Best pc accessories according to redditors

We found 13,867 Reddit comments discussing the best pc accessories. We ranked the 2,218 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.

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Top Reddit comments about PC Accessories:

u/Atraeas · 60 pointsr/buildapcsales

Das keyboards get some flak for being overpriced, but at $60 this is a pretty good deal. Now that they have apparently sold out, see below for some alternatives.

EDIT: if you search for Das on /r/mechanicalkeyboards you'll find lots of people talking about how Das keyboards have declined in quality recently and some controversy about the software for one of their new models (not this KB) being Windows only. The keycaps Das uses are also said to be low quality. These issues aside, I personally think this is a good deal. If you are in the market for a full size mechanical keyboard, it's hard to find a better keyboard for the price. Some alternatives that are better but more expensive:

  • $80: iKBC CD108 w/ MX Clear Switches
  • $90 for full-size, $80 for tenkeyless: Cooler Master MasterKeys S
  • $40, but 60% layout not full-sized: Magicforce68

    EDIT 2: as /u/SolixTanaka pointed out below, the Magicforce keyboards have questionable quality control. It's probably not fair to say they are better than Das keyboards. Some users love them and have no problems, others find their board crapping out after a few months (or sooner). Buyer beware. I like them because they are a cheap way to try out a 60% layout if that's something that interests you but you're unsure if you'll like it.
u/s4ndm4nn15 · 37 pointsr/gaming

Looks like it's a kumara reddragon keyboard:

It's a cheap mechanical keyboard, but it works great for the cost. If you don't have a mechanical keyboard this is a great place to start. I have been using mine for about 6 months and it's awesome.

Edit: I was wrong. That is a hyperx keyboard. Probably the alloy fps pro.

u/w2tpmf · 31 pointsr/Games

And there are generic adapters all over the place, including $10 on Amazon. I've had zero issues with one.

u/Vidyogamasta · 21 pointsr/gaming

If it's about the controller, I'm sure there are adapters to USB for pretty much anything. SNES, NES, Playstation. Of course these are of varying quality since I just pulled the first thing I found, but it's not too hard to adapt the most nostalgic part of the hardware to work with modern equipment.

And with something like the NES/SNES classic, the rest of it is exactly like an emulator. No cartridges or anything, just a ROM library that you choose from. The UI for game selection is going to be marginally better than an emulator would be, but that's about it.

u/itsZiz · 20 pointsr/buildapc

I started with just a few things and then listed everything I see... sorry for the spam
(these are all things I have, feel free to ask any Q's)

- Mini Fridge -

- Cup -

- Air Cleaner -

- Good Chair Mat -

- Big Boy Ergo Chair -

- Camera Mount -

- Space Heater -

- LED Lights -

- Foot Rest -

- Wrist Rest -

- Underdesk Headphone hanger -

- Trash Can -

- Cat Bed -

- Keyboard -

- Keycaps -

- Mouse -

- Mouse Mat -

- Headphones -

- Dac/Amp -

- Speakers -

- Subwoofer -

- Mic -

- Mic Interface -

- Boom Arm -

- Web Cam Alternative -

- Lens -

- PC Cam Interface -

- Lights Boxes -

- Light Box Stands & Clamp -

- Light Bulbs -

u/AustinDontthink · 18 pointsr/snes

Just use an original SNES controller! Get one of these to convert it to USB. Been doing this for years, works amazingly!

u/KoloHickory · 18 pointsr/pcmasterrace

With leds on

Amazon link for the keyboard

Usually in the cheap range (<$40), it is hard to find browns. They pretty much all come with blues.

Other boards i like if you are in the market

Magicforce 68 Outemu browns

Redragon K552 Outemu blues

u/storm_bow · 17 pointsr/buildapc

this mouse for example was made with the help of esports players, yet imo it looks pretty "non gamey"

u/RouletteZoku · 15 pointsr/buildapcsales

Thanks for the post. I'm going to grab it to compare it to some other more expensive keyboards.

Also, I'm almost positive this is just the aukey branded version of the reddragon kumara keyboard. I'm assuming they all come from the same factory.

Kumara for reference

The only difference I can see is the keys on the kumara keyboard appear to be more sunken in, if that makes any sense.

u/Nubsly- · 15 pointsr/starcitizen

As many people have mentioned, Star Citizen is still an in-development title, and there are lots of bugs and will likely continue to be lots of bugs for quite a while.

That being said, there are lots of people who are OK with this and are able to enjoy themselves, some fall on the other end of the spectrum and get really frustrated so it's worth keeping in mind that there is a 14 day refund policy. If you or he decides you aren't satisfied with your purchase, you can submit for a refund at any time in that 14 day window.

If you're still with us and you want to go ahead and buy him something, here's four strong options for you to consider:

1) Buy the Mustang Alpha Starter Package for $45 -

2) Buy the Mustang Alpha Starter Package for $45 -

Then upgrade it to an Avenger Titan using this $20 CCU (Cross Chassis Upgrade is an item that you will find in your hangar on the website after purchase and can then apply it to the Mustang Alpha to convert it into an Avenger Titan) -

Most players in Star Citizen have owned at one point, or currently own an Avenger because it is incredibly versatile for its price allowing you to do both combat and hauling stuff while not being paper thin. It's also the one I'd recommend the most for him. He can always use the CCU system to upgrade his ship to something else later once he has a better idea of what he wants to do.

3) If he's likely to mainly do combat, then perhaps the Arrow would be a good choice $90 -

It will be noticeably more combat capable than the Avenger Titan, but it doesn't have any cargo space. It is a very popular ship right now for combat pilots.

4) If you really want to splurge, then get the Cutlass Black Package $115 -

The Cutlass Black is larger than all the other mentioned ships and it's the first real offering that gives you decent multi-crew features. It has an interior you can walk around in with a couple beds (beds are used for logging off if you're out in space instead of at a station), It has a good sized cargo bay that's great for traders. It has a copilot seat which can be used by a second person to help manage shields etc..

It also comes with a turret for some extra firepower. It has plenty of teeth, and you can't really go wrong with it.


If he really ends up liking the game, he should look into picking up some flight hardware (Joysticks etc..). I'd recommend either the t16000m FCS HOTAS $130

Or the dual t16000m setup $115

You can also just buy a single t16000m joystick for around $60 and then buy a second one later. They can be flipped to lefty pretty easily, so don't feel like you need to buy two right away.

In terms of bang for buck, there is no contest compared to these in the budget arena. I personally fly with two sticks, some people prefer the stick plus throttle.


In closing, my personal advice would be to buy him the Mustang Alpha ($45) and the CCU to the Avenger Titan ($20), then tell him you'll contribute X dollars towards some flight hardware (Joystick/throttle etc) or further ship CCU's once he knows what he wants.

Best of luck on your decision making!

u/pkehrer · 15 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

I have the version of this with no backlighting... but it sounds like you want that: Cooler Master Masterkeys Pro S

You’ll never get people to agree on here, but I really like this board. Cherry switches, solid heavy backplate, braided removable cable, simple clean aesthetic.

Edit: also, welcome!!!!

u/Vagrant_Charlatan · 15 pointsr/Vive

Agreed, ED and Onward are the only VR games I've passed 100 hours in. For those looking for a HOTAS and don't want to break the bank, I bought this one 2.5 years ago for $50... it's on prime for $39 now so there's no excuse! It's plug and play for most HOTAS supported games, like ED, as it's a popular one. The Throttle and Joystick do detatch, though there's a cord between them. This might convince you to upgrade for a bigger HOTAS, but it's more than adequate for my occasional Elite Dangerous sessions.

Edit: there's an upgraded version for a few bucks more. Credit to /u/stringentthot

u/Baryn · 14 pointsr/SteamController

Definitely don't wait. SC2 could be years away. It's on-sale right now, so go go go

u/Jediknightluke · 14 pointsr/wow

A MMO mouse will completely change the game for you. Back before my wife and I were married I would visit her on the weekends, and one weekend I left my naga over there and didn't play WoW for the whole week. You just get so accustomed to it.
Nagas are normally really expensive, but there are really good alternatives. This mouse is around 30 bucks on Amazon and has 5 stars.

I need to get me a gaming keyboard, I have never had one before so idk how well those would benefit me. I'm just using an old PS2 keyboard now.

edit- Been here almost 4 years and just got my first gold. Thank you so much! I love this community :)

u/bizbiz23 · 13 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Looks like it's $27 if you get it without a backlight. I just bought one:

u/Irideae · 13 pointsr/buildapcsales

No need to apologize. I certainly haven't owned every board out there, so the best I can do is take a look at reviews to feature set with you.

So first, let's decide some things.
Do you want a backlight? If so, does it need to be RGB?

What size board do you prefer? I would suggest going no lower than tenkeyless if you're using it at all for some professional work, only because it could temporarily slow down your work rate because some keys will be in different positions or missing entirely. This may take getting used to. If you're up for that, that's cool too. Full size boards have a numberpad, some are larger with "macro" keys. There are variations with fewer keys, that maybe don't have arrow keys etc. and are slightly smaller. Then there's tenkeyless, which has no numbpad, and then smaller variations often with no function keys or arrow keys, with their functions require key combos.

We've got a price range, and we're going for mechanical, but I'm wondering how much branding and brand names matter to you. There are some boards out there with big logos, and they can be ugly as sin, doesn't affect functionality, but cosmetics are worth considering on something you look at daily. Next, do you need a brand that's "famous?" It may be hard to find a RAZER, Corsair, CoolerMaster, or other big names in the industry under $40, depending on your required feature set.

Finally, that brings us to switch type. There's a lot of brands of switch style, and if I had to guess, you're probably gonna have trouble finding Cherry MX, the most iconic switch type, in this range. That said, some of the "copy" switches are nearly identical and have pretty solid build quality, differences only noticeable by the most sensitive of typists. So here's a quick break down of the most popular switch types:

Blue: Tactile Bump during actuation, can feel it and hear it(loudest switch, clicks on bump, clacks when the key "bottoms out" or is pressed all the way down)

Brown: Very light tactile bump(I don't really feel it if I've just been typing on my blue or Razer green switch board), makes a sound when bottoming out. This is considered the happy medium, somewhat silent, can be made very quiet with an accessory, still had tactile feedback.

Red: Silent, linear switches. Not whisper silent, but much quieter, no noise or tactile bump when the keypress is actuated. I really don't think you'll be able to snag a new board with these.

Black: Silent, almost exactly like reds, but require more force to press down, they're not too popular as people complain they make their fingers tired. However, I see them a lot under budget boards.

The Blue, Brown and Reds are the most common. There are more switches out there, and some brands use different colors to associate the style, but the styles are largely the same.

I'm gonna link(not affiliate links) some boards, just to show the styles and backlighting options off, these are mostly a bit out of your price range, but this should give you a general idea of what they look like, and how much extra things like RGB cost:

Pretty standard tenkeylessboard:

A compact board, I believe it's a 75% variation:

Tenkeyless RGB:

Fullsize board, the standard:

Now, these are mostly "cheap" brands, in that they're not ultra famous like RAZER, or Corsair, etc. But, these are some of the more highly rated boards. Of course, you absolutely do not have to buy from amazon either, and these are mostly out of the range, so please get back to me on the style and backlighting options you'd like. I think one of these "knock off" brands will be your best bet, particularly if you want backlighting. Other users are of course free to offer advice too.

Once you tell me, generally, the size, and switch type we're after, we can try to find some boards that are on sale, not just the stuff I quickly found that was relatively cheap and well reviewed. Sometimes you can get something that seems a decent price, for even less if you watch and wait. So that might be worth considering too.

Please let me know your preferences, and I hope my explanations were somewhat clear.

u/FB_PlayerB · 13 pointsr/dragonballfighterz

Link below to the fight pad I customized it myself!

Mayflash F300 Arcade Fight Stick Joystick for PS4 PS3 XBOX ONE XBOX 360 PC Switch NeoGeo mini

u/Kensik · 12 pointsr/oculus

Lone Echo is a great game but only 6-8 hours only other game on your list i have played is Elite Dangerous i have about 800 hours into it, but the game is not for everyone. Watch some youtube before you buy it it can be hard to get into but once you get flying and the controllers down its a lot of fun. If you get ED i suggest a HOTAS this one will work good.

u/Domikonis · 12 pointsr/Warthunder
u/mourning_lemon · 11 pointsr/EliteDangerous

I've always heard the thrustmaster T.16000m hotas is the best "cheap" hotas

I have one, and love it. As far as lateral/vertical thrusters are concerned, there is an analog stick for your left hand pointer finger on the throttle that works great. The stick itself has HALL Effect sensors (same sensors as the very pricey Warthog stick) and is very accurate. It's mostly plastic of course, but at that price point it's a given. The stick buttons (on the base) are kind of useless in VR, but since you aren't running E:D in VR it isn't an issue.

The only real downside is the throttle lubricant from the factory is pretty garbage. I spent a few minutes taking the base off of the bottom and putting some Nyogel 767a lubricant and it has been perfect since.

u/Valkyrient · 11 pointsr/starcitizen

If you're on a budget get the Thrustmaster T.1600M FCS HOTAS kit that comes with the TWCS throttle. Everything cheaper has crap sensors.

EDIT: For convenience:

u/Raistlen007 · 11 pointsr/hoggit

The Thrustmaster T-1600FM might be around your budget if you can get it.

I would suggest adding a little more and getting the Saitek X52

u/HoochCow · 11 pointsr/EliteDangerous

I had a similiar issue, my old stick was naturally a little loose and hyper sensitive, so just resting my hand on it caused it to input roll because it was loose enough that the idle weight of my tiny little hands was moving it. This resulted in having to make the deadzones WAY bigger than I wanted them to be.

If you're in the market for a new controller heres some options from least to most expensive as well as amazon links for buying them.

Xbox 360 Pad: $28

  • Pros: CHEAP, works, comfortable
  • Cons: Not enough buttons
  • I own one and have played Elite with it

    Steam Controller: $50

  • Pros: Cheapish, works, comfortable, plenty of buttons, overly customizable software options to ensure it just works with everything!
  • Cons: Touchpad in place of traditional D-Pad/Right Joystick can be janky in some games and some people just downright don't like this.
  • I own one and have played Elite with it.

    T-Flight HOTAS X: $50

  • Pros: Cheap, well made, works with PS4 if you're a PS4 commander
  • Cons: No mini analog stick.

    Xbox One Controller + Wireless PC Adapter: $63

  • Pros: Upgrade to the 360 version
  • Cons: Wireless, so batteries.

    Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS: $108

  • Pros: Cheap for a HOTAS, well made, mini analog stick on throttle.
  • Cons: Mini Analog stick is in a weird place (subjective)
  • I do not own this, but I would buy it if I needed another HOTAS

    Xbox One Elite Controller: $140

  • Pros: upgrade over the standard xbone controller
  • Cons: paddles can't be mapped to unique button presses but instead just can be set to emulate other buttons on the controller

    X-52: $150

  • Pros: Looks like the joystick and throttle in Elite.
  • Cons: No ministick on throttle.

    Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS: $449

  • Pros: All Metal Construction, very solid piece of hardware
  • Cons: No Ministick on throttle, No Twist Yaw on the stick, HOLY SHIT BALLS EXPENSIVE, your husband/wife might be angry with you for buying this if they aren't into this kinda thing.


    Okay with the all in one box stuff out of the way there are some good mix and match options from CH Products which I'll list below. My current set up is CH Fighterstick, CH Pro Throttle, CH Pro Pedals, + HTC Vive for headtracking (or ED Tracker for headtracking when I don't want VR)

    CH Flightstick: $75

  • Pros: Solid Build Quality, Ambidextrous
  • Cons: Ugly, not a lot of buttons, no twist yaw

    CH Combatstick: $94

  • Pros: Solid Build Quality, thumb button.
  • Cons: Ugly, no twist yaw

    CH Fighterstick: $116

  • Pros: Solid Build Quality, 4-way Hat thumb switch
  • Cons: Ugly, No twist Yaw
  • I own this and this is my primary stick for Elite

    CH Flight Sim Yoke: $120

  • Pros: Can double as a driving wheel!
  • Cons: No triggers, not a lot of buttons, some players have reported yokes don't work well for twitchy flight gameplay like combat.

    CH Pro Pedals: $121

  • Pros: Solid Build Quality, Very Responsive, doubles as gas & brake pedals for driving games!
  • Cons: Pedals are a bit close together, some male players have reported this is uncomfortable, the springs that recenter the pedals are really strong and take getting used to.
  • I own this and it is my primary yaw pedals.

    CH Pro Throttle: $123

  • Pros: Solid Build Quality, very responsive throttle, mini analog stick,
  • Cons: Throttles Physical Range is a bit short, no center indent or tension control, Kinda ugly, mini stick might require high deadzones.
  • I own this and it is my primary throttle

    CH Eclipse Yoke: $201

  • Pros: Good for Flying & Driving, plenty of buttons, and flappy paddles for yaw or gear shifting
  • Cons: No triggers, might not be ideal for combat.
  • I want one.

    Also note that the joysticks and throttles from the Thrustmaster FCS and Warthog can be bought separately making them worth considering as options here.

    FINALLY I will leave you with a word of warning. The Saitek X-55 and X-56 might look tempting, but they have shoddy build quality and will break on you. I used to have an X-55, and I've seen the inside of the X-56 and they both have the same problems. They are a time bomb, do not buy them. Also someone will more than likely eventually comment saying they own one of these devices and have had zero issues out of them, lucky them I hope they never have an issue, but Saitek is known for terrible Quality Control and with the exception of the X-52 buying a Saitek product is not worth the gamble even though Logitech now owns them and is known for great build quality, there are too many items from when Mad Catz owned them floating around in the wild.
u/The_Dude_Abides2000 · 11 pointsr/RetroPie

You can but kits that come with controllers and everything you need.

Or you get cool cases:

Pair it with a couple of these:

Or gut a dead system and buy this switch:

You can wire it up to any switch (including the NES power and reset and led) to shut it down via gpio.

I bought one of these so I could play with 2x original snes controllers:

I use ps3 controllers when I play old school metal gear.

u/shadowbyfear · 11 pointsr/gaming

no man get a wireless receiver for your Xbox controller for 8 dollars on amazon and all you have to do is connect it to your pc and use your wireless 360 controller and your good, best 8 dollars i've ever spent!

u/highphive · 11 pointsr/GameDeals

I use these for all my pc gaming and whatever lag there may be is too small to be at all distinguishable by me. Exact same functionality as wired as far as that's concerned. Keep in mind that in order to use them for PC you must purchase one of these

Edit: it's also worth noting you only need one usb dongle for up to 4 controllers. All is plug and play and works immediately.

u/fiwer · 10 pointsr/Games

SNES USB Adapter

Buy one of those and a used ORIGINAL SNES controller (very important, don't use 3rd party crap) in good condition. Costs probably $25 total and there is simply no better controller for pre-N64 consoles than the original SNES.

u/spoonwitz97 · 10 pointsr/hoggit

It's costs a little bit more than your budget, but I've heard nothing but good things about it.

u/BraveSirHenry · 10 pointsr/hoggit

I'm assuming you have a T.Flight HOTAS X, which is what I used to use. It's a good HOTAS for the simpler planes like the SU-25T, but you're going to have to get good at using modifiers, or make some concessions.

I'd highly recommend rebinding the slew controls for the TV to the 8 way you're using for trim, or create a modifier for it. DCS was not designed for large amounts of keyboard use, using the keyboard to move all your sensors is not advised.

"I feel like controls could be a bit simpler"

The SU-25 is really as simple as it gets, the aircraft is not fully modelled. The full fidelity modules have the whole cockpit modelled, so all the switches and stuff actually work. I don't want to sound like a "gate keeper", more people getting into DCS is always a good thing, but DCS isn't easy, you need to know what you're in for. It's going to take a lot of time, you're not going to be good in a week, or even a month. Practise practise practise.

You don't specifically need a really good HOTAS for DCS, but it really helps. As waffle also said, don't put your keyboard behind your screen if you need to use it. If you want a good HOTAS recommendation the T.16000M is very good, I own pretty much all the modules, and it's been perfect for all of them.

u/Metaldrake · 10 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Save yourself like $6 more and get a Tomoko 87, it's actually mechanical.

Or like $10 more and get a Redragon Kumara or magicforce 68.

u/raucon · 10 pointsr/VideoEditing

I love this mouse.. It takes some time to program, and a PC I believe. But I have every button linked to a hot key so I can zoom in and out, make an edit, add a transition, jump to the next clip, delete, move up or down a track, copy, paste, in, out and many more useful hot keys all in one hand. It's probably doubled my editing speed and I memorized all the buttons in about 2 days. Not a bad price either. Another popular mouse is the Razer Naga Chroma I think you can use a Mac to program that one.

u/nbcaffeine · 9 pointsr/patientgamers

could get something like this and use the original controller on the PC

u/Didactic_Tomato · 9 pointsr/starcitizen

HOTAS is great and fairly easy to learn, though I heard double joystick is better for control.

I use the Thrustmaster T-16000M HOTAS which I know is pretty popular.

I'm hoping SC will have a preset for this set up at some point, because it becomes way easier to tweak it from a default setup than start completely over (for me).

For reference I've only been using HOTAS for about a month and I'm already 10x better at flying than I was. Also my landing looks way better ;)

u/1sie · 9 pointsr/flightsim

I see someone already mention DCS, but since you mention something to ease in to the world of flight sims, i wouldn't recommend it, at least for now. DCS is as hardocore sim as it gets for civilians.

Then you have FSX, a good compromise between realism/accessibility, though it is kind of a dead game that has no further development.

Another alternative is Take on Helicopters, from Bohemia Interactive, the makers of ARMA.
Decent flight model, lots of mission content that actually puts the flying to use, and comes at a great price. Only downside is it needs a PC with a very good processor to run smoothly.

ARMA3, i suppose is also an alternative, it uses the same flight model, got tons of choppers and has better performance nowadays cause its always being optimized (still needs good CPU though). It´s a military sandbox with much more to do than just flying (infantry, all sorts of vehicles, it's huge) and the flight model has 2 versions, easy, and advances (taken from take on helicopters), the sceneries (maps) are gorgeous and very detailed and i truly enjoy flying in it.


As for controls; the [new thrustmaster HOTAS] ( came out recently, has wonderful reviews. If it´s anything like it's predecessor (which i own), it's unbeatable in price/quality ratio,

u/Dimingo · 9 pointsr/starcitizen

I'm loving my [Thrustmaster FCS HOTAS pack] ( (TWCS is the throttle, FCS is the combo)
Default bindings for the throttle aren't there (since it's brand new) but the stick that comes with it is among the most popular (Thrustmaster T16000M). Another advantage of this, if you decide to go dual stick, you already have an ambidextrous one.

If you're on a budget, the [Thrustmaster HOTAS X] ( isn't half bad, but it is decidedly entry level.

Edit: corrected TWCS to FCS and added Amazon links.

u/kschang · 9 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Amazon Deals

Corsair Strafe RGBs have all sold out. only the Strafe Red backlight versions are left available in Red, Brown, Blue, or Silent. starting at $82

CM Masterkey Series have SLIGHT discount, Masterkey Pro S RGB starts at $117 cheaper at Newegg

If you just need a simple cheap TKL, The Tomoko/Eastern Times TKL w/ Switchmaster Blue switches is down to $34 also available in 104 key, water resistant, no backlight

If you want brighter lights and floating key, Lingbao JiGuanShi has several mixed light versions for $35

Cheapest K70 RGB clone, i.e. the AZIO MGK1-RGB is down to $68

u/cutchyacokov · 9 pointsr/linux_gaming

> I'm no expert but I always thought prices paid for things at the national level depended on many political factors like taxes, trade deals, and the relative strength of a nation's currency?

Absolutely. That's why I expect to pay 5 - 20% more for an item in Canada, after exchange rate. However the Steam Controller was selling for ~$130 on, if I remember right.

edit: OK, it's down to just under $100 if you add in the import fees. When I was checking the price obsessively for months it was more like $130 but that was well over a year ago now, eventually I gave up and was waiting for it to come to Steam in Canada. I happened to check my Wishlist yesterday and it still said "Coming Soon!" :/

u/mako482 · 9 pointsr/wow

Highly recommend getting an "MMO mouse". You can try out a decent one cheap for about $35. Well worth it. I recommend this one for starters

u/Sub_Salac · 9 pointsr/buildapcsales

Found your dream mouse, the RED DRAGON PERDITION HIGH PRECISION PROGRAMMABLE gaming mouse with a whopping...

16 THOUSAND four HUNDRED DPI. At half the price of this junky, plain looking 3k dpi mouse. 60 Dollars for THAT?! Pardon our ignorance, but the RedDragon is half that price. 5 times the DPI. 20 times the buttons. SICK gaming aesthetic... RED LEDS?!?! RED!? That's like... so aggressive!

Bro.. we've done it. We've found the best mouse in the universe.

u/zanobi_gw2 · 9 pointsr/Guildwars2

I've used the Redragon M901 PERDITION for about a year and a half and it works well. It won't be the highest quality product, and the buttons can feel cramped if you have large hands. On the plus side it is only 35$ compared to the typical higher prices of better quality gaming mice.

u/CoolAsAPool · 9 pointsr/pcmasterrace

utechsmart venus, it's quite a nice mouse for the price and I've been happy with it so far. Very durable, it's been through a lot of use for almost a year now and looks like it did the day i got it.

u/Foshkey · 9 pointsr/ffxiv

Or any MMO mouse! Not here to bash Razer (Naga is a really nice mouse), but for a budget, you can easily find a decent MMO mouse for $30.

I use this one ($38 atm). Combined with modifier keys (I use Alt, Shift, and Alt-Shift), you have 48 actions readily available.

u/squid509 · 8 pointsr/flightsim

all depends on how much you want to spend

step 1 GOOD PC - too much to talk about

step 2 joystick/yoke
extreme 3d pro


[Logitech G Saitek PRO Flight Yoke System ](

Step 3 ruder - don't need this right away nice to have

hmm descent price combo

Logitech G PRO Flight Rudder Pedals

for your reference i use this


MFG Crosswind

track ir

u/odpixelsucksDICK · 8 pointsr/flightsim

Depends on your budget.

I'd recommend this if your budget allows for it.

If not, the Logitech 3D Pro is the best stick for your money imo.

I'd recommend picking up pedals especially if you're into general aviation flying but definitely get a joystick as your first purchase. As far as yokes go, the lower end ones are generally not worth it and the next options are in the $400-500+ USD range. Some users are happy with their CH/Saitek yokes but I didn't have a great experience with them.

u/kinggimped · 8 pointsr/EliteDangerous

Unless you're rich and just happy to splurge on whatever's the top of the line, just get a cheap one to start with. Most people start with the Thrustmaster T.Flight HOTAS X, which is cheap and plasticky but it has all the buttons you need and works absolutely fine. I have 1000+ hours in E:D and have never felt the need to upgrade from this HOTAS, though I'll probably get something better when it eventually breaks.

If you find you really like the HOTAS experience and feel like you want to dump some money into it, then you can get something like the Thrustmaster T 1600M or the Logitech X52.

And if you really like it and want to go higher end, there are a few options for that. Just be warned that they start to get real expensive.

u/Conura · 8 pointsr/flightsim

Take a look at the 16000m FCS:

Personally I think it's a much better option than the X52, both in terms of build quality and precision.

u/InfectedP0tato · 8 pointsr/shittyrobots
u/madsam_ · 8 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Redragon K552 KUMARA LED Backlit Mechanical Gaming Keyboard (Black)

u/BigGayDan · 8 pointsr/SteamController

I'd recommend buying it from Amazon instead, buying one with a case right now and it's only $65. Might take a little longer but there's no way I'm spending nearly $100 on a controller that I'll use like once a month.

u/lovetape · 8 pointsr/buildapcsales

Steam Link is $19.99.

Both also available on Amazon for the same price:

u/voneahhh · 8 pointsr/NintendoSwitch

Or something like a ~$50 wireless controller which is frequently on sale for $35 with rumble, gyro controls, and haptic feedback with great battery life or a [~$45 wireless controller with rumble, gyro controls, headphone jack and good build quality] (

I'm sure people wouldn't mind pretty much just losing the NFC chip for >$20 in savings. There is a middle ground between the two extremes your argument hinges on.

u/AMY_bot · 8 pointsr/buildapcsales

For less messy amazon links you can extract the part after "/dp/" in

and make it:

Or via smile link:


Plz send any recommendations via PM

u/ItCanAlwaysGetWorse · 8 pointsr/wow

just to give you an idea or some inspiration, this is my setup:

I play Beast Master, a ranged DD
W - forward
S - backward
A - strafe left (not turn)
D - strafe right (not turn)
note: I dont have keybindings for turning around, I use the mouse for that by holding right mouse button

1 - one of the main abilities I use all the time
2 - main ability for AoE
3 - 6 utility abilities like stun, slow, misdirection etc. - situational abilities that I dont need all the time.

Q - one of the main abilities
E - one of the main abilities
I also bound the following keys:

All keybinds except C also have a Shift and/or Ctrl modifier.
My essential keybinds are Q, E, R, 1 and 2 by themselves and also with Shift held down, that's 10 keybinds.

to be fair, I also bought a cheapo 35€ MMO-mouse which has 12 thumb buttons, those are mostly utility skills or things like pre-pot, health potion/healthstone, keybind for mounting up etc. BUT I also have 1 important ability on there: my interrupt.

I also use OPie to further decrease the amount of keybinds I need for all the things I wanted to access relatively fast. On my OPie rings I also just use stuff I dont need in the middle of the combat, because using OPie in combat takes too long.

Now your question regarding movement: While holding W with my middle finger, I can easily press 1, 2 and Q with my ring finger. 3-6, which I usually dont need while moving forward, can still be accessed with the index finger easily enough.
While holding D with my index finger, I use my middle finger to press Q, E, R and 1-4.
While holding A with my ring finger, I use my middle finger to press Q, 1 and 2. I use my index finger for E, R, F and 3-6.
You will need to twist your wrist to reach certain keybinds while pressing others simultaneously, but this is really not a problem.

Also might be worth noting: F is also a utility keybind for me, not part of my damage rotation. F is my movement skill (disengage for Hunters, Blink for mages etc.) while Shift + F is my self-heal. C is just my move pet command.

u/mattyod93 · 8 pointsr/ffxiv

Honestly i used to do stuff like this all the time. But it still felt way too busy for me. So i bought a mouse with 12 buttons on the side as i play a lot of mmos. It's honestly so nice i only use my keyboard for WASD, CTRL, ALT and Shift. Everything else is bound to my mouse. I could never go back now.

If you're looking to get one i recommend (like many) the Razer Naga. Or if you're on a budget (Like me) I found this one on amazon:

It does the job and I've no complaints with it. It even comes with it's own program so you can change the macros on it.

Here is my UI in game:

u/mapkin · 8 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Wireless adapter for PC.


u/20th_LVL_Wizard · 8 pointsr/Games

I've kept my controller budget under $150 via garage sales and Amazon deals.

$15 360 reciever

$20 Dolphin bar

$12 n64 Controllers. These don't have great cable lengths and the analog sticks don't work perfectly, but mapping n64 buttons to a 360 controller was a nightmare. These were worth the hassle and price.

u/Xeratet · 7 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

A few decent options on Amazon right now:

AUKEY KM-G9 - $26.99

Redragon K552-N - $26.99

Redragon K552 Red LED - $29.99

TECWARE Phantom - $39.99

E-Element Z-77 RGB - $39.99

u/zyxxiforr · 7 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

> and Kailh has been manufacturing a low profile switch, but I have yet to see one in a board

Isn't it this one?

u/byuu · 7 pointsr/emulation

Possibly acceptable, also didn't see it. I don't want to shill a product, but I'm currently using this keyboard (not an affiliate link.) The low-profile switches are the important detail: full profile switches are fatiguing to me.

u/ARCFXX · 7 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Magicforce 68 can be had for around $40. Redragon K551/K552 are decent larger options, for as low as $27 with no backlighting.

u/Ramp_Rat · 7 pointsr/redorchestra

sure, I'll copy/paste here:

The higher-end ones tend to be what's called a H.O.T.A.S (Hands On Throttle And Stick). essentially this is a packaged deal with a joystick and throttle quadrant, and is useful for not having to take your eyes (or hands) off the throttle and stick while flying. Some of these can be expensive like the Thrustmaster Warthog, considered the high end of the sticks. The issue with this as well, is it's modeled off a A-10 Warthog's inputs, so you'll also need to get rudder pedals as well since there is no Z-axis twist on the stick.
For more budget options, I have heard really great things about the T-16000 M. You can also buy the stick and throttle separately if you dont have the cash for both right now.

Another company is VKB, a Russian company but uses magnetic "MARS" sensors. I actually use their Black Mamba and love it, however the item has since been discontinued and the company itself is hard to get hold of. They currently have affordable sticks modeled on the German KG12 - flight stick used in BF109's and FW 190's (although no throttle quadrant with it). Available on Amazon its called Gladiator

Saitek makes several sticks, however they're in a transitioning period. They were just bought-out by Logitech and some people have complained about quality issues with their newer sticks and lack of customer support, so I'd only recommend them if you can get a great deal on a stick on sale, or possibly a used one for cheap. Their models are the X52 Pro, X-55, and X-65. I had the 52 Pro and never had any issues, but its one of those buy beware moments with them right now.

And then there's really affordable sticks that work fine too, such as the logitech extreme 3d pro and Thrustmaster T-Flight X. These are reliable sticks that lack some of the fancy things like buttons and dials for radiator management for example. I know guys who fly using these and love it.

Another thing that is highly recommended to get, but is not required to play the game, is called a Track IR. If you watch in my video, I'm swiveling my head back and forth to check my 6, and make sure theres no enemy aircraft diving on us. I'm not using the mouse, or any input to look around, rather I have a clip on my headset that uses IR sensors to turn my head in game without having to take my hands off the HOTAS. Here's a video of how it works. Again, not necessary to buy, but one of those things to hope to get down the road. There are free alternatives called Freetrack which uses a webcam, I think. I havent messed with that but I know a few guys who do use it and are happy with it.

I think thats a fairly decent summary. Feel free to PM with any questions, or check out our group's forums if you'd like to do some more research

You can also check out r/hotas which is a great community dealing with news, special offers, user reviews, etc


u/Elrox · 7 pointsr/oculus

HOTAS if you plan to fly

Wheel if you plan to drive

Gun Stock if you plan to play online FPS

SkullCap if you sweat a lot, it will keep your hair from making your headset wet

Mamut grips for comfort

u/Oddzball · 7 pointsr/starcitizen

Wait for the new HOTAS from Thrustmaster that is actually DESIGNED for space sims. Seriously looks awesome. It will be out in like 2 weeks, and you can pre-order it now.

u/olbaze · 7 pointsr/fightsticks

Qanba Drone if you're on PS4 and do not care about artwork swapping. Venom Arcade Stick if you're on PS4 and want artwork swapping. Mayflash F300 if you're on Xbox or Switch and do not care about artwork swapping. Mayflash F500 if you're on Xbox or Switch and want artwork swapping. Qanba Carbon if you're PC-only and care about artwork swapping.

All of these sticks can be easily modified with higher quality levers or buttons at a later date. Personally, I went with the Venom Arcade Stick, upgraded it with Sanwa parts, used it for a few years and then switched to a full custom.

u/Etalus · 7 pointsr/RivalsOfAether

It sounds like you are looking for a fightstick.

u/JuegaDas · 7 pointsr/battlestations
  1. ssd
  2. Hard drive
  3. Graphics card
  4. CPU
  5. Desk
  6. Monitor 1
  7. Monitor 2
  8. Desk mount
  9. Speakers, they sound fantastic!
  10. Speakers mounting brackets
  11. External audio card for headphones:
  12. Headphones, If you're into the bass this are the best.
  13. Headphone stand
  14. Phone stand
  15. Mic
  16. mic mount
  17. Shock mount
  18. pop filter
  19. Camera
  21. Keyboard
  22. Mouse pad
  23. Ps4 stand
  24. XOne stand
  25. Plant
  26. Chair
  27. battle station more angles
u/DESTROYER_OF_RECTUMS · 7 pointsr/Steam

Im in NZ and I brought it from Amazon here a couple weeks after the US release.

Hope this helps OP.

u/maybeathrowawaybot · 7 pointsr/pcgaming

Link to the actual Amazon page and not OP's shitty site:

u/F1r3f0x0014 · 7 pointsr/chile

Amazon ( $49.99 + $33.10 (shipping & import fees) ~ 54000 CLP

Todos vienen con el dongle, la estacion y el cable. En mi opinion el control vale cada peso, sobre todo comparado a los controles "tontos" de la competencia.

u/Defacter · 7 pointsr/Games

The Steam Controller is $20 off on Amazon right now. Fantastic time to pick it up.

u/HashWorks · 7 pointsr/de
u/Davedamon · 7 pointsr/EliteOne

The T.Flight Hotas 4 (PS4/PC version) is $70 on Amazon. I'd expect the Hotas One to be a similar price

u/Dylan_197 · 7 pointsr/PS4

If you can afford it I wholly recommend the new Hotas ThrustMaster. Plug and play for ps4. small driver download for pc.

u/jschild · 7 pointsr/Games

Razor Naga didn't even last a year. Very poor build quality.

I've had a Redragon Perdition mouse for past couple years and it's been great and it was half the price of the Naga.

EDIT: One thing nice about the side buttons is that they are slanted like a very shallow V, so you know exactly which buttons you are touching. Only thing you have to keep track of, and it's very easy to, is which set of V's you are in (1-6 first set of V, 7-12 for the second set).

u/barefootbandit8 · 7 pointsr/buildapc

You should check out /r/mechanicalkeyboards

I know they won't recommend the Razer because they don't use Cherry switches but Kailh stitches which are lower quality.

Edit: Suggestion: CM Storm QuickFire TK is $84

u/MrMusAddict · 7 pointsr/buildapc

You can get a 360 wireless controller with a PC dongle, but last time I checked it's like $150 for both.

Wow, either the prices went down considerably, or I'm crazy. Looks like the 360 dongle is now only like $10.

u/5k3k73k · 7 pointsr/gaming

Raspberry Pi 2: $35

SNES controller adapter: $11

32 GB MicroSD card: $10

Power Supply: $10

Case: $7

RetroPie: $0

The ability to play your favorite games forever: Priceless

u/Nahuduok · 6 pointsr/pcmasterrace
u/Medicine-Man · 6 pointsr/battlestations

So I hate to have you start a new addiction ;) but the ladies and lads over at /r/mechanicalkeyboards have a plethora of different keyboards varying in price. The caps were gifted to me and originally black. This is a MagicForce 68 that I purchased used from a friend so I am not 100% on the MSRP this has MX Black on it.

Keycaps: currently have a sale on Massdrop for them I saw. My friends got it for me during Christmas at the original $100 price point this is Almost 50 bucks off!

Keyboard:The Black on is the pricer of the two probably be cause of the switches.

Looks like the White version is on Sale also!

u/MaskedCorndog · 6 pointsr/PUBATTLEGROUNDS

I had that keyboard as well. It got the job done but not much else. I replaced it with the one below. Great keyboard for the price.

See you out there!!

Steam name is "Masked Corndog" if you need someone to play with

Redragon K552 RED LED Backlit...

u/Lightparticle · 6 pointsr/pcmasterrace
u/SkuLL00700 · 6 pointsr/osugame

75$ right now if you prefer red switches, also you should specify where you live so we can count in the shipping.

u/Dropouter · 6 pointsr/battlestations

Na, I wish it was! I wanted to try mechanical keyboards and now i'm hooked forever. It's a Kumara Redragon K552, really nice beginner mech with Cherry MX blue clones. I have the Tai-Hao Double shot ABS shine thru white caps from Massdrop on it.

u/Jaymoney55 · 6 pointsr/pcmasterrace
u/aristTV · 6 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

What is in this picture?

Topre Realforce RGB bought from Amazon Prime.

EnjoyPBT white caps w/ black English and red Hangul lettering bought from AliExpress.

Colored PBT modifier keys from Amazon Prime.

Logitech G PRO mouse bought from Amazon Prime.

Steelseries QCK+ mousepad from Steelseries.

ASUS VG248QE 144hz monitor from Amazon Prime.

u/GaiaNyx · 6 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Sounds like you're very new to the sub. The logitech products do their job, and personally their support has been amazing. But there are a few negatives that breaks the deal for the community in general here.

  1. Proprietary switches that aren't compatible to anything in the market

    The community generates insane amount of custom keycaps and switches and boards, but what Logitech offers does not fit anything that was in place already in our community.

  2. Low quality keycaps and lack of choice

    If the keycaps and switches are proprietary, the options should also be solid. The keycaps are very simply made to shine light through for the RGB, and there aren't high quality options.

  3. Switches are supposed to be tactile but they're barely tactile.
    It's up to the people who use them, but large chunk of the community do not like them, and that's after comparing numerous other switches from cherry, gateron, Kailh and etc.

    There are many other options out there that cost just as much or even less that are higher quality, like CM Masterkeys if you're looking for a full sized one.
u/thoomfish · 6 pointsr/SteamController

Alternately, use this link which supports charity (via Amazon Smile) instead of lining OP's pockets by clicking his referral link.

u/amacgregor · 6 pointsr/battlestations

Well this blew up!


u/Tovora · 6 pointsr/pcgaming

Amazon ships here.

u/simon5858 · 6 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Great idea to have a hobby with your son!

  1. Coolermaster masterkeys Pro S RGB would probably be a good candidate for a first entry to the hobby. It is a pretty good quality board, and it has a standard layout, which means you can easily swap out keycaps without having to worry about special keysizes. It also has RGB, which i'm certain your son will find fun to play with as well. I just included a link to Amazon, but if you search a bit more i'm sure you could find a better deal.

  2. As for keycaps you have a lot of choices in every pricerange. If you are looking for something specific, i suggest /r/mechmarket. Almost always someone is willing to sell you what you are looking for, for a reasonable price.

    Alternatively you could look at something like WASDkeyboards. They have a service, where you can make your own keyset, and have them make it. The quality is not the best, but i'm sure your son would appreciate being able to create something, and see his creation on his own keyboard.

    As for higher end options, i'm not sure how relevant they are for you, but you can look into GMK and Signature Plastics keycaps, which are available through a ton of websites like,, and the list goes on. If you want i can give you a ton of more links in a PM.

  3. Building a keyboard, is a good way to go deeper into the hobby, and i'm sure it would be a fun project. I suggest you take a good look at winkeyless' website. It's a store that sells keyboards in kit form, and they have pretty nice stuff. It's more expensive than a prebuilt like the Coolermaster, but that is just how it goes in this hobby.

    As for building the board, that is a whole topic in it self, and i suggest you start with the first point in your post, and move on from there. Learning about everything is part of the experience IMO.

    Hope the hobby brings you a ton of fun for you and your son. Also feel free to ask any question. There's a ton of people who would be happy to help. Including myself!
u/paulg1120 · 6 pointsr/hoggit

T16000M FCS
and TFRP
both by Thrustmaster are a good combo and will only run you for about 200.
This guy did a pretty decent review on it.
Or you could do the TFRP pedals with the x-56 AND a trackIR included in the combo on amazon if you don't have one and it will run you just under 500.

The warthog stick and throttle and the TFRP pedals will put you right at 500 via amazon if you don't need trackir so there's that.

I need to get a life.

u/fruit_saladfingers · 6 pointsr/Vive

If I was buying now, I'd get the new T1600M setup. Haven't used that throttle, but I have the previous version of the t1600m stick and I've been happy with it.

u/Anarchistguy_2 · 6 pointsr/RetroPie
u/PriceKnight · 6 pointsr/bapcsalescanada

Price History

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    Call the Bishop, these prices are sinful.
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u/OttoCobbler · 6 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

The TK version is already out. It's called the MasterKeys L. I'm very surprised because I'm not sure how OP got his hands on a TKL cause I didn't think they had been released yet. TK Version

u/AndyOB · 6 pointsr/DestinyTheGame

Have you ever thought about something like this? I bought one of these for WoW and sometimes end up playing LoL with one hand just because I can.

u/[deleted] · 6 pointsr/snes

If you've got the original SNES controlers, I recommend the SNES-to-USB adapter which works great with my two original ones and my ASCII pad.

u/Archerofyail · 6 pointsr/Vive

This would be the equivalent of on-screen controls for mobile games. They suck to use because there's no physical feedback, other than maybe some haptics. People who already have setups probably won't have any interest in it, and there's already a really good, relatively inexpensive option for a HOTAS, which is the Thrustmaster FCS. It isn't as cheap as I thought, but it's still less than $200. The only thing you're missing is some pedals, but they're not strictly required. Not being able to see the controls isn't really an issue, because all the buttons and hats are within finger's (or thumb's) reach. It's just more a matter of memorizing the layout of your custom keybinds.

Also, I don't know how it would be implemented, but it would probably have a significant performance impact if it is possible.

u/Masark · 6 pointsr/EliteDangerous

Options I recommend:

  • The Thrustmaster T-flight HOTAS X - This is entry level HOTAS that goes for $40-50 USD. 12 buttons, an 8-way hat, twist stick, and rudder rocker. This tends to have the "a little short of controls" problem, as Elite has lots of stuff to bind, so you'll likely want to either use the keyboard for more buttons or set up a series of modifiers like this to fit everything on it. The HOTAS One and HOTAS 4 (for the Xbox and PS4, respectively, though both are also PC compatible) are slightly upgraded versions of this stick, with the same exterior, but improved internals tightening the deadzone and making them a bit more precise. They're usually more expensive than the X, but you might catch them on sale for cheaper occasionally. Note that this unit only uses 1 USB port, as the throttle and stick are connected to each other via a cable (about 20" long). This is something to keep in mind if you plan on mounting them to chair arms or something. I personally used this unit previously. It's a perfectly good setup, though I personally found the lack of buttons to be annoying after awhile. Note that the throttle has a detent at 50%, making it nicely suited to full range operation, with the detent separating forward and reverse.
  • The Thrustmaster Stick X. This unit is basically the above, but without the throttle and the buttons transferred to the stick base along with a throttle slider. Rings in at a little cheaper.
  • The Thrustmaster T16000M. This is a refreshed version of the classic T16000M, with minor exterior changes (reshaped hat, reshaped trigger, reshaped throttle, and tactile indicators on the base buttons). It's notable for being one of the rare ambidextrous sticks (you just swap out a couple parts to switch it) Unlike the X (which uses potentiometers), this unit uses contactless hall effect sensors, giving it very smooth motion with excellent precision. 16 buttons, an 8-way hat, twist stick and throttle slider. More buttons available than the X. The stick by itself rings in at about the same price as the HOTAS X.

    Moving up, there's the Thrustmaster T16000M FCS HOTAS. This is the above T16000M stick along with Thrustmaster's new TWCS throttle. Totalling them up, you get 19 buttons, two 8-way hats, two 4-way hats, a two-way switch, an analog stick, throttle slider, rudder rocker, and an analog dial, which is plenty of room for all the stuff you need (note that the throttle has no detent, so you'll probably want to run it forward only with a button assigned to reverse). This is what I personally use and I quite like it. Note that all the components of this set are available separately and can function independently (each needs its own USB port, so you might want to buy a hub with these). So you could buy the stick today and the throttle next month. Or buy the throttle and some other stick or buy two sticks, or whatever. There's also a set of pedals available if that's your jam.

    As for the money making, there are basically 3 options.

  • Core mining for void opals - See CMDR Madprophet's mining guide and/or Yekbot's visual guide to core mining for information on this.
  • Hotspot laser mining for painite or low temperature diamonds - See this video for information on that. Method is identical for both, only difference is what location you go to.
  • Robigo passenger missions - See this video for information on that.
u/rasmorak · 6 pointsr/hoggit

>will I have to buy a numpad?

Buy a HOTAS. A decent one will give you more than enough buttons, and if you are going to play DCS a lot, it's really the only way to do it.

Otherwise, you'll need several layers of modifier binds.

u/cracktr0 · 6 pointsr/summonerschool

Mechanical keyboards are great. Razor is good for mice, I'd choose someone else for keyboard though. Corsair makes good products in both categories, I'd start there. I have a 10-keyless k65 corsair, but they have full size versions of the same if you prefer a numpad.

Is the one I have and I have no complaints after 1+ years :)

Mouse suggestion ^^

I know these are both probably slightly outside your price-range but they are definitely worth their costs.

u/justhere4inspiration · 6 pointsr/classicwow

Razer is a scam, IMO their products just don't hold up that well for the ridiculous price tag. Everything I've bought from them is now broken, and I won't buy anything else. It's all marketing. Personally, I prefer logitec but I decided for WoW I'd try just picking up a cheapo MMO mouse, and honestly so far it's been great. I've been using it for around a year, started on PServers, and had zero issues so far:

It's that brand and has the same side button configuration but whichever one I have doesn't have all the RGB lights all over it. Less than half the price of a naga, and has a thumb shelf.

u/jaseworthing · 6 pointsr/hotas

At the $150 price point, the thrust master FCS is your best bet.

u/mmafan18 · 5 pointsr/NBA2k

You said you have an xbox 360. Do you have a wireless or wired controller ?

If you have a wireless controller you can just get an adapter
like this one and use the controller on PC.

u/jjjacer · 5 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Although it does smudge easy, but for work it works.

Brand is Havit

Normally is $50 but a facebook ad had a code for it that dropped it to $18 so I will not complain

u/BlackMoth27 · 5 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

try this board out?

it's a low profile gaming mechanical keyboard i personally really like mine.

u/Azurphax · 5 pointsr/buildapc

Here it is on Amazon, $100 free shipping.

u/cjbprime · 5 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

There are new low-profile switches that came out recently from Cherry and Kailh, and they sound like what you want. There isn't a lot of board selection yet though. If you can tolerate the noise of blue switches, I think you'd like this one for $50:

I'm using a Noppoo Choc Mini with 35g Gateron Clears, and that sounds like another option. Super light switches (the lightest you can buy), no scratchiness at all, but the keycaps are a bit tall compared to chiclets. It's about $60, I tried finding a link for that one but it looks like Newegg is out of stock now.

By the way, there are lots of people who feel similarly about chiclets. I type fast (~130wpm) and play Starcraft 2 competitively, and haven't found anything that works as well for me as an old ThinkPad membrane keyboard, despite a tour of mech keyboards. Am hoping these low profile switches will work for me, but blues are too noisy.

u/fluxual · 5 pointsr/RetroPie

Might I recommend [mayflash 300 arcade stick] ( for fighting games. 60 bucks and works on almost everything (with a caveat that it must be plugged into a wireless xbox one/ps4 controller to be used on those systems). No extra steps for PC or retropie, works right out of the box.

u/shlokrshah · 5 pointsr/buildapcsales


u/ComputersByte · 5 pointsr/bapcsalescanada

Probably just competing with this

u/yniew · 5 pointsr/GameDealsMeta

Both the Steam Link ($19.99) and the Steam Controller ($34.99) are the same price on Amazon now which might be a better deal when factoring in shipping costs.
Steam Link
Steam Controller

u/Yung2112 · 5 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Then I reccomend the next gen exterminator, seen here . Also I would like to reccomend throwing in a 100 bucks for a decent mechanical keyboard (I reccomend quickfire TK red switches, only my preference tho ), and get a qck + gaming mouse pad, 10 bucks for something that will make your mouse feel sooo much smoother

u/OrangePyromancer · 5 pointsr/Steam

You can get it on Amazon! That's where I got mine from.

u/seaking177 · 5 pointsr/SteamController <- 35$ steam controller

u/clee290 · 5 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

You can check out the Cooler Master Masterkeys Pro RGB series (full-size or TKL). Most people here would recommend those over Razer/Corsair/Logitech. You can also check out keyboards by Ducky or iKBC.

u/SwimmingAshes · 5 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

If you want a clicky keyboard you'll want one with MX Blues or one of its many clones.

I would avoid Corsair if possible, they are quite poor value for what you get and you will have difficulty swapping the keycaps in the future due to a non-standard bottom row.

Take a look at the Cooler Master Masterkeys series of keyboards.

They are comparable to the Corsair but better built and better value and more open-ended when it comes to customization.

Just choose the layout you want (full size, TKL, etc) and choose "MX Blue (clicky)" and you're good to go.

u/hobofats · 5 pointsr/gaming
u/ZMOT7S · 5 pointsr/linux_gaming

If anybody wants prime shipping I chatted with them last night and they wouldn't price match so I suggested they put it on sale for the same price. They said they would take that suggestion to the team. Today it's on sale for the same price!

u/kysomyral · 5 pointsr/EliteDangerous

As far as I know, the only HOTAS with out-of-the-box support for PS4 is the Thrustmaster T.Flight HOTAS 4. I would love to see it supported, and would buy the game the instant it became available for that reason alone despite already owning it on Xbox.

u/oviforconnsmythe · 5 pointsr/oculus

Getting a proper Hotas will make ED much much better even in non VR mode.

I've heard mixed things about saitek hotas'. While they look and feel really good, I hear they break pretty easily and saitek customer service is shitty AFAIK.

I'd recommend getting the thrustmaster t.16000m Hotas.

It was designed with elite dangerous in mind, I think they collaborated with Frontier.
This is what I have and it's fantastic for elite dangerous. They button layout on the throttle is really smart, although the lack of buttons on the stick itself is slightly annoying. In Canada it was cheaper than the x52 by $50 and I couldn't be happier with it.

u/BlakeBurna · 5 pointsr/ElitePS

Hands On Throttle And Stick. (Had to look it ip myself a while ago). A joystick and throttle. Here is the one for PS4

(not sure if others besides this one will work on the system). Ordered one myself to maybe try it out. Might see how it works on the PS4 controller first though.

u/jtskywalker · 5 pointsr/EliteDangerous

A joystick is ideal for this. I use this joystick and throttle combo (there are better ones out there, like the T1600M). A lot of people use dual joysticks or joystick and keyboard. There are a lot of controls so you need a lot of buttons, but if you're doing joystick and keyboard you should have plenty even if your stick is light on buttons.

u/Kyrias · 5 pointsr/EliteDangerous

I'm using that and it works great.

I got that for my brother because I love him more than he loves me and he seems to like it. However they did some software/firmware upgrades on it that apparently limited customisability.

u/samurai_rob · 5 pointsr/ElitePS

Here's the only one that I know of that works with the PS4. Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas 4 Flight Stick for PS4 & PC
I have it and LOVE IT! It took a bit of time to customize the controls to my liking, but once I got used to it, I can't go back to a controller.

u/KaosC57 · 5 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Neither. Cooler Master Masterkeys Pro L It's better than both of those boards.

u/dr_lorax · 5 pointsr/hoggit

Lol, that’s the million dollar question. I’m not sure what your budget is but I seem to think I’ve heard good things about the Thrustmaster T1600 stick and throttle T1600 Amazon. I hope that link works but it looks like the stick and throttle are $129 for the pair and that seems like a good deal to me but I got my setup a few years ago so not sure about the pricing and deals that they have now. My setup is also a Thrustmaster but it’s the Warthog Hotas which is a bit higher on the price scale but I’ve been happy with the brand. I hope this helps a bit.

u/_paramedic · 5 pointsr/hackintosh

(continued from previous post)

The DAYUM Build (AKA The You Spend Irresponsibly Build) ~ $5500

Price breakdown by merchant

CPU | Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor | $554.98 @ NCIX US
CPU Cooler | Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $89.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard | Asus Rampage IV Black Edition EATX LGA2011 Motherboard | $391.98 @ Newegg
Memory | Corsair Vengeance 64GB (8 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $594.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $229.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Western Digital Red Pro 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $139.74 @ SuperBiiz
Storage | Western Digital Red Pro 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $139.74 @ SuperBiiz
Storage | Western Digital Red Pro 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $139.74 @ SuperBiiz
Storage | Western Digital Red Pro 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $139.74 @ SuperBiiz
Storage | Western Digital Red Pro 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $139.74 @ SuperBiiz
Video Card | EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked Video Card (4-Way SLI) | $549.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked Video Card (4-Way SLI) | $549.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked Video Card (4-Way SLI) | $549.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked Video Card (4-Way SLI) | $549.99 @ Amazon
Case | Fractal Design Define XL R2 (Black Pearl) ATX Full Tower Case | $124.99 @ NCIX US
Power Supply | Corsair AX1500i 1500W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $405.98 @ Newegg
Optical Drive | Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer | $16.98 @ OutletPC
Optical Drive | Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer | $16.98 @ OutletPC
Wireless Network Adapter | Rosewill RNX-N150UBE 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter | $11.98 @ OutletPC
Case Fan | Corsair CO-9050017-WLED 66.4 CFM 140mm Fan | $13.98 @ OutletPC
Case Fan | Corsair CO-9050017-WLED 66.4 CFM 140mm Fan | $13.98 @ OutletPC
Case Fan | Corsair CO-9050017-WLED 66.4 CFM 140mm Fan | $13.98 @ OutletPC
Case Fan | Corsair CO-9050017-WLED 66.4 CFM 140mm Fan | $13.98 @ OutletPC
Case Fan | Corsair CO-9050017-WLED 66.4 CFM 140mm Fan | $13.98 @ OutletPC
| | Total
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $5407.40
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-28 05:09 EST-0500 |

This shit is gonna blow any Mac Pro away. In fact, it'll blow everything away. You better have a backup generator. And you better know what you're getting into smh. Btw, I have no idea whether this is Hackintosh-compatible. Asus motherboards can be tricky but if you're going to invest this much money you might as well invest the time to set it all up. Or hire someone. Whatever. Oh, and still cheaper than a "comparable" (lol, it doesn't compare) Mac Pro by like, $4000. Buy yourself a render farm. Or more than one computer. Or the Apple Store.


Price breakdown by merchant

CPU | Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor | $104.99 @ SuperBiiz
Thermal Compound | Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste | $6.49 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-H87N Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard | $96.98 @ OutletPC
Memory | G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $61.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $82.99 @ NCIX US
Case | Fractal Design Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case | $78.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply | Corsair RM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $88.99 @ Directron
| | Total
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $521.42
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-28 05:18 EST-0500 |

Time for the render node! You only really need a processor and stuff that fits with it. I went barebones with this, and stuffed it all into the smallest case I could while leaving breathing room for cooling. You can stack these on top of each other. Better yet, buy an IKEA drawer set and put them in drawers. Remember to carve out the back to allow for air to escape and to manage cables. Voila! Your own render farm, nicely tucked next to your desk.

Disclaimer: I got the render-farm-in-drawers idea from this guy. I saw it on a blog like year or two ago, I had no idea he started a website. Check it out!


For video editing, gaming, and general use, I recommend the following monitor because it isn't glossy (fuck glare!), is LED-backlit, has IPS technology for amazing viewing angles and color reproduction, is HDMI-compatible, 1080p, has a fast response time (5 ms), and is relatively affordable (about $160 USD street.)

If you want headphones, check these out. They're great middle-range headphones that are good for music, gaming, and other general use.

If you're doing audio work, I recommend using monitors for accurate sound-reproduction and to avoid coloring your mixes. A ton of people I know swear by these. Remember to treat your room! There are great tips and guides for all genres of music over at r/edmproduction. Don't let the name fool you; they have some great stuff for everyone.

In terms of mice, any will do; I personally recommend this one, though.

In terms of keyboards, use whatever you're comfortable with. I know a lot of people swear by mechanical keyboards, especially keyboards that have CherryMX keys. I personally hate them because I'm far more accurate with chiclet keyboards. However, I plan to change my key caps to some that are shallower/need to be pressed harder to register (I currently have Cherry MX Reds, want to switch to Browns). The great thing about mechanical keyboards is that they are customizable! If you are used to Apple Keyboards, this keyboard should provide a good balance between the feel of chiclet keys and that of a mechanical keyboard.

If you're balking at these prices, you're not alone. Unfortunately, quality products mean shelling out hard-earned moolah. If you can afford it and think it will be valuable to you, I think these products should work well for their intended purposes and have good quality. I have personally used all of these products. Of course, don't take my word for it; look around r/buildapc, r/headphones, and r/edmproduction for more recommendations.

(continued in final post)

u/PandiReddits · 5 pointsr/hardwareswap

The Deathadder Chroma sells for $70 new, its even discounted right now on amazon for $54, I was in a thread earlier and someone sold one for $35. Adjust your price if you really want to sell it.

u/bug_eyed_earl · 5 pointsr/EliteDangerous

Sounds like the TM T-16000m is a better overall hotas for the same price.

u/aakaakaak · 5 pointsr/Guildwars2

Hey friend. It appears you're having some issues with your caps lock randomly locking. I've taken the liberty of looking for a decent keyboard replacement for you.


Red Dragon Mechanical Keyboard


With a mechanical you should be able to simply replace the key the next time you have an issue with it. Good luck friend!

u/Kuro_Neko00 · 5 pointsr/EliteDangerous

The Thrustmaster 16000M, either by itself, as a hotas, or as a hosas is regarded as a good entry level stick by many.

edit: best way to make credits in-game by far is mining, either surface mining for painite or core mining for void opals. Easily 100m/hr or more if you know what you're doing, and/or follow one of the many guides on youtube. I can't personally advise though as I've been actively avoiding it. I don't want to be rich so quick I have no idea what to do with it.

u/Lethality0 · 5 pointsr/buildapc

The one thing I’d add to that is a mechanical keyboard. You can buy the redragon k552 for $33 , and the rgb version is $45

u/Clorix · 5 pointsr/flightsim

Thrustmaster T16000M FCS Joystick if you're REALLY pressed for space. Otherwise, I wouldn't hesitate to buy the Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS Controller, which includes the HOTAS half of the setup. I think it's easily the best setup for the money.

edit: fixed the first link.

u/Toastymallowz · 4 pointsr/videos

Mouse - $14

Keyboard - $28

"Literally" exaggerating

u/project_defiance · 4 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Here ya go friend!

Gaming Keyboard Mechanical Keyboard K552 KUMARA by Redragon 87 Key LED RGB Backlit Mechanical Computer illuminated Keyboard with Blue Switches for PC Gaming Compact ABS-Metal Design

u/Dweather_ · 4 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Sure! One board that I found when I first started digging into this hobby was Velocifire's TKL01, which let me know how brown switches felt. There's also the RedDragon Kumara which I see around a lot from people that want to try the hobby before they really deeply invest. There's also the Magicforce 68 which is one of the most recommended budget boards around here, especially for people that want to flirt with smaller layouts than TKL or full size.

u/alose · 4 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

At that price range, you are really better to buy new, as most any decent keyboard will be more than $50 used, and I would not trust any budget keyboard that was on the used market. And at $50, forget about RGB.

We highly recommend dropping the number pad and using a TKL or smaller keyboard. You are literally hurting yourself by using a fullsize if you are a right handed mouse user. Either you are putting undo strain on your shoulder by reaching far out to the right, or undo strain on your wrist my shifting your typing area to the left.

If you still want a fullsize in spite of our recommendations, then an Eagletec is probably the best option.

A Redragon, Tomoko, or Magicforce are probably the best in your price range. I would recommend the Magicforce over the others.

u/TheStoneNinja00 · 4 pointsr/buildapcforme

Some items on the list didn't have a direct link to Best Buy, but could be found on their website. I've made copies of these items as custom parts with URLs to the correct page for your convenience. I seriously spent 2 hours on this list. No exaggerating. I checked. I included an optic drive that does everything. Blu-Ray, Cds, DVDs, done. Slap on some headphones and you've got a pretty decent and nice looking gaming and media machine.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU | Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor | $189.99 @ Best Buy
Memory | PNY Optima 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory | $74.99 @ Best Buy
Storage | Transcend SSD340 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $114.99 @ Best Buy
Storage | Seagate SuperSpeed HDD 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive | $112.99 @ Best Buy
Video Card | MSI GeForce GTX 750 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card |-
Case | Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case |-
Power Supply | Corsair RM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $112.99 @ Best Buy
Optical Drive | Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer | $82.99 @ Best Buy
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) |-
Monitor | Acer H236HLbid 60Hz 23.0" Monitor | $149.99 @ Best Buy
Keyboard | Razer BlackWidow Wired Gaming Keyboard |-
Mouse | Razer DeathAdder Wired Laser Mouse |-
Other| MSI Gaming Motherboard| $175.96
Other| XBox One Wireless Controller| $59.99
Other| Rosewill CHALLENGER Case URL| Purchased
Other| MSI Windforce Twin Frozr GPU URL| Purchased
Other| Windows 7 OS URL| Purchased
Other| Razer DeathAdder URL| Purchased
| | Total
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $1415.76
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-21 04:04 EST-0500 |

I will also recommend Razer's Sabertooth controller, which is a bit more pricey, but way cooler.

Also, In order to use your xbox one controller with your PC, you'll need this.

Here are some examples of what you can accomplish outside of Best Buy:

And I can make a new build from scratch to further prove my point. I really hope this helped. Let me know if you want more advice :)

u/BibbitZ · 4 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Probably better to upgrade something else using that card. Or sell it so you have that $50 to spend elsewhere. There are budget friendly options out there that would easily be recommended, but none of them are at Best Buy.

u/ldminh94 · 4 pointsr/hardwareswap

Isn't the keyboard $39 on Amazon ?

u/k3rnel · 4 pointsr/GlobalOffensive

Oh I agree that they don't need a smaller keyboard. I have just found that it is more comfortable to use one.

I am typical person who hates change and defended using a full size KB for a long time, and after moving to a TKL I wish I had done it years earlier.

I have a USB numpad (can't live without it) and everything is just fine.

I've been wanting a Quickfire TK since I first saw them. Just one key wider than a TKL but has a full numpad.

u/ch1ck3npotpi3 · 4 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Razer makes some nice mice, but their mechanical keyboards are some of the worst I've ever seen. Only Logitech makes worse mechanical keyboards, in my opinion.

Anyhoo, do you happen to know what kind of switches your boyfriend likes? If not and if he's never owned a mechanical keyboard before, then you should play it safe and stick to something with a brown switch. Do you know what size keyboard he wants? If he wants something compact, then I recommend the Magicforce 68. Stupid name, I know, but the build quality is superb for the price. If you're willing to wait for Black Friday, there will be a 50% sale on the Glorious Modular Keyboard. It's one of the most readily customizable keyboards on the market.

u/Capital_Offense · 4 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Cooler Master Masterkeys S PBT. It's not fancy, but it has MX Browns and is only $80. If you want LEDs, there is also the Masterkeys Pro S.

u/DangerG · 4 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Its no longer in production

The masterkeys pro s is the newer version of that board. It also comes in a a PBT version found here

u/imma_trashcan · 4 pointsr/EliteDangerous

$606 in total, better sytem than i am running right now. i run with medium-high-1080p settings and get 40 to 60 fps.

$160 GTX 1050 Ti Low Profile 4GB

$180 refurbished i7-3770 dell

$64 replace the ram with this ram

$100 1080p monitor 23.6"

$30 redragon mechanical keyboard

$12 redragon mouse

$60 hotas one (pc ready)


brand new ryzen 3 build $710. (buy the video card at EVGA midweek madness every wednesday.)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU | AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor | $89.99 @ Newegg Business
Motherboard | Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | $59.99 @ Amazon
Memory | Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory | $65.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $39.99 @ Monoprice
Video Card | EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4 GB SSC GAMING ACX 3.0 Video Card | Purchased For $130.00
Case | Thermaltake - Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case | $36.73 @ Newegg Business
Power Supply | EVGA - 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $32.99 @ Monoprice
Operating System | Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $98.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan | Corsair - CO-9050016-RLED 52.19 CFM 120mm Fan | $18.67 @ OutletPC
Monitor | Asus - VN248H-P 23.8" 1920x1080 Monitor | $89.99 @ Newegg
Keyboard | Redragon - K552 Wired Gaming Keyboard | $29.99 @ Amazon
Mouse | Redragon - Centrophorus M601 Wired Optical Mouse | $11.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $705.31
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-26 18:10 EST-0500 |

u/MotorbreathX · 4 pointsr/GameDeals
u/SurfaceDockGuy · 4 pointsr/Surface

For Excel work, a full numpad is crucial. So I got an 80%:

I still don't understand the whole "tenkeyless" thing - why have inverted T arrow keys that take up the same amount of space as a full numpad? A full numpad is far more useful - especially for gaming.

u/gmcemu · 4 pointsr/funny

Here's the one I bought off amazon. It works great but it's the og japanese version that has a shorter cord than the US version. So you may want to get a usb extension cable if your planning on playing very far from from your pc. I use a mayflash adapter to connect it to my pc and it's automatically recognized by most platformer type games I play like super meat boy, super house of dead ninjas, and electronic super joy.

u/tigojones · 4 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

In general, Das, for some reason or another, tend to be a little high-priced for the quality of the board. They're not bad, but you can find better for simliar pricing.

That particular Das you linked to uses some off-brand switch instead of Cherry or Gateron (Cherry is the original that they all copy, Gateron makes a well respected and popular clone).

For example, this Cooler Master Masterkeys L is cheaper, uses Cherry switches and has programmable white backlighting. And this Cooler Master Masterkeys L is only a little more expensive, uses Cherry switches and has programmable RGB lighting.

And Form Factor (from your other post) describes the physical size and layout of a keyboard. Full/100% is your standard keyboard. TKL is the next step smaller, and cuts off the numberpad. 60% is when you take a TKL and chop off the Arrow/Navigation keys and the F1-12 row, leaving just the alphanumeric characters and the surrounding modifiers.

Those are about the three most common form factors, but there are others as well (40% for those looking for something really portable and compact. 65% for those who want a 60% but can't live without the arrow keys.).

u/ethansky · 4 pointsr/Overwatch

Logitech g pro on amazon is on sale iirc

Yup, onsale for $49.99, normally $69.99

u/c-span_celebrity · 4 pointsr/editors

I'm using the utech venus I bought on a whim as a cheap knock off Logitech G600.

Love it! But when I replace it I'll spend the extra for Logitech. Utech doesn't have full support on OSX so if you want to update any of your short cut buttons you have to use a PC. Once updated they transfer... but you know the whole command vs control doing different things in your software on the different operating systems. You can get a work-around for a bunch but not all.

The 12 buttons on the side are over kill. I'd prefer 6 bigger ones that'd I'd be more accurate with, but it's a pretty minor complaint for this mouse saving me literally 30+ mins a day of repetitive keystrokes... oh god zooming in and out of the timeline in Media Composer is just a thumb click

u/shadowstar2417 · 4 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Magicforce 68 is one of the most solid "beginner" boards around, they're really good for the price.

The Drevo Gramr is $3 more. It looks smaller, but it has the same keys as a TKL just condensed a little bit.

Rantopad MXX is also a good choice.

or the Redragon K552 is $10 cheaper without the numpad, though I believe this keyboard uses Kailh switches (the old ones are very bad) so I'm not sure if I'd actually recommend it.

u/SavagePigeon69 · 4 pointsr/pcmasterrace

The Redragon K552 is a great value for it's price and it is backlit.

u/TheRoyalBrook · 4 pointsr/buildapcsales

If your'e really tight on money the one without LEDs is even cheaper

u/aikosaka · 4 pointsr/buildapcsales


Avery Glue Stic White, 0.26 oz., Washable, Nontoxic, Permanent Adhesive, 1 Glue Stick (00161)
Sold by: Services, Inc

Add-on Item

Condition: New
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Logitech G Pro Gaming FPS Mouse with Advanced Gaming Sensor for Competitive Play
Sold by: Services, Inc

Condition: New

Order Summary

Item(s) Subtotal: $31.18 Shipping & Handling: $0.00 Prime Reward: -$15.00 Total before tax: $16.18 Estimated tax to be collected: $1.58 Grand Total: $17.76

u/Sweetwill62 · 4 pointsr/techsupportgore

I took a chance on this $30 dollar mouse and I will have to say it is completely worth 30 dollars. I've used and abused it for close to 2 years now and the only actual complaint I have for it is the fact that it only has one mouse button near the left click instead of the two that the naga has. I got used to it but really for $30 I really can't complain a whole lot.

u/Super206 · 4 pointsr/hoggit

It's a cheap(er) HOTAS, it's biggest upside is a lot of inputs, if you're looking for something that will guarantee to last a long time I wouldn't look at a recent Saitek/Madcatz as a first choice. IMO the throttle is a much nicer unit than the stick and worth hanging on to. The stick layout is okay, my only gripe is the shape of the hats, and unless you have large hands it's a stretch from the base resting position to the top switches, if that base was a half-inch or so higher it would be a lot better.

I have one, and I really like it, I've had it for since mid 2014 and I haven't experienced any failures. I guess I'm lucky, but you get what you pay for for things like this. In fairness, Hotasessesse's across the board have much higher failure rates than any other peripheral input device such as mice and simple sticks like a Logitech Attack-3/5. CH and TM products aren't flawless, but they are better built and more consistent, worth spending the money on if you have it.

However, with the changeover in the parent company (MC -> Logitech) I would keep an eye on them. If you need something right-the-f***-now without spending much, a Thrustmaster T1600M FCS kit just came out as TM's answer to a proper budget hotas, and the reviews are good so far. Just keep in mind that it's built to fit a low cost so don't expect a lot of metal.

u/qazaqwert · 4 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

If you live in north america or europe there are definitely some good quality sub $50 mechanical keyboards. Id look at some of redragon's stuff
Yeah you arent gonna get rgb or name-brand switches but its still mechanical and really good for the price.

u/salajander · 4 pointsr/flying

Unless you're willing to spend a ton of $$ on a high-end yoke, you'll just be disappointed. You'll be happier with something like a Thrustmaster T 16000M. (

Most of the $100-$200 yokes just aren't that good, and you'll end up being frustrated with it. And you won't have any issues transferring stick/hotas in a sim to a yoke in plane.

u/SwedishWaffle · 4 pointsr/hoggit

Head tracking is an advantage, but not a must (I do fine without it). Get yourself an entry level HOTAS such as the thrustmaster t.16000m fcs.

This will give you more than enough money for an entry level module. I'd recommend the non-clicky-cockpit Flaming Cliffs 3 pack and/or a simple clicky-pit plane like the F-5E Tiger II

u/dallasz09 · 4 pointsr/EliteDangerous

i bought the thrustmaster t16000m for my first hotas. got hundreds of hours on it and its not bad for an entry level for the price.

u/Razorx1970 · 4 pointsr/dcsworld
u/ChicksDigNerds · 4 pointsr/Vive

Not a fix for not being able to switch the in game model to a lefty, but Thrustmaster makes a hotas setup that has a fully ambidextrous flight stick, comes with all the parts to convert it to left handed mode.

Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS Controller

u/CrowSpine · 4 pointsr/pcmasterrace

You know, I actually bought this same exact keyboard about 2 months ago and I love it. It's the first mechanical keyboard that I've bought and although I didn't look closely enough at it on Amazon and I bought one without a number pad, I still don't regret it. I've been using this mouse for about two years too and their stuff, although cheap compared to other brands, actually seems alright.

u/VictorMorson · 4 pointsr/OutreachHPG


It's not a major mouse brand, which might instantly turn off a lot of people. However, it's highly programmable, has all of the bells and whistles of an $80 mouse, feels incredibly durable and is not made from flimsy stuff, and the software is utterly amazingly easy to key bind anything you'd like to any button on the mouse, including customizing the DPI. [The DPI buttons can even be re-assigned, with no restrictions.] It's very simple and lightweight, too; it's very good at what it does without any bloat.

The light color change sounds like a gimmick but since you can assign a different color and glow pattern to each profile (which takes about 2 seconds to swap), it helps you easily ID what is loaded onto the mouse.

The drivers are flawless and the button layout is very good; after day 2 with the mouse, I never hit the side buttons on accident thanks to their design.

Long story short, I've had high end expensive mice for many, many years and this is easily the best mouse I've owned in a while. Very sturdy, reliable, and considerably more customizable than the more well known multi-button mice. With 5 customizable DPI levels, it's perfect for MechWarrior, as well.

And all this for the price of a cheap "new computer" freebie-quality mouse. I really recommend this thing. If you're willing to consider a smaller hardware manufacturer, you'll way more than get your money's worth.. doubly so since you get all this for under forty bucks.

ED: The side buttons work very well for MW:O, from strikes to UAVs to coolant, it's nice to have it all on the same location.

ED2: Because of the above I've taken to not customizing games I play all the time, but customizing the mouse to the game. That was doubly nice in Star Citizen since it lacks key binds right now.

u/rythian_ · 4 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

You can get one with chinese switches on amazon for REALLY cheap

it's not the best, but the quality is still 1000000X better than a regular keyboard

u/dskylark · 4 pointsr/starcitizen

Dual T16000M seem to be really popular on this subreddit. Its getting a Elite Dangerous Tie in update next month. The stick is the same but comes with a brand new throttle that has an anlaog hat.

I've never seen anyone use a 6 DOF mouse before.

u/TapedeckNinja · 4 pointsr/elderscrollsonline

Get an MMO mouse, map all of your abilities to the extra buttons on the mouse.

Something like this:

Or this:

u/JohnyEZ · 4 pointsr/pcmasterrace

If you have friends you open your selection up greatly. I recommend lethal league, duck game, civ 5, warframe, g mod, Don't starve together, borderlands 2, rocket league, csgo, speed runners, killing floor 1 or 2, portal 1 and 2, Monaco, overwatch, league of legends(for some people), and payday 2.

And for single player:
Alien: Isolation, stardew valley, prison architect, Faster than light, Fallout 3, NV, and 4, skyrim, skyrim: enderal, GTA 5, Just Cause 3, shadows of mordor, Batman Arkham city, papers please, shovel knight, bio shock infinite,doom, dragon age inquisition, this is the police, journey, Abzu, witcher 3, wolfenstein, ,Metal Gear Solid 5, Deus Ex games, and dust force.

There's more but not off the top of my head but msg me if you want more suggestions.

And for Mice, FinalMouse:

Razer Death Adder:

u/Bulletwithbatwings · 4 pointsr/hotas

So many people have defective Saitek products. It is a purchase you will regret, especially since support no longer exists. If you can afford it, the best "cheap" hotas it the Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS Controller

u/subterfugeinc · 4 pointsr/raspberry_pi

I have this

No drivers needed. Just SNES controllers. Works flawlessly.

u/chubchubs83 · 4 pointsr/Vive

This HOTAS is great for a budget but you may run out of programmable buttons.

This is the HOTAS I use for Elite, I personally think it is the "best bang for your buck". The HOTAS also comes with a twists stick so you don't need pedals.

u/pooter03 · 4 pointsr/oculus

Check out VTOL VR. It is completely playable with only the Touch controllers.

That being said, DCS is tons of fun in VR. I use a Thrustmaster T16000M stick and throttle which works great with most of the modules.

u/kingoftown · 3 pointsr/Borderlands

If you already have wireless controllers, just buy one of these. Well, that is a generic version if you want, or you can get the official microsoft one. This is what I use.

Your usb charging cable will not work to make it a wired controller even though it seems like it should. Trust me.

u/team_pancakes · 3 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

This board was posted earlier, super low profile, looks pretty nice.

u/mcopper89 · 3 pointsr/buildapcsales

You just need this guy. Ten bucks, and a USB slot and you can use the xbox 360 controller wirelessly. No idea about xbox one. I plan on doing this and I hope windows 8's awful interface will work nicely with the controller so I don't have to use a mouse often. It is going to be set up so I can display on the TV and use it from the couch.

u/hxchip · 3 pointsr/hardwareswap

There are some mech cloneboards on Amazon that'll go as low as the high $20s or $30s, but in the wild (like reddit) you might find a set of keycaps for $20 shipped....

u/squidthesid · 3 pointsr/GameDeals

I believe this is the adapter I use and it works out of the box, but your mileage may vary.

u/LowBBZ · 3 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Hell yeah, Red Dragon keyboard and Centrophorous, best priced budget equipment in my opinion. They were my first, too. They also have a very affordable mechanical keyboard.

u/SSChicken · 3 pointsr/software

Or pick up one of these and a wireless 360 controller. That 10 dollar receiver works so darn well I'm amazed, and it supports 4 controllers as well. I've heard some people say the driver didn't install right away, or correctly, but in my experience it's flawless on every Windows or Linux machine I've tried it on. Plug it in, connect a controller, and bob's your uncle.

u/EvilSpectre · 3 pointsr/usenet

Hardware: Athlon II X4 640 with 16 GBs of Ram. 9 Drives anywhere from 1.5 to 4 TBs with total of 24.5GBs with latest drives running off an IBM M1015 with updated firmware

OS: Windows Server 2012 R2 Essentials

Software on Server: NZBGet - Prefer over Sab because it allows ordering of backup servers

NZBDrone - Run much smoother and has better failed download handling for TV and Anime vs SickBeard

CouchPotato - Works for the most part

NZBFamilyHub - Allows friends/family to request movies/tv/anime without having to bug me to download it and without giving them access to NZBDrone and CP

Cailbre - Ebook server

DriveBender - Allows pooling of all my random HDs into 1 logical drive. Also allows for duplication of certain folders, so if 1 HD dies, that data is still on another.

XBMC(Kodi) - Running on server with Auto Update Library plugin for quick local access to files to populate MySQL XBMC DB

Plex Media Server - Access for family/friends using the Plex XBMC Metadata plugin so I dont have to download metadata twice.

Playback: Living Room - HTPC running Windows 8.1 (link to PCPartPicker here) with XBMC and a bunch of addons and skins connected to MySql DB. Using an IR reciver and Logitech Harmony Touch for control. Also beefy enough vid card to allow it to be a Steam box with 4 Xbox 360 controllers connected with this.

Main Bedroom - Ouya connected wireless with XBMC installed connected to MySQL DB.

Guest Room - Amazon Fire TV connected wireless, rooted to boot into XBMC connected to MySQL DB. If you are looking for a cheap XBMC client, I have had no hiccups or issues with the AFTV.

u/AirlessTHEGOOSE · 3 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Oh is it? Oh jeez...

For 40$ (now 33!) my first board was the Red Dragon Kumara - has those Outemu Blues and red backlighting that's not too obnoxious; although these days I'd reccommend a MagicForce 68 for a first time board.

Edit: Editing

u/thejunioristadmin · 3 pointsr/galaxynote4

You have a couple options. XBOX and PS controllers will work on your phone but not directly. The easiest option is to get an "on the go" (OTG) cable that converts USB micro to regular USB and plug a wired modern controller into the OTG cable. When I say wired I mean you have to have it plugged into your Xbox or PS to play on that system. Modern bluetooth controllers (xbox/ps) with the recharge cables have different setups.

I only have a wireless Xbox controller. I bought the OTG and receiver cables linked below. I tried only for a few minutes to get it working but gave up pretty quick. Plenty of people have gotten this to work and I'm sure I could as well if I tried a bit harder.

I ended up buying the 8BitDo controller to play OG Mario and I really like it. I ended up ordering another one for my wife for Christmas. I bought an MHL adapter and play Super Mario and Contra from my couch on my Plasma with my bluetooth controller. Its pretty slick.

If you use the modern console controllers you aren't able to use the MHL HDMI cable. I know there are other options to throw your phone screen on the TV but I found this the easiest option. I vaguely remember having an issue getting my phone in landscape mode with Chromecast casting.

My Setup

Classic NES Controller It has top trigger buttons as well, all of these are programmable depending on what emulator you use.

OTG Cable Nothing fancy about these, with this one you are supposed to be able to plug a power cable into the extra pigtail to help charge your device while playing. I have used this to plug in a regular USB memory stick, a full size keyboard, and a few other items for testing purposes. Everything worked wonderful.

Wireless Gaming Receiver

MHL adapter I price matched this and a micro SD card at Best Buy. This also has a power port on it which I have used.

Also check out /r/androidgaming for more info or reqs on other controllers besides the ones I've listed.

u/ggabriele3 · 3 pointsr/Surface

The play-and-charge adapter, if i recall correctly, is for charging only. You have to get one of these:

...which should come with the official drivers, or windows should auto-detect it and get them for you, or you can download them.

and there are official drivers. USB 3.0 is backwards compatible to 2.0, don't worry about that.

u/NhcNymo · 3 pointsr/gaming
u/nurupism · 3 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Poor impulse control and terrible spending habits.

Kidding, maybe. But there are many good entry-level keyboards out there for people who are curious about the hobby. The Magicforce 68 is a good one, and our Q&A thread can give you other recommendations.

u/Hammithimmis · 3 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

The [black Magicforce 68 with Gateron Browns] ( has excellent switches and build quality at that price range, along with backlighting.

u/Vizzaka · 3 pointsr/razer

This is the closest thing I have found to a low profile mechanical style switch: Not nearly as flashy or cool as razer, but I still love it.

u/koduh · 3 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards
  • Drevo 75% - $47 - Amazon
  • Drevo 65% (with RGB) - $60 - Amazon
  • Qisan MagicForce68 65% - $40-$70 depending on lighting choice - Amazon
  • CoolerMaster QuickFire Rapid - TKL - $75 - Amazon


  • E-Element - TKL - $37 - Amazon

  • ^^THIS ^^IS ^^NOT ^^RGB ^^but ^^simply ^^a ^^colorful ^^array ^^of ^^single ^^color ^^LEDs
  • HAVIT - Full Size - $50 - Amazon
  • ^^THIS ^^IS ^^NOT ^^RGB ^^but ^^simply ^^a ^^colorful ^^array ^^of ^^single ^^color ^^LEDs

    Edit 2:

  • Redragon - TKL w/ Red LED - $40 - Amazon
u/nosheepnosleep · 3 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

The Havit HV-KB390L might be what you're looking for aside from no numpad.

u/hakonab · 3 pointsr/pcmasterrace

He should actually use one, not just press on it at a store display, and he'll take back what he said.

Also, here's a cheap "mechanical" keyboard for $40

u/impelus · 3 pointsr/GameDeals

You can pick up a third party dongle for like $6. I also suggest picking up a charging base to save on those batteries.

u/ousu · 3 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Here it is in black but with gateron brown switches (they make it with basically any switch you can imagine)

Yes, keycaps are removable

u/wolffer · 3 pointsr/gaming

Could always get a USB->SNES adapter and use an actual controller.

u/-Purple-- · 3 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards
u/2down1up · 3 pointsr/raspberry_pi

I could never find one. So I gave up. The buttons never really felt right. Some people swear by the Buffalo pads, but I just didn't like them.

I caved and went with 2 xbox 360 controllers I had and a usb adapter:

These are refined controllers and maybe a 4, but certainly a 5 or 6 year old can hold and use. Wish I had a better answer.

u/BoggyTheAmazing · 3 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Cheap, mechanical and RGB all in one is very tough to find, and usually even if you do find one at that pricepoint it'll be lacking in other fields such as durability and build quality. That said, I did manage to find one that fits your needs, a Redragon 42$ Kumara.

u/Nishikienrai · 3 pointsr/pcmasterrace

A cheap decent keyboard is the Reddragon K552 for about $31 at the moment.

If you wish to spend a little bit more but better quality, I recommend the CoolerMaster Masterkeys S for ~$80

u/HowManyCaptains · 3 pointsr/battlestations

Thanks! I spend most days here, so I strive to make it a place I enjoy.

Desk is from World Market. It looks like they have a 40% off deal going on right now!

Ultrawide is the Dell Alienware AW3418DW.

Top monitor is a dell 4k 27" I bought a few years ago. Great color reproduction.

Monitor stand || Micca MB42X speakers || Keyboard || Mouse || Lucky cat ;)

u/sav86 · 3 pointsr/xboxone

This isn't new, this is exactly the same as my Mayflash fightstick, exact body and with Playstation, Xbox and PC. It's got cheap parts or considered to be some of the cheapest parts for fightsticks in general, but the useful bit is the 'turbo' feature that it allows for some buttons.

This is nothing but a rebrand or third party acquiring already available parts from a parts supplier. It's very similar to units like a XIM4 that use a controller as a middle man to provide inputs across a controller. You plug the unit or fightstick into the console first then then plug the controller into the fightstick and it piggy backs of the controller inputs.

Amazon Link

u/Milky_Wayfarer · 3 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

But wait, there's more:

I happen to have a CM Quickfire TK w/ MX Browns for sale.

It's in like new condition sitting on my shelf.

$70 shipped.

Let me know..

u/PCtroubles7 · 3 pointsr/pcgaming

Red dragon kumara K552. Anyone who tells you that you can't get a good keyboard for cheap is un-informed. The Kumara is mechanical, heavy, rgb and a solid keyboard all around. I've had mine for 3 years with zero issues. It's 32$ and the only con is that it has no numpad. But if that's your thing, the Kumara k551(i think that's it) has a numpad and is 6 more dollars.

3000+ reviews and a 4.4 rating speaks volumes. Don't buy some overpriced bullshit. Here's a link:

u/DM725 · 3 pointsr/buildapc

The $25-$30 Redragon K552 Mechanical Keyboard is every budget build's friend.

u/houdinikush · 3 pointsr/pcmasterrace

That is why I went with the compromise that is know as the CM Quickfire TK. It has the form factor of a tenkeyless board, but still has the numpad. I think it is awesome!

u/angelartech · 3 pointsr/keyboards

Maybe this Havit? Comes with Kailh Choc switches.

Mechanical Keyboard HAVIT Backlit Wired Gaming Keyboard Extra-Thin & Light, Kailh Latest Low Profile Blue Switches, 87 Keys N-key Rollover HV-KB390L (Black)

u/Nightmaresiege · 3 pointsr/linux_gaming
u/Topre · 3 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

The Cooler Master TK is $89, which is less than $100.

u/Andelulz · 3 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Magicforce 68 I'm actually really happy with it! On the cheap-side too.

u/Redgodzill · 3 pointsr/pcmasterrace

If you've never tried a mechanical keyboard before, its not simply the "click", but the feel of the entire typing experience. You will have to try it out to know what I mean. There are many different types of key switches with different amounts of force required to register their presses, different ones that have a tactile bump that tell you when you've activated the key, ones with no bump at all, different ones that click when pressed down, combinations of these, and a lot more. Its good to be educated about the different types of key switches before finally investing into a mechanical keyboard, based off of your situation and preferences. Head to /r/MechanicalKeyboards if you want to see people with way too many keyboards and good recomendations. Personally, I'd recommend the Cooler Master Storm Quickfire series here and here, or the popular Poker II from Massdrop. A good mechanical keyboard is definitely a worthy investment, as it will last you for a very long time and you can swap out the keycaps if they get damaged or if you want a different look. Also note that Razer's mech keyboards are lower quality than most other keyboards due to their special key switches manufactured in China, so don't trust Razer's keyboards no matter how flashy they look. You're better off with literally any other mechanical keyboard.

For your mouse, its personal preference but if you're going to play something "serious" like CS:GO I'd recommend any mouse from Logitech's gaming lineup since their sensors from the lowest to the highest pricepoint are trusted by pro players.

Happy gaming!

u/Loamawayfromloam · 3 pointsr/bapcsalescanada

Entry level mech keyboard now on sale for anyone interested. Blue switch equivalents, very click/loud.

Red Dragon K552 - 23% off - $31.45

u/Eldebryn · 3 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Do you definitely need a numpad..? If not, I would encourage you to wait a bit for this new simplistic Masterkeys from Coolermaster, as it will be definitely worth it's money. Multiple switches to pick from, great build quality and great keycaps. Also standard layout that you can customize later if you want to, macros and ability to change into Dvorake/Colemak on a firmware level.

u/aviat0rshades · 3 pointsr/RetroPie

I'm currently making one to use with original SNES controllers. I've tried two different adapters and this one has worked the best for me.

u/aikilink · 3 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

I also would suggest Magicforce (68 is good if you want ten-keyless). The cheapest ($40USD) ones on Amazon have no backlight and use Outemu switches. They say that Gateron switches are preferable (I do like them!), and some prefer them over Cherry MX switches even. For $62USD you can get this one with Gateron Brown, and White Backlight:

You can also find it in White body-color.

Be aware that even though Brown Switches are quiet in the Mechanical Keyboard world, they are quite a bit louder to type on with the Magicforce than your usual rubber keyboard! :)

u/X3N016 · 3 pointsr/dbfz

Id get this instead, it's the one I'm using for now

u/reddited_bullets · 3 pointsr/buildapc

1.) take the money you are going to spend on that internal HDD and the external HDD and get you a "large as you can afford" internal SSD. I'd look at either a 1TB or (2) 500GB. Maybe something like this.

2.) Dont waste your money on that keyboard, if you are building a 'red' build, go to amazon and look at the 'red dragon' keyboards.

3.) also, stay away from off brands, IMO. It ain't worth the savings if you have to RMA the part. Mainly looking at the RAM you chose, but the SSD falls in that category also. read reviews. If there are only 2 reviews for something, I personally wouldn't trust it.

u/hoofadoo · 3 pointsr/buildapc

I got this one for my rig and never had a problem with it. Great build quality for the price and the reviews are great

You can get the red backlit for $37 or just plain black for $33

Redragon K552 KUMARA LED Backlit Mechanical Gaming Keyboard (Black)

$40 for a black one with the num pad if you must have that, Redragon K551-N VARA Mechanical Gaming Keyboard (Black)

however I find 10keyless boards to be nicer because of the size and I can't remember the last time I used the num pad.

u/AedandoRL · 3 pointsr/Tekken

I did this:

u/hotelcolliers · 3 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Yeah that's the varmilo va87m. The one suggested to you is just a special edition, the normal one is right [here] ( The layout is a tkl (ten keyless). It's a solid board!

Edit: lots of people enjoy [quickfire tk] ( for their tkl board but your choice.

u/Ma7su · 3 pointsr/bapcsalescanada

> but I don't feel like spending 200$+ on a keyboard

You can get a quality mech for 100.

I've had it for over 2 years. Lots of abuse too. My Razer didn't last 6 months.

u/samus12345 · 3 pointsr/RetroPie

I'd recommend the Mayflash f300 because it works with pretty much anything and can be upgraded with more high quality parts later if you want. the elite version already has high quality parts if you want to skip that step.

u/OavatosDK · 3 pointsr/smashbros

Sticks like this or this are definitely "not good enough". If you read the associated reviews and they speak positively it is almost always in context of "budget" and "easily modded".

If you've never played on generic parts vs. good ones you'd be surprised how big the difference is. It isn't just some weird snake oil elitism.

u/Crow_of_War · 3 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

I've had Cherry Reds, Blues, and Kailh blue switches.

Order of recommendation

Cherry blues for the feel and durability.

Kailh blues for the sound.

I cannot recommend Cherry Reds. I HATED them. I had a Quickfire TK and while i loved the layout, I hated the Red switches. They're too soft and if you're heavy handed they will press very easily on accident. I spilled a Gin and Tonic on it the other night. Like 5 nights ago. I haven't reassembled it yet to see if it works after putting it in a dehumidifier.

My first mechanical was a Tt eSPORTS Poseidon Z but the spacebar switch stopped working so I'm in the process of desoldering all the switches on it. I'm going to get some Blacks or maybe Browns for it. Just something I haven't tried yet.

u/sip_sigh_repeat · 3 pointsr/StreetFighter

There are really only three reasons to build a stick, and short-term cost isn't one of them:

  1. Build quality. A custom stick can use an all-metal case or even wood, both of which tend to be more durable than plastics found in many popular commercial sticks.

  2. Parts. Custom sticks are generally very easy to modify, all of the hardware and PCBs can be replaced easily. Couple this with a good case and it's not uncommon for your arcade stick to last multiple generations of consoles, with just a PCB upgrade. Customs sticks allow you to use the hardware you prefer, the layout you prefer, and you can find PCBs that work on more systems than are usually available in retail sticks.

  3. It's your own. You can not only customize the art, but the look of the stick itself. The best custom sticks are amazing pieces of art in their own right when the case, art, and hardware all complement each other. Many commercial sticks you can't change the art, and even for the few where that's possible, you are still stuck with the default case.

    Because of the first two reasons, a custom stick can be a great long-term investment, since a new PCB is much, much cheaper than a new high-quality stick.

    In the short-term though, it costs as much as a high end stick, especially if your case is all-metal or other high cost solutions.

    In your case I would recommend the new Mayflash sticks, like this one or something like the Qanba Drone.

    Both sticks you could upgrade with a little work, but are in any case good starter sticks. You might find them a little small or too light, and the parts aren't the highest quality, but it's probably best to start with one of these sub $100 options, then if you are enjoying stick a lot, move to a high end sanwa stick for ~$250.
u/blaise170 · 3 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Spend $10 more and get it brand new here. At that price point, there are several boards you can get with Cherry MX Red switches for brand new.

u/zworkaccount · 3 pointsr/somethingimade

Very nicely done. If anyone is wanting one of these and doesn't want to make it themselves. I have this one and it works great. Just make sure you read the reviews.

u/-SammyP6- · 3 pointsr/Steam

even worse in canada

u/Stay-flexing · 3 pointsr/GameDeals

I was waiting for this, not for the Steamlink, but usually when the Link goes on sale the Steam controller does as well, The controller is $35 now.

u/yoimdumbsry · 3 pointsr/fightsticks

You can go as cheap as this or as expensive as this

An in-between may be this or this (larger, comes with plexi and has custom artwork capability) since you could swap the parts out with your sanwa parts pretty easily.

Another option would be this if you want the same as the F300 but with bluetooth but it'd require some cable splicing as it only has four 2pin connectors while Sanwa uses 5pin for the joystick.

u/TheSnowNinja · 3 pointsr/gaming

> but it's more satisfying to have the original controller in your hand

This is close.

This is for the purest that uses emulators.

I'd probably play old games on emulators or something these days. I still have my old SNES, but the place where the adapter plugs in is broken, so the power cuts out randomly.

I keep it for nostalgia. I think it's fun to keep some of my old toys.

u/scswift · 3 pointsr/Vive

Valve is selling their Steam controllers for $50:

Presumably they're making money on those and have marked the price up by 2x as is typical with hardware, and the Vive controllers are no more complex, so if they don't mark them up, the controllers should add only $50 to the cost of the final product.

At this point, if they could keep the price below $550 I think they'd have a winner. The Rift is $600 without controllers, and from what I can tell, without a second base station for room scale VR. And the consumer Vive will have headphones and a mic in addition to the front facing camera to allow you to safely move about your room.

All I know for sure is that their headset should be cheaper to manufacture. Whether the other stuff adds up to bring the price up to Oculus levels, or whether Oculus really did subsidize the hardware to the extreme I couldn't say for sure.

Also you're not the only engineer around here. :)

u/Snydx · 3 pointsr/thedivision

This is just my personal experience but I have never had good luck with Razer products (other people have however), and I do not like third party programs needed to get the most out of my equipment but that means you usually will not get any keyboards or mouses with extra macro buttons or anything else.

I use a Zowie mouse
and a Cooler Master keyboard
Neither require third party programs but are very basic with features.

u/omgitskae · 3 pointsr/buildapcsales

Look for 60% or 80% keyboards. 80% are also called TKL or Tenkeyless. A nice deal right now on an 80% is: for RGB

or for non RGB

Otherwise, 60% keyboards are pretty niche but you can find them on Massdrop regularly or for usually $10-20 more than Massdrop.

u/jjsreddit · 3 pointsr/buildapcsales

what is the difference between this and Are PBT Key Caps something special?

u/dankcushions · 3 pointsr/RetroPie

probably the best one. at that budget you're not getting the best feel and durability, but this one is at least moddable so you could add sanwa parts later if you wanted.

i have an unmodded version (the venom ps4 - i think it's basically the same stick) and it's fine for me.

u/p_rate · 3 pointsr/Rainbow6

Logitech G Pro on sale now. Really good mouse.

u/willaien · 3 pointsr/retrogaming

Notably, I didn't destroy a working SNES. I bought a broken one to use for the case.

Some tips:

  1. If you're going to use the front controller ports, like I did, you'll want to cut the traces. I'll post some pictures of this when I get home.
  2. The bill of materials was, essentially, an HDMI extension cable (short), USB extension cable, some hot glue, solder and a mayflash snes controller adapter which I sacrificed for this purpose.
  3. Don't be like me and hot snot the raspberry pi in such a way that the microSD card is hard to reach.
u/Wisgood · 3 pointsr/editors

Definitely not enough buttons for me on those.

Try a 18-button gaming mouse like this:
Or this:

If anyone knows of something with more buttons hmu.

It's so great to have modifiers on your thumb. Shift click drag, and then alt click ripple edits all day.

Thumb buttons:


  • Zoom in

  • zoom out


    J rewind

    L forward

    Enter render

    Shift-E (en/disable)

    Ctrl Z undo

    V (pointer)

    C (razor)

    A (track selection)

    My wheel button is set to spacebar, my dpi up arrow is Ctrl (use for paste with c and v thumb buttons), my dpi down arrow is save.

    I also use a Logitech g-13 on left hand with thumbstick mouse and mostly the same macros plus buttons for delete/paste/copy/cut/up/down/save/render/j/k/l/i/o/c/v/a/x/marker/space/

    And then some more advanced macros such as one button for (razor here, select forward, cut selection, select gap, delete gap), another the same except (razor select backward, cut, select/delete gap), and then I use (ctrl-shift-v paste insert) on the timeline above.

    Macros are awesome. Just don't get lost in button wonderland. Or do. Actually, do. It's so worth it. Wonderland is awesome.
u/scoyne15 · 3 pointsr/MMORPG

I have owned a Naga and a G600. Both are fine. But honestly I am using this $30 one now for the past year and it works great.

UtechSmart Venus Gaming Mouse RGB Wired, 16400 DPI High Precision Laser Programmable MMO Computer Gaming Mice [IGN's Recommendation]

u/memepj · 3 pointsr/Steam

They are sold physicaly and online at EBgames stores for 60$ CAD

edit: They are also on amazon 60$ CAD

u/UberJaymis · 3 pointsr/SteamController

Amazon will ship you one to Australia:

I ordered one in November and it arrived quite quickly - 13 days

It ended up costing just under $100 including shipping.

u/RainbowGoddamnDash · 3 pointsr/graphic_design

I bought one that was similar.

UtechSmart Venus

It's a knockoff of the g600.

u/nathew42 · 3 pointsr/alttpr

A snes to USB adapter might be an option.

I use the ibuffalo and it does the job. I feel like the d-pad is a bit stiff though.

u/daguil68367 · 3 pointsr/RetroPie
u/MrRado · 3 pointsr/wow

If you're not wanting a full keypad - Logitech Proteus - $50 US

If you do like full keypads - Logitech G600 - $53 US

Logitech does pretty good with their mice. While I like the Razer Naga better in use, the G600 is more durable in my experience.

That said, there's plenty of less known brands for cheaper prices that still have decent ratings such as the UtechSmart Venus - $39 US


^^- ^^prices ^^pulled ^^10/10/2018 ^^under ^^a ^^prime ^^account.

u/Jimijam_Flimflam · 3 pointsr/gaming

Just get it off Amazon. You can get Steam Link from there as well.

u/idrmyusername · 3 pointsr/battlestations
u/CarpalCripple · 3 pointsr/tf2

rip in pieces

this is a fantastic mouse if you're still looking for a new one

u/TheValx · 3 pointsr/MapleStory2

If you have or can order something like this, I think it would be pretty easy:

Set your hotkeys to the number pad along with jump and you can use mouse movement for character control. I use this control scheme with wasd movement but it could easily be modified for one handed use.

u/Newt0570 · 3 pointsr/SteamController

My left pad has this too. You can even see it on the amazon page. It's likely just a defect in the mold that makes the cross-pattern on the left pad.

amazon link

u/Jax_daily_lol · 3 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Obviously there is no "best," however, if you want a full sized mech with RGB, the ducky Shine 6 is a good option. Similar price to a K70 but better build quality. The CM Masterkeys pro L is another option that is probably cheaper and still slightly better build quality. Although corsair is definitely better than the likes of Razer, it is still priced expensively because of the brand name

u/Ophidios · 3 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Truthfully, neither.

I'd recommend the iKBC F108, the GMMK, or the Cooler Master Masterkeys Pro L, if you're looking for something full-size and RGB.

u/satyanjoy · 3 pointsr/IndianGaming

Look like a membrane keyboard to me, check Redragon K552 KUMARA

u/Frostbitten_zF · 3 pointsr/whatisthisthing

This is it! My brother bought a new mouse a little while ago, this must have come with it. It is a UntechSmart Venus MMO gaming mouse. Of course when I asked him what this thing was he had no idea... Thank you!

u/Whytefang · 3 pointsr/bapcsalescanada

Redragon has some cheap quality mechanical boards, they're not cherry switches but they're just as good as far as I'm aware.

No idea about deals on the mouse side, but the G203 is a well regarded mouse and that seems like a decent deal.

u/Luminaria19 · 3 pointsr/pcmasterrace

I have this mouse. It regularly goes on sale for $30 or so. It's not a big brand, but hasn't failed me yet (have had it for a few years now) and the extra buttons are fantastic.

He's going to have a rough time getting both a many-buttoned mouse and headset for $50 though, at least if he wants anything of quality. A good headset can run that or more on its own.

u/Holint_Casazr · 3 pointsr/EliteDangerous

Your cheapest option would be the Thrustmaster T-Flight. In your price range the Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS would be a good option.

I myself use the throttle (TWCS) of the T-16000M FCS together with a Cobra M5 because I don't like that the T.16000 stick has a lot of buttons on its base, which is annoying to me/of no use in battle. But since you are in the USA (I guess, if your budget is in $) that is not really a option for you since the Cobra M5 is a europe/russian thing it costs much more in the states than here (I got mine for sub 50$, then it is worth it).

For a higher budget the x56 Rhino can be a good option, though the quality can be questionable.

If you are still unsure about your options visit /r/HOTAS, they know a lot and can help you narrow down your choices.

u/Elementz_Reborn · 3 pointsr/LogitechG

Here is a timeline of the equipment I had in the past, during my B-line focus on funding my PC


May 2015: My first time getting a graphics card, which could run classic Doom extremely well, and allowed me to play Minecraft and some very light Skyrim, as shown


May 2016: My grandfather gave me his old Intel i3-550 PC and I got a used GTX 580 for $50. This is the first time I got to run some decent games. The Witcher 3 played at 30 fps on my 720 TV, which I captured footage of using FRAPS in August


December 2016: By then, a friend at work gave me his workstation PC, which had an FX-6200 in it. I slapped an RX 470 in the thing, replaced the CPU with an FX-8350, and had bought a bunch of new equipment, giving the old stuff to my roommate as shown. The monitor in the photo is actually my current tertiary display. This was also the first time I had premium peripherals: the G502 Spectrum and the CM MasterKeys Pro S. I went with a wireless headset: Turtle Beach Stealth 450


October 2017: Upgrade to the G910


January 2018: New secondary monitor, G440 mouse pad and G933 headset


May 2018: Best Buy had an open box PC and ultrawide monitor on sale. It's a Ryzen 5 system with an RX 580 in it. I also got a new keyboard, the G513. I had been struggling after being kicked out of my parent's house at this point, spending a couple months with my grandparents for food and shelter.


July 2018: Got my own place and mounted the old monitor


August 2018: Just style (and there's a G533 upgrade sneaking in the top-right corner)


September 2018: An old friend returns, looking sharper than ever


October 2018: Another ultrawide! 1440p this time


[some time in between]: I upgraded my GPU to the 1080Ti (used) and got a Ryzen 7 2700X just before getting my tax refund


February 2019: Glorious new speakers (G560)


March 2019: Rising desk!


May 2019: The mouse arrives and I mount my very first monitor next to my new ones

u/tbonge · 3 pointsr/Elite_Dangerous

Put the T.160000 on price watch on amazon, it often will drop in price to under $99. It was $99 last month and $89 in December.

I picked up the Thrustmaster T16000M FCS Flight Pack (comes with pedals) for $129 in January.

u/VRegg · 3 pointsr/Vive

Yes, at least for me after a few hours. Just don't push yourself and take breaks. I've logged 21 hours so far and don't get it at all anymore.

I have 1.4 set as my SS in the SteamVR ini and VR set to medium with my GTX 980. It is still grainy but I find the text fairly easy to read. Works fairly well though I can notice a little struggling in stations. Asynchronous reprojection works well for this game since it is a seated experience so make sure it is on.

If you are looking for a HOTAS system I'd recommend this one. It is newer and built with Elite Dangerous in mind with a built-in profile for it in game. I came from a Xbox 360 controller and it was well worth it.

u/TBruno09 · 3 pointsr/PSVR

It's the Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas 4 I bought it at Best Buy for about $60. Currently, EVE Valkerie Elite Dangerous and War Thunder support it. Upcoming Ace Combat 7 and I'm sure other flight based games will as well. EVE alone makes it amazing!

u/JustADingo · 3 pointsr/Vive

Here's one for $69.99

And here's one for $39.81

Haven't used either one, but I've heard they're pretty decent.

u/Panthros · 3 pointsr/hoggit

I am new to DCS, a long time flight sim nut and working on my pilot's license. I bought many of the planes (A-10C, F/A-18C, FC3 and the F-5E). I could not decide so it was better to buy them all since they were on sale lol! What I found out was the F-18 and the F-5E are the two I enjoy with the F-5E what I am enjoying most. I feel more like I am having to work more to fly it but in a good way. Fun to startup but not excessive, fun to fly and land. I think I actually like that I do not have all of the toys. The aggressors campaign for the F-5E has been fun to learn on since I also bought the Nevada map. The F/A-18C is a weapons platform, but the real joy is taking off and landing on a carrier.

I bought a cheap HOTAS as I just could not fly with the XBOX controller. It know that it is not the Warthog HOTAS (maybe Christmas 2019 now that there is the F/A-18 add-on stick), but for $70, I cannot stress how much better it is without a deep investment. I got a friend in on the game and he got the A-10C because he wants close quarters bombing and strafing runs and he bought the PS4 version of my stick and loving it.



u/JulsIII · 3 pointsr/Vive

The TM 16000 HOTAS - I use this for ED - Super awesome for the price. Most HOTAS are overpriced. This one is fantastic for the cost. TONS of buttons and neat features on the throttle you won't see anywhere else! I love the little throttle finger joystick, it makes for perfect lateral and vertical movements to mix with the joystick movements. The X52 will match the in-game model better, but honestly while in VR and doing stuff you're not going to be starring at your joystick and throttle in-game at all. Best budget HOTAS imo.

amazon link -

u/Petra_Abelli · 3 pointsr/ffxiv

I second this, I've been using the Naga for years now and don't think I would ever want to go back. Razer has had the market to themselves for a long time, but I stumbled upon these while looking for the naga and g600 links. It's good to see that there's some competition coming in the market, but I couldn't tell you if these two are worth getting.


u/Orange_Spindle · 3 pointsr/gaming

Utech smart Venus

Gaming Mouse, UtechSmart Venus 16400 DPI High Precision Laser MMO Gaming Mouse [ IGN's PICK]

I think they're good but inexpensive

u/lucentv · 3 pointsr/hotas

This just popped up in the last day. claims to launch today. Got my preorder in. Btw, that was October 2nd, originally, and those listings are on Newegg.

u/anduin2000 · 3 pointsr/starcitizen

I got an email from Amazon and also checked New Egg. Not sure what's going on.

u/Acaedus · 3 pointsr/EliteDangerous

I never played on the PC, but I have it on the XBOX. honestly, I don't think you'll be missing much. The controls are super solid, and if it doesn't quite fit what you need, you can always tweak it. I've personally never had any issues with it, in fact, I'm still using the default controls.

Also, on PS4, if you REALLY want a HOTAS, you can definitely order some for cheap. I'm debating it myself.

But all in all, the controls are super solid! I wouldn't be very worried.

Also, check out /r/ElitePS for the PS4 player of Elite!

u/STR4NGE · 3 pointsr/oculus

I got this and you can use any 360 controller with it. Great stocking stuffer.
Wireless Pc Usb Gaming Receiver for Xbox 360/xbox360 by Generic

u/LordWinslow · 3 pointsr/pcmasterrace
u/SomniumOv · 3 pointsr/oculus

I assume you mean Flight Stick and/or HoTaS by controller ?

Depends on your budget, really. The default recommendation for lower budgets is the Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X, it's the best of the very cheap stuff :

But i'd really recommend to go higher-budget and get the model above, from the same manufacturer, the Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS :

The stick is comparable, but the Throttle is a lot better.

If you're going higher-budget than that (there's really no limit to those ahAh) you should do research, /r/hotas is a good subreddit. You're likely to see a lot of recommendations for the X52 and X55 but I wouldn't really recommend them, for the price they're very plasticky, and have too high of a failure rate.

If you mean gamepad, then go with the Xbox One controller, it's fine.

u/TurquoiseLuck · 3 pointsr/GuildWars

>I'm lazy and use the mouse for 90% of my movement

That's why I have one of these:

Just use all the buttons on the side, and use WASD, c, tab, and spacebar.

u/SwammerDo · 3 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

You'd probably want something like a Cooler Master Masterkeys and then buy some thick o-rings to dampen the noise and reduce key travel.

u/PenguinJim · 3 pointsr/patientgamers

There's a new T.16000M HOTAS set now:

Not exactly a bargain, sadly, but I'll be keeping my eye out for sales.

For the cheapy Thrustmaster HOTAS, apparently the hardware in the PS4 remake is higher quality (it's not just different-colored plastic on top of the same electronics), and it gives a superior deadzone to the old PS3-compatible stick. It costs a bit more, though (can see it for $70 versus the original at $50).

u/OfficialShip2000 · 3 pointsr/flightsim

Well there's no point in spending money on a cheap stick then getting something else again. You'll like a stick for ED for sure, it's personal preference on BF and others though. I'd just get the T.160000M without the rudder pedals for $130 around Christmas. The stick already twists as a rudder axis so you don't really need rudder pedals starting out.

u/ksamim · 3 pointsr/ffxiv

Gonna echo what several other users said. My wife uses a G600, and I prefer the Redragon Perdition.

u/CountVanillula · 3 pointsr/EliteDangerous

No, they make one:
Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas 4 Flight Stick for PS4 & PC

u/foxual · 3 pointsr/MouseReview

That's a sweetspot pricepoint for LOTS of great mice. All have the latest and greatest sensors, just pick one you think would fit your hand and grip best (in no particular order):

u/nmcotton · 3 pointsr/buildapc

a lot of keyboards are branded as "gaming" but are cheap $10 keyboards with a couple bells and whistles, with a stiff premium. get him a mechanical keyboard, 100%. they can get pretty expensive, but redragon has a lot of budget mechanical keyboards that have solid feedback, a quick search returned this and this. they're the same keyboard, except the second has the numpad on the right of the keyboard. there are a lot of options from other brands, just be careful while looking to avoid the "mechanical feel" keyboards, as they aren't as durable or have as long of a lifespan.

u/DubiousEthicality · 3 pointsr/MMORPG

Redragon Perdition. I picked this up for $35 last December, intending to use it for a couple of months. It has since seen a month of playtime in FFXIV, and plenty in other MMOs. I use it every single day and can't recommend it enough.

And it's 4.5 stars on Amazon with 2.5k reviews, which is pretty crazy.

Edit: a word

u/sizziano · 3 pointsr/buildapc
u/uzuhl · 3 pointsr/MouseReview

Yeah, I can't see a use for 16.4k DPI on a mouse at all, and that's coming from someone who does use a high DPI. I usually have mine sitting at around 3500-4000 (to be fair, I don't play any FPS games). And those seem slow to me but I still wouldn't touch 16.4k.

Also, if you want painful, then here you go.

u/Jack_Vettriano · 3 pointsr/buildapcsales

A Cooler Master Pro L RGB full size with Cherry browns, for $80.

As you can see, they're not really in a rush to restock

u/skermy · 3 pointsr/flightsim

Amazon (US) has both the flight stick and flight pack on sale. Not sure if they'll go any lower.-
Flightstick: $40, down from $60
Flightstick + Throttle: $97, down from $107
Flight pack: $130, down from $160

u/DyLaNzZpRo · 3 pointsr/pcmasterrace
  • Magicforce 68.

    Excellent budget option, pretty damn nice looking, comes with shockingly good ABS keycaps (they feel great, not very thick to be expected but they're damn nice for the price), comes in either Cherry MX, Gateron, Kailh or Outemu switch variants (obviously, price varies), has 3 different colour options (black, gold and silver/white) and has a couple of different LED options (typically from what I can tell, the Cherry MX/Gateron variants have either solid white or solid blue LEDs, whereas the Kailh/Outemu variants come with blue LEDs but orange WASD/arrowkeys. Has a removable cable too.

  • 'Generic' Kailh TKL

    I say generic because there's a lot of companies taking the reference of this board and rebranding it, just changing the logo etc. It's got decent build quality, cheap as hell in terms of price, Outemu switches from what I can tell, and well, it's cheap. Overall I'd choose the Magicforce over this any day, but it's an option of course.

    Those are the main 2 I'd consider, the fullsize Magicforce is also a decent option though it's a hair below $70.
u/iamgroot91 · 3 pointsr/DotA2

Don't get a laptop if you have that budget. Try getting a good keyboard and a mouse. I use Corsair Vengence K70 Red Switches and Razor Deathadder Chroma

u/Bananacup · 3 pointsr/ReviewThis

Grab a SNES controller if you don't already have one, and get one of these. In my experience there's nothing better to play pre-N64 era games with.

u/Alvatore · 3 pointsr/EliteDangerous

Honestly, if you're going to spend money on a HOTAS just ... buy a half-decent one. Get the T16000 HOTAS package and be done with it for the foreseeable future. It's inexpensive, built relatively well for its price point (there's a video of the stick and throttle being disassembled) and reports say it performs well.

This one:

u/loomynartyondrugs · 3 pointsr/EliteDangerous

In case you ever wanna switch to the dark side, I've posted a breakdown of the current hotas situation on the vive subreddit before, lemme see if I can find it.

Found it.

The cheap end would be the T-Flight Hotas X ($50).

On the cheaper mid range side, either the Saitek x52 ($140), or the Saitek x52 Pro ($180)

On the more pricey side of the mid range I can suggest the Saitek x55/x56 ($250)

Top of the Line would be the Thrustmaster Warthog ($400)

Since then thrustmaster also released the T.16000M ($130) which as far as I know was made in communication with Frontier so it should be a pretty good fit for Elite.

u/DriveByStoning · 3 pointsr/buildapcsales

I'm not the person you responded to or a shill, but I've had this mouse for years and it's great.

u/Ophichius · 3 pointsr/Warthunder

The Extreme 3D Pro is a very entry-level stick. It will get the job done, but you need to know that you'll be replacing it in a couple years or less if you use it heavily. It's plastic-on-plastic and wears pretty fast, and it's not got the greatest precision to begin with.

The T16000M is a better entry-level stick, being both more precise and better able to stand up to wear over time.

If you can convince your dad to spring for something slightly more expensive, the T16000M HOTAS package gives you a throttle to use as well, and would mean that you could set up to acquire an affordable sim package over the next year by using facetrackNOIR or other webcam-based head tracking, plus saving up for a set of rudder pedals.

u/alconaft43 · 3 pointsr/oculus
u/Valway · 3 pointsr/oculus

Some of the higher level players swear by kb+m for pvp and combat. They play flat, but it is what it is considering. If you can get used to kb+m or controller, you'll be fine.

However this is the HOTAS I own, and I would recommend it any day. Elite has preset bindings for a good selection of HOTAS already, and this is no exception.

u/President_Bacon · 3 pointsr/paragon

The keyboard is a wired cheap one. Like $15. And the mouse is this
Redragon M901 PERDITION 16400 DPI High-Precision Programmable Laser Gaming Mouse (Black)

And I haven't noticed any lag.

u/AnxietyTuna · 3 pointsr/ffxiv

I bet it's your mouse. I have a cheap Chinese mouse (M901 Perdition) that did this exact thing a few months ago. I would enter instanced content and do the first half smoothly and then suddenly right clicking to turn my camera would cut my frames in half for a split second. You can tell it's not an issue with rendering because right clicking and turning the camera a couple degrees (not enough to cause a huge dip in FPS due to rendering) would drop the framerate by about 10-15.

Fortunately for me it fixed itself and I don't have to worry about it anymore but something that would fix it temporarily is - while FF14 is running - opening the manufacturer's mouse software tool, changing the DPI to some arbitrary value, applying it, then changing it back to my desired value. I wish I knew why this worked for me. At the end of the day it was a software incompatibility between my mouse's drivers and FF14. Didn't happen with any other games. Even ones with similar control schemes and/or higher graphical requirements.

The point of this is to offer my anecdote to hopefully dissuade you from completely ruling out your mouse as a vector for framerate issues because it happened to me and it was maddening. Get yourself a cheap mouse, see if the issue persists, and return the mouse.

u/Twister-SF · 3 pointsr/EliteDangerous

I highly recommend going over to /r/hotas for reviews and setups. But if you want a recommendation, I've heard nothing but great things about the Thrustmaster T.16000M.

u/KHEIRON · 3 pointsr/classicwow

Those mice are way nice with the 12 buttons.

Redragon M901 PERDITION 16400 DPI...

Here is the one I've used for 2 years. It is pretty cheap but really good

u/Nebulyst · 3 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

I think some versions are outemu, but when I bought it it was cherry.


u/bofstein · 3 pointsr/GirlGamers

I hate the buttons there; no matter what the design, they seem to dig unto my palm rest. I think it's because I have such tiny hands - in order to keep my fingers up at the buttons, my palm starts sooner than average (even relative to the average woman; I'm only 4'11") and so end up sitting on those middle buttons uncomfortably.

I don't usually use thumb buttons either, even for gaming, but most non-gaming mice that are less likely to have those middle buttons either aren't sensitive or durable enough for what I'm looking for. I've read through some old threads here to find mice suggestions for people with small hands, but every one I've tried still has center buttons. Or when I finally find one without, like this one, reviews say it's especially good for big hands.

I just bought this from the store, hoping a non-gaming mouse would be okay, but it just isn't smooth or good feeling, not sure if that's because of the sensitivity or the material or the wireless factor. I didn't want wireless but it was all I could find in what I was looking for that was comfortable to hold.

u/UltimateCheeze · 3 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

I would go for a redragon k552 and maybe put some nice keycaps on it.

u/keikii · 3 pointsr/ProgrammerHumor

I bought this a while back, because I needed a new mouse. The biggest selling point for me is that there are two programmable keys on it (the zoom button and the thumb spot). I have it programmed for copy and paste (I use dvorak, it can be a pain to copy and paste a lot of stuff at once), but it could easily programmed for an enter. There are plenty of other gaming mice with even more buttons, too.

u/Dime-Baggins · 3 pointsr/Guildwars2

I used to use the Corsair m95 until I found this one the "Redragon Perdition" It's badass and I've have had 3 other friends that play mmo's buy them after they tried mine. Not sure about the Mac thing though.

u/billymcguffin · 3 pointsr/starcitizen

Personally I don't think a HOTAS is required, but it is certainly more immersive and you do tend to get more granular control of your ship versus a keyboard.

Probably the best value HOTAS right now is the T16000M FCS, which is currently ~100 USD. You may also want to check out /r/hotas for more in depth advice.

u/Richard_MF_Nixon · 3 pointsr/hoggit

>What do I need in a computer/hardware to run this game optimally

Broadly speaking- A 4th Gen Intel i5 or better for the CPU. GTX 1060 or better for your Graphics. 16GB of RAM, and a Solid State Drive for storing the game on. DCS has some long loading times, and the SSD will cut them down as much as possible. For VR, the Graphics Card will manage but I recommend a GTX 1070 or above.

One problem you'll have getting a gaming PC right now is that RAM and Graphics Cards are both in short supply and supply. As such their prices have gone up quite a bit. Graphics cards doubling in price in some cases. While I would typically recommend building your own PC due to price and quality reasons, a prebuilt PC may actually be cheaper now. Make sure you ask around, both with your friend and on here before you buy one. We'll set you straight.

> I also am considering going VR with Rift for full immersion, would that require addition components and is it worth it?

Personally I think VR is absolutely worth it. I've had my Oculus Rift for nearly a year now and have put a few hundred hours into DCS with it. You can usually demo VR units in places like Fry's Electronics or other such shops. Sometimes even Best Buy. Give it a try some time. VR will come with everything you need out of the box. Except the Computer, of course.

>Any helpful input is much appreciated.

As far as other stuff, you'll need a Flight Stick and Throttle (HOTAS). I typically recommend the Thrustmaster T.16000M as a starter all-round HOTAS. It's built well, has a lot of buttons, and is precise. You could get something lower-end, but I wouldn't recommend it. If you have something particular you want to fly, other HOTAS sets might be better suited, but the T.16000M will do anything well.

Pedals are helpful but not really something I would urge you get unless you're planning on flying Helicopters. Especially the Huey. You need a good Rudder input to tame it. If I had to recommend a set for the average user it'd probably be the CH Pro Pedals Get them used though. Trust me when I say this- CH kit are built like tanks. Get them second hand from a good Ebay seller and pocket the extra cash.

If you end up deciding to go without VR, then you will need a headtracker of some sort. They work by using a camera and some software to track the position of some Infrared LEDs attached to a hat or headset, then translate that into an input in game. This lets you look around your cockpit. That may not sound like much but it's a game changer. The official product is called TrackIR5. I don't recommend you get this. While it is the easiest to set up and is perfectly good quality, it is vastly overpriced. Trackhat or Delanclip make good products. Pair that with this camera and you're good to go.

I know that's a lot of info but DCS can be a little daunting to get into, especially if you're not already versed in PC gaming. Hopefully this helped and if you have any questions feel free to PM me :)

u/SlothOfDoom · 3 pointsr/EliteDangerous

I'm using the T16000M and it has been great for the price. I find it fairly comfortable and there are lots of button options for various things.

That said, mine has had some build quality issues (which some googling has shown me is not terribly uncommon), and I have disassembled both the stick and throttle recently to unpinch wires and reset pots that have become misaligned. It can also do with a serious re-greasing right out of the box with a high quality grease, but that might just be me being picky.

u/singularity2030 · 3 pointsr/Games

This is the one I have.

And emulators are on everything now. If you want portable, you can have portable. A RetroPie setup is a good example. I have mine in a tiny NES replicable case. Or I can put them on the tablet I travel with if I want to.

u/thearchdill · 3 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards






u/StealthyNeo · 3 pointsr/hoggit

I don't wanna upset you. Unfortunately yes, you can't use your Rift controllers to control throttle/stick in DCS at the moment (not sure about future). But give it a try with a cheap HOTAS and it is a blast for sure.

I found a few joysticks for you on Amazon:

Logitech 3D Pro - refurbished

Logitech 3D Pro

Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS

Logitech X-52 Pro

Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS on DELL - the best ever HOTAS

u/JorisBoers · 3 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Yes they did, a great one so far I have tried now. Here is the amazon page.

So far I am really liking it and just got around to playing with the firmware which is a very easy to use one so far :D

u/Canuhandleit · 3 pointsr/Sketchup

This one is $36. I'm getting the Logitech G600 because it's a little less riced-out, and a bit more professional-looking, but it's also a tax write-off, so.. there you go.

u/jettivonaviska · 3 pointsr/Diablo

I used this mouse for 3 years before I replaced it (60+ hours a week use on average). It's a lesser known brand, but I've enjoyed the mouse a lot, and it's a bit cheaper than the big names (Logitech, Corsair, Razer, and the like). I know you said it takes awhile to save up money for splurges on things like this, but it might be easier to save for since it's a little cheaper. I'm glad you all enjoy your time playing the game!

u/LevelOneLion · 3 pointsr/EliteDangerous

I'm currently using the Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS and it's wonderful!

I'm not sure what is the current "best" is, but this is a great budget set up. It feels well built and is a pleasure to use. I believe this was developed with Elite in mind but should work fine with other games as well.

u/sushi_cw · 3 pointsr/EliteDangerous

There aren't a lot of cheap HOTAS options. Some things to consider:

  • T-Flight HOTAS X is relatively cheap at $50, but has relatively few buttons to work with and mediocre sensors that can make fine aiming difficult. A lot of people use it and are very happy with it though.
  • T.16000M FCS is the next step up, and although it's fairly new it seems to be getting a pretty good reception. It's over your budget at $129 though.
  • Dual joysticks is another totally viable and fun way to play, although it may take a bit more work to find a way to control all thrusters that feels natural (some people use twist for forward/reverse, some add rudder pedals, etc). There are obviously lots of possible combinations, one that works for your budget is a T-16000m combined with a Logitech Extreme 3d pro, for $95 combined.

u/creepypriest · 3 pointsr/pcgaming
u/cheekynakedoompaloom · 3 pointsr/buildapc

for someone as nontechnical as it sounds like you are, i'd buy the ssd and cut costs by using a cheap kb and mouse. instead of $110 on name brand kb and mouse spend 10-20bucks on a gaming mouse and 30ish on a generic mechanical like [this] ( they'll do the job while you save for nicer but give you most of what the more expensive option does and spend the savings on a ryzen 1600. i'd also spend a few bucks and get the case you really want, the p400 is a solid case but the s340 elite is a better total package for not much more.

mice price and mice quality are not closely linked, as long as you spend more than 10 bucks on one and avoid the stuff that seems a little too good for the price you'll find something that will serve you just as well as a fancy logitech but at 15-20bucks instead of 60+. real example, my logitech g900 is a really nice mouse but at the $90 i paid its not even 2x better than my previous cooler master recon i paid 30ish for. the extra cost is almost all down to it being a fancier brand name and that its wireless.

u/drakemcswaggieswag · 3 pointsr/buildapc

It’s honestly pretty great if you’re on a budget and don’t need a num pad. Looks nice and I’ve been using it since August with no issues

u/70KnotsCheck · 3 pointsr/hoggit

Hey man, great work for a Xbox controller! Next step is a joystick. If you're looking for some cheap ones that'll do everything you need to, the [Logitech Extreme 3D Pro] ( is the place to look, it's around $30 to $40 from most retailers, but the price also equates to lower quality, and not a bad experience but one that could be improved upon significantly. The next step up would be a [VKB Gladiator] ( A bit of a jump in price (nearly double, can be had for around $100USD +/-$25), but most reviews say it's stellar and a couple people around this subreddit love it. The $200~ price range after that is a bit iffy, as you get sub-par quality most of the time, but the [Thrustmaster T.1600M HOTAS] ( has kind of alleviated that issue. Most reviews make it out to be excellent for the price. If you've got the change, I think it'd be a great place to start. Other than that there's not much in the $300-$200 price range. In the $500-$400 price range however, there's the one and only [Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS] (, which is extremely expensive but modeled after a real A-10C and is of stellar quality. You're going to need rudder pedals if you go that route though, so I'd advise against it as it's got quite a premium to pay.

Glad you're enjoying the hobby, and hopefully you can expand to a stick soon and get even better. No pressure to get one if you're fine with the controller, but it can totally enhance your experience.

u/Blu_Haze · 3 pointsr/Vive

I'm not really sure what they're using. It honestly might even be bespoke controllers made from parts of the actual aircraft they're training for.

On the consumer side though there's several options depending on your budget. Just make sure what you choose also has a throttle as HOTAS is something I would consider a requirement for DCS.

If you're just starting out or if your budget isn't that great then in my opinion the best bang for your buck is a Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS.

The joystick is arguably the most accurate in its price range and uses HallEffect sensors which won't degrade over time like potentiometers. It's also versatile since it's also great for space games if you decide realistic flight sims aren't for you. The throttle has an analog thumbstick for newtonian physics and there's a matching left handed stick if you want to go for a HOSAS setup instead.

If you want something more substantial and plan on flying the A10C a lot then the Thrustmaster Warthog might be for you. It's more expensive but also made from all metal and is a near exact replica of the actual flight controls.

Just be aware that it doesn't have any twist stick functionality so you'll also need rudder pedals to make the most of this setup.

If you don't care what it looks like and want something in the midrange that will last forever the CH Products Fighterstick and throttle are made by a company that mainly makes joysticks for real world heavy machinery.

They know how to make something that can take a beating and keep on ticking. My only complaint is the design hasn't changed since the 90s when it was first introduced. It still uses pots instead of HallEffect, has a lower resolution, and frankly looks a bit dated to me.

Personally I use the VPC MongoosT-50 base from Virpil. It's more modular and tunable than the other options. You can completely swap out the internal camber depending on if you want a hard center, something softer, or even none at all. You can also change the tension of the springs without having to mod it as well.

The best part though is the different grips. The main grip they offer is modeled after Russian aircraft but if I'm flying something else I can just swap it out. When I want to run CAS in an A10C I bought a separate grip from the Thrustmaster Warthog and it just screws right on to the VPC base.

u/Joker-FA · 2 pointsr/battlestations

It's actually a very affordable mechanical keyboard called the Red Dragon K552

u/PoliteBrit225 · 2 pointsr/HardwareSwapUK
u/TinBe2000 · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Right now on Amazon there are a few MagicForce Keyboards out there right now for like $63 USD. Looks like the right board for you! If you're looking for a black board instead of a white one, then here is another link! If you are looking for a TKL/60% I would go for that. If you want a full size I'm not entirely sure, but I have heard of some floating around. Maybe not around your budget though.

EDIT: I found the full size board that has Gateron Brown! It's a fullsize with red LED. Plus you can change it to whatever switch you want if you're starting to dislike browns.

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u/JustSayinTheTruth · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Hey, pretty big noob when it comes to keyboard knowledge, hope someone can help me out.

I'm looking for a mechanical keyboard up to 35€ (+5€). So far I have 2 keyboards in consideration:

First one

Second one, It's also on the frontpage bought by a user

Open to any suggestions!

u/MonochromaticPanda · 2 pointsr/battlestations

I think this is the one. I have the same one and I love it.

Redragon K552 KUMARA LED Backlit Mechanical Gaming Keyboard (Black)

u/intrepped · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Cheapest to most expensive recommendations:

Tomoko 87/104: $35.99 and $42.99 respectively

MagicForce 68: $39.99 with Kaihl Switches

Drevo Gramr: $39.99 with Outemu switches (iirc)

Magic Force 68 with Gateron: $62.99

MagicForce 108 with Gateron: $69.99

Rosewill RK9000V2 with Cherry: $74+/-

Oh and the Anne Pro which you can get for about $70 with Gateron switches. Also check mech market where many boards go for under $50 regularly.

u/OG_Clayster · 2 pointsr/keyboards

I have a redragon k552 red backlit keyboard with cherry mx blue equivalent switches, been using it for a year and it works great for me, if you don't mind the clickyness that is :)

u/helladudehella · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

I think this is it

Would also check out the Corsair k63 if you like this one.

u/Huskyus · 2 pointsr/AnimalCrossing
u/NagamosKhanamos · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

The one you picked out is solid, I also recommend you check out the MagicForce 68 with Gateron Browns. It's really nice!

u/Professor_Fister · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Such are the costs of the Massdrop discount. Amazon does have it at $63.

u/MilesZS · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

I'm typing on a Magicforce 68 right now. If you don't need a full keyboard, it might be a good option. Here, check this out.

u/gmcalabr · 2 pointsr/fountainpens

Fucking damnit. That didn't take long. You were right:

The bug bit me quick. In the last 24 hours, I've researched Cherrys vs. offbrands, Outemu blues and Gateron browns, tried a Razer green set and Logitech proprietary linears at Best Buy, asked around, found lots of cool keycaps, tried to see how much it would be to buy a case and chipboard and switches and balancers and caps all separately, noped the fuck out of that, and settled on this:

with these:

Wait, how did I justify $93 when $40 is nearly as good on it's own?

And why do I want these so bad?

u/bkh555 · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

I also recommend getting the tenkeyless version of the Redragon. Unless you want a numpad, tenkeyless is cheaper, and looks much better. Also, if you have the money, the RX 480 is a much better budget card than the 950 im sadly using right now.

Edit: Just realized that the keyboard is NOT mechanical. I highly recommend getting a mechanical keyboard instead of a membrane.

That is a cheap, and very good budget mechanical keyboard that i would look into

u/Miner_asian · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Not sure what the conversion rate is, but this is about the most inexpensive compact keyboard I could find that isn't going to crap out on you within a week.

u/CheeseRat12 · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

This and maybe O-rings to dampen bottom out sounds.

u/dontlazerme · 2 pointsr/hardwareswap

Hey man! Check this keyboard out. Ive had it for little over a month. I needed a 60% also to replace my razer blackwidow. ultimate. This is an amazing keyboard for the price. I have no complaints at all!

u/RedGreatApe · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

hmm not quite

my bad! I said bottom, I meant underside.

you can see it in the last picture, on the left side

u/Garfield131415 · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

This is a different model. The model I have is the white LED with Gateron brown switches. This model you have linked has Kailh black switches. I didn't choose that one because of the switches.
This is the one I have:

I have seen some review of that type though. Those colours are locked. So the WASD and arrows keys are always orange, and the others are blue.
Mine has white leds.

u/mithikx · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Probably a MagicForce 68 (sold under Qisan on Amazon) or one of the DREVO brand keyboards (your choice of which one takes your fancy). Both brands have models in both black and white and ship with Prime shipping off of Amazon.
The MagicForce 68 is probably the most popular recommendation for an entry level MK.

Qisan's keyboard store page
DREVO's store page

Other models on Amazon that you might want to check out: (note these don't seem as popular as the MagicForce or DREVOs)
Redragon K552 KUMARA
TOMOKO 87 Key LED Backlit Mechanical Gaming Keyboard
E-Element Z-88
E-Element Z-88 (full sized)
Ajazz Firstblood Geek RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard
Velocifire TKL01
Velocifire VM01

edit: links

u/Supahvaporeon · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

An RGB Red Dragon Kumera and a Logitech G602 are what I suggest.

I'm using my Kumera now, and love it, and used my G602 for years before I sent it to my BF a few months ago. The battery on the mouse was so good, it was turned on in shipping, got lost, and still was on when my BF got it and opened the package.

You can also get the plain red backlit Kumera for ~$30.99 here if you don't want to fork over an extra $12 for RGB.

u/Soulstripper14 · 2 pointsr/speedrun

Yeah, thats basically what a capture card does, as for the snes controller, you would have to buy an adapter but it also super easy to set up an xbox controller if you have one and dont want to buy an adapter. And dont worry we were all new at some point. :D

u/chromaticf0am · 2 pointsr/macsetups

It's the Magicforce 68, i have two and swapped the black keycaps onto the silver board. Matches the finish much better than the white keycaps.

u/gyar6178 · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace
u/SomeTechNoob · 2 pointsr/buildapc

As pretty as the case is, it has shit airflow. Consider adding more fans, especially intakes.

The rest of the build looks pretty good though.

As for monitor, kb, and also assuming mouse:

Monitor: 144hz 1080p for sure. This one is pretty good:

For a keyboard, consider grabbing a cheap mechanical. If you don't need a numpad, this will do the trick for the time being:

Best budget mouse. Great sensor and clicks. It is a bit on the small side so keep that in mind:

u/clickstops · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Magicforce 68 for sure. Gateron blue brown or yellow. Blue = clicky and loudish. Brown = tactile but not clicky and medium quiet. Yellow = totally linear meaning no bump pushing the key down, quiet.

u/acezone · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

try the Redragon K552 KUMARA $39.99 or EagleTec KG010 $49

u/oblixxn · 2 pointsr/FortniteCompetitive
u/_Arion_ · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

There's the Amazon link.

And here's the Keycap link to the caps I've got.

The keycaps aren't necessary, just wanted. Soooooo, your choice if you get those or not.

u/embryjj · 2 pointsr/AverageBattlestations

Redragon K552 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard Compact 87 Key Mechanical Computer Keyboard KUMARA USB Wired Cherry MX Blue Equivalent Switches for Windows PC Gamers (Black RED LED Backlit)

Very happy with it. Especially at that price.

u/xStreame · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

I just checked for you and even the cheaper ones are more than double of the price of the RedDragon, so I guess those are out of the question for you

u/Milicona · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

I'd personally stay away from razor, their products don't tend to last long before running into issues, and they are overpriced as well.

Go with a different brand like Logitech or corsair. For your typing experience it really comes down to the types of switches for the keys. Red switches are considered by many to be the best for gaming, blue switches are stiffer and provide a better typing experience in my opinion but work fine for games as well but are a bit noisier. Brown switches are the loudest, and should probably only be used for typing.

So in my opinion, go with a mechanical keyboard from any company other than razor that uses red or blue switches.

This seems like a good choice, unless you need a number pad.

u/Frawtarius · 2 pointsr/buildapc

I've never gotten this question, and I've never really outright asked. What is a "gaming keyboard" for you guys? Is it snazzy lights? A cool logo?

You can get pretty much anything beyond a specific logo on any non-gaming keyboards. You can get media controls on pretty much any keyboard, more or less. You can get non-gaming keyboards full-sized, or TKL with a separate numpad, or a 60% and learn to use Function layers more (which is what I do, and have done, for a while, for both gaming and other functionality on a computer). You can get RGB lights on keyboards that aren't designated as "gaming" keyboards (though, admittedly, these are mostly custom keyboards, as mass-produced, mainstream, ready-made keyboards are usually designated "gaming" keyboards when they have RGB lights).

The only thing I'd recommend you look out for is to make sure it has mechanical switches, because their lifespan is much longer (than typical rubber domes on most keyboards). Mechanical keyboards last years upon years upon years, and the switches can be replaced individually (should they fail) if you're up to open the keyboard's case; on the flipside, if you want a snazzy "gaming(TM)" keyboard, then those very often see early failures in the individual LED lights that make up the RGB lighting, which are far more failure-prone.

tl;dr: Pretty much any good keyboard is also a good gaming keyboard, because good keyboards are defined by their switches and their durability; media controls aren't really used in gaming anyway, and are usually substituted with Function layer keys anyway.

Also, looking around Canadian Amazon, I realized 150 CAD is a bit less than I thought (seeing as I'm used to dealing with pounds and euros), but you could just get something like this, which is at a very reasonable price (though I haven't used this keyboard myself). On the flipside, I would warn you against keyboards like this one, which say they use "Cherry MX Blue Equivalent" switches, because the "equivalent" - especially when they don't name the switch and just say it's "Custom mechanical switches" - usually means they're some really low-quality switches, and you might find them not being nearly as durable, and feeling really weird and mushy right out of the box.

For other alternate options, you could consider this one, or something like this, if you don't care about RGB lights (because it has a few less noticeable (but more useful, in my opinion) features, like double-shot PBT keycaps, which take much, much longer to wear out and develop a "shine" on the keys; and a USB type-C connector, which is really just more convenient and more durable than the old(er) microUSB or whatever other connector a given keyboard has). It has a Space Grey colour option as well.

At the end of the day, all you need to really consider is the size of the keyboard (which you can make a bit easier for yourself by getting a separate numpad, should you really need one), the switches (which will change how the keys feel when you press them down), and programmability (i.e. whether the keys can all be re-binded or not). Everything else is tertiary, and mostly just vanity.

u/lesziii · 2 pointsr/keyboards

As long as you don't mind 87-Key Keyboards, maybe have a look at Redragon's selection.

This is a daily driver under my budget board options.
Redragon K552:

Keycaps are widely interchangeable if that's something you want.
Outemu Blues are the switches in the K552. I own several Cherry MX Blue switch boards, I've come to prefer Outemu Blues over Cherry MX Blues, but this is only my opinion.
They're a little more tactile than Cherry's options.

If you're wanting an authentic Cherry MX Blue feel, the second board I prefer if I want a Cherry switch is from HyperX. This is another 87-Key.
HyperX Alloy FPS Pro:

Another great option and for the Cherry feel it's arguably one of the more cheaper options.
A little more on the gamer oriented side, with lower priced boards this is to be expected. I'd definitely suggest this to a gamer looking for a budget board that's not gonna wear them out on the MX Blue typing experience that fast.

Hopefully this has been of use to you, good luck!

u/t0rk · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

As has already been said, Magicforce 68 is a good place to start. Gateron brown is a pretty good switch, and definitely the one I would recommend to start on. There are others that are less expensive, but it is a good middle-ground of cost and quality. Comes in white or black.

u/BangkokPadang · 2 pointsr/gaming

This is absolutely the best way I've found to play most Indie Games like Shovel Knight, Super Meat Boy, VVVVV, etc. I also use this method when emulating NES/Gameboy/SNES/GBA/etc.

I love it. I have 8 SNES controllers stored in zip-lock bags so I'll always have a good gamepad.

This is the best SNES->USB Adapter I've ever used. I tried a couple, and have used one for Wii as well. Every other one I tried but this one had problems. Most only recognized 2 or 3 button presses at a time, and one in particular (the one for wii) seemed to not only have terrible lag, but seemed to miss button presses all the time. It felt like it was maybe only checking for inputs maybe 30 times a second, and if you pushed the button in between when it was "checking" for button presses, it missed it.

This adapter is the Mayflash brand SNES -> USB adapter, and has 2 inputs in one device, so it is perfect even for local multiplayer gaming. I bought mine on for @ $8.00 US, and they seem to sell for @ $12.00 US now. It would honestly be worth $30 or $40 US.

It can be purchased from here.

I use a mac. I dual boot into windows for a few games, but due to the wonderful market GOG and the Humble Bundle have cultivated, most indie games come out for mac. So, I spend 90% of my time in OSX, and do almost 100% of my gaming in OSX as well. (Until the Oculus Rift comes out, anyway ;-p )

If you, too, use a Mac for most of your gaming, then let me introduce you to the greatest thing for setting up awesome, fluid, game controls OSX has to offer. Controller Mate.

Controller Mate allows you to map any USB Device/Keyboard/Midi Device, etc. to any function, in any program, based on any condition. If the function isn't built in, then you can build it using timers, input counters, axis measurements, etc.

For this application I simply remap each input to the corresponding keyboard key, such as up, down, left, and right arrows as well as the A,B,X,Y,L, and R buttons. I map Start to Enter, and Select to Tab.This makes most games show me the correct buttons instead of generic USB terms such as "button 1" or "button 2."

These mappings are also set to only apply when a particular list of programs is running. This allows me to have multiple keyboard mappings for multiple games, and never have to manually switch between them.

I cannot recommend this program enough. It is a must for any mac gamer, and blows any other keyboard remapping programs out of the water.

It is available fromOrdered Bytes' Website for @ $25.00 US. I got my copy on sale a few years ago for $15.00 US, but it is honestly worth double what they charge for it. I have it controlling not only my games but a bunch of software on my system. It is indispensable.

u/The5thHorseman666 · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

I bought a redragon mechanical keyboard for $40 shipped yesterday. Looks decent for the price should be in tommorow. Not sure if Amazon Europe sells it or not

u/2flyguy · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

The TOMOKO 87 Key Mechanical Keyboard looks pretty promising

If you could spare a couple more bucks
I recommend Redragon K552 KUMARA LED Backlit Mechanical Gaming

u/wilder782 · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards
u/Coffinspired · 2 pointsr/buildapcforme

> Keyboard: Cheapest tenkeyless keyboard with Cherry MX Red switches.

For whatever it's worth /u/grantthecreator - you could scrape $20+ off that Cherry MX Keyboard by going with one of those generic/knockoff TKL boards. They're everywhere, including Amazon w/ Prime.

If a budget was stopping you from a substantial CPU/GPU "tier jump" (I see you stretched for the 3800X), I would probably try to find that "loose change" elsewhere in the build and apply it there. In this particular build, I'd DEFINITELY try to find the few bucks for the 2060 Super over the OG 2060.

And so on...there are tons of them.

I have over a year's worth of personal experience with one ("EagleTac" TKL w/ fake Blues from Amazon) on my GF's rig. She works from home often, types for school, and games on it - it gets used. It's still good as new - both the switches and lights. I've used it for typing and gaming and think it's absolutely fine. I was/am quite impressed with it for under $30.

If my reference point in PC's matters - I'm on higher-end stuff (2080 + dual 34" 21:9's - AW3418DW) and have been exclusively using Cherry MX's for years in K65/K95/Pok3r's...

u/_RexDart · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

But it is

u/hukelabets · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Redragon K552 KUMARA LED Backlit Mechanical Gaming Keyboard (Black)

I had this kb for about a year. I had blue switches and they were very clicky and clacky. Kb is also very solid and has a nice weight to it. Would still be using it if i didn't give it to my brother when I upgraded!

u/Xbooow59 · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

i actually just got a g810 in the mail, took it out of the box and tried typing on it, it is god awful. i hate it, they keys feel mushy and hard to type on, i've used $27 dollar keyboards that type better. as for lighting, i didn't get that far./ it's going back to amazon. lol

edit: the one i have at work, types really well for the price, no back lighting, low actuation force(relatively; around maybe about 65g)

anyone have any recomendarions on a keyboard? looking to spend about $100, ideally one with rgb (or blue backlighting, trying to match my newsy rebuilt gaming rig) i like blue style keys, light actuation and the click and bump. louder the better.
here's what i have now

u/Pontius_Pilot_ · 2 pointsr/buildapcsales

Do you know if you like blue style switches? If you have a Microcenter near you you can test the switches out.

IMO, blue style and brown style are the most "normal." I have Cherry MX browns in mine and I love it. When I tested the blues, I liked them as well, however, I wasn't a fan of the click sound.

Having never had this keyboard, $20 isn't a bad intro, but I wouldn't expect much. It would be a good way to see if you like mechanical keyboards or not.

Here's one that's been recommended by Linus for $30.

Round-up review of cheap mechanical keyboards by Linus.

Edit: Another $30 keyboard on Amazon

u/Rikuli · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace
u/sudo_rm_keyboard · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

The Magiforce (with browns) is highly recommended as an entry level TKL keyboard. It's also available with Gateron Switches instead.

u/lumpiestspoon3 · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

How good is this Redragon mech keyboard? My friend is planning on buying one when he builds his PC, and he's mostly concerned about the switch quality.

u/Isaksme · 2 pointsr/Keyboard

According to r/mechanicalkeyboards Magicforce usually makes good budget keyboards. This one, in particular, has gateron brown switches and good reviews. The brown switches have a small tactile bump so you can feel when the switch actuates but there is no click.

I'm not really sure how to solve your backspace problem and I am in the same situation but I don't really mind. One solution might be to rebind your backspace to the key under that. I use a Swedish keyboard so i don't know what that key is.

I suggest posting this on r/mechanicalkeyboards instead if you haven't already done so because they know 1000x more about keyboards than me.


u/Chemtox · 2 pointsr/GameDeals

A quick analysis of previous deals tells me that it will last... less than a month, most probably.

As for someone knowing exactly how long, well, I would venture that not even Amazon nor Valve know that, judging by the same data sample. Pretty sure they are using advanced American Economics.

u/stegosaurus32 · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Any switches are good for anything if that's what you like. I game with blues and have no issues, but certain companies will try to push different switches as being better for gaming. Browns have a bump, but no click. The Magicforce 68 is very much recommended here (I have one myself), and they are available with Gateron switches.

u/1topclique · 2 pointsr/SteamController

WTF LOL. Ok checking it for me, first distributor with prime availability is $84 but very limited supply. Going up to $130 for other options (I'm US btw).

Drastically different from when Amazon had that $30 sale last year huh... Also Gamestop's new copy was $48 ($51 after tax), with their used copies around $35(Amazon's used are around $50+). When Gamestop has the most reasonable prices compared to everyone else something is definitely UP.

u/bunnyfromdasea · 2 pointsr/OverwatchUniversity

You still get the F1-12 keys you just have to use the Fn key in conjunction with the 1-10 keys and the - and = keys. The key caps feel fine, not amazing or anything but I didn't feel as though they were bad.

Also this is the exact one that I have:

I think the only difference is that this one has a white backlight and is black.

u/nbonne · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Just picked up a Qisan/Magicforce board with Gateron browns for $63.

First mechanical keyboard. I've had it for all of two days now.

Initial thoughts:

  • Why did I not at least go try a mech board sooner?
  • This 68 key layout will take a little getting used to.
  • The Gateron browns have a wonderfully satisfying bump.
  • Little board flex
u/DivineZephyr · 2 pointsr/Stepmania

Looks like a Magicforce 68

u/gindawn · 2 pointsr/ffxiv

I needed a new headset and found this, though this was also very shiny.

Each physical product $20+ in the Video Games section has a chance of the FFXIV promo showing up under "Special Offers and Product Promotions" near the bottom of each product page.

u/anthchapman · 2 pointsr/GameDeals

I don't know, but Amazon do and have the same price (plus $8.67US for shipping one of them which will take "9-12 business days").

u/Dr_Potatoo · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

This if you can wait for MIR.

u/MainHaze · 2 pointsr/gaming

The remotes really make all the difference in the world. I picked up one of these and use my original SNES gamepads for emulators now. Feels great!

I would have gone with this though, had I known about it and waited a bit. The wires on my set up are kind of tedious.

u/ehock · 2 pointsr/theindiebox

I can't really recall them ever making new runs of any of their products. The item page is probably still there to show buyers the types of things they have sold in the past.

But are you interested in the Towerfall controller because you want a SNES-esque controller, or because you actually want this specific item?

If it's just a USB SNES controller you're after, there are many cheap alternatives to find online. Or you can even get an adapter like this and use a real SNES controller.

u/candre23 · 2 pointsr/raspberry_pi

SNES would be ideal, since the SNES gamepad was probably the pinnacle of game controller design. Wire up one of these internally, and you're good to go.

u/lambda26 · 2 pointsr/RetroPie
u/Jordan1719 · 2 pointsr/FortniteCompetitive

I don't have a razer naga but I do have a keyboard suggestion try the Redragon K552. It's one of the best budget mechanical keyboards on the market. There's difference versions, but the red backlit one is only $30 but you can spend a couple more for full RGB. Plus it's a smaller keyboard like tfue's

u/Stubrochill17 · 2 pointsr/Steam

Seems to be correct.

Get Two Free Games with Purchase
Customers who purchase any Steam Hardware (Steam machine, Link, Controller) will receive 1 copy of of Counter-Strike: Global Offensive and 1 copy of Left 4 Dead 2. This will be sent to customers via a bounceback code which can be redeemed on Steam. Offer applies only when shipped and sold by Amazon. Available while supplies last. Amazon reserves the right to change or terminate this promotion at any time.

u/oOoWTFMATE · 2 pointsr/hardwareswap

Steam Controller is $35 shipped with Prime on Amazon right now and includes a free case so you may want to consider lowering your price.

u/PanicHouse · 2 pointsr/Steam

So is the
Steam Controller for 34.99 USD

u/ToonsAndCereal · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

This is a beautiful RGB TKL board (uses KBT brown switches, which are solid MX Clones) Well-reviewed and great for the price.

I would also recommend Coolermaster S:

Ducky One RGB:

u/HoardOfPackrats · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Can you buy from I think you have to pay about $10 for shipping, but eh.

Edit for link: Steam controller on Amazon

u/NotABrownCar · 2 pointsr/gaming

An overlooked part of the equation is a mouse pad. The joke about tryhards buying giant mousepads is not unfounded. Lower sensitivity is a good idea in most games and with a small mouse pad you'll find yourself running out of room too often. Buy a giant Steel Series QCK mousepad IMO.

Other than that buy something with the tried and true MX switches. Razer has gone to their own proprietary switch and there's nothing to suggest they're better and everything to suggest it was a cost cutting measure. Reds or browns are going to be best for FPS games IMO. Tenkeyless will allow you to better accommodate the giant mouse pad and not have your left arm/hand in an uncomfortable spot.

Mice are much more subjective. Figure out how you grip the mouse (palm/claw/fingertip) and start looking based off that. Laser vs. optical is a contested topic and in general you probably won't find a huge difference. The Logitech G Pro ( is generally regarded as having a top tier sensor and is reasonably priced. That's what I would buy if I had to buy a new mouse today.

u/AE0NIXZ · 2 pointsr/LogitechG

Logitech G Pro Wireless

Amazon Link

Highly recommended.

Changed my work life + at home with being able to set macros, I literally bring it everywhere with me in my backpack.


Also, the wireless, works like a charm, lasts 4-5 solid use w/ RGB, storable receiver slot underneath so you never lose it, clean ergonomic design!


Let me know if you have any questions.

Happy to help.

u/Xathroz · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

I have my eye on the CM MasterKeys Pro S as my first mechanical keyboard but I'm having second thoughts because:

  • I see some reports of bad QC.

  • The atypical bottom row. I don't know how much of an issue this is

    Mainly because in the other thread people were saying brown switches were not that enjoyable and they would prefer MX clears instead. I've never tested any mech switch, and I heard reds are the way to go for gaming but brown was suggested often too. Is there an alternative that fits my needs? Gaming and browsing is pretty much all I do on this PC, I don't need to write long documents etc.

    I would like:

  • TKL for extra desk space/ mouse space

  • n-key rollover

  • RGB with individual key colors (or at least backlit)

  • budget €100-150

  • available in Europe

  • gaming oriented switches. I play mainly twitch games like MOBA and FPS, so every keystroke counts. I've lost team fights because my keypress wasn't registered. Reds/clears/browns? What do most people prefer?

    Right now I'm using a Cherry model G86-22200 and I'm ready for the next step.

    Thanks :)
u/peachey777 · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

My wife just got me one of these for Christmas. You already need to own the controllers though

u/omarkrostom · 2 pointsr/macbookpro

Redragon K552 RED LED Backlit Mechanical Gaming Keyboard Small Compact 87 Key Metal Mechanical Computer Keyboard KUMARA USB Wired Cherry MX Blue Equivalent Switches for Windows PC Gamers - Black

u/JD2Chill · 2 pointsr/MouseReview

Some recommendations.
Ambidextrous mouses
Dream Machines DM1 FPS - Have heard good things about these mouses. Haven't used one personally but would not be against one if I was looking to try something different than what I already have.
Zowie FK series - Difference between the FK1, FK1+ and FK2 are just size.
Logitech G Pro - Personally I prefer the original over the new version with the Hero sensor because I like the PMW3366 better than the Hero16K but most people state they can't notice the difference. Also, original is pretty cheap right now.

Ergonomic mouses
Zowie EC series - Users report having issues with the scroll wheels on the B models (EC1-B,EC2-B) but that seems to be hit or miss. I have an EC2-B that I love and have no issues with. The B models have a newer sensor than the A models. B models have the PMW3360 sensor.
Logitech G403 - Great sensor (PMW3366) and fairly light at just over 87 grams.

You will probably notice these are some of the most popular mouses on this subreddit, haha. Take my recommendations with a grain of salt and do your own research as well. Hope this helped in any way!

u/RK_ArKane · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

I was bouta put in before i reread the thing bc i thought it said “I am a huge red dragon fan bc of the logo” lol i’m dumb

u/GargoorBond · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Redragon K552 RED LED Backlit Mechanical Gaming Keyboard Small Compact 87 Key Metal Mechanical Computer Keyboard KUMARA USB Wired Cherry MX Blue Equivalent Switches for Windows PC Gamers - Black

u/reddystone · 2 pointsr/singapore

Amazon has much more variety.

u/Deja-Intended · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

My suggestion is the Logitech G305 for $10 over your budget, but it's got the best wireless sensor on the market. It isn't gamerized by any means and you can add macros to the side buttons if that's what you want. I really like the scroll wheel as well, it's rubberized and textured with distinct steps that aren't too tactile.

For a cheaper wired version, the Logitech G203 is the same mouse only it's using the gold-standard wired sensor. It has RGB, but you can turn it off. Other than that, it has the exact same features and shape.

A friend of mine bought the CM Devastator, but that was like 3 years ago and I don't remember what the mouse felt like(if the scroll wheel was mushy in comparison), but either of these are a lot better.

Granted, I'm using a G Pro which is yet another of the same style, it's just a little older and more expensive than the G203.

u/Camogaming_RealWood · 2 pointsr/csgo

So when it comes to buying a mouse it is really all about your play style and feel. If you like to palm the mouse meaning that your whole hand is round the mouse a good mouse is the Razer Deathadder If you like the claw grip using mostly only your finger tips than I would recommend the Logitech G Pro I personally now use this mouse but used the Deathadder for a number of years. Both mice have over a 12,000 dpi setting once you install the software you can adjust as you please, but tbh most likely you will play between 200-900 dpi and 1.2-3.2 sensitivity in game. All of this is preference and you will figure out over a long period of time playing key board again is all preference it depends if you like silent of mechanical Razer Cynosa is a very nice silent one in your price range, for mechanical I have owned a lot of them and tbh the one I use is a off brand one I bought from my local Walmart and and I like it more than any high dollar ones I have owned so you might want to look there. Also you will need a nice mouse pad I have and will probably continue to use for years the razer goliaths speed it is cloth and I like it, there are also hard pads many people I know use and enjoy the Corsait MM8800 but again this is all up to preference. Last thing if you are trying to play at any high lvl of competition you might want to look into a 144hz monitor if your computer can run what ever game you are playing over about 200fps I have Acer 24inch 144hz the price is really good and makes a huge difference. well that is about all I can think about I wish you the best of luck and above all just have fun.


u/Qweasd11 · 2 pointsr/Games

Probably bought it through Amazon.

u/holyteach · 2 pointsr/Games
u/MyCatEdwin · 2 pointsr/GameDeals

While gmessad's recommendation is great, I would say the Steam Controller is a super solid choice too. If you can wait a bit, GameStop and Amazon have deals on them pretty often. If you have basically any existing PC gamepads you'll be fine while you wait.

If you don't mind used (my controller has been indestructible the year and a half I've had it), Amazon has a used one with Prime for $35

u/tadpolebilly · 2 pointsr/WidowmakerMains

There is no correct sensitivity when it comes to playing a certain hero or playstyle. It's all personal preference and how much practice you have put into the hero and game. I have known players who are very good at aiming with both extremely high and low sensitivities. Of course, if you are setting your sensitivity for the first time like you just picked up a mouse, I would say set it to where a full span across your mousepad will do a 360. (With no acceleration. Make sure you turn that off. If your mouse has that on automatically, get a new one.) From there, you have to test yourself to see if you are over/undershooting, or you think it just feels incorrect. In the case where you have a small mousepad and bad mouse. Investing in a good mouse would probably be worth the money. You can find the best mouse for your handshape and grip which will probably turn up the best results. (RJN has a good website for easily finding it.) Or, if you are on a budget, there are nice mice which you can find for about $50 - assuming you are in the USA or can order from amazon easily. (Here a few options. Razer Deathadder, CORSAIR Harpoon, Logitech G Pro, one of my favourite mice, seriously.) If your mousepad feels like a problem, you can get one that fits your whole desk lengthwise. You don't have to get a big name brand or anything, just one that has decent quality.
Good luck with your games.

u/Kareem_Jordan · 2 pointsr/Linux_Filmmaking

I don't use this device, but I've been toying around with using a steam controller to the same effect. I haven't mapped all the shortcuts to the way I want them, and it did take a little time to find my groove.

Here's a video example.

Here's the config file.


Here's a demonstration of the Shuttle pro.

You might require this code.

Here's a longer explanation.

u/moviuro · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

$35 for the Steam Controller:

I don't think you can go wrong.

And if budget is really an issue, go wired.

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u/BodSmith54321 · 2 pointsr/buildapc

Mechanical keyboard for under $35

u/RaptorUTO · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace
  1. If possible build a PC as macs are terrible at gaming.

  2. X360 Controller

    3.Steam Controller

    I use the 360 controller with platform games and love it!
u/JJReklaw · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

I would find a good mouse you like, so you aren't using a touch pad. I highly recommend the new logitech mice that have their new sensor. I personally have never used a mouse with a better sensor. Any of these three mice are good. I recommend the logitech g pro if you don't know what preference in style you have for your mouse. It's pretty close to what you would be use to in standard mice.

Make sure you download steam for all your gaming needs. There are alternatives, but since you are newer to PC I highly recommend using steam as your main platform. Also they are having an awesome winter sale right now! Perfect time to pick up games at super cheap.

I highly recommend turning off "enhanced pointer precision" which is normally turned on by default on windows machines.

I would also ensure that your computer is using the "balanced" power save option.

I recommend getting good, preferably free, anti-virus. Everyone has their own preferences. I use Avast. Just avoid McAfee.

Picking up a new browser, so you don't use internet explorer, is a good idea. I recommend google chrome because it has enough built in features where you don't need to be "in the know" to get what you need out of it.

If you do pick up google chrome, you should pick up an add blocker for it as well. Blocks advertisements everywhere and stops you from having to watch advertisements at the beginning of youtube videos.

And to wrap it up I'd download the launcher from blizzard. Blizzard has lots of very good games, like overwatch, hearthstone, wow, etc.

I personally use a program called f.lux which makes your monitor more friendly for your eyes at night. It makes it easier to fall asleep after being on your PC late at night. I highly recommend using this if you game at night.

Now just find some games you want to play. Here are some of the most popular games on PC(based on players playing the game at the moment). That I would recommend. Everyone has their own preferences, and sorry if I'm explaining this like you know nothing. I'm not sure what information you are looking for exactly or your knowledge level.

Battle Net Games

Overwatch(Multiplayer PVP focus - fantastic FPS highly recommend)

Hearthstone(free to play card game - if you like trading card games play this!)

Steam Games

Skyrim(Single Player)

Witcher(Single Player)

Total War: WARHAMMER(Strategy Game)

Civilization 6(Strategy Game)

Terraria(2d Minecraft)

Paladins(PVP Free to play game)

Path Of Exile(Free to play Diablo2 like game)

Rust(Multiplayer Survival game)

Ark(Multiplayer dinosaur survival game)

Stardew Valley(Top down run your own farm RPG game, think Harvest Moon)

Dark Souls 1,2,3(Hardcore mostly singleplayer action RPG)

War Thunder(Free to play WW2 plane/tank PVP game, multiplayer)

Binding of Isaac: Rebirth(roguelike, top down like old zelda games - highly recommend this game)

Cities: Skylines(better version of Sim city)

Rainbow Six Siege( tactical FPS pvp, multiplayer)

Stand Alone Games That Don't Use A Launcher


League Of Legends

League Of Legends is one of the most played games in the world, competing against overwatch. It is called a MOBA, you've probably heard of it, and it's at least worth checking out if you have a friend to play with.

edit: Also finding a headset is very important, I always point to HyperX headsets if you need a microphone to talk to people. They are comfortable, sound good, and won't break the bank. If you don't need a mic just pick up a nice pair of sennheiser headphones. Also sorry for any grammar issues and just the wall of text. I just started typing and kept going. If you have any questions feel free to ask, hope you like your pc!

u/frank_n_bean · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

The CM Quickfire Rapid is a TKL that has MX Browns, no backlighting, and fits into your budget, not to mention it being a very high quality board. Here's an Amazon link.

CM also makes a similar RGB board that's a bit newer, though I'm not sure if there's any actual PCB or controller improvements. The Masterkeys Pro S has the same functionality of the Rapid, though it's currently sold out on Amazon. They can usually be found around $100 if you'd prefer to wait for it to come back in stock.

u/larsiusprime · 2 pointsr/Games
u/MAGNIF1CNT · 2 pointsr/keyboards

Try to find a Cooler Master Masterkeys Pro S RGB. solid board with cherry MX switches and in your price range.

amazon link

u/Dintri · 2 pointsr/oculus

Just bought the ps4 one at best buy today

The hotas x seems to be the more popular option but one of the reviews on the ps4 one said there was more degrees of freedom for movement. I haven't used it yet but I'm sure you can't go wrong with the cheaper stick.

u/animeman59 · 2 pointsr/pcgaming

This is a good starter flight stick that actually works amazingly well.

Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS 4

Thrustmaster just released another HOTAS set that is getting pretty good reviews. There used to be a huge gap between the $50 and $200 segment. Any HOTAS within that range were too expensive and too crappy to even consider. So for anyone who wanted something a little more versatile had to make the huge jump to something in the hundreds of dollars. Thrustmaster seems to have fixed that.

Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS Controller

Past this, I personally would recommend CH Products. Pretty pricey and, honestly, not much to look at. But what you really pay for is absolute durability, longevity, and versatility. CH Products has been building HOTAS systems for decades now, and there's people who still have their original sticks and throttles, but just rewired the old joystick ports to USB, and they still friggin' work. I have the Fighterstick USB, and the Pro Throttle USB.

u/perseus1277 · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Go to /r/MechanicalKeyboards . Also you don't have a price that can be used for figuring out what "budget" means. And lastly if you really want to go cheap most of the keyboards will probably have knock off blues, making them pretty loud.

But I am assuming by budget you mean about 59 or under. For that price i could recommend these two boards:

They are fairly cheap and if you really want it to be quiet you can pick up a pack of 100 or whatever amount of gateron browns, yellows, reds, it blacks from any store and just desolder the blues on the keeb already and resolder on the gateron ones ʘ‿ʘ

u/brianf408 · 2 pointsr/EliteDangerous

It's only $129.99, and has gone on sale in the past couple months. I got mine for just over $100.

Now the Thrustmaster Warthog on the other hand...

u/killmepleasethanks · 2 pointsr/hotas
u/krelvar · 2 pointsr/starcitizen

I concede on the KBM part. I agree, you can get stuff that will work fine for pretty cheap.

The T16000m by itself is around $40 on amazon normally. They recently released the new FCS HOTAS, which comes with the T16000m stick and a throttle, for $130. or the same thing with pedals included for $200
They are switching over production from the older green design to the newer gold design, so I wouldn't buy anything right now until it settles down again. I expect you'll be able to buy the stick alone again once they do (and people can stop scalping them...)

You're not the only asshole who thinks that, there's a whole large crowd of us. :)

u/vgskid · 2 pointsr/oculus

I ordered this Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas 4 Flight Stick
and this Thrustmaster VG T150.

I like that they'll be compatible with both Vive and Oculus and, since I have a PS4 and plan on getting PSVR, they should be compatible with the PS4 too. Very rare to find hardware compatibility across the board like that.

u/Henrath · 2 pointsr/buildapc

You can get mechanical keyboards for $34, so I don't think that's worse than an i7 as long as people recommend the cheap ones, which they don't.

u/XxSCRAPOxX · 2 pointsr/Xplane

I had a gift card for Amazon so I ended up getting this

It snaps apart so I could always move it around or whatever. Everything is right handed apparently any way. And I didn't want to get a refurbished or used 3D pro. Plus I also have a PS4 so if anything ever comes out for it, I'll have compatibility. The PS4 is better than my computer so here's to hoping.

u/iAlovi · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Does it have to be 60? If not i m selling a couple mech boards but of it does then I can personally vouch for this

Redragon K552 KUMARA LED Backlit Mechanical Gaming Keyboard (Black)

I use it and I use the switches that come with it daily in another keyboard.

Dont waste your time buying genuine tbh to the average consumer the Chinese stuff feels pretty similar to the real thing in my experience and you save a ton

u/mrpeatie · 2 pointsr/PSVR
u/Samen28 · 2 pointsr/raspberry_pi

As someone who has an original SNES pad and has used an 8bitdo controller, there really is no difference in weighting (if anything, the 8bitdo is a hair heavier?).

If you really want authenticity, you can connect an original or reproduction SNES pad over USB using one of these, but you may want to look into refurbishing as SNES pads tend to get a bit gummy over time.

u/zWeApOnz · 2 pointsr/EliteDangerous

Is this a common/recommended HOTAS? Anyone vouch for it?

I have never used a HOTAS and want a decent entry-level one to see how I like it, but also one that I would be happy with long-term.

u/YoKalli0 · 2 pointsr/battlestations

The keyboard looks like the Red Dragon KUMARA.

I recommend it as a great budget mechanical keyboard.

u/CallMeMaverick · 2 pointsr/ElitePS

I've never used it, but there is a HOTAS that is compatible/made for the PS4. There's one game that uses it right now. It'll be up to Frontier if the want to design the game to use joystick support.

u/HumanKumquat · 2 pointsr/ElitePS

I don't have a HOTAS, but from lurking on the forums/doing some research,) the Thrustmaster HOTAS 4 is the only one to work on the PS4.

u/boredguy12 · 2 pointsr/Vive

just you wait. you may be interested in getting a /r/hotas setup to play warthunder (Free+paid DLC), DCS (also Free+paid DLC), elite: dangerous($30), star citizen ($45), mechwarrior 4 (free), star fighter arduxim ($5), or vector 36 ($25). all great games to play with a set up. You can get an entry level one for $60 (Thrustmaster HOTAS 4 is your best bang/buck/skill) The feeling of using a physical throttle and joystick to fly and turn make my greatest experiences in VR.

u/YamiKishi · 2 pointsr/IndianGaming

This probably is the cheapest HOTAS you could get:

I've used the old PS3 version of this. Pretty good. Throttle wasn't that great though. It had an annoying notch right at the middle which meant precise adjustments weren't easy. Not sure if the newer version changed it.

u/Dragoniel · 2 pointsr/EliteDangerous

T-Flight X IS the cheapest of the cheap.

The most cost-effective HOTAS is T.16000M FCS. It is cheap, but uses high-end sensors and has a very good build quality, unlike competing Saitek stuff.

Reference list.

u/tripped144 · 2 pointsr/PSVR

If I purchase the HOTAS 4 -

What do I use instead of the pedals? I really want to get pedals for it, but they are apparently hard to find and more expensive than the HOTAS4 for some reason. So I'm really curious on

  1. What do you use instead of the pedals

  2. How does it feel without the pedals? Is it worth it to buy the HOTAS4 and then maybe one day get pedals for it

    Thanks in advance anyone who can answer this for me!
u/TDotHacker · 2 pointsr/PSVR
u/CBandicootRS · 2 pointsr/buildapc

Redragon K552 KUMARA LED Backlit Mechanical Gaming Keyboard (Black)

I bought this for myself and it's a great keyboard that I use everyday for gaming and doing my college work, great price and has everything you mentioned other than wireless.

Hope this helps, goodluck!

u/stringentthot · 2 pointsr/gamingsuggestions

Might I suggest you instead consider the Thrustmaster Hotas T.Flight 4, which is essentially the same as the older X model but with a tighter dead zone and upgradable firmware.

It's about $8 more than the Hotas X, but newer, better dead zone, upgradable firmware, still under $50, and has the great reputation of the Hotas X behind it too. And it works great with Elite. Here's a reddit thread on the detailed differences between the two joysticks.

u/Blackasaurus_Rex · 2 pointsr/buildapc

There are many low priced mechanical keyboards available on amazon. You're definitely going to want a mechanical keyboard over a normal one. Some of them are backlit if that is something your are interested in. I would recommend this one

u/Realdarkviper · 2 pointsr/EliteOne

Ok so if they are using the Brook USB converter then in theory you could also make use of their model that converts PS3/PS4 peripherals to the xbox one. I know that the PS4 has a decent flight stick available:

Someone with more money than me should test this out so we can all jump on the HOTAS bandwagon.

u/Leron4551 · 2 pointsr/RivalsOfAether

I have one of these:

Never thought to use it with RoA, but it works pretty well with Joy2Key in order to map the buttons to keyboard inputs.

u/geauxwave · 2 pointsr/RetroPie

The one i have is by Mayflash... SNES Controller to Adapter for PC USB

EDIT: I just realized you said NES, not SNES. I actually don't have NES ports. What I did was make a NES to SNES adapter by buying two sets of extension cords and splicing the proper wires together. The end product is an extension cable with a NES receptacle and a SNES plug. Let me know if you want the wiring diagram. I have it somewhere.

u/Vertisce · 2 pointsr/starcitizen

I would be willing to buy another TrackIR for that. My last one broke so it would be another investment. One that might be worth it though.

If I went dual stick I might consider this set...

Plus an additional stick. They can be reversed to make them left or right.

The purpose of having analog on those sticks is only so that I can finely tune the thrusters for what I need them to do. I guess that also depends, like you said, on what CIG does with how thrusters behave too.

u/zoapcfr · 2 pointsr/EliteDangerous

I've never seen that one before, and had no idea Thrustmaster did an even cheaper one. They do a decent cheap one, that lasted me for a full year of heavy use before the buttons started to go. Or if you want to spend more, they have this one which is much better yet still a lot cheaper than some of the other high end ones out there.

u/KyleAJ13 · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

I'd recommend this keyboard and this mouse if you can push your budget, if not then this mouse instead.

u/music2169 · 2 pointsr/oculus

i got this three weeks ago ( same as yours but with throttle)

and yes works perfectly, haven't had any issues with it

u/BluefyreAccords · 2 pointsr/starcitizen

Unless anything has changed recently, the x56 has some quality control issues. I’d say get this one instead

My .02 cents.

u/IlIlIlIiIlIlIlI · 2 pointsr/battlefield_4

There are many great mice on the market in your price range, but there's a lot of information (and marketing) to sift through. I hope this post helps.

The most important part of a mouse is its sensor, which is responsible for maintaining 1:1 tracking at all speeds. As of today (2015-01-17) the best sensors are the 3366, 3310, and S3989; this limits your choices significantly but ensures that you will be getting the best mouse possible. Below are some mice and information (and my own, biased thoughts) about them. Ultimately, you will have to decide on a mouse based on your own set of priorities and needs / wants.

First, the Razer DeathAdder Chroma. This is a 5-button right-handed ergonomic mouse with a good sensor, acceptable weight, and RGB lighting. However, the top edges are oddly shaped, there are rubber side grips, you have to use the Razer Synapse software, the clicks are extremely light (causing some people to accidentally misclick), it has a braided cable (frays), and Razer is known for its extremely poor quality control. A good mouse, certainly, but there are major flaws which prevent me from recommending this mouse.

Logitech mice are known for their excellent build quality and high-quality sensors, but they are oddly-shaped. The Logitech mice to consider are the G303 and G502 (there's an updated G502 with RGB lighting, too). Both of these mice use the 3366 sensor, which is slightly better than the 3310. Based on shape alone, however, I can't recommend these mice. The G303 is very small, and the G502 is heavy and awkwardly-shaped and such that I would accidentally click the two front side buttons. They also come with a braided cable (frays) and require software for configuration.

Next is the SteelSeries Rival 300. RGB lighting, 5 buttons, light weight, etc., but has a rubber side grip and uses software. The new revision supposedly fixed the wear issues with the rubber side, so there's nothing really wrong with this mouse, but I think there are better options.

The FinalMouse 2016 is simply a 3310 sensor in a cheap OEM shell - I'd look elsewhere. They're coming out with the "Tournament Pro" and "Scream One" editions, but I wouldn't have high hopes for these.

The Ducky Secret is an interesting one, but largely untested and unreviewed. Ducky is known for their high-quality mechanical keyboards (I'm typing this on a Ducky Shine 3), but this is their first mouse. Good sensor, RGB lighting, separate left and right buttons, a shell made of PBT (higher-quality plastic), Omron switches in all buttons, even the thumb buttons (but not rated for as many clicks as other mice). Could be great, but it's a bit of a gamble, especially considering how many well-known and well-tested other mice already exist.

Finally, I'll cover the Zowie mice. All of these mice are driverless (no software needed; all adjustments are made with a button on the bottom of the mouse), which is certainly a plus when it comes to ease of use, but they lack the flashy features of many "flagship" mice, like custom RGB lighting. All Zowie Mice use the same sensor (3310) and have 5 buttons (left, right, middle up/down/click, and two thumb buttons). Each type comes in two or three different sizes, as indicated my the number after the model name. The ambidextrous mice (ZA for palm grip and FK for claw grip) have two buttons on each side, but only one set can be used at a time. The EC mice are right-handed ergonomic mice. None of them have rubber side grips or braided cables, and all of them are very light. However, they are known for using Huano switches rather than Omrons (so the left and right buttons are a little harder to click) but there is a new revision with Omron switches. Speaking of revisions, this seems to be the Zowie business model: small revisions every 6 months or so. Questionable, but they do offer excellent mice.

Those are all of the major players in the gaming mouse market, but there are others (Mionix, Roccat, CoolerMaster, Corsair) that you may want to look into. There's a lot more depth than I've covered here (grip type, sensor implementations, lift-off distance, etc.) but this should give you an overview of the most popular choices. Keep in mind that this is not in any way an objective set of reviews; these are all my opinions and may not apply to your tastes. Additionally, I've been pretty harsh and picky, but these really are all great mice.

After all of my research, I chose and now use a Zowie EC1-A (late 2015 version, before the BenQ re-brand and Omron update), and couldn't be happier.

u/ArbyCreeper · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

What grip do you mainly use? I recommend the Steelseries Rival 300 for palm grip. Also the Razer Death Adder Chroma seems to be at $50 on amazon

u/SpamShadow · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Not in the US they aren't. If you compare Razer mice and mats to other mice of the same type, they come out cheaper. I think the brand just turns people off, and that's fine. Read reviews, some of their products are great. The Deathadder goes toe to toe with the G502 in a lot of reviews, and its cheaper. Some of their products aren't great, I've never heard a good thing about their headsets.

-Deathadder $50
-G502 $60

-Razer Mamba $110 on sale
-G900 $115 on sale

-Razer Firefly $45
-Corsair Polaris $60

u/countmontecristo · 2 pointsr/battlestations

The keyboard is great. Coming from a membrane keyboard and the standard crap ones it was night and day. BLUE style switches. Very great feel. (1)

That beings said, if I had to do it over again, I would buy this one (2). Similar price. RGB, Blue style switches (or black switches), wireless and wired.

The key caps are solid. The pack also comes with a few different shift and enter keys so if you have a tall enter key, it won't be an issue. There's a bit of light bleed coming through the key caps (on the key itself, and not just where the letter is illuminated), but overall work great. (3)

u/Aarenas52 · 2 pointsr/hoggit

Ohh lol. Logitech 3d pro?

Also Thrustmaster is coming out with a new hotas!

I know its no warthog but it [looks pretty good! ]( VG T.16000M Fcs HOTAS Controller (2960778)

Wait for reviews and see What happens. Also i plan on selling my rudder pedals. I too have the Saitek combat. I really want the MSG crosswinds or something similar lol. But like i said thays 3 or 4 more months at least I'm currently over seas.

u/KYS_B · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

There are plenty of keyboards at that price range. They may not be the best overall keyboard, but they sure as hell will be better than rubber domes.

Here is one of the first keyboards that I found on amazon for 31.67 Euros. It also has 790 reviews and a 4.5 star rating.

u/hab1b · 2 pointsr/OverwatchUniversity

I will say you can get a nicer set up as far as headset goes is you ignore the "gaming" headsets.

CAD MH210W $50.00

Blue Snowball Mic $50

I have musicians buds who use these in home studios. More than enough for gaming.

IF that is still too much look at the Plantronics 202180 , ~$40

My personal favorite mousepad is the QCK+. $15

Rosewill RGB80 Keyboard is a solid mechanical keyboard for about $50 marked donw from $150 for whatever that is worth.

And I always recommend the Deathadder Chroma for about $60

EDIT: What are you running for gaming rig?

u/TxxNES · 2 pointsr/buildapcforme

you may want to upgrade the keyboard and mouse.. you said you could go over $1000 and for this you may want to. that bundle is good for the price but that will not be very comfortable for gaming.. i would suggest the following if youre willing to spend the extra money on it.

a cheap but good mechanical feeling keyboard - i once had this one and can reccoment

and for a cheap mouse - [i also had this when i started on a budget] (

u/lucksh0t · 2 pointsr/buildapc

ive got pretty big hands im about 6'4
this is the mouse i use it fits my hand well they have a newer mouse the death adder elite

u/LunarisDream · 2 pointsr/hardwareswap

MSRP is $70 but it's currently $60 on Newegg and Amazon..

u/elementfbl114 · 2 pointsr/ValveIndex

I'm using the T16000M.

u/spicycurry1 · 2 pointsr/buildapcsales

It was on sale for $54.99 US. Still is on amazon. Its all really up to you im upgrading from a 3.5g so i find it worth since ive used this one for well over 3 years.

EDIT: Not in stock until December 3 might wanna try newegg

u/The-Mars-Travolta · 2 pointsr/oculus

Cheapest is the Thrustmaster T-Flight X that others have mentioned. It functions, but mine ran into an issue where a button broke inside the throttle. I was able to fix it with some Krazy Glue, and sold the HOTAS at a discount.

I then upgraded to the Thrustmaster T16000. While it's a ways outside of your budget, it strikes a good balance between features/build quality and price. It's also got a little analog stick built into the throttle, which is perfect for vertical/lateral thrusters in Elite.

Unfortunately, HOTAS' are a niche product within a niche product (flight sims), so prices are inflated and they seldom go on sale.

Edit: I should also mention that Elite has A LOT of functions in-game, so it'd be tricky to map everything you need to even a top-of-the-line HOTAS. A lot of people use software like Voice Attack to map some functions to spoken voice commands.

u/Taco-Pterodactyl · 2 pointsr/EliteDangerous

To answer your question, yes, the T.16000M is a direct upgrade on the Hotas X. I would personally recommend a full upgrade to the T.16000M and throttle:

Once you have a good Hotas you'll never go back to keyboard or controller, especially for VR. The throttle is the key here, it has a ton of buttons and you'll never have to use the keyboard except for maybe typing in the galaxy map.

There are also chair mounts available to put the stick/throttle in a good spot ergonomically, although I have no trouble whatsoever playing with them situated beside my normal keyboard.

u/Speackker · 2 pointsr/osugame

Is this a good keyboard for osu

If not what would be a good budget keyboard

u/AeiOwnYou · 2 pointsr/buildapcsales

Razor Deathadder Chroma is a pretty good gaming mouse. You can turn the LED off pretty easily so its not "xxgamerxx" I'm a pretty hardcore gamer. I use the deathadder. Haven't had any problems with it. Very accurate.

Marathon Mouse is super comfortable in my hand, i used it for a good 4-5 years before i replaced it. Very normal looking, very comfy. Recommend it to anyone that is a moderate-to-allday computer user.

u/C124ZY · 2 pointsr/gaming

I bought this one and it works awesome for me. I play mostly FPS. Download the software from their site and you get tons and tons of customization options, color, sensitive, etc...

u/doomddo · 2 pointsr/Random_Acts_Of_Amazon


Ok something contest winning worthy

I stepped on a wana (Sea urchin) Proof

bonus points

Not sure on what you mean by "dark films" but THIS is one of the most brutal movies I have ever seen. you can get it HERE.

And I am also a gamer. and I just got some new stuff for PC gaming.

Razer Kraken 7.1 Chroma Sound USB Gaming Headset

Razer DeathAdder Chroma

Razer BlackWidow Chroma Mechanical Gaming Keyboard

I dont know what your budget is but the Keyboard Is so good! Its back lit and you can change the color of each key if you wanted too. HERE is a better look at it. and I know the headset you can use with a PS4 but I don't know about 3.The mouse is nice too! but if she is more of a console gamer that plays PC games I would look in to Razer Sabertooth (I know Im a razer fan boy) but there stuff works great! Im going to be looking it to getting me a Sabertooth soon too.

OR you can combined 2 things Like Russian shit + candy = THIS

Hope this helps! and thanks for the contest

u/aazar- · 2 pointsr/buildapc

Here are my recommendations:




DeathAdder Chroma

They're all great mice with the best sensors out there, so you should make your choice based on shape and price. Especially the G303, great mouse but the shape takes getting used to. Best of luck

u/anothercodnoob · 2 pointsr/MouseReview

Also, dont buy from the amazon link you have provided, it's a older version. Here's the link -

Would recommend best buy, you can also try the shape in best buy stores.

u/sixgunmaniac · 2 pointsr/hotas

If you can afford to save a little extra money for it, I'd also recommend this Thrustmaster T16000M FCS HOTAS It's $130 And it's what's I'm currently using. It has enough buttons to use completely alone in elite dangerous. It's personally what I would recommend to you but if you're committed to spending less than 100 the hotas x is it.

u/Pelistorm · 2 pointsr/graphic_design

So far most of the suggestions I've read have been good. I just want to add my personal favorite, the Razer DeathAdder. Gaming Mice tend to be really great for design work due to their great precision and more control over the DPI (But don't fall into the trap that higher DPI is better.)

u/turtle_with_dentures · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

I'd recommend the Masterkeys Pro S. It comes in black, has cherry browns, available for $130 right now on Amazon with $30 in rebate form, so $100. You can set custom lighting, and it has software for it. Lighting effects demo: It also has OEM key sizing if you ever want to swap keycaps.

Note, I own the keyboard and I'm VERY happy with it.

Can I also ask why you looked at the Pro M if you're looking for a TKL keyboard? The Pro M has a 10 key, that's it's selling point over the Pro S.

Also in the process of looking it up I found that you can get the Pro M for $80 after rebate on Amazon, not $114 like you listed. At that price point I'd just pull the trigger and get the M.

edit: Sorry, some of pricing is off. Seems I was looking at the White LEDs and not the RGB.

edit2: Here's the link to Masterkeys Pro S RGB browns:

u/kansasjeremy · 2 pointsr/buildapcsales

i guess it's a good deal if you like world of tanks, but the regular chroma (rgb) version is only $10 more. bought an open box deathadder chroma months ago and love it.

u/Kah-Neth · 2 pointsr/EliteDangerous

This is what I was referring to:
Thrustmaster T16000M FCS HOTAS

You can also get them separately. I saw op was using the twcs throttle and assumed he also had 16000 stick and didn’t notice his stick was a Logitech one.

u/mrdobo · 2 pointsr/EliteDangerous

I'd go with the [T16000M FCS](Thrustmaster T16000M FCS for $40 ATM

It's got the same sensors as the Thrustmaster Warthog stick, and the magnetic sensors feel better to me in general. As others have mentioned, this game has a ton of keybinds so as much as I like dedicated throttles, I find myself getting annoyed going back and forth from it to the keyboard.

That said if you don't think you'll mind switching back and forth, I'd recommend the [hotas combo that includes this stick](Thrustmaster T16000M FCS HOTAS

u/AnonymousGenius · 2 pointsr/buildapcsales

i bought it a year ago lol. if you're in the market though i would look into the masterkeys pro s, varmilo 87, code keyboard tenkeyless or vengeance k63.

source: i like mechanical keyboards

u/vampirecosmonaut · 2 pointsr/EliteBountyHunters

I purchased a Thrustmaster 16000m with a throttle. It's arriving in the mail today. It was on sale at Amazon:
I was using a controller and I think that was just getting me killed.

I often forget to change the pips from weapons when I don't have the enemy in front of me. I spend a lot of time spinning and looking for my target. All the while, I'm getting shot to bits. There's definitely a learning curve.

u/freddy121389 · 2 pointsr/EliteDangerous

Definitely the T.16000M. I use only the throttle as I have a logitech joystick, but this one actually has a built in programming for elite dangerous already.

u/onliandone · 2 pointsr/buildapcforme

$1500 is not really the budget for a 144Hz build. You can get a PC that plays those games and you can also get a 144Hz display, but it won't be a PC that is suited for 144 FPS in new games. But in older games it will work, so maybe that is okay for you.

pc-kombo shared list

CPU | AMD Ryzen 5 1500X | $234.99 @
Motherboard | ASRock AB350M Pro4 | $109.99 @
Memory | G.Skill Aegis DDR4 DDR4-3000 8GB (8 GB) | $82.99 @
SSD | SanDisk Plus 240GB TLC (240 GB) | $115.85 @
Video Card | ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1060 Mini | $329.99 @
Case | RAIJINTEK Arcadia Midi-Tower - white | $49.99 @
Power Supply | be quiet! Pure Power 10 (500 W) | $69.9 @
Operating System | Windows 10 Home (32/64-bit, USB Flash Drive) | $129.99 @
| Total | $1123.69
| Generated by pc-kombo 06.08.2017 |

With as display. That will leave you enough money to get a keyboard like and as mouse. Step down to a 60Hz display if it gets too expensive.

But you maybe should experiment with ergonomic mouses instead. is one common form, goes a bit further (and wow, that's cheap). They aren't necessarily great for shooters, but for slower games they work well, and the second one especially is great as soon as you are used to it.

There are also ergonomic keyboard. With mechanical keyboards you have to consider that the keys can be harder to press (for the Redragon one that is actually unlikely). That can be good or it can be bad, depending on the user.

u/lifetaken · 2 pointsr/starcitizen

So just to give a link, you're referring to this being a better option? I too think that is decent for the same reasons. The throttle has like 2 other analog sticks on it (among other buttons) so I could control everything I needed to, I think. I'm still fairly new to SC so I figured I'd get one of these now before putting myself through the M+K learning curve.

u/Used_Taco · 2 pointsr/PUBATTLEGROUNDS

I like my Red Dragon.

u/PM_ME_FAT_FURRYGIRLS · 2 pointsr/wownoob

I'm going to be the odd one out with the Naga Trinity, then. Razer's quality control has, in my experience, been extremely poor. I have owned three Razer Naga mice in my life, and each one has died after about a year of use, generally due to either the left mouse button or middle click becoming faulty.

The Trinity in particular lasted the least amount of time. I bought it at the beginning of BfA, and two months ago, it began to double and triple click on left mouse button, making using it virtually impossible. I'm not a hardcore raider and I'm not someone who rages and breaks my belongings; all three have died under casual WoW playing use, no especially hard play or anything like that.

Instead of buying a fourth Naga, I instead purchased a Redragon M901. It's a Chinese "knock-off", but honestly, I'm blown away by how well it works. The buttons are firmer than the Naga, and everything feels so much more sturdy. I'm not at all worried about breaking this thing, and it even comes with a bunch of QoL things that the Naga doesn't, like weights, a carrying case, and an extra set of skates for the bottom when they get worn out.

Plus, it's close to a quarter of the price. $30, compared to $100.

Personally, I'm never touching a Razer product again in my life. Obviously most other people have better experiences, and that's fine, but for me they've been just garbage.

u/linkmaster95 · 2 pointsr/buildapc

The only one I could seem to find was the Redraon K552, however there's only one left in stock. If I could find an actual mechanical keyboard, that would be fantastic

u/pandawombat · 2 pointsr/EliteDangerous

Congrats! Elite in VR is amazing, I could never play it on a flat screen again.


As for tips to improve quality, there are in-game supersampling options. I can't give you too much information on that, as I don't have a good enough system to utilize it, but it's there.


I'd also suggest looking into getting yourself a HOTAS if you really want to enhance the piloting-a-spaceship feel. I bought the Thrustmaster T16000m + throttle and using it with a VR headset is just amazing. Elite even has an in-game controls template specifically for that setup - you can configure it if you want, but I found the defaults to be just fine. I mounted the joystick and throttle to my chair, and combined with VR it really feels like I'm sitting in the cockpit of a spaceship. Can't imagine playing the game without it!

u/porksandwich9113 · 2 pointsr/shittybattlestations

If you have the USB model, you can just plug it right in.

If you are wireless, you'll need an adapter like this zetta one.

Fairly cheap, but it is pretty much plug n' play with the Retropie.

Also, I just want to mention, the Pi doesn't have enough power for things like the Wii. N64 games are very hit and miss. Mario Party or Mario Kart work amazingly though. SNES/NES are all amazing, 100% performance. Same with gameboy/color/advanced. I have not tried any Nintendo DS games, but I've heard they run pretty well.

There's tons of consoles on there with a ton of options of games.

u/STiReddit · 2 pointsr/GameDeals

2 such dongles w/a quick search... one is official the other not. Probably can find more or scour eBay as well. I think I got my official 360 wireless adapter for $10 shipped lurking auctions for a couple days if you're patient.

I use the official MS version and it works flawlessly.

u/infosciguy · 2 pointsr/patientgamers

Just wanted to add that the 3rd party dongles for 360 controllers work as well. I've used one on both steam link and my pc. Just make sure you go into your pc driver settings and update the driver to the official Microsoft one.

u/LiftedWanderer · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Lol and I just got the Redragon 88 Keyboard, Cheap mechanical keyboards ftw.

u/rosewillcode · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Are there any split mechanical keyboards out there with low profile switches? I currently have this keyboard with Kailh low-profile blues:

I like it due to the low profile switches, but I would prefer to have a split keyboard for the ergonomics. I've looked at some but they all seem to have regular-profile switches.

My holy grail would probably be:

  • split keyboard
  • low-profile switches (not too picky about any specific brand)
  • ortho-linear key layout

    Does this exist?
u/blackmagicmetal · 2 pointsr/bapcsalescanada

Hello everyone,

I'm looking to buy my first mechanical keyboard. I don't want to spend a lot of money, and Im a TLK kinda guy. I'm looking at the Redragon K552-RGB KUMARA RGB LED (I'm aware that its over $300 Canadian - I'm going to the US next week and plan on getting it while there delivered to an Amazon box). I know there's a budget intro guide to mechanical keyboards - its where I found this one.. link to guide for interested parties

Does anyone have any other suggestions? I know I could go RGB-less and get it for WAYYY cheaper but... rainbows...

I also looked at the Mechanical Eagle Z-77 but its just fixed color LEDs - but the plain no led one is REALLY cheap...


u/Big_Metal_Unit · 2 pointsr/dragonage

If money isn't a problem, I'm happy with this setup though it's a bit more expensive than is necessary:

  • 360 rechargable controller with transforming D-pad
  • Wireless connecter for PC (needed if you go with a wireless controller)
  • Squidgrip (comfort)

    The more expensive "play and charge" version doesn't require swapping batteries, you just plug it in to recharge (where it becomes a regular Wired controller so you can still use it), and that's worth the extra $20 to me. The squid-grips, when applied properly, make holding the controller more comfortable.
u/mattbones · 2 pointsr/Steam

I like using my 360 wireless. they dont make an adapter so i had to buy a third party one on amazon

Ps3 ones work well with a driver ( its on the steam forums somewhere)
I tried using the ps4 one briefly but it wouldnt map the buttons correctly when playing some games. I have american hands so the cramping was the most tolerable on 360 ( ps4 close runner up but its still not as comfortable longevity wise)

u/OldSkooRebel · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

On PC I can use an Atari 2600, NES, Genesis, SNES, N64, PS1/PS2, Gamecube, XBox, PS3 (with bluetooth), Xbox 360, Wii (with blutooth), XBone (Micro USB), PS4 (Bluetooth) and Wii U Controllers as well as the the countless other 3rd party controllers.

On Xbox 360 I can can use an Xbox 360 controller.

u/juggalonumber27 · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

is it the wireless controller?

even with the plug and charge kit, you need the wireless receiver plugged in as well. or, just get a wired controller, those are plug and play

u/shawn789 · 2 pointsr/Steam

You need a wireless adapter for your controller. This is the one I use. Plug it into a USB 2.0 port and let Windows install the drivers. Then sync your controller with the adapter. There's tutorials all over the Internet for this.

If you go to the store page for a game it will say so in the right column with the other categories the game is in. Also, if you're using a controller, you'll be doing yourself a big favor by using Big Picture mode. You can control it with your controller and every game will have a controller icon or keyboard icon denoting whether it's compatible with a controller it just a keyboard and mouse. It will also warn you if you try starting a game that is only compatible with keyboard/mouse. The icons aren't always completely accurate; sometimes it will say games aren't controller compatible when they are. This usually happens when a game can accept controller input normally but only has prompts for keyboard/mouse input. Games that only have partial controller support will also show up as only keyboard/mouse.

u/Zogenix · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Ok then your gonna love to have one, don’t worry I have been on console the majority of my life so I feel you. I am gonna send you a link of my mechanical keyboard, it honestly the best cheapest mechanical keyboard with cherry mx blue switches, which are really good. The only con/issue is the fact that the keyboard makes a lot of sound when typing or playing. So there the link: Reddragon kumara rgb

u/nateious · 2 pointsr/MLPLounge
  1. OK that's fine

  2. You are correct, controllers do suck. Better off just sticking w/ kb+m.
u/Balforg · 2 pointsr/pcgaming

The 360 does have an adapter, but that is an extra cost...

u/Thors_Son · 2 pointsr/buildapcsales

Not sure about xbone, but I use it with [this]( Wireless PC USB Gaming Receiver for Xbox 360 Compact Disc and never needed the software, just direct plug in to the steam link.

Been able to get 4+ players at once. Does that not exist for xbone?

u/Trengence · 2 pointsr/gaming

well, they have these adapter that allow you to use a wireless controller with a pc or laptop. Hopefully when Destiny and/or MCC comes to PC they will include the DLC and be not broken

u/Route66_LANparty · 2 pointsr/buildapcforme

Lian-Li's TU100 case might be perfect for you:

u/myyrddraal · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

This or this

And any custom build you can think of.

u/NicholasTheGr8t · 2 pointsr/battlestations
u/guts65 · 2 pointsr/AlienwareAlpha

You'll need one of these.

Zettaguard Wireless PC USB Gaming Receiver for Xbox 360 Compact Disc

u/MoHashAli · 2 pointsr/AskGames

I played it on PC, the keyboard/mouse controls are a bit awkward but they still work. But if you want to use your xbox controller you could get this. It's simple to setup and most PC games are controller compatible

u/mrdeath799 · 2 pointsr/GiftofGames

If you look around you could probably find one cheaper, but here's an amazon link to a USB receiver for wireless Xbox controllers. It's about 10 bucks.

u/covah901 · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Havit makes one that uses Kailh Low Profile switches. They're mechanical, but different in design: link . It has flip out feet if you want a bit more height. Keep in mind you most likely won't be able to change out the keycaps if you want to. The one I linked is the one I purchased for myself. It uses clicky switches and is very low profile. I don't know about the others.

u/emrythelion · 2 pointsr/FortniteCompetitive

Like others mentioned, it doesn’t necessarily matter. A lot of it is personal preference.

I would generally recommend a mechanical keyboard of some kind over a membrane- they tend to be a lot more accurate in their actuations. As far as specifics go, there’s a number of amazing options, including building your own...

That being said, my personal favorite keyboard, by far, is Havit Low Profile board- it’s not as customizable as a Cherry style switch, but it’s the most accurate, consistent, and easy to use keyboard I’ve ever touched. It’s also half the price of a Ducky or similar style board (which are excellent boards as well, at least most of them.) The actuation point is incredibly small, and I’ve never once had an issue with ghosting, no matter how quickly I’m pressing.

HAVIT Mech Keyboard](

u/shstan · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

This is one of the cheaper ones, and still has the RGB and is mechanical.

u/N30FAMOUS · 2 pointsr/gadgets

You'll need a wireless HDMI streamer like this. As for making your USB controllers wireless, there isn't really a consumer solution right now. You'll have to get a new set of wireless controllers. However, if you have a few Xbox 360 controllers lying around, you can use them wirelessly with your computer through an adapter like this (which lets you connect up to four 360 controllers wirelessly to your PC). If you don't have any 360 controllers, you can find a first-party wireless one made specifically for windows here (you won't need that adapter I linked above for this controller, and you can connect up to four controllers using one USB port on your computer), or you can look for others if you want.

u/vadrotan · 2 pointsr/gamingsuggestions

You can get a wireless adapter to get your 360 controller to work on your PC for $10-20 on Amazon. I got this one and it's worked great for nearly a year.

u/darealdsisaac · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Well if you want to go really want to go cheap, this has pretty good reviews.

u/ShinDigpay · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

I personally use a Buffalo SNES USB, but you can actually wire Original SNES controllers up to a Pi, or just use a SNES USB adapter.

u/PostalFury · 2 pointsr/buildapc

Well, not to sound rash or anything but, me personally, I'd send that hard drive back. 5400RPM is gonna lead to some pretty eh read/write speeds; about the same creeping-speeds as a console's hard drive. This is the same price range, 7200RPM, an extra terabyte of storage, and is incredibly quiet (avoid Barracudas; very noisy hard drives). I've got the 2TB version of the P300 and it's great. Very fast, very quiet.

And, I mean... There's about $160 you could've saved ^^^^That ^^^^would've ^^^^given ^^^^you ^^^^better ^^^^performance.

Your build is by no means bad.

It's great, and will last you many years to come. It just missed the mark on cost efficiency.


As far as keyboards go, I always recommend Cooler Master. Specifically their new MasterKeys Pro S. Very high quality feel, mechanical Cherry switches, RGB backlighting, standard bottom row keyswitches (easier to replace keycaps), TKL (tenkeyless; no numpad). For something more budget-friendly, the Redragon Kurama is actually pretty slick. Mechanical (Outemu; not as high quality as Cherry, but still good), TKL, doesn't feel too cheap, and it's tenkeyless.

Obviously the MasterKeys is gonna be a much more premium keyboard, but the Kurama is a nice little entry-level mechanical keyboard.

u/mizatt · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

I have one and honestly I don't really care for it. The keys feel sort of "wobbly" and make a hollow sound when I press them.

I have a Havit low profile mech ( that feels much better, though it obviously doesn't reach feature parity with the Keychron. That's one area in which the Keychron has just about everyone beat -- Bluetooth, Cabled, Windows MacOS, it's very flexible. It's a very visually attractive keyboard as well, IMO

u/Taylor_OD · 2 pointsr/buildapc

Great questions! I was unaware that this wasn't common practice.
You going to need to buy a receiver. $10.00 on amazon.

and then just follow the instructions in the amazon reviews to get the drivers installed.
It's a bit frustrating to get it all set up but it is well worth it and many games come with pre-set controller settings.

u/Herb_Fargus · 2 pointsr/RetroPie

You need the wireless adapter for the xbox 360 and then you need to install the xboxdrv driver from the setup script.

I just ordered this one:

u/mdinh013 · 2 pointsr/buildapcsales
u/_ItsEnder · 2 pointsr/ShadowPC

I use this keyboard
Its the Redragon Kumura, it has RGB Lighting and Blue Mechanical Switches. Its definitely worth the $45 price tag, plus it currently has a Lightning Sale on Amazon for Prime Day so its only $35 for the next 3 hours.

u/Wazowski · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

I got a pair of the retrolink NES pads and one didn't last a year. Switched over to this product and I'm much happier.

Though more often I use this adapter with a SNES pad. It functions flawlessly.

u/TBatWork · 2 pointsr/rawdenim

I have a brown switch 3/4ths size CM Storm. It's as loud as my old mechanical keyboard that was probably as old I was.

u/Jwach · 2 pointsr/xboxone

Absolutely. I use the Mayflash F300. Great customizable universal stick at a great price. You'll probably want a new stick and restrictor right off the bat.

u/BillyBuerger · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Hmmm, I would have preferred to see some Gateron slim switches. But I guess we'll see if these TTC ones are any good. I prefer the flat keycaps to the ones on the HAVIT keyboard. Although I'm making a guess that the Kailh switches will be better.

u/Doomguy504 · 2 pointsr/snes

I use of of these adapters and my old snes controllers and it works perfectly. Highly recommended if you want to keep the feel of the original controllers.

u/ccvector · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

I'm looking for one preferably less than $150. Must be:

  • Tenkeyless (Must have function keys)

  • Cherry MX Red

  • Low-Profile

  • Very sturdy (specifically, must have strong keycaps unlike SteelSeries Apex M800)

  • (Optional) RGB

    I'm looking at Havit but I want Red Switches not Blue.
u/hempires · 2 pointsr/graphic_design

okay for TKL boards I'll throw a few options ranging from super budget to a smidge over your budget.

$28 no backlight, blue switches (loud, clicky)
$45 RGB backlight, blue switches (loud, clicky)
$70 red backlight, MX red switches (linear, not as loud, "name brand" switches)
$80 RGB, MX red switches (linear, name brand switches)
$99 blue led. range of cherry MX switches (my personal favourites are brown or silver)

the AUKey and reddragon boards are both good 'beginner' boards to get you into the world of mechanical keybs without too much of an initial outlay.

also worth noting, if keycaps etc are a bonus for you I would steer clear of Corsair boards (i have a k65 and trying to find any keycaps that come with corsairs stupid non standard bottom row is an exercise in frustration.)

u/Zuology · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Similar to the surface keyboard (for mechanical switches) would be the dareu and havit kailh low-profile switch keyboards, which come in linear red switches or clicky blue.

Dareu Compact:
Havit TKL & full-size:

u/SirBloopy · 2 pointsr/buildapc

I just tried and I think it's because I'm bottoming them out. The click is definitely there but the majority of the noise is when I press down. Here's what I have:

u/NewYearNewAccount_ · 2 pointsr/buildapc

Red dragon make some decent boards. Their RGB one is 42 bucks. This one let's you customize keys. If you're just looking for lighting effects you could go even cheaper.

u/RoboCaesar · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

What about this one? It's got Kailh's low profile switches. They're clicky though (don't know if there are any keyboards with Kailh's low profile tactile/linear switches), so if noise is a concern, that's something to keep in mind.

u/HardAsMagnets · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

XDA/DSA will only go so far. I'm assuming you don't want to go with custom QMK stuff (but you should, ergonomics is important).

Give this a look.

u/Greggster990 · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

I need a thin mechanical keyboard for travel. My laptop switches do not have much travel distance so it hurts my fingers. I would like to keep it under $100 but I can go a little higher if it exceeds anything under 100.

I was thinking about a HAVIT thin keyboard but the travel distance seems small. Does anyone have experience with this keyboard?

u/profdudeguy · 2 pointsr/GlobalOffensive

Is THIS the keyboard that you have? I have been looking into it, I am asking for it for christmas. I play mainly this and LOL, as well as writing a stupid amount of papers for school.

You recommend it?

u/FLFisherman · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Indeed there are.

Here's one.

Here's another.

You could also buy LED covers in multiple colors that gives you a pseudo-RGB backlighting.

u/SpinahVieh · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards
u/the_weather_man_ · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Hey dude.

Thanks for the awesome write up. Over the last week I've been mulling over getting into my first board. I too was super overwhelmed by all the information and the learning curve. I was intimidated by the really cool custom boards but knew I was nowhere near that level yet. Just yesterday I finally pulled the trigger on these two Items Filco Majestouch Numpad and Cooler Master MasterKeys S. Im pretty excited to see where things go. I'll eventually get some keycaps.

I do a lot of number entry at work and wanted to have a left side number pad, hence the two items. I saw this board online DSI LEFT HANDED USB KEYBOARD but was a little turned off by MX-Red only and then it being a board from 2012. I'm not sure how quality has changed the last 6 years and I wanted to go with MX-Browns for my first board. Maybe a little foolish to buy two items, but I was afraid of how hard it may be to switch from red to brown.

I think I'll eventually get into a full custom board where I can have a more compact layout but still have a Tenkey on the left side. We'll see how that goes. I'm hesitant to get a bunch of tools that would be needed to make a board. Hopefully more left side tenkey options will come out some day.

Anyway, tldr: just got my first board, looking forward to the adventure. Thanks for the info and the kind welcome to the community.

u/chill1217 · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards
u/replicantblues · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

I think this is a great option, I think I passed by it before because of the lack of num-pad. It's not entirely a deal breaker but it would be nice.

What about this one? it looks comparable, and I think it is also standard layout so it should be easy to customize.

It's basically the same price, but it includes a numpad. It doesn't have the arrow keys and numbers active at the same time so it's not perfect but its somewhere in between.

u/Necrologica · 2 pointsr/mechmarket

This board is worth every penny. Super solid.

CM Storm Quickfire TK

u/djfakey · 2 pointsr/hardwareswap

I know you mention USD, but maybe I'm missing something in regards to Canada or something, but that CM Masterkeys S is $80 with free shipping, brand new via amazon, at least in US. Unless it's different?

u/hizzlekizzle · 2 pointsr/retrogaming

What u/Deev12 said is absolutely true.

However, if you're looking for semi-casual gaming, 8bitdo just put out their NES30 bluetooth joystick (the only bluetooth stick around, AFAIK) and it's very decent. The buttons are easily swapped out with Sanwa/Seimitsu parts if the need arises, though the stick is not, and it works with PC/Mac/Linux, as well as Wii/U and Switch and any of their NES and SNES retro adapters.

Mayflash also makes some relatively cheap, moddable sticks, including this one, which supports PS1/PS2 in addition to PC (though this one is harder to mod than their more modern sticks, I think).

u/Shrp91 · 2 pointsr/buildapcsales

Yep, I have one at work and it is hands down the best keyboard I have ever used. However, at home I mainly have my light off when at the computer and so backlight is a must. Went with this and I haven't been disappointed.

u/CareerRejection · 2 pointsr/gaming

Honestly buying the adapter and using legit controllers is better IMHO. This is what I use personally with two legit controllers. Doesn't require drivers or anything so it works right out the box. The iBuffalo button scheme is not concave like a normal NA controller so to me it feels unnatural to play my classic games on.

u/Bhumer · 2 pointsr/Skullgirls

Yeah, no problem. I'd recommend this one because it works with almost every platform: Mayflash F300 Arcade Fight Stick Joystick for PS4 PS3 XBOX ONE 360 PC

u/ADCBot · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

No way you can get all of that for under 100. But if you pay a little more then you can get [this]( same one but tkl, or this which is on sale right now.

u/HotRoderX · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

This would be a tiny tiny bit out of your budget coming in at like 103.19 cad according to google. Honestly these are amazing board's coolmaster makes one of the NICEST mechanical keyboards and it was one of my first boards. Mine was Cherry blues but browns are not a bad mid tier starter switch if you never had a mechanical keyboard before.

u/Mountainjew69 · 2 pointsr/MortalKombat

Well with fightsticks it’s safe to say go big or go home because most cheap ones are garbage but this one is a special circumstance. You’ll probably eventually upgrade it or upgrade to a new one but if you don’t do either of those things it will last you a super long time!

u/sense_make · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Shipped and sold by Amazon. Also, Amazon logo on short ends.

u/StaticSh0T · 2 pointsr/dragonballfighterz

The Mayflash F300 is super cheap and really durable and comes with great parts- nothing beats this within that price range and many people start off w/ the F300 due to these reasons; it's an overall great stick and has an amazing price.

The F300 has a newer version though which is the F500 it's about $30 more expensive, but the case itself is a bit bigger so it sits on the lap easier(also better for people with bigger hands) and has some metal plates on the top and bottom which means more durability and just feels more premium. It also includes more features than the F300 such as: a headphone jack(apple?) and a much easier artwork change option. Hopefully this helps, but you should also watch some YouTube vids about budget fightsticks as theres tons of content about those :)

u/ten_vrah · 2 pointsr/Gifts

Edit: I added links to Amazon products that are pretty nice and fit into your budget, if none of these work or you wanted advice on finding similar ones on slightly cheaper budgets just let me know and I'd love to help out!


I realize some people like them, and I mean no disrespect to u/MNLegoBoy but please do not get him a steam controller. I own one and me and everyone I've ever known who used one absolutely hated it.


If he only has one monitor in his setup I would highly suggest getting him a decent second monitor to have discord, youtube, or whatever else he wants up while he plays. It can be really helpful and never hurts to have.


If that doesn't work, you know about his setup...

and he uses a headset with a built-in mic I would suggest getting him this microphone and this interface. Even though they're cheap they're more than good enough and make people feel more legit because they're more like a streamer setup.


and he really likes his headphones/has really nice headphones but doesn't have a headphone stand or mount for him to keep his headphones on and keep his desk organized.


and he's into fighting games or older arcade games you could get him a fighting stick (be careful on this one, if he doesn't have room or likes using his KBM I wouldn't suggest it. It might also help to get one on a higher budget.)

u/flowmotionsolo · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Check the Cooler Master MasterKeys S PBT. Was considering buying this but didn't want to wait so I instead went with the iKBC MF-87.

u/tgujay · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Well it has Kaihua Kailh switches not Cherry MX, it also advertises 16 million colors but can currently only do like... 16 or something, also the backlight is all or none, no different colors per key.

If you would like a TKL, cheap, with backlight I would suggest the CM Storm Quickfire TK

For a little bit more you can get the backlit version of the Quickfire Rapid the Quickfire Rapid-i

Another option would be a Ducky Shine 3 TKL or Ducky Zero Shine TKL.

u/xfi21 · 2 pointsr/buildapcsales

If you want the numpad with decent portability you can look into this keyboard from Cooler Master. I was able to grab it when it went on sale for $60.

u/werse · 2 pointsr/buildapcsales

CM Storm Quickfire Tenkey backlit w/ mx reds $79.24

u/ErikaFluff · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Cherry MX Red or Black switches are considered by most to be the best mechanical switch for gaming. There are a few that have RGB backlighting, but they're expensive:

If you don't want RGB/Programmable backlighting, there are a ton more options:

u/scila · 2 pointsr/keyboards

I'm looking for the same thing.

I tried CM Quickfire TK, but didn't like the way they handle Fn Keys and the way they merged the numpad and the middle keys thing. You might not like the fact that their MX Brown model is backlit white.

There is also Corsair K65 RGB but it's annoyingly expensive. I'd love a K65 with basic backlight instead of the complicated thing they use instead.

Edit: what about this: Thermaltake Poseidon ZX? Khail instead of Cherry MX, but that might do. Now I need to find a UK version...

u/Pontus_Pilates · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Wouldn't this one be a fair bit cheaper?

u/Not_enough_yuri · 2 pointsr/buildapc

Don't buy that. The only Razer product I'd say is good for its price is the Deathadder mouse. If you get anything, get that.

For keyboards, look at the cheaper and equally good CM Storm Quickfire. That's just one example of the line. There's a lot more variety in layouts and switch types with other models. If you don't care much for researching switch types, just look at Corsair keyboards. They're build well and there's little hassle involved in choosing one. Best of luck!

u/Driftmaster · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

So I want a mechanical keyboard for a mac but I don't know squat about this other than:

a. these keyboards look and feel great.
b. there are different types of switches.

Would this or this be a good beginner keyboard? Could I eventually replace the switches with these 3D-resin-coated switches that I often see posted here?

I've also seen some beautiful keyboards with wood-grain and the likes; how does one go about aquiring that?

u/throwawayforautomod · 2 pointsr/shopformypc

Alright, there is a few options that i would recommend


If you don't want a numpad this is a great option

Cooler master masterkeys S (PBT (Thicker keycaps))

If you want a numpad this is the version with one

Cooler master masterkeys pro L

If you want a non pbt version of the S

Cooler master masterkeys S

If you want a pbt version of the pro L

Cooler master masterkeys pro L (PBT(Thicker keycaps))


These are all cherry mx brown switches, I'm not sure what the difference is between the pro and non pro versions you might have to look that up, they have white leds and come in at your budget, enjoy

u/pragmatizm · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

This keyboard is recommended by the community as a great starter board. You have a few switch options, TKL and fullize, and comes with pbt caps stock.

u/Quoub · 2 pointsr/MvC2

I use . I replaced the buttons and stick with sanwa parts. My only complaint is that it's a bit lighter than I would like it.

If you want one for dreamcast I have no clue, so sorry about that.

u/i_dont_seed · 2 pointsr/buildapc

The CPU OC won't really affect your gaming performance much (most games aren't too CPU intensive). It'll just improve the general performance of your computer and other software, such as in video editing. If you plan to use other software like that (which I assume you will since you have an i7), I'd recommend OCing. In order to do that, you'd need a z97 board AND a CPU cooler.

A good mechanical keyboard that is under $100 is this . If you don't want a mechanical keyboard, you can find $30 Logitech or Microsoft keyboards no problem.

You can pick just about any monitor in the $150 range and it will perform well.

u/Headcrab-King · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

You could try this one I don't know how most people feel about it but I love the size and its fun to type on.

u/sam278 · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Maybe you'd like this? Looks really simple but feels great and gets the job done.

u/HMKS · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

I've been looking for a keyboard with Brown switches for work. I have a CoolerMaster MasterKeys Pro L with Red switches at home and am leaning heavily towards another CM board for work.
Thoughts on the CM MasterKeys S PBT - TKL? Looking at the reviews, it seems the letters on the Key caps fade, and as much as I want to give PBT a try, I don't want a keyboard with faded keys. Worst comes to worst, I'll look at the MasterKeys Pro M.
Living in Canada and hoping for a $150 budget, lower preferable. Open to alternative recommendations if anyone has any. :)

u/SuperflyD · 2 pointsr/PS4

If you don't want to spend a lot the Mayflash F300 isn't bad.

u/Drazon · 2 pointsr/fightsticks

Have you looked at the [Qanba Q1] ( or the [F300 Mayflash] ( ?

These were the two that I was looking at before upping my budget to the Qanba Q4 RAF.

I think they're able to upgrade to sanwa buttons and levers but unable to change the panel artwork without printing out a massive sticker.

u/SirClimbsalot · 2 pointsr/buildapc

I recently just bought my first mechanical keyboard as well. After doing some research here and there I found the CM Storm Quickfire TK to be the best bang for my buck (opting for the Cherry Reds). It is a little more, $80, but just look at it as a long term investment :)

here's a linky-link to see it:

u/rudius · 2 pointsr/StreetFighter

Get this instead:

I just got it today in the mail and it's not bad. Definitely needs to be modded and the reviews say you can do that easily.

u/Tib5 · 2 pointsr/buildapc

I don't know of any good cheap keyboards, their's plenty that'll do, but none that'll compare with a good mechanical one. So for that I'd just pick the cheapest one up you can find. As for a mouse, their's a decent amount of good budget offerings. I'm partial to the UtechSmart MMO mouse. It has good software support, and I've found a verity of uses for the extra buttons in and out of games. I use it for work, gaming, and everyday use, I've used it for a long ass time, and suggest it completely.

u/cooperred · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

this one? No mention of hotswappability

u/Kensin · 2 pointsr/lowendgaming

this is what I'm using and it falls just under $30.00 (one sale) right now. I have no real complaints. The only issue I have with it is that the DPI LEDs are always red. That's it. Other than that it's been pretty much perfect. heres an amazon link for reviews or whatever.

u/Sigma3737 · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

So I've used it a little now general use so far and I'm loving it! I swapped from a Razer Deathstalker Chroma (I know boo and hiss but it was a Christmas present from my grandma) so I'm not used to the action of it yet and I'm definitely going to need a wrist rest soon. It has some (what the page on amazon says) MX Cherry Green equivalent (read knockoff) but after taking some caps off and looking they're actually blue (if that means anything). I'll have to do a full write up on it after I've used it for a bit. But for a cheap mech its great. Here's a link as well Redragon K552-N Kamara

u/suitupalex · 2 pointsr/smashbros

Yup it's available on Steam! I'm actually on PC myself.

If you're interested, this is the stick I bought.

There's an infographic that puts the previous version of this stick in shit tier, so don't get confused. This new one is supposed to be great for newbies since it doesn't break the bank, and it can be modded with Sanwa parts easily.

I don't have any experience with fighting sticks, but it feels great to me. If I do my inputs purposefully, it all registers the way I expect so that's probably a good sign.

u/bapcs-3c-checker · 2 pointsr/buildapcsales

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u/Toufles · 2 pointsr/wow

I almost got the Redragon Perdition after my Naga finally bit the dust, but ended up getting the UtechSmart Venus. Judging by your pictures the software is exactly the same, the buttons are also angled, but the mouse is all black so you don't get the weird color combos. I can't tell if one is bigger or smaller...I have small hands too so finding a mouse that doesn't feel giant is a challenge. Anyways, just throwing it out there as I am happy with mine too - I think they are both solid Naga alternatives.

u/FS_NeZ · 2 pointsr/speedrun

As someone who started with Kaizo a few months ago, I can actually give some advice.

I started with Learn2Kaizo - big mistake. It won't help you much as it's mostly trick into trick into trick and doesn't have "real" levels. I then played through Quickie World 1, started Kaizo Kindergarten and finally played through Robfather World which I recently started speedrunning. Overall, I learned the most in Quickie World, but I actually recommend Robfather World as the first "real" hack. Learn2Kaizo, Quickie World and Kaizo Kindergarten all have HUGE balancing flaws. Robfather World has one harder level, sure, but overall the hack is way better as a starting point. Quickie World helped me improve a lot, but one level, Sawrfing Castle, took me over 9 hours to beat - almost half my total hack clear time. Playing Quickie World as the 2nd or 3rd hack would've been better probably.

How to start with Kaizo:

  1. Get one of these USB adapters:
  2. Buy an original SNES controller somewhere (or already own one), plug it into your PC with the adapter
  3. Get a SNES emulator like
  4. Download the original SMW rom somewhere on the internet
  5. Download FLIPS:
  6. Download the patch to Robfather World:
  7. Open FLIPS, open the patch, open the SMW rom, save the new Robfather World rom
  8. Open your SNES emulator, got to Settings, activate "Reduce input lag"
  9. Open Robfather World.

    (The other method, or if you want to play on original hardware is to buy an original SNES, an Everdrive, a SSD card and a good ol' TV. All that does though is further reduce input lag so it's a cost/reward kinda thing.)

    As general advice... take your time, be patient, don't rush it, stay focused. Kaizo teaches life lessions. Dying over and over and over and over again is part of the learning curve. Get used to it. Yeah... you will die. An awful lot. 50 times on the same jump? Sure. 100 times? Definitely. But every Mario that dies one pixel later in the level is PROGRESS. Be proud if you die on the 2nd jump instead of the 1st. Be HELLA PROUD when you die right before the checkpoint. Don't rage. Retry. Until you get it. And then you will get it.
u/dakota831 · 2 pointsr/classicwow

Okay pretty simple. You need a few things though.

  1. A cheap mmo mouse like this you can bind your bread and butter to:
  2. A addon like Banana Bar that organizes hostel/enemy frames.
  3. Mouse over cast macro something like : #showtooltip Holy Light/cast [target=mouseover,exists] Holy Light; Holy Light

    Replace Holy Light with whatever spell you want.


    Once it's all set up you just press the button on the mouse to the corresponding spell while hovering the cursor over the enemy target frame. And boom, 1 handed mage.


    (PS: This is really similar to how you raid heal at high levels.)
u/Brolyx · 2 pointsr/Amd

oh they work alright! they really honestly arnt for everyone it causes anger issues trying to learn to control it properly i usually cut it down depending on the game via software or just a button on the mouse. i perfer around 12k tho honestly this mouse isnt even expensive and i prefer it over the chroma razer naga. this is the link if you are interested the mouse has removable weights as well so you can find a good balance between weight and dpi you can make your self very comfortable with very little movement. and with the software for each dpi setting (there are 5) you can create profiles for different types of games with various speeds and polling rates with one tap of a button on the mouse its honestly a very good product.

u/Xintros · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

I would check out the monoprice keyboard - I don't have any experience with it personally but it's a good price. The RGB colors are not changeable and you can't do fancy lighting features (not sure if that matters to you.) It has blue and red switches available.

This Gskill might be another decent option, better options and more switch options but more expensive -

The G910 has AWESOME RGB lighting -
the build quality is pretty plasticky and you may not like the romer G switches.

Personally I use a coolermaster masterkeys -
I have the ten keyless but it's a solid keyboard with nice software features, but a little pricier. You may also want to check out the Corsair keyboards in this price range.

u/firechaos05 · 2 pointsr/TeraOnline

I use one of these. Pretty handy since I main healer classes, can set up to 5 DPI profiles along with lighting profiles. I've had it for maybe a year now, no issues with it so far other than the little thumb rest that gets in the way sometimes ($45.99 USD excl taxes and shipping).

If that's still too much, there's also the Redragon Perdition. Haven't personally used it but it's getting decent reviews, not sure if you can customize its DPI profiles but it's cheaper ($34.96 USD excl taxes and shipping).

u/Ventem · 2 pointsr/wow

I bought a Naga and I hated it. It felt so cheap in my hand and the buttons felt "squishy". It was also a bit on the small side for my hand. So, I gave it to a friend and he loves it, so to each his own!
I ended up biting the bullet and went with a mouse that I've never heard of before, the Venus by a newish(?) company called "UtechSmart". In my opinion, it's miles above the Naga. It feels so much better in my hand, the build quality is superb, and there's no issues after a couple years of use.

If you don't want to go with a mouse that isn't a huge name brand like Razer, then I hear Corsair's mice are incredible too. I use their keyboards and I love them, but I haven't used one of their mice yet. Hopefully this can help to some degree.

u/Ciel_Rosemont · 2 pointsr/ffxiv

Ahoy! I "converted" to KB and mouse with FFXIV - it was my first game played on kb/m rather than controller. Prior to 2013 I'd been a mostly-console player, had played hundreds of games on controllers, and had never seriously attempted to play anything on kb/m.

The other reply said the most important part: just practice. There is a lot of individual variation from person to person when it comes to how you'd learn to play this way, and (crucially) what areas you'd have trouble with, and how you solve them. To give a personal example of that: while things like moving with WASD and the mouse took some time to adjust to, I was pretty much okay with those fundamentals after a couple months. What was KILLING me was hitting keyboard keys with my left hand to use hotbar skills. Generally, if I moved my hand slightly to hit whatever skill is bound to, say, shift 4, I'd have to look down in order to reposition my hand back on WASD to move properly. If I moved my hand to hit a key, then immediately after that there was an AOE I had to dodge, by the time I got my hand back where it needed to be, I already got hit. This also meant that everything past 5 in the number row was off-limits to skills I would need to use with any regularity, and if I DID need to hit a skill bound to 8 or 9, I needed to stop and look to make sure I was actually hitting the right key and not 7 or 0 (the same way I'd need to then stop and look AGAIN to get back to WASD).

Some people like to change Q, E, R, or other letters near WASD to hotbar assignments, but I just found that discombobulating and also preferred keeping Q/E as my strafe keys (which I use a LOT). This specific problem, of trying to use my left hand for WASD movement but also for hitting numbers to activate skills, kept me from being any better than "barely okay" at the game for a few years, even though I'd felt I'd adjusted adequately to kb/m controls OTHER than that one problem.

So I needed a solution that would allow me to move my fingers away from WASD as little as possible, and that solution was an MMO mouse with 12 thumb buttons. Specifically, this one. I use all 12, so my first hotbar is 1-12, 2nd hotbar is ctrl+1-12 (with ctrl mapped to that little extra button next to the left mouse button), and the 3rd hotbar is shift + 1-12 (shift I can hit with my left pinky without moving the rest of my fingers out of WASD position).

Now a 12-button MMO mouse may or may not work for you - it depends on the person. For me, after an awkward month spent adjusting to it, it began to feel totally natural. I can't go back to playing this game any other way now. But my point in writing all that isn't to say "get an MMO mouse", it's to illustrate that the key is figuring out what works for you, and perhaps more importantly, what doesn't, i.e. what your Achilles heel is when it comes to kb/m controls, and how you can solve it.

Re: standard vs. legacy - I dislike how legacy handles camera and character movement so I keep it on standard. I've long since gotten used to keeping my camera angled in such a way that if I need to dodge laterally, I can just right-click to instantly turn my character and then hit Q or E to strafe. This is also how I get around the "slow walk" issue, which seems to be one of the main points of contention when legacy vs. standard is discussed: hitting S in standard will make you slowly walk backwards (useless for dodging out of an AOE), whereas with legacy you'll actually turn and run away. With the camera angled properly, right-click and strafe allows you to run "backwards" instantly (that is, backwards relative to the enemy, even though your character is actually strafing left or right). But this, again, is an entirely subjective choice that's down to which one works better for you. It's worth fully exploring the particulars of both methods to figure out which one you like better.

u/Teugeus · 2 pointsr/wow

I got this one about a year ago and it has served me well so far, those extra buttons make all the difference.

{Upgraded Version}UtechSmart Venus 50 to 16400 DPI High Precision Laser MMO Gaming Mouse for PC, 18 Programmable Buttons, Weight Tuning Cartridge, 12 Side Buttons, 5 programmable user profiles, Omron Micro Switches, Over 16 Million Customizing LED Color Options For Side Buttons, Logo & Head Lights [Compatible with Windows 10]

u/teelap · 2 pointsr/MouseReview


I just dumped mine after the 3rd RMA. The original Nagas (2012) were amazing but the recent iterations have been pretty poor. Here are the options I found:

Corsair Scimitar Pro This is a smaller mouse than the naga, but provides the 12 button pad and has great software to boot

Logitech G600 This one is just a little too bulky for me, I have very small hands, but it is logitech. The dual dish feature is too weird for me.

Steelseries Rival 500 Not your standard layout, but a good sensor. Large mouse , very similar to the naga epic.

In the end, I went with the Rival 500, because I liked the features (programmable rumble support) and the Pixart 3360 Optical Sensor was a good choice. It is heavy, so not ideal for fps, but i use it anyways.

Also, there is always knockoff on amazon. My brother has this one and he loves it. Eh?

u/jninja119 · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Better but not good idea Alert:
Buy a mouse with a crap ton of programmable buttons and do everything with one hand.

u/dawn_of_thyme · 2 pointsr/ffxiv

I use a gaming mouse, with numbered keys like this:

This frees up my left hand for focusing on movement and CTRL/Shift/Alt.

u/NLGGHZ · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

You can go ultra cheap for as low as 30$, with no backlighting Redragon Kumara with cherry blue equivalents, but for 6$ more you can get different backlight options. It has a metal backplate and surprisingly good quality.

u/ForeverEphemeral · 2 pointsr/mechmarket

There's no way you're going to be able to get real Cherry MX switches in that price range, but this should work. It's a ripoff of blues. Check out the options for backlight options.

u/BeaversAreTasty · 2 pointsr/gis

I use one of these for GIS and CAD. Similar idea.

u/akira_ikeda · 2 pointsr/Rainbow6

Well, I use the mouse software to map the extra buttons to the numpad, and then in game I map the keybinds to that numpad button.

It's a generic mouse, but it's got 10 extra buttons :D Not this exact one but similar

u/runetrantor · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Did not even check, the moment I saw the pricetag and the leds I ignored everything else.

Only thing I recall is that it also had 'gamer buttons' on the side, like you know how the keyboard ends on the lef with the tab and such keys? Well, in this one, just past them, hanging from the edge, was a set of buttons that were supposedly for gamers, despite the clear pain to press if you are in a normal configuration.
Kind of like that mouse that had 12 blackberry sized buttons on the side and expected you to guess which was which and not press 4 at once (This one: Try at hit one of those in the middle of an intense gaming session.

u/Nekryyd · 2 pointsr/GamerGhazi

Well, since KBM = Godmode...

Why not just enable KBM support by default on console?

For about the same price as a new controller you could hunt around and find a playable KBM set up.

Even in the article you cite, the game's director only says that it should be either/or, he does not rule out KBM. He only says that if a console is going to have KBM input, it should be plug and play and equally accessible.


> There's no major difference between a $20 mouse and a $200 mouse except some more buttons, a few LEDS and the branding.

You are drawing the absolutely wrong comparison. Some products are all about branding and style and are definitely WAY overpriced (ahem), but there is a distinct difference between playing on this, and this(anti-ghosting is more important at really high competitive levels and players can be picky about an AG layout, but it's less important than the fact that mechanical keys offer much better options for tactile feedback and are almost universally more precise). And a MASSIVE difference between this and this. That gaming mouse has SIX TIMES (including scroll wheel button) the amount of buttons as the normal mouse. This is literally the difference between going from the face buttons of an original NES controller to the number of buttons and triggers on modern controllers. Sure, you could try and cluster as many functions as close to your left hand as possible, but having them all right at your thumb is a massive difference, to say nothing of the on-the-fly DPI adjustments that many gaming mice have (EG - most commonly used to instantly switch between high and low sensitivity settings for better sniping).

I personally have a blue-switch KB that is immensely satisfying to type on and is great for gaming (particularly when doing something, like a dash, that requires a double-tap of a key). I hope to never have to go back to a membrane KB.

As far as my mouse goes, I paid something like $50 for a mouse that has 8 programmable buttons and a DPI switch for up to 4 different DPI settings (though I only use two). It was a huge advantage over my old mouse for the shooter I was playing at the time (Planetside 2, an MMOFPS).

So I'll circle back to what I originally said and will restate that I think the decision at the hardware level to exclude KBM was an ill-thought "walled garden" approach to protecting controller sales. Again, if your cited article is to be believed, Microsoft may end up opening up KBM support. It only makes sense because media entertainment devices, such as consoles, are converging with the set-top HTPC/video box market.

Hell, again, per your article, Sony even already offers a keypad/mouse combo.

u/MrBogard · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

I've only used this one personally. The keycaps are pretty cheap, and it's certainly nothing to write home about, but I still think it's pretty solid for the price. There may be better options though, this is just the only one I have direct experience with.

u/oversizedpen · 2 pointsr/buildapc

Hello friend, I have a black and red build and I indeed was looking for good peripherals to match just like you. I ended up buying the Red Dragon Kumara which was surprisingly cheap for being mechanical and backlit. I got a Razer Deathadder Chroma to match with the keyboard, as it is RGB and can be customized to any color you'd like.

u/_BoneZ_ · 2 pointsr/MouseReview

There are tons of different ones. Besides what have already been mentioned:

The top-rated UtechSmart Venus:

The Redragon Perdition:

The Havit MMO mouse:

Those are some more options besides the G600. Redragon has excellent reviews. All the mice I've listed above have excellent reviews. All you have to do is choose. :)

There's also the Logitech G602. The 602 is more comfortable for me as I can't stand the ring finger rest on MMO mice. The 602 can also use 1 or 2 AA batteries for weight purposes which lasts for months. Further, the 602 has several extra buttons up top, one of which can be used as a shift button to turn those 6 side buttons into 12.

u/Epicepicman · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

The Masterkeys Pro L is on sale for $135 right now. I have a Pro S (the tenkeyless version) and it works wonderfully. If you don't care about RGB there's a cheaper one with white LEDs as well.

People on this sub tend to not recommend Corsair and Logitech boards because of their nonstandard bottom row (it's harder to get custom keycap sets for them) as well as the lighting being tied to software (which sounds good in theory, but they're usually really buggy and overly complex). If you really particularly like their features then go for it; they're certainly not bad at all.

u/NostalgiaDad · 2 pointsr/classicwow

This fits a full sized laptop with a number pad and room to use my gaming mouse. This is what I've been using for a mouse. It's even better for healers imo but also works well for hunters and melee dps. Putting different heal ranks or traps and shots on different mouse number rows really free'ed up my bars
UtechSmart Venus Gaming Mouse RGB Wired, 16400 DPI High Precision Laser Programmable MMO Computer Gaming Mice

u/Arm-the-homeless · 2 pointsr/buildapc

Hiraliy F300 Gaming Mouse ($17)


Redragon K552-N Mechanical keyboard ($27)

$44 total. Cheaper than the Redragon $50 bundle and the mouse is better.

On your budget you don't need the lights on the normal K552, though you could grab that for a few dollars more if you really want them. The Redragon M711 Cobra is a good budget mouse option as well, same sensor. Though it may be a little more expensive, I didn't look. I like the Hiraliy a little better, the cord doesn't snag as much.

I really wouldn't go any cheaper on the keyboard or mouse, you could probably find a membrane keyboard or a slightly cheaper mouse and get the cost down to around $30 but it's really worth it to spend the extra money.

u/Chaliandra · 2 pointsr/buildapc

Yep the Dell s2716dg, its an excellent monitor. I upgraded from 1080p @ 60hz to this one, and its WOW. Its like night and day, the system normally runs games at 130+ fps, so having a monitor that refreshes at that speed is astounding. The only thing is that the monitor is a TN panel, so you get that wierd discoloration if you look at it from an angle. But I never play games with my monitor at a 90 degree angle, so i'm good. Haha.

Most of my games (Overwatch, Skyrim, Diablo III, Dota2) run at 130+ fps, with CPU intensive games like Watch Dogs 2 and Battlefield 1 at around 110 fps at stock CPU speed (3.8ghz). I OC'd it to 4.8ghz recently and it brought my fps in Battlefield 1 to around 130-142 fps, but also raised my temps from the mid 50s to mid 70s.

The mouse is a RGB MMO gaming mouse and the keyboard is the Razer Blackwidow Ultimate edition, which I'm planning on replacing sometime this year with a keyboard with RGB lighting (the blue doesn't really work with my red computer scheme, lol)

u/yooman · 2 pointsr/RPi_Arcade_Build

If you want wireless retro controllers, you could use these wireless SNES controllers with one of these SNES-to-USB adapters. Also, a regular Xbox 360 controller with one of these receivers would work (even though it says "for Windows," i believe there are good Linux drivers for Xbox 360 controllers). The controller connections will all be USB, with whatever USB adapters you want.

Edit: the SNES-to-USB eBay link I had posted went dead. Replaced it with a different one from Amazon.

u/DMC831 · 2 pointsr/EliteDangerous

Nice, only 30 bucks on Amazon! Just to confirm, it's this model right--

I should get it just to have a nice gaming mouse at the very least, I've never had one. And I got Amazon gift cards burning a hole in my e-wallet for forever.

I could get it, and then when I eventually get that yearning to make the change (I'll need to be in the mood) I'll be all ready to go.

u/JoieDe_Vivre_ · 2 pointsr/buildapc

Oh I know the feeling. My girlfriend thought it was the funniest thing that I was so excited to build my own computer haha.

So I know you said you're pretty set on the keyboard, but I thought I'd show you this cheaper mech keyboard. There's even one that has RGB. I have the red backlit version and I love it so far. You could spend the difference on a 1070 I think.

Either way its going to be an awesome build!

u/-DoodleBob · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

get o rings. they make mechanical keyboards silent af with that sweet sweet mx blue feel

oh and this is my suggestion:

u/hon0 · 2 pointsr/hotas

T16000 Hotas. Or Thrusmaster TWCS throttle + VKB Gladiator MKII if you can spend a bit more to get a smother Gimbal. And Joystick Gremlin to allow throttle - stick communication (and more).

u/RussellTJK · 2 pointsr/buildmeapc

I personally like this mechanical keyboard from Redragon. Good, cheap and fully mechanical

u/anavrintobin · 2 pointsr/Games

You could always get an adapter and use an original snes controller :D

u/Aadrian1234 · 2 pointsr/EliteDangerous

I want to buy a HOTAS but want to make sure I won't constantly be reaching to my keyboard mid-flight, if I just get something like this would I have any difficulties with Yaw controls, secondary fire, buttons to switch weapon groups, targeting buttons, etc? I've never used or owned one, and want to make sure I'll be able to use almost all the functions I need with it.

u/unforgiven60 · 2 pointsr/wow

If you mean how hard is the physical pressing action, it does not take much pressure. The buttons are small. I'd say it's about the same amount of pressure to push one as it does a normal key on a keyboard.

If you mean how easy is it to reach all of them? All 12 buttons are concentrated in a rectangle that measures probably 1"x2". For me, reaching buttons 1-9 is pretty easy without even having to shift my thumb at all. Buttons 10-12 took some getting used to but now it's second nature.

The biggest hurdle is just adjusting your muscle memory to using the mouse buttons for the majority of your actions. It took several play sessions to get used to it. To be honest, I felt like I was pretty worthless at first because I'd get lost in the heat of battle trying to remember what key I needed to hit. Lost several GCD's every now and then and also casted the wrong spell plenty of times. After a few sessions, it all pretty much clicked though and now it's second nature.

Don't switch to this style and expect an immediate improvement. You will get worse before you get better. Just like if you totally change up your keybinds, your body has to adjust.

Here is the mouse I bought. It's pretty cheap, so hopefully if you think it will help you, the investment is minimal. They make higher dollar ones that are probably better, so you can check those out too if you don't like this one.

They call them MMO gaming mice. If you want to search for that on amazon

u/Vizen · 2 pointsr/starcitizen

I have a HOJAM setup with a t16000 and an mmo mouse (18 keys total on the mouse.)

Right now, I have strafe left set to the left key on the top of the joystick, strafe right to the right key, strafe up set to the biggest key on the joystick, and strafe down set to the trigger.

Things like 'cycle friendly' and 'target nearest hostile' are set to the hat on the joystick.

Pitch, yaw, and roll are set to joystick (the mouse does no flying.)

Speed up, slow down, decoupled strafe forward, and decoupled strafe backward are set to the two keys behind the scroll wheel (originally dpi keys.)

Scroll wheel forward one click enters decoupled mode, another click forward exits decoupled mode.

Scroll wheel backward is velocity 0/100

afterburner is set to what I call the 'Don't Panic' button, a red button to the left of my left click.

3 button on mouse is fire 3

6 button is fire 4

9 button is cycle countermeasure

12 button is release countermeasure

8 and 11 cycle through the hud focus (shield screen, power distribution screen, etc)

4,7, and 10 are power to weapons, power to shield, and power to thrusters

5 is equalize power

2 is hud interaction mode toggle

1 is space brake

The numpad on the keyboard is still used for shields, but since I mainly use a 300i, I might do away with equalize power (5) and hud interaction mode (2) keybinds and make those shield distribution keys. I do like the idea of having one mouse profile for all ships though.

Missile lock/launch is mouse wheel button

I use mouse to aim gimbaled weapons.

This is probably not the most efficient setup, but it works for me and it might help you get a setup that you are comfortable with. A side effect of this setup is that I can't grab a mouse without putting three fingers on top of it now; one finger for left click, one finger for mouse wheel and the thruster keys, and one finger for right click.

my mouse for reference.

u/cheezywafflez · 2 pointsr/anime

I... think that's the same keyboard I'm using?

Didn't want to splurge on a fancier one so I cheaped out, but it's still pretty solid imo

u/CMDR_CrobaR_o7 · 2 pointsr/EliteDangerous

so, this is really all based on a person's preference. there are quite a few HOTAS's that are used for this game. they vary in price, quality, and number of buttons/hats/switches/etc.

here are some examples of "reasonably priced" ones:

Thrustmaster T.16000M

Saitek X52 Pro (or you could go with a non-pro version to save $50)

You can always go to Amazon and/or do google searches for reviews and other HOTAS systems. I hope this has helped you though. Good luck, and fly safe, CMDR. o7

u/FS_JayMartinUSA · 2 pointsr/joinsquad

How do you play with only two thumb buttons? ;)

I play with a Perdition Redragon . 12 thumb buttons, only six are really accessable. All my comms are on the mouse. Local, Squad, Command, Discord.

Anyone who's ever played with me knows... I always mix up my comms.

To command: "Sorry squad, it looks like we'll have to take this point by ourselves. Squad 1 is busy standing beside their mortars. " Also to command: "Sorry, wrong comms."

(SL1 usually doesn't say anything for the rest of the game)

u/Revuleh · 2 pointsr/TibiaMMO

I suggest Reddragon predition...I have got this mouse for over a year and no problem whatsoever. It comes with special program where you can assign 12 side buttons to any key you want. Also its half price of Razer.

u/Waltz_Beat · 2 pointsr/ffxiv

I use a Redragon Perdition M901. Its relatively cheap, has 12 side buttons for the hotbar and has a trigger button in the place I like to assign my push-to-talk.

u/Porsche95turbo · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

It does say Thrustmaster, but they're not headphones. It's the Thrustmaster T.1600M FCS Hotas

u/iCeCoCaCoLa64 · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Dude, my friend plays the shit out of Paragon and he'd love this. Entering.

u/mysticmanESO · 2 pointsr/elderscrollsonline

I use a 12 bottom on the side MMO mouse to play ESO for me it makes play a lot easier.

This is the one I've been using for 3 years to play ESO but there are a lot of those brands out there.
Redragon M901 PERDITION

u/plankingdom · 2 pointsr/buildapcforme

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU | Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor | $219.99 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler | $24.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $49.99 @ Amazon
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory | $52.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Crucial BX200 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $114.99 @ Amazon
Case | Thermaltake Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case | $49.99 @ Micro Center
Power Supply | EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $39.98 @ Newegg
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $83.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor | Acer H236HLbid 23.0" 60Hz Monitor | $120.98 @ Newegg
Keyboard | Redragon S102 Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse | $39.99 @ Amazon
Other| RX 480 8GB| $200.00
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1037.68
| Mail-in rebates | -$40.00
| Total | $997.68
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-26 03:07 EDT-0400 |

Recommended system requirements for Legion are substantially lower than what your going to be buying, I'm talking 3-4 year old parts. As far as WoW is concerned you'll be able to play it until 2020 with little to no issues.

If your going to be waiting a month or so for the release of the 480 you should check out buildapcsales to buy parts that may be an upgrade to a part that you've already settled on at that price point.

I would also suggest getting something like the Reddragon 901 the extra thumb buttons when used properly can make a huge difference in reaction time.

u/-iSapien- · 2 pointsr/EliteCG

Shit!! My joystick broke 2 days ago and won't have one again 'till Christmas morning.

Good Wifey got me HOTAS

Please, please take your time with this one.

u/tylertitties · 2 pointsr/gamingsuggestions

Not sure about games per se, but I have this mouse that could help with the 1 hand thing:

I have this mouse at home and wouldn’t trade it for anything. You can program every button to do basically whatever you’d like. You could play an FPS with it if you really wanted to by mapping the side buttons to WASD.

u/davidsredditaccount · 2 pointsr/Games

~$100 for a hotas, ~$150 for dual sticks. That's entry level with the Thrustmaster T.16000M, it's a good stick that is the best option for a left hand stick and runs ~$75 if you can get it when it's in stock, the stick/throttle combo is ~100.

If you are unsure what you want I'd start with the Hotas and if you decide you want a second stick later on you can either get another T.16000M or buy a better right hand stick and swap the grip for left hand use. Plus that gives you a throttle to use for other games that either don't support or just don't play well with dual sticks.

There is also the potential to use a stick/mouse combo, left hand stick for movement, with a mouse to control aim.

u/subcat · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

how does this sound?

u/Sahaul · 2 pointsr/wow

I've used the exact same setup for years now and love it. Left CTRL is push to talk, so shift/alt are my modifiers of choice.

I had one of the original Razer Naga Epics, and I loved it but it had its share of issues. I repaired the switches numerous times until I finally cooked the little PCB inside it while attempting to re-solder in a new switch. I tried out both the new Razer Naga Chroma and the Logitech G600, but the side buttons were ridiculously easy to press by accident (at least compared to my original Naga). I ended up buying a Redragon M901 and absolutely adore the thing. It's cheap as hell and the build quality seems better than the Razer one. It's lasted me three years so far. I use the extra button on the top for the "extra action button" that periodically pops up in game for quests/events/raids.

u/Reiker0 · 2 pointsr/classicwow

I have this one which is apparently programmable. I'll have to mess with it some time to see if I can just macro some weird key combination to fake having extra buttons.

u/Gadsden · 2 pointsr/arma

Currently this one, and I love it. But I've flown like that with the cheapest of logitech and thrustmaster sticks as well.

The T-16000m HOTAS has made my flight smoother, because it has longer travels on the stick and throttle, which translates to finer control.

u/T01110100 · 2 pointsr/MouseReview

Keep in mind that most of these will have a generic stiff shit cable nor can I promise the shape will be for you.


If you also plan on playing FPS with it:


For 20 USD(!) back at 30 USD, the Havit HV-MS735 is a pretty good budget option. Has a 3360 sensor, 12 grid, side scroll, and is ~107 grams with the internal weight removed, which isn't too bad for a 12 grid mouse, not to mention it being at the current price that it is.


At 30 USD, the updated Redragon M901 is the lightest 12 grid mouse available with a 3360. Has an additional button on the left side, and doesn't require any opening up to remove the weights. Weighs in at only 87 grams without weights.


At 60 USD (50 refurbished), the Corsair Scimitar is a 12 grid mouse with a 336X variant. Has the gimmick with adjusting the 12 grid, which is actually not too bad because if a 12 grid doesn't sit exactly right, you either lose full functionality or comfort. Unfortunately weighs a buttload at ~120 grams, which is normally a deal breaker for some.


Of course the Naga Trinity, which has the side panel gimmick. If the cable is like any recent Razer mouse, it'll have the best cable of the bunch by far. Also ~120 grams, so another monster in the weight class.


If you don't care about having a good sensor:


Logitech G600 at ~34 USD is an okay mouse. Logitech software is a lot better than Synapse and the crap the Chinese OEMs have. Has a pretty garbage sensor in it though, so FPS is going to be a no go.


Honestly though, the HV-MS735 and M901 are good. Unless you insist on using a mainstream mouse or dislike Chinese OEM software, the Redragon M901 is amazing due its weight class and the HV-MS734 is a budget god at 20 USD is still really good at 30 USD if you want side scroll.

u/Trendd · 2 pointsr/WildStar

As someone who owns a g600 (bought it FOR W*) I cannot reccomend it enough and it is worth the money. Having said that there are cheaper mmo mice. I nearly bought this one before the g600 went on sale last month

u/SkeletonInProgresss · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

I love Razer. I love how much they are doing for the gaming scene and eSports scene.

That being said, I have gone through two Blackwidow keyboards and three Naga mice. I wouldn't say that I'm hard on my accessories, but they do see a fair amount of use. My mice lasted around a year to a year and a half on average. When they worked, they were excellent, but too quickly did I start to have problems with the laser.

Since then I bought this random Reddragon mouse that was half the price on amazon and I have put it through about three years of work and it's still holding up great.

Razer looks great, works great for a while, but I compare it now to the beats by Dre, strong marketing and appearance, but low quality for the price.

u/relevant_pet_bug · 2 pointsr/buildapc

Honestly, I'm not the best person to ask about Wifi.

This card is considered one of the best for the price, and comes with blue tooth built in. It also may be out of your price range. Then again, wifi is not great for Online gaming, so if you plan on using WIFI a really good card will benefit you.

As for keyboard and mouse. Again, budget is important. $25 logitech KB/M combo cheapos will get you by until you either break the keyboard from banging on it in like 6 months like I did with my first build in 2013, or can afford better.

Since cherry lost the patent on mechanical key switches, chinese knock off mechanicals dominate the budget range. You have to be careful, as some brands like eagletech are just the same rebranded generic mechanical KB sold by a million different vendors.

The king of Budget chinesium Mechs is the Redragon Kumara K552. You can look up reviews if you want. /Edit: here is one. Also, the Kumara uses blue switches which are more of a typing switch then a gaming switch, and those switches are cheapo knockoffs. Still the kumara is an excellent starter mechanical.

This is an interesting starter Mechanical. It comes with reds which are a pretty standard gamer switch. Reds, blacks and browns are considered gamer switches, also weird shit like speed switches. This keyboard allows you to swap out the key switches if you don't like the ones it comes with. It is limited to Otemu, which of the big 4 keyswitch companies is considered the weakest. It goes Cherry≥Gateron>Kailh>Otemu>>>>>>Chinese no names. Sometimes Gateron swaps with cherry in the ranking, and Kailh does some unique and cool stuff like their box switches are really good, close to or equal to cherry or gateron. I'm typing on Kailh boxes right now. However, Otemu's are still miles above no name chinese knockoffs.

As for mice. The Bog standard starting good mouse is the logitech G203. I have the wireless version, the G305 and Personally, I find the shape of the mouse to be kind of boring. I prefer my ergonomic Roccat Kone Pure Owl Eye, as it fits my hand well, and the shape I like. A lot of people hate the shape of the Roccat, and a dude at work swears by the G203, which is funny cause the kone is superior in terms of internals.

The best place to pick out a good mouse is and his youtube channel here. I am not going to bother suggesting anything else, as hand size and grip style matter. I'm just going to say go there are research.

u/GamerGrunt · 2 pointsr/Eve

Redragon Perdition. Naga knockoff that is better than Razer's over priced crap.

u/Grhule · 2 pointsr/classicwow
u/sicklyboy · 2 pointsr/sysadmin

Bought my brother a Redragon Kumara for Christmas and liked it so much I bought one for myself to use as a spare. $40 TKL with off-brand greens.

u/Lux-uk · 2 pointsr/MMORPG

Depending on how much you want to spend there is a lot of budget alternatives for a 12 button mouse. Just go on Amazon and search '12 button mouse'

An example.

I have been using this mouse for years since my Razer Naga broke as well.

u/krokadilas · 2 pointsr/EliteDangerous

I got the [T.16000M FCS] ( and it's perfect. Apparently was designed with ED in mind working with frontier.

u/Sturdge666 · 2 pointsr/runescape

Redragon Perdition.

Not as high quality as a Corsair Scimitar or a Razer Naga but it's cheaper.

When this one dies I'll likely grab a Corsair Scimitar, since I'm wanting to upgrade my keyboard to a Corsair Strafe anyway.

u/MistyToast · 2 pointsr/leagueoflegends

Here is my exact Keyboard and here is my Mouse Although I don't use any of the thumb buttons for league.

u/wrenagade419 · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

no not refurbished, it's brand new for that much.

here is amazon link

for 35 bucks, i figured it's be cheap and break pretty quick or have issues. nope. there's other redragon mouse designs too, gotta assume they are just as good. I want to say they are in line with razer nagas but that may be a bold statement, my brother has a razer, i honestly think the redragon feels a bit.. sturdier, but that's just feel, says nothing about real quality, which, i think they are pretty much even. The software that comes with it is great, set your dpi settings, theres i think 4-5 settings, and tqo buttons behind mouse wheel to switch between them (up and down) and you can customize each one, so like 800 for one, 1200 for another, whatever you want up to 16400 dpi. mousewheel changes color to indicate what setting you're on. The logo and the numbers light up which you can customize that color and if it pulses and how fast. I constantly recommend this mouse to people looking for a cheap, quality alternative. and i think it has 5 star rating on amazon with 2512 reviews. Keep your options open but i can't say enough good things about the price and quality of this mouse. I play overwatch, ffxiv. Love this thing. 34 for black, 37 for the white one, which i wanted but my case is black and i kept that theme.

u/FiveCentsADay · 2 pointsr/army

The TM T16000 is what I have and I love it. It’s all plastic, but it’s very sturdy plastic. And it fits the Elite aesthetic if that matters to you

u/Deyndra · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

New to the MK community:

What do you think of this keyboard ? I found it and it seems really affordable, but says the switches are "Cherry Blue equivalent" making me think that they are not necessarily as good. Would it be possible to take the keys off and replace the switches with the same keycaps at a later date?


u/ardneh · 2 pointsr/KerbalSpaceProgram

Can't tell if you're joking or not but hotas is hand on throttle and stick e.g. I bought

u/throwthatoneawaydawg · 2 pointsr/wow

Not answering your question but here is a great alternative mouse. I've had it since early 2015 with no problems at all. Red Dragon

u/n3onis · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

I have a Chinese VicTsing mechanical keyboard for ~$45 with Outemu blue switches. It's been doing its job for more than a year now and have nothing bad to say about it. The build quality is really good with a heavy, metal backplate. The actuation point of the switch is at the exact same position as the tactile feedback, although you can keep pressing the key if you hold it below the bump (read it's the same with Cherries). Definitely worth the money in my opinion if you aren't willing to spend big bucks on a keyboard.

I wanted to go with Redragon K552/K551 (numpad version) but it was hard to get in Europe. I would recommend it if you are from the US. Redragon seems to be a popular choice in cheap peripheral alternatives. Their keyboard also uses the Outemu blue switches.

Edit: more details

u/pressured_at_19 · 2 pointsr/battleofstalingrad

if you're flying DCS and BoS, I would suggest getting a HOTAS yes. The Logitech Extreme 3d Pro is somewhat a HOTAS and is very good but the Thrustmaster ones you listed are better but if you can afford this one, it'll be the right fit.

TrackIR is very much recommended but it's pricey. I suggest you try out flying first without it and see if you'd really want one. Using trackhats in your stick to look around is cumbersome after I had a TrackIR myself.

u/The_Shadowfox · 2 pointsr/natureismetal

Yeah, my Naga's cable crapped out a couple months after I bought it. Since then, I bought a Redragon Mouse that's very similar and it's been going well for about a year and a half now.

u/zushiba · 2 pointsr/IAmA

Wow that was way more information that I had anticipated. It's clear that you've given it a lot of thought.

Honestly as a somewhat fully enabled person myself, I had problems with The Witcher 3 on launch too. I just couldn't wrap my head around some of the default key binds and was happy that I could change them.

I know that WoW somewhat recently added a lot of color blind options for I think the 3 most common types of color blindness. I have no idea how successful they are.

Have you looked into any of the crazy MMO specific mice? There's a few that I'd think would be almost perfect for a usecase such as yours. The Roccat NYTH is fully modular, letting you place the physical buttons in different configurations, remove buttons or add different sized buttons. Then there's those mice with a hundred buttons on the side like the UtechSmart Venus or the Razer Naga. One of those might help you eliminate your keyboard turning. Though, we've had people in our raids that for one reason or another needed to use the keyboard rather than their mice and they seemed to do just fine. I think the whole "Keyboard turning" vs "Mouse Turning" is a similar argument to keyboard & Mouse vs Console Controller.

The reason I ask is not only do I have friends who've been in somewhat similar situations, thought not quite as extreme and because in my line of work I have to implement measures to support people with different abilities.

I'm a programmer at a college who's currently interim webmaster until we find a new one and I have to implement 508 Compliance.

u/Jmana1123 · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

45 Gateron Blues, TKL, Red LEDS

60 Magicforce, 68K, alot of people like this one.

40 To be honest never heard of this one, huge bezel, "blue" switches, and just 40$.

70 QFR, Genuine Cherry blue switches, TKL, great board all around

65 Genuine Cherry TKL

u/NOLAEducator · 2 pointsr/ffxiv

I bought this a couple of weeks ago on the recommendation of someone in game. I love it so far. He said he’s had his for over a year with no problems.

u/Thetomas · 2 pointsr/starcitizen

"BEST" probably the THrustmaster warthog Hotas, but also the most expensive (I just bought the joystick alone for 270 to use in my HOSAS setup, can't wait till it delivers on friday)

"best VALUE" probably the thrustmaster 16000m combo. The thrustmaster stuff seems to be the only sticks that use the "HALLS" system, and between that and regular sticks, the difference is night and day (i've compared it to CH flightsticks, microsoft, and logitech stuff...)

My suggestion is to consider HOSAS as well (hands on stick and stick), as I enjoy the number of analog degrees of freedom a joystick for the left hand provides. (16000m can be modified for the left hand, the warthog joystick, and many others, are right hand only.

As for VR, SC isn't really there yet, but I have a vive and know it's awesome. The recent price drops on the oculus are going to drive a lot of people their direction, but I don't regret buying the Vive in the least, and might still do it if I were buying today (but to be fair, i hate facebook).

as for touchscreens, there's some apps for android tablets that allow you to use them as "additional screens" which have game controls on them. It's like bringing one of the in game ship control panels into real life. They're super neat, but I don't actually use them, so I don't have a solid recommendation. Check out the Roccat Powergrid.

u/Jolly_Green_Giant · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Sad to say but Razer is actually synonymous with BAD quality. They're overpriced for what they offer and they're quality control is abysmal.

With a budget of $300, you can basically get any of the prebuilt off the shelf keyboards.

What kind of size are you looking for? The keyboards are classified by the amount of keys they possess.

Let's start at the beginning. You're surely used to the fullsize keyboard with numpad and everything. Examples: CM Masterkeys Pro L or Ducky Shine 5

Do you feel like you want the numpad but want a smaller board? You can go with a TK (ten key) or a 96 key layout (these are not the same). CM Masterkeys Pro M or RS96

Do you want to drop the numpad? You'll have a huge pick from the amount of TKL (ten keyless) boards or a 75% layout (again, these are not the same). MK Disco or Ducky One

Find that you don't use the nav cluster or the function row that much? You can get a 60% or 65% keyboard. Pok3r or Leopold FC660M

Do note that any of the missing keys can be found on layers (which means you press the function key to access them, only one additional keypress for much more compactness)

You can go even smaller by dropping the number row and getting a 30% or 40% keyboard. MiniVan or Planck

Then there are the split keyboards that you can buy or build. The Mistel Barocco or the Ergodox EZ are some options if you want some

u/Theawesomeiman · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace
u/sealcouch · 2 pointsr/Games

Just keep in mind that it only works with SNS 002 controllers and not SNS 005. I tried a few of them to no avail.

Works beautifully. I wouldn't change a thing about it.

u/eggsbenefic · 2 pointsr/ffxiv

The mmo mouse will definitely help, I have this one and it works amazingly well!

u/MowTin · 2 pointsr/oculus

You really need a HOTAS for flight sims in VR. This is a good price. It will be the best thing you ever bought.


u/SomeRandomIGN · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Only one I can think up off the top of my head. Only comes in Outemu Browns though. That and it uses a dongle, no BT.

Don't pull trigger right away though, someone may have something better.

I dunno if there is any wireless TKLs less than 30 US, but the wired form of this board is 10 less, but it seems out of stock and I can't access the link to it (Also brown only). If you really wanted blues, Redragon K552 uses Outemu blues only, although I don't personally like the bumped up logo and it is wired:

u/Omni_X · 2 pointsr/ffxiv

My bad, it is actually a UtechSmart mouse(same concept though)...

UtechSmart Venus Gaming Mouse RGB Wired, 16400 DPI High Precision Laser Programmable MMO Computer Gaming Mice [IGN's Recommendation]

u/TheActualBoneroni · 2 pointsr/Guildwars2

OP, I see a lot of comments telling you to get an mmo mouse. I'd like to take a moment to recommend this cheap device that I've been using heavily for about 3 years now and still works fantastically. It comes with software that allows all 12 side button and even an alt click to be programmed to any key/action/macro (I have my alt click programmed to double click for all those pesky loot bags). The color of the lighting is fully customizable as well as the DPI of the mouse movements, and all of these can be set to 5 independent profiles that can be switched at the push of a button. There are also weights that can be added/removed to change the mass of the mouse to your preference. The only hangup I have is that the software can be finicky at times but once you've found a setup or two that you like there's no reason to use it anymore because the information is stored on the mouse. Can't recommend it enough.

u/powermad80 · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

This is a pretty great entry board for the price, for trying out the feel of a mech before going all out.

Knockoff cherry mx blue switches, and a bit clickier and louder than the cherry blues too.

u/Skylerys · 2 pointsr/wow

I have the same issue with hand and arm pain. Few weeks ago I got this mouse and it is awesome. Really great build quality and price. I snagged it for $25 on sale. My friend also has it and loves it.

u/Mrbrodude123 · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

I'm a bit uneducated when it comes to keyboards. I decided on this one

u/PardonMyLagg · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

I would recomend my daily driver the UtechSmart Venus MMO Mouse witch is $37 USD its really good quality and has a lot of the same features of the naga, g600 and scimitar.

if you dont get the above one id probably go for the scimitar.

u/Zaxus125 · 2 pointsr/Guildwars2

Mouse buttons are my savior. In PvP, I find it incredibly useful to be able to still move with my left hand, while attacking with my right hand (and camera movement).

That said, I used to use a Razer Naga, but the right mouse button recently died on me. I just picked up a Redragon Perdition ($37 on Amazon) and I am pleasantly surprised at its quality for that price.

u/t4n6 · 2 pointsr/mechmarket

This is a better option if you want something more easily customizable, since the Corsair doesn't have a standard bottom row.

u/obsidian713 · 2 pointsr/buildapc

Here is the mouse I've been using. Redragon Perdition 16400 DPI High Precision Programmable Laser Gaming Mouse for PC, MMO, 18 Programmable Buttons. It's as good as a $100 mouse but this one is $35:

Edit: here is my gaming mousepad:

u/Roygbiv856 · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

No problem. Said you needed a mouse and keyboard too. I just use logitech wireless mice, but this keyboard is great for the money. I love mine

u/Andele4028 · 2 pointsr/Guildwars2

You dont really need one, but if you dont go for the Naga Hex (tho careful they break naturally quite fast), id recommend a Redragon Perdition over the normal Naga or the G600 because of its shape, macro options and matte surface.

u/ronoverdrive · 2 pointsr/ffxiv

This is what I have been using for 2.5 years now. Went to this from a Razor Naga that was like twice as expensive that lasted maybe 1 - 1.5 years tops before breaking. Live an learn I guess.

u/Mind_Killer · 2 pointsr/buildapcsales

This is a great deal, one of its better prices I can see.

This one dropped in price because the large full-size one dropped down to $120 a week ago. Both are great keyboards, but if you prefer a numpad for whatever reason you can get that one on sale, too...

Both are Cherry MX Brown, the other switches aren't on sale. For the small version, the Blue is down to $98, which is a decent low for it.

u/dieterschaumer · 2 pointsr/buildapcsales

It looks remarkably similar in overall design to my cheap MMO mouse in aesthetic design, yet is from a different chinese company. Knockoffs of knockoffs?

I can't speak for a mouse I don't own, but incidentally I'm very happy with the oddly named Venus. I got it for ~$30 and the grippy material they cover the mouse with feels cheap, but otherwise everything is very functional. Comes with replacement teflon pads too. Don't know how long it will last, but the reviews are very good.

u/SilkenB · 2 pointsr/Warthunder

dot has better quality, i think the dot is actually a newer version of the dash one.

Here are links:



T.16000M With Throttle Included

CH FighterStick

u/Weaston · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Idk about canadian things, but this is a great board (stay away from Razer if possible, nonstandard bottom rows and not really worth what they charge):

u/Antaniserse · 2 pointsr/patientgamers

As already suggested, that stick is perfect with all the classics arcade space sims: all the title from the X-Wing series, Freespace series, Wing Commander series and also more recent games even if, with the more complex ones, you'll need to be a little more creative with the mapping software/extra input peripherals, since that stick is a bit light on available buttons

If you can expand the budget a bit, this model is more recent, has better sensors and way more control options... better choice IMO, especially since you are considering ED

Absolute must play for me are TIE Fighter (but i've always had a sweet spot for the first X-Wing) and Freespace 1+2 with the FreespaceOpen engine port

u/LordSocky · 2 pointsr/ffxiv

Redragon Perdition. I took a gamble on a cheap Chinese mouse when my Razer Naga died after six months, and it paid off. This mouse has served me well for almost two and a half years of heavy use.

I use the thumb buttons to switch between combos for each class, because why waste space for buttons I only need sometimes? I got tired of reaching for the buttons and decided to bring the buttons to me. I started with this system when Samurai came out because the rotation was absolutely incompatible with my old layout, and just adapted it to every class I played afterwards.

I forgot to mention, the source bars on top are normally hidden and are just shown to demonstrate how the macro system works. It doesn't actually physically switch the hotbar, it just copies the skills to hotbar 1.

u/orokro · 2 pointsr/emulation

I recommend the Mayflash one:

It creates two "game controllers" in windows, like this:

It's cool that a single USB device allows you to use 2 SNES controllers - and it's decently cheap too! Way better than having to buy 2 or 4 separate devices.

Caution: you may be tempted by SNES-USB controllers (SNES clones that have USB built in) I tried one of these and it's horrible - the buttons weren't as responsive as a real controller and overall it felt cheap. That actually made me dig out my real controllers and buy the adapter.

>No idea why you'd want to use the N64 controller

It's not THAT bad. I'm kinda like a purist - I like playing the games like I did growing up. It's hard to find a controller that matches the AB + C buttons, and I don't like using "L2" as Z. Yeah, out of my 3 N64 controllers, one of them has a faulty stick - and the other two... the stick works fine but feels like a "N64 stick," but I like it. Brings me back.

u/gwdope · 2 pointsr/hoggit

I’m about 5 months into DCS. I played some flight sims when I was a kid, 20 years ago, in the Jane’s F/A-18 days, but nothing until DCS. I bought the Flaming Cliffs pack of modules and the A-10C and learned to fly the F-15C mostly at first but slowly read through the 600+ page manual for the A-10C and worked through the training missions and a few campaign missions. The F-15C is great because it doesn’t take too long to learn and you can be having fun shooting down AI flankers in a 10 solid hours of learning and start to get into tactics, the A-10C is definitely the most complicated thing I’ve ever learned for fun. I usually spend a good hr working on A-10C avionics training, then reward myself by jumping in the F-15 when I sit down for a session.

If you do jump into something like the A-10C, I’d recommend getting a quality HOTAS with lots of hat switches, trying to learn the intricacies of avionics and remember keyboard shortcuts and button modifiers is a very big complexity multiplier. I started with a cheap stick then bought the Thrustmaster t16000m and Throttle which works great for F-15, but isn’t quite up to the A-10, so I bought the Warthog stick and use it with the throttle from the t16000.

u/Ayeohx · 2 pointsr/Diablo

My roommates like this mouse. 18 programmable buttons on the mouse.

u/RefreshAzure · 2 pointsr/Guildwars2

Having an mmo mouse can help take a lot off the keys i have 10 things set to the mouse and it make smoother game play as your finger will not have to dash about trying to keep up.

MMO mouse that i use

u/Citrusface · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Here are a few good starter options:

Magicforce 68

Redragon Kumara

Tomoko 87

Personally - I have a Tomoko. I think it's great. It was a little loud so I would recommend adding switch dampeners, heres a picture of my board with Tai-Hao Dark Violet keycaps and some Key Pop 8bit Heart keycaps.

u/tamaralads · 2 pointsr/Random_Acts_Of_Amazon

your daughter is gorgeous! i guarantee you she won’t remember you having to work, but will instead remember all the amazing memories you two have created and will continue to create ❤️ i hope she has an amazing day! here’s some adorable baby animals for her/you to look at❤️ i’ve had my eye on this mouse for ages, it would really improve my gaming experience and gaming is what i spend 99% of my time doing! however it is at the top end of your budget so i’d be more than happy with anything from my under £10 wishlist if you wanted to gift other people as well☺️🥰❤️

p.s. noodles are amazing!

u/thekaoswithin · 2 pointsr/buildapcsales

I picked up this redragon, decent or nah?

u/Joimz · 2 pointsr/oculus

I recently picked up the Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS to replace my Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS X. I would recommend the T.16000M setup over the T-Flight mostly because the throttle and stick are completely separate, which is easy to appreciate when you've fumbled around with the T-Flight's awkward design when it's separated. The T.16000M also feels a bit more robust and having more buttons/options on the throttle (especially in VR) is a huge plus. All that being said, I spent a lot of hours in Elite with the T-Flight and you can't really go wrong with it. I fondly recall the shit eating grin I had on my face the first time I throttled up and instantly felt more 'connected' with my ship. Cheers.

u/LoreCannon · 2 pointsr/EliteDangerous

First thing I will tell you off the bat, get something that's in your budget.

Second... let's talk about what type of setup you want...


You have multiple options, starting with the Thrustmaster HOTAS-X.

At around $50, it gives a satisfying first hotas experience.

Moving up the ladder, you get to the T16000M and it's FCS pack.

If you are lucky, you can get this pack on sale for as low as $89.99 on Amazon, and it offers a great package with plenty of toggles and buttons to fully accommodate E:D's controls. You can even add pedals later on down the line, or pick them up as part of one big package.

Further up the price ladder is the X52 suite of controls. Two options are available, in the flavors of the X52 FCS at around $150 and the X52 PRO at around $200. The differences between the two are less pronounced than the jump from the HOTAS-X to the T16000, but it has some "nice" features for scripting and supposedly higher quality components.

Granted, even after Logitech purchased Saitek, the build quality on these former Saitek sticks is ... so-so.

Another great option is CH's products.




Despite other offerings in the HOTAS world between the X52 Pro, and CH offerings and higher caliber offerings - ignore them.

The X-55 and X-56 are MESSES when it comes to build quality, and it's a crapshoot if you get one that will last.

Your next HOTAS offering is going to be the Thrustmaster Warthog - but you will absolutely need pedals. Which means you're looking at offerings from CH, like the CH PRO PEDALS.

And if you get the warthog, I HIGHLY recommend you use Aussiedroid's scripts and bindings. They are intuitive and utilize the entirety of the throttle and stick.

If it's in your budget, I recommend getting MFG Crosswinds.

Also, VKB makes some T-rudder design pedals that work well.

VKB T-Rudders

However, before anyone tells you differently, or says pedals are shit for yaw. I AGREE, DON'T USE THEM TO YAW. Put yaw on your stick left and right, pitch up and down, and ROLL on your pedals. Right pedal forward, roll right, and left pedal forward roll left. Anyone who does it differently is crippling themselves, especially in PVP. This is a space sim, we don't have to fly space ships like we do aircraft. ROLL ON PEDALS, I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.

Past this point you have offerings from VirPil and VKB, both of which make the best of the best products. They both have better gimbal designs, and stick designs, and come in around $400 for a stick. However, there is no throttle currently, as of this moment, produced by either.

Alternative Setups

One way of side stepping the pedals situation is running dual-sticks, or hands on stick and stick. This has a slightly higher initial cost than most of the cheaper HOTAS options, but also negates the needs for pedals. The caveat being you need sticks that can be used in both left and right hands.

But thankfully, Thrustmaster has you covered. They offer the T16000M in a dual-stick package. Or you can purchase them separately.

You can also buy two separate Warthog sticks, at around $200 each, and get Okona (/u/cavortingwebeasties) over at to convert one over.

VirPil's Mongoose can be setup for ambi use, and VKB will be announcing a left handed Gunfighter grip at SOME point. VKB Gunfighter can be found here.

u/Pokehunter217 · 2 pointsr/EliteDangerous

Ive been looking at a lot of reviews and such, and settled on this t16000 thrustmaster has a pretty good rep and it seems to have better reviews than pretty much anything else under $400. If your budget is big though, ignore this.

Edit: Found someone's keybinds, it has a lot