(Part 2) Top products from r/Ultralight

I like your gear notes. Anyways, most of the weight cuts will come from your Big 3, which unfortunately are traditionally the most expensive changes to make. I've noted some budget choices, but otherwise being truly UL is left up to cottage manufacturers or DIY.

• Hammock is definitely a big anchor in terms of weight. There are some very well received budget (relative to tarps/mids/tents/etc) options such as Dutchware Gear or Dream Hammock Darien, etc. You can always use your current rain fly, stakes, etc. (edit: JK, it looks like your rain fly is built in, Simply Light Designs has a really solid cheap tarp though, among other choices).
  
  
• Your sleeping bag isn't that bad, an EE quilt would cut ~300g but the weight per $ value wouldn't be worth it. If you do switch to a lighter hammock, make sure that your CCF Pad + current sleeping bag configuration is still comfortable (as in, the usual setup would include an underquilt as well for insulation). I personally don't use an UQ with my UL hammock and am fine until about 4C/40F, but I sleep warm.
  
  
• For your pack choice, make sure the rest of your gear fits as well - both weight and volumes are important to match. Your pack should honestly be the last thing you buy. Regardless, the Osprey Exos you've linked is a decent choice, but if you have access to an REI so is the 45L Flash and such. These are generally lightweight but not UL, if you want to spend big $ you can go UL but the mid range 40-50L packs are definitely fine (and durable).
  
  
• You can cut your pot weight by 4x if you grab a DIY can pot, plus they're super cheap and easy to make if you need to replace it on the trail (same with any Al windscreens or lids).
  
  
• I recommend it often but I would bring another BIC mini, having redundancy in lighters is a good choice for little weight.
  
  
• I'm pretty sure water on the AT is plentiful (be sure to confirm this, I haven't been), but if that's the case I think just 2x 1L Smart water bottles are better than both your 3L Camelbak and extra Gatorade bottle. This would of course change your water filtering system as well, probably requiring you to get a Sawyer Squeeze or Mini. Overall it would be about $30-40 to cut 150-200g. If you don't make this change, atleast swap the gatorade for a smart water one.
  
  
• I haven't actually heard of sock liners, are they necessary? If your extremities are that cold I understand, but merino/smartwool Darn Tough socks are probably good enough on their own, plus you have a heavy pair of socks already.
  
  
• I personally would ditch the pants and just use running shorts and then use the wool baselayer when needed. Also I don't think you need both a long sleeve shirt and a wool baselayer shirt, seems overlapping. I generally have, tops: baselayer tshirt, fleece mid layer, down or rain jacket exterior. bottoms: running shorts with tights as needed....clothing is generally quite personal though, so do whatever you're comfortable with.
  
  
• Ditch your boots for Trail Runners, you'll love it. If you cut over 1,000g with this switch you're saving 1kg 3500km (35oz 2200miles, for you USC measurement folk). I don't think weight per distance is an actual thing, but I'm sure it ties into work / power / energy / other Physics concepts haha. If you're uncomfortable with trail runners or afraid of wet feet, I still push forward the idea because they're awesome footwear. Check out Skurka's piece on it if you're curious.
  
  
• Your med kit looks good, but a main thing to stress is to make sure you know how to use everything in it and the purpose of each item.
  
  
• Switch your swiss army knife for a cheap Dermasafe utility knife
  
  
• I like your completely unnecessary category, that being said, the Fitbit is indeed completely unnecessary, but you do you. Selfie stick is clearly essential..
  
  That's my rant, good stuff! Let me know if you have further questions or concerns or I'm dumb.

Great, just running down your list here are my thoughts:

An SMD Lunar Solo would be 10oz lighter and $70 cheaper while still offering similar features and roominess. Granted you'd need a trekking pole. Mine weigh 5oz each and cost $60 for the pair, and they're nice to have for stream crossings and up and downhills.

The $40 Soto Amicus stove outperforms the $34 Pocket Rocket 2 in every metric and is pretty similar to the $70 PR Deluxe.

I'm not a fan of sporks, and much prefer a spoon, your milage may vary. This 75 cent spoon is similar to what I have and it's lasted me 25 years. Mine weighs .38oz

You don't need a canister stand

When I've camped in the Mojave I just slept with my food in an Opsack. In Yosemite you'll need a bear can but you can probably rent one or wait to purchase for when the time comes. If you're camping in an area where a bear hang is recommended then you can get a pre-made bear bag kit or just make one with a stuff sack and some good throwing line.

I have some merino shirts but only wear them in the colder shoulder seasons because they're too warm for me when hiking in summer. They're also really pricey. You could get a $10 quick drying t-shirt like this, or a synthetic long sleeve collared shirt from the thrift store or a Silver Ridge, to protect your arms and neck from the sun and bugs.

How modest do you want to be with shorts? Ranger panties are popular for being so light and have a great range of motion. Generic soccer shorts work well. Patagonia Baggies are popular.

For a rain jacket it's hard to beat the Frog Toggs UL2 for price and weight. I went to my local walmart and tried them on to find a good size. ~$18

For long pants I'd suggest Body Wrapper dance pants. Light, cheap, breathable, comfortable, windproof, keep the bugs away, surprisingly warm when sitting around camp.

I don't bring sleep clothes, just sleep in my hiking clothes.

Med kit suggestions- leukotape strips on a quick release sheet for blister prevention and bandages, a few sterile gauze pads to make bandages with the leukotape, ibuprofen for pain and swelling, anti-diarrheal pills, small dropper of dr bronners soap for cleaning wounds

Things you're missing:

• Pack liner (garbage compactor bag or nylofume)
  
  
• Tent stakes (I like mini groundhogs)
  
  
• Dirty girl gaiters for keeping rocks out of your shoes
  
  
• Sunglasses
  
  
• Stocking cap/beanie (maybe your buff will work for that?)
  
  
• Lighter, swiss army classic knife with scissors and toothpick, toothbrush and toothpaste, anti-chafe cream like trail toes or diaper cream, sunscreen, purell, lightload towel
  
  
• poop kit with trowel, tp, zip locks for used tp, or go the bidet route and use water instead of tp
  
  
• a couple smartwater bottles
  
  
• you may or may not like having an umbrella to stay cool or hike with your hood down in the rain.
  
  Edit: a tip for lighterpack- there is a field for price and it'll add up the prices per category for you, making a running tally a little easier. there's also a link field which could maybe help you keep track of links to things you might want to buy.
  
  Once you've dialed in the list a little better, if you discover you're way under your budget then you could always consider upgrading something, like spending $100 more for a 10oz zpacks Hexamid Solo tent. Also, if you end up at a light enough weight, you could jump to a 14oz frameless pack which would be awesome.

A cat food can cooker, also known as an alcohol stove, is certainly a viable option. However, it is a bit more of a hassle than other stoves, which is why I would suggest purchasing a canister stove, like the MSR PocketRocket (there is also a knockoff on Amazon that is like $5 and works just as well, I own it).

Shelter wise, it really depends on if you carry trekking poles or not (which I highly suggest you do - I have [These] (http://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Carbon-Fiber-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1422329248&sr=8-2&keywords=cascade+mountain+tech+carbon+fiber+trekking+poles&pebp=1422329248681&peasin=B007E0ZBZI) and they are awesome as well as a great price).

I highly recommend looking at a TarpTent. They are extremely lightweight and not very expensive for the quality you are getting. Note that many of the tents require the use of a trekking pole or two to set up, but a very popular tent, the 2P Double Rainbow, does not.

Sleeping system - I suggest doing some research on backpacking quilts (check out EnlightenedEquipment.com) and decide if that is something you would like. If not, and depending on your budget, you could splurge for an extremely nice Western Mountaineering sleeping bag, or take a look at the much cheaper but still nice Kelty Cosmic Down 20 degree. Lots of options here.

Take a look at the Osprey Exos pack. Very lightweight with a great suspension system and nice pocket design. You shouldn't need anything larger than 60 liters or so for a thruhike.

In general, take a look at the various subreddits here (/r/campingandhiking /r/wildernessbackpacking /r/campinggear) as well as BackpackingLight.com. BackpackingLight is a huge help with everything gear related. Register an account there and read some forum posts and don't be afraid to ask questions. Do be aware that many of the people there are extremely ultralight and may push you towards gear that you may not be comfortable with. Just let them know your skill and experience level and they will help you out, bunch of good people over there.

Look at people's gear lists that they post and don't be afraid to ask questions. Good luck!

I actually really like the balance of lightening up my pack without sacrificing comfort. To me, that is the key to convincing others to lighten their packs.

That being said, the small things I see would be:

1. Why bring an iphone and ipod and speakers? Don't iphones and ipods have decent speakers? Especially for auidobook quality and not music. I bring an android phone backpacking, and if I leave it on airplane mode I can get through a few days without running out of battery, and I would imagine an extended battery (or solar charger) would weigh less then a speaker and an extra ipod. Also on the phone.. I don't know if this is possible on iphone.. but you can get a sleep timer app and have it shut off your phone after an hour so you save battery while you are sleeping.
   
   
2. I saw the suggestion earlier this week of getting a portable bidet instead of wet wipes and toilet paper. I would assume that would only be an option if you had good water source availability.
   
   
3. I generally wouldn't bring two sources of light. Since this is a comfort pack I would say to bring your favorite light and bring an emergency backup that is UL. I know petzl makes an "emergency" headlamp, or you could get an LED light that clips to your hat.
   
   
4. I imagine that the Morkniv knife is a bit on the heavy side in comparison to some fold up knives.
   Gerber Knife
   This gerber is a good, lightweight, cheap knife. I've had this one for almost ten years with no issues. This would shave an ounce or two.
   
   
5. Many people will echo this, but a quilt will be considerably lighter than the sleeping bag listed. That one is ~3 lbs, the Enlightened Equipment Revelation @ 20 degrees would come in at 19 ounces. That Teton bag looks like a great bargain, but if you have some extra money to burn and want to lighten your load further without compromising comfort, this would be a significant upgrade.
   
   
6. This is not so much a weight suggestion as a general safety suggestion. With some orienteering skill, a compass, and a good topo map you can drop those backup batteries for your GPS and be protected against dead batteries or a malfunctioning of your GPS. Also, extra batteries for your flashlight seems a little redundant if you have an extra light source as well.
   
   
7. One final suggestion: I didn't see any footwear listed above, but if you have clunky waterproof boots, you should consider getting a pair of lightweight trail runners. There have been many posts on this sub about the pros and cons, but that has been the single best change I have made to my gear in the last few years. If you are worried about ankle problems, I have read suggestions about getting lightweight ankle braces to supplement.
   
   Honestly your kit looks like a great balance of weight, comfort, and price. You could change nothing and be happy with what you have for a long time. The suggestions I made above are just if you have some extra dough and a desire to go a bit lighter.
   
   

I was in a similar position four years ago. For some things I regretted not going lighter, for other things I regretted not getting something more durable and functional. But for the most part I was and am happy with my gear.

Some random tips I wish I knew 4 years ago.

• Get a quilt slightly warmer and wider than you think you'll need. It's better to have a quilt too warm than a mummy that's too warm. Mummy's don't ventilate well and are really meant for Winter use.
  
• Get a good sleeping pad to go with that with atleast an R-value or 2-3. Heavy and reliable is better than light but fragile for this one.
  
  
• Get a Tarptent with bug netting and side entry. Their Products Page is super useful in helping you find what you need.
  
  
• Get some MSR groundhog knock-offs and extra long guy-line. You can pound groundhogs in with a rock or use the extra long guy-lines to tie off to trees or boulders.
  
  
• Get some cheap but light carbon fiber trekking poles. Lots of recommendations in this Sub.
  
  
• Dig some water bottles out of the recycling bin to re-use. Aquamira Droplets are what I use, but Sawyer & Katadyne water filters have gained a lot of popularity.
  
  
• Comfort is king for trail runners. Durability, tread, and other features are secondary.
  
  
• Goldtoe 100% nylon dress socks are cheaper,more breatable, and more durable than wool socks. I wear them doubled up.
  
  
• Follow Andrew Skurka's Core 13 Clothing List. And while you're at it, buy his book as a resource.
  
  
• Get a backpack that can carry it all. The backpack is what you buy last. Make sure it's fitted well and set-up correctly. I used my Ohm 2.0 for years before realizing that I hadn't set-up the straps properly. It made a night and day difference once I followed ULA's video on backpack fit.
  
  
• Get out there!

Give stoveless a try! It might not be for you, but it costs you nothing to give it a try. Here's a link with some tips: http://www.thehikinglife.com/2016/05/stoveless-hiking-q-a/

If it turns out you like it, the dollars spent per ounce saved ratio is off the charts ;)

What is "reasonable" in terms of cost vs weight saved is highly personal. Do you have a specific budget? If you said, "I have $100, what's the most weight I can save with that budget" people might be able to give you some more focused help. Climate is also important with recommendations. (Stoveless isn't going to work if you have to melt snow, many people find single wall shelters are unpleasant in extended cold, humid, rainy environments, etc.)

If you're interested in spending a bit of money, your tent is the obvious upgrade. Your tent + ground tarp weighs 63.17 oz.

Here's a few examples:

• SMD Skyscape Scout Budget single wall shelter, $100, 34oz
  
• Tarptent Notch ultralight double wall shelter, $285, 27oz
  
• Any of the various tarp + bug bivy combos usually hit a really good weight/cost combo if you are into tarp camping.

I'd recommend picking up a few books. Ultralight Backpackin' Tips by Mike Clelland, and Ultimate Hiker's Gear Guide by Andrew Skurka for starters. These will help you a ton.

Then, what was just said, ask yourself with each item, "Am I packing my fears?" "Do I really need this?" and "What would realistically happen if I left this at home?" I'm seeing a ton of unnecessary and/or redundant stuff, not to mention all the heavy stuff.

For example, paracord, multitool, lantern, lots of heavy stuff sacks, an ultra-heavy water reservoir, full bottle of soap (you only need a few drops of that stuff), 3 heavy knives (a tiny swiss army classic or even a razor blade would do the trick), tons of excessive, heavy and redundant clothing (use a simple, versatile layering system with no redundancy), etc. Your first aid kit weighs almost 13oz! You can easily make a good one for under 3. You have a space blanket and two redundant fire starters (emergency only items) when you are carrying a gas stove and a sleeping bag (actual versions of the things your survival kit is supposed to improvise). The list is quite long.

Also, I'd take a serious look at some of the UL/SUL hammock guys on YouTube and get some ideas from their videos on how to dramatically simplify and lighten your hammock system. It seems incredibly complicated and heavy to me, esp. based on what I've seen online from other Hammock guys. For instance, a +6oz gear pouch? A suspension system that weighs more than your actual hammock? Yikes. Definitely take a look at lots of the lighterpack links you see in people's flairs on here too and just get some ideas for how to simplify, reduce, and eliminate items in your gear list. YouTube is your friend. There are tons of UL and SUL guys on there who camp in Hammocks. Learn from their experience and save yourself from having to re-live their mistakes.

Good luck and have fun! I know it probably seems overwhelming now, but just whittle down one thing at a time and you'll get there. You're already off to a good start with having all your gear in a list online to create accountability and show you the true weights of everything. It's fun to see how light you can go with your gear list and your back will thank you for it!

The big three are heavy, plain and simple (about 2-3lbs heaver than many people's full load out). But they are what you have and I assume what you like based on your post.

• I agree the tarp could definitely be upgraded but $$$.
  
• The Nalgene is what it is. Unfortunately your description of why you go with it is a good metaphor in general for UL gear - it tends to need a bit more TLC. As @skol_vikings_skol said, ditch it!
  
• The rain gear is a bit heavy but also pretty spendy to improve at this point.
  
• I actually like the fleece over a down replacement. Everything that was said about down (lighter, packable, warmer) is true but you may find you need to hike in the fleece at 8k in the Cascades.
  
• Extra socks?
  
  I think the other people are right on some of the items - you can nickle and dime your way down at least a pound, maybe two, with some cheap alternatives.
  
  Lastly, and I don't mean to sound like your mom...I don't see any trekking poles or Microspikes. Are you familiar with your route and/or have you confirmed it's snow free? I've been spending most of my weekends in the Washington Cascades and have found plenty of places that still require snow crossing. A lot of it is relatively harmless and done in trail runners alone but I just thought I'd mention it.
  
  Here's my 1-2 night pack for this weekend:
  
  https://lighterpack.com/r/8rx0z

I hate researching power banks and chargers. I had decided on the Anker Powercore II 10K and Powerport Speed II but now I'm reconsidering.

Battery Packs: Anker Powercore II 10k(6.9oz) vs. Ravpower Slim 10k(6.8oz)

Ravpower is slightly lighter, and claimed charge time might be slightly faster at 3.5-4 hours compared to 4 hours on the anker. I also prefer the slim form factor.

Wall Chargers: Anker Powerport Speed II(4.6oz) vs. Aukey Dual Port Turbo Charger(4.09oz)

Aukey seems like an equally capable charger but half an ounce lighter.

I might be overthinking it, but the above Anker products are probably the most recommended around here so I want to make sure I'm not missing something.

Other suggestions are welcome to of course.

And while I'm here, anyone have a good source for short cables? Ideal would be in the 6"-12" range that support up to 18w. Need USB A to USB C, and USB A to Micro USB.

I'm a female in the bay as well and about your size.

I love my REI Flash 45! I just got it about a month ago and have taken it on one trip but I'm in love. Definitely check it out in the store and throw some of their weights in it. The price is nice as well!

These TNF shorts rock. I can't say enough good things about them. I think my thighs/butt are standard/athletic and the medium size that I have is definitely too big. They go up to XXL and they have short/regular/long inseam choices.

I carry the amazon dance pants as an emergency layer for hiking and for layering with my base layers at camp if it's chilly. Medium fits with room to spare.

Camp sandals! I just bought some Xero Shoes DIY Sandals. You will measure your feet to order the right size. I'm a size 8 normally. I cut the soles to size since I have less wide feet. I did a slightly heftier lace pattern. Total weight ended up being 148g. I'm pretty pleased with that. I haven't put them to the test yet though.

The CNOC Vecto (this is the one I have) has the big fill opening on the opposite side of the bag as the screw top opening, which helps keep the "clean water" side of things away from the "dirty water" side. I also like the softer rubbery feel of the CNOC as compared to the Evernew (I have this one.) I also like the closing mechanism better on the CNOC. Much easier when your hands are cold/wet. Weight and the space they take up in your pack when empty seem pretty comparable.

I do like both of these better than anything else I've used though, because of the wide opening that makes it easier to fill from most sources. They're much easier than something like THIS, for example, or the bags that come with the Sawyer which only have the one small opening.

I know this is late to the post but I use a Pedco Ultrapod II when I hike. Two of the legs fold into the third and are secured shut with a velcro strap that does double duty as an attachment device for mounting the tripod on branch, pole, etc... The tripod is pretty sturdy with my Fuji mirrorless and 18-55 on it. I've done some astro-photography with it and some long exposure on a rock in the middle of a creek. Those photos are both in my review of the tripod on Amazon and probably somewhere in my post history here. Pretty amazing for about $20.

I'm also working on a PCT gear list for next year, so take everything with a grain of salt but here are my thoughts:

• The tent is the main thing keeping you over 10lbs. A Duplex is great, but if you only plan on hiking by yourself on the PCT I would suggest looking at r/ULgeartrade religiously for a used hexamid ~ 11oz (or hexamid+ if taller than ~5'8''). They usually go for 300-350$. That's what I did, no DCF groundsheet if you want to save $ and go with polycryo floor that you can also use to cowboy camp if you want. -20oz (cuz you probably will add ~1oz of stakes)
  
• Cold soaking you could drop the can and stove, and switch to a ~2oz cold soak container -5.9oz
  
• Going completely no cook, you could drop the spork and cold soak container -2.5oz
  
• Do you plan on hanging your food? If so, you could replace the EE food bag with a Zpacks bear bag kit 50$ +2.5oz
  
• If not, just use an LOKSAK Opsak at around 1.5oz 15$ +1oz
  
• A 1oz FAK is pretty minimal. Usually it end up around 2-3oz for most people, but you go with what you're ok with.
  
• The Fonken USB compatible wall charger (link) ~10$ is around 1.25oz if you're ok with managing only with one port -1.75oz
  
• You could drop the sleep leggings, wind pants should be enough warmth and are ok to sleep in -5.6oz
  
• You don't have any active insulation. Depends on your style of hiking, the Frogg Toggs might be enough over your hiking shirt for the most part if you're at camp early enough to wear your puffy when it gets colder. You decide on this one!
  
• The puffy is heavier than it needs to be, but it's REALLY expensive to get a light one and if you like yours I think you should go with what you have.
  
• The Pa'lante might get a bit uncomfortable with the bear can, but starting in the Sierra directly you could probably choose your start date to make sure there isn't too much snow (if we have a low snow year) so you don't have to take much snow gear.
  
  That would save you ~31-35oz or 1.9-2.2lbs for a cost of around 350-400$, bringing down your BPW to ~8lbs.

Can't offer an opinion on that Evernew bladder but the CNOC Vecto has similar utility and has gotten good to great reviews thus far. Just got mine this past christmas so I haven't gotten to put it to much use yet, but it seems like a good piece of kit. Don't know if it has the same build quality as Evernew, but worth taking a peak at.

You sure these are lighter than just Anker's batteries?

Your setup: 9180mAh total/6.8oz = 1350mAh/oz

Anker PowerCore 10,000mAh: 10,000mAh/6.35oz = 1575mAh/oz

Anker Astro E1 6,700mAh: 6,700mAh/4.2oz = 1595mAh/oz

Anker PowerCore 3350mAh: 3,350mAh/2.56oz = 1308mAh/oz

It's neat but unless you really only need exactly 1 or 2 of those battery packs (and care about ~0.5oz savings), I'd say just stick with Anker due to convenience and safety.

EDIT: If you got a few of the exact same batteries, you could potentially build a small plastic attachment with a single circuit board and just swap out the batteries. That would be both cheaper and lighter. The extra USB ports are pretty unnecessary.

For poles I can recommend the Black Diamond Distance Z-Poles. I've heard good things about the Cascade Mountain carbon fiber poles, which are quite a bit cheaper and lighter.

Like a lot of folks here, I use an Enlightened Equipment Revelation quilt with a Thermarest NeoAir Xlite pad. Highly recommended.

Don't hesitate to mail order. REI simply does not carry some of the best ultralight gear.

You're welcome! Yeah, the place I linked to for those bottles- they also sell a lot of other small bottles that are great for repackaging other stuff, as well as odds and ends that can save you weight in other places.

Yeah, those are the pants I was talking about. You can get them at Amazon too. I know the waist looks goofy in the pics but it's a normal waist you'd find on any other wind pants, it's just tailored to ride high so a lot of people double it over a few times so it's not around your belly button. It's lightweight material so I don't think it would be too bad with a waist belt but I'm beltless so I can't say for sure.

I use a small xlite too in addition to the thinlight. When the ground is pokey the thinlight can protect the xlite. When it's cold I put the thinlight on top and it helps boost the warmth of the xlite. Sometimes I use the thinlight under my feet.

As a newb, and with slightly different goals (more interested in motocamping, than backpacking, personally), I may be mistaken, but I don't think there is a list. Identify your goals and your needs, and that will inform your gear decisions.

I'd recommend checking out Andrew Skurka's book. It's well-written, and informative. https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Hikers-Gear-Guide-Second/dp/1426217846/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1505101910&sr=8-1

There's also some good info on his website if you want to save a few dollars (I haven't looked too much into the site, so I don't know how much the site and the book differ).

The sidebar here has some links that look really promising, and there are plenty of shake-down requests you can read to get an idea of what you might want.

Tent: Six Moon Designs Lunar Solo

You and I are the same build, this is a very inexpensive, light, one pole setup and roomy tent, you + gear no problem, if bought off of backcountry.com during their 20% off sale it’s like $170-180

Wind pants:

These!

$20, 3.5 oz, you’ll want the medium

Trekking Poles: Cascade Mountain Tech Carbon Cork, $45 shipped on amazon

Torso warmth: Walmart> Climate right Cuddlduds fleece set $20 plus a down jacket from Uniqlo.

Pack is super personal, but anything from a 2016 Osprey Exos/ Sierra Designs Flex Capacitor/ ULA pack to a fancier Superior Wilderness Designs Long Haul 40 (definitely recommend based off of reviews here) or HMG (heard mixed things) will do the job.


These are amazing budget options, if you want to upgrade from here feel free but this stuff will handle the JMT no problem.

hey /u/psychojunglecat3 , /u/vv0rm , and /u/kananjarrus

i got a response from anker...

First of all, let me thank you for your great support to Anker products. To your requirement, we would recommend below wall charger model for you, and you could use the blue QC port to recharge our PowerCore II 10000, and you will still have other 3 Power IQ port to charge your other devices:

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charge-Charger-PowerPort-PowerIQ/dp/B01N2HIR9R/ref=sr_1_11?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1495091165&sr=1-11&keywords=Anker+wall+charger

If two output ports are enough for your needs, you may also consider below model:

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charge-Charger-PowerPort-PowerIQ/dp/B01IUSYF8G/ref=sr_1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1495091165&sr=1-2-spons&keywords=Anker+wall+charger&psc=1

Hope this helps and let me know if you have any further concerns. Thank you!*

I've found Backpackinglight's forum very helpful. In the gearlist section, people post their lists and get comments on them. Lighten Up is a short and simple book on the topic if you are completely new to lightweight backpacking. Also, "ultralight" is a loaded term. It implies a base weight (all the gear without food and what you're wearing) in the single digits. If this is what you really want, check out Ultralight Backpackin' Tips Otherwise, a baseweight in the teens are usually considered "lightweight" backpacking.

Also, don't just stick with stuff from REI. There are a lot of cottage industry stores that sell quality backpacking products. A few that I can think of off the top of my head are: Tarptent, Gossamer Gear, Six Moon Designs, Jacks R Better, ULA, Feathered Friends, Nunatak, Tenkara, and Bushbuddy. Of course, they are a bit more expensive, however, they are all well tested and trusted by a lot of backpackers.

Get your backpack last.

Honestly, I would just save up your money and get something that is silnylon or silpoly. 25 oz for a tarp is really heavy. Look into Etowah Outfitters and maybe warbonnet (I think they have one ground tarp). The price will be higher, but if you could get a more packable, lighter tarp for $100-130 it'll be worth it IMO

Edit: here are some good alternatives, keeping price in mind:
Sanctuary SilTarp 10 x 8: https://www.amazon.com/dpB01E6454HOref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_n2-6xbP8MYM51

Same weight, cheaper: Equinox Egret Tarps (8 x 10-Feet) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00205GHZU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_93-6xb309YGQT

I have the Paria Sanctuary and I love it! Its your basic 8x10, no-frills tarp. It's big enough for me and my SO w/ some gear and it has the the added benefit of being super cheap ($79) but also good quality. Their website says that they should have some more back in stock at the end of the month, here's the page

Also: I agree that you're likely to find 13x13 too big unless you're tarping with 3+ people.

u/mike_rohsoft u/walkincrow42 u/baugli u/BobTheTaco21 u/Ebs14 u/PM_ME_YOUR_SHELLCODE

Alright gentlepersons. Good news and bad news. Bad news- The multimeter I bought was kind of a bust and wouldn't record as it was supposed to. The good news is that all of them charged at 18W, so it really just came down to weight (all weights are actuals from my scale)

1. Mezone - 6.63 oz
   
   
2. Tqka - 7.00 oz
   
   
3. M1 - 7.24 oz
   
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   Here are some additional observations...
   
   M1 - The listed weight on Amazon wasn't even close to the actual weight. Also just felt really cheap.
   
   Mezone - Although this was the lightest option, it wasn't the one I ended up keeping. I'm sure it would have been a good option and it has a lot of positive reviews on Amazon.
   
   Tqka- This one felt like it was solid and well built. I kept it. It sounds petty, but the deciding factor for me was the cable that came with it. My phone uses USB-C and my headlamp uses Micro USB. The cable that came with the Tqka has BOTH in the same cable. In my mind, having only one cable saves me 0.5oz, so even though it's heavier I'm still saving weight overall. Full disclosure, I learned about this one from Jupiter's PCT gear list video (u/Ruuven) --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxsyGfjDEgI
   
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   Side note: I also bought this wall adapter and am really happy with it (1.37oz)
   
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Get these instead: https://www.amazon.com/Body-Wrappers-Ripstop-Pants-701/dp/B0002UR7SQ

Sizing chart here: https://www.discountdance.com/dancewear/style_701.html

~3 oz, <$20, relaxed fit to layer over tights, dries super quick.

Wind pants > rain pants for most 3-season conditions because the heat generated by your legs hiking needs to vent somewhere, otherwise you're going to sweat & wet out anyways. Plus getting wet on your legs doesn't matter as much as your body core for warmth.

They started out as a ultralight backpacking company. They were successful at that and had some of the best gear out there.

They abandoned the designs that they started with, and replaced them with gear that I really didn't even consider ultralight. I'm not sure if they got rid of the breeze, and cave because Jardine owned the designs or because they didn't fit their new business model.

Even after the Jardine era some of their gear was quite nice, and still pretty light. But over the next few years they seemingly decided to compete with companies like The North Face, started selling 'lifestyle clothing' and things like that.

If you need proof that they completely abandoned their original mission check out their history page. http://www.golite.com/Info/Values/History.aspx
They go out of their way to not mention Ray Jardine, or Beyond Backpacking/the pct hikers handbook. In fact they use the phrase "lighten up" which IMO is a cheap way to plug this book http://www.amazon.com/Lighten-Up-Complete-Ultralight-Backpacking/dp/0762737344 as opposed to anything Jardine may have in publication.

And besides how can a company called Golite have a founder who is overweight?

I hate the wet wipes thing too. I'm super happy to see another travel bidet user here. IMO, it's the best way to keep yourself clean out on the trail.

I use a different one than you do, and it weighs in at 65 grams. I can either use a sheet or two of TP afterwards to dry off, or simply pull up my merino boxers and let the water disperse into them - they're usually dry within a few minutes.

Brondell Travel Bidet on Amazon

Gear is expensive so I'll give you a range, from cheapest you may find to very expensive but awesome.

Pack - get one that fits or face the back pain consequence - $50 for an ASolo UL to $500+ for Custom bag.

Sleeping bag - consider a quilt instead - All depends on where you live. I have a $35 dollar bag and a $450 bag I use one in the tropics on one in the alpine or arctic.

Tent - If you're camping alone, in a treed area, get a henessey hammock. They're $150 or so. You can also get a tarp ($50) and bivy ($100 used) combo. Don't lug a 4 person tent around for 1 or 2 people.

Next purchase - Stove. Make (check r/myog or cat food camp stove for info) or buy. You can also get a bomb proof msr stove for $35 + fuel.

Getting a pack that fits is the most important thing. A sleeping bag will fit in any pack because it's just fabric and fuzz.

Tent basics:
Big Agnes, TarpTent are the reasonably priced and best performing UL tents.
If you are 1 person get a 1 person tent. If you are 2 people, get a 2 person tent.
Look into hammock, bivy/tarp, and tent options and pick the one that suits where you'll be camping.

You'll want a 50-70L pack for trips longer than a weekend.

Mike Clelland has a really cheap and great tip book, he was a NOLS leader forever and knows his shit, and explains it with cartoons.

After going through the research, this is what I ended up buying from Anker. It seemed to have the best form factor and power to weight ratio:

Anker [Upgraded to 6700mAh] Astro... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XS9RMWS?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

If I had to go on a longer trip I’d probably snag 2 of these.

This is also handy; super short iPhone cable:

AmazonBasics Double Nylon Braided... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F9T4KYJ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

I side with most other bladder users in this thread: I need to be reminded to stay hydrated, or I will just cruize onward, throwing caution to the breeze.

The bladder is for sure not as light as the equivalent in smart water bottles, but the penalty is much lower than people around here make it sound. My 3L bladder weighs ~200g with hose + quick disconnect for filling, three 1L smart bottles weighs roughly 150g (I only have 700ml smart water bottles on hand, so I'm guessing) So maybe 2-3 oz difference. That can be enough for some, but it pays for the convenience.

Filling up is a breeze, and I do it on the fly: Fill katadyn BeFree 1L dirty bottle. Screw on the filter, and snap it into the bladder's hose. Squeeze! You can do it all without taking off your pack, or even stopping.

I'm also a hammocker, so the bladder pays double when I get to camp, and I can slide out my waterbag, and hang it from my ridgeline. This pressurizes the contents, and filling a pot for cooking is a one-handed affair! Plus when you're lying down in your hammock, you have instant access to water. I love it, and I don't think I'll ever give it up.

My only issue is one of the others mentioned here: hard to measure how much water you have. I don't have a quick fix for this issue, and it is a definite knock of the bladder system. I'm thinking maybe the back panel of my next bag will be made of clear Cuben, so I can just shine a flashlight on the underside of my bag, and the bladder will glow. I'll let you know how it goes!

Anyone know what the lightest possible 3L bladder is?

Doing a week long trip in glacier national park in a couple of weeks. A friend is joining us last minute who is going to use our smaller quarterdome tent. That leaves me with a 20+ year old Eureka timberline. It's a great tent for car camping and short overnights but way heavier than I want for longer distance hiking.

On such short notice I was considering a Paria Outdoors tarp tent:
https://www.amazon.com/Sanctuary-SilTarp-Ultralight-Waterproof-Backpacking/dp/B01E6454HO/

However it'd be the first tarp tent for me and even with the inner mesh net they sell my girlfriend is freaking out that the tent will blow away or somehow magically attract bears.

Is there another model tent out there under $200 I could get quickly? Or am I better off trying to convince my girlfriend that tarp tents are fine and this is the one to get?

I think shes worried about being exposed to the elements and not having any privacy within the group while using this tent.

Start with a good book or two. I recommend Beyond Backpacking, Lighten Up!, and The Ultimate Hiker’s Gear Guide. Any of these books will give a good 50,000-foot view of the world of things you should be thinking about when introducing yourself to backpacking.

Easy 1.5 oz: Gerber LST Ultralight Knife, Fine Edge [06050] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00004WA4R/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_JezsDbC3SPXYJ

4 oz, get an OR helium II
Switch your 12 oz fleece to a 6-7 oz down jacket (Exlite anorak or superior down parka). Adds up to roughly 12 oz

Sure! So this is a bidet:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B008CSDKSQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499647593&sr=8-1&pi=SL75_QL70&keywords=travel+bidet

What you do is instead of using toilet paper, you squirt your butt with water by squeezing the bidet bottle. This eliminates the need for TP as it'll clean just as effectively.

Somebody posted this a while back. Great deal. 8x10 would be good for two people.

To help you get some better recommendations: Do you want/need quick charge 3.0? Do you want usb-c? Stuff like this can help people chime in with good recommendations.

I personally grabbed a Aukey of Amazon for $11 lightning deal.

Dual port

Quick charge 3.0

weight is 109 grams which is heavier than I really wanted but I assume it is because it is USB 3.0 and Quick charge.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BBZJ31Y/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I use a bladder because of the easy access, easy fill, and reusable aspect of the Hydrapak 3L. It comes with a weight penalty of 48g (150g Hydrapak 3L + hose vs. 102g Smartwater 1L [x3]). I'm not concerned with the durability of the bladder. I store it in the side pocket so I don't have to unpack it, and I can easily monitor water levels.

On a similar note, you can add an attachment to your bladder hose to quickly refill it without unpacking your pack as well.

Different strokes for different folks.

A backpack should be the very last thing you buy since it carries all the other stuff.

Hiking shoes or trail runners + socks + insoles should be the first. They must fit you perfectly and don’t go cheap

The second thing to buy for only $10 is https://smile.amazon.com/Ultimate-Hikers-Gear-Guide-Second/dp/1426217846/

Yep, Amazon. I'm getting these ones that come in the 8 pack. I have an address in Niagara Falls, NY, and I get stuff shipped there and then bring it back across. I have a couple of packages waiting to be picked up, so I thought I'd throw these in as well, and offer them to anyone here who is interested.

https://www.amazon.com/Body-Wrappers-Ripstop-Pants-Black/dp/B0002UR7SQ/ref=sxin_1_sxwds-bia-wc1_0

Size reference - I'm 5'9" 140lb (women's pant size 4), the small fits great and the x-small would have easily worked too

Thanks for contacting them.

I feel like it's worth noting, to get the quick charge input, you do need to use their QC input adapter. Assuming one would want a two port charger, Amazon has the QC 3.0 two port listed at 4.6 oz.

The older 10k (6.2oz) will charge a bit faster, in my experience, with my 2.4ax2 port (3oz) at around 6 hours. That is about the same listed on the newer 10k's amazon page of 5hr 40m with a 2a charger.

Assuming that the 4.6oz is accurate, there is a 2.6oz difference total for a savings of 2 hours if the 4hr charge time holds true as well. Still significant time savings but at a price.

Okay, I got this.

G4Free 40L backpack - $18.99


Paria Sanctuary Sil Tarp - $79.99


Polycro ground sheet - $7.98


Sleep pad - $16.79


Down throw - $31.95


Ultralight, summer set up straight from Amazon for about $150.


edit: oops, you said no tarp. You could add the bug net for $65 and be at ~210 for an ultralight, modular set up. Could also subtract the polycro sheet and save a few bucks if you buy the inner net.

Can someone tell me the difference between these 3 10,000mAh Anker external batteries? One
Two
Three

I don't know the difference between Quick Charge 3.0;PowerIQ, PowerIQ, and PowerIQ II.

This is the wall charger I have. Which one of those external batteries will work best with my wall charger??

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerCore-Lipstick-Sized-Generation-Batteries/dp/B005X1Y7I2/ref=sr_1_7?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1485864082&sr=1-7&keywords=anker+charger

I've got one of these which i use in every day life since its so small. get one full charge out of it quickly, and then maybe another 20-30% of a charge left. This is for iphone 7.

I have a heavier larger and bigger capacity anker which i take on multi day trips, but the smaller one is perfect for over nighters or just having in my car or bag as a failsafe.

So cheap you could buy two and keep them in different spots

Oh hey if you, your friend, or anyone else here is interested in learning more about staying fresh below the belt while minimizing waste, consider a travel bidet, such as this one. Works great! It's a solid replacement for your bidet at home (if you have one). I don't have the exact wait, but I think it's only a few ounces.

I wouldn't recommend taking this on the PCT. The vertical orientation means it's going to block at least 2 and possibly 3 ports on a power strip (and both terminals on a normal wall outlet).

Sounds like you've done extensive research on this, but, on a popular trail like the PCT, power outlets can be hard to come by in town. Is there anything with horizontal orientation that isn't as heavy as this Aukey at 7.2oz?

I really enjoy Lighten Up! and Ultralight Backpackin' Tips as well. Those two really helped me think about what I was carrying on my trips. It made me a lot more weight conscious.

I just bought this water bag to use with my squeeze, hoping it works for easy filling and gravity feed. Haven't had it in the field yet. Vecto 2L Water Container and Bladder https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075NQT5KP?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

What's your budget?

1. Granite Gear Virga 2 (Long) -- That maintains your 58 liter capacity while dropping 33oz for $140 @ $4.24/oz
   
2. Princeton Tec Byte -- Saves you over 1.8oz for $18 @ $10/oz. That weight is with 2 AAA batteries which gets you over 90 hours of burn time.
   
3. What do you actually use on the Leatherman? I only ever use a knife or maybe scissors. If you just need a light knife, I like these two. For the weight of that leatherman you could carry a decent fixed blade.
   
4. Lose the dry bags and trade them in for standard kitchen trash bags. Even with "heavy duty" trash bags you'll gain about .5-1.0oz per bag
   
5. What's the "towel" for? I keep some towel/rag type things around for general cleaning, wiping off my tent/gear when it's went from rain/condensation, etc. For this I go to the cleaning aisle of my grocery store and find the cheapest thinnest dish rags. The ones I use are very thin, you can practically see right through them. I cut them in half because they're huge. Each one is 6g. It's more than enough absorbancy for basic camp work.
   
6. You're already using one Smartwater bottle, why not drop the Nalgene and use two "disposable" water bottles?

What do you already have? Not everything needs to be replaced. A list with weights is always helpful. We like to weigh stuff, and we are obsessed with that (okay, not everyone is).

There are two books that really helped me Lighten Up! and Ultralight Backpackin' Tips.

Read Skurka gear guide before you buy anything & Ultralight Backpackin' Tips to get you in "UL mode', there rest will be sort of easy..

Learn to love trail runners - it changed everything for me

This one?

That's actually the charger I use for my non-hiking phone. Well that was easy.

Hopefully someone can chime in but there are a pair of dancing pants thats are highly rated for the price. I'll see if I can find them.

EDIT: Looks like they are body wrappers. Some reviews on BPL.

Rip-Stop Pant,701BLKL,Black,Large https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002UR7PY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_EUEJzbATDTAMH

Amazon is your friend.

https://www.amazon.com/Santa-Fe-Bean-Southwestern-7-25-Ounce/dp/B000FI701Y/ref=sr_1_3_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1519239520&sr=8-3&keywords=dehydrated+refried+beans&dpID=51KxO3C8SgL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

1.5 lb, two-person net tent - $40

1 lb, 8x10 tarp with guylines and stakes - $80

Total - $120 and 2.5 lbs for a non-free standing setup (need hiking poles). Enjoy!

https://www.amazon.com/Santa-Fe-Bean-Southwestern-7-25-Ounce/dp/B000FI701Y

Dude, these things are amazing. Don't carry canned beans...

Dance pants on Amazon

Cheap and light plus they work well. If you don't like em then you're only out $15-20 rather than $100 for a name brand with essentially no weight difference. I have em, used em, love em. They're in my pack year round.

You can them on amazon: Santa Fe Bean Co., Instant Southwestern Style Refried Beans, 7.25-Ounce Pack (Pack of 8) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FI701Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_IMPBMNkasV7bT

FYI: 1.2 liter Imusa mug selling for less than 2 bucks right now on Amazon. Prime shipping.

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https://www.amazon.com/IMUSA-R200-12W-Aluminum-1-25-Quart-Silver/dp/B009SBB7HM/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=imusa+mug&qid=1566827107&s=gateway&sr=8-1

Lol, $62.00 on Amazon Canada

This info is for anyone considering the IMUSA mugs: They make a slightly smaller version that is 10 cm or (.7) quarts or 662 ml. Weight: 71 grams/ 2.5 ounces. IMUSA USA R200-10

My suggestion: Bear can or bear bag. Second suggestion: Haribo sugar free gummy bears. Why carry all that heavy food in your stomach?

I have used these two with good results. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B005X1Y7I2/ref=s9_acsd_zgift_hd_bw_b7ijc9D_c_x_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-11&pf_rd_r=5W1QE206STR7EZ6D3BN0&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=54b38481-5b82-5121-915b-13f684dd6327&pf_rd_i=7073960011&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerLine-Lightning-Certified-iPhone/dp/B013JLOTUS/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1510415105&sr=8-8&keywords=lightning+cable+anker

Thanks for the deets, found these Hefty ones which seem similar (2.5 mil thick) so may be a bit heavier but could be tougher.

https://www.amazon.ca/Hefty-E2-1218-Count-Trash-Compactor/dp/B002BXRGQA/ref=sr_1_2?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1510093702&sr=1-2&keywords=compactor+bags

Given your weights, it seems there would at least be a difference in material thickness. I have the American 'Hefty' ones which are approx 68L and weigh 65g.

I'm in Germany currently and we also don't have them here usually, but I bought some through Amazon.

I personally couldn't find any bags thick enough for me. Perhaps you could try looking in a builders merchants, I'm sure they'd have something heavy duty enough.

I heard good things about the imusa mug that's less than $8 and 2.4 oz

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009SBB7HM/ref=pd_aw_sim_79_1/175-1783632-4562403?ie=UTF8&dpID=416279%2B6u-L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL100_SR100%2C74_&psc=1&refRID=VHDF0WR3P09B7V89939E

I am in the process of trying different combos out. I got hiking pants that i can wear as 'kakhis' at work so as dual purpose was worth the investment as lunch hikes are more enjoyable. but they weigh A POUND! would never bring on a long multi night hike, instead shorts, tights, and wind pants [and for winter/snow I add M65 pants and fleece pants]. here is a pair from sidebar for $20 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002UR7PY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1&psc=1

True. A non-ultralight luxury is the Brondell Travel Bidet
http://www.amazon.com/Brondell-GS-70-GoSpa-Travel-Bidet/dp/B008CSDKSQ/

Really like the Ultrapod ii

Zendura A3PD 10000 has a power delivery/quick charge compatible input/output so it can fully recharge in 3 hours and supports pass-through charging so the brick and your stuff can charge at the same time using one small outlet. 6.8oz/195g

Pair with the 1.28oz Fonken 18W wall charger and you have the lightest and fastest charging 10000 setup on the market that I know of

I have one of those and I have a Pedco Ultrapod II and I prefer the Ultrapod. It just feels more stable, and it weighs less (4.2 oz vs 6 or so). Costs $18.50.

I have this slightly different 3rd gen 3350 and it works fine for short trips. Not really any complaints. It does its job.

Right, so the max input for the Powercore II is 9V 2A which is 18 watts. You want a wall charger that gives out 18 watts.

For 1 USB port, I have this charger and it takes just over 4hrs to charge my Powercore II. It's 1.3oz and I bet there's probs some around the 1oz range.

For 2 USB ports, there was a good discussion this week on different options and if it was even worth it in the end at all

These are the ones I've been buying. And I believe they're the same ones that Mike Clelland draws a picture of in his book (whatever that's worth).

Pretty heavy at about 2.7oz each (on my scale), but VERY durable. I use one bag for many trips and many training hikes.

https://www.amazon.com/Hefty-Trash-Compactor-Bags-GAL/dp/B002BXRGQA

I use a trailpix universal. It uses my trekking poles and a single tent style collapsible pole for the third leg. It's definitely the lightest tripod solution around, but isn't perfect. It takes a minute or two to get it set up, and when in using my poles for my shelter I have to borrow a friend's so i can do my night photography.

I think i will also pick up one of [http://www.amazon.com/Pedco-UltraPod-Lightweight-Camera-Tripod/dp/B000ANCPNM] (these) which will be better for run and gun static shots while hiking.

That 3.6oz IMUSA 1.25 liter aluminum mug is on sale for $1.97 on amazon prime again. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B009SBB7HM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Nope, read it correct. The mouth piece has a quick disconnect so you can pop it off. Sawyer sells a kit to make a normal hose have this function so you could do it with any reservoir. But you can take the one pice out the will go into the end of the drinking tube and hook it up to the outlet of your Sawyer with a small piece of tubing. I was about to type out a detailed explanation but the Amazon page has it all in pictures. Or YouTube "Sawyer quick disconnect" and there are videos showing it. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EURFBKI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_o8oQCbY7Y92XR

I run hot so shorts are a must for me. Bring a pair of [these] (https://www.amazon.com/Body-Wrappers-Ripstop-Pants-Black/dp/B0002UR7SQ/ref=sr_1_15?s=kitchen-bath&ie=UTF8&qid=1498512185&sr=8-15&keywords=dance++pants) to throw on as needed. only 4 oz and keep me warm down to the forties without a base layer.

Hey, for what it's worth, I bought the Anker lipstick charger and weighed it at 2oz exactly. So it's actually lighter. That weight doesn't include a cable btw.

This is the one I have

Gerber LST Ultralight Knife, Fine Edge [06050] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00004WA4R/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_COi1BbV109TAE

We have two of the Ladybugs actually, one is 15 and the other 17, so pretty much the same weight as the Gerber.

I saw it on sale at Amazon today.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1426217846

https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Carbon-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI

Only $40 on amazon

You can unscrew the sports cap part of the BeFree and fit the Sawyer adapter on it.

Also, the BeFree screws into Hydrapak Seekers

I bring the Squirt PS4 in winter when the pliers are handy to fix snowshoe or binding gear. Rest of the year the Swiss army classic is nice to have, though its tweezers aren't great. If I'm really going UL its a Derma-Safe but I don't consider that sufficient when I'm solo off-trail.

13 bucks on amazon

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say Amazon wasn't playing nice with you.

Here's the dancer pants. Mags on Whiteblaze plugged these. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002UR7PY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_g0yXxbB580YSE

I picked up these: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002UR7PY/

https://www.amazon.com/Pedco-UltraPod-Lightweight-Camera-Tripod/dp/B000ANCPNM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1509546568&sr=8-1&keywords=ULTRAPOD

That's just a normal trash bag. Just about every store sells them.

To my understanding trash compactor bags are made to be more durable than ordinary trash bags, which is the reason they are so popular in the American UL culture. People have used them for multi-month thru-hikes, whereas ordinary trash bags might get shredded after few uses.

how do you think the lipstick size/capacity? I have the 26K mah, and itsoverkill. Looking to get the powercore mini 3350mah for shorter trips

https://www.amazon.ca/Anker-PowerCore-Lipstick-Sized-Generation-High-Quality/dp/B005X1Y7I2/ref=pd_cp_504_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=HFRGBJPC0QYTF0PP7GC8

After 9 years of carrying a Classic SAK and rarely using anything but the blade, I just switched to one of these (7 grams): https://www.amazon.com/Derma-safe-Folding-Utility-Survival-5-pack/dp/B0067EMCVI

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0067EMCVI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I use these. Use the Mora knife sometimes, but if I can prep everything ahead of time, this is my new goto UL knife.

[Derma-Safe Knife] (http://www.amazon.com/Derma-safe-Folding-Utility-Survival-5-pack/dp/B0067EMCVI) they only weigh .2oz and you can buy 5 of them for $10.

http://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Carbon-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI

https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Carbon-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI

You can call your local Costco YMMV

If you do not have a Costco membership they are 30 dollars on amazon from Mountain Tech but with 12 dollars shipping.

They're in store only and you need membership - but I think these are the poles: http://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Carbon-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI

Same deal with the socks: http://www.amazon.com/Kirkland-Signature-Outdoor-Trail-Merino/dp/B00LFLOUI6

I'd look at the 1.25qt Imusa and 2qt Open Country as lightweight and cheap pot options.

I was looking into this today. Both aukey and anker seem to be making fairly compact dual port quick charge adapters.

Also found a 10,000mAh battery from ravpower that has quick charge input. Anyone using these adapters or battery?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BBZJ31Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_qf61DbAFA46BD

What I used

Charger and Powerbank

https://www.amazon.com/Charge-FONKEN-Charger-Adapter-Compatible/dp/B01MA10GH9

Those things are light and fast

On my PCT thru this year I'm taking this combo:

[Anker Astro E1 6700 mAh] (https://www.amazon.com/Upgraded-Anker-Candy-Bar-High-Speed-Technology/dp/B06XS9RMWS/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519172880&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=Anker+Astro+E1+6600) : 4.4 ounces

This 2 Port Charger : 1.3 ounces

Also, the micro usb that comes with the Anker is right at .4 ounces on my scale and the iphone lightning cable is .7 ounces.

For overnight and maybe even 2 night trips, I can push a 3000 mAh battery with single recharge. Will look into the 6700 version. Is it this one?

CNOC Vecto 2L

Man, I was just researching this today. It really comes down to your shooting preference and what you actually need (or want) a camera to do.

I haven't come up with a perfect solution because what I want is as follows:

• 16 oz weight limit "wet" (the whole shebang including lens, battery, card, whatever)
  
  
• Viewfinder is highly desirable if not mandatory
  
  
• WIDE WIDE WIDE - 20mm equivalent or wider (rectilinear, not fisheye)
  
  
• Reasonably fast lens (f/2.8 or faster)
  
  
• Largest sensor possible in the package (APS-C would be nice)
  
  
• Reasonable battery life
  
  
• Preferably sub $1500
  
  As far as actual models, I've been eyeing the Fuji X100F (which fails wide), the Nikon DL18-50 (which fails viewfinder... and being an actual camera for sale), or maybe the Sony a6500 (which will probably end up failing weight and budget once a suitable lens is attached).
  
  Other than that, I dig the Ultra-Pod II instead of precariously trying to balance on rocks.

On the PCT I ate freeze dried refried beans and minute rice almost every night, bought from amazon and either shipped to myself, or to my family that packaged and sent to me on trail. Poptarts in the morning, cheap granola bars I buy in town, summer sausage and cheese for lunch. If I found Cliff bars for $1/bar I would buy them, but reluctantly.

I've tried dehydrating them but they don't really dehydrate well. Plus, these are cheap so I just use them.

Appears Amazon.ca has them: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B002BXRGQA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_qkGKzb2M3TT36

Totally out of the loop on conversion rates, but I suspect this isn't exactly a bargain.

these guys . They're wind pants, cut down on the cooling you get from wind, trap a little heat on your legs. Mildly water resistant.

Leaving on 8/23 out of happy isles for my JMT trip

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I will be bringing an Anker 6700 and a UL solar panel. I tested the panel at home when I got it and it would fully charge the Anker in a day of just sitting facing up (not angled at the sun). This was in the winter as well, I would expect in the Sierra to get good coverage and sun intensity. It weighs less than 3 oz. Its super cheap but the build quality is not great, you really have to be careful with the USB connector or it will be damaged (most of the bad reviews are either people who damaged the USB connector or people that dont understand how much power a 10w solar panel is supposed to output). When you plug in or unplug a usb you have to hold the connector still.

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The battery pack will charge my phone twice on its own. I dont plan on using it that much and I likely will only need another 1-2 charges to get me through the whole thing with airplane mode on, so if in non ideal testing conditions I got a full battery in a day, I think expecting a full battery over the course of the entire trip with it strapped to the top of my pack is reasonable. The only other piece of gear I need it for is my headlamp. I chose the 6700 because it is lighter than the Anker Powercore 5000. It does this by lacking quick charging, the input is less for charging the device from the wall, but the output to your device is the same. So if you plan to charge by outlet it is a terrible choice, but by charging via solar its perfect.

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y655DJD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XS9RMWS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I bought this and I'm not ashamed. Well, maybe a bit because it's girly light-purple... My reasoning is that it seems like America is the only country really repulsed by the idea, but it solves the cleanliness and any monkeybutt/smell issues, and weighs about the same as a half roll of TP. It's waterproof and reusable, can be sorta crushed, works in any weather (summer or winter), and is a one-time-cost... no resupply.

Still going through the list with a few options but I noticed the hate on the filter and I've recently been using the Versa Flow and I think mine weighed in around 1.6-7oz and its got a decent flow rate and being able to hook up directly to the [CNOC Dirty Bag] (https://www.amazon.com/Vecto-Water-Container-Bladder-backcountry/dp/B075NQT5KP) and bottles was a big plus from my original Platypus bladder/hose setup

There are a few reasons:

• They can be a pain in the ass to remove and put back in the badder pouch holder with a full backpack. Though there are solutions to that issue as well.
  
  
• I've had my badder leak on me during a hike. The point where the hose attaches to the bladder wasn't seated right and I lost most of my water. Of course that was an ID10T problem. I didn't know that until I got to my campsite that had no water access. That sucked.
  
  
• I pack all my fears which gets really heavy. One of my fears is a lack of water on a trip so I pack a huge water bladder. The story above didn't help me with that fear. Actually used to pack 2 full water bladders for a hike that followed a river. I'm trying to learn I don't need all of that AND I want to hike faster and with less weight. So trying the Smart Water bottle route.