(Part 3) Top products from r/vinyl

You could easily Pro-Ject your way up for £1000, and have a great sounding set-up going on! (I know, because I just went full Pro-Ject after browsing, checking and listening to tons of TT's)

• I can't recommend the Pro-Ject Debut Carbon enough. This will set you back £300, but it's worth every pence. And it comes with an Ortofon 2M Red cartridge, so you're pretty well off there. (Although I went for the Ortofon OM 10 personally)
  
  
• Hook it up to a Phono Box II, and for an additional £70 you're even pre-amped! Or, use a pre-amp, dependent on the amp you're going to use. The pre-amp is with its £123 a tad more expensive, but those extra pounds could come in useful. (Whether or not the amp can adjust volume. If not, like the one listed below, you'll need this to be able to adjust the volume)
  
  
• Power it up with an Amp Box DS, and for another £300 you're done!
  
  A great set-up for under £700!
  
  Of course, you can always use some speakers as well. I don't know how big you want to go, but if you want to keep it compact and clean, you can't go wrong with a pair of JBL speakers. These will set you back for £150.
  
  So for under £850 you have yourself a truly great brand and spanking new set-up.
  
  If £1000 is your budget, you can even squeeze in some upgrades.
  
  
• The Pro-Ject Acryl-It platter is a good purchase for £100! Looks beautiful on the TT, and gives you less resonance, so a better sound. (But more importantly, you can leave the stock felt mat aside. How much I like Pro-Ject, that felt mat is crap!)
  
  
• The Speed Box is another great upgrade for some £100. This one will let you switch between 33 and 45 rpm, without having to manually change the belt. It also equalizes the power from your outlet, resulting in a guaranteed playback speed of 33 or 45 rpm.
  (Do check compatibility, though. Not all power supplies are compatible. For the BE power outlet, I had to go for the Speed Box SEII. That one will set you back a bit more, but I heard that Pro-Ject is releasing a new one this summer that supposedly will be 'budget')
  
  So it's possible to have an upgraded set-up for just over £1000. And I guarantee you'll be very happy with your set-up!
  
  I know this relies heavily on Pro-Ject. But what can I say... I'm a fan. I'm sure there are other possibilities and options out there that are just as good (and if you can score some great vintage finds, even better). So, I'm not saying you should absolutely go for this set-up. Do as I do. Snoop around. Listen and compare. Just wanted to give you an idea of a great new set-up within your budget.
  
  EDIT: expanded on the pre-amplification.

The LP-60 is considered the very bottom of entry-level turntables. It's not murder on vinyl like the BSR tables (though some here might disagree), but it isn't a "hi-fi" turntable by any means. But if you do decide to go that route, you will need speakers and a way for the sound to be amplified to those speakers.

There are generally two types of speakers: passive and powered. Passive speakers will need an amplifier (in the form of a receiver, integrated amplifier or separate pre-amp/amplifier) to send sound out to the speakers. Powered speakers will have their own built in amplifier.

In addition to speakers and amplifier, turntables need a specialized phono preamp. The phono preamp converts the signal from the turntable into a line-level signal that most audio equipment can handle. It also add equalization called the RIAA Curve to compensate for some of the limitations of the vinyl medium.

The LP-60 has a built-in phono preamp, so that part is taken care of. What you will need next is to decide on what type of speakers you want. There are good powered speakers, like Audio Engine, but they can be fairly spendy. Some people use powered monitors designed for mixing music, but I find that they aren't "musical" and can be fatiguing over long listens. You can also get a cheap 2.1 system, but the sound quality will be lacking.

I would recommend going the passive speaker route. If you have a local craigslist, your best bet is to find a decent '90s era receiver. Equipment from the '90s, especially older home-theater units, are the best value in audio gear right now. They aren't desired by collectors because of their plain look, but they were manufactured at a time when quality and power output standards were high.

If you get one of those receivers, I would then recommend getting a pair of these Pioneer BS-22-LR speakers:

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/Speakers/Home+Theater+Speakers/SP-BS22-LR

http://www.stereophile.com/content/pioneer-sp-bs22-lr-loudspeaker

http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/a-great-bookshelf-speaker/

http://www.budgetphile.com/2013/10/budget-speaker-review-pioneer-sp-bs22-lr.html

They routinely go on sale for $99 (and sometimes $89). Keep an eye out at the big retailers and usually within a month one of them will have them on sale and the other will follow suite suit.

If you don't want to go used, then I would recommend the Sherwood RX-4105. It's inexpensive and proven:

http://www.amazon.com/RX-4105-2-Channel-Remote-Controlled-Stereo-Receiver/dp/B0002EPWC0

Both the speakers and receiver are available at most big box and online retailers (Walmart, Best Buy, New Egg, Amazon, Target, etc.).

If you thin you are fairly serious about vinyl as a hobby, I would step up the turntable to a U-Turn Orbit and get the Sherwood RX-4109 receiver (with built-in phono preamp) instead:

http://uturnaudio.com

http://www.amazon.com/Sherwood-RX-4109-Stereo-Receiver-Black/dp/B000MBUSD6/

I just invested in this guy, and I'm quite pleased with it:

http://www.amazon.com/Pro-Ject-13086-PRO-JECT-DEBUT-CARBON/dp/B007XTE6YW

I'm the furthest thing from an expert, but it sounds and looks great. The motor is dead quiet and the needle that comes with it is very good as well. I've heard that some people have issues with hum from the motor, but that's obviously not been the case for me.

Depending on what you're aiming for, I know that other patrons of this sub will often recommend investing in a vintage turntable, as it's generally possible to get more bang for your buck out of something used that's been kept up well rather than buying new, so if you're interested in going that route, I'm sure some others will have good advice to that end.

Whatever you decide, enjoy the new hardware! I think you'll be very pleased with the improved sound quality. :)

Oh okay. Perfect. If it can take normal headshells, I'd recommend the classic Technics headshell.

https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-SFPCC31001K-Technics-HEADSHELL/dp/B003DY5Q4K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1488090734&sr=8-1&keywords=technics+headshell

These babies were built near perfectly.

If you want cartridge recommendations, the Shure M97xE is a pretty highly recommended one. I run one myself, it sounds pretty great. If you really want high detail, go for the AT440MLA or MLB. They're both microline, so just be careful if you play really beat up records with them. Not recommended for playing scratchy records as it gives depth to everything, including surface noise. I've heard the Nagaoka MP-110 is also a really awesome cart. I believe I heard it in a record store once (at least it looked like the MP-110, I should have asked!), and it sounded great.

I'm not familiar with Grado carts but I've heard they have a pretty good reputation, so those should be good as well.

I think it's will be okay for those few months if you pick up a new stylus or cartridge and the tracking force is set properly. Because it does not have a counterweight that you can balance you need a scale to measure the tracking force (it's always good to have one anyways for future turntables). Any scale that can read hundredth of grams should be fine. You can pick them up on Amazon from $10-30.

Also, pick up a new stylus for your cartridge. If you do not know what cartridge is on it here are two options: (1) better option: Audio-Technica AT92ECD $25 on amazon, and (2) slightly cheaper but worse option: Audio Technica AT3482P $20 on amazon.

With the cartridge/stylus install the scale should read 1.25g (at little higher at 1.5g is also fine).

If you find that vinyl is your thing, upgrade it in the future. New decent starter tables are things like the U-Turn Orbit, Audio-Technica LP120 (don't get an LP60, the table that you have now is better if working properly). Check out the Entry Level Turntable Guide. There is always the option of going used as well, just make sure you research and test everything. Good luck. Hopefully, that helps you out.

Well second hand you can get something really cool, otherwise most likely something like this Pro-Ject, this pre-amp and if you can squeeze in extra 25 I definitely recommend these speakers. These speakers are usually way more and they are really good, giving you the ability to control audio trough them and also using headphones if you want to.

Now I started with a Pro-Ject and am bit biased on them. But I also think they have some real benefits over Regas basic models and the U turn. The Pro-Ject comes with Ortofons OM-10 that is a great cartridge in its own right and it can easily be upgraded with replacing the stylus with a higher quality one. They also have some adjustments available over the rega.

Yeah so don't even go by digital vs vinyl. Not a straight comparison since they're mastered differently.

Now, if the record playing through your KLH speakers isn't much better than a bluetooth speaker, then I'd say it's time for new speakers. I know JBL can make great stuff but a pair of bookshelf speakers shouldn't be worse than a BT speaker. Since you've already got a receiver, going with some new passive bookshelf speakers will be a bit more affordable. Something like Klipsch's R-14M's for $150 or the bigger R-15M's for about $172 would sound pretty good. Or you can go with the powered version (it's usually around $350 so wait for a better price) and ditch the receiver for a more compact rig. The powered R-15PM's have a built-in phono preamp, optical input, bluetooth, and AUX input with a remote for volume and source switching. It also has a port for a sub in case you feel like adding one in the future.

Also, have you considered using a headphone amp for personal listening? Grab a Schiit Magni for $99 and pair it with a nice set of ATHM50's or DT 770's.

Yeah at that point you can get a Crosley C100. Crosley gets a lot of hate on here but the brand itself doesn't mean anything, they just rebadge (mostly) Chinese turntables. The company that people actually hate is Skywin, which makes those suitcase record players. Crosley sells a lot of those. But this is a Hanpin turntable, which are much better quality. Granted, this still isn't what I would consider a good turntable. But it's a significant step above an LP60. I would recommend a C100 to a beginner, I wouldn't recommend an LP60. If you go second hand you could get something five times better for half the price.

But in the under-$100 category, I just noticed this thing. It's only $80 and looks comparable to the C100. You'd definitely want to buy a new cartridge for it because the one on there is crap, but otherwise it looks superior to an LP60. While not good, I think it likely is acceptable. But used will be much better.

For a small, but nice setup I'd look for a nice pair of vintage bookshelf speakers or invest in a new pair of bookshelf speakers. Something like these Polks. Polks generally excel at mid range and high range definition. They would be very portable and not so bassy or large as to draw a lot of attention. Then, when you get space for a bigger system you could add a sub, some bigger fronts, and use these for rear surrounds. If that's too much money, Pioneer is my second goto for small, clear, cheap bookshelf speakers. They haven't changed what they do in decades, but they haven't needed to either! Good luck!

Try a phono preamp, speakers, then turntable.

Phono preamp: Though the ones in vintage receivers are usually good. You could try a Schiit Mani $129 which is a great option under $300 and has select-able gain options.

Taking the Guesswork out of Phonostage Gain

More options with select-able gain: Hagerman Bugle3 $189, Emotiva XPS-1 $209, Bellari VP130 Tube with Headphone Amp $219, Pro-Ject Tube Box S2 Phono Preamplifier $399, Puffin Phono DSP $399.

Speakers:

While the B6 were good the B6.2 are an improvement and a good buy only when they are on sale for $150 or $200 but they are currently $300 and there are many other better options. Consider also looking for used speakers.

Best deals:

• Bookshelf: Polk LSiM703 Bookshelves Speakers (pair) $449 Midnight Mahogany or Mt. Vernon Cherry originally $1,499 MSRP.
  
• Towers: Wharfedale Reva 3 $585 $1,500 plus $95 shipping.
  
  Internet Direct Speaker Brand Comparison
  
  
• Ascend Sierra-1 $720.
  
• Towers: Tekton Design Mini Lore $575 pair or Lore Reference $750. Lore Family Intro Video.
  
• Ascend CBM-170 SE $299 plus shipping. Neutral sound with a linear frequency response. My speaker of choice for mostly music. Internet direct cuts out the middle man so compare to $500 speakers.
  
  On sale:
  
  
• Klipsch RP-160M $349.
  
• Wharfedale Diamond 225 $349.
  
  Turntable: Consider looking for a vintage turntable or used, Rega Planar 3 for example.
  
  Or new:
  
  
• Fluance RT85 $499 when it is back in stock that adds an optical speed sensor controlled servo motor for lower wow and flutter and speed variation than most anything else in the price range.
  
• Rega Planar 3 without cartridge $945 and choose your own.
  
• VPI Cliffwood $899.
  
• Pro-Ject The Classic $899.

I have this table and I love it. Works great, sounds great, and it's damn sexy looking. You can upgrade the cartridge later to have it sound even better but it's not necessary to do so. Very little setup as well. With the help of a video on youtube you can have it up and running in under 20mins after you pull it out of the box. If you want it for a bit cheaper you can get the black version.

Or as someone already mentioned, the Debut Carbon (which I believe is already out) should be similar price but a bit better. Better arm and better stock cartridge.

Hello,

I just wanted some opinions on my setup that I'm asking for Christmas. and yes I know buying used gear is a better choice but I can't expect people giving me gifts to go hunt at thrift stores and craigslist.

Denon DP 300F

Onkyo A-9010 Integrated Stereo Amplifier

Polk Audio T15 Bookshelf Speakers

The Denon has a pre-amp right? So, do I need the Onkyo Amp? If I don't "need" the Onkyo amp would it still be worth the money e.g. improve the sound a noticeable amount?

Is anything I'm buying too cheap or too expensive for my setup? (I'm looking for an entry level setup)

How much more will I get out of a better turntable like the Orbit U-Turn would I, a novice, notice a difference? And if I do get the Orbit (and the Onkyo) should I get the Orbit with or without the pre-amp?

Finally am I making any huge mistakes? Are there any better value options than the parts I've chose?

Oh cool, so I'd just be unscrewing this bit and replacing it with something like this?

And yeah, I'm pretty sure my current grounding situation is fucked. The grounding port on the TT looks like this and I bought these cables for it but the grounding wire never actually "stuck" in to the TT's grounding port. So I've got it blu-tacked in position, I'm sure theres a better fitting ground wire out there but I haven't found one!

And yeah I think I might focus on a new receiver. Cheers for your help.

Hey guys,

So I'm getting into vinyls and everything for my apartment and need advice with purchasing equipment. So I already but the LP60 (bluetooth model), and the Edifier R1280DB. However I'm thinking of exchanging to the AT LP3 because I want something automatic. Now here is where I need some advice. At times I want to switch from speakers to my headphones (Bose QC35) to for late night study sessions and not wanting to bother roommates. Right now through the LP60 I can easily switch from speakers to Bluetooth but I do realize how much quality is being lost from playing vinyl over bluetooth . So I was thinking to exchange my player to the Lp3 and get a headphone amplifier (such as the magni 3). Now here is my question would there be a loss of quality if I use like this Aux switcher to be able to easily switch between my headphones and speaker? Now if there is any other way someone who has insight in another way I can go I can easily exchange any of the stuff I have already bought.

Thanks appreciate the help

I recently picked up a fairly beat up Pioneer PL-512 turntable and am almost done getting back up to good condition again. I just have two things I really gotta do at this point:

1. The dust cover is in real bad shape, which means it thankfully protected everything under it. It's very cloudy and has scratches, various marks, and part of the plastic is actually melted on the outside. It still works fine as a dust cover, but how should I go about cleaning it if it's possible?
   
   
2. The turntable came with a cartridge and needle; however, it has likely been well over two decades since the needle was put in, and I don't know if the cartridge is worth keeping. It doesn't have a single logo or model number on the cartridge or the needle, but looks exactly like an Audio-Technica CN5625AL. Maybe it's a clone? Would it be worth replacing the whole cartridge + needle or would replacing the needle be alright? I've aligned it and it sounds fine, although there's a good amount of surface noise across new and old records.

Great turntable! I'd also recommend getting one of these, which is super handy in keeping the dust off your records once you get started!

RE Amps:

You don't really need that pre-amp if you buy an amplifier with a "Phono" input. This serves the same purpose as a pre-amp, namely, converting the turntable's signal into something the amp can work with.

Something like This, for example. Many modern amps also have multiple inputs for your iPod, CD player, and whatever else you need, which is great! :D


Those pre-amps are useful if you already have an amplifier which does NOT have this phono input, which is often the case with modern stereos.

This turntable is probably the cheapest thing you can get NEW that has all of the bells and whistles that most serious vinyl listeners would recommend. Anti skate, adjustable counterweight, pitch slider.

Pyle as a company is not known for making the best products, however it has a 1 year warranty which is more than enough time to: a) figure out if you even enjoy vinyl, and b) save up for a turntable upgrade.

With this amplifier and this phono preamp you still have 50 bucks or so for some speakers.

As I mentioned, Pyle is not known to be the best company and you will undoubtedly get more bang for your buck buying used gear. But if you're broke and just wanna listen to your records with a bare minimum "listen to your records half decent without damaging them" system shipped straight to your door, the Pyle stuff is your best bet.

1. Yes, it's a good entry-level turntable and is easy to both use and set up.
   
2. If you want speakers you can hook up straight to your turntable without any extra equipment you'll be looking for powered/active speakers. The Micca PB42X should be pretty decent, and the M-Audio Studiophile AV 30 should be alright as well. If you plan on getting a power amp or a receiver (so you can use passive speakers) you could look into the Pioneer SP-BS22, the Polk T15, or the Micca MB42X.
   
3. Nothing if you buy powered speakers. For passive speakers you'll need either a receiver or a power amp.
   
4. Radiohead - Kid A

[$400] Need some help with a full setup. [Austin, TX, USA]

Currently coming from an LP-60 paired with 7.1 Onkyo TX-SR506 surround sound setup in a shared room and this new setup is for my bedroom.

I'm pretty much set on the Fluance RT81 ($250), however, I'm unsure if I should get a cheap AV receiver + passive speaker bundle for $100-200 on CL (using the receiver+passives for my 4K TV might be nice), or if I should consider powered speakers: Edifier R1280DB - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0719C132V and skip the receiver. For the time being, I'll probably be skipping the preamp in favor of Fluance's built in one. Please help me decide on the speakers!

> There were certain biodegradable plastic inner sleeves used in the 1980s

Interesting! I picked up a copy of "This is the Moody Blues" from a flea market recently. Looks like it was produced in the mid 70s. I don't think it was a biodegradeable sleeve, but the inner sleeves WERE all plastic (of some variety).

When I inspected the records, it looked like they were in awful condition. Then I gently wiped at the surface of the record and low and behold it was a just some super fine dust that had rubbed off those old plastic sleeves! I grabbed the discs, brought them home, and cleaned them with my trusty In The Groove. After a cleaning those records shined!

I replaced those awful sleeves and have been enjoying the records ever since. I'd never seen or heard of these plastic sleeves or this awful dust they left before.

I decided to pair my Audio-Technica LP120USBHC with:

YAMAHA A-S201 Integrated Amplifier and Polk Audio T15 Passive Speakers

Before making the purchase, I need to make sure they'll work perfectly together.

1. I've heard the amplifier should be 50% more powerful than the Speakers:
   
   Polk Audio T15:
   -Recommended Amplifier Power Per Channel: 20 watts → 100 watts
   
   Yamaha A-S201 Integrated Amplifier - Black
   -Power Output - Watts per CH 100 x 2
   
   I believe this is more than enough?
   
   Also, everything seems ok in terms of impedance (Speaker=8 Ohms and the amplifier can handle that).
   
   So, what else should I look out for in this case or in general when trying to match an amplifier with speakers?
   
   Also, when it comes to picking the amplifier, should I be looking for any other particular feature?
   
   Thanks!

I'm trying to help a friend setup his speaker system with a new vinyl player. He has these bookshelf speakers currently
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-5-1-4-2-way-bookshelf-speakers-pair-black/8959098.p?id=1218957873370&skuId=8959098

He needs an audio receiver, and I've been looking on Amazon for one for him. Would this do? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0044779H2

I just need to know if there are certain things I should be looking out for. I don't want to buy it and bring it over to help him set it up only for it to not work or not provide enough power for his 80W bookshelf speakers. Thanks for the help in advance guys!

The Urturn you linked is a fine table, however it will not work with the speakers you linked to out of the box. The Uturn has the option of coming with a built-in phono preamp, this is not the same as an amplifier for speakers.

Basically, the audio chain for a turntable is:
Turntable --> Phono preamp --> amplifier --> speakers
These don't have to be four separate components- powered speakers have the amplifier built in to them, and some amplifiers and turntables have the phono preamp built in.

How you want to achieve this is up to you: separate components take up more space and add in complexity while also allowing you to upgrade pieces. If you want a simple setup that will sound decent, the best option might be the uturn with the built in preamp, and a set of powered speakers like these or these. The speakers you linked are passive and if you want to use them you will need an amplifier like this which also has a phono preamp built-in.

The Urturn comes with a cartridge- most entry to midlevel turntables do (only really high-end tables come without them) so you don't need to worry. As for cables, everything in the audio path I listed above is connected with RCA cables except amplifer to speakers, which use speaker wire like this

If a record just has a little dust or a hair or something, I'll roll over it with my in the groove record cleaner. It's a great value, and I highly recommend it. Just don't drop the thing, they break easily.

If a record needs a quick wet cleaning I'll use an old RCA discwasher I stole from my parent's house.

When I buy a used record I thoroughly clean it with a homemade solution and microfiber cloth.

For that budget (more or less) I would choose:

-Turntable: Pro-ject ESSENTIAL PHONO. Includes a very decent cartridge. 299$. It is worth it spending the extra 30 bucks.

-Amp:Sherwood RX-4109 99$. That is only if you want a new one, and from amazon. For that price you could find something better but used, or you could search a bit more for sales. But for the price it is a solid choice.

-Speakers:Sony SS-B3000. 75$ Those look decent. There is a lot of choice in budget speakers, but those are good bang for the buck from those offered at Amazon.

Total 475$ instead of your 433$ (cables excluded). The amp I suggested has a phono stage too, so for 500$ you are ready to go. Whatever you choose, don't try to save money on the TT. If 300 is too much for you, you could get a used one that would be still better and cheaper that the Audiotechnica.

would you pay $90 for it? because it was in fact reissued.

it's kinda pricey still, but i got mine free with rewards points, along with the aeroplane flies high. it has the original tracklist/order, is a beautiful box set, and is a better pressing than the original (which i also own).

So. Holy shit. This answers every question I had and then some. Thank you so much!

Right now I have powered speakers that don't require a receiver in order to play but it sounds to me like there's not a whole lot of headroom. This is what I was planning on upgrading to: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0719C132V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_55DYDbT4Q8E22

It seems like I'll be able to do more with these in general, and I'll stick to that receiver so that seems like a good combo! And then I can add a new cartridge (I was looking at the brand you mentioned anyway).

The submersion in the cleaning fluid is what really does the trick with the spin clean. I used to have a velvet brush that I would wet with cleaning fluid and then water and had mixed results.

I would highly recommend the spin clean. Keep in mind new records may be somewhat dirty but when I say dirty I mean filthy records with smoke, fingerprints and general gunk on them like the kind you find at thrift shops. Your new records cannot be that dirty. But one new thing I purchased recently that I have incorporated into my cleaning routine is the In The Groove record cleaner. I use this first on new records to get rid of the mould release agent, then I clean with the spin clean, then i run a rinse with the spin clean and then use my antistatic device.

https://smile.amazon.com/In-The-Groove-Record-Cleaner/dp/B004MG9YYQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1484277422&sr=8-2&keywords=in+the+groove+record+cleaner

Fluance or project. No preamp, buy a decent amp from Amazon that has a phono stage. Something like the Sony 190, it comes with Bluetooth for streaming. You can have both plus some pioneer bookshelf speakers from right around the 500 mark. Then you can add other components as you come across them in the classifieds.
I have this Sony amp, it's nice. Look for an open box, you'll save a couple bucks.

Sony STRDH190 2-ch Stereo Receiver with Phono Inputs & Bluetooth https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078WFDR8D/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_NCElDbBH62Y5B

Fluance RT80 High Fidelity Vinyl Turntable Record Player with Premium Cartridge, Diamond Stylus, Belt Drive, Built-in Preamp, Adjustable Counterweight & Anti-Skating, Glossy Black Wood Cabinet https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01F2B3FKI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_nDElDb8E6PHK7

Pioneer SP-BS22-LR Andrew Jones Designed Bookshelf Loudspeakers(7-1/8" x 12-9/16" x 8-7/16" & weighs 9 lbs 2 oz) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008NCD2LG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_YDElDbNC88WH9

These three things are all you need to get started, allowing you to listen to vinyl and stream from your phone.

Look for the CD, MD, and cassette deck in Thrift shops. You'll find then cheap.

Good luck.

PS: fluance is a Canadian company I believe.

Yamaha R-S300BL Stereo Receiver (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0044779H2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_NbpkxbE8HXM4H

EDIT: Use the HDMI inputs on your TV.

If you must have an HDMI AV receiver, it will be at least 5.1., and you will need an external phono preamp. My recommendation would be Marantz NR1504 Slim Line 5.1 Channel Home Theater Network AV Receiver with AirPlay https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BLZDKX2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_9epkxb1GRQX11

The Yamaha will sound better for vinyl. The Marantz will likely sound better for everything else.

SECOND EDIT: if you need digital inputs then you'll have to up your budget to $550. That will get you 2.1 with digital inputs and a built-in phono stage (will only accept LPCM 2 channel, won't down mix 5.1). This thing would be great. Yamaha A-S501SL Natural Sound Integrated Stereo Amplifier (Silver) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MXUCMWO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_WhpkxbY9HE6YG

Okay, here we go then. I'll give a few options for each component

Turntable:

• Rega Planar 2 £375
  
  
• Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Espirit £404
  
  Phono Preamplifier:
  
  
• Pro-Ject Phono Box Mk2 £88
  
  
• Musical Fidelity V90-LPS £159
  
  Speakers:
  
  
• Audioengine A2+B Powered Speakers £195
  
  
• Audioengine A5+ Powered Speakers £350
  
  
• Klipsch R-15PM £435
  
  Any left over money I'd recommend spending on the following accessories:
  
  
• Stylus Tracking Force Gauge £7.99
  
  
• Carbon Fiber Anti-Static Brush £16.95
  
  
• Mitchell Record Clamp for Rega Turntables £35.00
  
  
• Onzow Zerodust Stylus Cleaner £41.00
  
  
• Spin Clean Record Washer £89.00
  
  Any of this would be a good setup that would give you pretty nice sound. I've opted to suggest powered speakers to avoid the cost of a separate amp/receiver. This allows more of your budget to be spent on the table and speakers.

Get a headshell. I bought this one for my M3D, because I like matchy things: http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-SFPCC31001K-Technics-HEADSHELL/dp/B003DY5Q4K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1373593809&sr=8-1&keywords=technics+headshell

Shure M97xE is a good choice if you are looking for lower end cart, a bit higher and I would go with the AT440mla, which is excellent.

No matter how you accessorize, great find, and enjoy!

[Budget: Below 1k.]

Hello, everyone! I never really thought I would ever get into vinyl at all, but after acquiring a few choice albums I really enjoy listening to, I figured I would start the journey! I've been doing some research, and I was wondering how these pieces work out for starting out (Wanted to remain under $1k for the entire thing.).

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GA9COMM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER (Audio Technica AT-LP120)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008NCD2S4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER (Pioneer SP-FS52 Speakers)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EE18O7W/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER (Onkyo TX-8020 Stereo Receiver)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009RT2IAK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER (And some Banana Plugs to connect it all, of course.)

Any feedback is greatly appreciated!

This is the amp I have. I think it's great, although I'm not an audiophile. It got very good reviews for being an excellent value for the price.

There are some excerpts from reviews on this page.

Hi folks. I'm sorry for asking a pretty simple question but after looking at some of these helpful guides, I am still in over my head. I have a beginner set up 1byone turntable (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GO1SP1E/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza) and I wanted to have some better sound when playing the blues. So I picked up the Polk T15 speakers (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002RJLHB8/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza) that were on sale and well regarded from reddit users.

I am having a lot of trouble figuring out how to get this all set up. I think I need to pick up a phono turntable pre amp? Would really appreciate any direction or advice. Again sorry for the basic Q.

Yes, being a linear tracking turntable helps to minimize tracing error from start to finish of the LP. It's P-mount so the VTF is already set at 1.25 grams, which is enough to prevent mistracking.

They get a bad rap, but that's because overtime the rails that the tonearm glide across get gunked up and it stops working. Clean it up, relube it, and it will work fine. Also, there's a tiny belt that attaches to the motor and a wheel that allows the tonearm to move to the left. If it's loose, it won't function properly. If it's not loose and can perform its duty, then you're fine for now BUT you really ought to replace it.

The Audio Technica 6006 cartridge is an older model of the modern AT90/92E/311EP/3482 series of cartridges. They're all P-mount. The 6006 should be closest to the AT311EP since they both have an output of 5.0 mV and a .3 x .7 elliptical stylus. I use an AT3482P on my LT turntable and enjoy it very much. The AT92ECD is also nice, though IMO I prefer the AT3482P because it isn't as bright. You don't have to buy a new cartridge, but in this case it makes sense because 1) it's cheaper and 2) you will get a stylus protector with a new cartridge.

Before you go playing any records (I know, it's tempting), make sure to replace the cartridge/stylus and ensure that the tonearm is functioning properly. Linear tracking P-mount units can be a pain in the ass to get working, but once you do you will have a hassle free turntable.

Well I say wood, but it's more of that crappy particle board stuff. They work really great though.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000O1FROO/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1501461764&sr=8-7&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Record+holder&dpPl=1&dpID=317Aa5KyRLL&ref=plSrch

Looks more like $12 but the prices fluctuate. I've got 4 of them now. They easily link together.

Thanks for the graphite tip! I think I'll try that because the burning probably isn't doable for this material.

do you already have any kind of turntable? if not, i'd recommend doing this:

this turntable for $70.

this cartridge for $45.

this preamp for $80 converts to USB and seems pretty solid.

that comes to probably $250 including shipping (if you don't have amazon prime). you can spend any part of the remaining $100 on a better cartridge which will improve sound quality at every price increase. audiotechnic makes very solid low-end carts.

edit: or you could skip the USB preamp and spend the cash on another preamp and a new soundcard with a line-in and some cables (the cables don't need to be fancy).

Pro-Ject Debut III ($300, free ship): http://www.amazon.com/PRO-JECT-DEBUT-MATTE-BLACK-TURNTABLE/dp/B000CDHQK2

ART DJPRE II phono preamp ($49, free ship): http://www.amazon.com/ART-II-Preamplifier-Outputs-Switchable/dp/B000AJR482/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1375872010&sr=8-4&keywords=phono+preamp

Grado SR80i headphones (because shipping speakers sucks! $99, free ship): http://www.amazon.com/Grado-Prestige-SR80i-Stereo-Headphone/dp/B000G3LCQC/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1375872251&sr=1-1&keywords=grado

Fiio E6 amp ($26.14, free ship): http://www.amazon.com/FiiO-E6-Portable-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B005HJWWW8/ref=pd_sim_e_5

This is one of the many solutions you can do with $500 if you must have brand new.

exactly, i totally agree, but i feel that they make "limited" coppy's to show that the band dose in fact still have "hardcore" fans, or they just get kocky and think its all special and price it to fucking $500 or something (still pretty pissed that the smashing pumpkins:Mellon Collie & the Infinite Sadness remake is nearly $80 on vinyl, I MEAN LOOK AT THAT,AND IT'S NOT EVEN A LIMITED, OR SPECIAL EDITION COPPY!
http://www.amazon.com/Mellon-Infinite-Sadness-Smashing-Pumpkins/dp/B008Z9L94O/ref=sr_1_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1374892518&sr=1-2&keywords=smashing+pumpkins

PS. love the nirvana in utero reference!

Howdy y'all... first time posting in one of these question threads but let's see how it goes:

What's the difference between these two cartridges?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002OSWGLM/

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004NRVUMI/

(also, if you have any recommendations for a budget - sub-$50 - cartridge replacement for a Technics SL-D3 I'd be interested to hear 'em. Thanks in advance!

:)

Here is one for a little over $100. HH Gregg had it for $99 (plus tax) but I'm not sure if they still do. Very affordable and will give you a pretty decent sound. But definitely look at thrift stores and flea markets for good used speakers. http://www.amazon.com/Sherwood-RX-4109-Stereo-Receiver-Black/dp/B000MBUSD6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409084434&sr=8-1&keywords=sherwood+rx-4109

You might want to keep an eye on this set from amazon.ca. The price has been fluctuating over the last few weeks, usually staying under or over $50. I've actually seen it hit $36 at one point. Right now its $48 with free shipping which is ok considering shipping from the states might cost more because its a box set. Good luck!
http://www.amazon.ca/Mellon-Collie-Infinite-Sadness-Vinyl/dp/B008Z9L94O

Off the top of my head, I would recommend something along these lines:

• Turntable: Pro-ject Debut III - Link Entry level hifi TT, you won't get upgrade fever any time soon. <$400
  
• Amp: The only good options that are new would be an integrated amp from Marantz, Yamaha, or the likes. I'd recommend you search eBay and Craigslist, and you can find a great vintage receiver for under $300.
  
• Speakers: Again, I think used is the way to go here. You could buy new but you'll pay more undoubtedly. I'd recommend you spend the rest of your cash on the loudspeakers, and then blow whatever you have left on LPs.

I've been stalking craigslist for an old Marantz or Pioneer receiver but haven't had any luck yet. I was thinking of getting something new/cheap like the Sherwood RX-4109 but I haven't pulled the trigger yet. Hopefully I can stay strong and hold out for something vintage.

I recommend these:

https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-15PM-Powered-Monitor-Black/dp/B01A7J534G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479322474&sr=8-1&keywords=r15+pm+klipsch

https://www.amazon.com/U-Turn-Audio-Orbit-Turntable-Black/dp/B00YQ6B396/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479322533&sr=8-1&keywords=u+turn+orbit

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/google-chromecast-audio-black/4532100.p?skuId=4532100&ref=212&loc=1&ksid=b9026f1f-e325-4276-8133-249263fd9844&ksprof_id=16&ksaffcode=pg72903&ksdevice=c&lsft=ref:212,loc:2

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MCS2ZLO/ref=sxr_pa_click_within_right_1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=2329824862&pf_rd_r=H70DTYPT16GTYCXQ2CFC&pd_rd_wg=hShMQ&pf_rd_s=desktop-rhs-carousels&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_w=eQHOV&pf_rd_i=speaker+stands+30&pd_rd_r=GNYQHZ851XV5J0WVQ3D0&psc=1

The Klipsch are a speaker system with a receiver built in.
This is a complete home music system and you wont need to buy anything else.

Or if you want to have separate components I recommend this:

https://www.amazon.com/Fluance-Elliptical-Counterweight-Anti-Skating-RT81/dp/B01F2EXIFM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479323335&sr=8-1&keywords=fluance+rt81

https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-R-S202BL-Stereo-Receiver/dp/B01EMQI2CU/ref=sr_1_3?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1479323363&sr=8-3&keywords=yamaha+stereo+system

https://www.amazon.com/KEF-Q300B-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers-Black/dp/B00CE3LG9U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479323386&sr=8-1&keywords=kef+q300

and speaker stands.

These are budget recommendations that will get you good sound and good quality. If you want to go crazy on high end stuff you will want to do more research on the audiophile sub.

Hey guys! I've been lurking this subreddit since I picked up my first record a couple months ago. Since then, I've been researching budget turntables, and decided to buy this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01F2B3FKI/ref=twister_B01KI5736U?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 turntable and this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000A36LQ4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 pre-amp.
I went scouring the pawn shops today and came across this http://imgur.com/a/2Lt0j amplifier. I liked the look of it, and figured you couldn't really go wrong with an '89 or '90 Kenwood amp. I took it home for $50, and realized there is no volume control! Apparently this model (KM-208) was originally sold with a pre-amp that had all of the volume controls. I have 30 days to return it, but if possible, I wouldn't mind rigging up a volume dial. Is this amp worth the work, or should I return it? As of now I don't have any speakers, but I'm willing to spend up to $250ish. I'm also considering building my own with the same budget.

TL;DR I'm new to vinyl ad so far have collected a TT, a pre-amp, and would like your opinion on the amp I bought.

Thanks for reading. I'm looking forward to your feedback!

Hey everyone, beginner here. I'm looking for some entry level equipment and was wondering what you guys think of this:

I saw in the recommended turntable list the Crosley C100A and the Crosley C200A and i'm thinking of pairing one of them with the Edifier R1280DB powered bookshelf speakers and i'm wondering if anyone has any experience with these?

I have a small space and i like the optical input so i can also use them with my TV, they seem to have great reviews, i'm just wondering what you guys think for someone looking for an all-in-one solution on a budget (budget hasn't been determined yet but i'm thinking less than $500)

Thanks everyone!

There are plenty of inexpensive options. Milk crates work. Something like this is the perfect size for records as well:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000O1FROO/

Keeping your records stacked like that can lead to them warping over time.

So I've been thinking about upgrading from my original turntable. It's a Crosley (not a cruiser) I got for dirt cheap, I figured it would a good starting one to see if I wanted to continue with this hobby, I do. Now I wanted to upgrade, my budget is 350 U.S. dollars (Maximum). I wanted to know what you guys recommend, I was looking into getting this one here https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01F2B3FKI/ref=psdc_3003611_t3_B01F2EXIFM. I also wanted to know what else I would need if I purchased this player. I have speakers, but the wires aren't plugs, they just end with the metal poking out. I don't know if that's compatible with other speakers and players. Thanks so much.

Note: I don't have to get the one I mentioned, It was just something I saw that looks like it would give me room to buy the other things I needed

That list is really helpful for looking at different models, but you're right, it doesn't always specify whether they are powered or not. I've been really happy with these. I have them supplied by a passive A/B switch that is also connected to an apple TV solely used for streaming music.

You'd be infinitely better off with a regular vacuum and one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/Vinyl-Vac-Record-Vacuum-Attaches/dp/B014X2SXY0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496688731&sr=8-1&keywords=record+cleaning+vacuum+attachment

FWIW, I use a spin clean and then vacuum with this on a busted up turntable, and I've been really happy with the results.

One possibility that has respectable sound on a budget and gives you future flexibility is this ART: http://www.amazon.com/ART-USB-Phono-Plus/dp/B000BBGCCI/ref=pd_cp_MI_1

I bought one of these at the same time as the ART, but it didn't mesh well with my system at the time, so I returned it. It is however, tube driven and has a more robust headphone section than the ART: http://www.amazon.com/Bellari-VP130-Preamplifier-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B002TD4GME/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1407099671&sr=1-1&keywords=headphone+phono+preamp

Or something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Little-Dot-MKII-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B00A2QMAI2/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1407099671&sr=1-6&keywords=headphone+phono+preamp#productDetails

I'm trying to build a simple setup, using this turntable:


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IIMXATU?psc=1&smid=A2XGE4CX5AV74X


connected with RCA cables to these speakers:


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01A7J534G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1FVGXDO8NIMN0&psc=1


The way I understand it is, the turntable requires a preamp, but the speakers have phono inputs so I won't need one. Further, I won't need an amplifier or receiver since the speakers are active. Will this setup work? Thanks!

I'm looking into purchasing speakers for my Rega Planar 2 and [these Edifier R1280DB speakers] (https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1280DB-Bluetooth-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B0719C132V/ref=sr_1_35?s=cyber-monday&psr=EY17&ie=UTF8&qid=1511798399&sr=1-35&keywords=speaker) are on sale on Amazon.

These are powered speakers, so I won't need an amplifier, and they have the proper cable inputs. I couldn't find anything that says anything about an included Phono Stage though, but I did see it [here] (https://www.turntablelab.com/products/audio-technica-at-lp60-turntable-edifier-r1280db-speaker-package-ttl-setup) included in a turntable bundle, so I'm not sure.

Anyone have any information on these speakers? Also, do these sound nice? Thanks.

Edit: [Found these Edifier R1280T speakers] (https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1280T-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B016P9HJIA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1511799973&sr=8-1&keywords=edifier+r1280t). I believe these do have the Phono Stage pre-amplifier included so I might get these with a little more research.

Fucking A, man! Buy it! finding a replacement headshell is easy!
Also, When you get a 2m red that solves both the cartridge and the needle problem. Just so you know, a cartridge usually comes with a stylus attached to it. Also this is a nice Oretofon headshell!

EDIT: here is a nice Technics headshell, by the way.

I got two of these.

They were cheap and with Prime shipping got it real fast. They seem pretty solid and have decent reviews. They are modular, but only vertically. I would recommend if you are on a budget. Also, it comes in white, black, or natural wood.

You need one of these. Expensive, looks stupid, but works great.
http://www.amazon.com/MILTY-ZEROSTAT-ANTI-STATIC-GUN-BLUE/dp/B0033SHDSS

Use only as directed. Despite what it looks like, it's not a toy and you can actually burn your skin with a point-blank shot.

Looking to get a new turntable during black friday sales. This one seems to be a good deal

https://www.turntablelab.com/products/denon-dp-300f-turntable-ortofon-2m-red-upgrade

my budget is $300 max as I want to pick up some speakers too, something like these:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002RJLHB8/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I10HZZRH7TN44N&colid=1MNHREKK5JRF3

If anyone has any other suggestions, I'd greatly appreciate it.

This Pro-Ject looks great and I hear the cartridge that comes with has good sound too! It does need an amp though, do you have any amp recommendations? Think it just needs phono in.

It looks similar to the AT CN5625AL with a third party replacement.

The AT3600 and 3600L are suitable replacements. It's a decent cart, but you can upgrade if you wish to a AT95E which isn't a massive difference in price from the CN, but it will offer a different stylus. The AT universal mounts are also decent. Try one of the replacement styli I mentioned. and if they fit, that's probably the cart.

I like a microfiber cloth. It works super well, cheap, easy to clean.

They do cause static in low humidity environments, so a quick wipe with a fabric softener sheet takes that out.

If you have the scratch, however, this brush kicks all sorts of ass. It's not really a brush, but it wont static up your records and cleaning it is a cinch. IMO it works better than any brush.

I have a Spin Clean, which gets mentioned a lot. I'm seriously underwhelmed by it. The method detailed above is way more effective, and a heck of a lot cheaper. I also get really good results from my "In The Groove" sticky roller, which I almost never see mentioned here.

New records are some of the most filthy record you can get. Most are covered with mold release agents that you can see as a rainbow sheen on the surface. You should always clean new records before playing.

A record will never be any cleaner than the dirtiest you play it due to the fact that there is so much friction where the stylus hits the surface that the dust actually gets welded into the grooves and you can clean the surface but you will never be able to clean that dirt out of the grooves where it matters.

If you intend on listening to records long term a record cleaning machine is a necessary investment.

Edit: I would not use any old silicone roller meant for picking up pet hair. You should only use one specifically designed for record cleaning as it will not leave any residue. Something like this

In The Groove Record Cleaner https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004MG9YYQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_F7TIxbQVVXDCH

I've never actually owned one of these, but they have them for demo purposes at one of the shops in the area:

http://www.amazon.com/Bellari-VP130-Preamplifier-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B002TD4GME/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1451701608&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=phono+preamp+headphpone+amp

Plugs directly into TT that does not have a pre-amp, and gives you headphone amp.

Otherwise, to go the tubeless route would be cheaper. Pretty much any decent receiver/preamp will have a phono pre-amp and the ability to drive higher impedance headphones.

You are not going to get much love for the LP60, as it, and non-adjustable turntables, tend to have pretty bad build quality, heavy tracking and playback issues. Just something to think about.

If this does not bother you then I would recommend something along the lines of these: Integrated amp with phono and speakers.

It's probably a good turntable. I have the SLD3 which is the model before this. It sounds decent and is pretty well built. Plus it's full automatic so you press start and it moves the needle to the record then moves back when it's done. It's a good started. I moved up to a Pioneer because it sounds better but the Technics should be enough for now.

Here's the cartridge www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004NRVUMI/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1449166023&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70&keywords=at95e

Here's the headshell www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003DY5Q4K/ref=sr_ph_1?qid=1449166048&sr=sr-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70&keywords=Headshell

So, for light cleaning and pre-heavy cleaning, I go with this guy. It does a decent job at surface cleaning.

If I want to get a little bit deeper, especially if it's a used album I've not yet personally cleaned, I use this. It's an affordable way to wet clean your records.

I've been using this system for a while, and it works well. I was able to restore a discounted Blonde on Blonde to VG condition.

I would go for something with discrete tone controls (bass, treble, loudness, etc.). That's something to look for in a vintage amp/receiver. You don't need a home theatre one. If you want to spend a little more don't bother with the Yamaha R-S201 but get the next model up in the line, the R-S300 this has discrete tone controls and styling like the old 70s Yamahas and you'll also get some modern features with it like remote.

here's another budget cart i recommend, I believe it's an execellent value a "sleeper" thats under valued

http://www.amazon.com/Technica-CN5625AL-Half-inch-Standard-Cartridge/dp/B002OSWGLM/ref=pd_sim_267_4?ie=UTF8&dpID=31d-vwhWPzL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=0DGKC0HX9W4D2ZDF949R

When buying a used turntable, assume you will need to purchase a new stylus, at the very least. In the case of these tables, though, you can purchase a new cart (with new stylus) fairly inexpensively: https://www.amazon.com/Technica-AT3482P-Conical-Cartridge-Turntables/dp/B002OSWGLW

For the technics, I'd ask if they could put a record on and see if it plays. It it does, you should be good to go. When you get home, maybe give it a good cleaning.

Well, looks like I can get them for even cheaper now.

JBL LSR305

Thanks!

Hi everyone!

I just broke out my dad's old Technics SL-B20 turntable and am working on getting it back to working condition, and it has an Audio Technica LS450/LT cartridge.

I'm figuring I should replace the needle due to the age, but should I replace the cartridge as well? Would this be an upgrade to that cartridge?

Thanks!

I will use the Technics headshell and purchase the Audio Technica cartridge you recommended. Thanks again for the help!

Check out the Pro-Ject Debut III too. The carbon is a bit more at $400.

Also check out craigslist or ebay. And that budget you could get a killer used model that should be ready to go. I had perfect luck finding a technics that I played right when I got it home. The P mount model tone arms doesn't need to be balanced so it was very straightforward.

I'll second this, as I'm really digging it lately too. It's basically a sticky roller that picks up all dust/fuzz/etc in its path. Of course, it isn't intended to replace wet cleaning, but seems great for light maintenance.
Here's a link:
http://www.amazon.com/In-The-Groove-Record-Cleaner/dp/B004MG9YYQ

This person wants to be able to play from their phone wirelessly as well. I am thinking bluetooth capable powered speakers and a turntable w/ built in preamp. How does this sound for budget?

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0719C132V/ref=psdc_3236451011_t1_B07CB8KTFN?th=1

Gratz on ditching the Crosley. If i might throw in a little:

1. That vintage TT will likely need a new cartridge. As you are just getting going, this here is inexpensive but still decent, an Audio Technica CN5625AL. $20. (all prices assume you have Amazon Prime or know someone who does):
   
   http://www.amazon.com/Technica-CN5625AL-Half-inch-Standard-Cartridge/dp/B002OSWGLM/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1412614754&sr=1-5&keywords=audio+technica+cartridge
   
   
2. This new (but discontinued) Sherwood amp is very reasonably priced. Plus it has sweet sound and a phono input (no phono pre needed then). While buying vintage is awesome (i do it myself) you'll be less likely to have it die on you. $100.
   
   http://www.amazon.com/Sherwood-RX-4105-Receiver-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B0002EPWC0/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1412614688&sr=1-2&keywords=SHERWOOD
   
   
3. Dayton B652 speakers. You will not find better sounding speakers (new) at this price point. Plus they are dorm-friendly in size. $42
   
   http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-B652-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B002RMPHMU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1412615396&sr=1-1&keywords=dayton+b652
   
   $162 total. With your vintage TT and this rig you will be kicking ass sound-wise. Folks with 5 times as much money in their setups will be impressed.
   
   If you want to squeeze a little more sound out of the setup (and get a little closer to $200), think about an Ortofon OM Cart at $45, or some Pioneer SP-BS21 speakers at $80. But that's up to you. You can Amazon those yourself, I am getting tired of pasting links ;-)
   

I have a couple of these guys.

They're the perfect size to hold records, and I have my receiver and turntable on top of them. They stack fairly well and come with fasteners to attach them together.

That's interesting. Browsing Amazon yields this:

http://www.amazon.com/In-The-Groove-Record-Cleaner/dp/B004MG9YYQ/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t

Seems to be pretty much the same.

Alright so im sold on the Technics TT. Sadly the person with the sansui reciver is too far away for me to get to easily. So what im looking at right now is

Sherwood RX-4109 stereo receiver

BS-22 (prefer these over the floor standing ones because of price and size)

Is there anything else you recommend that would complete this setup or make it better?

Thanks!! I actually did end up picking up the Behringer, funny enough. Also, if anyone needs a cheaper P-mount cartridge I found this guy

would this work/ be a good option?

also is the turntable I have good?

I bought these. After some research they were an obvious choice. They sound good, especially for the price. They are $100 right now I believe, but they go on sale fairly often. Also, I bought the amazon refurbished option and they're like new.

I use a carbon fiber brush, but I just hold it in place so it only goes with the grooves. I then use this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004MG9YYQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1427659444&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70&keywords=in+the+grove+record+cleaner to clean up the line of dust left after I pick up the brush. Works well and doesn't really add static as long as you don't push down on the roller.

There's absolutely no need to buy a used record player. I burned myself buying a used one when I started. Anyhow. I'd spend most of that money on a turntable, so you have a good solid base to build upon in the future. A Pro-Ject Debut Carbon is juuuust within budget. Amazon It's quite a serious turntable actually. It has a carbon arm and a 2M Red cartridge, which itself can be easily upgraded to a 2M Blue in the future. Maybe you could find a good used Phono Box MM to go with that. I have one on my RPM 1 Carbon and I'm quite happy with it, despite usually being fairly reasonable. Having said that.. it's surprisingly expensive on Amazon in the UK, but they can be found on eBay. I'm afraid you just have to work with what you already got when it comes to speakers or headphones. Otherwise, a Essential may be a cheaper alternative. Amazon

I'd go with this for a starter turntable:
http://www.amazon.com/Pyle-PLTTB1-Professional-Belt-Drive-Turntable/dp/B00009V3TU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1381637268&sr=8-2&keywords=Pyle+turntable

It has all the basic components to not eat your records, and it's pretty good from what I've heard.

http://www.amazon.com/Pro-Ject-Debut-III-Audiophile-Turntable/dp/B000CDHQK2

This would sound excellent.
Mmmmmm.

I own a Realistic Lab 400, that I prefer over the debut III. But it has a nice cartridge on it and just looks damn cool.

The cantilever (shaft) is bent so the stylus is ruined. That's a Sony cartridge and isn't very good anyway so just get a whole new cartridge. The Sony headshell should be fine but you can replace it with a Technics if you want for $20 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003DY5Q4K/. Under $50 budget cartridges that are good for the money:

$20 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00006HO3L/

$35 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WYROYE0/

$40 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004NRVUMI/

Lastly, you can get a copy of the owners manual and service manual here if you create an account http://www.vinylengine.com/library/technics/sl-d2.shtml.

These are fun and fit the bill.

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If you can manage $250, the Yamaha R-S300BL will handle those speakers very well. I have been very pleased with mine, connected to my Technics 1300MK2 and Pioneer SP-FS52 speakers.

http://www.amazon.com/MILTY-ZEROSTAT-ANTI-STATIC-GUN-BLUE/dp/B0033SHDSS

if you got the cash I hear these are great, just don't shoot yourself with it

Hey-o,

I've got a setup question:
Will a pro-ject debut Carbon connect to Klipsch R-15PM speakers a Klipsch Reference subwoofer with the pro-ject phono preamp

Any advice is appreciated for speakers to go with this turntable! Thanks!

I have a pair of JBL LSR305s in my living room -- the more I listen to them, the more I love them.

The problem with most studio monitors is that they're designed for mixing, so they reveal all the inaccuracies of a bad mix in a very obvious way. But when an album is beautifully mixed, they shine. Hi-Fi speakers typically smooth out and cover up those inaccuracies. Most studio monitors also have a very flat, cold, accurate sound, which makes it difficult to listen to them for long periods of time, you start to feel fatigue.

The LSR305s have a slightly warmer sound than your typical studio monitors, so you can listen to them for hours on end, and they sound outstanding -- to my ears they outperformed monitors that cost more than double.

If anyone's looking for a sub-$500 setup, you should check them out (they're $140 each: http://amzn.to/1lRrvsg); you can also add a JBL subwoofer for the low-end.

If you can bump up to $260 I think the JBL LSR305's are your best bet.

I have these Micca's and they sound great. Don't know what else to recommend at this price point aside from trying to get lucky on craigslist.
There's also the JBL LSR305 speakers. I haven't heard them myself (might spring for some in the future), but have heard nothing but rave reviews. The price point is a bit higher, however. http://www.amazon.com/JBL-Professional-LSR305-Studio-Monitor/dp/B00DUKP37C

Huge array of selections dependent on your price range. All you need is to be sure the receiver has a 'Phono' input on the back. Here are a few examples:

Onkyo A-8020 - 170 USD

Yamaha R-S300BL - 275 USD

Harmon Kardon 3770 - 400 USD

hm, there is another type of brush ... a velvet brush http://www.amazon.com/Pfanstiehl-Record-Cleaning-Kit/dp/B0042ASW5O/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1427812365&sr=8-10&keywords=velvet+record+brush. It is good for wet cleaning . There's also sticky tack cleaner (no experience) http://www.amazon.com/In-The-Groove-Record-Cleaner/dp/B004MG9YYQ/ref=pd_sim_sbs_p_5?ie=UTF8&refRID=0QB8H8EBMR5D3RMXVY01 and classic discwasher brush system http://www.amazon.com/RCA-RD-1006-Discwasher-Record-System/dp/B000KMZKTO/ref=pd_sim_sbs_p_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=0QB8H8EBMR5D3RMXVY01

i got one of these for xmas and it's great: https://smile.amazon.com/Vinyl-Vac-Record-Vacuum-Attaches/dp/B014X2SXY0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493767166&sr=8-1&keywords=record+vacuum

I used to have the SL-1400 an the SL-1500. They are all the same basic model, the difference being than the 1600 is fully automatic, the 1400 is semi-auto (return only) and the 1500 is fully manual.

I absolutely love these turntables, but I have a preference for the 1500 because it is the simplest. The return mechanism is a bit fragile on these 30+ year old machines.

Edit - About this cartridge: I don't know it, but it looks a bit worn. The headshell is funny too, with only one screw. The standard mount has 2 screws. I recommend getting a new cartridge (Shure MX97, Grado Black) and the original Technics headshell.

I bought this record cleaning brush and this record cleaning kit. I haven't cleaned the stylus since I just got the table. I ordered the Onzow Zerodust. As far as cleaning the skip issue on the record, you think a RCM would work? What about this?

The fact that the 2M Red cartridge tracks deeper is something I didn't know and that helps a lot!

Rule of thumb is to find a turntable which at least has anti-skate, an adjustable counter weight and the ability to change the cartridge. With these features, your records will last much longer and sound better. The TT you chose has none of the features mentioned.

It is usually advised to search craigslist, thrift stores, consignment shops, pawn shops and even garage sales to find a good deal on a feature packed, vintage TT. If you're too lazy to do that I recommend this turntable. It has all the features you'd want in a turntable, though you might want to upgrade the cartridge.

I don't mean to come off as a dick but if you did the studying and reading you said you did, you wouldn't have gone with the AT-PL60. Whenever someone posts here asking about this TT it is shot down without fail.

It depends on your headphones. What are you using? The line-level signal shouldn't really go straight into headphones so you'll need a power amp designed for headphones. There aren't a lot of combination phono preamp and headphone amp units; you might be better off looking for an older receiver that has both or considering buying separate phono pre and headphone amps.

This and this are the only combined things I can find on amazon.

Edit: The Behringer unit /u/jabfla linked would also be an option.

Hello! I got a pair of JBL LSR305's. I am using [these cables] (https://www.amazon.com/Hosa-Balanced-4-Inch-Cable-10-Feet/dp/B006EE7FEA/ref=sr_1_6?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1452142191&sr=1-6&keywords=TRS%2Bcable&th=1) to hook it up to a scarlet 2i2. What would be a good turntable to pair with my setup?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B008Z9L94O/ref=tmm_vnl_new_olp_sr?ie=UTF8&condition=new&qid=1453145894&sr=8-1

I have this one and it sounds wonderful

Are you aware of this thing? https://www.amazon.com/Vinyl-Vac-33-Record-Attaches/dp/B014X2SXY0 It's not terribly expensive and would probably work better than a piece of velvet with a hole in it.

I bought a single foremost from amazon. It's the right size for LPs and easy to assemble.

I have a bunch of these from Amazon. Mostly I have these blank ones, but I have the drawers and door ones to hold accessories like sleeves and brushes.

need help picking out a receiver

I recently bought a Technics Sl-BD20 as my first turntable
https://www.crutchfield.com/S-BSTqKQoW1DL/p_133SLBD20D/Technics-SL-BD20D.html

Then snagged some Polk speakers on sale at Fry's
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-T15-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B002RJLHB8

Now, I need help buying a receiver. Something powerful but cheap.

edit: need a receiver not an amp

So something like this should be fine?

Thanks! Got any opinions on this? https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B01F2B3FKI/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1511280949&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=FLUANCE&dpPl=1&dpID=41E51omKHQL&ref=plSrch

DUDE!

Smashing Pumpkins can be done.

There's a seller on amazon (fulfillment by amazon) selling like new box sets for $50 here

Hey everybody,
I’m very new to record players and vinyls as I’ve never owned any, however my girlfriend has a player an I quite enjoy it.
My question is if I were to buy this Fluance rt80 would I need an amp and speakers or should the sound produced from the player alone be sufficient.
Also does anyone have and/or know of this player?? Any thoughts?

Try one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Milty-Zerostat-Anti-Static-Gun-Blue/dp/B0033SHDSS

they're very effective in my opinion.

well, it looks like the post i made yesterday and the few people who said they got one, had it sell out at that price, its back to over 50. but here's the amazon link.
http://www.amazon.com/Mellon-Infinite-Sadness-Smashing-Pumpkins/dp/B008Z9L94O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1371137306&sr=8-1&keywords=smashing+pumpkins+vinyl just go to used...... mine was under warehouse deals, and was listed as used, i can't believe it was new, which is why i thought to come tell people who might be interested, maybe i shoulda stayed mum and bought them myself and traded for shit worth more than 30 bucks =( even at 50 i'd buy it........

If you do wind up getting speakers, I can't recommend these enough. Fantastic for the money.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008NCD2S4/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_5zx1tb07HT6XDW68

I use the zerostat. It's not at all perfect, but it does help here in the winter months.

http://www.amazon.com/JBL-Professional-LSR305-Studio-Monitor/dp/B00DUKP37C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1421984541&sr=8-1&keywords=JBL+LSR305+5%22+Active+Studio+Monitor&pebp=1421984537274&peasin=B00DUKP37C

how are these for active speakers?

I'll make it easy for you since you need simplicity.

http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-R-S300BL-Stereo-Receiver-Black/dp/B0044779H2/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1419743537&sr=8-13&keywords=Yamaha.+2+channel

Not even $400 and has a phono stage.