sim card (you might need a T-mobile compatible phone to do this). Once you've done that, you can go into GV and port the number from T-mobile over to GV (use grandma's google account; if she doesn't have one, then open one). Then you just need to setup the Obi200 including setting up Anveo e911 service. Viola! You have reduced the monthly bill from $50 to a little over a $1. Congratulations.

This:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DNJZ58M?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00

But mounted outside a window, not in an attic. It says it's not for outdoor use, but it has been fine. I'm within 10 miles of the transmitter but indoor antennas give wildly inconsistent results. It has been fantastic for everything but channel 8, which I need to turn it about 30 degrees for, but then everything else goes out.
Zip code 97232.

This all goes back to a HTPC running PVR software. I have this antenna on a HD Homerun and another wall-mount antenna for channel 8 that goes to its own Hauppauge 950Q USB tuner. The software then seamlessly combines the tuners in its EPG.

I would skip the phone service and go with a VOIP solution. You can get an ObiHai 200 and port the number to Google Voice or Anveo and spend less than $5 a month including 911 access. https://www.amazon.com/OBi200-1-Port-Adapter-Support-Service/dp/B00BUV7C9A

You want to get the e911 from Anveo and use Google Voice for calling. That combo gives you unlimited calling and multiple 911 calls per year. I have this setup right now with a Panasonic wireless telephone set in all the rooms of my house and it works great.

My personal favorite is the Xtreme Signal HDB8X-NI 8-Bay VHF/UHF HDTV Bowtie Antenna

I tried several indoor antennas and a couple of outdoor antenna's. I found the most success and channels with this one. For me I needed a bi-directional antenna.

No, bowtie antennas are only designed to pick up UHF.

You need long elements to pick up VHF.

There are some smaller VHF antennas with small elements, like the Winegard Freevison, but at 30+ miles out, reception will likely not be good.

Examples of good VHF antennas:

• Channel Master 3016, 3018, or 3020
  
  
• Winegard 7694p, 7696p, 7698p, or HD8220U
  
  Like I tell other people who live in apartments, if your apartment owner/management allows tenants to install DirecTV or Dish Network or Shaw(?) small satellite dishes on the rooftop, see if you can hire a local satellite installer to install a regular TV antenna on the roof for you.

I live in a brick house and have tried these 3 antennas with varying results
http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Ultra-Thin-Amplified-Indoor-Antenna/dp/B00DIFIP06/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1425590560&sr=8-2&keywords=amazon+basic+antenna

http://www.amazon.com/TERK-Amplified-Indoor-HDTV-Antenna/dp/B0007MXZB2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1425590646&sr=8-1&keywords=terk+antenna

http://www.amazon.com/RCA-Indoor-FM-HDTV-Antenna/dp/B000HKGK8Y/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1425590674&sr=8-2&keywords=RCA+antenna

I found that the cheap $10 RCA rabbit ears worked just as well as the more expensive ones. All 3 had difficulty bringing in a consistent broadcast of NBC but that probably has to do with where I'm located. If you don't mind the eye sore aesthetics I'd go with the RCA and then work your way up price wise if it doesn't bring in the channels you want. The TERK is an eye sore as well and has balance issues. The feet at the bottom aren't wide enough to balance the thick dipole antennas. And the amazon basics 50 mile high gain model didn't perform any better for the price difference in my circumstances.

Ok, thanks. It looks like you need an antenna with a range of at least 85 miles for Oklahoma City, Wichita, and Tulsa. They're in three substantially different directions. I would consider a 360 degree motorized rooftop antenna for that. Maybe something like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Amplified-Digital-Motorized-Rotation-Infrared/dp/B004NQMCDK

If I was in your shoes that's what I would get because it should easily pick up a signal from around 80-85 miles away. If you're okay just pointing towards one city maybe something like this

https://www.amazon.com/Channel-Master-CM-3020-Range-Antenna/dp/B000BSGCSA

but the directional one is only $35 versus $120 for the directional one.

Thanks for your help guys I'm thinking I need a roof mounted antenna and need to get the DC channels. I see that these are recommended with in the antenna guide Xtreme Signal HDB8X-NI 8-Bay VHF/UHF HDTV Channel Master CM-4228HD High VHF, UHF and HDTV Antenna will one of these work?

here is the tvfool info:

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3db97d7c3e147d36



As for the TV Tuner, it looks like this is the winner, but can somebody explain what a TV Tuner does like I am a 5-year-old so I can wrap my head around it?: http://www.amazon.com/Hauppauge-Digital-Tuners-Capture-1578/dp/B00XF7Z5DM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1449464972&sr=8-1&keywords=xbox+one+tv+tuner#customerReviews

That's great. Thank you! Instead of buying the antenna and VHF retrofit kit, would this work:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00SVNKT86/ref=psdcmw_172665_t3_B00LHFRCMG

It appears to already have the VHF built in.

Any recommendations on the attic antenna? Pricing is all over the board (anywhere from $40 - $140). Any main features I need to look for?

Here are a couple of the best reviewed ones on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Antennas-Direct-ClearStream4-HDTV-Antenna/dp/B001BRXW74/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1371643822&sr=8-1&keywords=attic+antenna

http://www.amazon.com/RCA-ANT751R-Outdoor-Optimized-Reception/dp/B0024R4B5C/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1371643822&sr=8-4&keywords=attic+antenna

Couple of things I might might suggest - First, I am not sure where you live; however, you should look into buying an antenna for OTA channels. With any luck you'll get fox, cbs, NBC and quite possibly ABC; an added benefit is that you should get your in market football games during the season on Fox. I own this antenna, and found my available channels by checking out TV Fool; just put in your address and it'll do the rest. I pick up about 35 channels over the air, some are just plain awful but there are some good ones in the batch too; for the most part the quality exceeds that of my prior DirecTV picture. NOTE: I live about 30 miles from Center City Philadelphia so that helps with the number of available channels. Also, similar to conturax I reused the existing cable in my house to get OTA to all rooms. Rather than just a single coax DTV hooked up a 6 way splitter outside; I just removed the line from their dish and ran from my own antenna, instantly all rooms in the house received the OTA channels.

For sports I have an mlb.tv subscription since Comcast has a stranglehold on Phillies broadcasts (I get about every 10th game OTA; but generally they are on the Comcast sports Network (obviously only available if you pay for their cable service)). I don't really care about basketball or Hockey (sorry Canada :) )

Another item you mention not getting ESPN on the 360; w/o a cable subscription. I don't have cable but I do have access to ESPN on the 360 -- turns out they also have deals with several internet providers. My provider (windstream) has a deal which allows me to access this service. It would be worth looking into at the very least.

For movies/tv shows we have Hulu+ and Netflix Streaming (which we access through 360/PS3). Once every couple of months I'll activate dvd's by mail from netflix rip them the day they arrive and send back the next day. Over the course of a month I can usually get 6-8 movies which is more than enough to keep us occupied for a few more months. You could also opt to use redbox if you aren't renting enough to justify the $8/mo charge.

EDIT: I just realized conturax already listed the same antenna I mentioned. For the price it cannot be beat.

EDIT 2: I also forgot to mention that even w/ an MLB.tv subscription you are still subject to blackout restrictions if you are looking at watching your in market team. For me this was a deal breaker; however, using Amazon web servers I was able to setup a squid proxy and route all my traffic through them to avoid the restriction (not for the faint of heart).

Also, I'm not sure if I should get the HDHomerun that I listed above or this one. One of the Android boxes will be connected to the network through wifi unless I buy ethernet powerline adapters like this, but I don't know if the outlet in that room is on the same breaker (I rent an apartment) and I've heard that these don't work very well if you plug them into outlets on different breakers. Anyway, my concern is that this cheaper one has better reviews, but says that it can only share SD content through wifi.

this one is probably one of the best consumer models. you will need a rotator for it as well.


https://www.amazon.com/Winegard-HD8200U-Platinum-Ultra-HD-High-VHF/dp/B001DFS4BI/

Do some research on the Obihai for VOIP calling. All you need is a Google Vouce account and 50$ for the Obihai box. It's not hard to setup and it's free after the price of the hardware.

OBi200 1-Port VoIP Phone Adapter with Google Voice and Fax Support for Home and SOHO Phone Service https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BUV7C9A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_YQaeBbD6WXWXY

I splurged and got this guy.

Expensive, but if you can swing it, the range & performance are fantastic.

AntennaCraft 30dB High Gain TV/FM Mast-Mounted Amplifier. With around a 40' run down to the house. Where the AntennaCraft feeds straight into a 4 Port Cable Signal Booster. Going over the old RJ59(?) craptastic job through the rest of the house to the TV.

No matter what direction it is pointed it picks up the local stations. I'm trying to get Chicago stations so my wife can get Bears/Cubs.

I ended up buying a 50' Roll from Walmart just to make sure the amplifier was working because running it in got nothing. The house was wired with 2 dishes and the antenna after the house was built so it was a bit haphazard.

I've been using an Asus router that has been working great. You can get one on amazon for $120.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B006QB1RPY/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1421791773&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SY200_QL40&dpPl=1&dpID=41aq0FV8aqL&ref=plSrch

Thanks everyone for their suggestions! Is there a huge different between the CM-2018 and this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BSGCSA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_OtvuDb51CQK7D ? I was looking at this one before I saw the post above, but this is one double the price. Worth it? Or the 2018 enough?

I am a fan of This Antenna.

It would work great for this by removing the reflector as suggested by Zippy. Aim it at channel 49 or 19 and you should get just about everything.

At $12.99, you could also buy two of them and use a splitter and aim them 180 degrees apart. You don't need much gain, so the loss from the splitter shouldn't be a big deal.

[This is what I got](Amazon Fire TV | Streaming Media Player https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00U3FPN4U/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_g4ZSybNNV72PJ)

I guess I can live with the layout but the Amazon video not being with the apps at the top annoys me haha. Any clue if there is a way to move that? Having to scroll down is just not ideal lol.

Edit: also plan on sideloading kodi. Does it run pretty smooth on there for you?

• Antenna: ClearStream V2
  
  
• Amplifier: RadioShack Generic Amplifier
  
  
• Antenna feed runs through our preinstalled wiring from ATT U-verse without any changes
  
  
• I build my parents a custom built HTPC/server upstairs in the master bedroom, downstairs has a pretty cheap Refurbished HP Slimline Desktop that also runs as a secondary server for video games if necessary.
  
  
• All computers run Windows Media Center (Win7 Professional) + Airfoil for my parents iPads
  
  
• Tuner is a SiliconDust HDHomeRun Network Tuner. This pumps the signal to the HTPCs. It runs via ethernet which the upstairs runs along the baseboard, and gets to downstairs via TrendNet Powerline AV Adapters at 200mbps.
  
  
• The upstairs "server" has several hard drives which Windows Media Center saves to. The downstairs computer has the Recorded TV folder on one of the drives mapped as a network share, essentially creating the Uverse-esque "whole home DVR"
  
  
• My room just has an additional video out from my PC running over a 25 foot HDMI cable to my TV.
  
  
• Any other TVs that don't need DVR functionality just have a straight antenna feed through the preinstalled wiring
  
  
• For wireless laptops, we use Ubiquiti Unifi access points that can keep up with the HDHomeRun's large network requirements.
  
  
• Master bedroom, main TV, and workout room all have Roku 2 XD's attached to them.
  
  
• Any remaining TVs / the occasional projector we bring out, we will connect to a Nintendo Wii that we have lying around for Netflix.

I'd do separate modem and router...that way if one fails the other doesn't (and usually when they're separate they do their one function better.)

The SB6141 is the recommended modem these days. I personally have a CM820 provided by my cable company (included with my internet) and it seems to be reliable as well.

Asus has been making some good routers lately, though I personally use a Netgear R6100 and it works good as well.

I was using a cheap store bought splitter but I'm using this one currently.

My concern at the time was that I was going to feed four TV's (bedroom/family room/living room/lanai. I bought it in case I needed it. We remodeled (mostly DIY) most of the house and I now only have TV's in the family room and living room. Smaller one is for the kids Wii. I still have cable outlets in those areas as I kept them and ran new lines since I ran cat6 through the house as well. I'm not quite sure if I would need it for four TV's or not as I'm perfectly happy with two in the main areas.

The AmazonBasics antenna won't work well on VHF. Your local NBC station is on VHF...

I've had good luck using the HDHomerun network tuner.

Im confused on what splitter i need, I'm looking to buy the best for great signal with no problems.

You said i need one like this:

GE 23218 2-Way Signal Splitter (Discontinued by Manufacturer) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00027YZRU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_VvqUzb57D2H5B

But someone else mentioned i need this one? Keep in mind i have internet and not sure if it matters when messing with all these cables Does this splitter come amplifier build in? Im running long coax cables to my television so i wish to add an amplifier somewhere in this installation if i can.

4 Port Cable TV/HDTV/Digital Amplifier Internet Modem Signal Booster Internet AMP https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001EKCGT8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_gzqUzbQHDJFKK


Sorry for all the questions. Im a new jack

Bright House Networks started requiring a cable box (or cable card) for everyone. I was using Windows Media Center to DVR shows, but my TV card doesn't take cable cards. So rather than get a new TV card and hope I can get everything working, I just cancelled and connected my DVR to an antennae.

I live way out in the suburbs so I don't get all my local channels but we have Netflix and Amazon Prime, we watch some shows on the network websites, and we added Sling TV, so we have more than enough to watch.

I bought an OBi200 VoIP Phone Adapter. I got a phone plan with Phone Power for $59.99/year. Ported my number to Phone Power for a $15 fee. Quite happy.

Get a free Google Voice number, slap it on one of these for $50, and you've got a home phone.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CXQO00K/

I had signals coming from Northeast and Southwest. So instead of getting two antenna's I went with that one where I could aim it at both directions. Works great.

I am in a similar issue. Stations are in two opposite directions and both are behind a hill. I used a bow-tie style antenna and an amplifier. This went from unwatchable to perfect reception. It could be mounted in an attic or mounted outside if the reception is spotty.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C4XVOOC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000WDR94U/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

not recommended for lower floor nyc apartment dwellers.
only higher altitude and fewer obstructions will help you,
not this over hyped flat which works just like any other
$20 single bay bow tie antenna. http://www.amazon.com//dp/B000GIT002/

Honestly the Amazon Essentials Performance Antenna should be able to work fine. Unless you are going an ultra budget route it's a great bet. It's non directional so it should pick up all channels within range and is no nonsense. It comes with two command strips for mounting on the wall. I thought I'd only get about 4 or 5 channels based on what TVFool told me and I ended up with 15.

If you can get your monitor hooked-up to your PC, you could get any number of gadgets to receive ATSC digital TV. My favorite at the moment is the HDHomeRun network tuner.

But since it doesn't sound like an option or what you really want to do, here is the product for you: Kworld HDmi Dvi VGA Qam/atsc External Digital Tv Tuner Box Hdtv (links to various ebay listings)

While the latest WD TV Live (WD TV Live Streaming, Released 2011) is less than $100 it doesn't have Composite inputs.

The one before the latest (WD TV Live Hub, Released 2010) does have component and composite inputs but currently costs more than $150 on amazon.

Edit: The latest one does have a composite input.

I did the HDHomerun:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004HO58SO/ref=oh_o02_s00_i01_details
and: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HKGK8Y/ref=oh_o02_s00_i00_details

Works flawless!

I use Google Voice connected to an OBI box ( https://www.amazon.com/OBi200-VoIP-Phone-Adapter-T-38/dp/B00BUV7C9A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485550994&sr=8-1&keywords=Obi200 ). Totally free phone service.

Almost any outdoor antenna should pull in all the major stations since you're fairly close. Some Baltimore stations shouldn't be too bad either but they're 30 miles away. Looks like the DC NBC station is missing from the report for some reason.

Attic antenna might work equally as well.

Some options:

https://www.channelmaster.com/Digital_HDTV_Outdoor_TV_Antenna_p/cm-4221hd.htm

https://www.amazon.com/GE-33692-Attic-Mount-Antenna/dp/B00DNJZ58M

https://www.amazon.com/RCA-Compact-Outdoor-Antenna-Range/dp/B0024R4B5C

https://www.amazon.com/Antennas-Direct-ClearStream-Multi-Directional-Included/dp/B01LXGC87U

This clearstream 4, comes with a VHF antannea on it, anyone know how good that would be? or should I just get the separate one?

Get a powered amplifier, it will help strengthen the signal into it.

Also keep in mind, every split you will loose about 50% signal. A powered splitter would be a great investment IMO.

I have mine split into 4 HD Homerun Extends with no lose of signal using a ChannelMaster Splitter.

Have you considered some under the counter tvs? These were popular in the kitchen before the age of tablets.

Speaking of which, if you already have a tablet with a wifi setup, may I suggest HDHomeRun. By connecting this device to an antenna and your home router, you can stream OTA channels to your PCs and mobile devices.

If you don't need the DVR functionality and just want to stream live tv then the HDHomerun Quatro will work for you by itself. For DVR HDHomerun has a DVR service that requires an annual subscription and a NAS device for storage. I don't recommend that.

My setup uses a quatro as the tuner and a home-built PLEX server as the DVR.


If you want an easier setup I have read about a few products Tablo, AirTV, Amazon Fire TV Recast that need a USB harddrive added for DVR function to work. One of these may be the closest you get to a plug n play answer.

U want to use a pre amp right out of the antenna then in that closet u want to use an amplified splitter

Winegard LNA-200 Boost XT HDTV Preamplifier, TV Antenna Amplifier Signal Booster, HD Digital VHF UHF Amplifier https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DQN3R9O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_aIOUCb8Y0P3Z7

Channel Master CM3414 4-Port Distribution Amplifier for Cable and Antenna Signal https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001PI09SE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_5IOUCbA1M57E5

I just installed this antenna in the attic last weekend. Right now, I'm watching the Cowboys Giants game and the picture looks great!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DNJZ58M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I've tried the flat panels but had trouble getting it facing the signal. This one comes with mounting hardware that makes it easy to adjust.

Show them this:

https://www.amazon.com/Element-Bowtie-Indoor-Outdoor-Antenna/dp/B00C4XVOOC
http://www.dennysantennaservice.com/1475651.html
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-power-hog-20140617-story.html

Also, add up the cost savings over two years. That should be an eye opener.

As for the the PlayStation Vue, that seems awfully expensive. What channels do they really use? Maybe SlingTV with an AppleTV would work out better. Power wise, the 4th generation AppleTV will only use ~2.4W. It should use less than any other option, except the third generation AppleTV, which unfortunately does not support SlingTV at this time.

The GE Attic Mount Antenna. And it's really not that high-powered of an amp in it's lower gain mode. I just knew I needed something decent as the Leaf+Amp I'm using now isn't cutting it, and I liked the idea of the filers to cut out some of the extra noise.

I just had this delivered. Put together and installed in the attic in about 2 hours, combining with fishing the coax from the old dish up into the attic. Picks up every channel in my area, and I'm on the fringe of metro ATL with a ton of tall trees and hills to block/mangle signal. I was even able to split it and still get everything. Well worth the cost.

That being said, if you're just fueling one TV, start with rabbit ears from walmart for a few bucks. If it works, it works.

Would you suggest something like this one?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00CXQO00K/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1453900165&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=hdb8x-ni&dpPl=1&dpID=51QyT-kcfKL&ref=plSrch

That way each panel can be pointed in a different direction.

Keeping in mind of course that you need to have a PC or tablet attached to your TV if you intend to watch those online sources....

Also, I found TV Fool to be really helpful in determining the availability tv stations that can be captured using an antenna in a specific location. If you live in or extremely close to a major city, basic rabbit ears might do the trick. In my situation, even a decent attic antenna isn't truly cutting it.

I use the FAVI Entertainment Wireless Keyboard.

It's not exactly a streaming device, but an xbox one will run all those apps plus the antennae. You just have to get one of these USB adapters (https://www.amazon.com/Hauppauge-Digital-Tuners-Capture-1578/dp/B00XF7Z5DM)

The xbox will even create a grid style tv guide and let you pause/rewind/fast forward the live TV for up to 30 minutes.

I got the best signal once I put a booster on my antenna. Mine is in my attic, and there I got ~30 channels, but once I added a digital amplifier, I got closer to 45 channels, and many that were marginal got much clearer.

I've had all 3 and I prefer the Lenovo. The K400 is too big to be called a remote. The dinovo mini's track pad annoyed me because it's too easy to hit down when you mean right, etc. I currently use the Lenovo to control my Family Room HTPC and I keep the other 2 in a drawer.

Edit: I forgot I also had this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003UE52ME/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1 While it was OK, the build quality was pretty awful (cracked plastic, etc.) and the range wasn't great (blocked by furniture from 20 feet away).

something like this?

link.

Thank you for the response! It caused me to go back and confirm that yes, it is pre-amped with a built-in. I tend to forget that.
I agree. I read up on this today and it seems my splitting situation is drastically reducing the signal downline. To address this, I purchased this today: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B001PI09SE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I'm thinking I will ditch the 2 splitters I showed you and install this off the power supply to the pre-amplifier. I will then split this signal 3 ways (leaving one port unused) to our 3 TVs we are primarily using.
This will basically leave me with the following setup: Signal --> Pre-Amplifier --> Distribution Amplifier --> 3 TVs

This this is the correct approach? Somebody else advised I setup 2 antennas on the roof, with one dedicated to VHF-Hi. I would rather not have to deal with obtaining and setting up an appropriately sized ladder again since it was a pain in the ass getting it 25ft up there in the first place.

https://www.amazon.com/ClearStream-Indoor-Outdoor-HDTV-Antenna/dp/B001BRXW74

I've had that antenna for years and it's been solid. I have it pointed to towers 30+ miles in one direction and it also picks up towers in the opposite direction 35+ miles away. It's mounted atop a 10' pole on top of my ranch home which isn't on a hill or anything.

It can be found for cheaper than on amazon.com too.

I've got a WD TV Live(Get that one because for some reason the latest one does not get netflix) and it beats out the Roku in my opinion because it can play any external storage, and it can find computers with Plex installed on the network.

If you want to get REALLY fancy in the future, buy a HDHomeRun Connect: https://www.amazon.com/SiliconDust-HDHomeRun-CONNECT-broadcast-2-Tuner/dp/B00GY0UB54

Hook your antenna up to it somewhere out of sight and use Channels on your AppleTV to watch Live television: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/channels-live-tv-anywhere/id1117689474?mt=8

There's an AppleTV version and it works EXTRMELY well.

This indoor/outdoor antenna works really well. With my old Terk, I only received one digital station. Now, even with this antenna mounted indoors, I receive about 10.

If you can wait a month, this + a fire tv stick looks promising. It doesn't specifically mention Canadian channels, but Canada and the US both use ATSC so it ought to work fine.

I just got the Vizio 4K E-series as well. I have the OTA tuner that works with the Xbox One, and I watch OTA through the Xbox. It works very well, but you do need the Xbox One for it to work.
https://www.amazon.com/Hauppauge-Digital-Tuners-Capture-1578/dp/B00XF7Z5DM/

Plex is running on Windows 7. I don't have this issue with my Roku. It is updated. They are connected via a wired connection and I am selecting Media Shares > Plex for my source.

Let me give some SD a try, I will report back.

edit: the model

edit 2: So it doesn't happen on SD content. It happened after a minute with HD content (a roughly 1.3GB file TV show).

Well, I bought one of these, put it atop a 12' mast, and it seems to be working out.

I would like install an attic antenna that would capture as many of my available channels as possible.

I have this antenna outside, but the reception is really poor overall.

Suggestions are appreciated!

I picked up the WDTV Live about 2.5 years ago and it's worked flawlessly. It plays every file I've thrown at it so far which is exactly why I bought it. It also has a ton of 'apps' but I've never tried using any of them so I can't comment on that. I don't think the WDTV Live is well-received around here for some reason though.

I've tried the Clearstream 4, Clearstream 2v, and the Extreme signal HDB8x Xtreme Signal HDB8X-NI 8-Bay VHF/UHF HDTV Bowtie Antenna https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CXQO00K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_PzcPzbCWFH3SG

I do not have radiant barrier, but I do have a bunch of large red cedar trees around my house. Yesterday the little leaf type antenna was pulling in NBC perfect. The ones that give me the most trouble are Fox and CBS.

I live in a valley and there are a lot of hill/mountains between me and the towers I would receive OTA signals from. I can pick up most channels with a cheap indoor UHF/VHF antenna.

This antenna http://www.amazon.com/Antennas-Direct-ClearStream4-HDTV-Antenna/dp/B001BRXW74/ref=pd_cp_e_2 appears to only be a a UHF antenna. Would I need a UHF/VHF antenna or will UHF be fine?

This, although to elaborate, you need to obviously have a way to get the TV signal (specifically the channel you want) into the computer. To do that you need a tv tuner of some sort, although you don't necessarily need a card in the computer, you could go with a network based tuner like the SiliconDust HDHomeRun http://www.amazon.com/SiliconDust-HDHomeRun-Definition-Television-HDHR3-US/dp/B004HO58SO/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pdT1_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1X6E0A0LVR6GL&coliid=IZ68PKMJY53RZ
you do need some sort of tuner, which is what TheHater1 was answering you can't do it without a tuner, but you can do it without a card in your PC

I tried all three of the amazon basics indoor antennas: http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Ultra-Thin-Extreme-Performance-Amplified/dp/B00DIFIP06

Those are listed as outdoor antennas. However, Amazon pointed me to this as an attic antenna: https://smile.amazon.com/GE-33692-Attic-Mount-Antenna/dp/B00DNJZ58M

It says it is VHF & UHF. You think that would work?

it's noteable the same service from silicondust/hdhomerun is $3/mo
https://www.silicondust.com/dvr-service/

while it will be $0/mo this Fall when Amazon jumps into this market
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J6A6H74

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006QB1RPY/ref=oh_details_o02_s01_i04?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I just bought this router once I realized how little bandwidth I was able to utilize with my old one. Old one was speedtesting out at about 6 down. This on averages High 30's to low 50's. It's pricey compared to other options but if you are a cordcutter, use some of the money you will be saving for a top quality router.

Many voip services available. I have been with these guys for years. $1 / month to keep the number + usage.

You will need a box similar to this if you want to use standard phone. Otherwise you will need an IP based phone.

http://www.amazon.com/OBi200-VoIP-Phone-Adapter-T-38/dp/B00BUV7C9A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1463515156&sr=8-1&keywords=obi+100