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Hey there, Kramjam. I am in the midst of the same process looking in a similar price range. I am sick of always being disappointed in my gaming experience. I have used budget(ish) laptops and am now switching over to pre-built desktops for some true gaming with room to easily grow as gaming evolves. I thought it'd be helpful to write out my top choices.

I have found some good deals and have listed them. I am debating waiting until after Thanksgiving to see if there are any better offers. I have to decide soon, I guess!

This HP Omen 7700 GTX NVIDIA 1070. $1055.55 on Amazon now. It's the lower end of my spectrum but I think a great value. I am looking at 1080 and 8700 ideally but this is a mighty fine desktop and a huge jump for me. The brand name is helpful here too. Don't know about wifi connect.

I am leaning towards the iBUYPOWER 8700k GTX 1070 Ti. $1,399 Amazon. Great reviews, good value, and nice add-ons. I don't need a lighting remote but that's neat to have. Liquid cooling is also pretty cool (ha!). Good specs, good price, nice accessories, can't complain.

ABS 8700 GTX 1080. $1349.99 Newegg. This almost made it an easy search for me. GTX 1080 plus a great price. My biggest concern is reliability. A few bad reviews on Newegg scared me off and I think this is even their in-house brand. The customer service seems good enough from some research but I would rather not have any problems at all. If you want to roll the dice, I think this is the best value you can find. They also do a 1060 and 1070 for lower prices as you should see in the link. This is it's bigger, badder brother running 1080Ti and 8700k at $1,749.99.

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cyberpowerpc AMD Ryzen 2700 but NVIDIA RTX 2070. $1,449 Amazon. I having been leaning Intel so not a fan of AMD. This system is 3.2 GHz 8 core whereas the Intel 7700, like in the HP Omen, is 3.6 GHz 6 core. But an RTX 2070 in a prebuild desktop for only $1,449 is ridiculous from my research. It's overkill for what I am using now and I would like a better processor but I thought I would put it here for you.

cyberpowerpc Intel 8700k NVIDIA GTC 1070 Ti. $1,549 Amazon. Same stats as the iBuypower but for $150 more. I guess I like the design more than the i.b.p. but I'd rather save the $150. Maybe post-Thanksgiving will shake this price down??

SKyTech 8700k GTX 1080. $1,549.99. 1070 Ti is $1,499.99. Amazon. Looks great in terms of specs, reviews, even looks and add-ons. I would choose this over the cyberpowerpc above. Has some more customizable options too. But based on our budget, I think you would be better suited for the HP Omen or the iBuypower.

Tl;DR

The HP Omen and iBUYPOWER options listed are my two top choices but all of these made it to my final list. I think another $350 for a better processor, slightly better graphics, and better add-ons makes the iBUYPOWER worth it. Even if the name is terrible...

I hope this helps! Please share any of your insights as well.


Edit: I included the differences in specs most important to me. All have at least 240 GB SSD and some have 2 instead of 1 TB of HDD. All of 16 GB of memory and Windows 10.

I’m not Canadian, but I’ll try to help.

This PC is a great build with an awesome CPU and a decent GPU but lacks both an SSD and 16 gigs of RAM, both necessary for future-proofing. (The SSD is necessary now, but you can hold off with 8 gigs of ram) Sadly, I can’t find builds that are less than 1k CAD with anything similar or better than this with more RAM or an SSD.

I recommend getting a separate SSD like this. (You can always do the cheaper 250 gb variant for less money). I recommend this SSD because it is one of the fastest and comes with amazing Windows 10 cloning software. this guide is how I installed mine (just ignore the laptop specific parts like removing the battery. You can then order a SATA wire like this one to install your SSD. (If you don’t know where in the case you should put your SSD, just use 3M or double sided tape and tape it someone aesthetically pleasing on the bottom of the case.

The sata cables should be obvious where to install (on the right side of the motherboard, usually stacked on top of each other, slightly above or below the GPU), otherwise, you can look up your motherboard to find the SATA slots. Then just install the cloning software and follow the guide. When you need more RAM, look at the PCs ram slot and order another 8 gig stick (if there is only 1 stick of 8 gigs), otherwise, just order 16 gigs of any DDR4 ram you want. I’m sorry you need to do work to get a fully future proof machine, but remember this isn’t 100% needed, just highly recommended. (Plus you can save 100 bucks from your paycheck a few weeks from now for the SSD, you don’t need it the second u get ur pc. Good luck, let me know if you need any help!

P.S You don’t even need a big SSD, just something to hold Windows 10 and programs like Steam and Chrome. Big stuff like games can go on the HDD

Alright, got bunch of stuff for you

[$1250] HP Omen (Benchmark) - Alright so this one is way over budget, I'm not recommending you to buy this right now. However, this PC regularly goes on sale for around $1100. In fact, it was on sale only a week ago but only recently went back up. My gut feeling is that it will once again drop in price for Black Friday. FOUND IT! [$994] HP Omen The PC below will have around the same performance but I felt it was worth mentioning because I've personally owned this tower and can vouch that it's great.

[$1100] iBuyPower CylonNE (Benchmark) - Unfortunately over budget, it has a i5 8400 (which is actually better than the i7 6700 in the video (i7 6700 Bench, i5 8400 Bench)). The main upside is the 1070 which is really great and imo future proof for the foreseeable future (unless ray-tracing really takes off, I don't think it will for a few years).

[$800] HP Pavilion (Benchmark) - It's going to do fine with Fallout 76, don't expect anything too great but considering this PC has a i5 8400 (which is better than the i3 8100 in the benchmark) you can expect it to perform marginally better.

[$750] Dell Inspiron 5680 - Literaly last minute add, $50 cheaper than the one above, figured I'd give you both just so you can have options with the brands.

Definitely wait for Black Friday, it'll be your best bet for deals. Don't settle for anything less than an i5 8400 (or equal in performance) or a 1060. Good luck!

Edit: Formatting, I messed up :(

Within that budget, I would definitely ensure I get the best Graphics card and processor combo I can get. This Gamer Xtreme GXi10200A would be a very good pick..It has the awesome 7th gen quad core i7 processor ( one of the best CPUs available), 16 GB RAM which is great, a fast SSD plus a TB storage space and of course, it has the Solid GTX 1060 Ti dedicated graphics card. This should run the latest games today very well and do a great job in video or photo editing.

That's a very good deal except for the GPU, it's a low range low power GPU. According to several benchmarks, the integrated graphics are better but in some CPU intensive games such as CS:GO or LoL, it performs better with a discrete card. Down the line, if you can afford it, you should replace the GPU with a mid range card such as the RX series from AMD or anything GTX 960 above.

If you can save up, you would be better off with this computer as the CPU and GPU are more balanced and it comes with a Wifi card. The i5 6402p performs wonderfully in games and the RX 480 is the perfect card to complement it. For example, on GTA V, at ultra settings, it's able to play at a consistent 80 FPS.

To be honest, if you are gaming and want a great experience, you could build a really amazing PC for $800.

If you are looking in the $600-$700 range though, I know the Dell Inspiron AMD Ryzen 7 is a great prebuilt computer; you get a graphics card capable of handling 1080P gaming right off the bat with 16GB of DRAM which is great as well. I don't like that it has an HDD however; but it is 1TB and is very easy to swap out for an SSD.

Also, if you were looking to spend slightly more, I believe the CyberPower PC Gamer Xtreme VR is an excellent choice as well; but again, HDD kinda sucks. Let me know if you have any questions about anything, just PM me and I'd be glad to help you!

I found these 2, but for the life of me I couldn't find one with 16GB or RAM.

$710 - CYBERPOWERPC - i5-9400F, B360, GTX 1660, 8GB (1x8GB, 2400), 240GB SSD, 1TB HDD, WiFi

$660 - SkyTech - Ryzen 5 2600, GTX 1660, 8GB (1x8GB, 3000), 500G SSD, WiFi

I'm leaning towards the Ryzen pc. I like the faster memory, and while it has less storage, I personally would prefer the larger 500GB SSD over an 240GB SSD + 1TB HDD combo.

One thing to also keep in mind is that it is a single stick of memory. Having 8GB of RAM in dual channel (2 sticks that are 4GB each) is better than single channel (1 stick that is 8GB), but having a single 8GB stick means that in the future, if you do decide to upgrade to 16GB, you will be able to run the most ideal RAM setup for gaming (2 sticks that are 8GB each)

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For reference:

1 stick of RAM that is 8GB 3000 would cost around $30-40. It's a large margin cause ideally you want to buy the same model that is in your current rig so they match. While it isn't required, running RAM at the same speed and latency (and same DRAM cache modules) is ideal.

1-2TB HDDs are around $30-50

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Both of these are also very easy to install.

it's an OK deal, nothing crazy. The gtx 1050ti is a pretty entry level GPU, great for esport games but not really for modern AAA titles. I'd rather have 8gb of RAM if it means getting an rx 570 or rx 580.

this pc costs only 25% more, but will perform about 80% better (actually a steal at this price)
https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Desktop-Graphics-View21-035A/dp/B07D5S3LZM/ref=sr_1_9?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1537995252&sr=1-9&keywords=cyberpowerpc

so it's a better performance/price ratio

Or, in the ~650 range, I think I'd rather have this for gaming

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-Graphics-Operating/dp/B0771NRPN4/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1537995459&sr=1-4&keywords=dell+inspiron+rx+570

much better GPU, but less RAM (8gb fine for now), and no SSD. However, SSD's are very cheap these days, 120gb is enough for the OS.

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1050-Ti-vs-AMD-RX-570/3649vs3924


in the end, if it's primarily a gaming machine (no video editing, photoshop, etc. needed), you should almost always go for the best GPU possible in your price bracket. That will give you the best performance in game.

If you're willing to spend $50 more, this is a good option.

This will give you similar performance, but has 8gb ram (will still be enough for gaming) and lacks an SSD (which is very nice to have)

This is also a solid machine for 1080p gaming.

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the 1st and 3rd prebuilt are the best value.

Here's 2 you can choose:

Skytech

Cyberpower

Skytech is Ryzen + 1050 Ti and Cyber is Intel + RX 580 4G. In terms of performance wise, Cyber will be better because 580 4G > 1050 Ti, but of course, slightly more expensive.

Overall internal parts use, Skytech > cyber because Skytech uses better power supply, memory, and etc.

Both can play almost any games in the market at 1080p high to ultra setting. Both system will be able to handle Minecraft for sure.

You can also wait till BF/CM which is next month, I'm sure you can pick one of these PC up for $50-$100 less.

Gotta love how literally everyone on here will just tell you to build it and not answer your question.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_Hg9iDbDP0N60M

This is gonna be the best you'll get for the price pre-built. All it really needs is an SSD and maybe swap out the 4gb vram model for an 8gb. Anything better and you'll have to pay more.

I got this exact model and it works fantastic, you can upgrade it substantially too (PSU, GPU, SSD)

Building a gaming PC you will always get better performance per dollar than a pre built, and is much easier than most people think. However here are a few options if you still want a prebuilt...

This has a better graphics card https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BV33X5G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_ygDvCbQ9KGGZW

Better price with similar performance https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_jiDvCbR2JY8RF

Another option https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079HWQFHS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_zjDvCbY7GSNCF

A lot of prebuilts come with 8gb of RAM moving up to 16 is a very easy DIY upgrade.

This is a pretty good deal:

https://slickdeals.net/f/11641671-dell-inspiron-5675-desktop-ryzen-5-1400-8gb-ddr4-1tb-hdd-rx-570-4gb-580-after-100-sd-rebate-free-s-h?src=catpagev2

If you want slightly better performance and a good warranty deal then this is an alright system:

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1527733497&sr=1-1&keywords=desktop&refinements=p_36%3A50000-85000

or

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-580-023w-i5-7400-Graphics/dp/B077S27YLP/ref=pd_sbs_147_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B077S27YLP&pd_rd_r=QFSRZXVQJKGGWAS9S6G2&pd_rd_w=rFvwd&pd_rd_wg=rg5xY&psc=1&refRID=QFSRZXVQJKGGWAS9S6G2&dpID=318W8FLYRhL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=detail

SkyTech Blaze II seems to be the best one for eSport games on Amazon, it can also run modern AAA titles but it's really future-proof when it comes to eSports. It has a Ryzen 5 2600 and a GTX 1660 which are plenty for League of Legends, Overwatch and CS:GO etc. I'm going to buy it myself.

The GTX 1660 build is really good for the price especially that it's currently on discount for $679. Anything more powerful would be similar to this GTX 1070 build which is slightly above your budget.

eh, its not bad, especially if all you want to play is Skyrim. But for the money I would've expected a better graphics card.


If you have an extra $50 I'd check out this [CyberPowerPC - Gamer Ultra Desktop - AMD Ryzen 5 1400 - 8GB Memory - AMD Radeon RX 580 - 1TB Hard Drive - Black] (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-ultra-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-1400-8gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-580-1tb-hard-drive-black/5833100.p?id=&skuId=5833100)


Reviewed here by Austin Evans [Is a $750 Gaming PC Worth It?] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfS5J3gGQa4)


There is also this on amazon for $699 [CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8020A2 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz, AMD RX 480 4GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM SATA III HDD, 802.11AC WIFI USB Adapter, Win 10 Home), Black] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBL8BER)

Sorry for formatting ahead of time, I'm on mobile.

This one I found on Amazon isn't bad. It's got an ssd and generally all-around good hardware. Only drawback imo is the 4gb rx 580, but that shouldn't be that big of a problem, especially for the games that you are playing.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D5S3LZM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_VdR-Bb3VHE9S6

Also, do you play on using ethernet or wifi? The build that I have linked does not include a wifi adapter, although they are fairly cheap and easy to install. You could even go with a USB adapter if you really wanted to, but I would recommend an internal adapter.

Thank you for breaking it down. I'm still pretty new at this. Hopefully last question.
I saw someone post this one
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GUA4500A-FX-6300-GTX1060-Desktop/dp/B01ICLADUA

Looks like the main difference is fx-6300 vs Ryzen and 16gb ddr3 vs 8gb ddr4.
Is Ryzen worth the difference between the two?

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Desktop-GXiVR8080A2-Overclockable-i7-8700K/dp/B075VSBNQZ?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_1

That’s probably one of the best choices for a prebuilt in your budget. I’d say use the rest of the money for a top of the line monitor and good peripherals.

https://www.amazon.com/GN27DB-27-Inch-Monitor-FreeSync-GamePlus/dp/B078P57ZWL/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2IL8KJT9IJ5BG&keywords=1440p+144hz+monitor&qid=1566146924&s=gateway&sprefix=1440p+144%2Caps%2C136&sr=8-3

Something like this might be good for you 1440p 144hz Amd Free sync

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1509849103&sr=1-1&keywords=gaming%2Bpc&th=1&psc=1

This does not include a monitor but it's pretty good, I'm not sure if you mean monitor and pic for 900 or just of but I'm sure this could run most games at 60~ fps.
There is a lack of an ssd though.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07RHBLV7F
It's really good for around $750 and it would do you great

Not OP, but I'm considering this CyberPowerPC computer which seems to be a good deal and well reviewed. Any thoughts?

This is a better computer and cheaper
iBUYPOWER Elite Gaming PC Desktop AMD Ryzen 7 1800X 3.6GHz, AMD Radeon RX 580 4GB Graphics, 16GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB HDD, 120GB SSD, Win 10 Home 64-bit, View21 035A https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D5S3LZM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_rvTJBb4WADPDJ

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B077S27YLP/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1525541363&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=hp+pavilion+gaming&dpPl=1&dpID=41wxHZqVs2L&ref=plSrch

This is what i am currently looking into, not sure if its the absolute best bang for your buck but its got good parts and room for upgrades.

Thanks, I found a prebuilt pc that looks good, mind telling me if it is? the prebuilt

The PC in your link is not as good as this one..........
Best bang for buck with upgrade opportunities and great components............https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=lp_8588813011_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1519171292&sr=1-4

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=rx+580+pc&qid=1571095909&sr=8-3

This PC will absolutely run Rainbow Six: Siege at over 100 FPS on low settings, 1080p. The RX 580 is a great graphics card for esports as it's more economic in terms of price, but provides excellent FPS. The CPU is previous generation, but not outdated, and is still viable in 2019 (and will still be viable in 2020, 2021, and 2022). 16 GB of RAM will allow you to have Siege open, simultaneously with Chrome, Discord, and OBS (if you're into recording gameplay, or streaming).

This one is what I have. I play and stream LoL and several other games such as The Forest and Fallout 4 and it still does a bang of a job.

The FX-6300 is a 6 year old CPU that has no business being paired with a modern GPU. If I were you I'd spend an extra 50$ and get this:


https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1527709706&sr=1-3&keywords=cyberpowerpc

It has a vastly superior CPU, significantly better GPU, and includes a mouse and keyboard.

Right now it's Prime day, and on Amazon Prime there's a pc currently $639.99 for this PC It has 301 reviews, and
72% of the reviews are 5 stars and 15% are 4 stars, so 87% people seem to enjoy this PC. Hope I had helped.

That is better but do you know if it really is a 1-2 month wait for it? Would it be worth it? And how would this stack up

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00IMOND82/ref=mp_s_a_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1496787723&sr=8-11&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=gaming+pc

This pc should be able to run mostly any game you throw at it. As well give you the ability to upgrade the graphics card a few years from now. https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXi10200A-Desktop-i7-7700-7200RPM/dp/B00IMOND82/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1499602238&sr=1-2-spons&keywords=gaming+pc&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075MNH4HP/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=AW28EV66OQ1K3&p

Thanks for your quick reply. How does this compare to those?

is that better than this one?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PKXQBHN/ref=s9_acss_bw_cg_PCDTMC_2d1_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-2&pf_rd_r=57A6TGWXQ47D7GWJKYE4&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=06e9ee76-d6ac-4f84-8c32-01dc267a3e2b&pf_rd_i=565098

This is a much better deal https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?keywords=gaming+pc&qid=1571615867&sr=8-6 if you have a bit more go for https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Blaze-Gaming-Computer-Desktop/dp/B07RHBLV7F/ref=mp_s_a_1_13?keywords=gaming+pc&qid=1571615867&sr=8-13

What do you think of this Cyberpower PC? As far as I can see, it appears to be the same graphics card, same amount of RAM and Hard Drive, the big difference being Intel over AMD processor. The big difference is, including the warranty, getting that one from Amazon saves me nearly $200 for what looks like basically the same level of machine.

Here are some okay options, having a quick look on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Master-Gaming-GeForce-GMA8400CPGV2/dp/B07TXGS7YQ/

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Computer-Element-9260-i7-9700F/dp/B07V34QQ3C/

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-i5-9400F-GeForce-GXiVR8480A2/dp/B07TWCVFVR/

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-i5-9400F-GeForce-GXiVR8060A8/dp/B07VGJDKZ4/

To be clear, my recommendation is always to build your own, because there will always be compromises with low to mid budget pre-build PCs.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CV9G1BO/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This one is better than the Lenovo one and same price.

Better deal:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077S27YLP/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=AP9SL6ONU98K8&psc=1#HLCXComparisonWidget_feature_div

Parts on that PC are outdated. Get this one.

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https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-802-11AC/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493178061&sr=8-1&keywords=cyberpower+pc

This one is perfect for 1080p but 1440p would be a stretch, should be doable though.

If she is just using it for browsing the internet, some streaming, and maybe light MS Suite usage you may not need to go to $800 the Acer Aspire TC, Intel Core i5-6400, 8GB DDR4, 2TB HDD, Windows 10 Home can do well for an older family and its for $400, you can bundle with a monitor and get everything for less than $500

If you can spare 100 extra dollars I’d get this one , but if not for that price, get this one for the same price but a $500 value. Seriously it’s a $500 one for 270 get it

Oh yeah I deleted it so others wouldn't see it lol. Here is it. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BDTTQ1M/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza?th=1

Not horrible, but for 1700 USD you should be able to get a PC with a 1080ti and a larger SSD.

http://www.microcenter.com/product/488862/CodexXE069US_Desktop_Computer

http://www.microcenter.com/product/479097/G428_Desktop_Computer

This one is on sale for 1500
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8080A2-Overclockable-i7-8700K/dp/B075VSBNQZ/

I’ve seen this computer mentioned a lot on this subreddit. You may want to keep an eye on the price. It was $750 a couple weeks ago.

Desktop: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CV9G1BO/ref=twister_B07D2F6TYH?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Laptop: https://www.amazon.com/Acer-SP315-51-Laptop-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B07BXK58H7/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1526353266&sr=1-7&keywords=Laptop+1080p+ips&refinements=p_36%3A-50000

I'd also take a look at this https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8020A-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B01HNBLHAA/ref=pd_sbs_147_1?ie=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01HNBLHAA&pd_rd_r=ER8YMC1857A8F5VRC0AX&pd_rd_w=KLPe4&pd_rd_wg=zyh6m&psc=1&refRID=ER8YMC1857A8F5VRC0AX

Also how do you feel about this?

Seems a bit pricey.

While it isn't in stock right now this was 500 not to long ago

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01ICLADUA/ref=aw_pd_cart_vw_1_atc_1?

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Desktop-i5-6400-Windows-ATC-780-AMZi5/dp/B01K1INXJK/ref=as_li_ss_tl?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1481359319&sr=1-5&linkCode=sl1&tag=tecdea0f-20&linkId=5626d92dcf87c228314bc9376299f738

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Aspire-i5-6400-Windows-ATC-780-AMZi5/dp/B01K1INXJK/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1494037128&sr=8-4&keywords=acer+aspire+desktop

I've narrowed it down to yours and this one

For yours, I will choose 8GB ram and what should I choose for storage? 1TB HDD or 12GB SSD?

Also I assume i can select none for GPU?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NBL8BER/ref=s9_acss_bw_cg_PCACDTCE_2e1_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=unified-hybrid-3&pf_rd_r=HPA85RMVR9MEEH7H4D8W&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=533d7f1e-16af-4797-823f-36bec33a2731&pf_rd_i=565098

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0747W15QL/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Would this be better? https://www.amazon.ca/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Xtreme-Desktop-Gaming/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1509670734&sr=1-2&keywords=gaming

What about this ?https://www.amazon.ca/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8060A5-Desktop-i5-8400-GeForce/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1538765413&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=cyberpowerpc&dpPl=1&dpID=41ovDf0K24L&ref=plSrch

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8060A5-i5-8400-GeForce/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1542986649&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=gaming+pc&dpPl=1&dpID=41ovDf0K24L&ref=plSrch get this one instead

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075VSBNQZ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

$100 more than the one you linked, but has a 1080ti instead

As a follow up, how does OP's linked PC compare to the following one:
https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-580-023w-i5-7400-Graphics/dp/B077S27YLP/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1527039488&sr=8-1&keywords=hp+1060

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvpv2_3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=2708083022714283574&pd_rd_wg=j5Od0&pf_rd_r=SF8N4KSDM5WJ52B45NMF&pf_rd_s=desktop-sx-bottom-slot&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_i=B07B6H4GNY&pd_rd_w=Ne5OX&pf_rd_i=GUA2600BST&pd_rd_r=83a512f4-e09f-493a-8dab-1c679adc3782&ie=UTF8&qid=1526900928&sr=3

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BHXV3TJ

I was thinking about this and just installing my current SSD. Thoughts?

https://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-Xtreme-i5-9400F-GeForce-GXiVR8060A7/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=sr_1_3?crid=257JNLELTS1OK&keywords=prebuilt+gaming+pc&qid=1569188976&s=electronics&sprefix=pre+built+ga%2Celectronics%2C142&sr=1-3

Here's another option to consider. I just bought this. I haven't unboxed it yet but it will be a big upgrade from what I have.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RHBLV7F/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Why is the first PC you linked so much more expensive than this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VGJDKZ4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_jekYDbH6TQ9JZ
It's got the same parts doesn't it?

a lot of shitty choices on amazon tbh. This was best I could find in 5 min https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GUA4500A-FX-6300-GTX1060-Desktop/dp/B01ICLADUA/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1519811160&sr=1-7&keywords=gaming+pc&refinements=p_36%3A80000-100000

Says it ships in 1 to 2 months tho :/

Sorry to be a bother but do you think this would be worth the extra $100:

HP Omen 870-213w Desktop PC (256GB+ 1TB Hard Drive i7-7700) Windows 10 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075MNH4HP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_UE58Bb46JZMMB

No SSD.

Buying a new one that fits my needs + amazon shipping pushes the price up to about 800 not including the fact that I don't like personally installing hardware.

That and - there's a PC with almost the exact same standards in the HP pav. also on amazon, for about 100 bucks cheaper without the wifi (which I don't need) and the Vr (which I don't want).

Will keep it in mind though.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BHXV3TJ/ref=s9_acsd_bw_wf_a_BTSmainw_cdl_6?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_r=MYPY1Q27NNAHK0GBKRJ8&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=7812fd9d-7617-4125-954d-9eb9d86d507b&pf_rd_i=15201447011

This isn't a bad deal. There's a few things to criticize, but not the price. It should meet your father's needs. (Currently $480. Don't pay more.)

Here's one with an i5 and 1060 for $640 USD. Similar price that's a step up from what you're looking at. Only 1tb storage though.

HP Pavilion Power 580-023w Gaming Tower, Intel Core i5-7400, NVIDIA GTX 1060 3GB Graphics, 8 GB Memory, 1TB Hard Drive, Windows 10 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077S27YLP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_kxmKAbH990HCG

Probably not the best, but add an ssd and you're set- cost $720-
prebuilt
.The GPU- what it can handle.