Reddit reviews Noico 80 mil 36 sqft car Sound deadening mat, Butyl Automotive Sound Deadener, Audio Noise Insulation and dampening

About 30 square feet of CLD (constrained layer dampener) is required for your whole car. You don't need much. ~25-30% coverage will be fine.


Dynamat's alright, but also check out the stuff from SoundDeadenerShowdown or Second Skin


The budget option has traditionally been Noico


Ideally, you'll also want to apply some Mass Loaded Vinyl to the doors and floor, as well as some Closed Cell Foam.

I live in a really old house. The only place to keep a rack is in the "basement" that was dug into the original crawl space in the 50's when they installed air conditioning. Unfortunately it is right below my bedroom, and the floor is just hardwood with some a basic subfloor.

I have had some really good success with this rack, these sound dampening mats, and a can of spray foam.

The fans push a lot of air though the rack, and the exhaust air temp gets up to 80f/26c. That's up around 8f/4c from the ambient temp down there.

I keep meaning to take pictures and post what I did, but things keep coming up.

Edit: Here you guys go https://imgur.com/gallery/EXZQi

well i just typed out a long repsonse, hit the up arrow and it all disappeared :(

just gonna be lazy here and post the products i used....it wasnt easy

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00URR4O5I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00URUIKAK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KX980CM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017OECD7W/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Noico is decent and a lot cheaper than some of the main brands. This thread has some other options.

Noico 80 mil 36 sqft car Sound deadening mat, Butyl Automotive Sound Deadener, Audio Noise Insulation and dampening https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00URUIKAK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_rIsqDb7K0VD63


I can't say it was a HUGE improvement, but noticable enough to justify the job.

Budget: Noico
Best: SDS
Second link is full of great info on how to properly sound deaden.

I bought this :

Noico 80 mil 36 sqft car Sound deadening mat, Butyl Automotive Sound Deadener, Audio Noise Insulation and dampening https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00URUIKAK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_eaFRCb9SKPTV6

I also bought a cheaper third party roller for the install.

That said I bought way too much. I only needed about three sheets for the spare tire well.

When the weather's nicer I'll probably work on deadening the rest of the car for general comfort and vibration reduction. I don't expect any additional improvements for drone, just road noise.

I think to cover the whole floor with sound deadener cost $130 it was 2 packages of Noico 80 mil from amazon Noico 80 mil 36 sqft car Sound deadening mat, butyl automotive Sound Deadener, audio Noise Insulation and dampening https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00URUIKAK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_sz2UzbFST9Z6E

I used this Noico kit with nice results. Cheaper than dynamat but essentially the same product. You'll need at least 20 sq ft if you're doing all four doors...

I would not use the foam squares as real flooring, it's too soft and can't handle the abuse.

Noico, this was more than we needed to do the entire roof, wheelwells, and walls of our tall transit. You can usually get it at NAPA too.

I added noico mat to the door panels. See my revie w on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/cr/B00URUIKAK/ref=mw_dp_cr

I ordered two boxes of this sound deadening material https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00URUIKAK

I then installed a custom fit vinyl mat instead of carpet (it's a work truck). Check out LMC or Classic Industries.

I have some left over and when I redo the doors I'll apply some on the interior door skin and probably the inside roof of the cab once I install a new headliner.

Yes absolutely!

Dash speakers: JLAudio C2-350 3.5 two ways.

Front Door speakers and rear deck speakers are a little weird, because I designed and built them myself, from parts I purchased from Parts Express. Essentially, they are a 6.5" woofer and 5/8" dome tweeter, with a 2nd order crossover at 3500 hz.

The speakers dramatically improved the sound of the stock Entune (which is a POS quite frankly). I do plan on installing an Alpine head unit at some point, but time and money are the limiting factor this year.

Sound deadening:

Noico 80mil on doors, floor board, and trunk.

Noico Green: in addition to the 80mil on the floor board, for additional thermal insulation. It works wonders too. It was a hot summer and my A/C was a lot more effective.

I do plan on doing the roof, plus add some acoustically absorbing materials to the headliner, but right now I just do not have the time.

As it stands the car is nearly 10db quieter than before at 70MPH. My wife has a Lexus ES 300h (exact same chassis as the Camry) and my Camry is about 1db quieter. With that said, the ES "sounds" quieter, because of Toyota using acoustically absorbing materials in the Lexus interiors. I know that sounds weird, but trust me, the ES is a lot more pleasant place to be. But I can travel in my Camry all day with little fatigue now. That wasn't true before, when it was like riding in a tin can.

if money is a concern, I'd get the get linked and start with the cabin/doors and go from there.

Do the inner & outer sheet metal of the doors.

From there you can figure out how much you have left (should be a good bit) and effectively spread it out from there.

After the cabin, you'd be aiming to put as big a chunk of the butyl rubber in the middle of spans of sheet metal, to keep them from resonating.

https://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com/

^ has some pricey kits, but digging through the site you can find some good explanations of the theory and what you're aiming for.

I forgot about this deal

^ less expensive way to get more of the damping sheets, and just go to town with it. Since you're doing insulation, you probably don't need the foam that comes with the raammat kit I got.

Thinsulate, used about 1.5 sheets You might want to get the longer roll rather than end up buying 2 shorter rolls like I did

Noico deadener mats

Here's what I got

80mm butyl/aluminum

157mm foam

What those heavy dampening materials do is lower the resonating frequency of the metal.

Instead of the side of your van going "boinnngggg" when you tap it with a knuckle, they start going "thump".

It seems like a false economy to me. You can buy Noico for something like $50 for 36 square feet. Oops, ok, $69: https://www.amazon.com/Noico-deadening-Automotive-Insulation-dampening/dp/B00URUIKAK/

The sound deadening materials are not about insulating against outside noise, they're primarily there to stop the van from ringing like a bell. The thermal insulation is also most of your noise insulation.

The wheel wells are especially big noise sources when you drive; those, I'd cover in sound deadening mats in their entirety, personally, and then also cover them in further insulation beyond that.

Below your price range -- Deaden the doors, put some speaker gasket material around the speakers to make a your doors act more like speaker boxes.. you will get more midbass and a fuller sound, most likely slightly louder as well.

This will cost you around $70

~60 - pack of Noico 80 sound deadening material on Amazon

~10 - speaker gasket tape from parts-express

There's just not much you can do for under $200. /u/ckeeler11's suggestion is spot on. If you want to keep costs down, just start with some of that and add more later. I just installed those Morels on my daily, and they're fantastic, really amazing for the money. If you're at all handy I would highly recommend finding a way to mount the tweeters rather than just using the coaxial version

I have a four post rack, and while the noise isn't the worst I've been playing with the idea of turning it into an enclosure to reduce the noise.

I have some spare plywood laying around. I was thinking of glamming it up with some paint/finish to use as the sides, top, and bottom. For noise, I would buy some sound deadening mats to line the inside with like they use for cars. Something like this.

I'm not sure how I would construct doors and install ventilation, yet. Those will probably be the more expensive pieces, too.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00URUIKAK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Price went up but it's still worth it

Just a little progress report.

I got it all in and wired up and I gotta say the memphis' sound fantastic. I got a little 6" basstube to stick behind the passenger seat to fill in the lower freqs as well. It's plenty for this application and has decent extension, starting to roll off at 30hz.

I also got a ton of sound deadener for cheap too which I plan to install after exams.

One last question tho. I am having difficulty flattening out the frequency response; having a 1-2dB dip at 220hz and 1kHz, and then a 1-2dB spike at around 100hz. The head unit has a 10 band eq but I am not having much luck flattening out the response. Any tips? You think a car audio shop would do something like that for me?

I lined my Anne pro with (80 mil butyl sheet)[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00URUIKAK/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1] to dampen any kind of vibrations inside the case. This changed keyboard sound to more deeper and quieter. Also added weight helped with keyboard sliding around to easy.

There are also other things that could be borrowed from automotive sound deadening :D

not OP. but i used this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00URUIKAK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

works pretty good.

Parts list:

Alpine MRV-500 2 ohm stable - $100-130 on ebay

Alpine 4 channel - $110

Fi Audio XV3 12" sub single 2 ohm - $210 plus shipping

Custom subwoofer box - $200

Incriminator component set - $130

Rockford dual amp 4awg wire it - $100

Noico sound deadener - $66

Closed cell foam deadener x2 - $20

Audiocontrol LOC - $150

Total without install: ~$1150

Install should be $250-500 depending on whether or not you have them do sound deadening for you. I've done sound deadening in my own Altima 2.5s and it really isn't that bad. There are plenty of tutorials for removing panels. If you've got questions, just ask me. The biggest rattle comes from the rear deck where the 6x9's are, and i've found that 2 layers of the butyl deadener and 1-2 layers of the closed cell foam will eliminate rattle.

>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00URUIKAK/ref=cm\_sw\_r\_cp\_apa\_i\_eaFRCb9SKPTV6

Man this seems tempting but wow that's expensive. Any DIY ideas that are cheaper? I'll look at the material type.

https://www.amazon.com/Noico-deadening-Automotive-Insulation-dampening/dp/B00URUIKAK


It is easy to install, you just need a trim removal tool and a couple screwdrivers to remove the door panel.

I'll answer most of your questions. The system you are building is actually made to be loud not SQ.

Crutchfield doesn't have your car listed yet, so I won't recommend a speaker unless you are into modifying your door to make them fit. Out of the two speakers you are looking at I would go with the GTO629 just because of the tweeter and the higher sensitivity for the same power.

It will be expensive and loud if you replace all four doors, which I don't recommend. You can get one set of the GTO629 for the front then the 6520 for the rear.

I use this Noico product on my doors and rear and I think it works fine for budget installs. You'll have plenty leftover for the trunk and trunk lid especially if you have a subwoofer back there.

Depending on the kind of music you listen to the speakers alone might be enough, but people really like bass in their cars so I would recommend a subwoofer. Those speakers will not be able to produce sub bass, so you'll be missing out. I use this Pioneer sub and it does a good job of handling sub bass while laying flat and you can put stuff on top of it.

Tie it all together with this NVX amp and you'll be set.

https://www.amazon.com/Noico-deadening-Automotive-Insulation-dampening/dp/B00URUIKAK

I installed myself. If you don't plan on installing an amp or have an aftermarket head unit you should look for speakers that have lower rms speaker range. Don't worry about the max rms unless running an amp to power them. I like Polk audio and alpine from my experience, but there are a lot of great speakers for a good price. Read reviews and see what type of sound you prefer. Some speakers have different material tweeters and they will sound bright or warm. I would suggest getting some sound deadening material and when you are installing the speakers do the doors and also in he trunk/hatch area.

Something like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Noico-deadening-automotive-Insulation-dampening/dp/B00URUIKAK

How does it perform compared to Noico?

Like this?
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https://www.amazon.com/Noico-deadening-automotive-Insulation-dampening/dp/B00URUIKAK
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How much did you need? Did you just put the one layer, or did you overlap them around curves and corners and such?
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Thanks

Its engine noise, a lot of low pitched noise. Road noise is not too much of an issue.

And I was under the impression that this is basically MLV, and thats why I was combining it with the foam. However now I see that is simply a base layer. The interior of my car is small and easily removable so I think I will just start with that and my current padding, and see how it goes from there.

I have used the product before and the lack of smell and adhesion time is superb. It also has good weight to it, so I feel confident using it.

One thing I’m doing on my 08 right now is sound proofing the cabin using these sound deadening mats to help with the loud cabin noise on the freeway.
LED headlights, tinted windows, and interior led strip lights are a good way to start off too.
I wouldn’t do any performance upgrades unless you can really work some magic.
Borla axleback gives it a nice low grumble if you’re looking for that, although it is around $500.
A great set of tires goes a long ways too and a strut bar if you’re gonna be taking sharp corners!

tC looks really nice after clay bar and wax:)