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> but about people stepping into positions of power who have open hearts, know suffering, and want to make sure Everyone is taken care of...

Yes, I agree with you here, but can't it be anyone who posesses those qualities, regardless of their gender/sex/race? Why is it that you think "mostly women, and also feminine men, transgenders, and POC" are best qualified for that? Why only those groups/identities and not any others (white/masculine males/cis)? Certainly we need more people with open hearts, who know suffering, and want to make sure everyone is taken care of. I think it's a bit misguided to think that only those groups would be capable of being empathic, caring, kind people.

I can tell you're well-intentioned and good hearted, and I hope you don't take my disagreement as anything more than a difference in perspective, I don't mean to be contentious. I just see things very differently.

I would personally put the focus on specific attributes like "people with awareness" or "people with open hearts who know suffering" and drop the focus on traditional identity altogether. I know there are plenty of women, feminine men, transgenders and POC who have those qualities, but there are plenty who don't as well. I think it's important to get to the foundation of things when it comes to what we want - do we want "Transgenders and POC in power" or do we want "open hearted, kind, empathic people in power" ?

To be completely honest with you, I think a lot of these identity politics concepts have been pushed as a way of dividing us, not as any reasonable way forward.

Also, I don't know that "positions of power" is something worth keeping and carrying into the future. There is a place for everyone to step into their own inner power, and that's something that anyone and everyone can do. And there is a place for leaders, certainly, and being a good leader has its own kind of power to it.

In terms of "power structures" or "positions of power" though? I think those would be going away in a more evolved world. I think those things are part of the problem of why things are so messed up. "Power corrupts" as they say..... we would probably do better with a more decentralized world, with an entirely different way of making decisions at a large scale. If you're interested in hearing how that might work, I recommend the section in this book called Governance. Actually.... I recommend that entire book!

>(north node in cancer during the paradigm shift)

Interesting. My view is that things are always shifting. Paradigms are in constant flux. The energies all have their meaning, with periods of larger change here and there, but evolution is always occurring. I do see 2020 as being a time of greater change though, yes! and all of the 2020s... Maybe not all positive either. We may have to endure quite a lot of difficulty before certain things really begin to improve, but I do believe a golden age will come.

One of the biggest misconceptions about modern forms of astrology is that the process behind ascertaining the meanings of new planets is somehow scientific and observation based when there's actually very little historical evidence to suggest this. Usually things are attributed to these new bodies either on a "because-I-said-so" or a "this-was-happening-at-the-time-so-it-must-be-important" assumption. Neither of which have any real consistent logic behind it that would function is a meaningful system. Essentially, most attributions of new planets are cherry-picked and unfounded, but then subsequently adopted when someone rushes out some book about it. (Case in point; Eris, discovered in 2006 book about Eris published in 2012 )

We saw something similar happen at the discovery of the four main asteroids Ceres, Pallas, Juno, and Vesta. They were discovered almost one after another, but they were it for a good period of time. Astronomers and astrologers alike referred to them as planets, but afterwards more and more were discovered and it was clear that they were something, but they weren't planets and they mostly dropped off from astrology as there was no clear line of reasoning that would allow their inclusion while still excluding the other dozens of bodies that were and would continue to be found.

The idea of astronomical designation having no foundation on astrological thought (e.g. just because astronomers say something is or isn't a planet doesn't make it so) is so off base. Most modern astrologers will attempt to delve into the mythology of whatever planet to determine what it means (this is not the historical basis for planetary meaning, but a modern idea that popped up a while after the discovery of Neptune), this makes the name that astronomers designate the object of paramount importance to modern astrology which has literally nothing else to go on other than that name.

Astrologers tend to hold on to Pluto very dearly, even if its re-classification makes a lot of sense. This likely just comes from growing up learning it and attributing an unnecessary and (sometimes) unrealistic amount of power to it. Pluto was all the rage in the 70s and 80s when most psychological astrologers we know of today were starting to get their chops. Interestingly, even though Ceres, Pallas, Juno, and Vesta were considered planets for 49 years, you never really hear about them being very important today and astrologers of the past seemed much more content to let them go than we are today.

Honestly, I don't expect much to change as far as astrology goes in regards to this new planet, much the same way that the discoveries of Eris, Sedna, and whoever else out there hasn't made much of an impact. People may jibber-jabber about it and there may be web pages up and I'm sure one or two enterprising astrologers will attempt to make a quick buck off a book about it. However, as someone who has attended and presented at several national astrological conferences, I cannot recall anyone ever lecturing about this kind of topic (though sometimes Lilith manages to sneak in).

At this point in time we haven't even found it yet, we just strongly suspect it may be there, so that'll take some time at least. We'll see, though.

>my brother also has Mars conjunct Virgo Ascendant

It's funny how that works. You see a lot of heredity happening in astrological charts. My mom, paternal grandmother, and I all have Moon in Sag, maternal grandma had Moon conjunct Jupiter, and my kids have Moon in the 9th opposite Jupiter. There was an article years ago in The Mountain Astrologer about hereditary astrological signatures. It's pretty freaky.

>Another person mentioned strong Leo/sun influence

I haven't seen an association between Leo in women and gender-bending in practice. I mean, Madonna is a Leo and Marilyn Monroe had Leo rising--they're both pretty hyper-femme, not masculine at all. One thing strong Leo placements do is give a strong will, the opposite of a compliant nature, and in women some old-fashioned reptiles associate that with "masculinity." I don't.

I wish I could find chart info for the writer Norah Vincent. She's a tall (5'11" I think) lesbian who lived as a man for a year to find out what being a man in modern America was like, and wrote a great book about it: https://www.amazon.com/Self-Made-Man-Womans-Year-Disguised/dp/0143038702

You already have a lot of good comments but I need to add a book, because I only found it after 7 years of learning and it was one of those I wish I had in the very beginning! It is Llewellyn's Complete Book of Astrology: The Easy Way to Learn Astrology. It does a great job of combining the details with the big picture.

Writenseek

What is that you want to accomplish?

Different astrologer’s and different approaches get at using astrological tools in ways that can be pretty specific to your goals for studying astrology in the first place.

Here is a revolutionary beginners book:

https://www.amazon.com/Magical-Carousel-Commentaries-Zodiacal-Odyssey-ebook/dp/B077GVFP5L


All the best,

HVA

Here’s a great book:

https://www.amazon.com/Astronomy-Astrologers-John-Filbey/dp/0850303931

And celestia is a nice free app that allows you to explore space though there are many others

Don't be intimidated. What I did was elementary, just adding together factors. A book I have always liked, out-of-print but a little hardcover edition can easily be scored on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Astrology-Teach-Yourself-Jeff-Mayo/dp/0340055138/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

What I like is it that it's concise and has keywords that are almost universally applicable to charts.

I recommend checking out Bill Tierney's "All Around the Zodiac" to help you deepen your understanding of your Sun, Moon, and Ascendant placements.

Astro.com also has really amazing resources for beginners!

The husband is an Aries, and I'm a Scorp, but we both have Virgo risings, which goes a long way to us meeting somewhere in the middle. More info on your charts would help. If you're into figuring out chart stuff by yourself, I found this book really helpful.

There are essentially two ways. 1) do some soul searching and journeys yourself, or 2) have a shaman do a power animal retrieval for you.

If you're interested in doing it for yourself, I recommend reading this book by Michael Harner:

The Way of the Shaman

There are lots of articles online about MHD generators which originally got me into magneto hydrodynamics. There are textbooks available on Amazon about MHD in stars. One particularly is my favorites are those which cover MHD effects in Binary Star Pairs.

Look up these keywords to find data:
MHD
Solar
Stellar
Interstellar
Magnetosphere
Heliospheric
Plasma
Physics
Astrophysics

https://www.amazon.com/Solar-Stellar-Dynamos-Astrophysics-Astronomy/dp/3642320929/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=stellar+MHD&qid=1558934489&s=gateway&sr=8-1

https://www.amazon.com/Helioseismology-Asteroseismology-Connections-Laurent-Gizon/dp/0387894810/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?keywords=stellar+MHD&qid=1558934489&s=gateway&sr=8-4

I know they're dated and that is what my advisor is telling me...however they all make more sense to me than more modern scholars who seem ambivalent...specifically I used Cunningham, 1999 and Wulff, 1991 as guides to primary sources and I particularily have a draw

I primarily have done historical linguistics...I started this because of my passion for ANE languages

https://www.amazon.com/Hellenistic-Astrology-Study-Fate-Fortune/dp/0998588903

https://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Astrology-Theory-Practice-Traditional/dp/0473445395

http://theastrologypodcast.com/episodes/

There, you're covered

I've been reading Understanding the Planetary Myths by Lisa Tenzin-Dolma. She basically takes each planets and explains the actual myths behind them. Then she relates each to their archetype and how they are revealed in a natal chart.

It has helped me a lot with learning how the planets operate.

https://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Planetary-Myths-Lisa-Tenzin-Dolma/dp/0572030320

you can read some pages here: http://www.amazon.com/Skywatchers-Shamans-Kings-Astronomy-Archaeology/dp/0471329754#reader_0471329754

Reminds me of "Born on a Rotten Day" by Hazel Dixon-Cooper: https://www.amazon.com/Born-Rotten-Day-Hazel-Dixon-Cooper/dp/0743225627