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u/boredsole · 16 pointsr/india

Wow. There is actually so much wrong with this comment, I don't know where to begin.

> People who actually have exposure to modern and progressive world views are a tiny minority

This is true of almost every country, including the U.S. Only a few European countries can actually say most of their population is "progressive" and by that I'm assuming you mean supportive of minority/women/LGBT rights. Because "progressive" could also mean having open views about more complex issues like euthanasia, relative punishments for crime, ecological/environmental conservation etc. But again, probably less than 5 countries have even reached that level.

> The vast majority of the country is extremely uneducated, inherently conservative and socially extremely backward.

Ahh, yes the classic urban attitude towards rural people. Have you actually been to the villages of India? The progressiveness you speak of is more prevalent there. Unlike the urban Indian, they are more likely to respect their fellow human and Earth. Sure, they may not be ok with gays, but over time, I have more faith in them doing so than the average urban Indian.

Moreover, these are the same people who have miserable lives, yet have hope and optimism. They invent, innovate, create. What do the urbans do? File for applications to leave the country?

> You have gigantic class divides and every community only cares about themselves. Indian society is inherently very hierarchial and this goes back 1000s of years, with roots in caste.

Ok true. But I don't think it goes back "thousands of years" nor is it "inherent".

Here are 1, 2, and 3 different sources from non-Indian historians that explicitly state otherwise.

Indian society was modeled upon concentric relationship-based circles rather than linear hierarchy. That is something the colonial Europeans brought with them.

> Our religion has also had very little reform and that inevitably shapes society. If anything Hinduism has moved backwards in recent decades.

I don't think Hinduism needs reform. What it need is a revival of its true form. I mean literally everyone I know in India or otherwise who is at least a bit knowledgeable, respects Indian religions as "enlightened".

You've alluded to it elsewhere in your post, it just needs to be less focused on empty rituals, superstitions etc. But the moral/ontological frameworks are more suited to life in this chaotic, globalized world than any other religion, or philosophy (except maybe for Taoism). That's why millions of American/European youth are turning to Indian religions to inform their spirituality.

Though yes, the sanghis need to be curbed for this to happen.

> Of the 'old money' urban Indians, there's a class of them that see everyone beneath them as subhuman. They see themselves as lords. This is a bit like the old British conservative aristocracy mindset. People like Kanchan Gupta, Suhel Seth, Swapan Dasgupta, Chandan Mitra - they're all of this category.

This is how I know you don't know what you're talking about. Suhel Seth as old money? What a fucking joke. I don't even know who these are other people are. How do you fail to mention the Mafatlals, Mistrys, Tatas, Godrejs, Birlas, Mariwalas? There are families that are 8-10 generations of money.

And sure, the may feel aristocratic, but please tell me which country in the world doesn't have an elite that is aristocratic? The Grosvenors Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Carnegies, Vanderbilts, Gumis think the same way of "subhumans". Please read this to understand what old money truly is.

> So India is in a state of flux - from a feudal and medieval society to a modern industrialized society. Until a full transformation happens and there is a proper level of equality and development - both social and economic - you won't see much change.

Right, so basically like most countries in South America, Africa and South East Asia, Eastern Europe and the Middle East. I wonder what the common factor is there, hmm, could it be that they are all developing parts of the world?

> If this continues we will gradually set a course towards what's happening in many parts of the muslim world. A highly politicized, fundamentalist and intolerant far-right influence of religion on politics.

While I agree that the Hindu right is more vocal every time the BJP is in power, Indian society (all societies generally) have been moving to the left for the past hundred years.

The rest of your post I agree with. But, wow do you blow things way out of proportion.

TLDR: It's easy to be a cynic. India is a huge shit-hole, but rock-bottom has been achieved, regardless of politics. It can only get better.









u/thevardanian · 5 pointsr/india

If only Indians would go, and read their own manuscripts that are in the millions, but I guess that's left to people like the Chancellor of UC Berkeley, Nicholas Dirks, because we're too ashamed, or worse too lazy, to find the truth for our selves even though it's right beneath our beds.

Here's a quote from his book "Caste of Minds":

>... the accounts that have become hegemonic in the West, and to some extent India itself, in which caste is the key symbol of Indian society, and in which caste is a system of social relations in which the unvarying position of the Brahman and the untouchable confirm the spiritual basis that justifies, explains, and underlies this unique institution. Dumont's muddle in the middle is the rule, not the exception. In fact, caste neither exhausted the rang of social forms, function, and identities, nor provided underlying unity. The only common social facts of caste concerned the codification of kinship relations and, to some extent, the protocols for interdining. But even these codes and protocols yielded to larger political histories of community formation, regulation, discipline, and participation within a range of larger social and political worlds - until, that is, the larger political history became dominated by a colonial power whose interest in ruling India through an indirect logic predicated on caste changed things altogether.
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and

> ... all Kallars participated in the kingship of the royal Tondaiman family, though to varying extents. The forms of clan and subcaste structure within the group of Kallars were vitally affected by proximity to the king; the political hierarchy turned out to determine the social hierarchy as well, with alliance structures working out the political gradations and relations of proximity in fine detail... The autonomy accorded to pollution issues for Brahmans was the luxury of a particular kind of dominance, and thus, contra Dumont, could only be mistaken as the ideological principle of the hole if one was blinded by power itself... As caste had been constructed as a social system, first in the political milieu of the old regime and then increasingly Brahmanical reforms under colonial rule, the most pervasive forms of oppression were directed at women.
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Furthermore Dirks highlights the fact that the organization of caste, power, and society were not uniform, but shared an underlying feature of addressing political structures.

>From the Telugu country to Maharashtra, and from the older Rajputs of northwestern India to the new Rajputs of central India. The very dominance of these groups suggests the extent to which their own political ideologies and structures exerted influence over the organization of social relations generally, as well as the principles underlying them... My argument is that there were multiple organizing social relations - all, however, socially and politically contingent in various way. We have already noted a far more complex position for Brahmans than would be guess from the texts.
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And to give perspective how nuanced of a role status played out in society:

> As Dubois put it in his inimitable style: "The rights and privileges for which the Hindus are ready to fight such sanguinary battles appear highly ridiculous, especially to a European. Perhaps the sole cause of the contest is the right to wear slippers or to ride through the streets in a palanquin or on horseback during marriage festivals. Sometimes it is the privilege of being escorted on certain occasions by armed retainers, sometimes that of having a trumpet sounded in front of a procession, or of being accompanied by native musicians at public ceremonies." These privileges were, in fact, markers of rights that were indexed to status within and between communities, to control over public space and other pubic markers of position, to relations with various groups and institutions (from powerful and dominant patrons to temples), and to connections with royal families and court personages.
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There's nothing holy in the world, nor a people so spiritual to abide by a con perpetuated by a minority of the people claiming some pure divinity. No. The reality is economy, and power, those two are the only goals human history shares. Everything bows before the king, as Kautilya would be proven right when he asserts that the greatest dharma is not devotion to Kama, or Moksha, but Artha, which a King presides over as his duty. And so this very simple fact is displayed in the working of Caste as mechanism of building relationships in a society, and at the same time forging one's own values, and therefore profession in society. We can also see how, and why we have such an emphasis on family, because it is only through a tight nit group of individuals can we actually progress. Otherwise we're left alone, disparate, and without assistance in this world, and with the one's inner own demons.

With that said it also required the sacrifice of individual exploration as society was you, and you were society. The two were not separate at all. What we see with the rise of enlightenment, and liberal ideas of individualism is in many ways flawed, as Wittgenstein in Tractatus shows that there can be no private thoughts at all. So then this dichotomy, and conflict of having a feeling of individuality, in conflict with society arises, and can only be resolved through asceticism, and understanding the ascetic ideas of ones' own self.

(As for the Mahabharatha we can understand where Arjun is coming from. He's a prince taking part in a royal event, reserved only for the graduating princes of the Kingdom to display their attained knowledge from Gurukul in the Rangbhumi (A play on words of Ranbhumi where Ranbhumi denotes battlefield, and Rangbhumi translates literally as Color-Field, or a display of colors, a display of the varied abilities of the newly graduating youth.). And with the outline of how royalty in India works, I think it would make logical sense for Arjun to object Karan's participation in the event. )

u/kokofeshis · 6 pointsr/india

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Mini box/case/pouch Amazon Rs 190. Cheaper on Aliexpress but it's a long wait. By /u/harddisc

Koala-Tea pun coffee mug for tea lovers: [Amazon](
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Fidget Cube: Amazon Rs 499 by /u/in3xorabl3 This is really cool.


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Knife and
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Amazon Umbrella With vent and one button open/close function [Amazon]
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Panasonic TCM 125: one of the best budget sounding earphones. Around Rs 700



Harmonica Amazon Rs 839 by by /u/desh_drohi This might be a better choice than his other suggestion.




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u/[deleted] · 8 pointsr/india

Here is a list of 5 books specifically in an Indian context

  1. "India since Independence" by Bipin Chandra. It is a well researched, thorough, and succint book on India's journey after attaining independence. It chronicles the significant events accurately, and doesn't leave any aspect untouched.

  2. "Every loves a good drought" P Sainath is among those, fast dissappearing breed of journalists who reports on poverty related issues from the hinterland. He single-handedly thrust the issue of farmer suicide in the Vidarbha region onto the mainstream through his dogged journalism. This is one of his earlier books in which he details extreme poverty and the policies that sustain it with his own keen insights.

  3. "The Meadow" . One of the authors is Adrian Levy who is an award winning investigative journalist. He has also written a book on 26/11 attacks; The siege. In 'The Meadow', the authors investigate the kidnapping of ten Western backpackers in Kashmir during the height of freedom movement in 1995. The book explains how their lives became pawn in the geo-politcal struggle, the role of Indian army during the event, while at the same time providing a good understanding of the Kashmir Issue. Highly Recommended.

  4. "The Discovery Of India" It is a scholarly work on India's history.

  5. "Gunahon ka devta" by Dharmveer Bharti. It is the only fiction book in the list, and probably the last hindi novel I finished. I read this when I was still quite young (I think in eight or ninth class). The characters, their complexities, ambitions, are etched very nicely. If you are still not sold, read the first paragraph.

    Along with these 5, one of my favourite book is "The banality of Evil". It deals with something which confounds me still, just how the seemingly nice, sane people come to support the purest manifestations of evil. What drives such public sentiment ? The book gives some of the answers.
u/attofreak · 8 pointsr/india

For modern India, Ramachandra Guha's India After Gandhi. The dude digs up every memo, every administrative note, personal letter available, to narrate the story of India from around independence till current times (still have to get there). Lots of details, but it is sometimes quite gripping. The whole correspondence between Chou En Lai and Nehru, culminating in the War of '62, is particularly worth reading. Highlights the different governance of the two countries, and causes for India's defeat. There's a lot more. The story of Partition, and how Vallabhai Patel and his secretary (VP Menon) worked to accomplish the daunting task of integrating the over 500 princely states into one, democratic Indian Union is essential.

For ancient India, I am just starting. I just got into John Keay's India: A History. This is a beautiful book. Starts with India's most ancient known civilisation, the Harappas, and proceeds to chronicle the evolution of the country ever since, from the consequential "invasion" of Arya, to the skirmish with Alexander, the rise of Mauryan empire (and Ashoka the great) and the Indian "Dark Age" (that's as far as I have gotten!), and beyond (emergence of the Gupta empire is just around the corner). It is pragmatic, unbiased, thorough narrative of this subcontinent. I really enjoyed the chapter on Vedic era; finally got to know what is reliable and what isn't from that era, and a brief glimpse into how historians work to check the veracity of all the bold claims in the two great epics of Indian literature, Mahabharata and Ramayana. There is also frequent mention of the lineage of kings in Puranas (it is mostly unreliable, with little to know details of the time periods).

This is a novice beginning for me, and I will have to re-read these two books alone several times, to cement any idea of the complexity and diversity of Indian history. Maybe someday, I will get to move on to European history and everything in between!

u/HighLevelJerk · 2 pointsr/india

I would highly recommend Cracking the Coding Interview by Gayle McDowell. Its aimed at cracking interviews at big companies like Google, Microsoft, Amazon, but the things mentioned in the book easily help crack interviews for other companies as well.

You could try to get a cheaper version in your local stores or search for a pdf online if you find it expensive.

Edit: Much cheaper on Flipkart

u/meanthinker · 1 pointr/india

Well then I guess maybe your grandfathers story needs re-thinking.

Judges don’t make the law, they enforce it — do you have an idea of whether the laws themselves were fair? Of how much money was extracted from India over 250 years? Were the British colonising the world to do it a favour?

And should your idea of history be coming from a novel?
This book describes only the period of WW2 and is blood-curdling.

https://www.amazon.in/Churchills-Secret-War-British-Ravaging/dp/0465024815

u/pi3141592653589 · 8 pointsr/india

I will recommend the following book.

http://www.amazon.com/Upanishads-Classic-Indian-Spirituality/dp/1586380214/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1457682069&sr=8-1&keywords=upanishads

From what I understood reading Upanishads, the message is very similar to that in Bhagvad Gita. Our actions are driven by our senses and the selfish desires they drive. The main message of both the books is to overcome your selfish desires and do what is good for the society. The only way to figure out what is good for the society is by making yourself wiser and meditation is emphasized as a way of understanding yourself and your relation to the world. Only then you can figure out what you can do to improve the society you live in. There is no single way of achieving this. It depends on your personality. You can improve the society by doing social work, acquiring knowledge, worship, by going in to administrative services and working for betterment of the society etc.

I cannot emphasize this enough that this is how I interpreted it after reading the books a couple of times. I am not an expert.

u/doc_two_thirty · 1 pointr/india

this one runs on a regular aa battery, and works well. I have used it for 3-4 years.

Then there are the rechargable ones which are newer models which can be used in Indian homes too. This and this ones are the new ones. a bit pricey but excellent features. I have coupon codes for 500-1000 rs discount on these, if you want, just ask!

u/ppatra · 4 pointsr/india

Use a clotrimazole dusting powder like Abzorb or Candid. They'll help you to absorb the sweat and help with bacteria forming due to sweat.

Wear boxers, or normal brief. Don't wear tight boxer briefs or trunks.

If you want to shave then get a multigrooming trimmer and use the foil shaver that comes with it. Or purchase a standalone foil shaver: https://www.amazon.in/dp/B00YJ55SAY/

Trim hair by feeling or get a mirror and stand over it to do the trimming by looking under at the mirror.

u/Bernard_Woolley · 3 pointsr/india

Off the top of my head, I would recommend the following in a heartbeat. These are all well-researched history books/primary sources. They aren't easy reads by any stretch of imagination.

u/firefiend · 2 pointsr/india

You'll only find this type of stone at hardware stone.

Might want to try aliexpress. Maybe something like this set

Another option might be to get the sand papers in the grit you need, stick it to a flat surface and use that. You should be able to get fine grade sandpaper in stores that sell automotive paints and stuff. Be sure to get wet sanding paper.

u/Daemanax2 · -1 pointsr/india

Read this book.

It shows that the caste system as we know it was in part created by the British.

Its interesting that the book takes an example of a kingdom from Kerala itself.

The basic thesis of the book is that:

"Rather than a basic expression of Indian tradition, caste is a modern phenomenon - the product of a concrete historical encounter between India and British colonial rule. "

u/pseudoforce · 2 pointsr/india

http://www.amazon.in/Allen-Carrs-Easy-Stop-Smoking/dp/0615482155/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1395722813&sr=1-1

A new office building has come up near my office. So many girls of that office smoke, i have never seen so many immaculately dressed girls smoking at one time :-). My only problem is they don't properly smoke, i was a smoker for 8 years so i know when i see a faker.

Btw, that book has worked for millions and it will work for you. Good Luck.

u/CalTigerr · 5 pointsr/india

This one is good.

₹1,284


Philips Body Groom BG1024 Battery Operated
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u/saptarsi · 2 pointsr/india

If you are into fictions, here's a good book.

u/exxentricity · 32 pointsr/india

Good knife for the kitchen, and a 'combination stone' to keep the knife sharp. A multimeter.

There's only one 'combination stone' available in the market, and that is this available online at ~Rs. 240 and offline(at least here in Sec'bad) at ~Rs. 135/-

This (which cost me ~$99.00 at the time) is the multimeter I have since ~4 years. This (which cost me ~Rs. 400/-) is what I upgraded from.

u/barmyt · 2 pointsr/india

For history of India .. a good place to start is john keay's India
http://www.amazon.in/India-History-Revised-John-Keay/dp/0802145582

u/nomi_nomi · 2 pointsr/india

http://www.amazon.in/The-Upanishads-Classic-Indian-Spirituality/dp/1586380214

Supposed to be a good translation. Contains all that one needs to know.

u/the_badass_panda · 2 pointsr/india

Get these ones, he says he likes these ones. :P

u/PervyPanda · 1 pointr/india

I think getting these Postcards would be cool. It's a box of 100 DC Comics postcards.

u/s18m · 7 pointsr/india

I quit smoking after 16 years but I guess it's the same issue with chewing tobacco as well. Obviously you need to be in the right frame of mind but I read a book which helped loads. It's called Alan Carr's Easy Way to Stop Smoking.

The problem with tobacco addiction (at least it was in my case) was believing I wouldn't make it a day without it. I'd smoke one minutes before sleeping and smoke one literally minutes after waking up.

This book basically takes every preconceived notion/argument you'd make (as an addict) and logically explains why you would make said argument and how to deal with it. Long story short, you won't have anything to defend your smoking addiction with after reading it. I gave it up 3 years ago and haven't felt the need to pick up a cigarette since.

OP, get the person a copy of the book. Ask them to read it with an open mind. 3 days is all you have to control for, after that it's smooth sailing. :)

EDIT: Also, don't substitute it with something else.

u/_2_4_8 · 23 pointsr/india

Can't find anything that's worth listing in here. The top most suggestion from amazon is a Samsung SD card at 700. It feels as though someone increased the prices and then decreased it to show discount. Is there any price tracker?

Edit: Headphones have seen them from ages, decent and is more than enough for the average bloke.

For old age, because come old age the prices will increase.

Great bluetooth speakers, I got them at 1700 back in the day, but it seems that's the lowest it will go now.


Insurance Porn Storage


Paperwhite it's like every time there's one of these offer sales, paperwhite's price decreases from 11k to 9k.


Piece of shit microwave do not buy, the motor keeps going bad.


Non-hipster wristwatch lol, am I the only one who doesn't like wearing wristwatches?



Chutiya exchange offer from Oneplus, for the OnePlus 3/T they are giving me Rs.11,858. I can easily get upwards of that if I sell the phone elsewhere.

u/priestishere · 1 pointr/india

If you're really looking for a decent one that is priced low, I can recommend this one -> Link

u/Laboe · 6 pointsr/india

At the risk of sounding complacement, maybe India isn't in need of dire saving. After decades of being in the doldrums, it's finally rising at a quite rapid pace. GDP per capita is starting to reach critical mass. India in 2020 will be where China was in the year 2010 according to the IMF(PPP-adjusted).

So its just a decade behind. A big concern is the slowdown in jobs growth. That would cause significant instability if the trend persisted, given that India has about 1 million new entrants into the labor market every single month.

If you look at absolute povery measured by the world bank, the numbers have come down dramatically. India's TFR will also basically converge to replacement rate levels by 2020, something which is necessary to avoid instability and more rapidly increase the wealth of each citizen.

Chidabaram had an interesting talk recently where he talked about India today and its potential. He essentially said neither India nor China could ever reach Western levels of prosperity on a per-capita basis. I wouldn't be so certain. The main constraint today is energy, specifically oil.

That can be overcome(see EVs). Then you have food and whatnot, but that will be possible to bypass by growing your own food in a lab. Water usage can still be streamlined far more than it is today, even in most developed countries. Add to this the general decline in violence over the past several millenia, and you have a decent foundation to build prosperity on. The major risk out there is climate change.

u/nimmajji · 5 pointsr/india

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u/prakashdanish · 1 pointr/india

have you tried this? I have seen it mentioned almost everywhere.

u/homelessvagrant · 1 pointr/india

Arun Shourie took an entire book to refute this notion of rewriting history, instead pointing out how Marxist historians have bastardised history since independence. I wish I could TLDR it, but I simply can't, because unlike the Marxists opinions, its a fact based line by line takedown of how Romila Thapar and her ilk and how they have taken upon themselves the roles of hard selling leftist ideologies by selectively ignoring, modifying and reinterpreting history as suits them. For those who are interested, the link

One of the more interesting things that I recall is how the marxist historians created history by quoting each other in a circle jerk fashion. A writes something based on what B has written, who himself writes it based on C's writings, which if you search cites A as the harbinger of the historical fact. What remains missing are primary sources, and even when they do exist in forms of write ups made by travelling courtesans of the various invaders, they are simply refuted as exaggerations.

A quick example would the Nalanda debate which was going on some weeks back.

This is what Arun Shourie wrote - http://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/how-history-was-made-up-at-nalanda/

Which was followed by DN Jha defending the marxist position - http://kafila.org/2014/07/09/how-history-was-unmade-at-nalanda-d-n-jha/

Which was followed by Koenraad Elsdrat further refuting Jha - http://www.indiafacts.co.in/eminent-historian-attacks-arun-shourie/

For an hour, leave aside your political leanings (and ignore those of the authors), read the 3 articles in order of publication and see what you can make of it. Would be interesting to have a discussion on the same here. Either way, its a slow news day today.

u/romainmyname · 3 pointsr/india

Start with this and then read about social problems with this, Political Theory with this. Read The Hindu, IE and for finance read Mint.

u/sammyedwards · 1 pointr/india

Not really. Genghis Khan razed down races of people, cities and empires, with no evidence left. There is still debate on whether WW2 was the bloodiest in history. You can read this acclaimed book- https://www.amazon.com/Better-Angels-Our-Nature-Violence/dp/0143122010

Which uses statistics to argue how violence has decreased through the ages.

u/popfreq · 0 pointsr/india

> Hitler wasn't better during WW2

From our point of view.

Different countries have different interests. Israelis put a higher emphasis on tragedies that affected them directly. Americans put a higher emphasis on tragedies that affected them directly. So do the Russians, Amenians, Polish and every other people. We are Indians -- why should we, uniquely in the world, put others major tragedies, ahead of our own?

Remember -- Hitler was not genocidal towards Indians. Millions of Indians did not die because of him.

We should not be ignoring the fact that the death of millions o Indians is more pertinent to us.

> Nope this is simply not true,

It is. See Churchill's Secret War

> Churchill did is in no way comparable to the holocaust or the evil perpetrated by Imperial Japan.

It is ironic you say that, because in the first para I pointed out that India gave Hirohito 3 days of official mourning when he died. Hirohito was the head of Imperial Japan in WW2. He wielded the power in a pretty hands on manner, often overruling his generals/admirals. To ignore him is a pretty large gap for someone implicitly claiming to knowledgeable in "real history".

>There is a tremendous difference in degrees. To say otherwise is to lessen the victims of the holocaust and the victims in most of eastern Asia.

Many magnitudes more of Indians died due to British Rule. Even the period covered by Mike Davis' Late Victorian Holocausts has around 30 million. I have sympathy for the family of Holocaust victims, but it is you who are trivializing the deaths of tens of millions of Indians.

u/DaManmohansingh · 1 pointr/india

Food stocks from India (and from Australia Wheat stocks) were diverted to the Mediterranean theatre.

British Raj officials themselves pleaded with London (Churchill) to release stocks off food, British Army said Med theatre had adequate food stocks, yet the food was diverted to the Med.

The famine was in itself caused by scorched earth policy which messed up rice production in Burma. There was no way the British did not know that cutting away the rice supply from Burma would cause a famine like situation in India. Interestingly enough, according to Amartya Sen the British position is made weaker. He says food production actually increased and if they hadn't been diverted purposely to the Med, the famine wouldn't have even occurred.

The level of food supply is strangely very murky (some observers talk about a storm in 42 that wiped out an entire season's crop, Amartya Sen talks about excess food supply) but what is clear is India lost a fair portion of the rice imports from Burma (scorched earth) and massive food stocks were diverted to the Med.

However let me quote Madhushree Mukherjee,

>>The Japanese occupation of Burma in March 1942 cut off rice imports, of between one and two million tons per year, to India. Instead of protecting the Indian public from the resultant food shortage, the War Cabinet insisted that India absorb this loss and, further, export rice to countries that could no longer get it from South East Asia. As a result, after war arrived at India’s borders, the colony exported 260,000 tons of rice in the fiscal year 1942-43.

>>Meanwhile India’s war expenditures increased ten fold, and the government printed paper money to pay for them. In August 1942 a representative of India’s viceroy told the War Cabinet that runaway inflation could lead to “famines and riots.”

>>In December 1942, Viceroy Linlithgow warned that India’s grain supply was seriously short and he urgently needed 600,000 tons of wheat to feed soldiers and the most essential industrial workers. The War Cabinet stated that ships were not available. In January 1943, Churchill moved most of the merchant ships operating in the Indian Ocean over to the Atlantic, in order to build up the United Kingdom’s stockpile of food and raw materials. The Ministry of War Transport cautioned him that the shift would result in “violent changes and perhaps cataclysms” in trade around the Indian Ocean. (In addition to India, the colonies of Kenya, Tanganyika, and British Somaliland all suffered famine in 1943.) Although refusing to meet India’s need for wheat, Churchill insisted that India continue to export rice.

>>With famine raging, in July 1943 Viceroy Linlithgow halted rice exports and again asked the War Cabinet for wheat imports, this time of 500,000 tons. That was the minimum required to feed the army and otherwise maintain the war effort. The news of impending shipments would indirectly ease the famine, he noted: any hoarders would anticipate a fall in prices and release grain, causing prices to fall in reality. But at a meeting on August 4, the War Cabinet failed to schedule even a single shipment of wheat for India. Instead, it ordered the buildup of a stockpile of wheat for feeding European civilians after they had been liberated. So 170,000 tons of Australian wheat bypassed starving India—destined not for consumption but for storage.

>>Meanwhile, the United Kingdom’s stockpile of food and raw materials, intended for shoring up the postwar British economy, reached 18.5 million tons, the highest ever. Sugar and oilseeds overflowed warehouses and had to be stored outdoors, under tarpaulins.

>>Of course Churchill knew that his priorities would result in mass death. In one of his tirades against Indians, he said they were “breeding like rabbits” anyway. On behalf of Indians, the War Cabinet ignored an offer of 100,000 tons of Burmese rice from freedom fighter Subhas Chandra Bose (who was allied with the Japanese), discouraged a gift of wheat from Canada, and turned down rice and wheat volunteered by the United States.

>>The War Cabinet eventually ordered for India 80,000 tons of wheat and 130,000 tons of barley. (Barley was useless for famine relief because it had no impact on prices.) The first of these meager shipments reached India in November. All the while, the Indian Army consumed local rice and wheat that might otherwise have fed the starving. The famine came to an end in December 1943, when Bengal harvested its own rice crop—at which point Churchill and his friend Cherwell renewed their demand for rice exports. Source

I strongly recommend her book as well, it is from this (and Sen's to a certain extent) that I came to the conclusion that the Bengal famine was not a famine, but a man made genocide.

Churchill's Secret War: The British Empire and the Ravaging of India During World War II

The Bengal famine was no different from the Holdomor in the sense that it was death by starvation caused wilfully by a government that knew it's actions would result in the deaths of millions.