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Pick up an album called "One" by a group called "Mission". They later changed their name to "Crown City Rockers".

http://www.amazon.com/Mission-One-Crown-City-Rockers/dp/B00005BC8P/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1279054517&sr=8-5

Actually, EVERYONE here pick it up!

I really enjoy me some Miles Davis, I like to drive by his "Spanish Key".

If anyone's wondering why he's considered amazing - look at how he plays from roughly 2 minutes onwards and that astounding finish!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Komeda-Leszek-Mozdzer/dp/B0052FG8CC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1313614440&sr=8-1

Unless you've heard Mingus play you probably could make that mistake.

Depending on who you ask, he's either number 2 or number 3 Jazz composer. Upvotes if you can list the other two I'm thinking of.

Don't forget this.

I was in the same position as you a couple of months ago. I went through this book https://www.amazon.com/Mitchell-Trumpet-Book-1-DVD/dp/1585607193/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1511531038&sr=8-1&keywords=mitchell+on+trumpet. I found it really good as it starts from the very beginning and it took me time to reacquire the fundamentals. I then went on to Arbans and used this book as a guide https://bolvinmusic.com/product/arban-manual/. I'm also trying to learn jazz properly and have been using this as a guide https://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32146 which requires this book to start https://www.amazon.com/Vol-Play-Jazz-Improvise-Book/dp/B0002J6I8M. Any other questions let me know.

[A Love Supreme- John Coltrane] (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000003N7F/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=10X534LY5RR5K&coliid=I2495W5953KG4W) it's a classic!

[Link] (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008NQ1W4G/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1OUQ8B0KGTG86&coliid=I1ST8HU5G7K5FQ)

What up doe

So many good pianists, where to begin? Have you checked out the Maybeck Recital series? The concert by Stanley Cowell is one of my favorite albums, Toshiko Akiyoshi really good as well..

Right now I'm listening a lot to Pastorale by Steve Kuhn, and a few albums by Enrico Pieranunzi (1685: Plays Bach, Handel and Scarlatti is superb. I'd say it's my favorite, but it is from 2011 so it hasn't yet stood the test of time. Trio: Dream Dance, Plays Morricone, Seaward and many more).. Eddie Higgins is good.. Ray Bryant's Somewhere in France is nice.. Fred Hersch plays Jobim is great. En Vivo piano solo by Ernán López-Nussa is also worth a listen.

Brad Mehldau as mentioned by someone else is of course the obvious recommendation for a modern jazz pianist, not obscure at all but brilliant. Live , Live in Marciac and Highway Rider would be my picks. One trio, one solo and one more ambitious undertaking (with his regular trio + Joshua Redman and a Chamber Orchestra)

Those are the two core (maybe the entirety?) of albums of Herbie's brief "Gil Evans" period.

You should also track down a copy of one other recording from this era, which is often listed as being a "Herbie Hancock" album (if only because his was the biggest name on the date). The line-up and actual personnel are both very similar to Speak Like a Child and The Prisoner -- and the arrangements seem CLEARLY to be from Herbie's pen.

http://www.allmusic.com/album/hear-o-israel-mw0000786958

Here's some samples -- warning, there are a couple operatic sopranos on the album too...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN18ppxYMBM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhEJqT-WfFM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLUSDFsNKsk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV3WJxxnCTU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGZwGaNptXE

It came out on CD (for the very first time) about 8 years ago, and was originally only released on a 100(?) copy run on vinyl, back in the day. Here are the particulars. Again, most of the time this is listed under Herbie's name as the leader, but he didn't actually write the music (I think that was Jonathan Klein, iirc) -- but CLEARLY Herbie had a huge hand in what it sounds like...

Recording originally produced in New York 1968.

Album : Hear, O Israel-A Prayer Ceremony in Jazz (LP issue 1968, CD issue 2008)

Herbie Hancock - piano

Jerome Richardson - flute, tenor and alto sax

Jonathan Klein - French horn and baritone

Thad Jones - trumpet and flugelhorn

Ron Carter - bass

Grady Tate - drums

Rabbi David Davis - reader

Antonia Lavanne - Soprano

Phyllis Bryn-Julson - Contralto

Here 'tis on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Hear-Israel-Prayer-Ceremony-Jazz/dp/B000WWNO40/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1478711281&sr=8-1&keywords=Hear%2C+O+Israel+herbie+hancock

edit: Probably ["Impressions" from Baden-Baden Germany 1961] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goXvpLMrY54) with Eric Dolphy. The drummer is of course Elvin Jones.

You can get it in good quality on the Jazz Icons DVD linked below, and I imagine the music is released somewhere too.

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It's probably on this Trane concert DVD [Jazz Icons] (https://www.amazon.com/Jazz-Icons-John-Coltrane-Live/dp/B000TNJIK6) but I'm trying to find it on youtube.

There's all that metal shit on the stage just like in [this 1961 Baden-Baden clip with Dolphy] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goXvpLMrY54) -- I think it's a German TV show.

Here's the full info on the Jazz Icons DVD: https://jazzicons.com/ji2_coltrane.html

It's not that rare! It can be found on this DVD along with a few other tunes from this set as well as two others. It's a must for Trane fans, imo.

Not sure that’s exactly what you are interested in, but here are my suggestions:

1. Chick Corea Elektric Band
   
2. “Up with Donald Byrd” - includes Herbie Hancock piano and Kenny Burrell guitar.
   
3. Although just a trio, I recently listened again and enjoyed it a lot:
   Bill Frisell, Ron Carter, Paul Motian :
   https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000GNOSCC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_YepFAbD90XYRH
   
   Edit: another popular choice. John McLaughlin and his 4th dimension group:
   Black Light https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0125P2R5I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_BOpFAb0RP9QPG
   
   The weather report - “Heavy Weather”
   Joe Zawinul on keyboard and Jaco Pastorius - guitar (and of course Wayne Shorter)

As other people are saying, listening a lot is obviously really important. But here is a fantastic tool to help you in a slightly more concrete way:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002J6I8M/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This was the book of choice by my jazz professor, who I studied improv with. The most important part about the book is in the middle, where there are a series of increasingly complex chord progressions. It starts with 12 bar blues, and evolves into full charts. And it comes with a CD, which has drums and bass playing those changes. To me, this was the perfect way to practice improvising. Just spend an hour a day playing along with the changes, and you get rapidly better.

The rest of the book is full of common improv vocabulary, with exercises, scales, licks, etc. Study these a bit to get some of the important vocabulary under your belt. But the most important thing is just to listen to solos you like, use them as inspiration, and then practice playing to the changes. Good luck.

A good book recommended to me by a jazz trumpeter: How to play jazz and improvise.

Mingus Ah Um has always been one of my favorites. Thelonious Monk with John Coltrane is a good album too. If you are looking for some amazing vocals check out some Nina Simone.

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|name|Rhys Chatham|
|about artist|Rhys Chatham (b. New York City) is an American avant-garde composer, guitarist, and trumpet player. He currently lives in France. In the early 1970s Chatham was the first music director of The Kitchen in New York. His early compositions owed a significant debt to La Monte Young and other minimalists. His concert productions included experimenters Maryanne Amacher, Robert Ashley, Philip Glass, Meredith Monk, Pauline Oliveros, Steve Reich, and early alternative-rockers such as Brian Eno, Robert Fripp and Fred Frith. ([more on last.fm](http://www.last.fm/music/Rhys Chatham))|
|album|Harmonie du soir, released Nov 2013|
|track|Harmonie du soir|
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|links|track on amazon, CD on amazon|
|tags|minimalism|
|similar|Glenn Branca, La Monte Young, Phill Niblock, Charlemagne Palestine, The Dead C|
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From the avant-garde: Henry Grimes (bass/vln) and Rashied Ali (drs) made a couple deep records on Porter a while back -

Going To The Ritual and Spirits Aloft

The original with Mike Moreno for one. This track is off the record Invisible Cinema.

I've built up a nice little jazz collection over the past few years and I really love slow, introspective piano stuff. Andrew Hill's Hommage is a great solo album, as is Mingus Plays Piano. Dave Brubeck's Jazz Impressions of Japan has a nice balance of fast/slow jazz and Thelonius by Himself is contemplative and cool. For a something a little different try Walt Dickerson's Impressions of a Patch of Blue or Sun Ra's The Night of the Purple Moon. Fun, funky stuff.

Something faster paced? Bitches Brew by Miles Davis or The Cry by Prince Lasha are two of my best purchases.

This is more like Herbie Hancock graduate level, but he masterminded a Joni Mitchell tribute that was quite good.

River: The Joni Letters

Funky Skull

Mingus (a bass player) did a piano album. His jazz mind still comes through.

so raashan ahmad is the vocalist for crown city rockers who for the last 10 years have been highly slept on despite basically being the bay area's version of the roots. with that said i feel like the roots are more soulful/gritty where these guys are more soulfull/partyvibe. their sound can sometime kind remind me of the dc gogo scene.

they all went to music school together and their senior project was released under the name 'mission: one' and is a classic. they then changed their name to crown city rockers and released another must listen called 'earthtones'

with this new album raashan has also released 4 solo albums and is one of the most consistent cats in the game imo. here's some gems

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Blues In Orbit is another Ellington band album that's great and completely different. The Far East suite is also very cool..

"Monk on Monk" by T.S. Monk is pretty great too, one of the best big band albums to come out in the last 10 years.

You'll find that it's hard to find stuff like TANK! that's not too shrill or repetitive. These recommendations will have a different color but you'll really enjoy them if you give them a chance.

Oh, and a more specific extrapolation on someone's recommendation below:
Mingus Ah Um, a smaller ensemble than the Seatbelts but no less kick-ass.

And for raw kick-ass you gotta check out Free For All by Art Blakey and co.

Oh shoot and don't forget this Oliver Nelson classic, "Blues and the Abstract Truth". <3 Hoe Down's bridge. Pretty cool ensemble writing!

Ok, I'll stop now. It's notable that all the guys I mentioned have 5-50 more albums which sound completely different, and each song on each album is very different! Imagine, music before pop...

This is the original recording remastered. Does that mean it's not by Teo Macero?