(Part 2) Best christian prophecies books according to redditors

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_religion_conspiracy_theories#Claim_that_Obama_is_the_Antichrist

https://www.amazon.com/Antichrist-2016-2019-Mystery-Babylon-Caliphate/dp/1501025392

https://www.oneplace.com/ministries/understanding-the-times/read/articles/obama-king-of-the-world-16861.html

First three google results for “Obama Antichrist”

Along with the link that u/basketcase57 provided, here are a couple more links that might help:

http://www.bible.ca/pre-date-setters.htm

https://www.amazon.com/Armageddon-Now-End-World-Z/dp/1578591686

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_of_the_end_of_the_world

Human beings tend to focus on death & destruction because of our survival instincts. In order for our ancestors to survive, it was much more important to watch for threats (lions or leopards, for example) than to count our blessings or advantages.

On the other hand, there is strong evidence that things are getting BETTER, not worse:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOwskeIc9Ms

https://ourworldindata.org/a-history-of-global-living-conditions-in-5-charts/

That is a nice, eye catching cover. I don't normally go for a lot of the books posted here due to bland covers (not fair I know, but the interesting cover gets the reader). Lens flare probably wasn't needed but hey I looked it up.

You should know that when you search "Head Games by Kevin Alex Baker" in amazon, this is result number 2.

But yeah, color me interested.

First, thanks for doing this and for your writing! When I read The Road To Unfreedom and was presented with the politics of eternity I immediately thought of Christian authors who try to justify the present by finding "prophecy" in the bible.

For instance: https://www.amazon.com/Paradigm-Ancient-Blueprint-Holds-Mystery/dp/1629994766/ref=la_B005DUR0R8_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1526408499&sr=1-1

This book was basically a christian rationalization of Trump that excuses his lack of christian morality by drawing a parallel to an ancient israeli king (jehru) who, while morally questionable, also "drained the swamp" and destroyed the temple of baul (a place where there was child sacrifice - a stand in for planned parenthood). Bill and Hillary also become parallels for ancient israeli figures.

This all reminded me so much of Putin's arguments about Voldomir.

Do you feel as though this is a good example of a American politics of inevitability? What other academics (I use that word lightly) or public figures would you say are good examples of American inevitability politics?

Thanks!!!

Holy crap. I hadn't heard a single word about this guy. Tom Phillips is my rep, so I had no reason to look Hoerman up, but look at this:

https://www.amazon.com/Earthquakes-Prophesied-Beware-Stanley-Hoerman/dp/1629984574

Yeah I was told by one of these people actually one I had Nephilim blood. [I am some mix, olive color skin--don't actually know my heritage, due to adoption, it is a long story] and he said to me, if you are Hungarian/gypsy you are going to hell. I cut that nut off, I only knew him from the internet. He really believed this eugenics crap. When I was in the Remnant I did speak out against the Nephilim crap. Funny how I got tied in knots trying to defend insane theologies. Most of the people into Nephilim theories, are covert racists at the core, it is popular among the alt-right.

Here is an example of one of their books, hmm FALSE PROPHECIES and more the Watchers didn't come...LOL

https://www.amazon.com/Nephilim-Stargates-Year-Return-Watchers/dp/0978845315

I like C.S. Lewis, and Ravi Zacharias for general thought about Christianity.

If you look into either of them there are some criticism/allegations -- I think Ravi Zacharias made some comment about homosexuality, and C.S. Lewis had some friends in the occult or something. I think about what I read though so overall it doesn't bother me really, just wanted to put that out there so you can look into it if you want before you recommend C.S. Lewis to someone and they go OH BUT HE HAD OCCULT CONNECTIONS! I don't mean it as an endorsement or apology in any way, just putting it out there. What I have read from both of these authors I have enjoyed and found thought-provoking.

I was also really intrigued by Richard Perry's "Idiot's Guide To The Last Days" which is about Christian Eschatology (and is not dispensationalist/'pre-trib' btw)
Finally, I think this book could be better edited but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Philip Collins' "Ascendancy of the Scientific Dictatorship" which covers the outlines and agendas of various modern/postmodern phenomena like transhumanism and darwinism. I'll say right now, if you aren't looking for a book with a "conspiracy" (sigh) bent, you may as well stay away from it.

How lovely - then we are in agreement (which we have been all along on my part).

This is what you wrote (other than questioning my knowledge of the Bible and my Christian ethics etc):

"Science uses evidence to come to a conclusion .
Christianity has a conclusion, and tries to find evidence to support that conclusion.
That's the difference.

My original statement stands.
You have a conclusion(there is a God that created everything) and you are trying to find evidence(the prophecies of the old testament) that supports that conclusion.
Unless you can find an example where the evidence precedes the conclusion, I don't understand why you would disagree with what I wrote.

The evidence that was written after the conclusion was made.

But the very evidence YOU were using to come to YOUR conclusion was written AFTER the original conclusion was made.

Are you understanding this?

You seem to be in disagreement with my original post, and yet each of your responses supports it.

That you would run away from the discussion as soon as you realized that you completely misunderstood the posts you were replying to.

Unless you can provide an example of evidence preceding the conclusion, there is nothing to disagree about here. You are arguing for the sake of arguing."

Christianity from my perspective isnt simply believing in God and looking for evidence of his existance. Many other religions believe in God, like Islam for instance which even acknowledges Jesus as a prophet but not as God. Christianity from my perspective is about Jesus Christ being (God) the creator and savior. Not even all professing Christians acknowledge Jesus to be God, because there are different versions of the Bible and different denominations of "Christianity".

If you want evidence of Jesus being God you go to the (full) Bible - not merely evidence of a "God". Most of the Jews (who also believe in God) did after all reject Jesus because they did not (inspite of having access to the old testament of the bible) understand he was God. And my version of the Bible (the 1611 authorized King James Bible) since it starts with the old testament, does not conclude that Jesus is God from the beginning of the book. It (among other things) makes a case to prove who God is, and presents the evidence (by for example prophecy) as it moves forward.

So apparently we have been in agreement all along, which I tried to tell you by ACKNOWLEDGING TWO TIMES the VALID point you made early on about scientific method. But I suppose it never occured to you that maybe it was you who did not fully understand me (perhaps I was not clear enough or I just assumed you knew the Bible) - that is why I backed out of the discussion, because I dont like unessecary confrontations, since it rarely leads to anything positive (proven by the fact we still have this nonesensical "argument").

From the beginning the Bible merely states the fact that God is the Creator of everything, not who he is:

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Here is ONE, of over 340 prophecies, presented of the future comming of (God in the flesh) Jesus Christ in the old testament, which he fullfilled during his earthly ministry:

Gen 3:15 and I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Hundreds and hundreds of pages later in the new testament conclusions are made about Jesus being God by (among other things) fullfillment of prophecy (and mind the fact that the different books of the Bible are written by many different testators separated by hundreds of years and for the most part without personal affiliation):

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 1 Tim 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. Eph 3:9 and to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

If you want context to those verses or to know what the Bible says in-between you have to read it for yourself (unless you have done that already) - but you will not find the word "Jesus" and "God" or "the Lord" in the same context or verse before what most people consider to be the new testament. Infact the word "Jesus" doesnt appear at all in the, 1611 authorized King James Bible version, old testament:

https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=jesus&qs_version=AKJV

The fact that the 1611 authorized King James Bible is perfect and without contradicition or flaws from the beginning to the end (unlike most sceintific research papers with a backgound story to motivate the study, research questions, thesis, method, empirical data, analysis and conclusion), despite being "written" by several different testators centuries apart, is because God himself is the author and the prophets (testators of the Biblical books) are merely "type writing machines". So in one sence you have an extra bonus point, since Jesus himself knew from the beginning when he started writing the Bible, that he was God (but I doubt it that is what you meant):

2 Tim 3:16 all scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

If you dont understand the Bible (which many people dont) or have not read it, I recommend this book for easy interpretation (including prophecy):

"Dispensational truth - or Gods plan and purpose through the ages", by Clereance Larkin (it has its limitations but is a very good explaining book).

https://www.amazon.com/Dispensational-Truth-Full-Illustrations-Purpose/dp/1614271046/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1522235578&sr=8-1&keywords=dispensational+truth+clarence+larkin&dpID=51ZFb4i6s7L&preST=_SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch

I was infact done "arguing" with you early on because there was no disagreement on my part. And I certainly am now, because I have other things to tend to and I hope you respect that. And if you do not agree with me on my view of GOD, my definition of CHRISTIANITY, my view on how to INTERPRET the Bible or about the validity of the 1611 authorized King James BIBLE - that is ok with me, I am not here to convert you or to argue with you for the sake of arguing. But dont tell me one more time the Bible concludes certain things without prior evidence, because it doesnt. Either way I am done here and if you repeat yourself and/or question my beliefs or Christian ethics again, I will simply block you so I need not deal with you.

I recommend you read Circle of Intrigue - $20 https://www.amazon.ca/Circle-Intrigue-Hidden-Illuminati-Conspiracy/dp/1930004052

Yes. Actually, I suspect the partial preterist view is correct -- which essentially states that the book of Revelation prophecies a great tribulation for the early church when Nero would persecute them like crazy. I really think all of this Israel/Russia, micro-chip, anti-Christ talk is utter nonsense.

Regardless of what you believe, I would encourage you to read this book on the matter.

There are a number of books that concern aliens, UFOs, and abduction from a scriptural point of view that have been published over the years. I don't personally recall any of these from the 1990s, but perhaps it's an earlier publication of one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/Alien-Intrusion-Updated-Expanded-Bates/dp/0890514356

https://www.amazon.com/Alien-Abduction-UFOs-Bible-Prophecy/dp/1556304056

With all due respect, writing novels on the side is no indication that someone has no credibility.

You left out his half-a-century-long service in the Deep State. Go to his Wikipedia page.

That he writes novels on the side is like dismissing Newt Gingrich and leaving out the fact that he was Speaker of the House, and saying, "Ignore him; he writes novels".

Here are some of Gingrich's fictional works on Amazon.com: https://www.amazon.com/Duplicity-Novel-Newt-Gingrich/dp/1455530433/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1478047343&sr=8-1&keywords=newt+gingrich+novel

So if Newt Gingrich became a whistleblower, we're supposed to dismiss him and pretend he's not connected with extensive knowledge of the government?

• Footnote: Just for context, many world leaders were novelists before they ever acceded to power. Like Benjamin Disraeli in the UK (who was a bestselling novelist before he was ever Prime Minister). Or Winston Churchill, whose novels include Savrola and The Dream.

I want to buy one of those bibles to see what that paper looks like. Something like this is more what I had in mind

From this site using 4.4x3 inches pages and 600 pages the paper needed to get 0.8 ounces is 7.5 g/m^2

And 2.3kg of rise is better from my point of view that a thousand bibles.

First let me say I would very much recommend you listen to the Bahnsen vs Stine debate. Greg Bahnsen wrote the book (literally ) On presup.

Presup essentially is the belief that all forms of reason depend on the existence of the Christian God.

so then, in order:

1 The Christian world view is, based on my personal inspection, the only sound and coherent worldview.

2 Yes they can, and the Christian world view can explain why this is the case, unfortunately other worldviews cannot.

3 No it is not. There's nothing wrong with questioning your beliefs, however if you are a presupasitionalist who's questioning your beliefs based on reason then you've effectively just proved the existence of God again.

The verses are here, great book:

https://www.amazon.com/Footsteps-Messiah-Arnold-G-Fruchtenbaum/dp/0914863096

also here is a small write up:

http://www.arielm.org/dcs/pdf/mbs003m.pdf

I read a great book about Daniel, "Daniel's Prophecy of the 70 Weeks", by a Dr. Alva J. McClain, he uses that date as evidence of what he terms "predictive prophecy", through his reasoning. He starts talking about the rapture (not "timing" it, btw) in ch's 2&3, but chapter one is solid.

That would negate faith, which is what God is looking for. And, as already pointed out, God has tried coming to us personally, and also being with us as a pillar of cloud/fire, etc.

Side note: This is an awesome book that a friend of mine was introduced to in seminary. It explains how God has tried every conceivable way of relating to humanity, to find the one way that works. It's a great book for answering the "why didn't God just do X" questions.

> I live here, man.

you live in the mosque where it happened and saw it?

> It happened.

And you're 100% sure this dude did it himself?

>I know people who lost people.

Doesn't mean you have 100% proof that this guy did it himself. Lots of stuff in the video is shady AF.

Anyone, its all going to lead up to WW3 against Islam predicted by Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, Baba Vanga:

https://www.amazon.com/Nostradamus-Islamic-Invasion-Europe-Montaigne/dp/1546435840

http://www.alamongordo.com/nostradamus-war-with-islam-getting-closer/

Let's just start with one claim: If I am wrong on this one, stop reading, that means I'm a liar, or I'm mistaken.

'ALL scholars, believing or unbelieving, agree that Rome is the 4th empire.' See the 2010 series. Dan 11/12 The Unfinished Business of History (time 7:37--context is 6:00-7:57). Also see 2010 Dan 7-8 pt 2 at 2:38.

Anyone who has read even a handful of scholars on this point knows this is not true. Go to Amazon. Find a book 'Complete Guide to Biblical Prophecy' by Miller (conservative, bible believing scholar.) https://www.amazon.com/COMPLETE-GUIDE-BIBLE-PROPHECY/dp/1624162231/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1510789384&sr=1-1&keywords=miller+bible+prophecy He discusses how there are two competing theories about the identities of the empires. On page 150 there is a chart describing this. (Amazon has a 'look inside' feature when you click in the upper right corner of the book.)

Here's another--Boice, Expositional Commentary on Daniel, p 126. Daniel, Boice (conservative) p 126 (notes ch 9) https://www.amazon.com/Daniel-Expositional-Commentary-James-Montgomery/dp/0801066417/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1510789329&sr=8-1&keywords=james+montgomery+boice+daniel
--in order to avoid predictive prophecy, liberals date the book in 165 BC, and make the Greek empire the 4th. All of the empires would therefore have come on the stage by the time of the book's writing.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/tgc-documents/journal-issues/2.2_Goldingay.pdf This is a conservative scholar, who discusses this issue in the 2nd paragraph.

Unfortunately doing a web search for 'Daniel 4 empires' may not yield results...people who make websites about Daniel typically hold to the conservative Christian position. But, you probably will be able to find proof. Look at Wikipedia for example, Four Kingdoms of Daniel, in 'Schools of Thought.' (right above 'Roman Empire schema')
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_kingdoms_of_Daniel

If you go to any decent sized library, they will have one volume bible commentaries, guides, handbooks...if you look at the sections on Daniel 2 and 7, they will all tell you the same thing. Some scholars see Rome as the 4th empire, some see Greece as the 4th empire. This is impossible to miss.

I am not arguing that Greece is the 4th empire. All I am saying is that there is a disagreement among scholars, and there are two main views. That's it. Some Xenos teachers somehow have missed this. I can't imagine how. They NEVER mention that many (actually I think most) scholars disagree with the 'Rome as #4' view. (If they did, they would provide only the weakest arguments, like they have done for the late-date, such as the '3 Greek words' argument.)

Why is this important? The answer to this is in the quote in the quote from Boice above. Mainline scholars date Daniel (not the book in its entirety, but its final form) at about 165 BC. No one dates it later, even as much as a decade later. Therefore if everyone, including mainline scholars, actually agreed with the 4-empire schema of Babylon, Media-Persia, Greece, and Rome, then Rome is one of Daniel's 4 dominant empires. Daniel thus would have clearly predicted the ascendancy of the Roman empire. Rome was not the dominant power in the 160s; Greece was. I think Rome became the dominant power about a century later. (To further verify this point, see the 2006 Daniel 2 teaching at 1:03:40. He argues the same exact point I make here.)

Now, are there good arguments to be made that Daniel predicted the future? Yes. But, none of them are as good as 'It is 100% certain that Rome is the fourth Empire'...which is clearly not true. Now, if everyone, even late-dating scholars who don't believe in prophecy, agree that Rome is the final empire...what other conclusion could be made? Daniel predicted the Roman empire.

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