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I can recommend the grow light I own, this 300W one, I love it to death honestly. I will warn you that the goose neck growlights also found on Amazon are not very powerful at all, they're usually what first comes up when you search for them so they're often bought. But many people on this subreddit don't recommend them because they're so weak. These types of bulbs (and these ones) will also work but usually need multiple pointed on the plants to achieve good results, a reflector/deflector usually helps with the bulbs, too. These lights also work very well but are rather large and work better for a bigger collection. Succulents can handle heat, not like super excessive but they will be fine in like even the 100's F as long as they're not being burnt to a crisp from the sun. It will just dry their soil out faster which isn't a bad thing honestly!

If you do move them outside make sure it's in the shade for the entire day, putting them into more intense light suddenly can burn them. They need to be introduced to more light gradually so they can become used to it slowly. This usually means an hour or two max in gentle morning sun before they're moved to a shadier place for the rest of the day and letting them get used to that schedule and amount of light for a few days before increasing the amount of light they receive and again letting them adjust to the new increase. It can be quite a hassle and there's much less need for it when putting them under growlights I've found, they don't burn they just get stress color very very fast. But even being out in the shade outside 24/7 will be much brighter than indoors even if it's still not enough light for them.

They will definitely feel loose, that's totally normal. Once they establish their roots into the soil better they'll be much sturdier. For now if you need to hold them up with stakes or some rocks around the base of the stems to keep them from falling out or being wobbly that's totally okay. They should feel more secure after their first watering but will still be somewhat wobbly.

Welcome! Happy to help :)

You may like the science of light post, also accessible via the sidebar.

Also, no, lumens will not always help you. More is typically better, but they're not what we use to help people find a grow light.

Firstly, i will assume that your sempervivums are definitely etiolating; let you tell you straight out that these are typically outdoor plants and that even under a grow light, unless it is strong, they will become leggy and flared out. If the grow light is good enough, they'll close back up and produce webs(if its an arachnodeium). However, lights these strong tend to be a bit more expensive.

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I have been told that the Feit bulbs available via Amazon work well as grow lights. You'd need a gooseneck lamp or something else to hold them. I've never used said bulbs, so if you purchase them and find them lacking, please let me know so i can stop suggesting them. I use this, but you said you're looking for a supplemental light, not an exclusive light source(Note that this is more then enough for sempervivums and they're happy under it).

Some people use T5 or T8 fluorescent bulbs - if you decide to do this, purchase HO(High Output) bulbs, with a color temperature around 6500K. Typically, you want 3-4 bulbs, and they need to be /somewhat/ close to the succs. This is typically for a rack of multiple succulents. Lastly, try to avoid purchasing the $20 two/three armed grow lights on Amazon - they are typically VERY weak(not strong enough to prevent echeveria etiolation) and are prone to failure. I'm aware this probably doesn't answer all your questions, but i feel like this post is getting a bit long - if you need further help, feel free to reply and i or someone else can answer!

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EDIT: I'm just gonna add a little bit as i just noticed your bit on spectrums. I find that 'spectrum' lights tend to perform better then led lights which only use red and blue(blurple). I'm not sure if plants utilize infared light, but i have seen that lights which bother to include it typically perform much better - of course, these lights also include multiple other types of LEDs, and so i'm not quite sure.

Hi I am by NO means super knowledgeable about these but since nobody else has given it a shot here we are, haha.

I don't think the wattage of that light is high enough to support plant growth. The spectrum/temperature/K is sufficient, but you need more powerful lights. If that makes sense.

I have used these in tandem with a south-facing window; they are not enough to support my plants without any help, but prevented etiolation in most of my plants: some had to be moved extremely close to grow normally so... (plus I found the purple unpleasant)

I invested recently in this light, which is pricier, but has been supporting the plants on its own -- no window. It's also white which is a lot more pleasant to look at IMO. Note the specs on these and see if you can find something that works for you! Best wishes

Absolutely, I think it would really do some good for them! I recently got my grow lights for my winter / fall set-up and they've been working wonders. I've gotten 2 happy blooms in response and tons of compact growth and sun stress.

I've been using these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RTVD1HJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 They're bright white like natural light and very strong and effective. They can be pretty close to your plants and not scorch them, and produce a moderately warm heat (it never gets to be too much from being on 16 hours) which I've found helps protect them from getting too cold since I keep my apartment kind of chilly!

I've also seen a cheaper option, used as a single lamp bulb by a reddit user in r/haworthia here. It's a lower price point and I nearly got it for a starter grow light. If you're wary of spending too much, I'd recommend this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BRKT56T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_4VprDbKA7T01X they've said a lot of good things about it!

I have been working with some succulents since August. The one I began with is an echeveria (I believe) in the teal pot, and I'm not sure what the others in the red pot are (my friends gifted these to me).
The gifted plants have stretched a great deal since I received them, and I'm not sure if I should propagate the leaves and take cuttings from the top. (I took the top from the echeveria and it seems to be doing quite well! - in the gray pot). I also have leaves I am attempting to propagate. One from a different plant entirely that has grown plenty of roots, and as I just removed it from having its roots in the soil, I noticed it has begun to grow tiny little leaves. (This was not the case as of three or so days ago before I placed the roots under the soil).

The others aren't doing as well. I have sprayed the roots only, daily, of the mystery leaf, but I have stopped recently after reading about dry methods. Should I be doing something differently? (Should I continue watering it? Should I place it back on top of the soil?)

They are in ceramic pots with a drainage hole in the bottom. I typically water the established plants one to two weeks, or I can wait longer if the soil is not completely dry. The leaves are in a plastic smaller tray with soil, and a drainage hole in the bottom.

The potting medium is a prepackaged cactus mix with added perlite.

All of the plants are situated in a west facing window (I don't have a lot of ability to put them anywhere else). I purchased a bulb that was referenced on a blog, and the echeveria seems to be doing fine, but the others in the red pot are stretching a lot. Link to bulb being used

I also have some little buds growing from the stalk of the echeveria I began with. Is it time to remove and replant the largest one? It has little roots!

I'm looking for identification of mystery plant, advice in regards to the stretching/propagation issue, and any advice on the leaves that I am attempting to propagate. Thank you so much for any and all help!

Link to photos

This is the first time I've posted something like this, so if I need to clarify or fix the links, please let me know! Thanks! :)

The wattage should be fine. They're 12.5W but since they're LEDs their equivalent wattage output is 100W which is great. I used similar LED bulbs last winter with pretty comparable specs (12.5W, 6500K temp, 1550 lumens instead of 1520 though) and got really good results. My plants were also in a large south-facing window. These are the bulbs I used. Link is for the US site though.

I ran the lights 12 hours a day and had them about 2-3'' above my plants.

Also, here is what one of my Echeverias looked like after 3 weeks under one of these bulbs to give you an idea of how well they work. After those 3 weeks I put it outside in full-sun and the coloring hasn't changed much from what it was under the bulb (even after several months outside in full-sun) so I'd say it's a pretty good light.

I’ve used a variety of bulbs screwed into lamp bases, both red-blue grow light bulbs, white full spectrum grow light bulbs, and high kelvin cold white CFL bulbs not specifically marketed as being for growing plants.

My experience is that all of the above definitely work...a CFL screwed into a task light and positioned 2” above an 8” pot gave me really nice, compact growth and gorgeous pink tips on my Echeveria ‘Bluebird’. These bulbs. Pros are that they are super affordable and didn’t burn my babies no matter how close they got. Cons are that I felt they reeeeeally needed to be super close to have a good effect.

I’m currently using these white LED grow lights screwed into a floor lamp that leaves the light positioned about 15” away from my succulents and my succs aren’t as compact as I’d like them to be so I’ve ordered some T5s to mount into the shelving instead. They are working great for my other light-loving plants like Pilea and Fiddle Leaf Fig though, where I’m able to position them directly above (~6”) the plants so clearly it does work, it just needs to be closer than it can reach my succulents. Pros are that it looks nicer than a red-blue grow light and won’t make your landlord think you’re growing weed. Cons are that they’re pricey.

I have this red-blue light positioned above my baby Monstera and the fat skank loves it and is going nuts, so Pro is that it works, Con is that the telltale magenta hue of red-blue grow lights is kind of fug (unless you really love magenta I suppose) and will probably make your landlord think you’re growing weed.

Bookshelf: https://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/80279786/#/70263842

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Lights: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B074Y32PFZ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Screen to keep curious pets out: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MR2SZOJ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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I used the self adhesive that came with the screen, but I'd definitely recommend sewing the border and velcro on if you have the means and the talent. Pulling the screen on and off weakens the adhesive for sure. The lights don't make much heat. They are also on a timer that I inherited so I don't have a link for that. But my plants really like it! I have an echeveria lola that has stress colors and lithops on the top shelf propped to be closer that I think are doing fine. They are starting to split on their own which I'm super excited about. My PVN also gets a very dark purple when it was on the middle shelf during the last couple hurricanes that hit the east coast.

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My railing planter was just moved to the bottom shelf for the cold evenings but seeing as I have echeveria and cacti that are doing well under these lights already I'm not too worried.

For large scale, shelving grow light set ups, I like the Durolux Led https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079GJ11ZC/ref=pe_2640190_232748420_TE_item but an LED bulb like this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BRKT56T/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 with an aluminum clamp lamp reflector is nice and adjustable for smaller (and cheaper!) setups.

You can also do yourselves a favor by picking varieties that tolerate low-light light like Crassula, Haworthia, and Gasteria: https://mountaincrestgardens.com/indoor-succulents/

Such a sweet idea. Good luck!

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My lights are in the living room (aka dining room but it's one big room) and I'm pretty sure they'd be considered invasive (red/blue LEDs) 😂 Here's my newest set-up. I just got this rack today so since taking this ive been moving and rearranging everyone to find the perfect spots for each lol.


It really depends on how many plants you have. One arrangement/2-3 smaller plants would do ok with one of these. I'm considering getting one or two of these to supplement for my aeonium kiwi that refuses to develop the pretty stress colors like they do in direct sun. If you have more (5+) I'd suggest a light similar to the one on my lowest shelf--maybe a fixture with 2-4 6500k t5 bulbs. Make sure you get yourself a timer for the light(s) as well! Mine are kept on for 16 hours a day while they're stuck inside for the random cold nights.

I just bought a shelving rack like this one and these lights, but now I'm trying to make sure I set everything up properly and have questions x_x

• How many lights do I need per shelf and where should they be positioned?
  
  • I want to attach one on each side like this, but that would put them 14 in (35.5 cm) apart and might be too far.
    
• Is placing the lights 8 in (20 cm) above the tops of the plants too far?
  
  • I have a tall aloe that I've based one of the shelf heights off of, but the other tall-ish plants on that shelf would be about 8 inches away.
    
• Any advice on acclimating plants to their new lights?
  
  • They've been in an eastern window all year and are looking a bit sad and etiolated. Previous years I'd take them outside during the summer and then they'd be fine over winter, but I wasn't able to get them out this year ;\^;
    
  • They will still be positioned where they can receive what little eastern light they were getting as well.
    
• How long should the lights be left on?
  
  • I'm going to get an outlet timer, but not sure how long these particular lights should be left on.
    
• Should I add a fan for better air circulation?
  
  Thanks for any help! :)

It’s best to put them in a south facing window if you can but theres not much else that can be done. If you’re looking for something cheap in the meantime I highly recommend these bulbs. They’re $10 for 4 bulbs and are pretty inexpensive to run during the day! One bulb is definitely enough to cover the plants in the photo and it’ll fit most light fixtures. I got a big t5 light for my plants and it’s great but my plants don’t have the beautiful stress colors these cfl bulbs gave them

Sure! I used these lights from amazon. I think they are supposed to be for garages but they met the specs I was looking for (CCT: 6500k and 2100+ lumens per square foot per light) and were relatively inexpensive. I have 2 on each shelf connected to eachother by cords that are included in the pack. The pack also comes metal snaps that screw in, but I opted to attach using large command picture hanging strips. I kept the metal brackets just in case the command strips didnt work but so far they have been working great and I dont have to put as many holes in the hutch. Plus I have run the lights for 8 hours straight and can still touch the aluminum housing. I would say after that amount of time its like touching one of those hand warmer packs right when they start. Its kind of hard to see from the pictures but I did have to drill small 5/8th inch holes so the lights could connect as a continuous unit. This was honestly just for me because I am forgetful and have them hooked up to this timer. I also have some mini fans that I would like to put in so I can keep the doors shut... but I havent quite figured that out yet haha

Yes! Do it. I was riding that high for days drilling holes in everything. I know for a fact my boyfriend is hiding mugs and glasses from me but cant prove anything yet.
I bought a big glass fishbowl, drilled a hole and put my fern in it.
You can drill holes in the rims of pots and hang them with twine and s hooks. I’m still realizing the full potential.

For reference, I bought a $40 black and decker hand drill and these drill bits:
https://www.amazon.com/Neiko-00823A-Diamond-Drill-Piece/dp/B00ODSS5NO

I start the drill out on full blast with barely any pressure and then apply greater pressure gradually. Always keep water on it as others mentioned. Hope that’s helpful and good luck :)

I don't know if you're still looking, but I've loved this 40W one. It's $20, it comes in two days, and it's brought out some great colors in all my different plants. It's not the strongest, but I think my plants are happier and I'm actually about to buy a second one. It has a timer feature and can clip onto tables and whatever else. I love it.

TL;DR: Is 2000 lumen (daylight CFL and red & blue LED combined, 4" above the plants, giving 10000~15000 lux) enough for succulents like Echeveria?

The picture is from last week. Now I have about a dozen 2" succulents, in addition to a few successful propagations, including Echeveria hybrids, Lithops, Haworthia hybrids, Baby Toes, Key Lime Plant, Graptopetalum, colorful sedum-looking ones, Baby Necklace, really cute red Jade, Moonstones, ... And hopefully the Oscularia deltoides cutting grows some roots soon.

Unfortunately, my apartment gets almost no sunlight indoor or in the balcony. If the succulents are anywhere near the windows, my cat thinks they are all hers. Thankfully she doesn't play with anything on my desk, and having the chubby leaves on my desk makes me really happy, so I decided to keep the plants on my desk.

The problem is that the plants don't get any sunlight at all. I set up one 23W CFL, 100W-equivalent and one 5W LED grow light right next to each other, about 4 inches above the plants. According to a light meter app on my phone, the plants get 10000~15000lx. Both of the lights are on for 14 hours a day. These are the only light source for the plants, since they don't get any sunlight.

Have anybody tried a setup like this? Would this be enough to keep the succulents happy and healthy? Will the Echeveria hybrids get etiolated? Approximately how many lumens do I need to cover one square foot area?

I've always thought it was pretty junky... I've wanted to get lights to put on the tops of the shelves, so they're directly above the plants and maybe find a new shelf. But these have worked out since November of last year! I started using really cheap LED lights from Walmart, highest wattage equivalency with the highest color spectrum(usually 5000k).

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I now use these:

• Top Row, Left, Directly on Succulent Nursery
  
• Top Row, Middle and Right, It keeps a String Of Pearls happy AF.
  
• All white middle and bottom lights are these.
  
• The only pink light.
  
  The pink light is ok, it keeps the unicorn planter happy, a picture is in that gallery up there, it has lots of pastels. But I personally wouldn't have purchased it. It was a gift. I was *really* impressed with the cree lights, especially the 100watt equiv. light, as my string of pearls has gone absolutely insane!
  
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  Edited to add: This is the lamp I use...

There's a single t5 high output bulb above each shelf. They're around 6500k. Reading some more, I may need two bulbs per shelf, but I'm gonna see how they do for now. but there is room under the shelves for it if I wanted to add more.

The shelf was found on amazon, but I wish I bought the one that my costco had on sale for only $20 more, it was a good bit nicer, but this one is solid wood and not bad looking.

Full view of the setup There's more shelves that would hold more fixtures, but since it's in a living space I didn't want to install a sun right where we spend a good deal of our time. I'll try and post updates in a few days/week, since the propagations have been growing quickly, I should be able to see if they're progressing/happy fairly quickly.

Super easy! With this set of bits , At first I used one from the hardware store that was expensive, but made small holes and took FOREVER.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ODSS5NO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I just have like a 30 dollar drill from Walmart. I put the piece on my door mat on my porch, pour a little water (You don't need a hose but I have about a cup of water and add a little as needed) I start the drilling at an angle and then slowly raise it up until its straight up and down. Having a sticker on the bottom helps to have something for the bit to grab into. I'll try and do a video as it's way easier than the videos I saw on Youtube. You do want to have your hand on the piece though, the only thing I broke was because the drill went through the bottom and swung the piece around, that's before I was doing it on the mat to help with slippage.

This past winter was my first time using grow lights, and I had a good experience with this one. I kept it ~6 inches above my plants, and ran it 15 hrs/day. Some people might recommend a higher wattage (=more intense light), but the 12 watt option was a good fit for me, considering the price and duration that I needed them (only a couple months).

It's warming back up where I live now, so I've actually packed away the grow lights & moved all my plants back outside. Good luck!

I've had great success with these simple grow lights. I'm pleased to say I don't have any etiolated succulents, thanks to these guys, lol. I've had them for close to nine months and liked them so much that I bought another pair of them when I needed more light for my growing succ collection.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07LG39B3M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_4BVphjNfcCm8p

Those usually put out a lot of heat and hot plants are crispy plants. Manufacturers put different ratings for wattage because as bulbs become more efficient you can get the same lighting effect with less power draw... it’s all in the name of energy efficiency. In terms of cheap bulbs the ones below have pretty good specs and a few people here have had great results with them
Philips 433557 100-watt Equivalent, Bright White (6500K) 23 Watt Spiral CFL Light Bulb, 4-Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M6SR1JM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_W6lhAb0WCK6KM

At around that price (maybe a little more) I really like these.

https://www.amazon.com/d/Grow-Light-Fixtures/Including-Extendable-Greenhouse-Installation-4-Strip-Kit/B074Y32PFZ/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1543410352&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=litever+grow+light&dpPl=1&dpID=51jwhBnvSFL&ref=plSrch

They don’t put out a ton of heat, which is good because you really want your plants pretty close to them. I have six sets and they work pretty well. Good luck!

I'm looking at getting [grow lights from amazon] (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07FF7C7KF/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=AWAF1NHJQCE18&psc=1) as suggested multiple times in this thread and on this sub. If I attach them to a shelving unit, say 2 lights per shelf on four shelves, how bright will this be? Could I set this up in my home office and still sit in there and work during the day, or will it be much too bright for me?

Also, can I set up a shelving unit like that with grow lights in a spot that gets minimal natural light? Right now my succs are spread out on windowsills throughout my house, but I'm running out of room and even my brightest southern window does not get much bright light in zone 4b. The only spot I have to put a shelf like this is in the back of a room that gets some evening (west) light.

Thanks!

My recommendation is to buy a cheap reflector lamp and a high wattage grow bulb. If you want to go nicer (and more expensive) spring for a nice T5 bulb setup. As a first step, I would just do something like what I post below. It is effective and cheap. I really recommend not getting one of those tiny LED ones because they usually are super low power and help your plant less for your money.

https://www.amazon.com/Full-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Light-60W32/dp/B01L0GV2ZY/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1493998601&sr=8-3&keywords=grow+bulbs+60+watt

https://www.amazon.com/Simple-Deluxe-HIWKLTCLAMPLIGHTM-8-5-Inch-Reflector/dp/B01E9IY6US/ref=sr_1_2?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1493998736&sr=1-2&keywords=reflector+lamp

I got them both on amazon! The top lights are: KINGBO Newest 50W Led Grow Light Bulb for Indoor Plants, Super Bright 100 LEDs Sunlike Full Spectrum Grow Lamp White, Dual Head Gooseneck Desk Plant Light with 2-Switch, Replaceable Bulb (2019 Update) https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07LG39B3M/ref=ya_aw_oh_bia_dp?ie=UTF8&psc=1#

The purple lights are: from Brite labs and have a timer with adjustable light intensities
https://www.amazon.com/Brite-Labs/b/ref=bl_dp_s_mw_19491218011?ie=UTF8&node=19491218011&field-lbr_brands_browse-bin=Brite+Labs

Happy planting! 💜

Are those all stretched as well? And I have one of those LED clamp strips, but I use them on props and baby succulents. My mature plants stretched when I used those. I personally don't find them strong enough and would stay away from that specific lamp.

The red blue LEDS are still worth looking into, but something more like this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B071XHQQWF/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8

https://www.amazon.com/VIPARSPECTRA-Reflector-Spectrum-Indoor-Plants/dp/B01B4GQ6MO

Or T5 High Output (HO) 6500k bulbs. Comes in 2ft and 4ft lengths. It provides more than adequate lumens (2000lm +). Amazon, Home Depot, and Lowe's are good for those.

LED saves you money in the long run. But initially the cheapest option would be CFL bulbs (6500k 60watt) in aluminum lamps!

I've been browsing the grow light thread and thinking about getting more succulents before winter, and would like some input on which setup seems better or if you would recommend something else entirely. This adjustable growlight which has a gooseneck and clip (also comes with option for timer) or this bulb and this clamp light? I currently don't have many succulents at all (which obviously can change) so I don't need the light to cover a huge area. Should I set up a specific area to do this with shelving etc (please recommend if so) or is on top of a cedar chest on trays fine?

I'm pretty new to this and appreciate any advice I can get here.

Ok, so the top picture is from March 10th, the bottom one is a month later, so they've all been under the grow lights I purchased for about a month. Most everyone seems to be happy (my sedeveria letizia is struggling, but that's a different issue, I've not gotten her watering down yet) and the two girls in the middle there have each sprouted two buds and flowered! Wondering if anyone can ID the flowering cutey in the back (hoping now that she's flowered it might be easier).

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The lights I purchased are these: https://www.amazon.com/Relassy-Spectrum-Gooseneck-Replaceable-Professional/dp/B07C68N7PC/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_3?keywords=grow+light+relassy+45w+sunlike&qid=1555078123&s=gateway&sr=8-3-fkmrnull if anyone is interested, I know people have asked for grow light recommendations and these have done pretty well for me so far. The lights are about 6-8" away from the plants.

For succulents, you don't want a humidifier. They want dry air to begin with (with exceptions for a handful of tropical succulents/cacti like christmas cactus), and during colder weather with less sunlight they do best with even drier conditions.

Having a north facing window means virtually no UV light from sunlight, so your plants will likely be dormant. This means very slow to no growth, little to no chlorophyll (usually exhibited by darker coloration), and very low water requirements. Due to the lack of chlorophyll, some succulents will even stop absorbing water and actually shrivel to conserve energy. Balloon cactus and Paper-spine cactus are some notable examples of this behavior.

Considering you're in the midwest with a north facing window, succulents would struggle during the summer too and probably etiolate badly. I would definitely recommend getting a UV light. There's some pretty decent and cheap LED bulbs on Amazon that will work well. In my experience, Taotronics bulbs are pretty cost effective for a small setup with just a few plants. Just make sure you check the light range and that they produce UV light.

Sepcifically, I've used this one to positive effect for covering a 2"x2" area: http://www.amazon.com/Efficient-Hydroponic-TaoTronics-Greenhouse-Combination/dp/B00GNWK2XO

For 6 small pots, maybe a clamp light set up would work for you. Something like this, with this kind of bulb. The key is to get about 2,000 lumens per sqft if you want really tight growth and sunstress colors, though you can certainly go lower.

If you think you'll need more room, then I highly recommend a shelf set up. This is mine, it's just an ikea stand with a bunch of shop lights attached to each shelf.

The truth is you don't need to buy lights specifically advertised as "grow lights" or "full spectrum" lights. Just check that it's around 5,000k color temperature, and puts out about 2,000 lumens. This info should be on the packaging. Good luck!!

I totally understand, I haven’t had to do the big chop myself yet, but it’s something that will probably have to happen in the future lol.

I’ve been using this one that’s pretty good. It brought out stress coloring in my succulents so it’s strong enough if you put it really close https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C68N7PC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_zOj0DbHYF72TS If you have a lot of succulents/plants I wouldn’t recommend this style of grow lamp because it doesn’t cover too much area.

If you wanna go the most inexpensive route you can get a grow light bulb and put it in one of your lamps.

There’s a lot of posts on this subreddit asking for grow light recommendations. You can browse through those to get some suggestions! :)

that would be fine, but I prefer grow lights that have colored LEDs in order to help my plants produce chlorophyll. a cheaper alternative that I’ve had for abt a year is this: ankace grow light . This is the best one I’ve tried!! :)) hope this helps

Yeah mines definitely not there yet either lol

I’ve picked up fallen leaves at Home Depot twice and now I have a lot of them that I’m going to try to grow! I’m sure he will be impressed when/if they grow!

Someone here linked some bulbs that were 4/$10 on amazon and I think they could go into a regular lamp you might already have!

Edit: these

Philips 433557 100-watt Equivalent, Bright White (6500K) 23 Watt Spiral CFL Light Bulb, 4-Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M6SR1JM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_Gy2eAbN1WVNB5

I have the one you linked. I think it's okay but probably not bright enough for my succulents and cacti to thrive throughout the winter. I've mostly been using them for my succulent props though and they do great under it. I recently bought this lightbulb and this fixture to use on a few of my succulents for the winter. I read that you need a fluorescent light bulb with at least 6500K. I'm hoping this setup works because I can't afford anything much more than that for my plants lol.

I'm not OP but I have a similar setup in my apartment. It's not as nice as OPs but it's working well for me.

I have a floating shelf with a 2 ft T5 light hung above it on an electrical timer. It's hard to see in my picture but it's quite bright. I think it looks pretty nice and allows me to keep a small collection on display (I have the shelf right at eye level).

http://i.imgur.com/29lfZ5X.jpg

For anything I find that doesn’t have holes, I use some diamond tipped drill bits to drill holes. So far, most coffee mugs are super easy, but I’ve only done one ceramic pot, and it worked out well enough. I use this technique with drill bits like these.

Besides that, make sure your arrangements contain compatible plants: similar watering, similar light needs, dormancy, etc, and you should be good!

If you look on Amazon there are LOTS AND LOTS of grow lights. I have bought several. I have had good luck with the LED grow lights. They are more energy efficient and the plants seem to do well. If you get some just make sure they are FULL SPECTRUM.


You can also get flourescent T5 grow lights. They do fine but just use more energy. They also tend to run hotter so be aware of how close they are to your plants so they don't burn.
Here's some links to check out.


2-Pack T5 HO Grow Light - 1 Bulb Light System - Fluorescent Hydroponic Indoor Fixture Bloom Veg Daisy Chain with Bulbs (2 Foot & w/Reflector (DL8021R 2pack), Cool White | Vegetative) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XPKQPSL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_AH8ZCbAC10EX4


Winjoy Grow Light, 30W LED Grow Lamp Bulbs Plant Lights Full Spectrum, Auto ON & Off with 3/6/12H Timer 5 Dimmable Levels Clip-On Desk Grow Lamp for Indoor Plants https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JLJFWNY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_vI8ZCbNC3C5D4


JCBritw LED Grow Light for Indoor Plants Full Spectrum UV Red Blue 100W Pro B Plant Grow Lamp Panel Bulbs Greenhouse Hydroponic Hanging Kit for Seedlings,Veg and Flower https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GWTT39T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_XI8ZCb2E7EYCN

I have one like that on some plants that aren't succulents and it's going really well. I just stuck some succulents under it too so we'll see how that goes. However, I have most of my succulents under this. It's super cheap, you just need a CFL lightbulb that has a "daylight" color (between 5000k-6500k) and is the equivalent of a 75 or higher watt bulb. Something like this (this is a four pack). You could get two of the one I use, plus light bulbs, for less than the one you linked too. And the clasp on the one I linked to is much stronger and bigger than on the LED light, so it's easier to attach in more places.

Edit to add that the clamp lamp with the reflector has a cord and an on-off switch. The picture makes it look like it's just a reflector and that you need to buy your own cord for the lightbulb.

I've had great success with it once I got the hang of it. I have two of them on a timer for 15 hours a day (since it is summer) and my plants are super happy. They don't get really any light besides that from the grow lights and I have almost 0 etiolation except on the props that stay on the wrong shelf for too long. https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-light-Hydropoics-Greenhouse-Organic/dp/B00GNWK2XO

I'm not the person you asked, but I've been using these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IVQ96KY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

So far EVERYTHING I put under them does fantastic. I have apple seeds that sprouted really fast, I have succulents, I have a few flowers and things that don't like too much cold. Everything is doing super well.

these from amazon. they work pretty good IMO. I’ve had them since September and my plants love them! Another Redditor recommended them on this sub.

Sorry to be highjacking your post but my girlfriend has a desert rose and I want to give it a boost and was looking at this grow light. Can anyone offer advice on whether or not this is a good idea or have a better suggestion? Thanks!

I'm gonna quote what I wrote about my set-up in another thread. Small, cheap, and can clamp anywhere. Good luck!

> Very, very basic. I only got into succulents about two months ago, so keep in mind I'm very much a beginner.
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> Right now, I have three clamp lamps with these bulbs, clipped onto a leaning desk. It's pretty cheap and seems to be working out for me so far, judging by the compact new growth on my light-hungry Echeverias. But I'm running out of grow-light room! I've been debating upgrading to one of these or simply just buying another clamp lamp to cover more surface area (since I know my addiction will eventually lead to me buying more babies).

Amazon! A small clamp light and a light bulb that hopefully matches the best specs for a good grow light! It took me a couple tries to find one small enough to not blind everyone around my desk too, and I went off of suggestions to get one with 30W+, 6500K, and 2000+ lumens.

I commented about this the other day on /r/houseplants but This is my winter setup, it aint pretty but it was pretty cheap.

IKEA Clamp Lamp
got mine on sale for $7

Socket Extender $2.74

Twin Socket Adapter $2.48

Phillips 6500k CFL Bulbs 4 pack for 10 bucks

Aluminum Roasting Pan Found in any supermarket, got mine for 89 cents

All told it was about $15 for each rig. I've set up 2 so far and they've worked great.

If you want to pretty it up you can swap out the roasting pan for sheet aluminum but you'd have to shape it and cut it so it would involve more tools.

I was in the same position few weeks ago till I read this post


Son bought me 3 of these lamps and my plants couldn't be happier.


Another post which is very helpful to get a grasp of lighting.


Good luck and Happy New Year!

It would depend on your space, but I have clamp lights with bright white CFLs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M6SR1JM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_za9PBb89MW8HR (I'm on mobile - sorry for no formatting) and most plants are doing great with it. There's only one Echeveria that's etiolated but that's because I have the lights very high. Investing in a cheap grow light will be good for when winter comes.

Since I currently only have a small collection I dont feel the need for a big T5 tube installation and these type of reflectors from amazon are heavily used and recommended on this sub I thought they would be perfect. But its almost impossible to find similar ones in europe for acceptable prices.

I have found one similar in my local pet shop but then its not a clamp light but hanging on a cord from the roof type. And it was rebranded as a reptile lamp for terrariums and had the premium price of 55 usd :O and compared to the 8 usd from amazon or even the 5 usd from walmart it seems like an awful idea.

Appreciate any help!

I hate the purple glare of most LED grow lights, to me it ruins the aesthetic of my pretty plants. I think that far north, being too close to the window might be a little risky depending on the plant, some are cold tolerant, some are not. I have a couple smaller setups like on tables and my mantle where I use a little double headed white LED grow light from Amazon. These are the ones I have:

LED Grow Light for Indoor Plant, Relassy 45W Sunlike Full Spectrum Grow Lamp, Dual Head Gooseneck Plant Ligh with Replaceable Bulb,Double Switch, Professional for Seedling Growing Blooming Fruiting https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C68N7PC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_qArSBbGAK8ZMQ

They're pretty small and easy to move around lol I'll shove plants in every single nook and cranny possible and these are perfect for that. The bummer about having these scattered about is that you have to do a little marathon twice a day flipping them all on and off as opposed to one big rack setup.

I use this light in my setup and my succulents are super cool. No elongation or anything. Also it's super cheap and screws in. Great beginner bulb. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GNWK2XO?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01

I got these recently and I’m pretty happy with them! I have 3 on my shelf with my more light hungry succs. 2 on one shelf with my less light hungry, and 1 on my prop shelf. I got them because in my sunniest spot they were still etiolating. New growth is all compact now, and even a little sunstress and some blooms! The lights are about 6-10in above my plants..

These are probably too long for that shelf tho. I know Barrina has 2ft lights like this that are actually made for plants but I’m not sure if the specs are right for succs. My lights stick out past my shelf so it’s not the prettiest but it’s functional. From my understanding the cheap clip plant lights from amazon don’t really do much of anything.


(Pack of 6) Barrina LED T5 Integrated Single Fixture, 4FT, 2200lm, 6500K (Super Bright White), 20W, Utility Shop Light, Ceiling and Under Cabinet Light, Corded electric with built-in ON/OFF switch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HBT3BVM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ghNFDbAW91XJR

I got these light bulbs: Philips 433557 23W 100-watt T2 Twister 6500K CFL Light Bulb, 4-Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M6SR1JM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_w7S66nIcszAao

And these clamp lights: Woods 0151 150-Watt Clamp Light with 8.5-Inch Reflector and 18/2 SPT 6-Foot-Cord https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000HHQ94C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_HJwGKAbobQUct

I'm still a newbie, but they are loving the set up - my Aloe "pink blush" is significantly more pink than two weeks ago when I purchased it.

I'm no expert, I just recommend starting out with the lights at least 8 inches away and gradually moving them closer. They don't get hot which is nice!

I have these lights with this shelf and it's been working well so far! You should/can spend more money on the growlights, they're a bit cheap feeling so idk if they'll last. But it's a pretty good setup for <$100 for a cheap college student like me!

I'm shopping for an office setup for a couple of specimens of Stapelia: S. hirsuta and S.grandifola. Thanks to those who provided some early feedback on what I'd need.

Specifically, I'm going to be buying a grow-light for my office. I anticipate having a total of 3 succulents, each in 6" or 8" clay pots. Substrate will be Bonsai Jack Succulent Cactus Soil Gritty Mix #111 -- the relative high cost of this soil is OK since I won't need much, and I'm hoping for a good setup.

I'm having difficulty picking a grow light. For several reasons, I want to go with LED grow lights, and not fluorescent tubes. What I need help with is the wattage of lighting that I'll need; I want sufficient light, but don't want to fry the plants.

I'm thinking about this 100W grow LED bulb, which I'll mount over the plants. Is this a good wattage, or should I be looking at something like this 300W enclosed LED kit?

Thanks! -- Dan

Howdy! I recently purchased this light: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C68N7PC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_0isQDb6R1XGPH

Is it strong enough? I definitely see notable growth in the two weeks that I’ve had it, but this fella seems like he might be getting leggy growth. I decided to move the lights even closer.

Hey everyone! We are getting ready to move, and my plants are going to be moving out into the garage, and have a question about lighting.

We are planning on redoing my lighting set up.I found these on Amazon. According to the specs, these should be just fine right? 6500k light spectrum, 2200 lumen per light.

They're a lot smaller than buying an entire light fixture and bulbs, last much longer than a CFL or T5 bulb, cost less, and are cheaper. I don't see why these wouldn't work, but I thought I'd get some other opinions, thank you! :)

That's kind of hard to gauge since it's a grow light, but the bulb is 1 foot above the table surface and my haworthia's are 9 inches away from what you would consider the "hot spot". I've had good growth from everyone so far but this guy is the first one to throw out a flower. :) This photo might make sense of the placement description.

https://i.imgur.com/SV9AFIO.jpg

And in case anyone wants to know which grow light it is, I got you.

I'm looking for some grow lights for a variety of succulents that have recently sprouted from seeds (mostly Echeveria with some Pachyphytum and some Sedum varieties). I live in an apartment with decent lighting and east facing windows, and currently am supplementing light for 10-12 hours a day with a cheap Amazon LED (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PYFTHMW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1).


However, I know as I get into the winter that I would like the option to use blackout curtains to maintain the heat in my apartment and would like some recommendations for primary grow lights. Currently, I'm using the pedestal arrangement because the plants are not in any sort of shelving, but rather on one large counter.

I am willing to get shelving, but would rather not mount anything into the ceilings as I live in a rental currently. I live in the 6b hardiness zone and will be using a bottom heating pad in the colder months as I'm not sure how warm I'll be keeping my apartment.

Any help would be appreciated :D

4 Packs T8 LED Light Tube, 2FT 20W,2400lm, 6500K Cool White Clear Cover,Dual V-Shape,Linkable Integrated Fixture,2Ft LED Shop Light for Cabinet Lights Garage,Warehouse https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07L1QJTFL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_pIFYDbFYM3W71

They've been really great for my light hog echeverias ;)

I bought these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ODSS5NO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
They work great, just remember to spritz with water often while you drill so you don't strip the bit! I'd suggest watching a few youtube videos so you can get a good idea of how to do the actual drilling part, but it's super easy and I have yet to wreck a pot while drilling a hole.

Does anyone have thoughts or experience with these grow lights?
What are your preferred lights for the best price for a larger collection?

https://www.amazon.com/Barrina-Integrated-Fixture-Utility-Electric/dp/B01HBT3BVM/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?keywords=6500k+led+light&qid=1571371822&sr=8-6

I have a very large collection that I’ve accumulated most of over the last few months and need to buy many of this type of grow light or a few large ones. I’m not sure if I’m going to do a table(s) or shelf setup or a combo of both. Any and all thoughts and advice welcomed and appreciated.

It looks like it would benefit from it too for sure. Harder to notice on these kinds as they naturally have some stem showing. I'd try getting something simple from Amazon like this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00GNWK2XO/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1480457431&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=grow+light

I have two of these lights

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01IVQ96KY?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

They are not powerful at all, they meet none of the standards that people recommend. But I’ll be darn if they don’t work just fine. You have to have the light within inches of the plant. I mostly wanted something to prevent stretching since I’m in Ohio and we have very dark days ahead of us. But to my surprise they brought out some cool colors that I hadn’t achieved even after months of being in the sunniest window. I have them hanging under a desk and the plants are on the floor.

My set up is pretty basic at the moment, I have a simple desk lamp with a daylight bulb in aiming down at my plants. I can't find the bulb I'm using online, but it's very similar to this one: https://www.amazon.com/Philips-433557-100-watt-Equivalent-Bright/dp/B00M6SR1JM/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1511785806&sr=1-1&keywords=philips+6500k
I'm currently in the process of hacking two Ikea desk lamps to hang above the shelf I'd like to display my plants on. I'll post pics when it's done! :)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07C68N7PC/ref=cm_cr_othr_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8#cm_cr_carousel_images_section

These ones, I bought it mainly because the price was affordable and setup is easy. If I had the money I would use T5 growlights. These lights are okay though, if close enough to the plants it causes pretty nice stress coloring and compact growth.

I just bought this based off of another redditors opinion.

iPower 54W 4 Feet 2-Bulbs T5 Grow Light System with Stand Rack for Plant Growing, 6400K https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01E9IO770/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_GLbTzb84A2H5C

I also have two of these and they seemed to work pretty well last year:

TaoTronics Led Grow lights Bulb , Grow Lights for Indoor Plants, Grow Lamp for Hydroponics Greenhouse Organic, Plant Lights ( E26 12w 3 Bands) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GNWK2XO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_hNbTzbGJS8TFB

I also saw somebody posting this the other day and basically outlined a wire rack with it. So cool!

ABelle LED Strip Light Plant Grow Lights 16.4ft 5050 SMD Waterproof Full Spectrum Red Blue 4:1 Growing Lamp for Aquarium Greenhouse Hydroponic Plant Garden Flowers (5 M) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NAC7ZOC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_lObTzbWHR06R5

These are the lights and These are the smart outlets I ended up getting, based on tips from other redditors. I have two pairs of lights and two smart outlets, both configured to run 4hrs on and 10 minutes off all day.

So far the regrowth of my e.metallica is looking really good, as was my water logged e.prolifica. I have a ton of baby succs and they all seem to be doing fine. It's only been about a month but so far so good. Even the props below are looking good, as does my wife's orchid (hopefully it blooms again next year).

I can't thank everyone enough for their words of encouragement and incitful tips. My biggest takeaways.

1. My porch wasn't cutting it as morning sun wasn't bright enough and 5 hours of sunlight wasn't enough.
   
   
2. My sole east facing window in my apartment was ok-ish, but because the glass is 2-pane a ton of light is getting cut off.
   
   Based on this I opted to just get grow lights. I plan to decorate the house with these guys once they've had enough time to soak it in, and will move them back when they begin to show signs of stretching.

I use this mix: https://www.amazon.com/Quarts-Bonsai-Succulent-Cactus-Gritty/dp/B0194E9RW4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1524862302&sr=8-1&keywords=bonzai+jack

It is pricey, so I mix a little cactus/succulent soil into it(just the regular bagged kind that's cheap) to make it last.

Using this grow light 16 hours a day(it also goes over a few other plants): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074SG33M2/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

You can probably find a better value grow light honestly. The reason I got it was because my husband was tired of the pink lights in our living room, and I didn't want to deal with getting too into other types of setups. This one is unobtrusive and pleasing to the eye.

Hi friends! I'm looking at these lights for my collection. This is my first time playing with grow lights, so any insight or advice is greatly appreciated!

Here is my current (year-round) setup! I moved into a new apartment with only north and west facing windows, and nothing was getting enough light. So recently I upgraded my setup.

• [Shelf] (https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-3-Shelf-Shelving-Unit-Chrome/dp/B01M0XLTT5)
  
  
• Lights
  
  
• Timer
  
  I have the lights on for about 12 hours a day.
  
  I used to have a clamp lamp with CFL, and that worked for a bit, but I was trying to squeeze too many plants under it so they started to get etiolated. In comparison, these lights are amazing. You can see that some of the plants were etiolated but are now growing compactly!

I just got my first set myself. I'm going to get these to try though. They have good reviews.

(Pack of 8) Kihung Under Cabinet Light 2ft,10W,1100lm,6500K (Super Bright White),Utility led Shop Light, LED Ceiling Light and T5 LED Tube Light Fixture, Corded Electric with Built-in ON/Off Switch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FF7C7KF/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_jhxADbDSXK3YK

I love it!! Are these the lights you have?

(Pack of 6) Barrina LED T5 Integrated Single Fixture, 4FT, 2200lm, 6500K (Super Bright White), 20W, Utility Shop Light, Ceiling and Under Cabinet Light, Corded electric with built-in ON/OFF switch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HBT3BVM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_3RoTCbTQZNM8K

For my succulents I use Bonsai Jack Gritty Mix , which is pre-mixed and ready to use although a bit pricey. For my snake plants which are a bit less picky, I mix 50/50 sand/vermiculite. There are guides to making soilless mixes online, but some of them recommend using peat moss which actually attracts fungus gnats.

Philips 23 watt 6500k CFL bulbs (you can also pick these up at your local home improvement store): https://www.amazon.com/Philips-433557-100-watt-Equivalent-Bright/dp/B00M6SR1JM/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=philips+23+watt+cfl&qid=1550422990&s=gateway&sr=8-3

And don't forget clamp lamps: https://www.amazon.com/Woods-0169-169-Clamp-Light/dp/B009ONXWC2/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?keywords=clamp+lamps&qid=1550423123&s=hi&sr=1-2-spons&psc=1

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Depending on how much space you have for a decent setup, you might want to consider T5 light bulbs and fixtures if you want more even distribution of light. I find that I have to put all my succulents together under or around the the lamp in order to get good growth and stress colors out of them. As long as the light bulbs are on or around 6500K (cool white light) then your plants will get the right amount of light that they would get if they had some sunlight.

So I started with several of these and they did absolutely nothing: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E79J9HE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Then I went to these fixtures and they were better than the clip lights above:

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HHQ94C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

With these bulbs:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B015G9N3S0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Now, I'm using this for most of them:
http://www.gardeners.com/buy/stack-n-grow-light-system/8590134RS.html#start=2
This came with T5HO bulbs - I found it on clearance or I wouldn't have been able to afford it.

And, I'm using this: http://www.horticulturesource.com/product_info.php?products_id=18197&gclid=CPTjkKW2uNECFdWLswod5ngIyA

for my tall Crassula compacta - this light is my favorite!

They need to be relatively close to be effective as far as I've read but it's worth it. It doesn't have to be elaborate just a bulb like this (you want it to be 6500k) and a desk lamp or clamp light .

I would try repotting in a very gritty mix like this stuff and leaving it alone for a couple of weeks without water then watering from the bottom to encourage more root growth.

I understand. So if I can find a light with high kelvins and high lumens then it should be good right? I'm considering both of these. Which one do you think would work better?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0721TG86M/ref=psdc_14252961_t1_B01L6EZUBM

https://www.amazon.com/V-Shape-Linkable-Integrated-Fixture-Warehouse/dp/B07L1QJTFL/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&ref_=psdcmw_2314207011_t1_B07N2CPTJJ

I bought it off of amazon, it's a T5 grow light which hangs from my ceiling and it measure 2ft! Perfect for my little apartment :)

Thank you! Here's the link to the lights I'm using 4 Packs T8 LED Light Tube, 2FT 20W,2400lm, 6500K Cool White Clear Cover,Dual V-Shape,Linkable Integrated Fixture,2Ft LED Shop Light for Cabinet Lights Garage,Warehouse https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07L1QJTFL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_nxrKDbH90MNW3

I have a wide variety of succulents and I'm worried about how to make sure they get the right amount of light. I have IDs for about 2/3rds of my 50 plants. My main worry is my split rock collection and my lithops since they're my favorites, but I really want everyone to make it through winter. Should I get everyone ID'd and try to find more specific instructions?

We're in the middle of moving but don't have a place yet so I'm not sure how much natural light I'll have to work with, especially as it gets colder and keeping blinds/curtains drawn will be necessary. Right now I have a not-very-good temporary purple grow light set up just to try and help them make it through. After we move I'm planning on getting shelving and proper lights.

Based on a recommendation I'm looking at this shelving and these lights. Will those be enough for a wide variety of succulents if they can't get much natural light?

The grow light that I use is Philips T2 Spirals in these lamps. I don't use the clamps though; I just put them directly over my plants using a metal rack about 6 inches above my plants. You wouldn't think at first that the light is strong enough, but it's actually proven itself to be incredible despite it not being marketed as a grow light. Also, you don't need to use the same lamp, it's just the one I use. :)

I recommend these lights if you're still looking. Prime shipping too, so only two days!

I've had them for over a month now and everyone is happy and still has sun colors and a couple are flowering.

This is the grow light: https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Panel-Spectrum-Growing-Flowering/dp/B01IVQ96KY/ref=sr_1_8?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1512481070&sr=1-8&keywords=grow+lights

As for natural light, it doesn't get any due to the dorm I'm currently in. This grow light set up is pretty much the only way they can get the required light without etiolating to shit in the windowsill.

Dude I live in Hawaii so I feel you. It’s not even the most humid place in the world and I still have problems getting indoor succs to dry.

I really liked this soil I got from Amazon by Superfly Bonsai. I have two of my succs potted in that and they’re doing really well. I’m also about to try Bonsai Jack’s soil (here). It looks really coarse with large particle size, so I’m hoping my succs will like it. They are both “soil-less” potting mixes. You could probably make your own by just reading the ingredients on the bag and finding the raw materials.

Your grow lights are the emitting the right frequencies, but they are far too weak. Your plants are stretching out as a result. You want something more powerful like this:

Roleadro LED Grow Light, 75W Grow Light for Indoor Plants Full Spectrum Plant Light for Seedling, Hydroponic, Greenhouse, Succulents, Flower https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IVQ96KY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_EHJIDb2QA12DE

I keep my grow light 1.5 feet away from my plants, and they seem to be happy with the setup.

Edit: sent the wrong link

Yea I have a cheap 12 Watt LED grow bulb. It seems to be doing a pretty good job, you just need a large fixture for it since it is very large. Amazon Link

I've had better luck with this type: https://www.amazon.com/Neiko-00823A-Diamond-Drill-Piece/dp/B00ODSS5NO

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I got these. My Perle von Nurnberg hasn't etiolated and my Black Knight is still black. My cacti (in the bottom left corner, with a dedicated light bar) still have their color too.

Edit: I use my PvN (Phaedra, my first leafy beastie) as my light gauge. If she puts up with the light she's getting, everyone else will survive. It's useful to have That One Plant around if you're concerned about lighting.

There's been lots of topics about small lights such as decent clamp lights etc. I myself have posted a topic here. Make sure to use the search bar!

Quick answer:

• Simple desk clamp light with a good CFL lightbulb in it.

Hey _Prrr,

Thank you for your suggestion. is this a good start?
Philips 433557 100-watt Equivalent, Bright White (6500K) 23 Watt Spiral CFL Light Bulb:

https://www.amazon.com/Philips-433557-100-watt-Equivalent-Bright/dp/B00M6SR1JM/ref=sr_1_30?s=hi&rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1510532744&sr=1-30&refinements=p_n_feature_seventeen_browse-bin%3A9692445011%2Cp_76%3A1249152011%2Cp_85%3A2470955011%2Cp_72%3A1248909011

I love looking at this echeveria.

Though, I noticed that the leaves are not as dense as what I see on other photos.

I'm using a grow light, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C68N7PC/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

because my apartment gets too little sunlight.

should I try to give more lights ?

So far I've had pretty good results with this bulb, haven't owned it too long but the 5 plants i have under the 2 bulb + reflector set up i have seem to be doing well so far

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ODSS5NO/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_c_api_HU8-yb2HD7P35 these have been perfect! Just stop every minute or so or if you hear squeaking and pour water on the area you're drilling and you're good to go.

Check out EveryThang on YouTube, he has videos on the lights he uses and how echeveria color works.

Grow lights have been a chore to shop for, there are so many variations and the made in china stuff has a wide mix of reviews. The purple ones hurt my eyes (if you have thick or cheap glasses they will be extra bad- double vision), so shopping for white... I’m leaning towards a Sunblaster LED, if I can find one.
They also depend on your setup- can you hang a 4’ tube above your plants? An 18” tube? A single bulb? A clip light? A monster unit with cooling fans built in?
I have a Kingbo 50W led dual-head that stopped etoliation on an echeveria elegans (https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07LG39B3M?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title) but I’m not sure it’s enough to maintain color. Mine is on for 14 hours in a sunny window and my black prince is only green-blackish, so probably not.
Time of the light depends on how strong and how far away it is.

Nothing special, just one of these from Amazon:

https://smile.amazon.com/Upgraded-Dimmable-Spectrum-Adjustable-Gooseneck/dp/B07H57K565

This has been 3+ months of 24/7 light. I'm not sure if that's advisable but I've had fun experimenting.

OP here. At someone’s suggestion on this subreddit, I bought these lights on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HBT3BVM?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share. I put all six of them a few inches above my Echeveria and keep them on for 12 hours each day. I know from past experience that Echeveria Afterglow will IMMEDIATELY flatten out if it doesn’t get enough sun, and I bet if I put it outside tomorrow it would tighten back up. So that must mean my grow lights aren’t strong enough, right?? I can’t keep them outside because I live in Phoenix, Arizona, where our 120 degree weather will kill them. I’m just trying to get them through the summer by bringing them inside. Does someone have stronger grow lights they can recommend? Price is not really an issue for me.

Where do you live? Sounds like you need to invest in a grow light for it. If it’s that big, tabletop lights won’t be enough. Look at some of the hanging lamps like this.

I am in zone 5b so not a lot of sunlight for me as well! Grow lights are an absolute necessity for me. (Pack of 8) Kihung Under Cabinet

I use this light to propagate and raise my plants they love it. https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwjch6Tr5argAhVetcAKHQB6CAkYABAaGgJpbQ&ae=1&sig=AOD64_0JKkDQgzbrY-y97gVI8UIdkH6Jcg&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwjy45zr5argAhUGSa0KHWE0DU0Qwg96BAgLEDI&adurl=https://www.amazon.com/Light-4lamps-DL824-Fluorescent-Hydroponic/dp/B009GU4RMC/ref%3Dasc_df_B009GU4RMC/%3Ftag%3Dhyprod-20%26linkCode%3Ddf0%26hvadid%3D167140116641%26hvpos%3D1o11%26hvnetw%3Dg%26hvrand%3D14470749587284503236%26hvpone%3D%26hvptwo%3D%26hvqmt%3D%26hvdev%3Dm%26hvdvcmdl%3D%26hvlocint%3D%26hvlocphy%3D9015235%26hvtargid%3Daud-465585855334:pla-307335020097%26psc%3D1

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009GU4RMC/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AGHGL81LFL69F


One of the best things you can buy. 10,000 lumens is equivalent to full sun.

I use this one. Not sure about the ID though, sorry! But thank you :)

I've been using three of these for a few months and it's the only light they get. They've all been growing nicely without any problems.

Planning on buying this light setup for 4 shelves with succulents and cacti and houseplants underneath them. What do you guys think?

Edit: itll be near a west facing window, but i really would mainly like them to survive through the winter.

Heyo! I’m in the Northeast as well. My house also gets the worst natural light. I have been eyeing one of these T5 mini hoods from Home Depot and setting up a table in our spare room. I’ve also seen some similar T5 light set-ups that daisy chain, but I honestly haven’t decided yet.

I was going to mention your soil! It looks a little organic, I’m not sure what you’re using but I personally use a mixture of cactus soil, perlite, and gritty mix. I have mine in a 1:1:1 ratio but I’m a little heavy handed with the perlite because it’s cheap. You could also switch to terracotta pots to help with overwatering!

https://www.amazon.com/Equivalent-Standard-Energy-Saving-Daylight/dp/B01FYGDX3A

They’re 100 watt equivalent LEDs, 6500k color temp. So far my babies are loving them.

I got 3 of these a month ago. Good so far but someone please tell me if I chose poorly and why.

Roleadro Panel Grow Light Series,45W LED Plant Grow Light with Red Blue Spectrum for Growing&Flowering https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IVQ96KY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_OzYfAbD2Y360Q

I ended up going with these. I hate the purple glow of the red/blue combo panels, and these seemed like a good option. Easy to assemble anyway! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FF7C7KF/

I bought these. You've really got to follow the instructions that the one commenter mentions but the hollow ones work way better than the drill bits that are really only for drywall.

I use [these] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XPKQPSL?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf) and am happy with the results.

I use the red and blue grow lights. I leave them on for 12 hours a day, but I didn't think this type of grow light was that strong.

Could it cause the scarring on these leaves? They're over all of these Cremnosedum "Little Gems". I do put them in the sun for a couple of hours during the weekend as well. Could it be sun damage?

I use this grow light:

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H57K565/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://imgur.com/a/S1G8j93

This is the grow light (it’s alright not the best) and those are my baby rosettes in front, I’m actually not sure what either are honestly

Hello, thanks for the response. Currently growing this succulent using this light

I'm positive this is the bulb being used. http://amzn.com/B00GNWK2XO