Best alpha lipoic acid supplements according to redditors

Personally I use Now Foods brand for most all of my supplements.
I've been using their Policosanol, Alpha Lipoic Acid, Green Tea, and Super Odorless Garlic for 5+ years now.
Mind you, this is simply my opinion. I've not tried many other brands nor kept any records to compare results.

Coenzyme B-Complex

When I forget to take this for more than a couple days or run out and don't get more right away my anxiety comes back with a vengeance.

I dunno where you read about magnesium, but it's never helped anxiety for me anyway... It helps sleep and poop but not anxiety.

I have problems with dry skin in the winter (not just during pregnancy) but I use this Derma-E with bare minerals matte powder for foundation. I have really sensitive, acne prone skin and this moisturizer does the job without leaving my skin oily. I usually add it right after I get out of the shower when my skin is dry and then when my skin gets really bad and flaky I add another layer of the moisturizer after the first layer is nice and dried. Usually does the trick!

alright here goes my exhaustive list of stuff that goes into my preworkout! i love to research the stuff that works, and then experiment to see how effectively they work for me, especially on keto.

1. 1 scoop of pre jym from bodybuilding.com - just because i don't want to add all those ingredients (good compared to most) on my own and it tastes pretty good (raspberry lemonade). it does, however, have 4g carbs per scoop - https://www.bodybuilding.com/store/jym/pre-jym.html
   
   
   
2. 1/2 scoop of optimum nutrition hydrowhey protein powder (about 15g protein) - fast digesting preworkout protein seems more logical than just bcaas. keeps me satiated during my workout and seems to boost recovery times because i have the full gamut of proper amino acids in my bloodstream as exercise-induced insulin rises. turbo chocolate and chocolate peanut butter are my favorites. vanilla surprisingly sucks and gets very foamy - https://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/platinum_hydrowhey.html
   
   
   
3. 1 tsp curcumin powder from bulk supplements - expensive but 1kg lasts a long time - go to examine.com to see the dozens of benefits it has across the board. i use this to help alleviate my disc issues, but it feels great for workouts because it reduces inflammation everywhere, especially joints. you can get pills instead, but they're not as cost effective and i like to blend it into my shakes. MAKE SURE YOU PAIR IT WITH BIOPERINE (already in pre jym but super cheap anyway) OR GET THE BIO AVAILABLE TYPES. otherwise, only your gut will get the benefits -
   https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GHY364A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
   
   
   
4. 1 digestive enzyme pill - research has shown that such enzymes not only help with what you'd expect, digestion, but also boost muscle synthesis, immune system, reduce soreness, etc. - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RH5K26I/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
   
   
   
5. 1 tbsp extra citrulline malate - because 1 scoop of pre-jym doesn't have the clinical dose of around 8g. research has shown that it reduces soreness and speeds up muscle repair. i believe it helps performance as well - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EYDJU50/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&th=1
   
   
   
6. EDIT: 1/2 tsp (not 2 tsp) extra beta alanine - because 1 scoop of pre-jym doesn't have enough. this stuff kinda acts like creatine, boosting the number of reps you can do. especially helpful on my high rep/speed days. great for crossfit types of workouts if you're into those. i like the tingly feeling as well - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EIO4I8E/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&th=1
   
   
   
7. 1/2 tsp potassium citrate - i take electrolytes before and during my workouts -
   https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ENSA93S/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&th=1
   
   
   
8. 1/16 tsp magnesium glycinate - one of the most bioavailable forms of mg and doesn't mess up your digestion -
   https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F7OZJR8/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&th=1
   
   
   
9. 1/2 tsp calcium citrate - Ca and Mg go well together in the body. also, multivitamins rarely hit the RDA for calcium -
   https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F8I5XPG/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&th=1
   
   
   
10. 1/2 tsp pink salt - sodium! need lots of it because i sweat a lot - https://www.samsclub.com/sams/himalayan-pink-salt-5-lb-fine-grain/prod20131268.ip
    
    
    
11. 1/4 tsp vitamin c - i take a lot of vit C to help with disc healing. collagen synthesis requires vit C. of course, great anti-oxidant, great for skin, etc. -
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AYIM9Y8/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    
    
    
12. 1/2 tsp ALCAR - i supplement this mostly for the nootropic effect (boosts the brain and concentration), but it supposedly helps with fat breakdown and energy a little bit. i feel razor sharp concentrated during my workouts with this. also, it's just plain old good for the brain. -
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E7H96DY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&th=1
    
    
    
13. 200 mg L-theanine - smooths out the jittery feeling from caffeine to provide more stable energy. also good before bed to get higher quality of sleep. -
    https://www.amazon.com/BulkSupplements-Pure-L-Theanine-Powder-grams/dp/B00E7GESLA/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1492089341&sr=8-1&keywords=bulk%2Bl-theanine&th=1
    
    
    
14. 100mg pill RALA - good for the nervous system and energy - https://www.amazon.com/Doctors-Best-Stabilized-R-Lipoic-BioEnhanced/dp/B000I4C19G/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1492089382&sr=8-1&keywords=doctor%27s+best+rala
    
    
    
15. 200mg coq10 - good for the heart, boosts energy a bit - https://www.amazon.com/Doctors-Best-Absorption-Bioperine-Supplement/dp/B00HRGN36S/ref=sr_1_2_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1492089466&sr=8-2&keywords=doctor%27s%2Bbest%2Bcoenzyme%2Bq10&th=1
    
    
    
16. 320mg saw palmetto extract pill - good for men's prostate health, keeps good testosterone high (instead of DHT), and for me, prevents the hairloss that creatine (i think) has induced. not just bs bro science, go to examine.com for research. i personally have regrown a lot of hair by taking 2-3 three of these a day for the last three months! - https://www.amazon.com/Doctors-Best-Palmetto-Softgels-Count/dp/B006RQ6TAG/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1492092375&sr=8-1&keywords=doctor%27s+best+saw+palmetto
    
    
    
17. 1 tbsp psyllium husk powder - keeps my digestion on track, prevents the indigestion i tend to get from MCT oil - https://www.amazon.com/Bulksupplements-Pure-Psyllium-Powder-grams/dp/B0100QRXOO/ref=sr_1_2?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1492092483&sr=1-2-spons&keywords=psyllium%2Bhusk%2Bpowder&th=1
    
    
    
18. 10g MCT oil - i either use brain octane or miCkey T Eight because they are pure C-8 caprylic acid instead of blends of the crappier acids. definitely boosts energy during long workouts. careful, it tends to mess with your stomach if you don't ease into it. if you're good with coconut oil, you're probably good with this. - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RUCHISS/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    
    
    
19. 100mg hyaluronic acid - helps with joints and skin. i have noticed my knee and elbow pain going away while taking this. skin complexion also improved. - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00663G8WO/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    
    
    currently experimenting with:
    
    
    
20. clear muscle - i usually supplement HMB, but this is the newer liquid variant. its pricey, and i haven't noticed anything bad about it, but it's hard to say if it's working better than the much cheaper powdered HMB. studies are probably very biased, so i can't really trust them - https://www.amazon.com/MuscleTech-Advanced-Strength-Building-Capsules/dp/B00JQ3WXS4/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1492094034&sr=8-1&keywords=clear+muscle
    
    
    
21. phospha muscle - phosphatidic acid has shown some promise in studies, but again, probably biased research. also cannot tell yet, but i have seen some decent strength gains pairing this with clear muscle. we'll see! - https://www.amazon.com/MuscleTech-Phospha-Clinically-Phosphatidic-SoftGels/dp/B00UVAG1PM/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1492094155&sr=8-1&keywords=phospha+muscle
    
    
    phew! making this list made me realize how much time and effort i put into the trial and error of my preworkout. of course, i supplement a lot of this stuff with my other meals as well. as you can see, i'm very big on supplements, biohacking, and nootropics. i read up a lot on research in my spare time.

Benefits? I went from almost falling asleep during the day to bursting out of bed in the morning to still having energy into the evening. Although ZMA (Zinc, Magnesium, B6) has improved my sleep quality 1000% which helps a lot, but I just started taking it regularly recently.

My current daily stack is:

• ZMA at night
  
  
• NAC x2
  
  
• Acetyl-L-Carnitine x2
  
  
• Alpha Lipoic Acid x2
  
  
• Vitamin D - 10,000IU (I get no sun, ever)
  
  
• N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine x2 (just started, really helps)
  
  
• Fish oil
  
  
• Multivitamin
  
  Other things I'll throw in intermittently:
  
  
• Alpha-GPC (Choline supplement so your brain can more easily make acetylcholine. Helps with brain fog / attention)
  
  
• A racetam (Piracetam, Phelypiracetam, Anaracetam) or noopept (Nootropic. See r/nootropics)
  
  
• C60 (woo/fringe antioxidant)

I'm no expert on the matter, but after spending years researching and going to multiple doctors, I finally came across something called small-fiber neuropathy. Look up the symptoms, see if they match up with what you're dealing with, since symptoms can range so much for people. Fibro is confused with small fiber neuropathy a LOT (which honestly I feel like fibro is just a blanket diagnosis when a real diagnosis can't be determined, but that's just my opinion). There is actually a test for small fiber neuropathy where they do a biopsy. May be worth looking into.

After going down that path with one of my doctors, he suggested trying alpha lipoic acid, again after tons of research, I came across this specific brand that had raving reviews:

BRI Nutrition Alpha Lipoic Acid Softgels - 60 Count 300mg Fast Absorption Liquid Softgels https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00R0F2OUC/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_GMb5xbW37QN7X

I was very sceptical at first because most Supplements don't do shit, right?

I can NOT swear by it enough. My nerve pain was almost 100% gone after a week of taking one pill twice a day with meals (600 mg total). When I finished the bottle I tried another brand and it was NOT effective, the nerve pain came back. Got another bottle of the BRI brand, and again after just 2 days I can feel it decreasing. I stopped taking 2/3 of the prescriptions I was on.

I wish I could share this with EVERYONE because most people I've talked to have never heard of this. And like most people, I had been placed on every drug imaginable with little to no improvement except just being a numb zombie, who likes to live like that!?

If you've spent near as much time, money, and effort as most people have, I really really honestly think you should give it a shot, $18 is nothing compared to the hell we have all experienced, right!?

Either way, good luck, and I hope you've found your path to treatment!

I'm going through the same thing right now. I recently started using HabitRPG as a fun little way to keep track of things I should be doing and rewarding myself when I keep on task. Here are some of the little rituals I've started doing:

• Make my bed every morning. I know, everyone suggests this. I thought it was BS until I started doing it a month ago, but it's that one little thing that reminds me that I have control over my life.
  
• Take vitamins and medication daily - for me, it's a daily multivitamin, Vitamin D, fish oil, Claritin, and an antidepressant. I don't know how much the vitamins are helping me (I know the medication is), but again, it's the little things sometimes.
  
• Do something self-affirming daily - I've been trying to do a few tasks on Happify every day as well as track my daily mood and what I've done to improve it, like get enough sleep, eat enough, talk to supportive people. I guess it's my half-assed attempt at self-administering cognitive-behavioral therapy.
  
• Nightly spa ritual - when I get out of the shower, I slather myself head to toe with moisturizer. I've been thinking that I need to add a facial mask to this at least once a week.
  
• Dishes off of counters and out of the sink before I go to bed
  
• Drink more water and less soda and alcohol all day every day
  
• Daily stretch/exercise (I've actually stopped doing it, but I really should start again. DailyBurn helped, but there's only so much I can take of super cheery exercise people before they start to piss me off.)
  
• Eat dinner at home every night (unless I'm having dinner with friends/family) - my go-to has been a baked chicken breast + a bag of microwave veggies, though on the weekend I'll try to make a nicer one-pot meal. I'm one of those terrible people that can't stand eating leftovers, so the "make a big batch of something on the weekend" doesn't really work for me.
  
• Make sure all the trash is in the trash can and everything is in its proper place before I go to bed
  
• Try to clean one room every day - usually a surface clean, like wiping off the mirror and sink in the bathroom, or scrubbing the stove, or dusting the living room. For bigger tasks, save it for the weekend and try to do one small part, like clean off a desk, or get everything off the floor. I need to start focusing on this again myself.
  
• Vacuum the apartment once a week.
  
• Make sure my dirty clothes are in a hamper or bin and not on the floor before I go to bed
  
• Wash the laundry and hang it up when it's clean (my least favorite thing to do, but it's so nice when it's done).
  
• Clean my makeup brushes once a week. It's a little annoying waiting for them to dry though (I should buy a second set of makeup brushes...)
  
• Really, just cleaning schedules in general
  
  Also, set up a list of general to-dos, like getting a haircut, talking to a family member/friend that you haven't connected with in a while, or a twee little project from Pinterest that looks easy and will help organize your stuff (I have a corkboard necklace display and a magnetic makeup board on mine). When you're thinking "Man, I wish I had something to do right now," you can go to that list and cross something off.
  
  Hopefully there's something on here that you or someone else will be able to use.

Here's what I'm thinking of putting together:

BCAAs (Edit: Just realized this is not vegan friendly)

L-Arginine a-Ketoglutarate


L-Citrulline DL-Malate


N-Acetyl L-Tyrosine


Beta Alanine


Creatine Monohydrate

Alpha Lipoic Acid

Maltodextrin


Waxy Maize

I'm currently using a mix very similar to the above listed ingredients and it works very well!

I would like to just take a pre-mixed powder, but it seems like they all have caffeine, which I'm not a fan of for working out in the evening.

I'm also somewhat interested in Agmatine Sulfate and Phenylethylamine. Anyone have any opinions on those two chemicals?

I take these:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0013OQGO6/ref=sr_ph?ie=UTF8&qid=1426729112&sr=1&keywords=jarrow+formulas+b12

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0013OXDHE/ref=sr_ph?ie=UTF8&qid=1426729128&sr=1&keywords=now+eve+capsules

It is part of the subscribe and save program which is awesome because I note how often I need them shipped (every 3 months, 4 months, etc.) and it ships them then to me automatically.

These two are ones that I've personally used and have faith in the brand itself as very good. Not saying there are not others that are just as good, just that these two I can vouch for personally.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000I4C19G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

http://www.amazon.com/San-Nutrition-Na-r-ala-60c-Bottle/dp/B0016687K2

Try Jarrow R-ALA, good evidence for help with neuropathy

I know this response is horribly late (and I'm still not sure what typical reddit etiquette is regarding old threads). But here is my (more or less) full list of items I buy from Amazon Japan.

The rules here for what goes on my list: 1. Only keto, diet, or supplement related items. 2. Only items I've bought at least twice, and which I plan on buying again in the future:

95% Dark Chocolate https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B00XXP3SF8/

Grass-fed Butter https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B01EUN292O/

MCT Oil (plain) https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B013MW3B4Y/

MCT Oil (with lauric acid) https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B01BGBP0FQ/

Macadamia Nut Oil https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B000TKDKUS/

Almond Powder https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B003VD2QSW/

Chicken Bone Broth (powdered) https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B01N3P6CKU/

PQQ+Q10 https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B00V9DCL8G/

Theracurmin https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B008CWSQ4K/

Krill Oil (Omega3) https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B016LSX9MK/

Vitam K2 (MK7) https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B00O4BQIQQ/

Alpha-lipoic Acid https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B0062FTLCU/

R-Lipoic Acid https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B014RSAP3W/

Nicotinamide Riboside https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00NPXDXNA/

B Vitamin mix https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B000YZL0Z0/

Lion's mane supplements https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B00FF31ZQ0/

L-Tryptophan https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B00L1VUOM6/

Potassium (Citrate) https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B000BTA4DI/

Acetyl L-Canitine https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B000NRXO8A/

Vitamin E https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B0020R8Z2Q/

Vitamin D3 (with 'probiotics') https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B01J4UQUBE/

Magnesium https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B00E3S51HM/

Creatine Monohydrate https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B004EI6GOI/

Hemp Protein https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B00KXVR4DW/

Grass-fed unflavored Whey Protein https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B016M0YCFK/

Some decent ground coffee https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B075HVFPD9/

Sous Vide bags https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B07D7S7BXL/

There are actually quite a few more supplements and items that I don't purchase very consistently, and others that I'd rather purchase in person at the store.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/SAN-Na-R-ALA-Capsules-Pack-60/dp/B0016687K2/ref=sr_1_3_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1521630714&sr=8-3&keywords=narala

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Protein-Dynamix-L-Carnitine-Weight-Supplement/dp/B0117SSJ24/ref=sr_1_2_s_it?s=drugstore&ie=UTF8&qid=1521630764&sr=1-2&keywords=alcar

Would the two above be what you are talking about? When would you take them? How many? All other generic answers that would help

I think you are right in that I need to mimosa the comedown if she is truely going to look back and say she enjoyed it

P.s. can you define afterglow...

I am buying nerve health supplements because I am recovering from an acoustic neuroma - (and with vitamins many doctors think they do nothing - so keep that in mind) Nervestra Nerve Health Support Supplement, Alpha Lipoic Acid Vegetable Caps, Methylcobalamin (Methyl B12), 1000 mcg, Lozenges and Centrum but I am not taking anything for the ear for hearing health maintenance.

Anyone want to recommend any vitamin/herbal supplements for hearing heath maintenance?

While I am aware of medical literature that says vitamin supplements do nothing - it never made sense to me why vitamins absorbed in foods are good but via pills is bad (if the pills were of good quality and contained the ingredients they contained).

Last reply before I need to get out of the house. Yes, fighting hunger can be tough, especially in the last hour or two of the 16-hour fast. I fight it by drinking water and coffee (not to excess, just a cup when hunger begins), and by staying busy with work to keep my mind off it. [Edit: R-Lipoic acid also has proven appetite-suppressant, weight loss effects.] It gets easier with time, as your body learns to accept a certain level of hunger, which sometimes even passes on its own. That, I believe, is a function of the body's improved handling of insulin levels. Just keep in mind that the human body didn't evolve to be constantly fed. For most of our evolutionary development, we experienced frequent but temporary levels of hunger as we hunted and gathered, before agriculture gave us a more steady supply of food, so remember that enduring a bit of hunger is actually much more healthy and natural than feeding the sensation the moment it pops up. After just a few weeks of intermittent fasting, contrary to myth that "breakfast is the most important meal," I felt noticeable improvements in energy and mental clarity throughout the day.

For my eating window, I don't bother trying to eat a commensurate amount of calories. I just eat normal-sized meals, without eating excess carbs (I'm not fully keto) in order to avoid blood sugar spikes and crashes. I have lunch at the end of my 16-hour window, then a protein bar or some trail mix for a light snack mid-afternoon, then a normal, healthy dinner. When I have lunch the next day depends on when I eat dinner (+16 hours, of course). I consume absolutely no food or sugar during the fast period (drink coffee black), as this will cancel out the benefits of the fast.

Good luck and take care.

ALA in it's alpha form isn't the best product to take. You end up pissing out most of it. It doesn't absorb well at all. Ever notice your urine stinks when you take it? R- Lipoic Acid is absorbed much better.

R-Lipoic Acid This is the one I take. I started taking it for the very reason you claimed, it helps when you overdue a carb here or there and with me being hypoglycemic and occasionally having bouts of reactive hypoglycemia (esp when I eat to much protein) it helps keep that under control. I keep taking it because of the antioxidants benefits.

[This] (http://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formulas-R-Alpha-Supports-Vascular/dp/B005C99OWO?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00) is the one i got because it was linked in another thread i found however i believe its only R-Ala. Can you clarify the difference of the two?

Vitamin shoppe allicin 6000. It was just BOGO

R-ALA

Bulk supplements Green Tea Extract, also off Amazon

Almost exact same here but I'm improving profoundly after 4 months of barely being able to smell or taste much. I have been searching for the answer and this is working for me: bioenhanced alpha lipoic acid: https://www.amazon.com/Doctors-Best-Stabilized-R-Lipoic-BioEnhanced/dp/B000I4C19G lion's mane mushroom make sure it's the biomass of the mushroom like the one below: https://www.amazon.com/Lions-Mane-Mushroom-Extract-Adaptogenic/dp/B06XJVR45D/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?keywords=shroom+lions+mane&qid=1573020531&sr=8-4
smell training: https://abscent.org/learn-us/smell-training
Acupuncture worked but briefly. Don't take the steroids it's only a temporary fix and it is terrible for you. Good luck!

Rock on!

Links for you:

Alpha Lipoic Acid - http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000I4C19G/0781-20

Acetyl L-Carnitine - http://www.amazon.com/Doctors-Best-L-carnitine-Featuring-Carnitine/dp/B000NRXO8A/ref=sr_1_3?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1374905270&sr=1-3&keywords=acetyl+l-carnitine

To your health!

BulkSupplements D-Aspartic Acid (DAA) Powder (500 Grams) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E7JO0EW

Supplements info: https://www.reddit.com/r/DrugNerds/comments/15m9sf/mdma_supplementation/

You can get this stuff from amazon:

Alpha Lipoic Acid - Amazon US; Amazon DE

Chelated Magnesium - Amazon US; Amazon DE

It is not that expensive and its point is to help your body with the side effects of the drug.

Also, as promised, here are all the supplements I do take to ensure proper liver/kidney functioning. I mentioned this in my previous thread and someone PM'd me about it:

http://www.amazon.com/Spring-Valley-Milk-Thistle-Concentrated/dp/B0026QKEXY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1396637353&sr=8-2&keywords=milk+thistle

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NRTWKO/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QUL2R4/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i02?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (I'm a big fan of this, seems to help in a LOT of ways)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0019H141C/ref=oh_details_o07_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001AWWC4O/ref=oh_details_o07_s00_i03?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (This is more to help combat any, uhhh, constipation from Kratom, and is good if you are worried about any fungal or bacterial things on the kratom you are getting)

And then I mentioned these strips earlier to test at home, they are a fantastic bargain:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003VSMDOE/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I highly recommend if you are a daily user like myself to invest in those. If you can afford kratom, you can afford that. And if you can't, let me know because I'd be happy to buy a few more boxes that have 100 in them and pass them along to people in need.

Yeah they're a little lower than what's recommended but they'll work. They've got the vitamins but are lacking magnesium, which helps with jaw-clenching. And TUMS taken when you drop will extend the roll.

Also get some antioxidants like this to take before: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0013OXBH6/0781-20

The antioxidants will help you feel less fried the next day.

Our current stack looks like this and is still a work in progress. Please comment as to what might be better options, thanks!.

Updated 8/30:

Protein Smoothie - Garden of Life, 1x/day in am
https://www.amazon.com/Garden-Life-Organic-Vitamins-Probiotics/dp/B007SYT7LO/ref=sr_1_4_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1503340441&sr=1-4&keywords=garden%2Bof%2Blife%2Bprotein%2Bpowder&th=1#customerReviews

Green Drink - Garden of Life, 1x/day in am w/ prot smoothie
https://www.amazon.com/Garden-Life-Vegan-Superfood-Powder/dp/B00FB1S988/ref=sr_1_2?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1503340620&sr=1-2-spons&keywords=garden+of+life+green+superfood+powder&psc=1

Multi - Centrum Silver then changing to Pure Encapsulations, 1xday in am w/ breakfast
https://www.amazon.com/Pure-Encapsulations-Multivitamin-Essentials-Hypoallergenic/dp/B00CBYG1L0/ref=sr_1_4_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1503339918&sr=8-4&keywords=pure+encapsulations+multivitamin

Lecithin (phos choline) - Moms Organic Market sunflower<br /> no link<br /> <br /> Fish Oil - Nordic Naturals, 2x/day in am/pm<br /> https://www.amazon.com/Nordic-Naturals-ProOmega-2000-Lemon/dp/B017UTEA4K/ref=sr_1_30_s_it?s=hpc&amp;amp;ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1503340380&amp;amp;sr=1-30&amp;amp;keywords=nordic+naturals+fish+oil<br /> <br /> B12 - Jarrow Forumla Methyl, 1x/day in am<br /> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VE9B9II/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;amp;th=1<br /> <br /> Ginko - Moms Organic Market, 2x/day in am/pm
no link

L-theanine/Gaba - Allergy Research Group, 2x/day in am/pm
https://www.amazon.com/Allergy-Research-Group-Vegetarian-Capsules/dp/B000GU4TXI/ref=sr_1_5_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1503340983&sr=1-5&keywords=allergy+research+group

Melatonin - Moms Organic Market, 1x/day in pm<br /> no link<br /> <br /> Digestive Support - Trifal Ayush Herbs, 1x/day in pm<br /> https://www.amazon.com/Ayush-Herbs-Herbal-Supplement-Trifal/dp/B0012ZY6VG/ref=sr_1_11_s_it?s=hpc&amp;amp;ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1503341173&amp;amp;sr=1-11&amp;amp;keywords=ayush+herbs<br /> <br /> Magnesium - Mega Mag Moms Market, 1x/day in pm
no link

Aloe Vera - Solaray, 1x/day in pm - plan to discontinue when done
https://www.amazon.com/Solaray-Aloe-Vera-Gel-capsules/dp/B00014FGHW/ref=sr_1_1?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1503341317&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=solaray+aloe+vera&psc=1

Vitamin C - Viva Naturals, 2x day in am/pm
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C6C3GCY/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

DHEA - Zhou, 1x day in am
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UXLUFJ2/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Phos Serine - Doctors Best, 2x day in am/pm<br /> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036FWOJQ/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;th=1<br /> <br /> Alcarn - Natures Trove, 2x day in am/pm
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NCOTSWG/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

CoQ10- Garden of Life Raw, 1x day in am
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005JAT54S/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

B Complex - Garden of Life Raw, 2xday in am/pm
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0098U0SQO/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Current on order:

Turmeric/Curcumin - Key Nutrition
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LWA6WO8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1ILK2NFE4Q1Q1&th=1

PQQ - Health Through Nutrition
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SA2JLBY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=AP6P3N856MFIS&th=1

Resveratrol - BRI Nutrition
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LPW9X32/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A196A8GC0YNHR&psc=1

Alpha GPC - VitaMonk
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01K13ACDA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=A3PSSFJH9JG29L&psc=1

Alpha-Lipoic Acid - Doctor`s Best
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004O672ES/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

Bacopa Monnieri - Pure Mountain Botanicals
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00S02A1UO/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Ashwagandha - Nutra Herbs
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GZALWGO/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&th=1

Bacopa will be replacing Ginko and Alpha GPC will replace the lecithin. Any other suggestions are welcome, the stack in its current form is a bit unmanageable however it helps to empty the capsules into the protein smoothie in the morning and into a blueberry keifr milk smoothie in the afternoon or early evening.

I experience this too. It can be debilitating. My rheum diagnosed me with neuropathic itch (neuropathy) and Rx'd with Gabapentin. It works really well for the itch but I'm experiencing weight gain, bloating and digestive discomfort so coming off of it. My integrative MD gave me a list of supplements to take for nerve related itch so I'm going to try that for awhile instead. Not sure if yours is dermatological or neurological but may be worth bringing up to your doctor. I went to the derm first and she ruled out any allergies or derm issues though and it was a long trial and error process that left me frustrated but then I raised with my rheum and once I started on gaba it went away.

I've also gotten mild relief with this cream: https://www.amazon.com/Cooling-Pain-Relief-Cream-Extract/dp/B07J4XYM1V/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=stono+creek+pain+cream&qid=1569439664&sr=8-1

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The supplements I'm taking for the nerve itching are:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013OVVK0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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https://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Sustain-Supports-Cardiovascular/dp/B004225FRK/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=lipoic&qid=1569439863&s=hpc&sr=1-9

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0027DWNHQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have read that Na-R-Ala was better because it had a longer half life, so you could take it every 2 hours instead of every hour. I couldn't find any, but I got some Ala time release which releases 600 mg over time instead of taking 150 mgs 4 times during my roll. It's better than nothing I guess. And I will also take vitamin C tablets, forgot to mention it in the post.

You may want to consider supplementing Na-R-ALA alongside the ALCAR because it can be oxidative at higher doses although I've read that under 2g per day should be okay. I've seen ratio suggestions of 2:1 or 5:2 for ALCAR:ALA.

Regardless, I err on the side of caution, plus ALA is a great supplement that synergizes with ALCAR. I take one Genceutic Naturals R-Lipoic Acid 300 Mg, 60-Count with 500-1000mg ALCAR.

I would also suggest that you take fish oil with CDP-Choline because they synergize as well.

the candidiases fungus thrives on sugar and yeast...so basically you cut out all sugar(processed and unprocessed), dairy and grains. This means you just eat meat and vegetables.

Here is a detailed list of what to eat and not to eat

For probiotics I got caprylic acid and this probiotic.

Today I ordered this. I'll let you guys know how it goes.

Best bet is amazon.de I had no real luck finding them any where other than here. Yes a little pricy for all of them, but better safe than sorry.

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0016687K2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00151G8L8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B000BD2KBI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B001DNV5CA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0019GW38G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B000NRYTPM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Thanks pops23, but do you have a theory of why I pee much more frequently when I take the creatine versus not being on the creatine. I actually take it with an ALA pill of 600mg

you need Na-RALA available on amazon

Nope. This is http://www.amazon.com/San-Nutrition-Na-r-ala-60c-Bottle/dp/B0016687K2

Or this one?

http://www.amazon.com/Foods-Alpha-Lipoic-250mg-Vcaps/dp/B0013OXBH6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422403359&sr=8-1&keywords=lipoic+acid&pebp=1422403365907&peasin=B0013OXBH6