(Part 3) Top products from r/movies

Alright dude, here's some good books I've come up with for you:

First, Rebel Without a Crew and Either You're in or You're in the Way which are both books about young unknowns scraping together their resources and getting a movie produced and released. Robert Rodriguez (Rebel) is pretty famous, if you haven't heard of him he did the Mariachi Trilogy, Predators, Spy Kids, Machete, and a few other big ones. The Miller Brothers (Either You're in) pretty much just did their one movie, and it was only okay, but the book is a great read.

What They Don't Teach You in Film School is a great book about the production side of things

as is Make Your Movie

Shaking the Money Tree is a hugely popular book about fundraising for filmmaking

and The Digital Filmmaking Handbook is good for some modern production techniques (I don't remember how technical it gets though, a lot of it could be outdated but it's still a solid read)

The next two books aren't so much about production but just the way the industry works in general, and I highly recommend them-- they're really entertaining

Adventures in the Screen Trade and Which Lie Did I Tell? are both by William Goldman (Princess Bride, Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid) and have a lot of great, hilarious insight into the industry

Definitely check out your library before you pick any of these up though. Good luck!

I'm reading the book Starting Point which gives a lot of really amazing insight into how Ghibli is the success that it is. Miyazaki is very idealistic as to how films should be and as to the experience that people receive from them. He has such strong intuition, vision and work ethic that he's able to make his ideals a reality.

In the book Miyazaki talks about how all films, even if they're lightweight or more common and popular, should be "filled with a purity of emotion". He says (written in 1988) "There are few barriers to entry into these films - they will invite anyone in - but the barriers to exit must be high and purifying. Films must also not be produced out of idle nervousness or boredom, or be used to recognize, emphasize, or amplify true vulgarity. And in that context, I must say that I hate Disney's works. The barrier to both the entry and exit of Disney films is too low and too wide. To me, they show nothing but contempt for the audience."

He has similarly critical views about pretty much all anime as well. It makes me think that even though he respects John Lasseter, he probably doesn't care for most Pixar films either.

Its amazing how all there are all these things about him that just combine perfectly to allow him to make the movies he does. I guess that's the mark of a genius, only Miyazaki could've been capable of making those films. It'll be a sad day for film and animation when Miyazaki is gone.

There's a whole book written on the subject of the bad John Carter marketing... a totally fascinating read for anyone with an interest in Hollwood, marketing, fan efforts and more.

I read the book without having seen the movie, and then of course I just had to see it. But I was so disappointed I turned it off after around 20 minutes. Just my personal opinion, but it looked like a clichee-laden pulp tv show for boys (including characters, story, costumes, and even effects, albeit it was such an expensive movie), without anything that would tickle my interest. And I love spectacular & 'dumb' action movies, so it's not that.

I don't think the baby was necessarily planet-sized, I think it was just closer. ;-)


But apart from that, I felt exactly the same way about the movie when I first watched it (just about a week ago) and hence decided that the best way for me to fully understand the story (it's a actually very complex) is to read the book. I only read a part so far, but there really is much, much more to the story than the film itself gives - which is exactly what Kubrick intended, by the way. So, if you're out for a really good story, I recommend you by the book. It really is a good read.

The book this is based on, I [Heard You Paint Houses](I Heard You Paint Houses: Frank "The Irishman" Sheeran & Closing the Case on Jimmy Hoffa https://www.amazon.com/dp/1586422383/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_s2aGDbTFMJHGM), is an amazing book. I’m not a big biography type guy, but the author is excellent and really lets the guy (Frank Sheeran) tell his story. The author will add inserts about what the story is, either background info or corroborating info. It’s an excellent book

Yes. For more on this subject I suggest a great read called "John Carter & The God's of Hollywood" which goes in-depth on why the movie failed. Good book for movie lovers or anyone interested in the topic of movie analyzation.

Movies R Fun!: A Collection of Cinematic Classics for the Pre-(Film) School Cinephile (Lil' Inappropriate Books) https://www.amazon.com/dp/1452122334/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_ybCPybZF8[Link: Movies R Fun](https://www.amazon.com/dp/1452122334/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_ybCPybZF84NH2)

Got this as our baby shower present from friends that know what a movie buff I am. Loved it.

It now resides on my son's shelf next to Little Critter and Paddington.

Wow.. this really brings back memories!
I hope Im not too late, but here is a book that includes all of these images and more, plus amazing writeups. I cant tell you how many extras hours I hid in the bathroom reading this.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Illustrated-Star-Wars-Universe/dp/0553374842

There's a book all about how 1999 was the best year for movies that you might be interested in:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1501175386/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_xBzRDbHGNW6ZK

There was a novel released that had a plot similar to the ground war you describe. I haven't read it myself, but it has good reviews on amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0061058297?pc_redir=1411904577&robot_redir=1 sorry for the mobile link). My understanding is it follows the British officers who were onscreen in the Middle East for like two seconds in the morse code montage, and follows the humans storming a crashed city ship after bringing it down.

There's a lot of footage on youtube of witnesses like Lee Bowers giving their story. Very interesting. Here's a link to the book I'm talking about : JFK: The Book of the Film (Applause Screenplay) https://www.amazon.com/dp/1557831270/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_URBizbHD5W31E

He's also written a pair of non fiction books about screenwriting in Hollywood. Both are great reads.

Adventures in the Screen Trade: A Personal View of Hollywood and Screenwriting


Which Lie Did I Tell?: More Adventures in the Screen Trade

For anyone interested, this is the work of Josh Cooley, and this collection of illustrations is actually available for purchase in amazing Children's Book fashion.

If your curious, his book is an amazing read. Rebel Without a Crew

John Carter and the Gods of Hollywood: How the sci-fi classic flopped at the box office but continues to inspire fans and filmmakers
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0615682316/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_cBR4Db9E8EKDM

Very sad. He wrote a terrific book called Making Movies that offers production insight on tribulations, confusion, and excitement on ordinary days in the film industry. One of the best books on filmmaking out there.

There’s a new book about 1999 in movies called Best. Movie. Year. Ever. and the author has a very interesting take on how all these big, mostly new IP movies came out all around the same time and how that’s kind of shifted over to TV now. Really interesting read.

I am so god damn ready for this. A great book to if anyone is interested.

"I heard you Paint Houses"

How about Future Noir: The Making of Blade Runner?

Actually, although I'm not surprised, I would also nominate Rififi, on which John Huston's The Asphalt Jungle was supposedly based. Great double feature!

Has anyone at all read Myazaki's book starting point? You should. He elaborately explains his views on a very wide variety of topics in there, and it's a great read.

Spoiler: He does have the opinion that is pictured in the comic.

I recently read the Disaster Artist written by the guy plays best friend in the movie (the one Tommy's fiance is having an affair with). He evidentialy was friends with Tommy for a number of years both before and after the movie. Tommy comes across as a very sad person with a lot of personal issues.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Disaster-Artist-Inside-Greatest/dp/1451661193

Highly recommend the [Cabinet of Curiosities] (https://www.amazon.com/Guillermo-del-Toro-Cabinet-Curiosities/dp/0062082841/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1504235597&sr=8-1&keywords=Guillermo+del+Toro+Cabinet+of+Curiosities) book of his works if you're a fan of his. Shows quite a fair few photos of the manor along with his artwork.

He's got this freaky life size realistic wax figure of H.P Lovecraft just hanging out in the library, the manor must be nuts.

Well, the set is Amazon's Gold Box Deal of the Day, so if you were going to buy it, today would be the day to do it.

For that price, I'd probably say yeah, it's worth it.

Making Movies, by Sidney Lumet
(http://www.amazon.com/Making-Movies-Sidney-Lumet/dp/0679756604/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1394078386&sr=1-1&keywords=making+movies+sidney+lumet)

On Directing Film, by David Mamet
(http://www.amazon.com/Directing-Film-David-Mamet/dp/0140127224/ref=la_B000APXE7Q_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1394078307&sr=1-1)


Film Directing Shot by Shot, by Steven D. Katz
(http://www.amazon.com/Film-Directing-Shot-Visualizing-Productions/dp/0941188108/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1394078422&sr=1-1&keywords=film+direction+shot+by+shot)

They're the highest regarded movie making books. They're extremely practical without losing a sense of wonder or passion about movie making.

I have those! I'll be taking meticulous care of each disc 2!

Edit: Here they are!

Starting Point <= Link to Amazon

it's a fucking good book. for professionals. not fans.

Just FYI, there was a novel series of sequels to Willow, story by George Lucas and written by Chris Claremont (of XMen comics).

Future Noir: the making of Blade Runner is a fantastic guide

http://www.amazon.com/Future-Noir-Making-Blade-Runner/dp/0061053147

A lot of my friends are excited for Star Wars. I'm excited for this sequel as the possibilities are unlimited for humans with alien technology.

Especially if any ideas from the books that continued the movie's story are used.

I would think some of these will end up in this - I've got mine pre-ordered :)

Del Toro put this out in 2013. His sketches are phenomenal and it's interesting seeing the process that goes into his projects.

Did you ever read The Disaster Artist?

Sestero suggests he probably did escape all those things, but I can't remember specifics, and I don't think anyone but Tommy totally knows the truth anyway.

http://www.amazon.com/Independence-Day-War-Desert/dp/0061058297

this is the one I read, apparently there is another one as well.

>or instead grow up

Oh, see I could take you seriously if you were not so immature with this comment. Pot meet kettle... Kettle meet pot.

What are you... 14? Dont you have homework you should be doing instead of playing on Reddit?

>Movie tie in books don't exist

HAHAHA... I guess these are imaginary books then.

http://www.amazon.com/Independence-Day-Silent-Dean-Devlin/dp/0061052787/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1412717614&sr=8-1&keywords=silent+zone

http://www.amazon.com/Independence-Day-War-Desert/dp/0061058297/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1412717636&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=war+in+the+desert+stephen+molestad

Brian Raftery is writing on an entire book on how it's the best year ever for film.

https://www.amazon.com/Best-Movie-Year-Ever-Screen/dp/1501175386

> In 1999, Hollywood as we know it exploded: Fight Club. The Matrix. Office Space. Election. The Blair Witch Project. The Sixth Sense. Being John Malkovich. Star Wars: The Phantom Menace. American Beauty. The Virgin Suicides. Boys Don’t Cry. The Best Man. Three Kings. Magnolia. Those are just some of the landmark titles released in a dizzying movie year, one in which a group of daring filmmakers and performers pushed cinema to new limits—and took audiences along for the ride.

This is true. He even put out a contemporaneous book that does just that.

Stone's version of events may not be accurate, but he didn't construct the theories it presents out of whole cloth -- they already existed before he made the film.

There's a sequel, for what it's worth. The Driver survives in the book.

>I really hope Kubrick's other movies aren't too 'artsy' like this one. I'm not planning to see any other Kubrick movies in the near future, but when I decide to give it another go, which one should I watch?

I think one should point out that Kubrick's films are unique from each other. They have his signature, but are each a separate film experience from the other. They also all prompt discussion, they all aren't simply presented or explained out to the audience.

And with your comparison with Terrence Malick, at least one had a book to read on the subject beforehand.

Also, one has the internet to explain it all for you too.

It is very possibly the most heavily sourced film of all time. Yes, there is some license taken on the Garrison family and New Orleans events in order to make the film more "Hollywood," and I wish that weren't so.

But as far as the assassination itself, it is spot on.

Here's a book of source material and essays interlaced with the screenplay to show the factual basis for the events depicted:

https://www.amazon.com/JFK-Book-Film-Applause-Screenplay/dp/1557831270

Ask, and you shall receive. Amazon link inbound.

• Polish movie posters
  
  
• Sidney Lumet's "Making Movies"
  
  
• Mark Harris' "Pictures at a Revolution"
  
  
• Anything from the Criterion Collection
  
  
• A subscription to MUBI, which is sort of like curated Netflix

If you're wondering if The Driver survives, then it should be known that the sequel (book) just came out on April 3rd.
Driven by James Sallis

Trilogy for $150

IV for $80

V for $40

VI for $72

The VHSs weren't letterboxed. Source: I watched them.

For anyone who doesn't know, there is a trilogy of novels that comes after Willow.

https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Moon-Chronicles-War-Book/dp/0553572857

http://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Fellowship-Extended-Editions/dp/B007ZQAKHU/ref=tmm_blu_title_0?_encoding=UTF8&sr=&qid=

http://www.amazon.com/The-Joker-Death-Family-New/dp/1401242359

They're on sale for $28USD right now
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007ZQAKHU/ref=DVD_FB

https://www.amazon.com/Driven-James-Sallis/dp/1464200114

here is the sequel, it takes place years after the first

The author did to a book!
Movies R Fun

https://www.amazon.com/Heard-You-Paint-Houses-Irishman/dp/1586422383

http://www.amazon.com/2001-Odyssey-Arthur-C-Clarke/dp/0451457994/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1415376147&sr=8-3&keywords=2001+a+space+odyssey

Not that I want a sequel but there is a sequel to the book

With regards to the Coruscant concept work, I believe that the final showdown between Luke, Vader, and the Emperor was originally intended to take place on the Imperial Capital, hence all of the concept work for that planet (it wasn't named Coruscant until Timothy Zahn decided to give it a name for the Thrawn Trilogy).

Some of them were later used as inspiration in the EU novels. The black temple on the island, for example, became the Temple of Exar Kun on Yavin IV in the Jedi Academy Trilogy.

The Illustrated Star Wars Universe, by Kevin J. Anderson also provides some EU backstory to concept art that ended up not being used for anything in the movies.

No, there are special extended version dvds. They sell both versions. Here is the Theatrical Blu-ray. Here is the Extended Blu-ray (notice it says extended edition)

I think only once released both cuts on the same disc, but the norm is each has its own version.

Robert Rodriguez's Rebel Without a Crew.

Sorry, I keep forgetting I'm in r/movies and not r/theroom lol...the guy who played "O hai" Mark in The Room wrote a book about the experience of filming it and being friends with Tommy, which is what the Franco movie is based on. It's awesome and I highly recommend it! The Disaster Artist

To sum it up: The Room is 10/10 because it's batshit crazy, The Disaster Artist book is 10/10 because it's a great inside look at a batshit crazy movie made by a really bizarre but interesting guy, and I believe The Disaster Artist movie will be 10/10 based on those reasons.

The originals still exist and you can buy them on DVD...

A New Hope

The Empire Strikes Back

Return of the Jedi

I'll read it. If I may I suggest another reading on the same issue. It's called "John Carter and The Gods of Hollywood" and reports the incredible failure of that Disney movie.

That would be The Joker: Death of the Family

IV for $12

V for $14

VI for $8!

> The VHSs weren't letterboxed. Source: I watched them.

If they weren't letterboxed, you are missing nearly half of the picture. You do realize that letterboxing shows you MORE picture, right?

People here have mostly the right idea. Lots of times people look past the writers because so often the director/actors/producers use their influence to change the script. They say what needs to be re-written, they give suggestions, they put in their own lines and jokes, and might even add or remove major plot points. Depending on the fame of everyone involved, these can be anything from suggestions to requirements.

This type of stuff can work if the people doing them really know their stuff, but people should remember that writing is a craft, and there are professional writers for a reason. Not everyone can do it well, even if they're really good at other aspects of film, but it's one of those things that almost everyone thinks they can do.

In Hollywood, a lot of writing is adapting to and rolling with the demands you're issued, even if they're stupid. Unfortunately, often having to listen to the demands of others means writers are too easily looked over when the writing turns out well, and often blamed when the writing turns out poorly. Obviously there are tons of exceptions to this, though. Every film is its own case study, and ultimately what it comes down to is that films are collaborative efforts. Sometimes films burn through dozens of writers, other times the writing's bad and the director salvages it, and sometimes the actor threatens to leave the production if the ending where their character dies is kept in tact.

Highly recommend Adventures in the Screen Trade by William Goldman (Butch Cassidy, The Princess Bride, All the President's Men, etc) on the subject.

• So You Want To Be A Producer by Larry Turman. Producer of The Thing and a whole bunch of other stuff explains, in simple terms, what producers do to make movies happen and how. Lots of anecdotes, lots of info, nothing too salty.
  
  
• Adventures In The Screen Trade by William Goldman. Screenwriter of All The President's Men, Butch Cassidy and Princess Bride doing the exact same thing Larry Turman did, only 20 years earlier.
  
  
• You'll Never Eat Lunch In this Town Again by Julia Philips. Oscar-winning producer of Close Encounters, The Sting and others chooses to go out with a bang, burning every bridge she has, and putting every person she's ever had a fight with in an index. The polar opposite of Turman's Book.
  
  
• Future Noir: The Making of Blade Runner by Paul Sammon. A case study of one film, widely regarded as a classic, that was actually a train wreck from stem to stern. If you want to see how things come apart and then go back together again, this is the book.
  
  
• The Mailroom By David Rensin. How agencies work, by the people who built them. Anecdotes anecdotes anecdotes.
  
  That's a month's worth of reading, at least.

A lot of people don't know this but this actually got a book sequel, I've heard it's awful.

https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Moon-Chronicles-War-Book/dp/0553572857/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

Regarding the story, it's very interesting to me that all the news regarding the book I Heard You Paint Houses overlooks the fact that Frank Sheeran flat-out admits that he was the one who killed Jimmy Hoffa. They all say something like "allegedly was involved with the Hoffa disappearance." It's like they're afraid of getting sued if they say "Frank Sheeran, who confessed to the author and former prosecutor Charles Brandt that he killed Hoffa..."

Leading scholars and former investigators on the Hoffa disappearance state that "Sheeran's confession... solves the Hoffa mystery" and similar sentiments.

Reading the book though, I can see why people are skittish about touching on this story. It has some very dangerous accusations in it, and some of the things that are implied are flat-out blasphemy from the standpoint of United States law enforcement.

If you're only going to watch one version of it, I'd probably suggest the Final Cut, since it's reportedly the closest to what Scott wanted from the film to begin with, and it fixes some small mistakes.

If you're interested in watching more than one version over a period of a few days, I'd say start with the Theatrical Cut, then move on to the 1992 "Director's Cut", then watch the Final Cut. It'll give you a good idea on how the film evolved and let you form your own judgement on the changes.

If you want to really get "crazy", the 5-disc release also contains the Workprint version of the film first shown to test audiences, but I'd probably watch it last simply as a curiosity.

I also seriously suggest you read ["Future Noir: The Making of Blade Runner"] (https://www.amazon.com/Future-Noir-Making-Blade-Runner/dp/0061053147) to get some insight and backstory, and maybe do a little outside research on how the different cuts of the film evolved, and why.

The Illustrated Star Wars Universe is what you're looking for. It contains most of these images and turns them into stories based on reports of many planets in the Star Wars universe from Tatooine to Bespin, to the Forest Moon of Endor.

http://www.amazon.com/Illustrated-Star-Wars-Universe/dp/0553374842/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420735128&sr=8-1&keywords=illustrated+star+wars+universe