(Part 2) Best books on immigrants according to redditors

More like 1967-2016 IMO

The 6 Day War created the messianic "judeo-christian" establishment on the right.

EDIT: also this. thank you based Soros caravans. lol

Yeah, I was genuinely confused. Apparently the problem is that because developers are motivated by profit, they will only ever construct “luxury” units for the wealthy. There was no consideration that allowing more development would incentivIze developers to target other market segments by making those projects more profitable and by saturating the high end of the market.

They also apparently were convinced that the real estate market was unique because it has been so dramatically screwed by high end investment wealth sucking up properties and leaving them vacant. The problem was that real estate has been “commodified.”

There was also a lot of blurring between developers making money by building and selling properties, landlords making money through rent, and owners making money through appreciation.

Edit: On reflection, though, the parking guy was more frustrating. The “profit is bad” guy or gal was at least thoughtful, coherent, and recommended a book that I’m not going to agree with but looks like an interesting articulation of the other side’s POV. Parking dude was just a hypocritical Silicon Valley tech type who seems to think libertarianism is great as long as it applies to other people.

There's probably a whole separate discussion on just how much federal policies that we generally think of as benign -- like New Deal home mortgage support, or the GI Bill after WWII -- were passed through Congress with support from Southern Democrats by making them difficult to impossible to get if you are Black. It's an ugly and ignored part of US history, putting the institutions into institutional racism.

Ta-Nehisi Coates' piece for the Atlantic is a good place to start. Nice summary of redlining in Richmond VA here. David Roediger covers some of it in his history of the construction of "whiteness" among formerly shunned immigrant groups.

TL;DR?

One of the most appealing books I read similar to this, which was written in 1980.

A couple notable things I remember from it is that around the 1910s, blacks had a better literacy rate than many of the new European immigrant groups.

The author's main conclusions were:

1. Blacks faced intensely more discrimination than European immigrants and their children did
   
   
2. Most new Euro immigrants settled in northern cities, which offered better job opportunities and had better schools compared to the South, where a majority of blacks lived. Blacks who moved north did better; but see #1

A Different Mirror: A History of Multicultural America, Ronald Takaki https://www.amazon.com/dp/0316022365/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_t-0WCbZXG70E2

"Beginning with the colonization of the New World, it recounted the history of America in the voice of the non-Anglo peoples of the United States--Native Americans, African Americans, Jews, Irish Americans, Asian Americans, Latinos, and others--groups who helped create this country's rich mosaic culture. 

Now, Ronald Takaki has revised his landmark work and made it even more relevant and important. Among the new additions to the book are: 

--The role of black soldiers in preserving the Union 
--The history of Chinese Americans from 1900-1941 
--An investigation into the hot-button issue of "illegal" immigrants from Mexico 
--A look at the sudden visibility of Muslim refugees from Afghanistan."

Great alternative look at history of the US.

Yes these are hopeful signals. I would add:

• The emergence of tech as the locus of economic growth in the U.S. Asians are underrepresented in leadership in general, but if there's one industry that has more Asian leaders than others, it's tech. Tech is also based in San Francisco, the first city of Asian America.
  
  \> we've seen a massive arrival of smart and hardworking educated mainlanders arrive to western nations such as Canada
  
  Not only smart and hardworking, but more importantly, assertive and unafraid to claim their rights. Those mainlanders don't feel any need to act like guests in America, unlike the generations of Asian Americans that came before them.
  
  All this is great, but remember, it could change in a flash.
  
  https://www.amazon.com/American-Exodus-Second-Generation-Americans-1901-1949-ebook/dp/B07V2BXLJZ
  
  In the first decades of the 20th century, almost half of the Chinese Americans born in the United States moved to China—a relocation they assumed would be permanent. At a time when people from around the world flocked to the United States, this little-noticed emigration belied America’s image as a magnet for immigrants and a land of upward mobility for all. Fleeing racism, Chinese Americans who sought greater opportunities saw China, a tottering empire and then a struggling republic, as their promised land.

1. Thanks for finding the link - without it, I would have guessed the OP was a very clever fake
   
   
2. Damn! the other stories and letters on that page are incredible too.
   
   
3. If anybody is interested, Amazon has one copy left - I would have bought it but its $99.... :( http://www.amazon.com/African-American-Voices-Documentary-Uncovering/dp/1405182687

It's a side-topic, but I'm reading this this book about how MLK and Rosa Parks were essentially hijacked and weaponized by Conservatives to become these Civil Rights fables. Really fascinating.

discussions which omit WW1 but regard 1900-1930 will inevitably revolve around the 1920s. extremely interesting stuff. in my opinion, this is essential reading.

Lynn Dumenil, The Modern Temper, America Culture and Society in the 1920s

Since they were English, consider that they may actually have emigrated to Canada first. The fare from Liverpool was subsidized by the British government to encourage Protestant English population growth in Canada. A significant percentage of new arrivals then went on to the U.S. by crossing into Vermont or New Hampshire -- but those tended to stay in New England or Pennsylvania/New York. By the 1850s, others were crossing the Great Lakes from Ontario, landing mostly at Buffalo or Chicago. And Chicago isn't that far from Miami County.

Having said that, there are also various gaps in the passenger lists for New York, Philadelphia, and Boston, which would be the obvious points of debarkation for a direct crossing from Liverpool or Plymouth. I have a couple of Irish families that I'm pretty certain landed at Boston in the 1840s, but I've never been able to locate them in the ship lists.

On the whole puzzle of trans-Atlantic immigration, by the way, the very best source of genealogical information and methodology is They Came in Ships by John Philip Colletta. Phil is the recognized expert in this area. If you ever go to the NGS or FGS conferences, he's also an excellent speaker, and he teaches in the IGHR at Samford every year.

also, lots of examples here

I think these would help you understand the key arguments and points made about whiteness:

• Making Whiteness: The Culture of Segregation in the South, 1890-1940
  
  
• Whiteness of a Different Color: European Immigrants and the Alchemy of Race
  
  
• How the Irish Became White
  
  Political Sociology articles that might interest you:
  
  
• Pettigrew, Thomas (1998). Reactions Toward the New Minorities of Western Europe. Annual Review of Sociology. 24(1) : 77-103.
  
  
• Banks, Antoine J, and Nicholas A Valentino. 2012. “Emotional Substrates of White Racial Attitudes.” American Journal of Political Science 56(2): 286–297
  
  
• Hutchings, L. Vincent and Valentino, Nicholas, A. (2004). The centrality of race in American politics. Annual Review of Political Science. 7(1): 383-408.
  
  
  I'm not expecting you to go away and read all this, but the books and articles can be found online (look up libgen and scihub if you need free access), so there's nothing to stop you skimming them or reading scholarly reviews. There's more where that came from so let me know if you have anything in particular you'd like to read about.
  

This shit again. There's research and actually a whole book on that not quite being the case. https://www.amazon.com/Different-Mirror-History-Multicultural-America/dp/0316022365%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q%26tag%3Dduckduckgo-iphone-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3D0316022365

Anything by David Emmons and his study of the Butte Irish will be useful. I also really like After the Gold Rush (http://www.amazon.com/After-Gold-Rush-California-1849-1870/dp/0804711364) by Ralph Mann. Ronald M. James, The Roar and the Silence may also be of use. These are all from the mining West and deal with industry and opportunity for immigrants. I can provide more. Do you have specific questions? Without focus, the bibliography is unending.

> What are you even talking about?

A good place to begin: https://www.amazon.com/Guarding-Golden-Door-Immigration-Immigrants/dp/0809053446/ref=pd_sbs_14_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=RXHJQEXX56A3G1XM6VDG

If you go to the book on amazong, "look inside" and read a little after the preface it refers to vitality as young colored people going into the work force for developed countries with an old aging population. I dont agree with it just saying.

https://www.amazon.com/Diversity-Explosion-Demographics-Remaking-America/dp/081572649X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480844290&sr=8-1&keywords=diversity+explosion

How many low caste (casteism being very much like racism) backs did your family tread on to get to the USA?


https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/books/the-karma-of-brown-folk

http://www.amazon.com/Uncle-Swami-South-Asians-America/dp/1595589406

It was reprinted in this book:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00HKMUY5C/

The original source is listed at the bottom of the image.

People were incredibly mobile in the early modern period, despite the many obstacles which made travel difficult. Hundreds of thousands of people emigrated to the new world in the 16th century, and there was plenty of movement within Europe itself (and not just by the wealthy).

For a study of the movement of ordinary people across the Atlantic in the 16th century, see I. Altman, Emigrants and Society: Extremadura and Spanish America in the Sixteenth Century ( http://www.amazon.com/Emigrants-Society-Extremadura-Spanish-Sixteenth/dp/0520064941 ).

For a very interesting microhistorical study of how much one peasant could move around in southern France and norther Spain in the 16th century, see N. Davis, The Return of Martin Guerre ( http://books.google.com/books?id=5f46_hWsJAkC ). This book is a really fun read - it's about a peasant who leaves his wife, travels away from his village, joins the army, and then comes back many years later - only people are pretty sure the guy who comes back isn't the same person as the man who left (but his wife backs him up, and no one can prove he's an impostor). Peasants could get around.

If you look into the history of whiteness and blackness, it's really not. A "black" person for a long time was not an African black we refer to now, at various times Irish, Italians, and Native Americans were referred to as "black" in the United States because they were racially and culturally inferior, thus not white. Whiteness was used to demarcate issues of politics and class.

Here's a good book that discusses some of it.

>Most people that get exposed to the information you guys have been exposed to and have the same knowledge you guys have are Atheist/non-religious.

Actually that's not true. In fact, according to Fischer and Hout, two Sociologists at Berkeley, in the US at least, education level is positively correlated to religiosity, and the most rapidly growing segment of "religious nones" is actually from those who have attained only a high school diploma.

The book, if you're interested:
http://www.amazon.com/Century-Difference-America-Changed-Hundred/dp/0871543680/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1371114921&sr=8-1&keywords=century+of+difference

I understand by your posting and comment history that you live in a small town and don't interact with a lot of radicals. So you might want to check your ego and listen to this.

I'm a light brown woman, and I can tell by your language of "those women, people of color, or lower class participants", that you are a middle class white male. (By the way "white" doesn't necessarily describe the color of one's skin. Race is a farce created to separate people who were/are/feel entitled to privilege. Suggested reading Working Toward Whiteness.)


Have you actually participated in Occupy Wallstreet? Or Occupy Anywhere? Because I have, and it looks like a constant wall of white male faces. White males dominate the stack at GA, the open mic, they are the majority of the participators in the Occupy movement. If this were not true, then OWS would not prioritize their stack to include women, POC, and other disenfranchised groups first. If this were not true, the People of Color Caucus would not exist in most occupied cities. If this were not true, then the Occupy The Hood outreach would not exist.

You know what is ABSOLUTELY OFFENSIVE? That you, think that you can speak for me. As a light brown woman, you don't speak for me.

edit: I accidentally a word.