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11 Reddit comments about The Making of Star Wars: The Definitive Story Behind the Original Film:

u/Mahaloth · 23 pointsr/StarWarsLeaks

This one and Rogue One need a "making of" book like these.

If access was given on that level, we might find out the truth.

u/BackOfTheHearse · 5 pointsr/movies
u/CanCalyx · 4 pointsr/StarWarsLeaks

The OT was in no way planned as the tragedy and redemption of Vader, that very much came out of the story sessions for ROTJ.

The Making of Star Wars: The Definitive Story Behind the Original Film https://www.amazon.com/dp/0345494768/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_2kAZDbST333GW

Read these three books, please.

u/IHaveThatPower · 3 pointsr/EmpireDidNothingWrong

An entertaining read! (I tend to gravitate towards transcripts over videos.)

As promised, a few critiques:

> Everyone had a “whoah, what the...?” moment when they first saw Jar Jar Binks...What’s the racial message here Lucas?...And what about the aliens that the Jar Jarians were fighting, these creatures that had flat faces and yellow, slanted eyes, and were all secretive…

This is a treacherous road to walk, because a lot of this outcry came from people outside of the cultural groups, assuming offense for those in them. I'm not remotely trying to exonerate Lucas for his decisions here and I'd be lying if I said I didn't immediately see those stereotypes, but given the actual thesis of the rest of your piece, I feel like this set of controversies--real or imagined--might be better left excluded.

> Then in the new movies, there's Queen Amalama ...dabadoo , whatever her name is.

"Amidala" is not a terribly difficult or silly name. The recurring mockery of it throughout feels out of place and doesn't add anything.

> We're seriously meant to believe that they couldn't defend a shed in the woods from a pack of plush toys with pre-bronze age technology?

The realities of the situation on Endor often get overlooked because of the Ewoks' external appearance. Take a look at what we actually know about them (and none of this is "creative reinterpretation" -- it's straight-up in the movie):

  • Ewoks build full, strong, permanent structures high up in Endors incredibly tall trees, implying incredible physical strength.
  • Ewoks have no qualms about eating other intelligence creatures, as explicit when they nearly cooked the Rebel infiltrators alive and as heavily implied later when we see Ewoks using bones to drum on Stormtrooper helmets during their celebration
  • Ewoks can rig up log traps using Endor's huge trees in a matter of hours or (at most) days, again implying a crazy amount of strength.

    Ewoks are small, furry, "cute" -- but are also roughly on par with wookiees in terms of physical strength!

    All military technology can be abstracted as a "force multiplier." A spear causes more harm than a fist. A blaster more harm than a spear. But physiology is also a force multiplier. A 10 kilo stone hucked by a scrawny human is not going to have the same capacity for harm that a 10 kilo stone hucked by a world-class pitcher does. Ewoks, as silly as it may superficially seem, are scary with "pre-bronze age technology."

    But even despite all of that, go back and watch how that battle plays out. After initial confusion in the Imperial ranks as the realization that they're under attack from a huge indigenous force that they previously had dismissed as harmless and docile, the Imperial forces are winning. The turning point in the battle comes only when a Rebel (Chewbacca) commandeers an AT-ST, granting the Rebel forces access to Imperial armor and bringing technological parity to the forces deployed on the battlefield. Only at this point do the Rebels start turning the tide of battle; before this, Ewoks are being slaughtered left and right.

    > You see, think of it like this. History is written by the victors. So maybe what George Lucas is doing is writing this whole series from a meta-contextual point of view, showing us history as it would be depicted if the forces of evil had won.

    > ...

    > If that's what George Lucas is doing, it's fucking brilliant. The hints are there, but you have to peel back the layers of propaganda to look for the real story.

    This is partly the premise on which this subreddit relies, but walking this line requires careful navigation. In particular, dismissing the movies purely as invented propaganda isn't terribly useful. If you have no canon on which to rely, you can't even have a discussion -- no matter who you favor. If, however, you take a limited view of the films-as-propaganda and assume everything depicted is "real" but it's edited in such a way to advance a specific narrative, then you have some room for interpretation that doesn't cast the baby out with the bathwater.

    That brings us to...

    > Was there really a death star? Everyone who supposedly witnessed a planet being destroyed by a “death star” are all dead now, except, by no coincidence, for Luke's sister.

    > It was Luke and the Jedi cabal who blew up Alderaan!

    This is where you lost me. If you go down this path, you've ditched canon and you're purely into fan fiction. That's fine; there's some great fan fiction out there, but it's not really something you can build a coherent, broadly-appealing argument out of the way you can when you limit the degree to which the films "lie" (namely: purely by omission, rather than actual distortion).

    > And then I saw Indiana Jones part four , and was reminded that, Lucas is just a hack .

    Lucas can't write a screenplay to save his life. There's a lot of "hidden" history to the development of Lucas's successful films and a great deal of it hinges on the moderating influence of his ex-wife Marcia. This book, in particular, is a remarkable look at how Star Wars came to be, far more in-depth than the better-known Rinzler book.

    But Lucas can spin a good story. This thread from a few days ago has quite a few people realizing or sharing the beat-for-beat story of the prequels, for example, and exposing through those beats that the story that plays out in the prequels is actually really cool. It just gets lost in a terrible set of scripts.

    > Still, we've got the story we've got, the most deceptive and seductive pro-fascist narrative ever written. The Jedi mind trick has been played on all of us. “This is not the hero's journey you were looking for.”

    I get a little frustrated with the characterizing of the Empire as "fascist." For some perspective, when it comes to Star Wars, I am (obviously) pro-Empire. But when it comes to (for example) Star Trek? The Federation is the sort of future that I want for our world. And I don't consider those views in conflict.

    Unfortunately, it's difficult to articulate all the reasons why with any brevity. Largely, it stems from the scope of the governing body vs. the sovereignty of member "states", the radical social and economic changes that occur in a post-scarcity (or, if not post-scarcity, at least super-tech) society, and a bunch of other high-concept ideas.

    "Fascism", though, is frankly too simplistic a political mindset to feel applicable to the Empire. As is nationalism more generally, really. Nationalism carries with it implicit assumptions of other nations and that's simply not what we're talking about with the Empire--it is the galaxy (with a few small enclave exceptions and unsettled areas).

    That aside, though, it's a fun read and I applaud the analysis.
u/gValo · 2 pointsr/StarWars

I got the new lego Falcon, the topps trading card SW book, a long sleeve raglan tee with the first order trooper helmet on it (can't find a link, they have it at Target), and the making of Star Wars coffee table book.

u/MCXL · 2 pointsr/CasualConversation

I rent out a room in my house to a guy who has been a really solid guy. Quiet, somewhat shy, tidy fellow, big time classic nerd (Room is filled with MTG, Pokemon Cards, Nintendo systems, X30, and a lot of star wars stuff).

Anyhow, money is always somewhat tight, but my gf and I really like this guy. So, we ordered him, The Making of Star Wars, The Definitive Story Behind the Original Film Which is an AMAZING book, probably one of the best of its kind.

But we didn't think that was enough. I figured that I would add on to the star wars theme, and I made him a 6 disc box set of the Star Wars: Despecialized Edition (article about it for those that don't know) I burned both Blu-Ray HD copies, and regular DVD, since he doesn't have an HDTV. I put the two discs for each film in some nice dual disc Blu-Ray boxes, and printed off these wonderful despecialized edition labels I found online as well.

Finally, ever since he moved in during the summer, he has not had a computer. Web browsing for him has been Xbox based, so, my GF talked to her mom about an old laptop/netbook that was laying around at her house. My GF installed ubuntu on it, and we gave it to him as an, "As long as you live here this is yours." type of gift.

I didn't notice any tears, but he was definitely very happy.

:)

u/beardsayswhat · 2 pointsr/Screenwriting

This book is expensive, but pretty exhaustive about George Lucas rewriting and making STAR WARS.

u/sugar_rhyme · 2 pointsr/movies

If you're interested in going down the rabbit hole, the "Making of Star Wars" series of books by JW Rinzler are a tremendously good read.

There's a book for each Original Trilogy movie.

u/5c2fd51a · 2 pointsr/starwarscollecting

Sweet collection! You should look into JW Rinzler's extensive making of books. Here's the first one: http://www.amazon.com/Making-Star-Wars-Definitive-Original/dp/0345494768 They are treasure troves of amazingly detailed behind the scenes info, photos, stories, interviews and just about anything and everything you could ever want to know about these movies. They will absolutely blow your mind. Highly recommended!

u/sreynolds1 · 1 pointr/movies

I just got this book the other week. It's outstanding, and has a ton of stuff I hadn't seen before.