(Part 3) Best african american demographic studies according to redditors

At ease soldier. Just war theory exists for a reason. We're waging war with evil oppressive men.

Combat will depend on your mos. I'm a seminarian for the archdiocese for the military services. If you need to talk privately or need help finding a good chaplain let me know. I have strong connections at Ft. Gordon and West Point if that helps.


EDIT : [I strongly advise that if any of you want to learn more about Just-War theory to get this book and read it!] (http://www.amazon.com/Just-Theory-Readings-Social-Political/dp/0814721877)

Class-based affirmative action is an oft-cited alternative to race-based affirmative action, because Americans would rather ascribe social concerns to class rather than racial inequities.

Regarding the oft-cited Espenshade quote: he elaborated that he "does not think his data establish[es]” an anti-Asian bias, because his study with Radford, which was the centerpiece of No Longer Separate, Not Yet Equal, only accounted for "objective" numbers such as GPA and SAT scores -- not extracurricular activities, personal statements, or other extenuating circumstances that are typically considered by private schools. The Espenshade and Radford study also found that race-conscious affirmative action creates more diversity on college campuses than any other form (and they used over 7 models that featured combinations of considering/not considering income, test scores in general, and race). Whether one believes diversity on college campuses is valuable is a personal matter of consideration, of course, though the Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that this is a legitimate reason for affirmative action to exist, at least for the time being.

Race-based affirmative action tilts admission outcomes in favor of historically underserved and underrepresented minorities, but one should not fall for the whole-to-part fallacy and believe that race is the first thing admissions committees look at. It's usually a more distant factor in determining admission, behind all of the other things I've listed. It's easy to believe that race is a primary or secondary consideration because we look at the numbers that the admissions process produces, not the entire process of admission, and draw conclusions quickly.

Also, this may not be entirely relevant, but Unz's "analysis" in The Myth of American Meritocracy (a mostly admirable article, one must admit) that allowed him to conclude that Jews have fallen precipitously in academic achievement while maintaining ludicrously high levels of Ivy League enrollment is at best, specious, and at worst, complete bullshit.

Personal perspective comment: I can say with some confidence that as an aggregate, Asian students are weaker on the non-quantitative aspects of college admission. They (and their parents) mull over joining clubs and performing extracurricular activities explicitly for the purpose of admission and nothing more, and the lack of conviction shows on college applications. Keep in mind that most Asians, like any other people, are merely average.

tl;dr: Class-based affirmative action is popular but race-based affirmative action is more effective for diversity, an explanation SCOTUS approves of. Asian students need a higher SAT score to get in college, yes, but it's not just because the deck is stacked against them; there are some things they need to work on. Ron Unz tried too hard to call out the Jews in his book-length article about higher ed.

-an Asian who cares too much about this issue

There's a lot of discussion of the form, "is (individual) racist?" or, "are (group members) racist?" This is a similar question, and most of the time, it's the wrong question.

Whether Jordan B. Peterson, in his heart-of-hearts harbors a hatred of women is unknowable. If that's your standard for misogyny, it's going to be hard to answer, just as it's hard to establish using a similar standard that Donald Trump and every single person who voted for or accepts him is a racist.

Fortunately, in addition to being unknowable, it's not really relevant either. For things like this we need to move to a second order definition, an operational definition. The reason it matters that people are misogynist or racist is because, putatively, those prejudices perpetuate social structures that lead to injustice; but what matters is the perpetuation of the structure of injustice, not the personal prejudice that might lead to it!

This is so, so important, because injustice can be perpetuated with only the most subtle individual prejudice, and perhaps without any at all. This is a mainstream idea in the academic world (e.g., here's a great book discussing this in the context of race), but I notice in popular circles people still widely argue about whether individuals or groups "are racist" or not, rather than discussing whether their actions and beliefs reinforce racist or misogynist systems.

So, now that I've rambled about how I think this should be discussed -- does Jordan Peterson reinforce the continued reality of injustice towards women? Yes, constantly! His entire worldview and everything he says is explicitly constructed as a defense of traditional structures, and thereby he works to reinforce any traditional prejudices therein. Considering his obsession with defending the status quo on gender, he definitely incentivizes traditional misogyny in both individuals and structures.

TLDR: Is Jordan B. Peterson, the man, a misogynist? It doesn't matter; Jordan B. Peterson the social agent is part of a feedback loop that reinforces a traditionalism that entails various mechanisms of gender oppression.

(and here's another thing I saw recently about Jordan Peterson just being a very superficial thinker in addition to whatever else he might be)

My ex studied Afro-pessimism so I know that there is writing about this. But I haven't read any of it so I was just wondering if there is a specific term for this phenomenon. I suppose anti-blackness is probably the best one since it reflects how white supremacy still exists in non-white cultures.

Edit: I've had this book on my radar for a while, and it seems like it covers the topic specifically.

That's so cool! I'm glad you know so much already about your family. Some things I'd wonder about (and might answer through talking to relatives or reading books):

• The Creole experience -- there's lots of stuff about this, of course.
  
• The free black experience in St. Louis. Everything I know about this comes from a museum exhibit, but it seemed pretty interesting.
  
• Did your Creole relatives move from Louisiana to St. Louis? If so, when? What was going on (in both states) that might have prompted that?
  
• Was your maternal grandfather in the military before it desegregated, and if so what was that like? What was the end of Jim Crow like generally for your relatives? (I think either your parents or your grandparents would have gone through school desegregation?)
  
• Is either side of your family religious? If so, which denomination(s) do they belong to? What's it like being black in that denomination? If not, why not, and what's their black agnostic/atheist experience like?
  
• Your parents' experiences--you say they were raised around white people, but they both married black. Where did they meet, and how? Did/do they have any particular feelings about interracial dating/marriage? On your mom's side, what was her military brat experience like?
  
• Did you have any relatives who passed? (I do!) What were the circumstances? How does the family talk about them? Are there people who could have passed and chose not to?
  
  I don't know if you've read it, but I would suggest the book "Our Kind of People"--it's flawed in many ways, and my family was never an upper-class black family, but I found a lot of resonances to my own family in it, and from your description of your family, I think you may too. Another suggestion would be "The Warmth of Other Suns", and particularly the experiences of Robert Foster, a Creole doctor who moved from Louisiana to California in the 1950s. (I'm not sure if your family is readers, but see if you can get your parents to read it; I suspect they'd really enjoy it, and it would open some good conversations.) Finally, keep an eye out for "Black Elephants in the Room", which is being released in October and is about the particular experiences of black Republicans.

Just a quick list off the top of my head:

Ida B Wells

Malcolm X

Ella Baker

MLK

The women and men who burned slaveowners' houses down, poisoned them, and incited riots that killed the slaveowners (For those that want to read on the women who killed slaveowners, here is a book that mentions some of those cases)

John Brown

Great discussion about how problematic it is to expect every victim of racism, police violence, or deportations to be perfect in every regard.

Link to Charlene Carruthers book.

here is one example.

I can see your point, honestly. I guess I'm just trying to be diplomatic and point out that there is SOME validity in what he said. Not a direct "it ain't my fault" validity, but a recognition that there's a link between things like extreme poverty and crime, and that statistically groups that are more represented amongst the poor are that much more likely to be more represented amongst the criminals. This also cuts across race.

Now, THAT said, there is also strong evidence that CULTURE and not just economic status ties into the effects that we see. A very controversial study was done and published about just this sort of thing (http://www.amazon.com/Black-American-Students-Affluent-Suburb/dp/0805845151):

> John Ogbu has studied minority education from a comparative perspective for over 30 years. The study reported in this book--jointly sponsored by the community and the school district in Shaker Heights, Ohio--focuses on the academic performance of Black American students. Not only do these students perform less well than White students at every social class level, but also less well than immigrant minority students, including Black immigrant students. Furthermore, both middle-class Black students in suburban school districts, as well as poor Black students in inner-city schools are not doing well. Ogbu's analysis draws on data from observations, formal and informal interviews, and statistical and other data. He offers strong empirical evidence to support the cross-class existence of the problem.

This created a firestorm of shit and accusations of Uncle Tom apologist vied with "he's not an American black" (author was from Nigeria).

So if you swap out "group" and insert "culture" in my first post, maybe I'm a bit clearer.

We might just be both describing an elephant, having got hold of two different parts of it.

This is the King that they killed and its the King I follow politically.

Interesting book written by Korean American academics: Koreans in the Hood: Conflict with African Americans

Description:

> Conflict between Korean Americans and African Americans attracted national attention in the aftermath of the 1992 Rodney King trial in Los Angeles. The news media seized upon the violent riots and depicted Korean shop owners as gun-wielding exploiters of the African American poor. Absent from the barrage of media coverage was the Korean American point of view and experience of the inner city economy and racial relations. This new volume of essays written largely by Korean American scholars adds substantially to our understanding of interracial, multiethnic conflict by examining relations between the Korean American and African American communities in three major American cities: Los Angeles, Chicago, and New York.
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> Edited by sociologist Kwang Chung Kim, the book brings together similar yet contrasting studies of Korean American and African American conflict. Korean Americans find themselves economically powerful, but weak politically. African Americans, however, wield considerable political clout even though they may have little economic power. Koreans in the 'Hood offers the Korean American perspective on coexisting with African Americans in some of the poorest areas of American cities. Each chapter focuses on a particular city and experience, offering a unique opportunity for inter-city comparison as the contributors explore three overt forms of Korean American and African American confrontation: interpersonal dispute, boycott, and mass violence.
>
> The first part of the book examines Korean American experience of the conflict in Los Angeles. It then details the social, political, and economic tensions arising from the African American boycott of Korean fruit and vegetable merchants in New York. The final chapters concern the Korean American experience of conflict in Chicago. Throughout, the authors rely on empirical data and seek to trace the roots of conflict, the consequences, and future directions of relations between the two groups. What emerges is an unique account of Korean Americans caught between the poor African American population and the larger, more affluent white population.

The Meaning of Freedom and Other Difficult Dialogues.

The Abrahmson Effect.

Men Explain Things to Me.

I love this idea.

I'll add some of my own, and I hope others do too:

• Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville
  
  
• The Two Reconstructions: The Struggle for Black Enfranchisement by Richard Valelley
  
  
• Civic Ideals: Conflicting Visions of Citizenship in U.S. History by Rodgers M. Smith
  
  
• Black Reconstruction in America, 1860-1880 by WEB DuBois
  
  
• John Brown by WEB DuBois
  
  
• Race and Reunion: The Civil War in American Memory by David W. Blight
  
  
• Behind the Mule: Race and Class in African-American Politics by Michael Dawson
  
  
• The War That Forged a Nation: Why the Civil War Still Matters by James McPherson
  
  
• The South's Tolerable Alien: Roman Catholics in Alabama and Georgia, 1945-1970 by Andrew S. Moore
  
  
• Old Times There Are Not Forgotten: Race and Partisan Realignment in the Contemporary South by David Sears
  
  
• Obama's Race: The 2008 Election and the Dream of a Post-Racial America by David Sears
  
  
• Judgment Days: Lyndon Baines Johnson, Martin Luther King Jr., and the Laws That Changed America by Nick Kotz
  
  
• Bearing the Cross: Martin Luther King, Jr., and the Southern Christian Leadership Conference by David Garrow
  
  
• Town Born: The Political Economy of New England from Its Founding to the Revolution by Barry Levy
  
  
• Raising Racists: The Socialization of White Children in the Jim Crow South by Kristina Du Rocher
  
  
• Paths Out of Dixie: The Democratization of Authoritarian Enclaves in America's Deep South, 1944-1972 by Robert Mickey
  
  
• The Second Civil War: How Extreme Partisanship Has Paralyzed Washington and Polarized America by Ronald Brownstein
  
  

“If you can control a man's thinking you do not have to worry about his action. When you determine what a man shall think you do not have to concern yourself about what he will do. If you make a man feel that he is inferior, you do not have to compel him to accept an inferior status, for he will seek it himself. If you make a man think that he is justly an outcast, you do not have to order him to the back door. He will go without being told; and if there is no back door, his very nature will demand one.”

http://www.amazon.com/Mis-Education-Negro-Carter-G-Woodson/dp/086543171X

You are brainwashed. The school and the prison are administrated by the same governing body. The same body that sets the policies for both. Crimes are anything the self-same body decides they are. Most of the people who are in jail don't belong there, most of the people who belong in jail have the money to avoid prosecution.

You are a slave and you don't even realize it! Look at yourself. You are arguing that you don't deserve rights, that you aren't good enough to have rights.

You can read the first few pages in via Amazon's "Look Inside" feature: http://www.amazon.com/Behind-White-Picket-Fence-Neighborhood/dp/146961863X/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8

She says the neighborhood is almost evenly split racially b/w black white and latino and that there's a Food Lion in or near it. OWD? Lakewood? If her stats are from the 2010 census, it shouldn't be too hard to identify which neighborhood matches.

Affirmation Action has not been proven ineffective. It is somewhat, though not perfectly, effective. Check out The Shape of the River (source) for good data.

lol..just checked on amazon..its there..bloody expensive tho http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nigger-Bible-Robert-H-DeCoy/dp/0870679813/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1321140078&sr=8-1

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> the whole point of the war was to end slavery was a front

I'm currently reading a book that has mentioned this a few times. (Amazon link) The big difference is that this book gives no positive credit to any white person at any point. So it seems that both white and black racists can agree that Lincoln did not care about the plight of black people.

I'm 34, and this is the first I've ever heard this. I wonder what the shred of truth is to this, or if maybe it actually is the truth.