(Part 2) Top products from r/malefashionadvice

No problem friend, I basically only wrote this reply, after I saw the way you replied to the other comments - you seemed genuine about making a change to a better dressed man, and for me, dressing good is a form of good manners. Good job on the decision, it will be the one of the best you took in your life!

To your question: Yes, indeed. A business casual wardrobe is about versatility. If you purchase garments who can work together, you always have many more outfit potentials.

It is why I recommend most of all:
A few light blue shirts
A few white shirts
A black shirt
A button down oxford collar in white/pale blue
A striped shirt.
Grey chinos
Blue chinos (The ones you are wearing in the photo are a super well fit for you)
Dark blue jeans
A gray sweater
A navy sweater
A brown pair of oxfords
A black pair of oxfords

• When you have these items, and you continue to build on your wardrobe, these things are great to have:
  Brown pair of double monk strap shoes
  A navy blazer, I recommend hopsack weaving for casual style
  A navy/charcoal suit, slim fit, notched lapels - I recommend suitsupply
  Chinos in tan, olive, white
  
  
  Basically friend, you just need to make sure that things fit you. If you are not a perfect height for your trousers, get them altered. If your shirt sleeves are too long, get them altered. This will indeed cost you some extra bucks on all purchases, but it is the best investment any man can make in dressing.
  
  Another thing which is crucial to remember. Building a great wardrobe takes time. It is not something you just get in a minute, you need to work on it and get inspired. As you start wearing these clothes, and you get compliments leading to confidence, perhaps you start taking some more "risky" clothing choices. Personally, I wear a tie 5/7 days a week, even when I am not at work - For me, a tie is my art. I am very italian dressed, but it is a whole world different than typical American or British dress.
  
  Check out these channels:
  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmRfQHc3U4fV1-i8Ry1HmtA - Real Men Real Style. This guy is all about business casual. Many informative videos.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/user/AlphaMconsulting/featured - AlphaM. This guy has a channel which covers any "man" aspects, however, there are tons of good style videos aswell. This guy has a series where he turns people with "bad" style into great style. It is called "The Alpha M project" Watch those, as he take people shopping and talks about importance of fit and versatility.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/user/thegentlemansgazette
  Sven from Gentleman's Gazette, is deeply focused on men's style. Business casual is not his expertise, but he surely make some nice videos if you are into tailored construction, tie knotting etc.
  
  Lastly, I can recommend the book named "The art of permanent fashion" http://www.amazon.com/Dressing-Man-Mastering-Permanent-Fashion/dp/0060191449
  
  this is a wonderful book with many thoughts of style, with great photos of the style icons through the years. Much information on basically everything in men's style.
  
  

How much money do you have to spend on clothes right now? Take that money and spend half of it on a good, comfortable, nice-looking pair of shoes. If you don't have hundreds of dollars, go to a second-hand store or a vintage clothing store or something, but try to buy new shoes. You can buy cheap stuff for every other article of clothing if you like, but don't skimp on the shoes; they are the most important aspect of your wardrobe. A pair of black oxfords would be versatile.

Next, get a button-down shirt (or some shirts) which fit you well in the shoulders and waist. You want your shirt to fit like a second skin. Try to find something that is long enough that you can bring the front and back together at the crotch (more or less). Check the shirt(s) for mother-of-pearl buttons, good stitching, and, if patterned, check to see if the pattern lines up from shoulder to arm. Look up the word "gusset" and try to get shirts with gussets. These are some general marks of a quality shirt. You don't need all these things, but they are signs of quality.

Trousers: make sure they look good in the butt. No frumpy ass for you; no pucker either. Length: around the ankles...no flood, no bunch up at the bottom. Try to get something simple; some nice denim goes well with a dress shirt, a blazer or sport coat and a tie.

Check out the following books:

Dressing the Man

Gentleman: A Timeless Guide to Fashion

Esquire Handbook of Style

The Affected Provincial's Companion--this one is about fashion to an extent, but it transcends it and puts it into a decorum and lifestyle aspect. In fact, also check out Glen O'Brien's new book, How to be a Man if you're interested in a more lifestyle-oriented reason to look nice.

I honestly think the last two books would be a good start for you. Due to your description of yourself, I'd maybe start with How to be a Man. The first few paragraphs are shit, but it gets really good, especially by the time it gets to "How to be sexual". It seems like you need a much better reason to dress nicely than the reasons you've suggested. I think this book could really help you develop a better ethos regarding style, and maybe even help you with decorum (if you need help with that).

Check out this quick video for a great introduction to O'Brien.

Good luck.

edit: clarification

Hello all, I have been wearing faux leather all my life from Zara and I just got my 1st real leather jacket, Koopes Leather Bomber Jacket!

Need some advice on leather cleaner and conditioner since I never cleaned or conditioned my faux leather jackets before. There didn't seem to be a good search results on leather cleaning and conditioning or I must have missed it. From most of the threads I read, it seems like the brand name doesn't matter as much for cleaner and conditioner, but sounds like it is important to NOT use my boots conditioner due to silicone.

My lamb skin jacket did not feel as stiff as my faux leather which I really liked since I want something comfortable for usual wear rather than a stiff jacket with a bit more durability.

My research shows Saddle soap may be a great cleaner and Lexol cleaner and conditioner seem to be a great option too. I read Leather Honey is a great conditioner, albeit the premium price!

I wanted to ask the experts at r/MFA what they personally recommend for lamb skin leather:

1. cleaner
   
2. conditioner! I hear different conditioners can leave a different amount of oils and can even change colors a bit.
   
3. waterproofing, is this worth it?
   
   Edit: Also, I just wanted to confirm that Dry Cleaning leather jackets is NOT okay. I read it may dry and/or crack the leather. Is this true? Sounds like I should just use the cleaner and conditioner once or twice a year?

I'm pretty new to boots as well, but I'd suggest picking up a few things if you don't have them already. This will apply to most leather shoes/boots (doesn't really apply to suede or roughout leathers... for that you'll need a suede brush)

FYI below is basically a tl;dr of this post that got me started on all of this. I recommend you read through it all and check out /r/goodyearwelt and maybe just use this post as more as a quick reference or for ideas.

• Split toe cedar shoe tree (shoe trees can be found on sale for ~$10 sometimes, but make sure they are split toe cedar shoe trees)
  
  
• Leather cleaner & conditioner (This will work great, but some people use coconut oil as a conditioner)
  
  
• Horsehair brush
  
  
• Shoe horn
  
  Once everything is acquired you'll be ready to give your boots an initial tune-up and have some daily-care tools.
  
  

1. Brush off your boots as much as you can with the horsehair brush
   
   
2. Wipe down your boots with a wet rag
   
   
3. I'm guessing you won't get everything off, so wait for them to air dry and then use the leather cleaner on them (you probably won't have to use leather cleaner every time... and you might not want to as it dries out the boot)
   
   
4. Wait for your boots to air dry
   
   
5. Condition the leather on your boots.
   
   
6. Wait for your boots to air dry
   
   
7. Repeat whenever your boots need it. On average that will probably be every 3-6 months, but the best way to tell is by feel.
   
   Daily Care
   
   

• Use a shoe horn to put your shoes on
  
  
• When you take off your shoes give them a quick brush. Ideally you'll take off the shoelaces first but it won't kill them if you don't do this every time. I'd recommend at least brushing them off once every few wears, and brush+wipedown with water/rag every 5-10 wears.
  
  
• Always put cedar shoe trees in your leather boots/shoes when you take them off and leave them in until your next wear... this is what happens if you don't. The shoe trees will help keep your boots from developing unwanted toe spring, will help control moisture inside the boot, and will keep them smelling fresh.
  
  
• Let your boots rest/dry for 24hrs in-between wears with shoe trees in. If you wear them every day you will significantly reduce their lifespan.

I absolutely love the style of that watch but as someone else with thin wrists, I could never wear it.

I wear a 36mm Citizen Eco-Drive and that's pretty damn close to my limit..

Also I must say I really recommend that watch for under $100 as being a well made stylish watch.

And it's SOLAR POWERED and even after 20 years the specially designed lithium battery inside with still retain 80% of it's original capacity. It will work in complete darkness for 180 days before dying.
Also 12 hours of sunlight is enough to power it for something like an entire week in complete darkness. It's insanely efficient.

I don't even go outside often and it charges so well from ambient light that I've never had the battery go low. Eco Drives are amazing watches and I highly recommend them for anyone that wants something that pretty much never needs maintenance.

(I've heard having seals changed every few years is good for ensuring water resistance though)

I know I sound like a Citizen salesmen or something, but I'm just an honestly impressed 22 year old who loves the hell out of the first good watch he bought.

It's been referenced before, but the book Dressing the Man has as chapter on this. Basically, it says that there are two options for color coordination which are known to work well. The first is mimicking the amount of contrast between your skin and hair tones with the contrast in your clothes. For example, if you have pale skin and dark hair you can go high contrast like this. You fall somewhere in either high contrast or medium contrast, so the you can have a lot of fun. On the other hand, if you're light skinned and blonde you'll look better in less contrasting colors, like this. If you're darker skinned (black, spanish, whatever) then you can usually get away with more variations than a lighter skinned person would.

The second method of looking good with color coordination is matching colors that are found in your face and hair with the colors in your clothing. The most important color that people notice is your hair color, followed by your skin complexion, and thirdly your eye color. Matching parts of your dress with these colors is usually a safe way to go. Here is a good example of how to pull this off.

These two methods tend to work well, but obviously once you understand the basics you can experiment. I used only pictures of suits, but these principles can be extended to casual dress as well.

That's a great find! The lack of heel might be odd if you aren't use to it, so watch for arch pain. As for the shoes, check the heel stitching and make sure it isn't loose, and that the sole is in good condition without uneven wear. A cobbler can easily fix those things. Also, check that the tongue and vamp seam isn't stretched or torn. Also, switch out the laces a thiner braid, waxed ones if you can - something slick to match the shoe.

As for care, definitely check out the "Put This On" episode that Thamonsoon recommended. Your initial clean will be cleaning the dust off with a damp cloth, get in the seams - try a toothbrush. Then wait for them to dry and give a good brushing. For continual maintenance, I'll copy my shoe care suggestions I made from another post here:

"I made another post about boat shoe care, so in that style I'll give you the basics of caring for your new shoes.

You will need a soft cloth, any jersey cotton will work, or you can buy a shoe rag, a stiff brush, cedar shoe trees and some shoe polish. This will cost you about $30 USD and last a while.

• After a day of wear: Brush any mud or debris off of them, don't forget the soles, and give them a quick wipe with a damp cloth. Put in the shoe trees so that they fit snugly, but not too tight.
  
  
• Every 1 to 2 weeks, depending on usage: Polish your shoes. To do this, start by removing the laces and cleaning the shoe of any dust or debris, if you use a damp cloth, wait for the shoes to dry before continuing. Then, take your polish brush, collect some polish from the tin on the bristles and brush your shoes until you can see a thin layer of polish on them. Once you've covered all the sides and seams, let them stand for 15 minutes or so for the polish to set.
  After they've set, buff you shoes vigorously with your polish brush until they have a lustre and you can no longer see the matte texture of polish. If you wish to "shine" your shoes, give them that reflective lustre, take your polish rag and give you shoes a once over with polish. Just enough so you can see you've covered the shoe. Then add a few drops of water to an area of the shoe an buff with the polish cloth to a mirror shine. Continue until the all the polish is buffed, adding water drops as necessary. That's all.
  
  
• When they've become considerably soiled: Make sure the shoes are dry, then clean off any dirt. Take a damp cloth and wipe the shoes down, using a brush or you finger to clean out seams and stitching. Pay attention to tongue seams, sole stitching and lace eyelets. Allow the shoes to dry completely and polish as above, however, when first adding the polish, let them sit for an hour or two for the leather to absorb the polish well, this should ease the stress of the dirt drying the leather and the water affecting the panels.
  
  As for brands, Kiwi is affordable and accesible to most people. There are other brands, so if something is easier for you to get, that's fine. If you need help with selection, just give your location and I can find some local options. As for colour, try and match the polish, but if you don't want to, you can go with neutral - it will do no harm, but your shoes may have a diminished lustre or show more patina ageing as you wear them, as it lacks any colouring. Definitely don't think an "Express" or "Rub-on" option will do the same, it won't and your shoes will suffer in the long term because of it.
  
  That's the basics for at-home care. If you have any problems with them, like a seam opening or your soles are wearing in places, don't hesitate on bringing them to a cobbler. Ask around for recommendations, or check online review sites for your area to find a one. A good cobbler can do wonders to bring your shoes back to life, or modify them for your needs. I'm not sure what brand you have purchased, but some shoe companies offer rebuilding services for shoes that are significantly worn, but can still be repaired.
  
  If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask, and good luck with your new shoes!"

No shoe lasts forever, but here is how you can help yours try

• Avoidance: Try not to wear your shoes in the rain, wet leather soles wear several times as quickly as dry ones and are more susceptible to tears or other serious damage. Treat your shoes like you would your foot, don't kick anything or drop anything on them.
  
  
• Rotation: Wear your nice leather shoes only every second or preferably third day, this gives the leather time to dry, which will reduce wear and tear. Cost $0 Last: 10-15 years From: You
  
  
• Shoe Trees: Pulls moisture out of your shoes after they're worn. Maintains shape and keeps them smelling nice. Cost: $24.95 Lasts: 10-15 years From: Woodlore/Allen Edmonds, Jos A Bank on sale, Nordstrom
  
  
• Shoe Horn: goes behind your heel as you put your shoes on, keeps your heel from folding over the leather in the back and degrading it over time. Cost $2.50 Lasts: Lifetime From: Amazon
  
  
• Toe and heel: they're little metal plates that are nailed into the sole to keep that area from wearing. Doubles the life of the sole. Cost ~$20 Lasts: 1-2 years From: Local cobbler or shoe repairman.
  
  
• Topy: Thin rubber top coat over the toe of the shoe, lowers the wear of the leather. Cost ~$30 Lasts: 1-2 years From: Local cobbler or Shoe Repairman.
  
  
• Leathr conditioner: Every two weeks to two months depending on wear. Keeps the leather soft and happy. Cost $4.95 + Shipping Lasts: at least a year. From: Allen Edmonds
  
  
• Horsehair Brush: Keeps dirt, dust and salt off your shoes, brushing down when you get home will keep your shoes clean and happy. Cost: $6.99 Lasts: 5-6 years From: Kiwi
  
  
• Creme Polish: Helps moisturize leather, maintain colour and keep them shiny. Cost: $9.00 Lasts: At least a year From: Allen Edmonds
  
  
• Edge Dressing: Applied once every couple of months to the edge of the sole and heel, it will keep your shoes looking neat and sharp. Cost: $4-5 Lasts: 3-5 years From: Fiebings, Allen Edmonds.
  
  If you take care of your shoes and treat them well, they can last up to 15 years and still look beautiful.
  

Excellent, let me nerd out for a second about suits. Also, that documentary is a GREAT starting point. Personally, it makes me want to become a tailor, and it makes me sad that tailoring is becoming a dying breed of old people who have no younger people to take up their mantle.

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So, before you get into the process of suit making and all of that, and the art that is tailoring. I encourage you to read up on what makes a suit, a suit. But, I'll cut it down real simply for you and leave some links so that you can read up on in depth if it suits you (hodor).

Let's start with the most basic question. What is the foundation of the suit? Strangely, the foundation of the suit, is the shoulder. The drape of your suit and the cut of your suit starts from the shoulder and moves downward. So like we always say, if it doesn't fit on the shoulder, put it back on the rack. There are tons of different types of cuts for shoulders, and how it's padding, and how the sleeve is attached to the shoulder that is all unique to each cut, although it is becoming more homogenized (Personally, I'm an italian cut kinda guy, Neapolitan in specific). How do you like your shoulders? Straight across? Narrower? No padding at all? Extreme sloping? These are the questions you should consider when bespoking your suit, or purchasing your suit in general. How do you like your shoulder to sing?

Next, lets move onto the beauty that is the lapel roll, the flower of the suit, the thing that blooms, the detail that gives your suit depth. A detail that simply resonates with the rest of your suit, don't be flat (jos. a bank), the lapel roll is a piece of art of itself, and a good dry cleaner will not press the life out of the lapel. Of course, you could just do it yourself.

So now that we have touched the outside of the suit. Let's dig a little deeper, how about the inside of the suit? Perhaps as important as the shoulder, is your canvassing. Why is it important? Because canvas is what gives your suit a shape, it's the thing that slowly molds to your body, a quality suit will slowly mold to your body and drape better and better with each wear. A suit with the proper insides need's no hanger to give it shape (put it on a hanger). It almost wears itself (ignore the fact that they are trying to sell something).

Here is some more reading on canvassing

In closing, how about some master tailors talking about their art?

Rudolph Popradi

Martin Greenfield

Multiple tailors from naples discuss their life of tailoring

And now, some books.

A menswear book, a little more for the older gents and those more intersted in history. But very much a classic book that is highly praised for being all encompassing.

How about a book that teaches you to make your own garments?


And a machiavallian approach to the suit. Maybe not as highly praised, but more reading can't hurt that much.

Let's ask some people about their thoughts on the suit and it's changes through the years.

1, 2, 3, 4.

And let's touch on the tuxedo for a bit, probably a little pretentious (especially that esquire guy), but for some reason I like watching people dress up while giving their thoughts..

And finally, a series of videos on a class about suit construction (mainly for women).

Probably doesn't entirely answer your questions, but hey, suits are awesome. If I had enough money to wear a suit everyday for every situation (james bond) I would. If you have the opportunity to apprentice under a tailor, I highly suggest it, maybe you won't become a master tailor, and you most likely will not get paid, but it would be an awesome experience to be under a master craftsman.

For young people, certain things just look like you’re trying too damn hard: bowties, pocket squares, French cuffs, white collars on a colored shirt, suspenders, wide-spread collars, vested suit (sometimes), etc.

It’s easy to blame other people, but your clothes are prompting their reaction. I don’t know you and I don’t know the way you dress. But perhaps you should think about trying to be more subtle: buying nice clothes that aren’t at all ostentatious. Don’t wear bowties if, when you wear one, people make comments.

In my opinion, the majority of advice on MFA will make a high school or college students look good for other high school or college students. If I wore my pants below my natural waste or if I wore wingtips or a bow tie, the men at my work would think I was an immature, insecure, hipster douche bag. There is nothing wrong with those things, but dress to your audience. Being stylish, being able to express your own, personal style, within the bounds of what’s acceptable to your peers is a true and worthy challenge. An artist is limited by the artistic media he chooses to work with. So to, you are limited by your lifestyle, income, peer group, profession, region, etc. Strive to be stylish and express yourself within you lifestyle’s bounds. Then you will look good without looking like you’re wearing a costume to try to look good.

If following the advice on this forum is getting criticism, I’d like to suggest some alternative sources for advice:

http://www.amazon.com/Dressing-Man-Mastering-Permanent-Fashion/dp/0060191449/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1344004043&sr=8-1&keywords=allan+flusser

http://www.amazon.com/Clothes-Man-Principles-Fine-Dress/dp/0394546237/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1344004043&sr=8-2&keywords=allan+flusser

http://www.amazon.com/GENTLEMAN-TIMELESS-GUIDE-FASHION-Ullmann/dp/3833152702/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b

http://www.amazon.com/The-Suit-Machiavellian-Approach-Style/dp/0060891866/ref=pd_sim_b_7 (especially the chapter for “young” persons)

http://www.amazon.com/Elegance-Menswear-G-Bruce-Boyer/dp/0393304388/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1344004086&sr=1-1&keywords=bruce+boyer

http://www.amazon.com/Eminently-Suitable-G-Bruce-Boyer/dp/0393028771/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1344004086&sr=1-3&keywords=bruce+boyer

Your library should have these, as they are menswear “classics.” The books are well-written and, though older than something like “Esquire The Handbook of Style,” the advice is better. How to dress well is a timeless art.

Back to School shopping list:

This, This, or This depending on your hair type/style you want to achieve.

These Converse or these Vans depending on which style you like better. These are going to be your most versatile shoes for "every day" wear.

Assorted Crew or V-Neck Tees, depending on your preference

A good fitting pair of dark jeans, I linked 511's, but those may not suit you depending on your build. Try some pairs on, take pictures, and post them in the Outfit Feedback threads if you're not sure of the fit.


For dressing "up":

Two pairs of well fitting khaki's/chinos in different colors such as these in grey or these in khaki. Again, I linked slimmer fits, as that is what I wear, but you may need to change depending on body type. Posting in the feedback threads is encouraged.

One or two decent Oxford Cloth Button Down collared shirts that fit you well, in light blue and white.

Those should cover your bases as a freshman, as you're not likely going to have to dress super formal.

Note: Because you're just a freshman, you will most likely be hitting many random growth spurts. Try not to spend too much money on clothing, as you will likely outgrow it.

if these are your "moccasin style dress shoes", then what you're looking for are chukkas (or the "desert boot").
I've got a pair of those clarks, and really like them, though the soles are a super weird soft rubber material that will wear at the edges and darken quickly, but they find a balance pretty quick, so you don't need to worry about eating through the sole super fast.
I also just picked up another pair from CK, which have a much nicer sole, but are super narrow for my usual tastes.

No prob, happy to help. The Thorogoods are all-around great performers and I'm sure they'd be great in the rain as long as you treat the leather with some kind of conditioner (like Obenauf's or Huberd's). However, I have dedicated rain boots that are also completely awesome.

You won't find a good skeleton watch in that price range. If you do find one it may look nice, but more than likely it'll be very cheaply made and won't be built to last. For around 150 you have a ton of options. I'd recommend the

Seikon SKX007

or various Seiko 5's 1 2



Orient Mako, it comes in a variety of colors

Deep Blue makes a nice dive watch, this is the quartz version, the mechanical version is a little more expensive.

You can also look into homage watches like Alpha but these are lesser quality than the ones listed above. I'd stay away from brands like Invicta, Stuhrling, and even something like Skagen. If you're going to shell out $150 might as well get your money's worth.

Alright - with all of those things considered...here is my advice. This Seiko 5 is well within your price range and can work in both casual and professional settings. I have one myself, and it's much better looking in person than in the stock photos. Additionally, at only 38mm wide and 11mm thick, it is quite small and won't look big on your wrist (I don't know your measurement, but you should be good). Now, you said you like leather - I suggest putting this hadley-roma strap on it. You may need a spring bar set to help you out, but it's really easy. These three purchases will still put you in at around $50 under budget and a sweet looking wrist piece. Also, if you're looking for what the final product will look like, here is mine with the exact same set up

http://www.evanseasyspace.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Mast-Harbour-Men-Lavender-Marigold-Slim-Fit-Smart-Casual-Shirt_27a675a1a7e7136b1518097673ef32ec_images_1080_1440_mini.jpg

This seems to be the best that comes from the ill defined term "smart casual". My recommendation is a pair of chinos, leather shoes, and an OCBD. And if you feel underdressed maybe a light jacket. I'm guessing you're new to MFA based on your post so I'll post some links to get you on the right track:

• Blue OCBD: http://www.uniqlo.com/us/product/men-oxford-slim-fit-long-sleeve-shirt-088587.html#62|/men/tops/casual-shirts/oxford-slim/|
  
  
• Navy slim fit chinos: http://www.uniqlo.com/us/product/men-slim-fit-chino-flat-front-pants-128443.html#69|/men/bottoms/pants/slim-fit-chino/|
  
  
• Leather shoes can be either nice shoes or more casual ones. Here are some Clarks Desert Boots which are a bit more casual bit still look nice: http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Mens-Bushacre-Beeswax-Leather/dp/B004DCNN64/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1404568400&sr=8-1&keywords=bushacre
  
  
• Get a belt which matches the color of your shoes
  
  
• MOST importantly, make sure everything fits. You will look like shit regardless if youre wearing a $200 outfit or a $900 outfit if things do not fit well.
  
  
• Please check out the sidebar for a much more detailed overview of everything, including fit guides, color schemes, etc. Please do this. Welcome to MFA!

To echo the other comment: with regard to watches, you get what you pay for.

I'm not sure what sort of watch you're interested in, but the Seiko 5 automatics are pretty much the best bang for your buck. As far as entry-level watches go, I personally like this Citizen eco-drive the best.

PSA: you can get better information about color, proportionality and exceptions to rules like this in Alan Flusser's Dressing The Man. The content of this article is nearly identical, but adds the "contrast scale" as a number concept, but the book adds a lot of detail the article lacks. I read this recently and enjoyed it.

Emphasizing the face, color contrast, and shirts and suits to compliment body size and shape are better covered there. Link if you're interested: http://www.amazon.com/Dressing-Man-Mastering-Permanent-Fashion/dp/0060191449

You look like a tall guy, so you might want to look for jeans with a higher rise. Short-rise jeans make your torso look long and your waist too short, but pulling short-rise jeans up too high is going to be uncomfortable (obviously). Something like Levis 501s (or the more expensive Japanese repros, if you want higher-end denim) is going to be a much better choice.

I'd definitely recommend brown leather shoes and a brown belt with that. For more casual, a pair of tan suede bucks would be a classic choice. If you want something you can dress up a little more, a pair of wingtips or longwings would look great.

No, that's not what you're looking for. The only reason you'd get a Timex is because you want to save money, right? If you're willing to put in extra money for a watch band, you should just get a better watch altogether. There is no point in upgrading a Timex; it's like getting getting a new paint job for your busted pickup instead of getting a nice sedan. These are some great alternatives. 1 2 3 This site is pretty good for cheap straps.

Yep. 20mm spring bar. They're pretty much all created equal. You might as well get something like this and never have to worry about it again, but there are a bunch of options on amazon and elsewhere. Anywhere that sells watches will probably have them if you don't want to wait for shipping.

You also might want a spring-bar tool to put it in. You can do it without a specialized tool but it makes it much easier. I have this one and it works great.

I wouldn't worry about it too much. Don't forgot that the lense of your sunglasses is black which would match the strap. I personally don't like mixing a blackface watch with a brown strap, but I would still look around Cheapest Nato Straps.com. The beauty of NATO straps are they are pretty cheap and interchangeable so you could mix around with them.

As for the comment below about removing the original strap; you don't need to slice. Just get one of these strap removal tool, and you could take it off your self. At most it will take 10 mins. Easy DIY job.

This Bulova would fit what you're looking at pretty well. It is a quartz, but the only reason to get a mechanical watch is if you truly have an interest for one as in actuality, a quartz watch is generally, but not always, more accurate.

Also this Citizen watch might work, however, it has a black face.

Both brands are of good quality and are recommended on /r/watches frequently.

Someone more knowledgeable than me should answer this too, but:

2) This spring bar tool is the one I used, and seems to be perfect for the job. ~$5, prime eligible.

3) From what I've learned today, I guess 17mm could work as it's just being held by that bar, but the 18mm leather straps I have on it now are perfectly flush. It's definitely an "18mm watch". But I guess technically anything narrower will also "fit" on it.

Just bought and started reading Ametora: How Japan Saved American Style. Previously, I read (and enjoyed) Dressing the Man: Mastering the Art of Permanent Fashion.

I'm an American businessman in my late 20's. I want to be creative and forward-thinking but also professional with my fashion choices. I like to have fun with my clothes while still being respectable.

Any book recommendations?

I have a rule, which is, if I am going to spend over $150 on a watch it better well damn have a sapphire face. There are some shit brands out there (Sturhling, Skagen, Invicta) that make watches with sapphire faces for like $200, but usually you are going to have to spend more.

I feel like watches between $150 - $300 are usually not worth it. It's sort of go big or go home. I say this as someone who has tossed a lot of banged up mineral face watches from, Sturhling, Invicta, Citizen, Skagen, etc. (before I knew better). I've also paid a lot of money to have mechanical watches repaired.

I just bought this Citizen. And absolutely love it so far.

Ninja Edit: It is a very nice looking watch though!

Double Secret Ninja Edit: Here is a comparable Citizen in terms of looks

I'd like to second the easy reader, as a super skinny dude myself. I just bought this one, with a brown strap and it sounds a lot like what you're looking for, OP. Also it's super cheap.

I love these too. The Casio F-91W is the classic (and has some interesting history. From what I've seen, though, you should absolutely not buy it at an Urban Outfitters or American Apparel. They will charge you well over twice what it costs on Amazon. (It should be <$10.)

Perhaps more in line with OP's style, though, might be a A158W-1 or a A168W-1 (or one of the 'related items'). Those bracelets class it up a bit.

What I wear most of all though is a Seiko a bit like this, which was a gift from my Grandfather. So 'vintage' digitals like that might be something to look at, although they will be a little more expensive.

There's also /r/watches.

I'd start by saying spring bar tools are cheap, and putting a different band or bracelet on a watch can really change its look. If you find a watch that you want to wear with different outfits, just pick up an additional band or bracelet.

All my watches are stainless steel or titanium, but I don't have a problem wearing them with a blazer with brass buttons, as an example. If I'm wearing a leather strap on my watch, I do avoid mixing black and brown. Black is black, and the point is it's nice and uniform. For brown leathers, I'm not concerned about the shade and some varience there can keep things from getting overly matchy. Can also vary things up with different types of leather, and as watch straps don't require much leather to make, that's a comparatively inexpensive place to add cordovan, stingray, alligator, crocodile, ostrich, tejus lizard, etc. if you want to have some fun with it. As an interesting example, here's what a $75 watch on a $300 strap looks like.

That black-dialed watch on a brown leather strap look sort-of intentionally clashes so you can wear it with whatever.

That's actually a good budget to get a decent entry-level watch.

If you're into a sporty, yet classy look, I would check out dive watches. They're versatile, indestructible, and will look good with most outfits.

I was in the same situation as you, and was deciding between the Orient Mako http://amzn.to/rivjad or the classic Seiko SKX007 http://amzn.to/qbWT5Z. I ended up with the SKX007 because it was unique, and a long time favorite within the watch community.

You can get either one of those <$150 on eBay from trusted sellers. Can't get much more bang for your buck.

Most mink oil will do. I have had great success with this, and this, it also helps that it is free shipping with amazon prime.

There are lots of watches linked to there but they all seem pretty good. And I'll throw in that I got this Orient black Mako on watchyouseek for about $70 used and in perfect condition though it took about a month for the right watch to pop up.

For my brown leather shoes, I use this to apply this. And then I hit it with this. There's a lot of different ways to go about it though. Put This On had an episode dedicated to shoes and they demonstrate how to polish your shoes in the film. I highly recommend checking it out (along with their other videos - very good stuff). Good luck.

I've been wanting a nice, comfortable shoe. I've been on the fence between going cheap[er] with CDBs, because I've heard a lot of good things about their comfort, and these AE Strands. Any chance you can comment further on the comfort of the Strands (or even CDBs if you've worn them)?

Bass is recommended here all the time. For the price, the quality is good and is a great starter for most people. I've had mine for about 6 months and I love them.

Obligatory Clarks Desert Boots. or Stinson His. Both are great, versatile, and comfy as hell. I'd also say look at some nice boat shoes like this or this. If you really want a great pair, also look at Allen Edmonds Shoe Bank for a great deal on 2nd quality. the prices are higher, but you could find a pair in the low 100's on a good enough sale. I really recommend their penny loafers, as they can be worn casually or dressed up.

Looks to me like they're probably a pair of navy bucks. You can find them pretty much anywhere. Bass Buckinghams are pretty well regarded around here, and they come in navy, albeit with a much lighter sole. Their Pasadenas have a darker brown sole. The ones in the picture seem to be someplace in the middle, or maybe a red brick, though they look more brown to me.

Also, just for future reference, questions like this are the reason we have a Simple Questions thread four times a week, including one today!

Honestly, I get the most compliments of any watch I own when I wear this simple Timex Weekender, and because it's so cheap, you can afford to buy a couple of other bands to add versatility. They're clean, go with pretty much every outfit, and work fine.

Would mink oil also be a good fit for the type of leather used on the Clarks Bushacre 2 in beeswax? If so, would it make them a darker brown? I love the boots, but I do wish they were just a tiny bit darker.

I'm sure you're familiar with them, but here are the exact ones just in case.

The Orient Mako is currently at its lowest price EVER on amazon.com

Mine is on the way in the mail, but from the reviews I have read it is an EXCELLENT timepiece at an unbeatable price. It's classy, yet versatile. You could easily take this from the farm, to the beach, to 200m underwater, and right back up to the Met for an opera (Oprah?).

I get that you are looking for more of a street watch but you will regret the purchase of a g-shock as soon as you turn 15.

A good place to start is with some conditioner. Every 2 or 3 months or so it is good to condition your boots, lexol works well: http://www.amazon.com/Lexol-907-Leather-Care-Kit/dp/B005H7DRQA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422498360&sr=8-1&keywords=lexol+leather
Visit /r/goodyearwelt for more care info

Well those are one of the lower end ones outside the 1000 mile line. What you are really going to be missing out on is the Horoween leather found on the entire 1000 mile line. This would be a much better option IMO http://www.amazon.com/Thorogood-Moc-Toe-Boot-Gladiator/dp/B001QJ4I5C/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1346377107&sr=8-3&keywords=thorogood+boots
Sizing for almost all boots is .5 - 1.5 sizes down. I usually buy 1 size down from somewhere with a good return policy and hope for the best.

If your goal is to look fashionable, then just wear what colors are in.

If your goal is to look good, then you absolutely want to coordinate your outfit around the colors and shapes that flatter you. Just like a jacket in the wrong fit can make you look fat, a shirt in the wrong color can make you look pale. If you care about fit, you should care about color.

Entire books have been written on the subject.

Lose the shoes lose the shirt, wear a nice button down preferably something darker to go with the pants find a nice brown belt and some nice leather shoes or something more like this if you want to look extra cool I would prefer you wear a watch with a brown leather strap if you have one, also dont bring the smokes of you unless you KNOW she smokes, I have found girls that don't smoke find that unattractive. Good luck
Edit: Also I recommend you check out the sidebar

Glad I never spent any nominal amount of money on watches. I'm perfectly contented with a nice Casio A158W or F91W-1, no need for me to go over that.

I'd check out Seiko, Orient and Citizen for good brands that make quality watches in the <$200 range.

My daily wear watch is an Orient Mako, which I scored for less than $100 on Amazon. It's solid, has a very reliable and accurate automatic movement (meaning it's a self-winding mechanical watch, rather than battery powered), and it looks amazing.

I would personally recommend that you look for a watch from a reputable manufacturer, rather than buying an overpriced fashion watch. Someone else already mentioned taking a look at /r/watches, which I heartily second.

Yeah, I definitely understand where you're coming from. I just got out, haha.

They aren't as deep a copper, but the Golden Fox Moc Toe has been recommended often over on /r/frugalmalefashion. They run pretty big, so make sure to check into sizing advice. Eastland Lumber Up and Thorogoods are other options at a little bit higher of a price.

Was this what you used?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0002X520S?pc_redir=1404739595&robot_redir=1

I really love the way they turned out in your photos and I think I want to get them and apply the same wax. Great review btw.

This is an awesome boot/leather shoe care kit. Good price and has everything you need.

Good news! This has standard lugs/strap so you should be able to use a number of straps. You'll need a springbar tool to remove that strap (youtube can show you how to use this)

https://www.amazon.com/GGI-Spring-Bar-Tool-Set/dp/B005ZEWGSA/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1495471528&sr=8-7&keywords=spring+bar+tool

Your watch lugs are 22mm apart, so that's the size of strap you'd need.

Any of these NATO straps would work:

https://www.cheapestnatostraps.com/collections/nato/22-mm

These two-piece zulu straps would be cool too:

https://www.cheapestnatostraps.com/collections/smart-watch-straps/22-mm

no need to get a whole new watch when you can just find a strap you like that will be better for the warmer weather.

The ubiquitous Clarks Bushacre 2 is worth mentioning, because you can grab them for less than $70 shipped in the US. I usually wear holes through the soles of shoes within 6-9 months, and while those holes have started showing up at the 10 month mark, the upper is fine even though I don't really take care of them. It's not uncommon for the Bushacres to be on /r/frugalmalefashion for $65. Journeys and Macys carry them for $79-$120. Let me know if you want pictures.

Florsheim and John Varvatos offer some options with a dressier look around the same price, though I can't offer any first hand experience with them.

Browsing through /r/goodyearwelt may be of benefit to you if you're looking for high-quality, made to last footwear. Goodyear welting means the upper is stitched to the midsole, so when the sole wears out a cobbler can replace it. These shoes tend to be pricier, starting around $200 new for the decent stuff with the diminishing returns coming in around the $800 mark for most people, but in general, you get what you pay for.

Here's a great article on chukka options to look into should you decide to spend a bit more.

LL Bean Camp Mocs in dark brown

Orient Mako in black, I wanted to add a nice diver to my collection to swim in and just wear

J. Crew slub cotton sweater

2 J. Crew slim fit shirts

J. Crew oxford shorts in red

3 Mossimo crew neck tees - dark grey, white, mint green (took beacons rec on slim fit white crews and I really like them. Originally went for the white and picked up a couple more)

Wow, wonderful find. Seriously envious. Honestly, I would not worry about the damage much, its hardly noticeable. If they were my boots, I'd clean them with warm water, let dry, and condition/protect with Obenauf's. In fact, this is what I do with my boots in northern Vermont.

This is a casual watch Link but very nice looking. /r/watches recommends it for the low end in terms of an automatic.

Well while I know you aren't using the word formal correctly but not many dress watches can really pass for a really casual watch and vice versa. I'm assuming you are talking about while wearing a suit. Unless you are james bond common practice is to not wear a bracelet watch while wearing a suit. If you were wearing a tux you shouldn't be wearing a watch at all.

Ooph, good purchase! Hopefully you were able to try some on before ordering. I had to buy about a full size down from my usual shoe size. And in case you missed my other comment/haven't considered what/how to care for them here's this copy/pasta: At the suggestion of multiple reddit users, I use this cleaner/conditioner and this brush, which have worked well enough for me.

Get this instead. 100 bucks, great quality, nice movement, and you won't cry when you scrape it against a rock. (you are going diving with this thing, right?)

Came here to recommend the Casio, especially this one. Looks good enough for any situation a college student will be in, and is disposable enough to wear everywhere and not worry about losing at a party or something.

I think a stainless steel watch would suit you better for versatility. For your price range, why not think about getting an Orient or Seiko? I have the former and I love it, I'm also partial to the orange one.

Here are two Citizen dress watches that would be good for your price point. You'd have to have the band replaced to be brown, but I personally think they look great with black straps.

watch 1

watch 2

Timex Easy Reader - $25

Timex Weekender (olive) - $28

Timex Weekender (Black) - $30

and more, and more.


Beats the $40 I bought mine for at Target. Great watches for the price.

Timex Weekender's seem to be the go-to for a lot of people here. I've got two, but I think I'd rather have a Seiko 5, it's an auto (doesn't run on a battery). There's something kinda neat about automatic watches and the Seiko has a really good quality/price ratio.

Thanks! I love the watch/strap combo, I'm guessing it's just the basic Timex Weekender?

Yeah, you'll be fine. It looks like the suede cleaner just stripped all the natural oils out of the leather. Get this or this.

I recommend the Red Wing Beckman. Good semi-lugged sole that works indoors and out, and can definitely handle the elements once you add some Obenauf's. Also, email Revolve once that this is your first order with them and they'll give you 30% off, which gives these a damn good price/quality ratio.

I would highly recommend Thorogood boots. They offer both plain and moc toe versions. You can get a boot that is ~90% Red Wing quality for roughly half the price.

I've had my pair for a little over 18 months now and have put them through 2 Scottish winters, hiking, drunken walks home through brambles, and considerable time in the wood shop. They are still in great condition with only some expected wear to the soles and minor scratching/scuffing on the toes, but the more beat up they get the better they look.

Necklace:
Go on amazon and find a stainless steel chain like this one. Then get some jeweler's wire at your local arts and crafts store to loop charms or whatever you want through the gaps in the links. (Stay away from crosses or Stars of David to avoid the walking cliche who's mother dresses him)

Wrist game:

Three pack of these will give you some color options to play with.

Maybe throw a bead bracelet to get a stack going.

Then blast them with the classic Casio watch to seal the deal.

you don't really need a guide on how to wear jeans and polos. Jeans basically go with any color so go to marshalls or Uniqlo and grab 5-10 polos and oxford button downs in any colors you like. You can stay way under $50 a shirt. probably 1/2 that easily.

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Then get a pair of Clark's Bushacres in beeswax, and maybe something like a Red Wing derby from Nordstorms Rack for casual shoes since you shouldn't wear the same shoes every day.

to me it looks like they have a lot of extra stitching and components. the dr. martens sole looks out of place and the shoe's shape is bulbous.

if you want a less shiny look then maybe look at suede shoes?

i've had good experiences with bass shoes like the pasadena:

http://www.amazon.com/Bass-PASADENA-Mens-Pasadena-Oxford/dp/B009PMADTW?th=0

That is amazing if you are. They unfortunately look like bowling shoes. If you want some nice leather casual shoes, look at chukkas , blucher mocs, bucks, work boots or alternatively some canvas sneakers (vans, converse, pf flyers, superga). Normally when a shoe tries to be both a sneaker and a "dress shoe," it does not end up well.

I created the info graphic myself in photoshop. I can try to help you find links for all the items if you would like.
Here are some links to the items. I couldn't find links for all of them:

OUTERWEAR:

• Goodthreads Men's Lightweight Military Jacket
  
• LL Bean Mountain Classic Anorak
  
• LL Bean Warm-Up Jacket, Fleece Lined (Green)
  
  TOPS:
  
  
• H&M Sweaters (Grey and Green) Not the exact item but closet I could find.
  
• H&M Flannel (Red and Black)
  
• Various Crewneck Tees (Grey, White, Green, Navy)
  
• Goodthreads Men's Slim-fit Long-Sleeve Solid Oxford Shirt
  
• Goodthreads Men's Slim-fit Long-Sleeve Plaid Herringbone Shirt
  
• Goodthreads Men's Long-Sleeve Lightweight Slub Henley
  
  
  BOTTOMS:
  
  
• GAP Black Jeans
  
• Levi 511 Jeans
  
• American Eagle Slim Chinos
  
  
  SHOES:
  
  
• Golden Fox 6" Boondocker Boots (Brown)
  
• Nike Killshot 2 (Off White)
  
• Clarks Men's Bushacre 2 Chukka Boot
  
• Vans Old Skool
  
  

Just got the Red Wing Iron Ranger 8083 the other day. Would something like this work for leather care? What kind of brush should I get? What else do I need to know?

Thanks!

I think this is your best bet:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hamilton-Military-watch-GG-W-113-1988-17-jewel-Swiss-Movement-/111538916788

These are going to be out of your target price range, but maybe you'll be interested to know that there are similar Hamilton vintage watches out there.

• http://www.chrono24.com/en/hamilton/hand-winding-watch--id3042598.htm
  
• http://www.chrono24.com/en/hamilton/classic--id2674912.htm
  
  At that price range for new watches, there are things like the Timex Easy Reader or Weekender with a new strap.
  
  The problem with this price range is that the watch movements that are created by the millions to power these watches usually have a date function included, so most watches that use these inexpensive movements have the date window. As soon as your range is Hamilton and up, you have a lot more options.

It's a lot of money for a quartz watch. You're paying a lot of money to have Armani written on your watch. The Orient bambino in black is around the same price, but is mechanical (40mm):

http://wornandwound.com/2012/08/29/review-orient-bambino-er24004b/

http://www.amazon.com/Orient-ER24004B-Bambino-Automatic-Mechanical/dp/B008VBUZDW

This Citizen is roughly the same look, but is solar, so you won't have to worry about battery changes for a while (37mm):

www.amazon.com/Citizen-BM8240-03E-Eco-Drive-Stainless-Leather/dp/B000EQS1D8/

Seiko has a similar solar (37mm): www.amazon.com/Seiko-SNE049-Stainless-Steel-Solar/dp/B004400ZCK/

42mm can be big, depending on your build/wrist, though big is 'in' right now.

You say you like technology, I have a Citizen Nighthawk which I like. It's big, and the dial can be a bit busy: http://www.jomashop.com/citizen-bj7000-52e.html

What about chronographs? (Stopwatches)

Honestly, I think these shoes are pretty ugly - I don't think the patch on the sides works very well and I think you could get a much more versatile shoe than these.

I'd personally recommend you look at some brown chukkas (CDBs etc), some plain tan bucks (eg Bass Buckinghams) or possibly some camp mocs (eg LL Bean camp mocs)?

These are all a lot cleaner and versatile than the Florsheim; and more often than not simpler looks nicer.

I also have small wrists and avoided watches. GF's parent's got me this watch for xmas and I really like it. I have to tighten it down to the last notch but it fits great. Doesn't need batteries either!

Could someone maybe explain the difference between these Bass oxfords and these Bass oxfords? I'm looking to pick some up & can't ignore the cheaper price tag on the Pasadenas, but the Buckinghams are always the recommended ones.

Thanks!

Can I get a good, concises overview of leather shoe care?

As I understand, it's along the lines of:

• Use cedar shoe trees when not wearing, to help dry them out
  
• Every couple weeks (or however often the shoe needs it) apply some shoe polish
  
• Every month or so apply shoe conditioner
  
  Would this be a good choice for the shoe polish and brush/rag? Then this for the conditioner?
  
  Also, some sites mention applying waterproof paste every year or so. Is that necessary for shoes that don't aren't expected to withstand rain (such as a pair of oxfords, which will readily leak water by the lacing regardless if the rest of the shoe is water proof or not)? If so, what's a good product to use?

:) Haha smoooth!
Yea ive checked them out and decided on something like this. I'm not sure about a watch that's the thing, I'm only 17 and not sure if it will go with the slightly more juvenile look I've got going on

I just bought this TimeX Weekender with an olive band. I normally wear watches with leather straps or rubber, but I have noticed that the holes on this watch seem to really be pulling, even after just a few wears. Using the 3rd hole is much too loose and causes the watch to flop all over my wrist, and using the 4th hole is a much more comfortable fit, but causes the hole to "pull" a fair bit, but it is still loose enough for me to fit my finders under. So I don't understand why this band seems to be doing this, it doesn't feel cheap!

Any ideas?

I'll be honest: those are awful watches. My advice is to eat the $120 and get another brand--Timex, Orient, Seiko, or Citizen are your best bets. Personally, I'd recommend the Orient Blue Mako

I'd suggest Gatsby (pink container). It's strong enough for me to easily mold my straight Asian hair!

If you like it, get it. I've owned this one for about three years now and it's still going strong. It's durable and doesn't feel "cheap".

The MQ-24 is actually fairly well regarded over on /r/watches. Check out some of the comments on it here. The strap is removable if you want to replace it, but personally I don't think a leather strap would fit with its aesthetic.

I got those boots from this image in one of the sidebar guides, where they are in the "cool, mostly dry" weather category.

I don't know exactly what that means, but it doesn't really sound like enough for what I'm hoping my next pair of shoes can endure -- I live in Michigan, and park outside during the winter. I don't need to be able to do shoveling in these or anything, but I do have to sometimes walk through foot-deep snow.

I suppose that this is what you guys are referring to? It looks good to me.

Some basic characteristics of the most everyday watch you can get: no flashiness, silver-colored metal only if there's any metal, simplicity in design, lightweight, and any kind of band except black leather.

Some of MFA's most often mentioned basics: The Timex Weekender, the Timex Easy Reader, and Citizen Eco Drive(you would probably want to replace the black watch band with a brown leather one).

You're not limited to these, however. Some personal favorites are the Orient Sky, the Orient Union, Skagen, and Seiko.

Don't take my examples as a firm limitation, however, there's literally hundreds of good watches out there.

I'm asian and I use Gatsby moving rubber to style my hair in the morning. I'd say its been the best stuff I've used so far and makes your hair smell like green apples

I use Gatsby Moving Rubber. I apply a dab of yellow, spread it over my hands, and stroke my fingers through my hair and try to reach every area. The yellow lasts an entire day, and holds bunches of hair in the right place.

After that, I apply some [pink Gatsby] (http://www.amazon.com/MANDOM-GATSBY-MOVING-RUBBER-SPYKY/dp/B000V2ACH8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1347054673&sr=8-1&keywords=pink+gatsby) to do the details. It's really good at holding smaller bunches of hair, so I use it on the front and on the sides to keep my sideburns from sticking out in awkward directions.

It also helps to shower and blow dry in the morning. I shower every day, but I rarely use shampoo. 2 applications of conditioner seems to do the trick--it keeps my hair nice and soft and shiny all the time.

What does everybody think of this watch? I know it does not have a leather strap, is there anything I can do about that? I really like the minimal look and I want to ease into wearing a watch. Any advice for me?

I'd recommend this one personally:

http://www.christopherward-usa.com/men/dive/view-all-dive/c60-tri-sks.html

or its more expensive GMT counterpart:

http://www.christopherward-usa.com/men/dive/view-all-dive/c60-gmt-soks.html

Hamilton also makes very nice automatics:

http://www.amazon.com/Hamilton-Khaki-Scuba-Automatic-H64515133/dp/B00193CVWW

As does Tissot:

http://www.amazon.com/Tissot-T0664071105700-SeaStar-Black-Automatic/dp/B0051DA9HK/ref=sr_1_4?s=watches&ie=UTF8&qid=1334772771&sr=1-4

Steinhart also has some solid dive watches:

http://www.steinhartwatches.de/en/diver-watch.html

They all use more or less the same movement, the ubiquitous swiss ETA 2824

Or if you want cheap, this is what I'm currently wearing:

http://www.amazon.com/Orient-CEM65001B-Black-Automatic-Watch/dp/B001EWEQ3A

Thanks for the feedback on sizing. It feels good enough considering my oddly shaped feet. I'll look into the brands that you mentioned!

When people say to use Lexol, is this what they're referring to?

Roughly these, though I bought them a year and a half ago before I knew about proper care.

I'm currently thinking this leather care kit, a horsehair brush, and mink oil

What about a shoe like this? https://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Desert-Boot-Beeswax/dp/B000WU6TN0/ref=sr_1_2?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1518577510&sr=1-2&nodeID=7147441011&psd=1&keywords=clarks%2Bchukkas&th=1&psc=1

What does that go with/how comfortable are they to walk around in -- say, walk around a big city for 5-6 hours?

I finally was able to get some dark jeans that I've been searching for forever in buying Levi's 511 Rigid Dragon. However, I do have some newb questions.

Since the jeans are so dark they're practically black, do I treat them like black jeans when matching it with stuff? Do they go with a lighter brown boot like these? I love these jeans but I don't know exactly what to do with them before they get washed and start to fade.

The shirt is definitely too long, and may be a size large overall. If the next size down is too small, look into finding a tailor.

The shoes are kind of abnormally chunky. For a similar look, you may like these, but they're not my cup of tea. I'd recommend these work boots, but go with whatever fits your style.

Wear them with some thick wool socks and they should be plenty warm. I wouldn't wear them to go hiking in snow or anything, but I think they'd be fine for walking through a slush/snow/icy mix. Treat them with leather conditioner before winter.

Been looking for my first pair of boots for the coming fall/work and was looking at these Thorogood boots. Which do you think looks better?

The Moc toe

Or the Plain toe

Thanks

Chippewa Apaches

Thorogood Moc Toes

Irish Setters

Wolverine Eldons

Bass

Cole Haan

I. Love. Boots.

I have wide feet too, and I've found that Bass Pasadena fit's pretty wide, even in the normal width...and it comes in wide too (I've also tried on the Brockton, and it was way too narrow). You can find Pasadena's on a bunch of sites, and I recently saw them on sale for $50 at a Bass outlet. That's a good place to try them on if you have one nearby.

Maybe. Will probably go for their Pasadena shoes if I can not find anything closer to my good old shoes. Thanks!

http://www.amazon.com/Bass-PASADENA-Mens-Pasadena-Oxford/dp/B009PMADTW

Slim, classy, love this one


edit: damn it you got me sucked back into looking at watches, so then there is this, this but switch the band to something nicer, and this if you are willing to hold back your bar tab for another week

It's actually on sale on Amazon right now.

It's supposed to be a good entry-level mechanical watch from a company that manufactures all their parts in-house. It's also a bit of a Submariner look-alike, but for a first watch, it's nice and affordable. Check out the reviews.

Timex - This is the first pair of watch I got. I think it looks really nice and it's very versatile. It's cheap, easy to read, it even has a backlight for dark areas.

So should I use mink oil, or not? Is it for something completely different?

So far, it looks like I'm getting this, this, and this. Should I get a shoe conditioner like this, too?

In casual wear you don't really need to match leathers as much. Though some people prefer too.

Timex are generally good quality for the price point.

A few other options based on your words:

• Casio MQ24-7B2 arabic number face
  
• Casio MQ24-7E dial face
  
• Timex Weekender black face
  
• Timex Weekender with white face
  
• Seiko 5 with navy face

Dressing the Man actually has a good section on how colors complement or hide your complexion. For some (myself, for example), bold and contrasting colors work out really well. Like you, I prefer blue suits (though I have several suits).

Depending on the OP's complexion, charcoal might be a better look but it's really just a preference thing, as you alluded to.

Frugal alternative, but still a fantastic watch: Orient Mako Diver.

Same look, same wet ink blue. Buy a similar band and you're set.

http://www.amazon.com/Orient-Mens-CEM65002D-Automatic-Watch/dp/B001EWEQ3K

Want to purchase a watch and I've decided on the Timex Easy Reader. I can't decide which strap would be more versatile/work better. For reference, I currently own dark brown suede Sperry Topsiders and plan on purchasing the Eastland Yarmouth Camp Moc.

Dark brown: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003QFZZRO/ref=s9_psimh_gw_p241_d13_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1MBQ0KF6W5ZWYW2ZSZY4&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846

Light Brown: http://www.amazon.com/Timex-T20011-Reader-Brown-Leather/dp/B0000TII00/ref=pd_sbs_watch_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=1JHDPS08CJ19078FVBRE

Camp Moc (any advice on fit? I wear size 12 sneaker but probably get 11.5): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001HTABMA/ref=gno_cart_title_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

I personally love my gold and silver watch. Got it from a recommendation on here. http://www.amazon.com/Timex-T20011-Reader-Brown-Leather/dp/B0000TII00/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1319302319&sr=8-3

I'ts not as nice as that one but I've gotten a lot of compliments on it.

Is that really the only requirement? There are soooo many different options in that range. Here a few of my favorite in the area.

Orient Bambino

Orient Mako

Citizen Nighthawk

Seiko Orange Monster

Timex Weekender

Rodina Small Seconds

I can keep going, but more specificity is needed for a better suggestion.

I asked for a copy of Dressing The Man. I heard about it here and hope it's good.

Good to know, thanks. So if I used this one the shoes maybe twice a year:
https://www.amazon.com/Leather-Honey-Conditioner-Since-Half-Pint/dp/B003IS3HV0

They could last for 3-4 years?

Boom. you just use the pointy end to cut the stitching between the patch and the fabric. Super easy to use.

I would like to toss the casio MQ24-1E into the ring for the "cheapest" option for watches, simple, elegant and I receive complements on mine more than you might think.

I've used this as a cure-all so far, and it has never let me down. Perfect on all smooth or rugged leather (although careful with the raw leather, it will become smooth after 2 coats!).

http://www.amazon.com/Leather-Honey-Conditioner-Best-Bottle/dp/B003IS3HV0

May I humbly suggest some $10 alternatives? (not a huge fan of the font)

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This is ok

This is probably best for what you're looking for

Fossil has done me well for the most part, and timex. I have yet to venture into the more expensive watches.

If you want a really cheap watch that works pretty damn well with everything, check this casio out. I bought it recently and have been wearing it a lot. You don't have to worry about scratching, forgetting, or misplacing it since another one is always 2 days and 10 bucks away.

http://www.amazon.com/Citizen-AU1054-54G-Diamond-Drive-Watch/dp/B004JK8ET6/ref=sr_1_14?s=watches&ie=UTF8&qid=1334693334&sr=1-14

http://www.amazon.com/Citizen-BM8240-03E-Eco-Drive-Black-Leather/dp/B000EQS1D8/ref=sr_1_1?s=watches&ie=UTF8&qid=1334693334&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Citizen-AR3015-53E-Eco-Drive-Stiletto-Ion-Plated/dp/B002BWPDE8/ref=sr_1_5?s=watches&ie=UTF8&qid=1334693334&sr=1-5

I went to Amazon and searched "black citizen" and those were all on the first page of results. There isn't really anything wrong with a basic minimalist black watch (although I do think black is overdone, as I said before), but there isn't anything particularly cool or interesting about one either.

I prefer the original Mako: http://www.amazon.com/Orient-Mens-CEM65002D-Automatic-Watch/dp/B001EWEQ3K/ref=pd_sbs_watch_6 (wearing one right now)

I would also suggest digging around on here:

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f71/

People there are really helpful and really into watches.

Cool, I bought this and this, based on your and /u/micrafone_assassin's recommendations. Hopefully these will make the shoes an investment instead of just a splurge

Leather Honey is pretty well reviewed as a leather conditioner: http://www.amazon.com/Leather-Honey-Conditioner-Since-Bottle/dp/B003IS3HV0

Generally, you endeavor to have the watch strap match the colour of your belt and shoes, not the watch itself. I have purchased straps from both Crown and Buckle and Strapped for Time and am more than happy with them. Any jeweler should be able to change straps for you, and you can even buy the tools to do it yourself.

Also, you should be conscious of the physical size of the watch, as you may struggle to fit larger watches under the cuff of a formal shirt. The MVMTs I saw were all 45mm, which is quite large - I'd probably be looking at something in the area of <42mm. Additionally, be conscious of the size of your wrist, as a large watch will dwarf a small wrist.

MVMT are "bauhaus" style watches, which /r/Watches has a primer on here. Skagen and Rodina are bauhaus style watches at a similar pricepoint which are more appropriate to formal wear.

I have this black Citizen Eco-Drive watch.
Now that summer is coming I am thinking of changing the black leather strap to something more casual. Can a black faced watch work with nato straps? which color goes best with it? The black face is making it difficult.

I currently use Gatsby moving rubber and like it a lot. It has good hold and not a lot of shine.
I sometimes use Murray's pomade which has better hold, but is a little shinier and a lot harder to wash out.

the orient mako is the watch you want. Looks stunning with nato straps as well.

Citizen BM8240-03E Eco Drive

I have small wrists, and I just got this watch. It's wonderful. There are many colors to choose from!

http://www.amazon.com/Citizen-BM8240-03E-Eco-Drive-Stainless-Leather/dp/B000EQS1D8

Black Timex Weekender. I got it over a year ago for a trip, since I didn't want to potentially lose my Swiss Army one, but has since become my day to day. The strap is quite comfortable.

Here's an example. I prefer a small, super sharp pair of scissors. Like these.

Nice of you to do this. I could use a more casual band for my new Timex Easyreader.

Flannel Shirt under a grey sweatshirt with dark wash denim and some brown boots.

A nice, simple and appropriate outfit for the occasion.

Mid Pilot Watch

Or the Orient Mako in Black or Blue. If you choose either of these, I think it would be worth buying a leather watch strap. Here's a decent option (its $40 once you sign in)

Also try asking /r/Watches

Edit: Here's a good thread on /r/watches about watches around your budget.

Agreed!

Specifically, I'd suggest the seiko 5 diver, or the orient ray or mako. They are all very solid budget divers.

Yeah it's definitely tedious. I spent probably 2 or 3 hours going over my shoes repeatedly with the cleaner to get all of the Obenauf's off. It was a drag. I used this lexol cleaner and conditioner:

http://www.amazon.com/Lexol-907-Leather-Care-Kit/dp/B005H7DRQA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1395619579&sr=8-3&keywords=lexol+cleaner

I bought these pants online http://bit.ly/NMgKs7 in Breaker Blue and Silver Matte. Will I be able to get away with these shoes http://bit.ly/1dIQBBq that I already have or do I need something lighter.

EDIT: They look extra dark in those pics. Here is amazon with better pictures. http://www.amazon.com/Bass-PASADENA-Mens-Pasadena-Oxford/dp/B009PMADTW

Generally, you can swap metal chain for leather strap - if watch allows it, you can do it. For example, Orient Mako's metal chain can be replaced.

If you do not like black dial (I don't), you would maybe like these:
Orient Blue Mako

Orient's as well as Seiko's are great choice, however I think that watch should be the only piece of jewelery worn by man, and therefore I like them little bit more eye-catching. Blue dial on those Mako's is really nice (it isn't matte, it changes color with different angle of light) and is a sure compliment getter.

Black Mako's are dressier, little more versatile, but imho more dull.

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Nope, they're totally stock except for the mink oil. They're actually cheaper than CDBs too.

Shoe link

Mink oil link

To apply the mink oil I used a blow dryer to heat it up/essentially liquefy it, then used the blow dryer on the shoes to open the pores in the leather. Apply with a soft cloth, wait 15 minutes or so to soak in, then wipe off the excess. Let them dry overnight then you're good!

You can switch out the straps on your current watches with an $8 watch tool, and put NATOs on them. Can't be sure, depending on your watches, whether you'd want to wear them to the beach, but changing out the strap works on any watch and definitely changes the look.

ah yes. I guess I thought you had once since you got the other band off. I have this one and it works fine

I'm being overloaded a bit when looking for boots. That's the last step for me as far as building my basic wardrobe and I just can't decide. I assume buying [these](https://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Beeswax/dp/B000WU6TN0/ref=sr_1_14?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1538090363&sr=1- 14&nodeID=679307011&psd=1&keywords=chukka+boots+mens) are a basic must. Should I also buy another pair of brown boots? Perhaps something like these ?

Let's use a pair of walnut Allen Edmonds.

I recommend:

1. Saphir Wax Polish in any color
   
   
2. Saphir Renovator
   
   
3. Heel & Sole Dressing
   
   
4. Full-Toe Cedar Shoe Trees
   
   
5. Horse Hair Brush

What do you guys think?

• Makr Ruck Sack Gray
  
• Espirit light blue shirt
  
• Levis 511
  
• Clarks Beeswax Dessert Boots
  
• Rayban New wayfer Tortoise 54mm
  
• Timex Men's T20011 Easy Reader Brown Leather Strap Watch
  
  http://imgur.com/a/a1dF8
  
  Something random
  
  http://i.imgur.com/s0dIQmb.jpg

Which is better, the casio or the timex?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000GAYQJ0/ref=gno_cart_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

http://www.amazon.com/Timex-T78587-Silver-Tone-Expansion-Digital/dp/B000B545A0/ref=sr_1_20?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1419041564&sr=1-20&keywords=digital

I have this Casio and have received a lot of compliments on it. There are a lot of similar style available if you just search "Casio watch" on Amazon or something. And it's less than ten bucks.

I would say G shock if you wear more streetwear, Skagen for something kinda dressy, or a Casio like this if you're more hipster. All pretty decent and cheap.

Wow sorry, I could've sworn I replied to this comment. I used Obenauf's Heavy Duty LP. I bought it mainly just to darken my boots, but it doesn't hurt that it also has protective qualities.

Don't make it too complicated.

1. Take a brush to get rid of most of the dirt on them.
   
2. Take a wet rag and rub the boots down (this should get rid of the paint stains, if not be more abrasive with the rag)
   
3. (Optional, but suggested) Apply some sort of leather conditioner / protector (ex.Mink Oil Or Obenhaufs Leather Protector)
   
4. Use a Mr.Clean Magic Eraser (or similar) to clean the wedge sole.
   
   Some of the deeper scuffs may not go away completely, but they add character to the boot.

Maybe http://www.amazon.com/Dressing-Man-Mastering-Permanent-Fashion/dp/0060191449/

thesartorialist is good for inspiration, they cover NY, Paris & Milan.

Also try styleforum, they are all over this. There are members there that seem to wear nothing but Kiton & Boroni.

Flusser's books have long been respected.

It's really easy. The band is attached to the watch with 'spring bars', which are basically pins with ends that are designed to be pushed in a bit so you can take the band off. The easiest way is to get a spring bar tool (http://www.amazon.com/7pc-Watch-Spring-Bar-Tool/dp/B005ZEWGSA $8.15 from Amazon, you can find spring bar tools cheaper). I've also done it with an x-acto knife and a screwdriver, but these run the risk of scratching the watch. There are instructions here: http://www.wikihow.com/Change-a-Watch-Band but you probably can figure it out. One tip is that for leather bands, generally the short end with the buckle is at the top of the watch.

smaller knot and brown pants instead of the blue on blue.

Edit: We can't see your shoes!

I agree with /u/mywifebroughtmehere, a watch is a good accessory. I found some really cheap ones on amazon that are simple and clean looking. I didn't want to buy expensive watches until I had some cheap ones to learn what I want on an expensive watch.

cheap watch 1

cheap watch 2

I see 3 different patterns within a 6in circle from each other. I think you would be better off with a light green pocket square to match your tie. That checkered part on your shirt is weird with the plaid, but I doubt it's visible much when the jacket is on.

Orient mako is my personal favorite

http://www.amazon.com/Orient-CEM65001B-Black-Automatic-Watch/dp/B001EWEQ3A

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000TII00/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 i rock these every day. I get a lot of compliments on it too!

If you're going to buy CDBs (and you should, quality is good and price is affordable for us college students) try Amazon. It's much cheaper.

You could go to Sebago for boat shoes. Docksides
They're unlined.
For suede bucks I would look towards Bass Buckinghams, leather lined. I think it's cowhide.
Both should be good examples of what you're looking for.

Here you go.

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Like everything in life, practice/just doing it a lot. Have an idea of what you want to do, research it, do it, and repeat.

The first tool I became proficient with was the seam ripper.

Thorogood boots are nice

Amazon has this 20% boots deal bringing these Chippewa boots: http://www.amazon.com/Thorogood-American-Heritage-Plain-Toe-Boot/dp/B002QQ8XB4/ref=pd_sbs_shoe_1 and these Thorogood boots: http://www.amazon.com/Thorogood-814-4200-Moc-Toe-Boot/dp/B001QJ4I5C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1383283337&sr=8-1&keywords=thorogood+814-4200 both around 120 dollars. Black Friday is also coming up, and based on boot deals from past years, should I go with the Amazon deal or wait for Black Friday for maybe a $200 pair of Redwings or something of the sort?

Yes, or a Clark's Bushacre 2, which is what I have.

> http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Bushacre-Beeswax-Leather-US/dp/B004DCNN64/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1456953688&sr=8-1&keywords=clark+bushacre+2

they'd definitely work

I did not take care of mine for over a year so the whole boot was scuffed. Here is what I did. First, Lexol Cleaner, then Lexol Conditioner 4 times in 2 days. Once nice and softer again, I just did a quick polish with Kiwi Tan, that one doesn't darken and matches the rest of the boot. They look brand new again and you can't see where the scuffs were located.

You shouldn't need to treat new dress shoes with anything before you wear them. Only exception may be when the shoes have been on the shelves for a while and arrive a bit dried out, at which point you'd just want to condition with something like Lexol and brush them with a horsehair brush.

have you looked at casio watches yet? cheap but it looks classy
P.S I have small wrists as well.

Gatsby works pretty damn well.

I find that it gives my hair an oily appearance. My favorite is this asian stuff called Gatsby.

I use a fairly small amount and it just gives my hair a little bit of shape without looking like there's anything in it.

There's that book everyone got off to like a month ago. Don't remember the name though.

Edit: Here it is

I would try something more durable and lasting like this Citizen Eco drive

I too have small wrists, so I look for watches with a case size around 38mm, 40mm maximum. Something like this works great: http://www.amazon.com/Citizen-BM8240-03E-Eco-Drive-Black-Leather/dp/B000EQS1D8/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS?ie=UTF8&coliid=I2NVK9G5JWP4W6&colid=1110Q0G7APGL7