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u/axolotl_peyotl · 43 pointsr/conspiracy

Hilary Koprowski used monkey and chimpanzee parts in his vaccines. One of the first places he began the forced vaccination was Leopoldville, the location of a major AIDS outbreak in the late 50's.

Sabin, the other main producer of the polio vaccine, analyzed Koprowski's "oral" vaccine and found that it was "unstable and contaminated by an unknown virus."

Incidentally, Sabin was also manufacturing a contaminated polio vaccine with a different lethal virus: SV40.

In response to Sabin's claims of contamination, Koprowski simply scoffed at him and said he was just trying to discredit his work (as he would do again and again to anyone making this accusation).

The Wikipedia page on the OPV AIDS hypothesis, in typical Wikipedia fashion, dismisses the hypothesis in the first paragraph, but then throughout the article lists several interest points and distinguished and established scientists who have taken this hypothesis very seriously.

Here's the logical fallacy that seems glaringly apparent to me: (from Koprowski's Wikipedia page)

"The OPV AIDS hypothesis has been widely rejected throughout the scientific community and is contradicted by modern research on the origin of the disease."

In other words, now that we now that AIDS actually originated in the early 1900's (and maybe even earlier), the "experts" use this to disprove the hypothesis that the Koprowski vaccine trials were the origin of AIDS.

But this misses the essential point of the issue: just because this event wasn't the origin of AIDS doesn't mean contamination didn't occur on a wide scale. The timing is too extraordinary.

Here's an excerpt from this book:

>From 1957 to 1960, after years of tinkering with monkey kidneys and polio germs, Dr. Hilary Koprowski tested his own experimental polio vaccine on 325,000 equatorial Africans, including 75,000 citizens of Leopoldville, Belgian Congo. 98% of the vaccine recipients were infants and toddlers. The youngest children received 15 times the adult dosage. Though Koprowski claimed he had the backing of the World Health Organization, WHO denied sanctioning the large-scale trials.

>In 1959, Dr. Albert Sabin reported in the British Medical Journal that Koprowski's polio vaccine used in the African trials contained an "unidentified" cell-killing virus. It was never identified. However, in 1986 the earliest known blood cample containing antibodies against HIV was traced back to 1959. The serum came from a patient visiting a clinic in Leopoldville.

>Koprowski's vaccine was not approved for human use, so it was discontinued in 1960 following the African trials. Thus, it was only administered to inhabitants of the Belgian Congo, Rwanda and Burundi--the precise area where high levels of HIV infection were identified by researched 30 years later. Furthermore, the AIDS virus is known to infect mucous cells, prevalent in the mouth. The African vaccines were squirted into people's mouths.

u/32OrtonEdge32dh · 2 pointsr/ModeratorWarning

This is for informational and speculative purposes only. This is not medical advice. Licensed health practitioners are available for this purpose.

Although the following tends to find fault with many vaccines and the vaccine industry, if you're going to read this, please review the copious amount data compiled by official sources of vaccine information, including the FDA, CDC, WHO, as well as the pharmaceutical companies themselves.

Only then will it become possible to have a serious, informed discussion about this unbelievably complex topic.

Too often are such conversations suppressed or dismissed because “the science is in” on the subject of vaccines.

This is an attempt to offer the decreasingly blasphemous view that the science is not, in fact, “in.”

This statement, and the following material, isn't meant to argue that the theory behind vaccination is flawed. Vaccines do work. This has been demonstrated again and again.

However...in humanity's desperation to overcome the terror of crippling pandemics, inexcusable and irreparable mistakes were made in the frantic rush to rid mankind of the devastating effects these diseases.

This isn't about autism. This isn't about global “population reduction” reduction programs.

This is about very real, and very frightening, mistakes that have made in the history of the development of vaccines.

This is about the obfuscation of the early history of vaccination...obfuscation which continues to this day, and which has the detrimental effect of stifling a serious debate on this vitally important subject.

Not only has the discussion on vaccine safety become completely polarized, but it also has devolved into a false dichotomy: you're either “pro”-vaccine or “anti”-vaccine. This has had the extremely unfortunate effect of severely limiting the conversation. Sadly, many important topics today have fallen victim to this false dichotomy.

Before continuing, I'd like to acknowledge a few books that opened my eyes to this controversial but fascinating field of research.

The first is The Virus and the Vaccine, a fascinating true story of the contamination of the polio vaccine with a cancer-causing monkey virus (full text available here).

The second is Dr. Mary's Monkey. Although I didn't use this book as a source, it's a thrilling story in its own right, and weaves together the JFK assassination, the contaminated polio vaccine scandal, and a secret project to develop a bio-weapon to kill Fidel Castro.

Lastly I owe much of this research to the indispensable Vaccine Safety Manual for Concerned Families and Health Practitioners.
The thousands of references provided have proved to be a veritable gold mine.

This is a work in progress. Please let me know if you find any typos, inaccuracies, or bad links.

The rest is continued in the following sections:

u/redditready1986 · 2 pointsr/conspiracy

u/conspirobot · 1 pointr/conspiro

axolotl_peyotl: ^^original ^^link

Hilary Koprowski used monkey and chimpanzee parts in his vaccines. One of the first places he began the forced vaccination was Leopoldville, the location of a major AIDS outbreak in the late 50's.

Sabin, the other main producer of the polio vaccine, analyzed Koprowski's "oral" vaccine and found that it was "unstable and contaminated by an unknown virus."

Incidentally, Sabin was also manufacturing a contaminated polio vaccine with a different lethal virus: SV40.

In response to Sabin's claims of contamination, Koprowski simply scoffed at him and said he was just trying to discredit his work (as he would do again and again to anyone making this accusation).

The Wikipedia page on the OPV AIDS hypothesis, in typical Wikipedia fashion, dismisses the hypothesis in the first paragraph, but then throughout the article lists several interest points and distinguished and established scientists who have taken this hypothesis very seriously.

Here's the logical fallacy that seems glaringly apparent to me: (from Koprowski's Wikipedia page)

"The OPV AIDS hypothesis has been widely rejected throughout the scientific community and is contradicted by modern research on the origin of the disease."

In other words, now that we now that AIDS actually originated in the early 1900's (and maybe even earlier), the "experts" use this to disprove the hypothesis that the Koprowski vaccine trials were the origin of AIDS.

But this misses the essential point of the issue: just because this event wasn't the origin of AIDS doesn't mean contamination didn't occur on a wide scale. The timing is too extraordinary.

Here's an excerpt from this book:

&gt;From 1957 to 1960, after years of tinkering with monkey kidneys and polio germs, Dr. Hilary Koprowski tested his own experimental polio vaccine on 325,000 equatorial Africans, including 75,000 citizens of Leopoldville, Belgian Congo. 98% of the vaccine recipients were infants and toddlers. The youngest children received 15 times the adult dosage. Though Koprowski claimed he had the backing of the World Health Organization, WHO denied sanctioning the large-scale trials.

&gt;In 1959, Dr. Albert Sabin reported in the British Medical Journal that Koprowski's polio vaccine used in the African trials contained an "unidentified" cell-killing virus. It was never identified. However, in 1986 the earliest known blood cample containing antibodies against HIV was traced back to 1959. The serum came from a patient visiting a clinic in Leopoldville.

&gt;Koprowski's vaccine was not approved for human use, so it was discontinued in 1960 following the African trials. Thus, it was only administered to inhabitants of the Belgian Congo, Rwanda and Burundi--the precise area where high levels of HIV infection were identified by researched 30 years later. Furthermore, the AIDS virus is known to infect mucous cells, prevalent in the mouth. The African vaccines were squirted into people's mouths.

u/nxne · 1 pointr/conspiracy

I found this book really helpful on info on vaccines - tons of scientific evidence and examples of adverse effects from vaccines. Vaccine Safety Manual by Neil Miller