Reddit reviews Redragon K582 SURARA RGB LED Backlit Mechanical Gaming Keyboard with104 Keys-Linear and Quiet-Red Switches

Please see this thread. To reduce the PC cost, go with the GTX 1660 Ti graphics card referenced. Add this monitor. To reduce costs more, substitute this SSD for the Intel 660P. One option for an inexpensive mechanical keyboard with quiet keys is the Redragon K582.

Bought this full-size keyboard with Outemu Reds almost a month ago. Keys feel somewhat mushy compared to my Gateron Blacks and there is a "break-in" period (like how new shoes get molded to the shape of your feet over time) with the switches before they start to feel less mushy and more responsive but it's an okay keyboard for $63.

That looks like a Redragon keyboard, maybe a K582?
https://www.amazon.ca/Redragon-K582-Mechanical-Keyboard-Anti-ghosting/dp/B07KCRTN9Q/ref=sr_1_4?crid=MIY46ZX349BO&keywords=redragon+keyboard&qid=1572982682&s=electronics&sprefix=redragon+%2Celectronics%2C164&sr=1-4

Pretty much looking for the same thing, but I would like a wrist rest (I'm really accustomed to it by know). I had my eyes on this one but I don't know if I could find a rest to go along with it and I don't know if the one from my current logitech could transfer. https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07KCRTN9Q/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A2FK9EP27A6ZE6&psc=1


Any keyboard you could recommend on the top of your head?

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Keyboards continued:

Red switches or browns would be the best for a 10 year old as they take less finger pressure or actuation force to push down. Red switches would be quietest and would need the least finger pressure to push down.

Mechanical Keyboards usually run around 50-70 for a passable one.

Here is an pretty good entry level mechanical, plus it looks gamer which is cool for kids:

The Redragon Surara

Monitors and GPUS:

Basically 3 levels of monitor people actually care about. 1080p 60hz, 1080p 144hz, and 1440p 144hz. The goal of your graphics card, is to have GPU be able to put out the Frames Per Second you need to match hertz or hz of your monitor. Anything above that is pretty much wasted. The problem is high end games may need a more powerful GPU just to reach 144 FPS on say a 1080p 144hz monitor when playing on high end settings.

Another important point is response time. Response time is basically how fast the image on the screen changes. The closer your monitor gets to 1 millisecond or 1ms Response time the better, especially for fast paced games. Some monitor types like IPS or VA can only ever reach 4ms. This doesn't mean they are bad, it just means they are different.

Panel Type: TN, IPS, and VA.

TN is the cheapest and has the best response time. It also the worst colors and viewing angle. TN is pretty much the standard computer monitor right now, and is best for esports titles, and other fast action games like fortnite. TN is good enough for most.

VA: VA Panels have the slowest response times, but better contrast and blacks, and look really good in dark singleplayer games like DOOM. They also have poor viewing angles so usually have curved monitors.

IPS: IPS is the most advanced Monitor out there, and has the best colors and viewing angles, and it's response time is not great, but better then VA. I game on 1440 144hz IPS monitor and I can play fast action games fine. Note that IPS is usually most expensive.

Screen Size also matters, with most gamers aiming for 24 inches at 1080p and 27 inches at 1440. This is because your eyes have a vision cone, and these sizes are the best compromise between resolution and vision cone. at 1080 60fps, 21.5 is ok, but it does get a little hard to see small objects like players far off in fortnight.

A 1ms 1080p 60 FPS monitor can typically had for around $100-125.

Here is a 21.5 inch monitor for $100.

Here is a 24 inch monitor for $130

In general 1080p 60 FPS cards include the AMD RX570, RX580, RX590, and NVIDIA 1060 6GB and 1660. The best price to performance from this list is the AMD RX570 and 580.

The problem with 1080p 60 FPS is that it is on it's way out. New consoles will be more powerful, and many gamers are now aiming for 1080p 144hz. This is because this provides smoother gameplay especially during fast paced action scenes like in fortnite. 1080p 144hz monitors does give some small advantage especially in competitive gaming. The Problem here is cost. A 1080p 144hz monitor costs close to 200, some times 170 on sale. And 1440 144hz you are a looking at $400.

For 1080p 144hz gaming, an NVIDIA 1660ti is the bare minimum, other cards include the AMD Vega 56 and 64, the Nvidia 1070, 1070ti, 1080, 2060 and 2070.

For true 1440 144hz a 1080ti, 2080 or 2080ti are pretty much what can do it on high graphics settings. A 1070ti and Vega 64 can do it with settings turned down.

Finally Graphics settings matter, An RX580 can do 144FPS in fortnite, with the settings on low.

Here are a few tiered builds, with everything included, so no hidden costs. Note, there are ways to get Windows free. If you know a student, or you can run windows in trial mode. At some point you should buy it though, and not use trial mode forever. By using trial mode in windows, you can knock $100 off each build. Again, you can save money by going with a cheaper motherboard, like the excellent MSI Tomahawk, or very well priced MSI Gaming Plus MATX board but if you need wifi, you would still need to buy an adapter. Finally, you can save money by starting with a $20-30 Keyboard and Mouse combo, and buying better ones later.

The low Budget Build I included above with EVERYTHING:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor | $135.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | MSI - B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard | $136.98 @ Amazon
Memory | Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $66.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Western Digital - Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $59.99 @ Amazon
Case | Fractal Design - Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case | $50.54 @ Amazon
Power Supply | RIOTORO - ONYX 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | $64.99 @ Amazon
Operating System | Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $99.49 @ SuperBiiz
Monitor | Acer - KG251Q bmiix 24.5" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor | $129.99 @ Amazon
Keyboard | Redragon - K582 SURARA Wired Gaming Keyboard | $46.99 @ Amazon
Mouse | Logitech - G203 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse | $26.38 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $818.23
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-31 19:03 EDT-0400 |

Notes, the Integrated Graphics on a 2400g are not 1080 60FPS capable, but it is a start. IF YOU ADD A GPU LATER, YOU NEED PLUG THE MONITOR INTO THE GPU, NOT THE MOTHERBOARD WHEN YOU ADD IT.

There is an argument for buying DDR4-3200 RAM with this build, as it benefit the CPU's integrated graphics a bit. Up to you if $9 more is worth it.

The standard budget 1080p 60FPS build:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor | $145.78 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | MSI - B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard | $136.98 @ Amazon
Memory | Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $66.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Western Digital - Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $59.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | Sapphire - Radeon RX 580 8 GB PULSE Video Card | $184.99 @ Newegg
Case | NZXT - H500 ATX Mid Tower Case | $69.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply | RIOTORO - ONYX 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | $64.99 @ Amazon
Operating System | Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $99.49 @ SuperBiiz
Monitor | Acer - KG251Q bmiix 24.5" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor | $129.99 @ Amazon
Keyboard | Redragon - K582 SURARA Wired Gaming Keyboard | $46.99 @ Amazon
Mouse | Logitech - G203 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse | $26.38 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $1032.56
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-31 19:07 EDT-0400 |

This build uses the Ryzen 2600. The 2600 is considered one the best value CPUs on the market right now. However, with the new Ryzen chips coming in JULY. It might make sense to do a Ryzen 1600 which is weaker but pretty good still in gaming. These CPUs MUST use a graphics card. They cannot be ran without.

We also go with an RX 580 GPU. This is the best value 1080 60FPS card on the market.

Note that I added a better Case to this build.

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Mechanical-Keyboard-Keys-Linear-Quiet-Red/dp/B07KCRTN9Q/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=mechanical+keyboard+104+key+red&qid=1550604871&s=gateway&sr=8-4

https://www.amazon.com/Element-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Switch/dp/B07CLYNW78/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=mechanical+keyboard+104+key+red&qid=1550604929&s=gateway&sr=8-10

Heres a few to look at.

Yeah I get that. When I first started getting into mechs too, I was into the whole RGB craze was as well. But I grew up a bit and realized that minimalistic, cleaner, more mature setups are more my thing. I know you said you don't want any cheapo China mechs, but I'm just gonna leave this here:

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Mechanical-Keyboard-Keys-Linear-Quiet-Red/dp/B07KCRTN9Q/ref=sr_1_8?crid=39EBY355WYY91&keywords=redragon+keyboard&qid=1565546846&s=gateway&sprefix=redrag%2Caps%2C198&sr=8-8

It was my first mech before I upgraded to the (Corsair K70, which I absolutely hated, even though that thing cost 5 times as much and was supposed to be "better"), and honestly the typing experience was the same, if not better. There are other switch options out there too if you're not that fond of linear switches. Good luck finding a board.

The Redragon K582 is going to be a lightning deal tomorrow. It was on sale 2 weeks ago for $50. I might grab one to try if it's on sale.

https://www.amazon.ca/Redragon-Mechanical-Keyboard-Keys-Linear-Quiet-Red/dp/B07KCRTN9Q

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See this.

They company does make them but they seem few and far between in Canada

Here's an Amazon link with Red switches

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07KCRTN9Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_4-WWCbKDFR7MD


Edit: this is the 104 key version just to show company does make other key variants

Okay, since everyone here keeps recommending $100+ keyboards instead of an actual cheap mech, I'll link some stuff for you. Cheap made-in-China mechs give you a great price to performance ratio.

If you're looking for something affordable that's kinda GAMER-y, Redragon's not bad. Here's a full-size model with RGB lighting and linear red MX-type switches (typically made by Outemu or Gateron). As of posting this, it's on sale for $34.

Here's a similar, non-backlit keyboard with MX blue equivalent switches. less than $30 at the time of posting.

Many gamers prefer red switches because of their linear actuation. They also happen to be quieter than blue and brown.

A keyboard with RGB and generic red switches can be found for around $50:

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Mechanical-Keyboard-Keys-Linear-Quiet-Red/dp/B07KCRTN9Q/

If you want genuine Cherry MX Switches and a name brand keyboard, it will cost you more:

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Backlit-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B01CDYB8AG/

And if you want that, plus RGB, it will cost over $100.

Not sure what you mean by inexpensive, but this Redragon has Outemu Red switches, quiet linear. $46.99

This or the Redragon k 582 mechanical with the same red switches for about the same price?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KCRTN9Q/

The only red switches from Redragon that I've seen so far is this which is also pretty cheap.

https://www.amazon.ca/Redragon-Mechanical-Keyboard-Standard-Anti-ghosting/dp/B07KCRTN9Q/ref=sr_1_13?keywords=redragon&qid=1558026894&s=gateway&sr=8-13

I'm looking to get into Mechanical keyboards. I've been scouring the wiki and Amazon in the search of a fullsize keyboard for gaming, preferably one that is on the quiet side. I've come across the REDRAGON K582 SURARA and I was wondering what the more experienced people thought of a cheaper board like this with OUTEMU Red switches for an entry-level first experience keyboard.

Really depends on what feature set you're looking at.


Rule of thumb is that if you're seeing aggressive marketing from a company, their boards suck. Don't buy corsair, don't buy razor, don't buy Logitech. These can be worth your time if you get them seriously marked down but that rarely happens today.


If you just want a generic, entry level mechanical keyboard, Red Dragon is a stupidly good place to start. 49 bucks for a full feature keyboard with RGB LED's.


If you want the smaller form factor you have other choices too.


>But I don't care about LED's, I just want a keyboard that's durable!


Then you're buying the god father of the modern keyboard- either the IBM Model M, or it's family of virtual clones from Unicomp


>But I want to play video games like a pro and that's not even a mechanical keyboard!


Correct! The Model M is a membrane keyboard which limits it's ability to register repeated key strikes. It's also the best keyboard on the market for general use because of it's robust after market. Unicomp makes sure there's a healthy after market for replacement parts and use a grade of plastic that actually holds up well and doesn't yellow.


If you really need a full mechanical keyboard I'd still direct you back to the top. Buy a Red Dragon.

On mobile so hard to find on amazon app, but here it is a full size, rgb, red switch.
https://www.amazon.ca/Redragon-K582-Mechanical-Keyboard-Anti-ghosting/dp/B07KCRTN9Q/ red switches for $63
Drevo's Tyrfing V2 goes for $68 after a coupon though in TKL size and I think it comes in blue, red and brown. Literally searched in amazon "mechanical keyboard"