(Part 2) Top products from r/NewYorkMets

Yes, the Yankees were bestowed with the nickname "The Bronx Zoo" because of the overbearing tendencies of their late owner Steinbrenner, and his tendency to bring in high-priced free agents with enormous egos, to the detriment of the team. Underachieving teams, clubhouse fights, manager firings and rehirings, and general organizational instability were common in Yankeeland for a long time. When I was a kid, being a Yankee fan was a source of ridicule.

There were also issues with the surrounding area around the stadium being a dangerous, burned-out slum, with Steinbrenner threatening to move the team to New Jersey with great regularity, even during championship seasons like 1998. In 1998 a beam collapsed in Yankee Stadium and they actually had to play a home game at Shea against the Angels; Steinbrenner went apeshit, with many people surmising this had to be the last straw and the Yankees would wind up in Jersey.

Being a winning team for the last 15 years cured a lot of that, but for a long time the Yankees were considered a running joke and a shell of their great history.

A word on their history, too: 20 of their 27 championships were won during a 40-year period, before baseball's finances were rebuilt from the ground up to allow free agency in the mid-60s. Before that, the Yankees had a stranglehold on player movement and essentially used most of the rest of baseball as a large farm system, infusing less financially stable teams with cash in exchange for promising players. This is a great book which goes into considerable detail about the highly unethical practices the Yankees undertook to build their "great history", although it only touches on the 50s, which were only the tip of the iceberg.

After the business of baseball was rectified, the Yankees won only 2 championships in the next 33 years, after 20 in the previous 40.

The Yankees' history definitely overshadowed the Mets, but New Yorkers can be split into two pretty definitive groups: bandwagon jumpers and people who are repulsed by bandwagon jumpers. For that reason, no matter what the standings, there will always be Mets fans.

Also, on the documentary, I'm sorry, I can't come up with the name of the film, I just saw it when flipping channels. I will check out the one you mentioned though.

Can you find a source for that which doesn't come from the team or a news article?

The company responsible for the contest made a description of each name to help people understand it.

>According to the team, here are the descriptions behind each name:

>Bullheads: A local inhabitant of the Susquehanna River, a Bullhead is a bullhead catfish. The bullhead displays a tough and resilient character such as the Binghamton community.

>Gobblers: A symbol of the rich hunting culture of the area, the "Binghamton Gobblers" honors the outdoorsman lifestyle and turkeys who call Binghamton home.

>Rocking Horses: The "Binghamton Rocking Horses" celebrates the Triple Cities' rich history as the "Carousel Capital of the World."

>Rumble Ponies: A tribute to the Triple Cities' carousel heritage, the "Binghamton Rumble Ponies" is a herd of fierce horses that no carousel center pole can contain.

>Stud Muffins: While tipping a cap to the players on the field, the "Stud Muffins" celebrates the collection of carousel horses belonging to Binghamtonians.

>Timber Jockeys: Combining the fun of Minor League Baseball with the rich carousel history of the Triple Cities, the "Binghamton Timber Jockeys" pays homage to everyone that rides the carousels.

I've never seen or heard of a Rumble Pony in the Southern Tier before this contest and every search result pulls up the team name. The articles all talk about her having dreams and a book on carousels being her inspiration for the name.

Edit: Here is a better article talking about here "inspiration." Also I'm not trying to be an ass, if anyone has an actual reference to a Rumble Pony I'd love find it.

Sorry for the late reply. I got it on Amazon. $55 - yes, pricey, but I looked at it as buying two bobbleheads. Plus, my wife is a Phillies fan (I live in Phillies territory; it’s as bad as it sounds) so we both enjoy it.

FOCO Philadelphia Philles and New... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DH22J1X?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Edit: It’s also quality stuff. Heavy and safely packed. I’m not familiar with FOCO but I was pleasantly surprised how good the quality is.

I recommend staying away from talk radio idiots and following the team through the print media; I particularly like James Wagner of the New York Times in his baseball coverage. I also recommend learning about the sport through books and podcasts. Watching Mets games on SNY would also be a good way to follow the team on a daily basis.

• Watching Baseball Smarter by Zack Hample is a book that gives you a basic rundown on the sport as it is played.
  
  
• Faith and Fear in Flushing is a book by Greg Prince, a big Mets fan, who recounts the biggest moments Mets history from the early days to 2008 or so.
  
  
• You mentioned English football. Jeff Paternostro is a Mets fan and English football and wrestling fan who has a podcast, For All You Kids Out There, which covers baseball from an analytical and scouting perspective.
  
  
• One of my annual baseball traditions is picking up a copy of the Baseball Prospectus annual every February. Inside is an essay for every team and a short paragraph about every single player in the league.

I recommend on of these to add on for four bucks on Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/Love-Mets----z-Primer/dp/1600782043/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1370660279&sr=1-1&keywords=9781600782046

A great coffee table book that you can get on the cheap that is really beautiful.

I love mine.

Read [Amazin] (https://www.amazon.com/Amazin-Miraculous-History-Beloved-Baseball/dp/0312309929) and [The bad guys won] (https://www.amazon.com/Bad-Guys-Won-Championship-Uniform/dp/0062097636/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=the+bad+guys+won&qid=1554604792&s=books&sr=1-1) for all the history you need to knw,

We've retired 4 numbers:

37: Casey Stengel- first Manager and sweetheart of the Mets (if theres a saying about baseball that doesnt make sense It's either Casey or Yogi berra that said it)

14: Gil Hodges - Manager of the 69 Miracle Mets.

41: Tom Seaver - "The Franchise" The greatest pitcher to play for the mets up until deGrom. Used to hold the record for highest percentage of votes in the HoF till Griffey broke it.

31: Mike Piazza - The greatest home run hitting catcher of all time. Lead the team to the 99 playoffs and world series in 2000.

Hopefully theyll also retire 5 for David Wright. "The Captain" Led the team from 2004 to 2018. Leads the team in basically every offensive category, and was the face of the franchise for the last decade and a half.

Also know "Ya gotta Believe".

Welcome to the lifetime of suffering that is rooting for the New York Mets.

I also came new to baseball back around 2003, and after watching both teams for a season decided to go with the Mets. The Yankees, or even just the AL in general, are just... no.

Welcome to it, and you're gonna want this: Can't Anyone Here Play This Game Enjoy :)

Well, you’re in luck!

https://www.amazon.com/Im-Keith-Hernandez/dp/0316395730

Ed Smith, county cricketer who also played 3 Tests for Engand, wrote a book talking about comparing and contrasting his experiences with the Mets and English cricket. You might find it interesting: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Playing-Hard-Ball-Cricket-Baseball/dp/0349116660

This is a good place to start which covers the basics:

Watching Baseball Smarter: A Professional Fan's Guide for Beginners, Semi-experts, and Deeply Serious Geeks https://www.amazon.com/dp/0307280322?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

There also this:

https://www.amazon.com/If-at-First-Season-Mets/dp/0070283451

One of the many baseball books my dad had a separate shelf in the house when I was growing up. Good stuff.

My wife is pregnant with our first, and she got me this book. It's one of my favorite gifts I've gotten in quite some time.

Here it is for anyone that wants it themselves: http://www.amazon.com/dp/1607302853

Yes , back then they were called "Press Guides".

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1600780733/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1334102331&sr=8-1

He wrote a whole. Book about this year.

I think it should be a 30 for 30.

https://www.amazon.com/When-Shea-Was-Home-Yankees/dp/1613218702

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KSWV7E2/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_EcL0CbM2306M8

I got this one and a separate glass caraffe

>Absolutely it could have been a lot of things, but one thing we know for sure is that hardly anybody ever pitched 275 IP in a season without getting hurt.

That's completely untrue. Of the top 50 career innings pitched leaders of all-time only three had documented arm trouble. Three.

In the early 20th century pitchers used to pitch as many as 400 innings and more in a season and many of them like Cy Young, Grover Alexander, and Walter Johnson pitched effectively for over 20 years.

There are maybe 1 in 5 season innings pitched leaders that developed arm problems. For every Don Drysdale there are 5 Greg Maddox's and Steve Carltons. I don't know where you get most from. It's not even close.



And I don't know where you got your list of injured pitchers, but it's shaky at best. I think whoever wrote the article you pulled that from is suspect.

Sandy Koufax developed arthritis because of the torque he placed on his elbow when he threw his curveball. He said so himself. You can read it in his biography.

http://www.amazon.com/Sandy-Koufax-A-Leftys-Legacy/dp/0061779008

Jim Palmer recovered from an early arm problem to win 300 games and 3 Cy Youngs. He never had arm surgery and pitched all those innings after his bout with biceps tendonitis.

Juan Marichal developed Arthritis as a result of being injected with Penicillin in 1970, which he was allergic to. That's the documented reason for his arm problems.

Johnny Sain never pitched 200 innings after 1950 because he was converted to a reliever. His one documented arm injury was being hit on the hand with a line drive that effected his pitching after. He did have a bad year in '49 but I can't find any documentation that says he had a shoulder injury that year.

That's just off the top of my head. I'm sure there's more discrepancies but that's more than enough to prove my point.


Once again I catch you making shit up and stating facts not in evidence, or, at best, using misinformation. When will you ever learn?

Edit- And 1 more thing. Gooden didn't throw an unconscionable amount of pitches in the minors at a young age. He threw 140 IP's in '82. 191 IP in 83. Not unconscionable by any means.