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u/TamidMT · 18 pointsr/MensRights

>I think that was the point of the poster...

Violence against men is most definitely not the point of the poster, but I think you both know that and this is a misunderstanding.

This is a big(oted) ad campaign here, targetted at men and boys, about stopping violence against women by respecting women from a young age. "The cycle of violence against women starts with disrespectful behaviour", the ad claims, harmfully engendering the issue and incredulously ignoring those with a Y-chromosome. "When we excuse these behaviours in our kids, we let it grow", it continues, conveniently degendering the audience by using the word 'kids' instead of the 'boys' who they are pretty clearly trying to guilt. The TV ads are even worse. "Men are always, always the perpetrators and the women are always, always the victims". We can optionally question the ulterior motives of telling men to respect women.

The fatal fundamental problem with this A$30-million campaign is that they're painting men with an extremely broad brush, strawmanning them into something that they're not. Those behind the campaign have started with a faulty assumption and have reached a very harmful conclusion that they're spouting out at a national level. 'The ends justify the means' in their world, and they're completely oblivious to the damage it's doing to the characters and mindset of boys and men. They aren't just being insulted - they are being demonised. There is precedence for me to believe that the accusative approach to this issue is bound to have an adverse affect.

People assert and claim that men can't be loving and tender, but I now see it all the time and all around the country, from the working class city pubs to outback country towns. The reason I see it is because I treat men empathetically and don't blame them for everything that's wrong with our culture. I suspect this is also a major contributor as to why "men don't open up" or why "men are unable to express their feelings": there's a learned helplessness and distrust that men have when they sense that they will cop the blame. I've lived it repeatedly in private male-only groups of varying sizes: men have far less trouble opening up when the people around them are ones they can trust wholeheartedly. Men are hurting, and they've been cultured by everyone, not just other men, not to say anything. They are constantly told to shut up and put up. Women can't hear what men don't say, and men won't speak when society doesn't listen.

The cycle of contempt for men starts with non-empathetic behaviour, and when we excuse these behaviours in our kids, we let it grow.

u/kanuk876 · 2 pointsr/MensRights

<sigh>

Even the tagline is biased with lies.

The theory "doofus dad does less around the house" only holds water when you discount male-dominated chores, like cleaning the gutters, mowing lawns, fixing cars, etc.

This have been debunked numerous times by better people than I.

Pls spare us.

Or better yet, read Farrell.

> Married women have almost two more hours of leisure time per week than their husbands. Mothers with children five and older have one hour more of free time per week. To my surprise, mothers with preschool children averaged three hours more per week of free time than dads with preschool children. *

  • Quote is from Farrell, referenced from John P. Robinson, "Up Close and Personal," American Demographics, Vol. 11, No. 11, November 1989, pp 10.
u/[deleted] · 1 pointr/sex

> We all know females get laid 10x easier than males.

Have a source for that number? :) I understand what you are saying though. Women are conditioned by society to withhold sex until the third date and screen partners based on attraction, respect, emotions, intellect and sometimes success (Source: Women can't hear what Men don't say). Where as men are encouraged to be hypersexual and screen partners based only on attraction and maybe personality. In the rare event that a woman want's to have a fling, there's an amble pool of willing and able partners. This creates the illusion that all women are getting laid 10x easier.

u/TheOldGuy54 · 1 pointr/MensRights

After being a conservative for my whole life, about 5 years ago I started moving toward the center. I now see my self as member of the centrist party. I will leave a link on that party below.

The best book I have read that paints a great picture of where feminism is today is by Warren Farrell "Women Can't Hear What Men Don't Say" Also Warren Farrell is a lefty.

Personally I am tired of everything in life being measured in Right or Left. Everyone is now looking through their perspective glasses and judging whether they can be friends with someone based on where they sit on the Right Left line. The attitude of "if you don't agree with me you need to be burned at the stake"

I desperately want the Men's Right Movement to work for all men no matter what their political beliefs. I also want to work for equal rights for all, Men, Women, gay, straight, bisexual, Trans, Black, White, Asian, Hispanic - EVERYONE! Feminism has failed to do this. The book talks about "The Lace Curtain" If you start going off topic you are banned from feminism. Great Story about how this happened to Warren Farrell in the book when he started talking about Men's rights.

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Links for a new prospective

Warren Farrell's Book

https://www.amazon.com/Women-Cant-Hear-What-Dont/dp/1585420611/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3DPM4YIJX89FM&keywords=women+cant+hear+what+men+dont+say&qid=1551278768&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011&rnid=2470954011&rps=1&s=gateway&sprefix=women+cant+hear%2Caps%2C151&sr=8-1

The centrist party video clip, they also have a great book with a bad title called the Centrist Manifesto

https://youtu.be/enksQuPTFt8

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u/kanuk877 · 0 pointsr/business

Yes and no.

If this advertising stuff was an isolated incident, then yeah you might call this article an overreaction.

But anti-male advertising is not an isolated incident.

Nathanson and Young have dedicated 1020 pages in two books (Spreading Misandry and Legalizing Misandry) listing and discussing misandry in our culture. Misandry is so pervasive in North America, most people don't even notice it.

But the anti-male advertising is so bad, people are noticing it. We only hear about it occasionally when someone bothers to ask around what people's sentiments are. Because getting upset when men are maligned... that's not PC.

How do you fight something like misandry? Part of the battle is calling people out when they cross the line. And you keep doing it until some semblance of balance is restored.

If you want to learn more about misandry, you can read the above mentioned books or Warren Farrell's "Women Can't Hear what Men Don't Say" or "The Myth of Male Power" are quite good. Farrell was a feminist and served on the board of the American National Organization for Women.