(Part 2) Top products from r/longrange

I'll start by saying I think that savage looks pretty awesome. However:


Despite a lot of hate on the AAC-SD I have one and I love it. Out of the box it shot sub-MOA with factory load XM118s and PPU 168s. The factory Xmark Pro gets unnecessary hate for no reason. It has amazing adjustment and feel out of the box compared to a lot of the hair triggers people try to put on their rifles. You really don't need another trigger but you can if you want to waste the money. Remington will do the recall on the rifle for free for the "totally fires itself if you run it down to the lowest setting and bump it like a dumbass" bullshit that is not even true of any R700 ever built, but you can send it in and they will do it for you. I sent both of mine in just because it made it easier to ship them to my new house when I moved. Their customer support is pretty awesome. As is Smith and Wesson's and Winchesters in my experience.

The rifle is stock for me at the moment and I am using a Caldwell bi-pod with a Bushnell elite scope. The scope isn't the end all be all but it is the best thing I've ever shot through as a civilian. I was in the same boat as you money wise. I do notice the complaint about the free float being negated with a bi-pod sometimes since the Hogue stock is basically rubber but if you fire each round with the exact same fundamentals down it will shoot sub-moa still. I'm using a 20MOA down scope mount from Nightforce and I love it. The rifle is a bit heavy and I do want to swap out the stock eventually for a M24 or M40 variant but it can easily be handled and used to shoot and move if you choose to practice like that. I've had it out to 500 yards so far and at that range it still shot a 16oz water bottle off the wall at our tactical range from our elevated tower. I'll see if I have any pictures of it somewhere and I'll post it, or just take it out later and take a picture of it.

I got the rifle itself from Buds Gun shop Police discount side of the house for $600 shipped to my FFL and most everything else from Amazon since there wasn't a good shop where I lived at the time.

Rifle

Scope

Scope mount/rings

Bipod

Scope Level

>where I can make a 500 yard kill shot, and hit sub MOA at 800. Is that doable with my set up?

It's possible, though likely challenging with your setup unless your barrel ends up being really good and you find ammo it really likes. And you will need lots of range time and practice.

As for bipods, you don't want to cheap out and get imported Chinese shit, but you don't need to spend a ton of money either. Harris occupies the sweet spot for durable, reliable, low weight bipods at reasonable money.

This is the one most people on here recommend for flat prone and bench shooting. You might want the 9-12 for prone shooting innawoods hunting.

I used the notched non-swivel version that is $20 cheaper or so.


As for rings, I prefer to get a rail AND rings so that there is something really consistent that the scope is mounted to that isn't subject to flex or QC issues like receivers can sometimes be. The rail acts kindof like a buffer, they aren't expensive, and they give you 20 MOA of elevation if you choose. Plus they give you a Picatinny section that will give you a much greater selection of ring choices.

I also really like the Burris Signature Zee rings for solid, reliable, safe scope holding since the plastic inserts help spread the clamping force and prevent issues with rings being not perfectly true or the insides not exactly mating with the scope.

This Talley rail(I thought that was a rail for an m77, but apparently it isn't, see the rail from a poster below) and these rings are what I would put on my rifle.

I think 12x is a good in between, 10x is also fine. Depending on how far you shoot normally, the 16x would also be acceptable. If you are just shooting from prone or something, 16x would be good. If you are doing a bit more PRS type stuff, 12x is the way to go, or even 10x.

To save a bit of money, I would also recommend getting the burris signature 30mm rings. Reason being is you won't have to buy a 20MOA base with these (assuming you haven't already) - you can adjust the MOA with the rings and they're relatively cheap. You will want to upgrade from them later on though, I'm sure they will slip eventually.

What is the main purpose of your rifle? Hunting? Plinking? Competitions? The answer should effect which optic you get.

Shooting mat and rear bad like the other guy suggested. My first bag was a sock filled with unpoped popcorn and tied off... I still use that bag fairly often. this is the mat/bag that I have and I love it.

One thing that I would highly recommend is a scope lover. If you don't have one now then you might not notice how nice it is to have available to you. It van make a very big difference. I have a weaver (I think) anti cant device (scope level) and it was about $30 but I think it's well worth it. If I ever get another level it will probably be a solid piece instead of the hinged one I have now.

Hope this is helpful!

I've built something similar using point-to-point Wifi gear. It kinda sucks having to align to line up two antennae but you get much better range.

I am using Ubiquiti Networks (http://www.ubnt.com/) equipment used in
long haul Wireless ISPs. This equipment is inexpensive and uses
standard technology: Power-Over-Ethernet (POE), Wifi, so it's easy to tweak.

I'm using a 9 amp-hour battery and current draw is ~0.6 amps so that
comes out 10 hours or so. It would be trivial to tack on a Solar panel
or bigger battery. The charge controller takes POE as an input so it's
easy to recharge the battery.

Here are a couple pics:

Shows the camera side of the setup:
http://imgur.com/PvjuFRJ

Shows two .30 cal shots my tripod took and kept standing. :-)
http://imgur.com/aa37kzt

The price tag for my setup came out to $438, here is the parts list:

2 x AmazonBasics 60-Inch Lightweight Tripod with Bag
http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-60-Inch-Lightweight-Tripod-Bag/dp/B005KP473Q/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1403996810&sr=8-3&keywords=tripod
$48

POE/Solar Dual Input 12V Battery Charge Control (TP-SCPOE-1224)
http://www.ispsupplies.com/brands/Charge-Controllers/Tycon-Power-TP-SCPOE-1224.html
$52

12V 9AH AGM SLA Battery (TPBAT12-9)
http://www.ispsupplies.com/brands/Batteries/Tycon-Power-TPBAT12-9.html
$26

Power extender over ethernet for Foscam (WS-POE-5v-10w)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DAMKQWW/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1
$12

Foscam FI8905W Outdoor Wireless/Wired IP Camera
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003YUEF0E/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1
$92

Ubiquiti NanoStation M2
http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-NSM2-US-NanoStation-M2/dp/B004EFH6L8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1403997019&sr=8-1&keywords=nsm2
$86

24V 1A 24W Wall Plug Passive POE Inserter (TP-POE-24-WP)
http://www.ispsupplies.com/brands/POE-Sources/Tycon-Power-TP-POE-24-WP.html
$12

3 x 10FT 24AWG Cat6A 500MHz STP Ethernet Bare Copper Network Cable -
Blue
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10232&cs_id=1023216&p_id=5902&seq=1&format=2
$15

MTM Ammo Can (Forest Green)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003ISKM9K/ref=oh_details_o00_s01_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
$16

DC Inline Watt Meter and Power Analyzer, Powerpole Ends
http://www.powerwerx.com/digital-meters/dc-inline-watt-meter-power-analyzer-powerpoles.html
$60

Revo 5" Hand Grip for HDSLRs and Video Cameras (Black) - Used for mast to strap Wifi antenna to
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/930248-REG/revo_vb_120b_5_hand_grip_for.html
$14

1" Schedule 40 PVC Pipe
Hardware Store
$5

Plano double scoped rifle case for me. Love it. Affordable, durable and legit. Not. Big fan of the pluck foam so I bought some replacement foam for cheap and cut with turkey shears. Works like a charm!

Here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0029KDHQI/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Foam here:
http://www.thefoamfactory.com/opencellfoam/charcoal-R.html

I also have the tactical ar case from Plano and I'm equally as pleased with the quality of the product for the cost!

The fundamental text on the subject would be McCoy's Modern Exterior Ballistics. That isn't cheap, so you could check out the original paper that laid the basis for the common point mass model used in most ballistic solvers. This Master's thesis also has a great deal of useful information. Depending on whether or not you have access to various journals, there are some interesting papers on various approaches to piece-wise linearization of the equations, which saves the trouble of needing an RK4 or similar method for the solution of PDEs. [Kalil, 2015](http://ascelibrary.org/doi/abs/10.1061/ASCE AS.1943-5525.0000381) and Hainz, 2005 are worth a look.

My reloading setup was based on budget. I spent about $147 total for my Lee Single Stage Press + extras. The only complaint I have is I wish the press was a little more accurate for speedier results.

Id like if anyone commented on high speed pressing components with high accuracy results. It would be nice to have but really just curious whats out there and what works.

Edit: incase you were curious ive listed my parts below

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002BDOHNA/ref=oh_details_o09_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000GSLKIW/ref=oh_details_o08_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002SF4X5I/ref=oh_details_o07_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

http://www.amazon.com/Lee-Precision-Deluxe-3-Die-Rifle/dp/B00162TEOE

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NOQIOU/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NOSGOU/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0014136PA/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i02?ie=UTF8&psc=1

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00162UGQE/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Hello. Here is a Tikka T3 Hunter in .308 with a Nikon Monarch 3 6-24x50 SF BDC and a vortex scope level. It is mounted in a KRG X Ray chassis and a Harris Bipod. I have yet to shoot it, taking it out tomorrow but I am so damn excited. Only thing left that I'm interested in changing now is the trigger but I haven't found one yet. Also, the folks at KRG are great. it took 7 days (ordered on Friday, arrived the next Friday) for the chassis to arrive.

Depending on what you are loading (and how tight you want the tolerances to be) analog scales work great for setting up your powder measure. I use the Hornady Auto Charge and it works great for half the price of the RBCS Chargemaster.

I have a Barska 20-60x scope that is $75 on amazon. It's not exactly high quality, but it works pretty well for the price. I'm not sure how well it'll work at 300 yards, I've only used it at the 100 yard range. Also FYI, if you wear glasses, you'll need to take them off to look through this scope.


http://www.amazon.com/BARSKA-Colorado-Waterproof-Spotting-Scope/dp/B001HN9QZY

I would make sure that your rifle can fit into the case prior to ordering it. I have both the 42" Plano case and the longer case with wheels (this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0029KDHQI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1). My rifle (20" barrel) BARELY fits into the longer case. It's a great case overall though.

Both eyes.

My uncle was a firearms instructor and shot competitively. He taught me how to shoot after my father passed away. One day he noticed me squinting my left eye and said my father would have slapped me on the back of the head if he saw me doing that.

Shooting with one eye closed causes fatigue if you do it for very long. It will also cause you to lose visual acuity after a few seconds vs shooting with both eyes open. A.A. Yur'yev wrote a really good book with all sorts of awesome information like this in it. I like to reread it every few years or so as it seems I always pick up something new.

Here's a link if you're interested: http://www.amazon.com/Competitive-Shooting-Techniques-Training-Running/dp/0935998535

I realize that is a valid question but I felt stupid saying it out loud. Basically it is a Nightforce 1 piece mount. I had this thought as I was mounting it and as it turns out the screw holes only line up one direction. I feel like from what I was seeing that the thing is mounted backwards but it literally does not fit the other way, the screws just don't line up. I'll take it off and give it a whirl though one last time and see what happens. I mean this would be a super simple answer that I actually struggled with for a while. To be 100% honest, looking at it my mind tells me that it is on backwards but like I said the screw holes just don't line up to make that possible.

Edit: This is the mount and I have it mounted where that extra bit that is to the right in the image is the back of the scope. That is the only way it fits and some google image searching seems to agree that is properly mounted.

https://www.amazon.com/Allen-Company-Buttstock-Shell-Holder/dp/B00162JKH0/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1465559264&sr=8-4&keywords=stock+pack works great. very solid on the rifle.

I bought my BTR from Amazon. I have it on my Savage BA110 Stealth with the Vortex rings. It works well for the price point. Everything is more accurate than I am. The illuminated reticle is very nice in low light situations. The only beef I have is at full magnification it is very grainy. Although I knew this when I purchased it.

You could also purchase it through Opticsplanet. They currently have a 10% off code.

My rifle

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00162JKH0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 It seems great for the price.

There are a few variations on products like this one, not saying this is the best, but it gives you a starting point.

American defense makes a nice QD mount that will hold a repeatable zero.

https://www.amazon.com/American-Defense-AD-RECON-STD-Riflescope/dp/B002E6USZK

The C90 is actually pretty compact. Smaller than a lot of spotting scopes actually.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/sMAz87iC-ok/maxresdefault.jpg

It's also only $170:

http://www.amazon.com/Celestron-52268-C90-Mak-Spotting/dp/B0038QYRDO

Add this $52 eyepiece to get all the way to 156x zoom:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0007UQNV8/ref=pd_aw_sim_p_1?refRID=0014SNKCY8APY6WBWKF4

Then all you'd need is a tripod.

Nice suggestion, especially for $160!

I updated the main post with this selection from Vortex: http://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-DBK-04-BDC-Diamondback-Riflescope/dp/B001EC7KMY

I put one of these on my Ruger American Predator with a BT10

https://www.amazon.com/BLACKHAWK-Swivel-Stud-Picatinny-Adapter/dp/B004T14ZZW

It works fine. Hasn’t come loose.

GG&G and ACCUTac make something similar too

Edit: you probably want something like BT17 1913 Rail.

I run these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007V6QU6O

On this rail: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0051UJQU4

The rail is massive overkill for a R700/.308 gun. But it is very nice and very tight tolerances.

The Cheapest Lee press is a worthwhile addition to your setup.


It's the bastard stepchild on my bench, and is relegated to depriming every piece of brass before they get tumbled as not to get dirt and primer residue on my progressive or larger single stage presses. It's often on sale for $20, and it's worth it to save the abuse on your nicer equipment.

http://www.amazon.com/Caldwell-336647-Lead-Sled-DFT/dp/B000X7AJP6/ref=sr_1_2?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1406563582&sr=1-2&keywords=lead+sled

works well.

A bubble level helps you get the rifle level each time you fire, at long range this will cause a change in impact because the optic/barrel and no longer in the same vertical plane so to speak.

[Canting Effect on Point of Impact] (http://www.accurateshooter.com/optics/canting-effect-on-point-of-impact/)

A torque wrench is also a good idea.

Link to bubble level: Vortex 1in Bubble Level

I put this on my R700. Works fine and think I got it for around $22-25
[https://www.amazon.com/Weaver-Extended-Multi-Slot-Base-Remington/dp/B0049IPYXW]

Many of the formulas can be found in the books:

1. Bryan Litz's Applied Ballistics for Long Range Shooting(https://store.appliedballisticsllc.com/Ballistic_Performance_of_Rifle_Bullets_3rd_Edition_p/0010.htm) and
   
   
   
2. Robert McCoys Modern Exterior Ballistics(https://www.amazon.com/Modern-Exterior-Ballistics-Robert-McCoy/dp/0764338250?keywords=robert+mccoys+modern+exterior+ballistics&qid=1538411137&sr=8-1-fkmrnull&ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_1).
   
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   However it used to take about 3 months to do a full ballistic calculation. The first computer ever (ENIAC) was designed to combat this. Reducing the time to about 3 days. Now your cell phone can do it in about 1 second. I would suggest using an app like ours to perform the calculations for you.

Competitive Shooting by A.A. Yur'yev covers this in detail, but I have no idea where to recommend the book for cheap.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0029KDHQI?keywords=double%20scoped%20plano&qid=1457403241&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

How about this one for $10 less:

https://www.amazon.com/American-Defense-AD-RECON-30-STD/dp/B002E6USZK/ref=pd_sim_200_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B002E6USZK&pd_rd_r=DG12D2Q2X7YW422T55E1&pd_rd_w=601K1&pd_rd_wg=RBtGX&psc=1&refRID=DG12D2Q2X7YW422T55E1

VISM

Me too. But I was looking at an upgrade to the DFT.

So to piggy-back on the OP's question, has anyone have anything to say about the DFT?

http://www.amazon.com/Weaver-Extended-Multi-Slot-Base-Remington/dp/B0049IPYXW.

There is the 20 moa version I know there is a 40 for a la or at least was because I had one.

Non-mobile: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0007UQNV8/ref=pd_aw_sim_p_1?refRID=0014SNKCY8APY6WBWKF4

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I use this one with the ProChrono. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005KP473Q/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I was mistaken, it's not a Lee powder dispenser. This is the scale I'm talking about.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003O20UOW/ref=ya_aw_oh_bia_dp?ie=UTF8&psc=1