(Part 2) Best quran books according to redditors

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Top Reddit comments about Quran:

u/saladin_ · 9 pointsr/islam

>Less contradictions compared to the bible

That's not good enough. There are no contradictions in the Qur'an. I've seen some websites make retarded claims of contradictions, 90% of which make you go "Why not both?".

For example, one claim goes like this: "how will bad people receive their book of deeds? In their left hand? [69:25] or behind their back? [84:10]"...What?

One type of "contradiction" (in a very loose sense of the word) that is recognized and accepted by Muslim scholars is abrogation. They differ on the number of verses that are abrogated. Opinions range from none to 120, but I think the majority opinion is 5 instances though I'm not sure. One example is the gradual prohibition of alcohol:

  • Alcohol has both good and bad aspects. But it's more bad than good [2:219]

  • Don't pray when you're drunk [4:43]

  • Don't drink alcohol. [5:90]

    Interestingly, a contemporary non-Muslim scholar, Neal Robinson (well now he's Muslim but he wasn't when he wrote his book on the Qur'an) rejects the concept of abrogation and one of the reasons he gives is that there is no need for it as the verses don't contradict (i.e. the "abrogated" verse doesn't really get negated by the new verse)

    >"Infidels" / leavers or non-believers can be killed

    This is simply not true. See [2:190-194] and [60:8-9] and read "Islamic Military Jurisprudence" on Wikipedia.

    For the other two questions, here are some good short lectures on those topics.

    >If somebody leaves Islam, why is it up to the believers to take action against them? Why can't Allah deal with them on judgement day?

    Punishment for Apostasy in Islamic Law- Dr. Jonathan Brown

    >Supposedly we get 72 virgins or something if we go to heaven? Or is this misrepresented in the media?

    Islamic conception of paradise (72 virgins)- Dr. Jonathan Brown

    Here's an explanation by /u/logical1ty of the punishment for apostasy, which is basically the same as what the speaker above said but more detailed:

    >Apostasy in a theocratic state where religion is the basis for citizenship pretty much amounts to treason. Name one society or nation in human history which did not execute or exile people for treason. Exile is actually one option for apostasy, and the way the law is set up (in the Hanafi legal school which was in force in the Ottoman and Mughal states), if an apostate leaves the Muslim state, he is treated as if dead by the state and not pursued or harassed. Apostates in foreign lands are not under the jurisdiction of a Shariah state. An apostate is given several days to recant and restate the Shahadah as well. So, basically, if anyone wants to leave Islam, they pretty much can, but they'd have to leave the Islamic/Shariah state. And there's nothing really stopping them, because anyone can just say "oh yeah, I'm Muslim, don't worry", then leave the country and do whatever, and nothing comes of it.

    >The problem only occurs for people who publicly apostatize and refuse to leave. This directly undermines the religion's place in society, and thus the society itself (since it's a theocratic state). Undermining the government/society is an act of treason, and like I said, no human society has let such people go unpunished. They're always removed from society (via death or exile) before they can attempt to crash it, inflicting much harm on everyone.

    >The law is also not ambiguous, anyone who's lived in an Islamic state knows it. So anyone who publicly apostatizes, demands to stay, and set a precedent for others to leave Islam, is essentially willing to die for their cause. Which is to war against Islam. Making their status as a "foreign infidel infiltrator at war with the state" (harbi) an appropriate one.
    Citizenship for Non-Muslims is dependent on becoming a Dhimmi and paying the Jizya. Jizya cannot be accepted from two groups of people according to Shariah as Sunnis interpret it. The first are the idolators of Arabia at the time of Prophet Muhammad (who are long since gone). The second are apostates.

    >Women are not executed for apostasy, they get jail until they recant.

    EDIT: accidentally grouped two questions.

    EDIT2: Added relevant links
u/xKingofB · 9 pointsr/islam

Aaahhh I bought this
yesterday. Guess I'll return it.

u/MuslimStoic · 7 pointsr/islam

It's part of the literature complexity of the Arabic language. It's a bit tricky to grasp the importance of this when reading the first time. but you will get it after multiple readings. Sometimes, "I" is used when Allah is talking from the position of closeness, mercy and in the same sentence/paragraph, "We" can be used if an order is being given as the perspective has changed to Majesty and Authority.

Example:

If you look at the conversation of Allah with the Angels From 2:30-2:34. You will see that 30-33 is a dialogue, Angels are even kinda criticizing God's plan to create a human. In all these instances "I" is used. In verse 34, Allah is issuing a command, here "We" is used.

Sometimes a subtle point is communicated by this change, for example, 2:38 "...guidance from "me" (instead of "us").." hinting the concept of revelation via messengers is a form of mercy from Allah.

If you are interested to comprehend such complexities, I recommend this book, it deals with this subject very nicely.

u/c2v255 · 5 pointsr/islam

Hmm... I am not the best person to ask but I want to help so I will try and make a few suggestions.

There are two very popular speakers called Nouman Ali Khan and Yasir Qhadi they have a lot of great videos on Islamic topics and maybe they might interest you, Yasir Qhadi has actually documented the entire life of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in what we call the Seerah of Muhammad (pbuh).

He starts by explaining the scene before Muhammad even existed, its very comprehensive and like all important things takes time to learn. I watch one video a day and try and learn from them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOUp3ZZ9t3A&list=PLAEA99D24CA2F9A8F

Also this book makes the quran easier to understand while highlighting some of the miracles lost in translation:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Understanding-Islamic-Scripture-Translated-Commentary/dp/0321355733/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1380047961&sr=8-1&keywords=selected+passages+from+the+quran

www.Quran.com is also a great resource but you have to be patient like when we study anything, but I assure you brother/sister your patience will pay off.

Also this video was designed for a non-Muslim audience and its a very basic introduction into the Quran and I highly recommend it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebfcIx1qbvE

(it took me ages to find that video bro/sis so you better watch that one at least! Ko)

Hopefully someone with more knowledge can offer better advice

u/goodmorninged · 4 pointsr/books

After a bit of research, I read this translation as it seemed to be the consensus online and between people I know. There's a book with annotations and key passages to go along with it, though I just read the Wikipedia entry for each chapter (sura) as I came to it and felt like there was a good deal of context and commentary.

The translation itself was very easy to read, but beautiful all the same.

u/Pax_Christi_ · 4 pointsr/Christianity

I know a good amount about Islam, I've read the entire Quran and read this book as kind of a guide

https://www.amazon.com/Discovering-Quran-Contemporary-Approach-Veiled/dp/1589010248

I've spent hours reading Ibn Arabis Tafsir and am pretty well versed in Sunni Hadiths and Sunnah. I like watching Sheik Hamza Yusuf, Mufti Menk and Dr Jonathan Brown on YouTube and listen to their lectures while I work. I certainly know a good amount about Islam, I'm no scholar but I probably know more about Islam than many cultural muslims. The problem isn't that I don't know about Islam, the problem is its clear as day that many statement made by Muhammad are bs. Why are women's minds deficient or why must we kill black dogs? Anyone who has read the hadiths for an hour would realize Mohammads moral compass is much much worse than the average person, not even among historical figures considered moral.

The average person would agree it's wrong to torture someone and burn them alive to steal their money. But this is exactly what Muhammad did to a Jewish Tribal leader

u/madeiniron · 3 pointsr/islam

Many translations are out of date unfortunately (tho' I love Pickthall's coz I love Pickthall). Mohsin Khan is pretty good as well.

In my opinion, the best for modern english is M.A.S. Abdul-Haleem's The Qur'an.

u/zaakiy · 3 pointsr/islam

Farahi's student Amin Ahsan Islahi expanded on this, and Islahi's student Qazi Ashfaq Ahmad published an English language book that concisely summarises the thematic analysis done by these men.

It is concise enough for a beginner to be able to study.

A Simple Explanation of Al-Quran: Al-Fatiha (the Opening) and the Last Juz (Part 30): Volume 30 https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/0980340799/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_7knHDbCEVEYWB

Kindle version https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B00JI3O64Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_zlnHDb0EHB4Y9

Source: am grandson of Qazi Ashfaq Ahmad

u/umopapisdnwei · 3 pointsr/shia

Know Your Islam by Yousuf N. Lalljee is an excellent resource for learning the basic practices in Shia Islam. Try to pick up a copy if you can.

u/Alexinova · 3 pointsr/worldnews

Of course! ^_^

If you ever want to buy a copy of the Quran for research, I suggest The Clear Quran by Dr. Mustafa Khattab. As of now, it is the most accurate translation to exist and implements use of modern English rather than archaic English.

https://www.amazon.ca/Clear-Quran-Thematic-English-Translation-ebook/dp/B01N7XTUXP/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_351_t_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=7TCX844D0GXAZPA2JTVN

https://www.amazon.ca/Clear-Quran-Thematic-English-Translation-ebook/dp/B01MUKKHHI

u/mansoorz · 3 pointsr/islam

Ustadh Nouman Ali Khan recommends this book to get a better understanding of the linguistics in the Qur'an.

I recommend this book of sirah to get better acquainted with Islam and its origins. Very easy reading.

u/Ghostfacefza · 3 pointsr/shia
  1. Yes Sharia is recognized by the shia, however I advise you to select a marja and direct your specific sharia/fiqh questions towards him. Ayatollah Sistani has a pretty available website and you can even send in and ask specific questions.

  2. I don't think that it is expressly a sin to not go to a mosque or hussenia in the way that it is a sin to skip your prayers or not fast in Ramadan. However, the sense of community and exposing yourself to lectures/majalis can be very important for spiritual growth, and is important. At least it has been in my experience.

  3. It is absolutely okay to visit a Sunni mosque. There is no restriction in shia islam against visiting a sunni mosque. Depending on the Sunni mosque, they might not be receptive to you, but I have never experienced this.

  4. My saturday school used this book. http://www.amazon.com/Know-Your-Islam-Yousuf-Lalljee/dp/0940368021 Its pretty basic. A quick google search for "Shia History English Stories" gave me this site http://www.ghadeer.org/english/default.html. It has some history its not terribly extensive, but usually googling will get you a good amount of information.

    You can also google a topic and the name of a scholar. In my opinion Ammar Nakshwani and Hasnain Rajabali are reliable and straightforward. https://www.google.com/search?q=hasnain+rajabali&oq=hasnain+rajabali&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.3207j0j7&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=91&ie=UTF-8

  5. I don't know, I don't speak arabic. Sorry.

  6. The specific months of Mourning are Muharram and Safar and the first 8 days of Rabi-ul-Awwal. You will find differences among shia's based on the culture they come from. Inconsistencies between the methods of mourning do not mean one is more correct than the other. This calendar has specific dates and events: http://www.al-khoei.org/OnlineServices/CalendarEvents.aspx

  7. There isn't that much of a difference but I don't know a ton about sunni prayers so I don't feel qualified to outline them for you.

    Feel free to send me any questions you have. Just know that I AM NOT EVEN REMOTELY A SCHOLAR. I'm just someone that tries to be shia.

u/[deleted] · 3 pointsr/islam

I wonder how many people recommending translations here have actually ever read a translation of the Qur'an cover to cover? Just because one translation is more readily available does not make it better, it just means the publisher is good at marketing. So if you haven't read multiple translations, please don't comment here.

With that said, the translation of Ahmad Zaki Hammad is probably the best out right now. He's a very well known translator, received his PhD from U of Chicago, and spent close to 20 years working on this translation. Oxford Classics's translation by M.A.S. AbdulHaleem is a close second and probably more accessible to the average person.

u/recipriversexcluson · 2 pointsr/islam

Jumu'ah Mubarak

Today's Ayat for Friday, 2017-01-13 / 15 Rabi` al-thani 1438

By the glorious morning light;
and by the night when it darkens,
your Lord has not forsaken you, nor is He displeased with you,

-- ad-Dhuha 93:1-3 as rendered by Wahiduddin Khan

وَالضُّحَىٰ
وَاللَّيْلِ إِذَا سَجَىٰ
مَا وَدَّعَكَ رَبُّكَ وَمَا قَلَىٰ

http://www.islamawakened.com/quran/93/1/-93/3/

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u/nadirkemal · 2 pointsr/GENIUS

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u/barrister_bear · 2 pointsr/progressive_islam

> Like, arguing that you can beat your wife "lightly"

That is the direct result of patriarchal influenced translation. The word can have multiple meanings, and every other time its used in the Quran its translated as "go away (from)," not "beat" or strike." Only when it comes to wives do people change it to that bullshit.

The first Quran translated by an American woman makes this change, as well as others, and backs it up with reasons why.

u/itanorchi · 2 pointsr/religion

I realize I mixed up Arberry and Droge. Arberry is a good translation without extensive commentary. Your link is the Arberry one, which is a good translation.

But if you're wanting to get an academic read, I suggest this:

The Qur'an: A New Annotated Translation (Comparative Islamic Studies) https://www.amazon.com/dp/1845539451/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_QGxNAb8BK6K43

u/pilotinspector85 · 2 pointsr/islam

[(Oxford World’s Classics)](The Qur’an (Oxford World’s Classics) https://www.amazon.com/dp/0199535957/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_QxwzCb5XWKMJH)

(The Clear Quran - English Only Translation: A Thematic English Translation of the Message of the final revelation https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0747XY67R/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_wywzCbFRN3C98)

u/syedur · 1 pointr/islam

I am late. I had to take a break from all the snipers who flooded in after the recent debate. It can be exhausting trying to defend your belief among non-believers. I am sure you were in similar position at certain point in life. Even if it's not with religion but with ideas or sports teams.

Anyway, I made reference to NYC and its past because I needed a reference point. Just as a polygraph machine needs a reference point. After all, you are not arguing about objective morality. Morality, according to you changes with time and culture. What worked 1400 years ago does not work today. That's the core of your argument. If we were talking about this subject 200 hundred years ago, we would be at the opposite ends of our table. One of the reasons secular societies think they have it right, while Muslims do not is because of their economical power. If today somehow China ruled the world economically, we probably would have a different outlook on these issues. But I digress. Let's get on with actually answering your concerns.

> http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=4&verse=34

I am going to take Yusuf Ali's translation because that's the book I have. While the verse you linked has the translation, it does not have the footnote.

Translation:

> Men are the protectors (545) and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard.(546) As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first),(547) (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly);(547-A) but if they return to obedience, seek not against them(548) Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).

Footnote:

> 545 Qawwam: one who stands firm in another's business, protects his interests, and looks after his affairs; or it may be, standing firm in his own business, managing affairs, with a steady purpose (Cf. 4:135 and 2:228).
546 Or the sentence may be rendered: "and protect (the husband's interests) in his absence, as Allah has protected them. If we take the rendering as in the text, the meaning is: the good wife is obedient and harmonious in her husband's presence, and in his absence guards his reputation and property and her own virtue, as ordained by Allah. If we take the rendering as in the note, we reach the same result in a different way: the good wife, in her husband's absence, remembering how Allah has given her a sheltered position, does everything to justify that position by guarding her own virtue and his reputation and property.

> 547 In case of family jars four steps are mentioned, to be taken in that order: (1) perhaps verbal advice or admonition may be sufficient; (2) if not, sex relations may be suspended; (3) if this is not sufficient, some slight physical correction may be administered; but Imam Shafi'i considers this inadvisable, though permissible, and all authorities are unanimous in deprecating any sort of cruelty, even of the nagging kind, as mentioned in the next clause; (4)- if all this fails, a family council is recommended in 4:35 below.

> 547-A The word "daraba" is used in the Qur'an with about 17 different meanings including avoid, separate, leave, travel etc. The Qur'an is best interpreted through the deeds and sayings of the Prophet. The fact that the Prophet never battered or spanked any wife and detested any such action, gives credence that the meaning here intended here by "wadribuhunna" is to stay away from a discordant wife in the hope that this will let her realize an impending separation and divorce. (Eds.)

> 548 Temper, nagging, sarcasm, speaking at each other in other people's presence, reverting to past faults which should be forgiven and forgotten-all this is forbidden. And the reason given is characteristic of Islam. You must live all your life as in the presence of Allah, Who is high above us, but Who watches over us. How petty and contemptible will our little squabbles appear in His presence!

Source: Couldn't find it at openlibrary.org, so here's amazon. Page: 44.

What's wrong with that verse? It is perfectly fine. Only thing can be problematic about this verse is the word strike or beat (depending on the translation), if it is not understood with its historical context. To understand it, we have to understand Classic Arabic. In which colloquial context was the word used? Since we can't go back in time, we look at the Sunnah or the example of the Prophet. If hitting or striking one's wife was the proper way to deal with conflicts, then there would be an example of it. However, the Prophet did not treat his wives in such manner. If you want a full lecture on the topic, check out Dr. Jonathan Brown.

> As far as I know, Quran only speaks about divorce from the man's angle. Its left to interpretation and probably sunnah as to the women's options. I'd be happy to know if I am wrong about this. If you read these, you'll notice it is only talking to men about men. I noticed this when I first read the Quran.

This is an easy one. The Qur'an is understood as God speaking to Muhammad through the angel Gabriel. The Surah you mentioned starts with O Prophet, addressing Muhammad (pbuh). So, the Qur'an is not speaking to all men, rather one specific man. Some Muslims are confused about this as well. In order to appeal to Christians, they'll say things like... "Well, the Qur'an mentions Jesus' name more than Muhammad's name." That's because God is speaking to Muhammad about Jesus. There's a difference. God is not going to mention Muhammad's name every time He speaks to him.

When God wanted to be specific about men and women's duty, he mentions it explicitly. For example, the hijab and waiting period for divorce, etc. It is my understanding, there's no difference otherwise. For example, a woman asked the Prophet about prayer and how she should pray. The Prophet replied saying, "Pray as I pray."

I am not going to go through the Wikipedia article. I don't have the expertise to challenge or agree to the claims. I glanced at the references and it's mostly someone's interpretation of the verses from the Qur'an and the Hadith. I am not sure if they have the credentials to make the said interpretations. They also cited some Islamic countries' divorce laws. Which isn't always Islamic, just because they said so. They could be right, they could be wrong. I don't know. I am not a mufti.

> I'm very impressed that you seem to know the innermost thoughts and psychology of women strippers and adult actresses. I dont so I'll accept your opinion on this.

Haha. I'm glad you're impressed. I don't have the expertise. However, I watched couple of documentaries on the porn industry. This being the most recent one. You should give it a watch. These are real pornstars' opinions, not mine. Some women do enjoy it, most do it because it's the last resort. Porn is an ugly industry ran mostly by men. Have you watched porn? No self-respecting woman wants to be treated that way. But then again, I am not a woman. I also worked with perverted old men. Who want women to be more "free" as in revealing and flirtatious, so they can get their dicks wet. They are not interested in women's rights or equality; they sure hide behind the facade. Although, my sample size is pretty low. So we'll just leave them as my opinion on the matter. Feel free to be impressed! :)

(Running out of space... continued on a new reply.)

u/songbolt · 1 pointr/Christianity

The theological and liturgical language of the Church is Latin, not Greek ...

> It's usually best not to raise claims you're unwilling to substantiate.

You're right. I've broken my rule of making fact-claims without citations. Sorry about that.

> Why are you so emotionally caught up in this if your flair suggests you're not a Christian to begin with?

It would be wonderful if the Church were correct, so I'm trying to find reasons to believe and discover how to know it is.

I'm interested in Mohammed's claims, too, especially if the Quran is correct in depicting God as capricious and spiteful, but there are so many objections that it seems unreasonable to spend time on.

Here I will substantiate those claims, quoting from a post I made here previously. I'm posting this for your benefit; I don't want to bicker and I really don't have the time to:


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&amp;gt; [4:56](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007D64VX6/ref=kinw_myk_ro_title). Surely! Those who disbelieved in Our Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) We shall burn them in Fire. As often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for other skins that they may taste the punishment. Truly, Allaah is Ever Most Powerful, All-Wise.<br />
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This also shows the capricious, threatening nature: Whenever the Quran says something horrible -- in this case, God literally roasting people and then giving them new skins to keep doing it -- it immediately follows it up with praise. These threats are repeated ad nausea throughout the entire Quran, as I said, reading it cover to cover.<br />
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Reading it cover to cover gets to my second point: I do not see how your translations can be trusted, particularly when they use language like &quot;an atom's weight&quot; -- I have seen Mohammedan apologists try to argue that the Quran &quot;predicts science&quot; -- because different English translations whitewash the text: I read [Muhammad Asad](https://www.amazon.com/Message-Quran-Asad-Muhammad-Hardcover/dp/B00ZVQ6MGO/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1490482020&amp;amp;sr=1-1)'s translation and compared it to this version by &quot;Dr Khan&quot; and I found whenever something seemed reasonable, it was apparently whitewashed by Asad. For example, on the origin of men -- one of those claims that &quot;the Quran predicts modern science&quot;:<br />
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&amp;gt; 22.5 O mankind! If you are in doubt about the Resurrection [of all men to the final judgment at the end of time -- not Jesus' Resurrection, just to clarify for Christians here (my note)], then verily! We have created you (i.e. Adam) from dust, then from a Nutfah (mixed drops of male and female sexual discharge i.e. offspring of Adam), then from a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood) then from a little lump of flesh, some formed and some unformed (miscarriage), that We may make (it) clear to you (i.e. to show you Our Power and Ability to do what We will). [...]<br />
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I had two thoughts here. One was that, although claimed by apologists as divinely revealed technical knowledge, it is not clear that the original text is sufficiently detailed to be accurate: 'dust', 'a clot of blood', 'sexual discharge' -- simple observation makes it clear that sexual discharge is involved, and 'a clot of blood' is simply wrong. Secondly, Asad instead of 'clot of blood' or 'sexual discharge' (I forget which -- I can't find my memo right now) translates it as 'germ cell', and I think instead of 'little lump of flesh' he says 'embryo'. I have other examples of Asad whitewashing threats against disbelievers of the Quran that Khan more directly presents.<br />
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Edit: I found the memo; here:<br />
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&amp;gt; 96:2 Has created man from a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood).<br />
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Asad translates this instead as 'germ cell'.<br />
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Also, three versus prior the Quran says God will kill millions of preborn babies in utero on Judgment Day, i.e. cause everyone to miscarry. (&quot;The Day you shall see it, [...] every pregnant one will drop her load [...]&quot;) Again, divinely-ordained capricious violence.<br />
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As an example of the constant barrage of &quot;death threats&quot; the Quran presents, I randomly selected this memo:<br />
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&amp;gt; 24:14. Had it not been for the Grace of Allaah and His Mercy unto you in this world and in the Hereafter, a great torment would have touched you for that whereof you had spoken.<br />
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I suppose Asad translated this text differently, because looking again at Khan's version, it appears to be in reference to those guilty of perjury in a legal trial of adultery. Nonetheless, &quot;You're lucky I don't beat the **** out of you&quot; is a vindictive threat, not something befitting a gracious deity.<br />
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&amp;gt; 29:68. And who does more wrong than he who invents a lie against Allaah or denies the truth (Muhammad and his doctrine of Islaamic Monotheism and this Qur'aan), when it comes to him? Is there not a dwelling in Hell for disbelievers (in the Onenes of Allaah and in His Messenger Muhammad)?<br />
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The claim is repeated ad nausea that rejecting the Quran is among the most wicked of actions, contrary to reason, together with other threats of suffering. It's contrary to reason for two reasons. First because it's said again and again and again every third page or so of the Quran. Secondly because it is by no means clear how refusing to pay homage to Mohammed is more evil than rape, kidnap, murder, etc.
u/save_the_last_dance · 1 pointr/islam

https://www.amazon.com/Study-Quran-New-Translation-Commentary/dp/0061125865

I recommend this as you're first quaran. It's practically a textbook on Islam bundled with a quaran. It includes commentary from a respected Muslim scholar, and study guides.

If you feel like you just want the English text, Abdel Haleem's translation for OXford World Classics is excellent. https://www.amazon.com/Quran-Oxford-Worlds-Classics/dp/0199535957/ref=pd_bxgy_14_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&amp;amp;psc=1&amp;amp;refRID=D4JB076JEGW58RRZXPEV

Mustafa Amur has written an entire step-by-step guide on converting to Islam, that's free on Kindle and very cheap on paperback: https://www.amazon.com/Welcome-Islam-Step-Step-Muslims-ebook/dp/B008FRA60E/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;amp;ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1478505547&amp;amp;sr=1-1&amp;amp;keywords=islam+convert

If you want something more comprehensive though, Ella Richardson wrote a more expansive book about it: https://www.amazon.com/Islam-Beginners-Basics-Muslim-Customs-ebook/dp/B01759SQF4/ref=pd_sim_351_2?_encoding=UTF8&amp;amp;psc=1&amp;amp;refRID=BE51FXHRD5TXEHBKE01F

u/TheCoconutChef · 1 pointr/islam

Sweet. That's a buy.

I also got The Study Quran, because it basically screamed "credible reference".

(Cannot say I enjoy the book I've referenced in the OP thus far. Unstructured, brutal in its stylistic approach (a text of law after all, but not even with an introduction) and, of course, non affiliated. In any case it denied the possibility of political parties within the first 10 pages and declared all laws not respecting the Koran as unjust, so there's that.)

Anyway thanks for the discussion.

u/NoMuslim · 1 pointr/exmuslim

Yeah me too I got this message

This is in regards to your post/comment on /r/Islam.

I would post on your thread but since I belong a peaceful sect of Islam which lives by the motto "love for all, hatred for none", my posts are automatically down voted by the couch potato scholars in that subreddit. So I send a pm to anyone who inquires about Islam.

There are 73 sects (http://www.real-islam.org/73_8.htm) within Islam and I belong to the /r/Ahmadiyya Muslim sect of Islam. We are persecuted by the main stream Muslims, yet despite their efforts, Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is the fastest growing sect of Islam (Independent research conducted by Oxford University confirms Ahmadiyyat as the fastest growing sect of Islam). Ahmadiyyat is the only Muslim sect to be unanimously banned by all 72 sects of Islam. This does not come as a surprise to Ahmadi Muslims as this fulfills a 1400 year old prophecy (hadith) concerning the division of Islam into 73 sects. The prophecy states that:

&gt; Abdullah bin Amar (RA) relates that the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) said "Surely things will happen to my people as happened earlier to Israelites, they will resemble each other like one shoe in a pair resembles the other to the extent that if anyone among the Israelites has openly committed adultery to his mother there will be some who will do this in my Ummah as well, verily the Israelites were divided into 72 sections but my people will be divided into 73 sections, all of them will be in the fire except one." The companions asked, 'Who are they O Messenger of Allah,' Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) said, "They are those who will be like me and my companions."

(Hadith book Tirmdhi Hadith no 171)

&gt; “Abu Hurayrah (RadiyAllahu Anhu) relates that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said: ‘The Jews were divided into 71 or 72 sects as were the Christians. My Ummah will be divided into 73 sects.”

(Al-Mustadrak)

The ruling to ban Islam Ahmadiyya was made by the representatives of the 72 sects within Islam, effectively making it 72 sects’ vs Ahmadiyyat, the 73rd sect of Islam. The prophecy is even more stunning when one considers the fact that this is the only ruling all 72 sects have ever unanimously agreed upon, never before or after have the 72 sects agreed collectively on any such rulings.

Persecution faced by Islam Ahmadiyya Muslims:

  1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECdBnE-Kj7k
  2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLcNTI8u3Pw

    Our communities main website which contains everything you need to know about us is, www.alislam.org, however, I will do my best to present a small introduction to Ahmadiyyat for you in this message.

    The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community was founded in 1889 and it spans over 195 countries with membership exceeding tens of millions. Islam Ahmadiyya is the only Islamic organization to believe that the long-awaited Messiah has come in the person of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) (1835-1908) of Qadian. Ahmad (as) claimed to be the metaphorical second coming of Jesus (as) of Nazareth and the divine guide, whose advent was foretold by the Prophet of Islam, Muhammad (sa). What differentiates Islam Ahmadiyya from the mainstream sects is our interpretation of Islam and the application of Islamic teachings.

    Natural death of Jesus (as) BBC Report which supports the Ahmadiyya view:

  3. Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfgtHnK9dw8
  4. Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bz0caFz7es
  5. Book http://www.alislam.org/library/books/jesus-in-india/index.html

    Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is the leading Islamic organization to categorically reject terrorism in any form. Over a century ago, Ahmad (as) emphatically declared that an aggressive “jihad by the sword” has no place in Islam. In its place, he taught his followers to wage a bloodless, intellectual “jihad of the pen” to defend Islam.

    Jihad in Islam according to Islam Ahmadiyya:

  6. https://www.alislam.org/jihad/
  7. (1 of 2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ3KgvcwoCA
  8. (2 of 2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pl9_z4FCKA

    Another thing I would like to mention is that despite there being 73 sects of Islam, the Quran and the Hadiths remain constant throughout all the sects, you will find they all have the same copy of the Arabic Quran and Hadiths. Their differences stem from their interpretation of those texts and on how they practice Islam. This being said, I would like to offer you a copy of the Quran with a commentary which can open up the hidden layers of the Quran for you.

    http://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/guide.htm?region=E1

    There is also a shorter translation which offers a brief commentary on each verse of the Holy Quran. This version is available free of charge from Amazon and can be easily read on any tablet or phone though the kindle app.

    http://www.amazon.ca/Holy-Quran-Maulana-Muhammad-Ali-ebook/dp/B0050CPG66/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1406097300&amp;amp;sr=8-1&amp;amp;keywords=ahmadiyya+quran

    Just a side note, the commentary is necessary as Islam has two texts of great importance, first and foremost is the Quran and second to that are the Hadiths (sayings of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) recorded by his disciples after his death). Consider the Quran as the Law and hadith a guide on how to apply said law. The commentary which I provided above does an excellent job of using both sources to relay the hidden meanings of verses for the reader, which only open up after a careful study of both the Quran and Hadith.

    Also, I would like to recommend a book for your reading pleasure; it talks of the origins of almost all major religions of the world and also takes on contemporary philosophies and compares them to Islam. It also does an excellent job of covering topics such as evolution and other major scientific theories and shows how not one contradicts Islam. Also, everything is backed up by references, so nothing is taken out of thin air.

    http://www.alislam.org/library/books/revelation/index.html

    The following are links to videos and articles which you might find helpful:

  1. https://alislam.org/library/browse/book/The_Essence_of_Islam/?l=English&amp;amp;p=3#page/279/mode/1up
  2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZqqm-M7HBA

  • Islam Ahmadiyya on Jinn:

  1. (1 of 2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfsU8840Ik4
  2. (2 of 2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-57b4v5t48
  3. https://www.alislam.org/library/books/revelation/part_5_section_3.html

  • Islam Ahmadiyya on finality of Prophet-hood:

  1. (1 of 3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr3af4zi9XY
  2. (2 of 3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T57UpjhQfYk
  3. (3 of 3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptZuCJDJ0qY

  • Short documentary on Prophet Muhammad (PBUH):

  1. (1 of 2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf4QKSicCu8
  2. (2 of 2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS_jOPY5Q8A

  • Collection of debates held at various Universities and Colleges by the Ahmadiyya Muslim Student Association: http://www.reddit.com/r/ahmadiyya/comments/1co8q2/the_amsa_ahmadiyya_muslim_students_association/

  • Short documentary on Drugs and Alcohol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYW2qemfcGI

    If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to ask in /r/Ahmadiyya or www.alislam.org. Have a wonderful day :)

    This message is not sponsored by /r/Ahmadiyya or www.alislam.org. This message is being sent by an Ahmadiyya member who is enthusiastic about sharing his beliefs with the world. Please do not reply to this account as there will be no reply; for answers to your queries, please refer to the sources listed above. Thank you.
u/rockytimber · 0 pointsr/Buddhism

Great, I do read stuff like this. Now, we are on a Buddhism forum, right? You have heard of Thomas Cleary, a wonderful translator of Buddhist texts right, and a man of some decency? Well, take a look at his approach to the Koran too: http://www.amazon.com/The-Essential-Koran-Heart-Islam/dp/0062501984

u/bdjohn06 · -4 pointsr/videos

How about the QU'RAN ITSELF. You can get it for free here. Get reading.