(Part 3) Top products from r/Lyme

I am not actively treating lyme currently. I have done longterm antibiotics and haven't seen good results. Due to concerns about longterm abx and gut flora issues, I have decided to treat mold issues and detox first and then come back around to eliminating lyme. I am currently not on any pharmaceuticals.


Mold/ Mycotoxin Binders: I am on activated charcoal (Bulletproof activated charcoal) to help bind and excrete mycotoxins. I couldn't tolerate Cholestyramine (Compounded without aspartame), it made me very ill. I also cycle chlorella. I go slowly because personally, when I take binders, I feel very sick and get very weird mentally, especially in regards to anxiety.
I also couldn't tolerate welchol, which made me suicidal but after going off it I felt fine.


Other considerations:

-Moved out of a water damaged building

• Threw out belongings that I believed to be contaminated. (Many items that were thrown out had did not have visible mold.)
  
  
  Supplements:
  
• Liposomal Glutathione (I take the brand "readisorb")
  
• Vitamin D3 + K2 (10,000iu daily)
  
• Creatine (5g daily)
  
• N-Acetyl-Cysteine
  
• Magnesium Glycinate
  
• Phosphatidylserine (200mg a day)
  
• Fishoil (Nordic Naturals up to 4grams a day of EPA/DHA)
  
• Probiotics
  
• Prebiotics
  
• Folate and b12 +other b vitamins
  
• Curcumin
  
• Minerals
  
  
  Other:
  
  -Bluelight blocking glasses at night Heres some cheap ones: (https://www.amazon.com/Uvex-Blocking-Computer-SCT-Orange-S1933X/dp/B000USRG90)
  
  
• Infared Sauna
  
  -Clean diet, organic as much as possible, No gluten, low sugar, and I play around with dairy. Lots of grass fed beef and good veggies. (I was dairy free for a few years however when I eat it I feel fine.)
  
  -Avoidance of conventional household products. Instead: Natural detergents, soaps, toothpaste, shampoo, etc... I do use conventional aluminum containing deodorant because I have some less than ideal odor if I don't.
  
  
• I keep journals on symptoms to help alleviate anxiety and monitor progress or lack thereof.
  
  -Air oasis filter to improve indoor air quality (bedroom)
  
  -Water filter in shower, Reverse Osmosis filter to drink from. (Ideally, you'd have a whole house filter but I do not.)
  
  -Exercise as tolerated. (I can only lift sometimes, I cannot tolerate cardio.) DO NOT overdo it.
  
  
  
  Things I will try soon:
  
  -More regular sun exposure
  -epsom salt baths
  -Alka seltzer gold (Helps alleviate detox and herxheimer symptoms in some people.)
  -Actual sauna (Not infrared)
  
• Attempt to meditate successfully again (I did a few years ago)
  
• Practice mindfulness and gratitude
  
  
  For more info on mold check out:
  
  
• http://www.survivingmold.com
  (Ritchie shoemakers site, not a huge fan of his personally, I disagree with a few things he says but still worth reading and learning what he has to say.)
  
  The best article I have found: (Non-Shoemaker)
  
  https://www.hindawi.com/journals/tswj/2013/767482/
  
  
  I have summarized here but feel free to ask questions and I will go into further detail. Good luck to everyone in regaining health. Cheers.
  
  
  
  
  
  

Jordan Fisher Smith, one of the Lyme disease patients documented in Under Our Skin (a required film for Lymies!), is the only person who I am aware of who claims that he is “cured.” His treatment was long-term antibiotics, as well as Chinese acupuncture & herbs, supplements, a clean diet, exercise & proper sleep. Jordan’s struggle is partially described in a 2006 article for Backpacker—“Reality Bites: Lyme Disease”. In 2016 he said, “I was treated for 7-1/2 years and have been totally cured now for 8 years. There are others.”


Ally Hilfiger, designer Tommy Hilfiger’s daughter, wrote a (great!) book titled Bite Me, describing a nightmarish experience with Lyme that began in her childhood. She now refers to her health status not as “cured,” but instead, “managed.”


“Managed” is a term that resonates with me. I do not believe there is a cure for Lyme (if there were wouldn’t we know about it by now??), however I do know of people who find a “managed” place and are able live fulfilling lives. That is my goal, and I wish this for you too!


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FWD: The complexity of “managed” >>

💚 Thought I’d share something I just wrote to my sister. Sums up the reality that has unfolded in the past 6+ years while being treated for late-stage Lyme disease. As they say— take what you want and leave the rest:

“Oh ya there is definitely a ‘secondary lyme syndrome’ meaning lyme and/or lyme treatment will cause or enable other issues/ailments/diseases. It's a catch 22... like chemo, it can wreck you almost as much as the cancer. U just have to hope your immune system has been boosted enough after treatment to fight off anything new. Immune system will always be comprised tho because there is no ‘cure’ for lyme, the bacteria is always lurking even tho antibiotics can take care of a lot of it. U just have to try to eat clean, rest, no stress, take supplements, stay as healthy as possible so as not to allow the bacteria to take over again. Kind of like AIDS patients - they have to be really careful.”

So, there it is. Defend yourself against Lyme disease and if you suspect you have it, see a “lyme-literate doctor” to help nip it in the bud. 💚

I never asked you to keep it to yourself. I think sharing treatments is very valuable. All I was asking was to share more information about the treatment, where to find others using it, what risks to watch out for, etc. I had assumed you would have much more research on this than myself, and thought it would be valuable to patients.


I did some quick research myself:


There seems to be a guy who wrote a book on it and people reported success:
https://smile.amazon.com/Salt-Plus-Protocol-Lyme-Infection/dp/1463575483/


That same guy seems to have a website which links to a yahoo groups page with thousands of people in it.


I found this printout that has more details on a potential treatment and it makes an attempt to explain why it works, and what risks you have to watch out for:


https://www.connersclinic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Beating-Lyme-Section-4-PDF.pdf



But since I have never done it and only spent 5 minutes researching it, I have no idea which source is good, or if there are better places to learn more about it. I thought you may know more and that it would be valuable to share.


Lyme patients see so many different claims of cures it's hard to process. So in order for people to choose treatment plan over another it's very valuable to patients to show them information about a proposed treatment.

Many people who have successfully been treated for Lyme and associated diseases were in exactly the position at one point that you are in now. I personally tested negative for Lyme 4 times, and only started testing positive for it after several months of treatment and now consistently test positive. Serological testing for Lyme is very unreliable, and this is what makes diagnosis excruciatingly difficult.

You need to seek out an LLMD as soon as you can to get their opinion and begin treatment. Also, you need to continue to seek other diagnoses along the way to cover your bases. The symptoms of Lyme and associated diseases are very similar to a number of other chronic diseases, some of them serious like MS. So you have to make absolutely certain you don't have those. Most importantly, you need to learn about the various co-infections that ticks carry (e.g. Babesia, Bartonella, Anaplasmosis, and others) and make sure that you are covering your bases with those. I personally have both babesia and bartonella and they have been worse for me that Lyme has.

I recommend you buy this book called "How Can I Get Better?" by Dr. Richard Horowitz. This guy is a rockstar and is so good he has a seven year waitlist to see him. Buy it now so you can start learning about what you are dealing with - that's the only way to get better.

https://www.amazon.com/How-Can-Get-Better-Resistant/dp/1250070546/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498154805&sr=8-1&keywords=how+can+i+get+better+horowitz


While you are figuring out you doctor situation, and who to see, there are also other treatment regimens that don't involve antibiotics that people have had some success with (but absolutely you NEED to see an LLMD and most likely get on antibiotics). These two regimens are the Cowden Protocol and the Buhner Protocol.

Check out the link below for the Cowden Protocol:
https://www.nutramedix.com/products/cowden-support-program

Check out this link for Buhner's Protocol:
http://buhnerhealinglyme.com/

Good luck and let us know if you have any questions at all

EDIT: Added some stuff

you want everything we know? I have a giant notepad full of info...

• Find a LLMD:
  https://www.ilads.org/patient-care/provider-search
  
  https://www.lymedisease.org/members/lyme-disease-doctors/
  
  
• You had a Western Blot done with various positive bands? Congrats, it's probably Lyme even though they told you it was "negative for Lyme."
  
• Get Igenex testing done. Yes it's expensive. You know what else is expensive? Wasting $$$ on useless brain MRIs that the neurologist orders for you every year.
  
• No, you probably never even saw the tick bite, most of us didn't
  
• Oh you had a tick bite? Congrats, you have Lyme
  
• No, 10 days of doxy is NOT enough. Go get more. You need at least a month.
  
• Barely anyone gets a bullseye rash. I read a statistic that said only 17% of people get it. If you got one — congrats, you have Lyme.
  
• There are ticks in cities -- you can get Lyme walking through Central Park.
  
• Not everyone gets joint pain (I had neuro symptoms for 7 years before I had joint pain)
  
• Yes, it can cause psych symptoms, deja vu, anger, anxiety, depression, and depersonalization. No, you're not crazy.
  
• No, it's not just stress. Stress doesn't make your arm go numb during a heat wave.
  
• Alcohol intolerance is a very important early symptom. Very few other things cause this (Hodgkins lymphoma?)
  
• Don't go to a neurologist, rheumatologist, the Mayo Clinic, or an infectious disease doctor, they will not help you, they will likely just lie to you
  
• No, it's not "chronic fatigue" or "fibromyalgia" or any other bullshit diagnosis they try to give you
  
• Yes, Lyme can cause every bizarre weirdo fucking symptom you can think of (vibrating sensation, feeling of water running down your leg, spasticity, can’t remember words)
  
• Lyme can go dormant for years
  
• If you have Multiple Sclerosis you probably really have Lyme
  
• Ignore the salt/vitamin c guy who posts here
  
• Yes, there is Lyme and ticks in every state. That one too. Yes, mosquitos carry it too
  
• Info on co-infections (Babesia, Bartonella, Ehrlichia, Mycoplasma, Anaplasmosis, Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever), aka it's probably not just Lyme. Ticks have over 100 different types of bacteria, with new ones being discovered every year. There are even different types of Borrelia burgdorferi depending on what part of the country you're in. There are 29 strains of Bartonella alone.
  
• Clean up your diet: Keto or Paleo may help. Give up gluten, dairy, sugar, and processed foods. Borrelia feeds off of sugar.
  
• Some people heal with just herbs (Buhner or Cowden protocol)
  
• Why do I feel like I'm dying when I take antibiotics or herbs? Herxheimer reaction
  
• It's Lyme singular, NOT "Lymes"
  
  TREATMENT:
  
  
  BUHNER PROTOCOL:
  
  https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=4127022
  
  http://buhnerhealinglyme.com
  
  https://techpost.io/hacking-chronic-lyme-disease-and-co-infections/
  
  
  
  Disulfiram
  (new treatment that not many LLMD’s are using):
  
  https://www.lymedisease.org/disulfiram-kinderlehrer/
  
  https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03891667
  
  https://recruit.cumc.columbia.edu/clinical_trial/1661
  
  There’s a private Facebook group too
  
  
  COWDEN:
  (need links)
  
  
  BLOODWORK INFO:
  
  
• Western Blot - aka “what the hell are bands?” https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=4147204
  
• Igenex
  
• Armin Labs - Germany
  
• DNA Connections
  
• Galaxy Diagnostics - specifically for Bartonella testing https://www.galaxydx.com
  
• CD-57 for immune response (need a link/info for this)
  
  Lyme-specific bands: 23, 31, 34, 39 and 83/93
  
  BARTONELLA:
  
  https://youtu.be/uYEHsRRxrQw
  
  http://www.townsendletter.com/July2015/bartonellosis0715.html
  
  BOOKS:
  
  Stephen Buhner, Healing Lyme
  
  https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Lyme-Borreliosis-Coinfections-Rickettsiosis/dp/0970869649/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Buhner+healing+lyme&qid=1567635287&s=gateway&sr=8-2
  
  Stephen Buhner, Healing Lyme Co-Infections
  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1620550083/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_5?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
  
  Unlocking Lyme
  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0982322526/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_4?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
  
  Why Can’t I Get Better?
  https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Buhner+healing+lyme&ref=nb_sb_noss_2
  
  Cure Unknown
  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1250044561/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_6?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
  
  Believe Me - Yolanda Hadid (celebrity)
  https://www.amazon.com/Believe-Me-Invisible-Disability-Disease/dp/1250132770/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=lyme+yolanda&qid=1567635346&s=gateway&sr=8-1
  
  Bitten
  
  https://www.amazon.com/Bitten-History-Disease-Biological-Weapons/dp/006289627X/ref=pd_sbs_14_9?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=006289627X&pd_rd_r=2275bf65-9f9d-4e9d-bd21-f907c727b622&pd_rd_w=FyN0V&pd_rd_wg=yhka3&pf_rd_p=1c11b7ff-9ffb-4ba6-8036-be1b0afa79bb&pf_rd_r=2GVJQT1XQ2PXA4R98XYH&psc=1&refRID=2GVJQT1XQ2PXA4R98XYH
  
  ARTICLES:
  
  https://www.elephantjournal.com/2016/04/i-survived-lyme-disease-and-you-will-too/
  
  https://globallymealliance.org/marisol-thomas-existing-with-late-state-neurological-lyme-disease/
  
  https://affairsofliving.com/blog/2010/12/9/my-lyme-disease-is-not-the-idsa-lyme-disease.html
  
  https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/09/life-with-lyme/594736/
  
  https://www.lymedisease.org/mylymedata-catherine-fox/
  
  https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/its-time-to-get-serious-about-tick-borne-diseases/
  
  https://folks.pillpack.com/the-worst-thing-about-lyme-disease-is-what-it-does-to-your-mind/
  
  https://www.huffpost.com/entry/what-lyme-disease-feels-like_b_7539130
  
  https://www.huffpost.com/entry/its-a-scandal--daryl-hall_b_11118332
  
  SYMPTOM LISTS:
  
  https://canlyme.com/lyme-basics/symptoms/
  
  https://www.prohealth.com/library/a-deep-look-at-the-symptoms-of-six-major-lyme-related-infections-41139
  
  https://www.lymedisease.org/lyme-disease-symptom-checklist/
  
  DOCUMENTARIES:
  
  
• Under Our Skin
  https://underourskin.com
  
  
• Heal (Netflix) - not specifically about Lyme, but informative and gives you hope
  
  
• The Paleo Way (Netflix only has season 2) - this is just a really good cooking show about the Paleo diet and health
  
  
  DETOX METHODS:
  
  https://www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html
  
  http://www.ladyoflyme.com/blog/burbur-drops-lyme-detox
  
  https://affairsofliving.com/blog/2010/7/5/helpful-hints-for-battling-a-herxheimer-reaction-or-my-adven.html
  
  Binders:
  
  https://alisonvickery.com.au/binders/
  
  
• activated charcoal (take on an empty stomach and 1-2 hours from meds)
  
• citrus pectin
  
• Zeolite
  
• bentonite clay (food grade)
  
  Make the body alkaline:
  
  
• lemon water
  
• Alka Selter Gold tabs (I have to get these on amazon, can’t find them in stores)
  
  Detox baths and sweating (20-30min):
  
  
• dry brush the skin before baths (brush twds the heart)
  
• epsom salt (3 cups) and peroxide (16 ounces)
  
• epsom salt (1-3 cups) and bentonite clay (1/2 cup)
  
• infrared sauna 5-30min
  
  For headaches and histamine reaction:
  
  
• Benadryl
  
  Brain/nerve detox:
  
  
• Burbur and Pinella detox
  
• Jernigan Neuro-Antitox https://www.jnutra.com/products/neuro-antitox-ii-cns-pns?variant=18838316810336
  
• L-Ornithine (gets rid of excess ammonia)
  
  HEALING:
  
  
• Meditation
  
  • https://youtu.be/jK2hS40pr-g
    
  • https://youtu.be/RCCeEXs-6Nc
    
• Vagus nerve stimulation
  
  • https://darouwellness.com/the-vagus-nerve-how-inflammation-can-be-controlled-by-the-brain/?fbclid=IwAR2lePixdHcMDg0lgQXlhsEr16C-vQbd4nCqcFSOmzHrBodsI5KdX545s7c
    
  • https://drarielleschwartz.com/natural-vagus-nerve-stimulation-dr-arielle-schwartz/#.XY4vsS3MzOQ
    
  • https://drarielleschwartz.com/vagus-nerve-yoga-dr-arielle-schwartz/#.XY5f6i3MzOQ
    
  • https://drprincetta.com/tag/humming/
    
  • https://www.optimallivingdynamics.com/blog/how-to-stimulate-your-vagus-nerve-for-better-mental-health-brain-vns-ways-treatment-activate-natural-foods-depression-anxiety-stress-heart-rate-variability-yoga-massage-vagal-tone-dysfunction
    
  • https://me-pedia.org/wiki/File:Cranial_Nerves.png
    
  • https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Vagus_nerve_infection_hypothesis
    
  • http://simmaronresearch.com/2013/12/one-theory-explain-vagus-nerve-infection-chronic-fatigue-syndrome/
    
• ASMR (this helps my nerve pain, I know it’s weird) https://youtu.be/xyW5HZIj7ZE
  
• Yoga https://youtu.be/Ba0fweKUwIc
  
• Nature (hmm… maybe go to the ocean, not the woods)
  
• Exercise
  
• Laughter
  
• Neuroplasticity (need books, links)
  
• Positivity
  
• Music or Art
  
  SUCCESS STORIES:
  
  
  https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3683338
  
  HOPE:
  
  https://www.outsideonline.com/2402641/kirby-morrill-appalachian-trail-stabbing
  
  https://www.runnersworld.com/news/a28677255/jeannie-rice-half-marathon-age-group-world-record/
  
  
  THE GODFATHER OF LYME:
  
  
  Dr. Joseph Burrascano
  
  https://vimeo.com/306846706
  
  https://www.lymedisease.org/history-lyme-disease-burrascano/
  
  https://holisticprimarycare.net/topics/topics-a-g/chronic-disease/1184-shape-shifters-hidden-accomplices-a-natures-dirty-needles-confronting-the-challenges-of-lyme-disease-sp-858975690.html
  
  https://lymediseaseassociation.org/about-lyme/medical/treatment-guidelines/
  
  Dr Horowitz
  
  https://vimeo.com/channels/ldnresearchtrust/359020273
  
  says Lyme can be transmitted from mother to fetus
  
  “Lyme causes psych symptoms”
  
  Dr Armin Schwarzbach - German Lyme specialist at Armin Labs
  
  https://vimeo.com/channels/ldnresearchtrust/113603875
  
  He says “Multiple Sclerosis is just a collection of symptoms, and Lyme bacteria can be the cause of it.”

> L-ornithine

Wow thank you for the fast reply and advice. So no wirey, partially awake nights anymore? Hopefully?

Edit: Also do you recommend I buy this one of 250 grams or this one of 500 mg (I would have to take a lot of them to reach 3000 mg)

Edit 2: Nevermind the 500 mg is actually a 1,500 mg dose :)

"This solutions book addresses over twenty areas in which biofilm infections harm everyone. The 38 plus solutions to about 25 disorders are clear, based on the best published research and almost all are ready for use now. This collection exists nowhere and cannot be found on the web.

No book has such a powerful research foundation, with vast clear images with a highly readable text that does not require a PhD, MD or master's degree in pure science. You simply need an interest."

https://www.amazon.com/Combating-Biofilms-Antibiotics-Antifungals-Infections/dp/0991142683/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1520722187&sr=1-1&keywords=biofilms+fail

I’ve never tried kratom.. maybe I should look into it. I do take stevia daily though. My favorite is the SweetLeaf vanilla creme one: SweetLeaf Sweet Drops Liquid Stevia Sweetener, Vanilla Creme, 2 Ounce

Check out burbur detox I would say it helps me and a ton of people swear by it

Can you share which one you order from Amazon? Any at a lower price? And do you think pink himalayan salt would work for adding to food? That's what I use and I supplement with iodine from kelp since it's almost absent in American diets.

Edit: this is the one and it's way priced real high

Ah you again.

Dr. Stoller uses the latest medical research in his medical practice. You can read all about it in his book (Incurable Me: Why the Best Medical Research Does Not Make It into Clinical Practice https://www.amazon.com/dp/1510707980/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_Pa4-Bb1YBW0QT). It’s because of him I am even functional enough to reply and write this. He’s arguably saved my life.

Are his methods conventional? Not at all. Do they work? Yes, many of them do because they’re backed by the latest clinical research.

When it comes to Lyme disease, he’s well researched and educated. He’s successfully treated people with Lyme disease for over 30+ years.

His opinions on vaccinations aren’t relevant to treating Lyme disease. With that said, I personally know people who have experienced health problems due to vaccines. One of my old clients son was disabled for many years by an HPV vaccine, and now requires blood pressure medications to function again. While I don’t know if vaccines can cause autism, I do know that there are sometimes negative side effects to vaccines.

In fact, a senator just died after receiving a flu vaccine that he himself was promoting. https://www.learntherisk.org/other/senator-dies-of-flu-shot/

Anyhow, I would much rather see a doctor who is suspicious of the current medical system and uses the latest medical research to treat patients then the dozens of doctors who misdiagnosed me and allowed my infections to become chronic and nearly killed me. Dr. Stoller saved my life, I can’t say that for any other doctor since childhood.

here

link

This book is a must-read in my opinion. It’s all the things we should have learned about our cycle but were never taught. It’ll teach you how to read your body to know when you are and aren’t fertile. The chapter on hormonal birth control and all of its deleterious effects is eye-opening and maddening. I’d use only non-hormonal methods of birth control.

I saw this elsewhere and there was some argument that any kind of sugar is bad for us so I'm assuming store bought is not good. Are they referring to
this kind in the article? Has anyone tried he stevia method or plan to?

I've long suspected that Eddie McSweegan's little novel "Deliberate Release" that he wrote while being paid to do nothing at the NIH as the Lyme Disease Program Manager was a veiled threat to his superiors when they suspended him. This was covered by 60 minutes years ago in a segment entitled "The Man With No Work". It's supposed to be a novel, but my guess is that this was McSweegan's pathetic passive-aggressive attempt to let the gov't know that if they tried to fire him, he'd become a whistle blower regarding the release of Borrelia burgdorferi.

I've had 2 Lyme blood tests done now and both came back negative. I am still convinced I have it as I pulled off 7 ticks from myself during fishing in summer of 2018 and am exhibiting every single symptom to a t. I am going for another test next Tuesday and can expect another 1-2 weeks for the results again. It started with joint pain which I thought was from years at the gym but seemed unusual as my joints in my finger and shoulder just wouldn't heal for months. I finally got hit by the worst headache of my life in December while being at the gym, I thought I was having a stroke, had a catscan and an mri and both look fine so no stroke. Now I have a daily headache and insane weakness which has caused me to stop working. My heart hurts at random intervals throughout the day and my muscles sometimes spasm. My eye vision has gotten worse for no reason except some sort of neurological issues. The most worrying part is when my hearth beats so hard that my stomach actually shakes. I also feel very sick for 1-3 hours every time I eat. I have however started taking a easily made tincture which has helped me extensively. Basically just 6 drops of stevia extract and a tablespoon of each of these just boiled in hot water twice a day.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ASD2F8O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0771TT7G7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H2M8L9Y/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0776YJL99/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N52YPJP/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A8MA32QEVO3GI&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/McCormick-Fine-Garlic-Powder-21/dp/B001PQOATU/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=garlic+powder&qid=1557707659&s=hpc&sr=1-4

I recommend giving it a try as these are all known for killing lyme disease quite efficiently, worst case scenario you're wrong and don't have lyme and will just have a bunch of extra spices laying around the house. For anyone that's not aware Lyme bacteria carry a toxin which gets released into your bloodstream when the bacteria's cell walls break when they die which will make you feel much worse as you're being poisoned as you get better. I've been using this for a week now and the improvement is significant even though I felt much worse for the first 5 days.