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this is on my read list.

This Strange Idea of the Beautiful, François Jullien

>In This Strange Idea of the Beautiful, François Jullien explores what it means when we say something is beautiful. Bringing together ideas of beauty from both Eastern and Western philosophy, Jullien challenges the assumptions underlying our commonly agreed upon definition of what is beautiful and offers a new way of beholding art.

>Jullien argues that the Western concept of beauty was established by Greek philosophy and became consequently embedded within the very structure of European languages. And due to its relationship to language, this concept has determined ways of thinking about beauty that often go unnoticed or unchecked in discussions of Western aesthetics. Moreover, through globalization, Western ideals of beauty have even spread to cultures whose ancient traditions are based upon radically different aesthetic foundations; yet, these cultures have adopted such views without question and without recognizing the cultural assumptions they contain.

>Looking specifically at how Chinese texts have been translated into Western languages, Jullien reveals how the traditional Chinese refusal to isolate or abstract beauty is obscured in translation in order to make the works more understandable to Western readers. Creating an engaging dialogue between Chinese and Western ideas, Jullien reasseses the essence of beauty.


https://www.amazon.com/This-Strange-Idea-Beautiful-French/dp/0857420100/

side note, Thomas Henry Huxley's On Evolution and Ethics is considered to be the first modern books to be translated into Chinese, so there's that cheery tidbit.

I've noticed several people ITT wondering at why an African woman would make a film that seemingly offers no advantage to her (or even puts her and other African women at a disadvantage) dating-wise.

It's also possible this documentary may not have been made with the intention of promoting black men with asian women, but it happened anyway because quite a few of these men do end up with locals.

But this phenomenon being described - women of other groups recommending non-asian men to find asian women, definitely happens too.

If you look on Lily Petals World's videos (A Korean youtuber now married to an African man from Kenya), especially the ones about why she loves black men, you'll see even a few black american women in the comments encouraging her and saying how cute it is.

Maybe such women just have a very low mateguarding instinct; either they are simply used to seeing men dating out (I hear this is a common experience for African-American women) and accept it, or don't see it as a threat to themselves, like if they were also desired due to a racial fetish (As could be the case with the filmmaker).



A lot of people (not referring to you guys ofc) tend to assume that Africa is home to a monolithic entity of black people. Even some black americans think this way (usually afrocentrists) but this is most assuredly not the case. There is division and even tension amongst Africa's various nations, racial and ethnic groups.

The creator of this film is an East African Somali. Apparently East African women fetishise West African men (Particularly Nigerians) and vice versa. Who knows, she could even be seeing a West African man in China. This may be of help explaining why she made such a documentary.



Nigerian forum discussing dating Somalis. The general consensus seems to be that Somali men with Nigerian women is not as common for cultural reasons, yet the opposite happens frequently in places where the two populations intermingle (e.g. The US). One poster remarks that Somalis and other Horn Africans are like the "Asians of Africa" (because apparently their penises are tiny):

http://www.nairaland.com/1247834/nigerian-women-marry-somali



(From a Somali forum) "Lately Somali girls marry Black guys, but are not happy":

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=202415



Article about the growing trend of Nigerians dating East African women:

https://web.archive.org/web/20130427045735/http://vibeweekly.com/features/1030-that-nigerian-man-will-never-marry-you-a-warning-to-east-african-women.html



This also happens with women from neighbouring Ethiopia. Usually it's Ethiopian women who are praised for their lighter features:

http://www.nairaland.com/2429410/ethiopian-women-nigerian-men-pics

http://www.nairaland.com/1584523/nigerian-women-vs-ethiopian-women



A Nigerian man wrote this book which oddly focuses on demonising black american women while reocmmending black american men to date out:

https://www.amazon.com/Negro-Wars-Examination-Destroyer-Community/dp/1517655153/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1474643458&sr=8-1&keywords=Negro+Wars

*****

Some Somalis also have creation myths about Arab men coming to Somalia from the Gulf and starting local clans by intermarrying with Somali women.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habr_Awal

>Sheikh Isaaq Bin Ahmed was one of the Arabian scholars that crossed the sea from Arabia to the Horn of Africa to spread Islam around 12th to 13th century. He is said to have been descended from Prophet Mohammed's daughter Fatimah. Hence the Sheikh belonged to the Ashraf or Sada, titles given to the descendants of the prophet. He married two local women in Somalia that left him eight sons, one of them being Abdirahman (Awal). The descendants of those eight sons are the what is known as Isaaq clan today.

Very good story. I'm like you, I had the privilege of having a grandmother who was born in the late 1800s (actually, a great-grandmother). Anybody who grew up around those types of people are likely to have been positively influenced by them. This woman never had a car in her life, walked everywhere she went, did lots of hard work well in to her late 90s, like gardening all summer, lifting heavy stuff up stairs, etc.. Those types of people who grew up without electricity, air conditioning, soft beds, etc, are on a whole different level. Regardless of race.

I agree that you tend to develop sense of superiority compared to normal people, when you grew up hard, or succumbed to hard conditions at some point in life. To the point where you begin to see "hard work" as something that you actually need, like air or water. Also, what really inspires me about the older generations is how they didn't gorge themselves on food, in fact, they ate very little, and were surprisingly strong for their size, even in old age.


One guy who really inspires me is Hiroo Onoda, a Japanese soldier who lived in a jungle for almost 3 decades. I highly recommend reading his book about his experience. He was one of those "old guard" people who lived hard and long, and "did the impossible" as an everyday thing. Patience, persistence, stoicism... All attributes that have been totally lost in many countries, since WW2.

https://www.amazon.com/No-Surrender-My-Thirty-Year-War/dp/1557506639

I'm glad I took Spanish in HS, though I need to brush up on it. I feel a good command of verbs are the cornerstone to the latin languages, this book helped me a ton: https://www.amazon.com/Spanish-Verbs-CD-ROM-Audio-Verb/dp/0764197975

Poor Relations: The Making of a Eurasian Community in British India, 1773-1833

https://www.amazon.com/Poor-Relations-Eurasian-Community-1773-1833/dp/0700704256

"The sixty years between 1773 and 1833 determined British paramountcy in India. Those years were formative too for British Eurasians. By the 1820s Eurasians were an identifiable and vocal community of significant numbers particularly in the main Presidency towns. They were valuable to the administration of government although barred in the main from higher office. The ambition of their educated elite was to be accepted as British subjects, not to be treated as native Indians, an ambition which was finally rejected in the 1830s."

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TLDR: Don't be a bootlicker...

The Warriors and the Bankers

Associated interview

And they weren't really just German knights. Many were French, and from all over Europe. The Templars consolidated during the Crusades.

But I'm done wasting my time with your lazy rebuttals. You only shit on an American cable channel, which on the balance, has many pretty good shows, and admittedly some questionable ones. But what is duly noted here is that you readily come to the defense (although inadequately) of anything that challenges the safe notions of white patriarchy.

here are some links of Jenny Suzuki writing under her own name:

• note that some are NSFW *, particularly the tumblr links
  
  https://inferiorasian.com/
  
  http://inferiorasian.tumblr.com/
  
  https://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Submissive-East-Asian-Women/dp/1500763462
  
  http://ihateasianguys.tumblr.com/
  
  Writing under pseudonyms (like "Claire Liu", her "full Chinese woman" alter ego) (once you read the writing, it becomes obvious that it is likely the same writer):
  
  https://ihateasianmen.wordpress.com/
  
  https://www.amazon.com/Sexual-Submission-White-Power-Transformation/dp/1516922549
  
  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMG35Q0xa9sPSNsCdsi5OPw
  
  Ironically, "Jenny Suzuki", as a Japanese woman (albeit genetically only 1/4 Japanese, and 1/4 white and 1/2 Chinese) hates and looks down on Chinese people, including Chinese women.
  
  I'm sure there's more if you research the links in her articles.
  

It's hard for Asian/ hapa men to find Asian women to date. Don't you think it's appropriate to air our grievances? Black women have made it known for a long time they think Black men have a preference for White women.
https://www.amazon.com/Why-Black-Love-White-Women/dp/1416595422

There is a name for this. Actually there are quite a few names for this mental condition: internalized oppression, internalized white supremacy, colonial mentality, self loathing, etc. Internalized oppression is basically Stockholm syndrome with race added into it. The white man oppressed you so hard so brutal that you began to develop emotional attachment to him.


Just watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkpUyB2xgTM&t=72s


Check out this book if you have time. It's written by a clinical psychologist
https://www.amazon.com/Internalized-Oppression-Psychology-Marginalized-Groups/dp/0826199259

This. That one (of like the three hapa-specific books) When Half is Whole covered an incident very similar to this w/ an Okinawan Hapa talking to the author (also hapa), and he's just soooo mesmerized with coming to America, finding dad, and finally being free of being ostracized in Okinawa... and ofc, felt bad for him in it, but it was just too ironic that he didn't see his own grass-is-greener mentality when he's dreaming of finding a foreign soldier who abandoned him. His mom is way more on point with this.

Right, but put these super alpha, confident white guys in front of a busty blonde and watch them shrivel into their shell. No shit that they are 'confident'...since Asian women are effectively considered to have the agency, self-respect and dignity of a dog. Afterall, why wouldn't they be confident...when the view is that Asian women just don't say no...

I know she'll possibly disagree with a lot of what I said, but the thread that /u/cantrememberr linked to the yesterday is very relevant..."I think low self-esteem is the major reason why a lot of White guys go Asian. It is often said that you can judge a man by the woman on his arm. Asian wife usually means a White husband with low self-esteem."

Go ask COLUMBIA JOURNALISM REVIEW. You mean to tell me you're a better judge of the facts than them?

The facts of Tiananmen have been known for a long time.

The Myth of Tiananmen : Columbia Journalism Review

http://www.cjr.org/behind_the_news/the_myth_of_tiananmen.php?page=all

Here's more inconvenient facts, this sick gov has done this shit non stop. making up lies.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/a-timeline-of-cia-atrocities/5348804

http://www.amazon.com/Overthrow-Americas-Century-Regime-Change/dp/0805082409/

The Real War on Reality - The New York Times:
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/14/the-real-war-on-reality/?_r=1

 

The facts and history are unassailable. You have no leg to stand on. Don't reply. I will ignore you. I am sure you will pretend to have "won" but my sources speak for themselves.

As far as I know, this is correct. There is research to suggest that children who are exposed to pets, dirt, germs are healthier and less likely to have allergies. I read a book on this a few years ago, it's a fairly interesting topic - Good Germs, Bad Germs.
Though in the case of a train floor, completely agree - disgusting.

> Maybe tiger momming works okay for hapa daughters but not for hapa sons?

 

As the daughter of a malignant Tiger Mom, I can assure you that tiger momming is absolutely damaging and crushing. The effects last a lifetime. Remember, we occasionally see posts appearing on this sub by WMAF daughters who have severe issues stemming from their abusive mothers. Saying Hapa daughters are just fine is the equivalent of WM Hapa papas insisting that they know "loads of Hapa kids" who have no issues whatsoever. You can't tell what's really going on with anyone psychologically unless they reveal the details themselves.

Arguably, Tiger Moms either have narcissistic traits or the full blown Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Mental health professionals agree that daughters of narcissistic mothers have a particularly difficult life road to travel. There is an abundance of healing guides for daughters of narcissistic mothers--like this one--and comparatively few addressing the sons. Perhaps daughters of Tiger Moms are more likely to get professional help and/or seek out supportive network of friends?

 

> Females have intrinsic social value, so even if they have no social skills
> there is still desire for their attention, which would elevate their self esteem.

 

Attracting bottom-of-the-barrel white guys or white nationalists (the pattern is the same for HF as it is for AF) is not flattering! In my case, it only lowered my self-esteem.

The thing is the moment they see Tan's picture on the back of the book, they know that it was due to her insecurities of being ugly.

On another note, my school did not offer the book, but we did read this other one also written by a AF called Falling Leaves: https://www.amazon.com/Falling-Leaves-Unwanted-Chinese-Daughter/dp/0767903579

This one actually describes the author's Asian stepmother as being cruel.

> Cares more to expose racism in Asia than in America for this very reason, when he knows he won't be treated nearly as bad in Asia at the end of the day.

Are you Asian or a hapa? White worshiping racist Asians should be called out as well. He did a great job in that video exposing racism and white worship in Korea/Asia. I personally experienced more racism from Asians than in the West. "Asian racism is as large as white racism".

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~hist32/Hist33/chin%20Racist%20Love.pdf

Frank Chin is vilified in the current AAPI canon, despite being the first Asian American to get a play produced in the US. Though you can't even find any of his work for free (pirated) on the internet. They say his work (he wrote alot of short stories) are misogynistic, etc etc. This essay was written in the early 70's, so alot of the references might be lost on you, but the message is one that I think is very prevalent and unfortunately forgotten.

He also wrote a novel, he's a pretty funny writer, and it's not a very long read.
https://www.amazon.com/Donald-Duk-Frank-Chin/dp/0918273838
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Duk


This is more general, about colonialism, which pretains more to Malcolm X, "Who taught you to hate yourself" etc etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_and_Imperialism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orientalism_(book)

Basically outlines how european cultures were able to justify their exploitation of asian/african/carribean/etc etc cultures. Painting the other's culture as inferior, portraying the males as either savage barbarians or effeminate perverts, and the women as repressed, oppressed, and waiting for the liberation of the west.

Naturally, books are long, here's some articles, you might have read them before, I dunno.

http://nymag.com/news/features/asian-americans-2011-5/

Basically talks about the bamboo ceiling also asian american passivity.

http://www.east-west-dichotomy.com/the-violent-cult-of-america-and-why-asians-should-quit/

Here's a study about the colonialized mentality of asian females:

https://books.google.com/books?id=d_oOCgAAQBAJ&pg=PT596&lpg=PT596&dq=When+respondents+mimic+the+racialised+gender+stereotypes+perpetuated+in+the+larger+racist+society,+Asian+masculinity+is+constructed+as+the+opposite+of+white+masculinity+it+is+the+%E2%80%98other%E2%80%99+against+which+white+masculinity+is+defined+as&source=bl&ots=cLzhwDFq3h&sig=VlBFbprz9FJ5R_V8qO9a1njjg5k&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjX99zoxdHNAhXH34MKHb4EBhAQ6AEIIDAA#v=onepage&q=When%20respondents%20mimic%20the%20racialised%20gender%20stereotypes%20perpetuated%20in%20the%20larger%20racist%20society%2C%20Asian%20masculinity%20is%20constructed%20as%20the%20opposite%20of%20white%20masculinity%20it%20is%20the%20%E2%80%98other%E2%80%99%20against%20which%20white%20masculinity%20is%20defined%20as&f=false



Anyways, I wouldn't stick around here too long, it gets really depressing and will eat at you. It's very negative and toxic but think of /r/hapas as the malcolm x side of the coin on AAPI activism.