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u/zabulistan · 19 pointsr/starterpacks

No, it's obviously supposed to be "faces". Haven't you ever heard expressions like "The Two Faces of [some abstract concept or institution]" - like these:

u/injusticehasbeendone · 2 pointsr/SelfAwarewolves

WOW. You've either been living under a rock, drank the cool-aid, or are just straight up lying since you are claiming not to know that white nationalist and white supremacist doesn't have a venm diagram that is almost just a circle.

No one in this conversation ever said being white was a crime or unequal. In fact I explicitly said there was nothing wrong with it at all so please cool your jumping to conclusions and stop putting the results of your lack of paying attention to what I wrote in my mouth.

Patriotism is a good thing. Nationalism is not. Here's a good comic to help remember the difference between them. https://smbc-comics.com/comic/an-important-distinction

White is a category historically defined by people in that category in order to justify mistreatment of those outside that category. That is why it is a bit weird to be proud to be part of that club. Irish people only became white (and therefore stopped being segregated and spat upon by white people) when people looking to maintain slavery needed their votes. That's just history. Chinese people would have probably become white if they were present in America as a substantial voting block at the same moment in history.

https://www.amazon.com/Invention-White-Race-Theodore-Allen/dp/1844677710/ref=pd_aw_sbs_14_1/138-9638101-7860931?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=1844677710&pd_rd_r=33b3afd0-4ca2-4f09-aec7-d5c89cdba1e3&pd_rd_w=7uYAR&pd_rd_wg=d08gN&pf_rd_p=1c5a26b5-ed76-40f7-b20c-b5d5bd4bc6be&pf_rd_r=31NH8JEN3HH63Q8CZWQX&psc=1&refRID=31NH8JEN3HH63Q8CZWQX

Now on to American history even though that's beside most of the actual points we were talking about since I want to address your last and odd point:

No one said settling North America was bad. I personally think the methods used for the invasion and genocide that came after were underhanded and despicable though typical of the time in a lot of places. One of the reasons for the revolutionary war was Britain wanted to actually respect the land treities made with the nations already on the continent which many American's hated for many reasons including the fact that they tied land ownership to freedom (and freedom is their God given right), and thought natives were lesser people or agents of the devil. This is all very well documented and an unfortunate but unarguable fact of history. If you are interested in learning a bit more about it check out this book: https://www.amazon.com/Two-Faces-American-Freedom/dp/067428433X

The abhorrent methods used by a nation of course doesn't make every member of that nation at the time guilty nor evil. It could mean that they did the wrong thing. There is a difference between being horribly wrong and doing evil things and being evil. Nor does it somehow make the descendants of that nation wrong or evil. What makes someone a responsible adult is acknowledging the past as it actually was good and bad, understanding the impact of that past, and working to do the right thing, to not repeat past mistakes, and to make the world a better place. We can't do anything about the past, but we can do something about the present and the future using our knowledge of how things came to be.

Though, regardless of what you think of American history, I do think your bar for what justifies a take over is super low dude. By that measure, China completely taking over and whiping out most of the Native population of Europe during the middle ages or early Rennaisance would have been completely A-OK since Europe at the time couldn't stop warring with itself and would eat parts of dead human bodies that they looted and drank the fresh blood of the condemned as medicine.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-gruesome-history-of-eating-corpses-as-medicine-82360284/

Happy Halloween with that link above; it is certainly gross and spooky. 😱🤮