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> The Liberals are left. Deal with it.

There's a wealth of scholarship to challenge this notion, by myself and others (https://www.amazon.ca/Constant-Libfral-Organized-Canadian-Democratic/dp/0774837136) as well as the fact that wherever the NDP is strong, the Liberals and Conservatives unite to oppose them (this is the case in BC, Manitoba, and Saskatchewan)

And this isn't the party's raison d'etre, but it is a more than plausible outcome in 2019. And the CCF-NDP is the only party outside the original two to not eventually fade away. It may not win federal power, but it has an essential role to play in our politics. It wouldn't be around anymore of this wasn't the case.

If you don't see this, I don't know what to tell you.

Conservatives don't really have much sense of humour. Perusing though my local bookstore selection only reveals scant titles with even a conservative bent, and even then the joke tends to just be "look at this strawman, isn't this ridiculous!" like the Social Justice Warriors handbook or my personal favorite Reasons to vote for democrats which is just an empty book similar to a journal, and that's almost like a joke right -the democrats have no plans, see? But then you realise that someone sold an empty book at full price and the joke is you just wasted your time and money.

You're amazingly optimistic, I'll give you that.

I know I am not eloquent enough (or even picking the right arguments here) to convince you.

I encourage you to read Weapons of Math Destruction: How Big Data Increases Inequality and Threatens Democracy by Cathy O'Neil. She details a lot of the ways that the "data" Big Tech gathers to help governments ends up doing a lot of harm. She's way smarter than I am (and it's a really good book).

If you haven't heard of it i'd recommend Maximum Canada by Doug Sanders which looks at this. though his book focuses far more on population it's quite well written and interesting.

https://www.amazon.ca/Maximum-Canada-Million-Canadians-Enough/dp/073527309X

> He was not an environmentalist. The very idea is ludicrous.

Ludicrous! Preposterous! The very idea!

> And your attempt to cast an innocent girl into the Nazi uniform is really quite out there. Wayyyyy out there.

Yes, when I said I didn’t care what Lindsay Shepard believes, what I actually meant was that I care passionately what she believes, and it’s Nazism.

> She shares no philosophical characteristics with Hitler.

Except the two you just admitted, which is vegetarianism and animal welfare. And in your math, 2=0.

> The fact I like beef doesn't make me Churchill.

There’s a difference between arguing that vegetarianism doesn’t disprove Nazism and that vegetarianism proves Nazism. Keep up, kiddo.

> And Adolph wasn't in a romantic relationship with another ethnicity.

I didn’t claim he was. So, three-for-four? Not that that would’ve changed anything of your opinion anyway, so it’s kind of irrelevant, isn’t it.

> Nor was he ever a SJW.

Now what are you arguing? That Sheperd is an SJW? Or that I am? Or that I’m a Nazi?

> Of course you will, because first of all, that is not what I said, and second of all, you have no effective counter to the argument I did make.

You’re right. Of the tens of thousands of stupid arguments being made on the Internet at any one time, I engage in all of them all the time except the ones I can’t counter.

I feel like I’m competing in the Logic Olympics tonight but the other teams didn’t show up.

Not one I really have seen either, which is why I am making it. It seems ridiculous that a generation ago and before, most North Americans used the term "country" more to refer to Indigenous lands and Aussies do to this day, and "country" is a more apt and politically charged and important term than "territory" any day and like... every ... map ... ever ... is blank from 1492 and back. Even if it is not blank, hardpressed to get any Indigenous presence on the maps at all. And like folks talk about their own countries, folks have names for their own countries, folks know how their own countries can/should/have been run. It is just not talked about in the public or casual sphere

Books!

Secwepemc Book

Unsettling Canada

Roadmap to Recognition for an Aussie perspective

An American Genocide

American Apartheid

Indigenous Diplomacy

Indigenous Experience

Aboriginal Rights Claims and the Making and Remaking of History

White Fragility

The Future of Indigenous Peoples

The Other Slavery

I have also read and used Canadian Federalism

Wild Law

This is anecdotal conjecture and the data doesn't back you up.

I recommend you read this book. It breaks down why Canada votes differently than America.

Actually, that’s the plot of a comic book with this subreddits name as the title.

https://www.amazon.ca/Archie-McPhee-Foil-Hats-Conspiracy/dp/B07C169XZT/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Tinfoil+hats&qid=1550859088&s=gateway&sr=8-1

The fluoride added to the water supply is a WASTE BI-PRODUCT OF THE FERTILIZER AND ALUMINUM MANUFACTURING PROCESS!!!

This article does not make a very compelling case for fluoride IMO. It reads like a propaganda piece for water flouridifcation. Fluoride does not need to be ingested to work so why add it to the water? If there is a chance that it affects children's brains why not air on the side of caution and let people take the supplements as required, like in Europe?

Naturally occurring fluoride in ground water is much different. Please stop using tooth decay as a way to justify forcing people to ingest dangerous industrial chemicals. This dangerous practice might have been needed in the 1900s but I think is greatly unnecessary with the modern dental hygiene methods available in 2019.
fluoride toxicity
The Case Against Flouride

this book is a good look into the way that the poor/working class think. a sociologist embedded herself in the poor US south.

a few takeaways I had were that it's a mixture of short term thinking and allegiance to the companies that have given them jobs. the poor don't think about the social programs that the liberals/NDP/Greens want to implement. They look at their paycheque and how small it is, and then look at how much tax is taken out and think "ah ha! if I just paid less tax I'd be better off" which is true in a way, but obviously not good for them in the long term. when they're living paycheque to paycheque, theyre looking into what can help them today, not what will help them in the long term with social programs if they lose their job or it gets sent overseas.

in a similar way, thats why the poor are so supportive of industry and anti-government intervention and environmental regulations. the poor rely on companies that employ them and can't afford not to be working. so they oppose anything that would disrupt business and put them out of a job. and of course big polluters/manufacturing jobs pay them a wage, so theyre sympathetic to those industries. they may hate things like pollution in their area and that effect on their lives, but they hate not having a paycheque more, so they prioritise that.

essentially, we are thinking big picture/long term, they are thinking small picture/short term.

it's a good read. highly recommended. knowing the way that those that you disagree with think is very useful.

Make an agenda out of something? Welcome to the modern world. And the left is just as guilty as the right. Ever speak with a SJW? The logical fallacies in their arguments abound. Their ability to arrange words in a meaning less catch phrase and then use that phrase as a source in their arguments is dizzying. How much $ did Anita Sarkeesian raise again? As for the right, how did Trump get elected again?

Do I fault the people who practice the Muslim religion for being messed up? Absolutely not. It's difficult to rid one's mind of thought patterns that were beaten into them as a child - and this applies to most religions. Ask me how many beatings I took because I didn't behave properly during mass. It's fucking brainwashing and most religions practice it. Do I hate the practitioners? No. Do I hate the religion (be it muslim, catholic, whatever)? You're goddamned right I do. Call me infidel, baby :)

As to the muslim faith ... One of my core beliefs is that everyone is born equal. I could not possibly care less the colour of one's skin, who they are attracted to, what they identify as, etc ... Now look at a religion that actively discriminates against significant subsets of society. Try being a woman in a muslim state. Read Infidel sometime - https://www.amazon.ca/Infidel-Ayaan-Hirsi-Ali/dp/0743289692?th=1&psc=1&source=googleshopping&locale=en-CA&tag=googcana-20&ref=pd_sl_9mw8lwl9wo_e
Gay in a muslim state? Good fucking luck with that, friend.

What's my point? Simply, it is not discrimination to criticize that which should be criticized. Is it Anti-Semitic for me to say I think the shooting of a doctor by the Israeli Army abhorrent? Am I a misogynist when I point out gaping holes in a SJW's argument? Criticizing that which should be criticized is how we grow as a society. Otherwise we remain ignorant and retain practice(s) that should have been abandoned ages ago.

How do we, as a society, decide what is worthy of critique? Through open and honest debate. Not through silence - be it in the form of #fakenews bullshit or the SJW who claims that I, a CIS gender white (ish) male do not deserve to have my opinion heard or that it does not count. Fuck that noise.

Oh, and for the record - anyone who claims that islam is the religion of peace is either willfully ignorant or a goddamned liar. Christianity doesn't hold any moral ground there either. Spend 2 minutes reading on the crusades ffs.

One final point. Earlier, I (somewhat) equated race discrimination with discrimination due to sex / sexual orientation / or whatever. I have literally no clue as to how a black man feels hearing some neo-nazi fuck throw the n-bomb around. Does that equate to what a gay man feels when he is called ...? I could not begin to guess. My point is that discrimination is discrimination, regardless of form.

Since I'm obviously somewhat wound up, here's something smile worthy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D7ACIY9StQ

edit - missed a word. And here's something that should be interesting, if completely off topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC7p0Upkh34&feature=push-lsb&attr_tag=N1dg6CWkToElr4Lz-6