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u/TheBucklessProphet ยท 1 pointr/Jazz

I don't understand why you're limiting this to the 20s. That may be when the genre originated, but it didn't stop on 31 December 1929, and the people who played it later have just as much right to call their music Dixieland as those in the 20s. Branching beyond the 20's you have:

  • The Dukes of Dixieland [1948] (They at one point played with Armstrong, albeit not in the 20s)

  • Al Hirt's album Blockbustin' Dixie [1957]

  • Pete Fountain's Dixieland (Live in New Orleans) [1962]

  • Pee Wee Hunt's Dixieland Kickoff [1959]


    If you really want the 20's though:

  • "King" Oliver led a band called King Oliver and his Dixie Syncopators

  • Tom Brown's Band from Dixieland [admittedly this is prior to the 20s, but whatever]

    And, though I fear it may hurt my point,

  • Original Dixieland Jazz Band was actually somewhat influential, even if their leader was a racist. Bix Biederbecke was reportedly influenced by their recordings and even covered their charts, as did the New Orleans Rhythm Kings.

    >"New Orleans Style" is more accurate, more descriptive, and does not have a racist connotation -- so why cling to this other term?

    Really, "New Orleans Style" and "Dixieland" are the same level of descriptive. Neither of them explicitly says anything about the music, and if you'd never heard the term before you'd never be able to gather any useful information from the name. This is true for all genre designations (that I can think of), so "New Orleans Style" isn't preferable because of it's precision. In the end, it doesn't really matter what you call new music, but they style we're talking about has many historic names; you can't really go erasing some because they stir up vague feelings of oppression or white guilt. "Hot Jazz", "Dixieland", "Traditional Jazz", "New Orleans Style"...it's really all the same. Why let a racist ruin the term "Dixieland" from beyond the grave? Almost no one who uses the term "Dixieland" is trying to be offensive, and very few people have racist thoughts when they hear the word, so what's the point in trying to destroy it and vilifying those who use it?