(Part 2) Top products from r/fatlogic

Thermodynamics / conservation of energy aka "calories in, calories out" are a bit of an oversimplification. Weight loss is more efficient when we actually think about how hormones work.

I don't want to write a long post, but generally low-carb is more important than low-calories, for reasons like insulin sensitivity. It matters a lot. Also, physical exercise, besides "calories out" can result in human growth hormone increases which is very good at breaking down stored fat. Also, exercise can increase insulin sensitivity (or reduce insulin resistance). For both purposes intense weight lifting or running as sprinting (HIIT) is better than easy, long cardio i.e. ellypitcal machine. Note: playing stuff like basketball or soccer is basically like HIIT except for being fun! Finally, we should note that intermittent fasting not only increases insulin sensitivity, which makes sense, but also increases human growth hormone.

This means the ideal routine looks roughly like this. Literally zero calories from 21 hour to next day about 13 hour. In the meantime, before work in the morning, weight lifting or running (jogging if beginner, sprinting if already have some experience like can jog 3-5KM or 2-3 miles.) No food afterward meaning human growth hormone literally chomps down on stored fat. At 13 hour, lunch. Because of the sky-high insuline sensitivity, it would be a good time to cheat and have a pizza. Actually, do this on the weekend and then have a healthy dinner. But for workdays it is sadly not really practical, we can enjoy evenings more than lunches. So, save on the daily carb budget, and have a low-carb lunch. For example any combination of salad, hard boiled eggs, soured cream, yoghurt, greek yoghurt and smoked mackarel from the local grocery store on the corner, they make an easy and low-carb lunch. This means the insulin sensitivity is still fairly high, due to the low-carb. Finally in the evening eat and drink whatever you want but in moderation wit the carbs. A carby dessert (ice cream) at 21:00, before going to lunch, is acceptable, because studies suggests it fucks with the leptin sensitivity so that it is easier to bear the fasting the next day. Don't drink a lot of alcohol because then you cannot fast the next day, it makes the stomach so acidic.

Source: hundreds of studies quoted in the book: http://www.amazon.com/Man-2-0-Engineering-Alpha-Muscle/dp/006222087X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396878260&sr=8-1&keywords=engineering+the+alpha

This helps more than just a calorie budget.

This is the one I ended up getting, but a friend has this one and loves it. I wish the height was adjustable, but it works fine otherwise.

It did kind of make a little squeaky noise at first, but I sprayed the bars (not sure if they have a name, where the pedals join the body) with cooking spray (and wiped off the excess with paper towels) and it's totally silent now. The resistance can be adjusted pretty far: with pliers (for I am weak, apparently) I can get it so tight I can't push the damn pedals. Took me a while to find a happy medium, but it's a pretty neat little thing. Gives me something to do while watching Westworld and the like other than the nothing I'd been doing.

You should find a therapist that does Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, the gold standard for psychotherapy, especially for BED. You can also start with a good CBT book, such as this one. I have that book, and love it. It is not especially about BED, but the skills it teaches can definitely help with BED. There are other ones especially for BED, like this one, which I don't know anything about.

Either those CBT books, and others, can be used alongside a therapist, and they may have more to recommend.

>As a real woman, she doesn’t have time for that diet or exercise nonsense!

>TBH tho, the ones saying they don’t have the time make me sad. They know diet and exercise works, but they’re so far removed from true healthy habits that they can’t see how little extra effort those habits can take. It’s easy to get big while not eating more than a modern serving per meal, having one snack or fun drink a day, and eating ‘healthy meals’ like a full burrito bowl or a salad with cheese and dressing. It took me way too long to realize that my ‘normal’ habits for diet and exercise were leading to my unfortunately statistically normal weight. I feel for these people who aren’t seeing the little changes they can make and how accessible healthier habits can be. It’s super frustrating, but at the same time it does require some willful ignorance and denial to maintain that ‘stuck’ mindset.

On the topic of small changes:

Slim by Design (Book) talks a lot about small changes one can make to ones everyday life that affect calorie-intake.

>My lifts are with a 40 pound bar, started only able to do 6 reps, now I can do 20. The lifts are from [This Men's Health Book[(http://www.amazon.com/Mens-Health-Hard-Body-Plan/dp/1579542298). Also do 1 hour of cardio each day, and usually a 30 minute walk in the evening.

Your "lifts"? ALL of them are just the 40 lb bar? (I'm not checking out the book)
so you do "weight lifting", 3x a week and somehow you are "maxing out" doing only 40 lb lifts 3 times a week? I guess you did count walking as exercise so that all that logic kind of fits together.

>So it looks like I've been maxing out for 7 months... sounds like I'm doing the weight training right, then. And I'm probably about to slow down.

But you are not doing what a bodybuilder does, and wont get where you've convinced yourself you can by doing a fraction of what hard working bodybuilders do. Hopefully you just failed to mention how much weight you're putting on the bars, 40 lbs is a huge joke, especially if you've been doing the same weight for 7 months, that isn't the same as someone being stuck at 300 on bench.

Well, I guess since you bought a book you know better than anyone!

I read this book a while ago: http://www.amazon.com/The-End-Overeating-Insatiable-American/dp/B004NSVE32

"The End of Overeating" It basically talks about how restaurants and food manufacturers are making foods that completely mess with our brains. They spend a lot of money on the perfect balance of fat, sugar, and salt to create basically a completely insatiable desire to eat and eat and eat. The shit is like crack!

I honestly can't tell if the book is Fatlogic or not, it takes a lot of responsibility out of the hands of the "eaters", but still says flat out that people are overeating. The idea of intuitive eating working in a world where the ones selling food are deliberately trying to get you to overeat seems pretty ridiculous.

Based on the success of her previous book This will probably also be a HUGE hit.

I think you are mistaken on the age of marriage for women. According to Marilyn Yalom (A social anthropologist) it was around 18 for most European women, with the exception of British women, who married older. And the more wealth a woman had, the older she was married, and the more freedom she was given to choose her partner, which was not the case for E European women.

It's generally not fresh-squeezed here: fruit juices are left to basically ferment for months and months in barrels and then "re-flavored" before packaging. The book Squeezed is a fascinating look into the orange juice industry, if you're interested.

Something like this. But if you just search for "scale body fat" you'll get lots of results. Supposedly, the kind like the one I linked are better than just the floor scale type, because they send a current through the whole body since the hands are involved. YMMV.

Yes, she published the FA bible Fat!So? in 1998. It's currently ranked #625,649 in Amazon bestsellers, and she has never updated it.

Not sure how well it would work for your kitties, but my roommate's cat got super chunky last year until my roommate bought one of those feeder tree things that forces the cat to knock food down from inside. Once he had to work for his food he stopped eating so goddamn much all the time.

The Omnivore's Dilemma is another good one about how agriculture/food has changed since WWII.

You should read Robert Lustig's "Fat Chance: Beating the Odds Against Sugar, Processed Food, Obesity, and Disease." He's done a lot of research on obesity and his studies are quite impressively backed up by data. Anyway, how it relates to this "95%" - and if I recall, his figure is lower, yet it is also still quite substantial. So there's some truth here. Too tired dig out the actual number. Maybe later.

Turns out that isn't her first book.

But I find it interesting that this one is priced such that no one who isn't already delusional will buy it.

https://www.amazon.com/FAT-SO-Because-Dont-Apologize/dp/0898159954/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1497615923&sr=1-1&keywords=fatso

I have this 10 pound flat tire around my belly, so I've got 30,000 calories right there. Seems massive enough to me.

My lifts are with a 40 pound bar, started only able to do 6 reps, now I can do 20. The lifts are from [This Men's Health Book[(http://www.amazon.com/Mens-Health-Hard-Body-Plan/dp/1579542298). Also do 1 hour of cardio each day, and usually a 30 minute walk in the evening.

Also just saw a personal trainer last week and he gave me some new things to work on.

I don't have any pics, but trying to get to being able to see my abs -- even when I was 4 I had a beer belly (horrible family beach pics). I tried dropping meat, dairy, and processed foods to get rid of my acid reflux a year ago and my weight started dropping (and now I can have a serving of alcohol and not need a 2 Tums chaser, woot!). So now I can eat salads and stick to exercise, so hopefully somewhere in the next 6 months I'll get to see my abs at long last.

I have a mini-elliptical that's all of 2 ft x 2 ft around. The thing doesn't require you to jostle the floor, and it's quiet.

People seem to think you need this elaborate gym set-up to exercise.

So, I've found that book on amazon, and here are the reviews. The reviews just seem really off. One review said she only worked out four times in six months and lost forty pounds.

When I was just starting out in fitness and weight loss, realizing that I could burn *while* gaming was an enormous boon for me. I looked through the comment replies and I don't think I've seen anyone else advise this, so hopefully I'm not repeating anyone else.

Something like this: https://smile.amazon.com/Vaunn-Exerciser-Assembled-Exercise-Required/dp/B07939C866/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_sims?ie=UTF8

Won't break the bath, and some even cheaper ones will completely do the trick. You don't need a lot of features, just some burn while you're sitting there. Just increase the resistance to the point you can pedal consistently without intense effort on every circle, but not super easy/as fast as you can either, and get it under your desk at home and pedal away. You can expend even more effort with games if you use a gamepad vs keyboard and mouse.

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My 600 LB Life changed my mom's life. :)

At 5'1" she was over 250 lbs and is in desperate need of a left hip replacement right knee replacement (think bone on bone in both joints) and using a walker when she would get up. She would wear depends pads since it was so hard for her to get up to go to the bathroom in time. Surgeon said she was not a joint replacement candidate due to her size.

My mom and I would watch My 600 lb life and it would make some things about ourselves so glaringly obvious. First, all of the people on the show literally shovel food in their mouths, it is one perpetual motion they are scooping more and bring more to their mouth before they even chew and swallow the previous bite. It was such an exaggeration of our own habits that my mom and I could finally see what we did (although not as bad).

My mom today weighs 190 lbs. Considering she can't do any real physical exercise, this is all through diet with some 30-45 minute riding on this little desk elliptical I purchase for her https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AQ7ZNEA/ref=s9_simh_hd_bw_bEIW3_p200_d0_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-3&pf_rd_r=H20B1PMHBJ7RWEMYR1S1&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=6bec2713-1ee7-5cfa-ba20-af770471008d&pf_rd_i=3407771

This is the lowest she has been in decades. She wants to get to 175 before going back to the hip surgeon.

Also sedentary most of the time and I believe my number is somewhat correct. Of course I burn more on my training days, but 1600-1700 number is what my scale suggests. That number could be wrong (I have this scale), but it works for me and my daily calorie count since I don't lose or gain weight. But I admit I could easily be mistaken for cca. 10%, so...

Reminds me of this book, which I need to read.
The Death of Expertise

I have 4 cats, indoor/outdoor. 3 are overweight (15-18 lbs) and the other is on the small side. I've STILL managed to get the three big ones to lose weight while not starving the small one (4-5 cans of wet food on-demand through the day, and a kitty torture tower for their dry food, which always has something in it. If they do start begging for dry, we'll add one cup to the tower and they have to work for it. It's a slow process but it is working!

The only way you can 'eat more and lose weight' is if you go vegan.

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I'm not saying all vegan diets are good diets and will always aid in weight loss. But a lot of people 'sell' veganism as a way to lose weight and eat a ton of food(I know this is not the point of veganism)