(Part 2) Top products from r/dune

I know it is unpopular around here, but I would recommend reading the Brian Herbert/Kevin Anderson books a read. Borrow em from your library if you are nervous.

Nothing as cerebral as Dune but I am a big fan of John Ringo's stuff. He had a collaboration with David Weber that was good "The Empire of Man" which begins with "March Upcountry".

I also started The Horus Heresy series and am on book 9 and cannot get enough.

There is The Road to Dune which sheds some more light on Frank and the development of the original novel.

There is Dreamer of Dune which is a biography of Frank.

Last but not least, this book is kind of cool: The Science of Dune. It is a collection of essays by scientists and philosophers about different aspects of Dune and their scientific foundation (i.e. could Arrakis exist). Disclosure, the links I provide might be an affiliate link.

Two more gems worth keeping in mind: FH's short story (actually a pilgrimage manual, taking place around Children of Dune) "The Road to Dune" in eye and the famous Dune Encyclopedia. While neither is a full substitute for the mastery of the actual books, they both offer complementing (and in the latter's case, exhaustive) insights into the original Duneiverse that feels authentic and in the spirit of the books. Far superior, IMO, to any fanfic that followed...

I purchased the Barnes and Noble Collection Edition just because it looked so cool. Shown here https://www.amazon.com/Dune-Hardcover-Frank-Herbert/dp/0425266540/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1523983613&sr=8-2&keywords=dune+hardback

I have not read this version so I cannot comment on the amount of Typos but the quality of the book is great and it looks incredible.

It's pretty easy to find. Amazon lists 32 sellers, starting at around $5.

Schild's Ladder. It's a hard science scifi novel with a plot centered on a vacuum metastability event. The premise is what I found fascinating, but the description of life in the future is really cool. - https://www.amazon.com/Schilds-Ladder-Novel-Greg-Egan/dp/1597805440

It's thick. But if you watch a lot of science shows you should be able to get what's going on.

There's only one treatise I know of that is dedicated to them both.

This is the sort of book you should see if you can get on interlibrary loan. Was an interesting read.

What do you think of it? Seems like something I should own.

Fair review on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Dune-Official-Comic-Marvel-Comics/dp/0425076237

You can get a copy for $.01 plus shipping (like $3.99) from Amazon - I checked :)

Yes, people are lazy and can't even be bothered to Google on their own most of the time.

Which reminds me, I should include a link for the book on Amazon

This is the hardcover edition I have:

https://www.amazon.com/Dune-Frank-Herbert/dp/044100590X

It's elegant without being extravagant. Don't spend TOO much money on a book, especially if you're young.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0765357119/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497700203&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=dune+legends



I have also seen it at my local Barnes and Noble.

That's gold! I've heard the movie is amazing, but which book are you talking about? A cursory google search turns up this guy: http://www.amazon.com/Lawrence-Arabia-Deceit-Imperial-Making/dp/0307476413

But somehow that doesn't strike me as the book you mean.

Interesting. Try this one:

Children of Dune https://www.amazon.com/dp/0593098242/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_bHhCDbBCZTWB5

I don’t understand why it’s doing that.

A couple of these images look like the ones in the english, illustrated Dune:
illustrated dune - amazon

Dune Messiah (1969)

The rest of the series is getting a release to match the second design in June, so maybe wait a bit more?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0593098234/ref=tmm_pap_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1554238559&sr=8-1

There's a slightly larger format softcover Illustrated Dune I picked up at a used bookstore a few years back. It's got about a dozen illustrations: http://www.amazon.com/The-Illustrated-Dune-Frank-Herbert/dp/0425038912

I'd say "The Machine Crusade"

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0340960191/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_ZUOQCbHMRJHPV

Chronicles of the Imperium, Pickup your very own damaged copy, only $750!

Very much so and as evidence I'll point to this (unfortunately out of print) collection of essays from Herbert called "Maker of Dune". I have a copy and just flipped through it to write this post.

One essay in there is called "Men on Other Planets" in which he critiques Asimov's Foundation books for several assumptions, though he says everyone in science fiction owes Asimov an enormous debt. His critique is that Asimov promotes this idea of a "scientific aristocracy" which uses B.F. Skinner-style behaviorist psychology to manipulate the future for the greater good, and that these scientists can also deal with uncertainties -- like the chief villain in the Foundation novels, The Mule, who wasn't factored into the Foundation's calculations. But the Foundation defeats The Mule and saves the day in the end. Herbert says the ultimate goal of this ideology is to engineer a "surprise-free future." Herbert says this is the reigning ideology among the scientific establishment all over the world, but he thought this was an anti-scientific viewpoint because it assumes that nothing new will be discovered and that we know it all already.

If you look at Dune, he flipped these assumptions around. The Bene Gesserit are The Foundation, while Paul is The Mule: the unexpected variable that throws a wrench in the "Foundation's" plans. Asimov's antagonist becomes Herbert's protagonist. But this unexpected variable ends up unraveling everything because the "scientists" in this universe thought they knew everything already, but the universe is too chaotic and unpredictable for that, and trying to control everything is what creates these enormous ruptures that strikes a killing blow to the whole project -- even risking human extinction. You also have to remember that Herbert was writing at a time when there were fears of overpopulation and nuclear weapons. Obviously climate change is much more of an immediate problem today.

I can't remember where it is in this book, but I believe there's another part where he talks about flipping assumptions around as his style of science fiction writing.

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Edit: Ah, it's the same essay. It's genius in its simplicity. He says if you want to come up with a bunch of ideas for sci-fi stories, go to the bestseller's list, pick out the top 10 books and analyze their assumptions, then "turn those assumptions over, look at them from every angle you can imagine. Tear them apart. Put them back together. Put your new construction on another planet (or on this planet changed) and place believable human beings into the conflict situations thus created."